>the national hero of France is cuckolded by an Arab which causes him to have a mental breakdown, strip completely naked, and go on an incel killing spree against peasants and their livestockyou can NOT make this shit up
i'm reading Inammorato in translation. bit of a bummer. mostly i feel like i'm missing out. i can't imagine there being a good translation of Spenser or Milton. I know there is a rhyming translation of Furioso so I'm looking foward to that.
>>24085539There’s a rhyming translation of Innamorato too, but the translator plays fast and loose with the meter.https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/Boiardohome.php
>>24085510Orlando had a wife back home, Aude or whatever her name was. His pursuit of Angelica was immoral and he got what he deserved.
The national hero of France is Jeanne d'Arc
The story is about a german though.
Yeah, but written by an Italian. The French depict king Arthur, the British hero, getting cucked. the French depict their French heros as not getting cucked at all. Its just chad/basedjack shit.
>>24085510>you can NOT make this shit upYou might want to work on your imagination, or at least read more.
>>24085601*dutchman
>Visigoths invite Muslims into Iberia >Charlemagne allies with Muslims against pagan Basques>El Cid works for Muslims against his own king >a thousand years later Spaniards and French go MUH EBIN HOLY WAR European History is a joke
>>24086522Furious brown hands typed this post
>>24085510>get rejected>have a mental breakdown, strip completely naked, and go on an incel killing spree against peasants and their livestockWe've all been there, haven't we?
>>24085510Who the fuck is Orlando?Is this really how bongs call Roland?Also he fought basques not arabs iirc
>>24085510>>the national hero of France is cuckolded by an Arab which causes him to have a mental breakdown, strip completely naked, and go on an incel killing spree against peasants and their livestockNAPOLEON DID NOT DO THAT
>>24086543The French think Karl is spelled Charlemagne
>>24085510that's the Italian reimagining THOUGH, not the original Chanson
>>24085510>have a mental breakdown, strip completely naked, and go on an incel killing spree against peasants and their livestockIsn't that Sophocles' Ajax?
>>24087122Checks out, everything in Orlando is plagiarized
>>24086543
>>24086543Innamorato/Furioso expands the setting to include kings from Tartary, Scottish knights, and a whole slew of Greek mythology scenarios for Roland's party to overcome. His love interest is a "princess of Cathay" (China) which makes Orlando Furioso quite possibly the first recorded WMAF->BMAF NTR scenario in history, quite possibly before any real life equivalents could conceivably have ever taken place.
>>24085510The fact that he literally can't die because he's blessed by an angel and is running around naked punching horses and peasants to pieces is so hilarious. Made me kek hard
I look like this and do this.
>>24085539>I know there is a rhyming translation of Furioso so I'm looking foward to that.(reply to this post left untranslated by Rose)
When reading Orlando it's important to keep in mind that it exists to flatter the poets' patron who is allegedly descended from the Gary Stu Ruggiero. This is why Roland, once supreme badass, is now the Vegeta of his own story.
>>24085548>A.S. KlineThis guy's shit. Avoid at all costs.
>>24086543Orlando is the Italian name for Roland.
>>24085539>But Boiardo's work, though good in plan, could never have achieved wide popularity on account of the extreme ruggedness of its style.I wouldn't say you're missing much.
>>24087086Karl Magnús = man of might. Norse not Latin.
>>24089723The only other English translation in existence doesn’t seem any better from what I read of it.
>>24089780His name is Karl der Große (Big Chuck)
>>24089710>the poets' patron who is allegedly descended from the Gary Stu Ruggiero.Who is in turn a direct descendant of Julius Caesar who is a direct descendant of Hercules who is a direct descendant of Hector of Troy. Behold the phrenology of ILLIVM SANGVIS PVRVS
tfw no Bradamante gf
>>24085510Is that what the book is really about? I've read the Arthurian legends and Arthur also gets cucked by Lancelot but I didn't know Christian literature was so full of cuckoldry. The christcuck meme is true on so many levels.
>>24086522>European History is a jokeChrisrcuck history is not European history, chud.
>>24091904>Is that what the book is really about?It's actually about >>24089710 but Orlando does indeed spend about half of it naked and eating farm animals raw. He doesn't even appear in the poem's final battle.
>>24086774Losers can't be national heroes
>it's an Astolfo canto
>>24088106>The fact that he literally can't die because he's blessed by an angelWhich makes the fact that he's most famous for dying a little awkward
>>24092588>He doesn't even appear in the poem's final battle.That’s because the final battle is a duel between two other men.>>24094062>going to the Moon on Elijah’s flaming chariot with the Apostle John to retrieve Orlando’s mind is boringI guess you just can’t please some people.
Do the events of Song of Roland precede the events of Orlando's poems?
>>24094637Renaissance poets didn't give a shit about canon, in Jerusalem Delivered the Crusaders merk Alexios I and sack Constantinople before the plot has even gotten underway.
>>24094637Sort of. Their written with the expectation that their audience knows who Roland/Orlando is and what will happen to him. But like >>24094647 said, they make no effort make it seem like their stories take place in the same “universe” or whatever. Instead, they just their imaginations go wild.
>>24094691>they just their imaginations go wild.copy/paste scenes from the Metamorphoses and the Aeneid and hope none of their listeners know what they're cribbing from*
>>24091909Yes it is. Christianity is objectively European and is and will forever be considered inextricable from the achievements of Europe and the European people. Every attempt at deviating from this has brought destruction upon European nations, to de-Christianize a European country is to destroy it and its people utterly.
>>24095529It’s usually tongue-in-cheek when they borrow from classical mythology. Like when Orlando can’t answer the riddle of the Sphinx, so he just fights it instead.
