myr editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>24081416
Coldhands is time travelling Jon Snow.
I don't come in these threads. It’s too painful, I just… FUCKanananannAII
>>24091397>Lothar's bastard brother Walder Rivers was another matter; a harsh sour man with old Lord Walder's suspicious face, he spoke but seldom and devoted most of his attention to the meat and mead that was set before himHow much of this was Walder Rivers being the bad cop to Lothar, and how much was Catelyn seething about bastards?
Is Barristan a 62 year old virgin?
What black magic ritual do I have to perform to make George tell HBO to get fucked and to only work on book stuff from now on?
>>24091478his POV seems to imply it considering the only woman he thinks about is a dead girl from 15 years ago that he never spoke to
>>24091494You've pretty much already got your wish know HBO have adapted HOTD and Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, there's literally nothing else in the ASOIAF universe left
You guys really have to give up on this series
>>24091514>there's literally nothing else in the ASOIAF universe leftthey were making a cartoon about yi ti. if anything that'd require more of his involvement because there's less material to draw from so to keep it canonical he'd have to make more.
>>24091567>they were making a cartoon about yi ti.They're not. GRRM certainly wants HBO to make cartoon adaptations but none of those projects have been greenlit and nobody really cares. GRRM failing to publish TWOW and HOTD being shit have effectively killed it as a media franchise, the fat man is delusional and doesn't realize finishing the book is the only way to save it.
Is the book taking so much because Martin saw how everyone reacted to the crappy later seasons of GOT and he's rewriting a lot of stuff because of that?
>>24091712Its because he spent years jumping between projects like TV work (he was writing scripts, in talks for other adaptions, doing fan conventions), his book store, his local cinema, activism stuff, and more.Of course writing gets harder the more you get away from it. He needed to stay put. Somehow he didn't do that even during lockdowns.
Remember when GRRM backtracked on his formal written consent to lock him up on a deserted island if he hadn't written anything more by 2020?
>>24091567>>24091610>a show about a land so far away it has literally zero relation to the main story>that has maybe a paragraph's worth of info about it in total>much of it being complete BSThey must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel, huh?
>>24091610>TWOW and HOTD being shit have effectively killed it as a media franchiseWB still considers it one of their main franchises as of now, I guess it all depends on how well Kot7K does. There's also that korean mobile game they're making, I guess? Just goes to show how cowardly these big studios are. They'd rather squeeze a franchise dry like a rag, exploring every meaningless diversion, instead of giving something new a chance. Same goes for Star Wars but obviously to a much greater degree. WB really wants their glup shitto equivalent side stories.
Ummm achually George doesn’t owe you shit let the man live his life
>>24091841He owes it to himself to finish the books more than any of us
>>24091610nah The Dunk and Egg show is being filmed right now. He's been trying to get in front of the show writers by releasing those blogs flaming Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon writers for deviating from the books and ruining the shows. Dunk and Egg are much simpler stories so I'm actually kind of interested in watching the show. I did not watch Game of Thrones or House of the Dragon.
>read ADWD in 2011>surely GRRM will release book 6 before the show gets that far :)>we're now in 2025It's time for us to move on
>>24091494The ritual to get a lot of fucking money
>>24091514>there's literally nothing else in the ASOIAFHow about they adapt the first 5 books first? And no cutting 90% of content does not count as an "adaptation"
>>24092311They should just make GoT: Brotherhood, which continues from the end of S4. Adapt AFFC and ADWD, but on the condition George actually finishes TWoW at the very least.
>George R. R. Martin ; Born, George Raymond Martin (1948-09-20) September 20, 1948 (age 76)
>>24092318Never trust someone with only first names to finish something
>>24092361The initials stand for Ronald Reuel
This guy writes poorly planned out pop fiction. Why does he need his own thread?
Cook - Why would you call me a pleb noob? That hurt. What's wrong with you? Don't you have empathy? Is it because I bought softcovers during the last three years? Why'd you hold that against me?I think you should apologize.
>>24092023move on then in silence and leave us to discuss the books we enjoy and you don't
>>24092371Because I hate this board
How are female ASOIAF fans bigger coomers than the male fans are?
>>24090329>Autism is a spectrum and you can be on it without being called an autist per seYou can be non-autistic and still be diagnosed an autist because the fuckers think you’re weird and antisocial. Yes, it (autism) is a fucking meme. Severely life impacting autism is a thing, sure, okay, but being antisocial is just being antisocial, and all the cons that go with it. The pros are not being compromised by sacrificing bits and pieces of yourself (your soul/character) in order to fit in. It isn’t a bad thing not fitting in. It isn’t a bad thing being a robot with no friends, since those friends will try to reprogram you for the worse.
>>24091846Given that he hasn't released the newest book, he obviously doesn't.
>>24091961>nah The Dunk and Egg show is being filmed right nowIt's getting three seasons at most because GRRM hasn't written anything else lmao, he's trying to rush projects out the door without putting the work in first
>>24092585but no female fans ever have erotic thoughts about poor old sam tarly :(
>>24092705Gilly does tho
>>24091712>Is the book taking so much because Martin saw how everyone reacted to the crappy later seasons of GOT and he's rewriting a lot of stuff because of that?It's how he writes, GRRM isn't a structured writer like Brandon Sanderson or Stephen King. He writes when his muse hits and it's mostly by the seat of his pants with little planning. It's why ASOIAF is so unpredictable and the direction of the story and character development changes a lot.
reminder that this (>>24092646) anon's argument with the other anon stemmed from him being pissy about someone saying Tolkien had some faults such as focusing on his mediocre languages instead of characterisation.Absolute kek
>>24092732>>24091712We need a 'why is winds taking so long' section in the OP copypastaI'd start with at least these two links:>Why George's writing style is horribly inefficient: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2011/05/19/talking-about-the-dance/>Why splitting Feast and Dance makes writing Winds harder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkzYgR5OgCMAnd then probably try to find something that talks about how George is on too many projects (there's like 10 HBO GoT spinoff shows, a movie, and then like 3-4 other tv/film projects currently ongoing) and has issues staying focused.
>>24092737Oh grow up. We’re talking about autism now. What asoiaf characters are autistic? Answer me.
>>24092585women in general are more coomer, so it's only natural. It just doesn't seem like they are more numerous because they are better at hiding it in everyday life than men are. >>24092705love that post so much lmao>>24092724I think Sam was the only one who showed any interest in her, so maybe she though he was her only option
>>24092743>I think Sam was the only one who showed any interest in her, so maybe she though he was her only optionGilly raped him when he was a drunken virgin mourning Maester Aemon, she is scum desu
>>24092742>"What asoiaf characters are autistic?"Dunno. I don't believe in autism being a real thing either to be honest. You are either a retard (can't function independently) or you aren't (can function independently) that's all there is, every other traits that are "indicative of autism" are just personal quirks which can stem from anything
Geoege is a better writer and character developer than George. There I said it.
>>24092742>>24092751Stannis is clearly a sperg
>>24092746for men like Sam, being raped is only beneficial. a much needed boost to confidence ("I actually laid with a woman!!" and all that)
>>24092751So you’re calling him a retard for agreeing with you. That’s retarded.
Autism isn’t a disease it’s a mental illness.
>>24092771for you
>>24092751>Dunno. I don't believe in autism being a real thing either to be honest.Irrelevant. Answer my question. Who in the world of asoiaf has what you would call ‘autistic traits’?
>>24092751>You are either a retard (can't function independently)Being unable to function independently doesn’t mean you are retarded. Was Steven Hawking a retard?
>>24092775Stannis.>The throne is mine because... It just should be okay!>The rules! They have to follow the RULES! Don't they understand the RULES?!>What do you mean, they don't follow the rules? Don't they know?! I'm king!
Daenerys: starts as a virgin (loses it very quickly)Jon Snow: starts as a virgin (loses it in ASOS)Bran: is a virginArya: is a virginSansa: is a virginSamwell: starts as a virgin (loses it AFFC)Brienne: is a virginBarristan: is implied to be a virginQuentyn: is a virginJon Connington: implied to be a virgin because he's a closeted homosexualGRRM sure loves his virgin protagonists
>>24092789I get that you are doing POV characters, but Robb losing his virginity was a huge plot point.
>>24092784yes, he was>>24092775I answered it, learn to read
>>24092758learn to read
somebody post the passage where stannis is malding over a 10 year old girl
>>24092789>Jon Connington: implied to be a virgin because he's a closeted homosexual who hasn't gotten over his dead oneitisftfy
>>24092743>I think Sam was the only one who showed any interest in her, so maybe she though he was her only optionNo one of the wildlings or one of the peasant men that Stannis brought would have happily fucked and married her inbred ass. I don't think anyone describes her as ugly. She pursued Sam iirc, some women do actually like nice intelligent guys with soft hands. It's super common irl, for women to like guys who are either oblivious or who have low confidence so they never act on her advances or attention.
>>24092831>yes, he wasNo, he wasn’t.
I reckon a life on the Wall would be comfy, practicing swordplay with your bros, going on rangings, a cheeky visit to the the brothel in Mole's Town
>>24092910could he function independently?no, so he was retarded.Just because one isn't mentally retarded, he can still be physically retarded, either way, he's retarded.it's not that hard to grasp
>>24092871Rhaegar really mindbroke everyone who saw him, didn't he?
>>24092789not POV, but Blackfish could also be a virgin.What's the deal with that anyway? Is he also a closet fag like Joncon?
>>24092938except for ned
>>24092850
>>24092938and then Robert broke Rhaegar lol
>>24092789>>24092871>Jon Connington: implied to be a virginThere are those quotes about him fondly remembering Myles Toyne's smile and about them confiding things to each other at night that at least hint at the possibility that they fucked.
>>24092646Well i'm not particularly interested in discussing the current state of psychology, specially when i too do not agree with most of it past the 80s or the DSM-3. The original argument anon wanted to make was that somehow autism and more broadly introspective individuals, are naturally gifted, which is just not the case. What i tried to explain, was that correlation indicates but does not prove causation. A genius who happens to be autistic is not prove that an autistic man is a genius. In fact in my own personal experience i would posit the contrary, most are of average and below average IQ. Note however that i speak here of those more firmly defined as autistic. When treating the full range of the spectrum, naturally the line shifts towards the middle and individuals of average and slightly above.>>24092742No character that i can remember. People will say Stannis but he is too well adjusted and displays no manias, just a little obsessed.
>>24092973>the current state of psychologyThe ongoing replication crisis has pretty much invalidated the entire field.
>>24092978NTA, what's the replication crisis?
>>24092998A big part of the modern scientific method, is that a scientific study should be replicable. Meaning in general, that another research team should be able to conduct an identical study or experiment as yours, and get the same results, by-and-large. In psychology, almost no studies or experiments from the past few decades have been able to be replicated. Meaning that most are complete dogshit, and that researchers are either incompetent, or are reaching conclusions that sound smart, but aren't borne out by peer review. Me personally, I don't think there's widespread fraud going on. I think it's as simple as the field of psychology being mostly pseudoscientific to begin with.
>>24092789>>24092871>>24092971Is there a passage of him getting hard at the mere mention of Rhaegar's name that i'm not remembering or people are just assuming that because he's fixated on avenging the guy?>>24092978I see that more as an issue with academia these days, with research being either fund or bias driven. It is also widespread in medicine as a whole, not just psychology.
>>24093029Connington calls Rhaegar his "silver prince" and thinks very jealously about Elia Martell and Lyanna Stark being "unworthy" of him, it's very gay
>>24093029How do you even fuck up a medical study?>Give 1000 people drug x or a placebo>Observe results
>>24091397>When King Viserys took Alicent Hightower to wife in 106 AC, House Velaryon was notable for its absence. Princess Rhaenyra poured for her stepmother at the feast, and Queen Alicent kissed her and named her “daughter.” The princess was amongst the women who disrobed the king and delivered him to the bedchamber of his bride.>Rhaenyra literally stripped her father naked to fuck her new stepmotherSeriously what the fuck GRRM
>>24093074
>>24093076>Worldbuilds for elden ring>Adds incest Bravo GRRM
The title promised ice and fire but instead we got throne wars and politicking. I feel cheated.
>>24092743>women in general are more coomer, so it's only natural. It just doesn't seem like they are more numerous because they are better at hiding it in everyday life than men are.Exactly.Real life fails the Bechdel test more often than not.
>>24093091It was integral to the plot though
Hot Pie WILL return in The Winds of Winter.
>>24093160but is he a virgin?
>>24093186Yes, but Arya will change that for him when they reunite
>>24093202Only after she gets rejected by Jon
>>24093236>George's original outline planned a romance between Jon and AryaWhy is he so obsessed with incest?
>>24093244Because its based
>>24093258Unironically somehow some of the best pieces of fanart depicting Lannisters I've seen.For some reason, Lannister fanart tends to be dogshit.
>>24092961
>>24093334Should have named that crossing the brown ford after all the poop rhaegar shitted
>>24092946Probably had a lover who died/married someone else and he never got over it
>>24092946I said in a previous thread months ago that I thought that he was asexual.
>>24093091Not just any incest. Pederasty. Not just any pederasty. The shota is the rapist!
>>24093334>the more he drank, that more he shat
>Tywin slept with his son's whoredeeply disturbed man
>>24092946I feel there would have been a clue or two by now if he was gay.Maybe he just disliked the political plotting through marriages that the Starks, Tullys, Arryns and Baratheons seemed to be doing, and then Hoster forcing an abortion on Lysa was the final straw.
>>24093410Any hole's a goal.
>>24093411That and not every man wants a family. He knows he'll be a shit dad or husband and he prefers soldering to lording. He also just doesn't want to follow the command of Hoster. If someone commanded me to marry I'd think they were crazy too.
>>24093410Tywin was the one who had the tunnel built to Chataya's brothel. GRRM likes to repeat patterns in family generations and one pattern in Lannister men is that they're simps and whore mongerers. Tyrion, Tywin, Tytos all have shades of this.
>>24093410>My brother never learned to like the taste of disappointment
Psychoanalyse me based on my top five houses:Dayne, Hightower, Dondarrion , Morrison,, and Stark
>>24093410>is pissed that his father gave his whore jewelry>gives his whore the chain of the Handyeah there's a lot going on there
>>24093472If he was the one who built the tunnel to Chataya's, having Alayaya whipped when he thought she was Tyrion's whore was also very fucked up. Even apart from the possibility that she was his daughter, did he do it because he got angry at being reminded how similar he and Tyrion are?
>>24093535Tywin is the kind of guy who goes into a brothel, makes a prostitute wear his mother's dress, fuckes her hard, then goes outside and mumbles to himself:>fucking whores I hate them so much
nuncle
>>24093535>>24093579I wouldn't be so quick to call Tywin a hypocrite. Presumably Tywin did the same and for all we know, he hid it well. Its Tyrion's way of half assing things that irks him so. So in the end its not so much that Tyrion fucks whores but how he does it, in the open with little regard for himself, his stature or his house. This would make Tyrion even worse than Tytus in his eyes, for having his cunning and complete indifference on how it all reflects on the family
I honestly like show Tywin more. Not just for being more likeable, but as a deeper character. It obviously helps he only appeared in S1-4, back when going off of book canon didn't always end in disaster.The book interactions are almost always with Tyrion, which doesn't help if you're trying to potray him in a slightly more positive manner.
>>24093606nobody cares if a nobleman fucks whores, Tywin is just insecure about his daddy
>>24093610Saying show Tywin is a deeper character is a crazy statement
Do you think Daynes have a single black streak in their pubic bush
>>24093506It's supposed to be Morrison not Morrison
>>24093621How so? I get not liking straying from the books, but Tywin in the show has more depth than his book counterpart. Scenes with him and Jaime/Cersei rock, and having him put Joffrey in his place at several points makes him likeable. That's not even mentioning Charles Dance's presence.
>>24093646>but Tywin in the show has more depth than his book counterpart.He's almost exactly the same except in the books we're given some context to explain why he turned out the way he did thanks to backstory with his father Tytosthe added D&D scenes are mostly shit, it's just repeating "Tywin is a control freak" which we already knew
>>24093618>Tywin mistrusted laughter. He heard too many people laughing at your grandsire.He is insecure about the Lannister. He was born heir to a small house who had once been great, that is literally it. Fucking whores was in no small part what caused many for his bannermen to openly mock his father. >>24093633You mean Morrigen?>>24093646And those are all in the books. The only thing i would give credit to were all those little conversations with Arya, which were pretty neat. But even that came at the cost of Roose's character.
>>24093655Seeing how Roose ended up, it'd have been a waste anyway. Not the same character as the book counterpart anyhow.>And those are all in the books. Not at all. Just about any scene Tyrion isn't in but Tywin is is show only. And a lot are good.>The only thing i would give credit to were all those little conversations with Arya, which were pretty neat.I quite liked his scenes with Olenna too.
>He used me every way there was, and . . . he used to make me tell him how big he was. My giant, I had to call him, my giant of Lannister.">Oswald Kettleblack was the first to laugh. Boros and Meryn joined in, then Cersei, Ser Loras, and more lords and ladies than he could count. The sudden gale of mirth made the rafters ring and shook the Iron Throne. "It's true," Shae protested. "My giant of Lannister." The laughter swelled twice as loud. Their mouths were twisted in merriment, their bellies shook. Some laughed so hard that snot flew from their nostrils.manletbros, why do they mock us so...
>>24092935get to eat Hobb's food too
>>24094262was sympathetic towards Shae until this point, dumb cunt deserved to die
>>24094262You have to admit it WAS pretty funny
>>24094262If your karma was better you wouldn't be a manlet, you deserve it
Let it be known that the "Sunset found her in the grass, groaning" scene has been completely and irrefutably vindicated.
>>24094586What is this schizoid shit?
>>24094586so this is what mfs want me to go switch to reading from ASOIAF? its literally just lines of nonsense.if gurm started writing like this I'd rather never have an other book in the series
I'm just waiting for Winnie the Pooh Targaryen
Do you think Targaryen semen is actually tainted like the Maesters claim? These people legit produce lizard children on a bad day.
Immigrants build USA. Immigrants from all the world that is, not just Europe.
Is there actually good fan-art of Arya that portrays her as the rail-thin horse-faced child she’s supposed to be, and then the jailbait she becomes while in Braavos? Way too much fanart nowadays is biased by that Maisie Williams portrayal (which was literally the opposite of Arya since short, squat and round, pug face).
>>24094586>basically a princess by human terminology How do people stomach these books?
>>24094262Why didn’t that cunt Shae explain that she called him that because of Tyrion’s 8-incher? That would have shut everyone up real quick.
>>24094927>Immigrants from all the world that is, not just Europe.Lmao no
>>24094927Immigrants from Europe built USA, invaders from elsewhere is tearing it down.
>>24094927Well, why not they build themselves another country then? It's seem so easy
>>24094966>>24094984hooked and caught, fat trouts for the wedding
TWOW announcement any moment now that gurm is past his Christmas hangover, right?
>>24091478no way.he became a kingsguard at 21 or something. he was the heir to their lands before becoming a kingsguard too.
>>24094586Not even the worst scene in that book, anon>this is the culmination of five books and five thousand pages of "character development" in Sanderson's magnum opus
GEORGE RR MARTINALIVE AT 76 YEARS OLD
>>24093621That anon is right while you’re wrong and crazy.
>>24093655Small house, you dumb little insolent nigger? Lannister is one of Westeros Great House. Definitely not small, you little monkey.
>>24094262Reminder that Oberyn laughed too, at the expense of Tyrion.
>>24094966Lol yes! You racist liar!>>24094984Immigrants from Africa, Latin-America und Asia helped building USA as well.
>>24094988It’s a team effort motivated by better wages, way and condition of living!
>>24094999this reads like a weird fever dream lmao
I think there is a resurgence of anti-Braavosism, because at this point in time Westeros has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Westeros is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Braavosi are going to be at the centre of that. It's a huge transformation for Westeros to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Braavosi will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Westeros will not survive.
>>24095069Yeah I agree, thing is - I can't say people were immigrating to US because of wages and condition of living wasn't that good either back then, fucking Apaches could appear one day near your hovel, kill everyone and take your scalp while you're still aliveSo yeah, maybe it's wasn't that easy, I wouldn't be the one to know though, I'm not a time traveler, nor I'm from US
GET OFF MY THREAD POLTARDS.fk off ,we're full.
Immigrants build Westeros. Immigrants from all the world that is, not just Andalos.
>>24095087What about Summer islanders, Lyseni, Dothraki or any people currently living in Essos?
>Stannis is bald/ing in his 30s while both his older brother and younger brother were chads with full heads of hairWhat caused this?
>>24095097He just inherited some bad genes from the bald side of the family.
>>24095097the children of the forest caused this
>>24095067You appear to be deranged.
>>24095097Too much testosterone, actually
>>24094950
>>24094988that's because they fell for the American dream propoganda made by america itself to attract worthy immigrants and emigrates.
>>24095097He was too stressed to take care of realm while renly was hooking up with knights and Robert was fucking both of their wives and whores.
>>24095259You are deranged, ignorant, xenophobic and racist. Begone with you!
>>24095538>>24095552Certainly not enough here for Sansa and friends to call her “horse face”, especially since we know it bothers Arya so it can’t just be something that isn’t somewhat rooted in reality.
>>24095633
i like that guy david lightbringer's videos but jesus christ don't go on his twitter his brain completely rotted from politics. Are there any other good channels out there? I've been sick this week and have been enjoying In Deep Geek's asoiaf content
Robertbros....is this true?
>>24095765and just 5 minutes after that they got raped and killed by few northern lords.oh the irony!
>>24095765Can confirm they would indeed have opened Robert's bussy. The loyalists know the truth: the dude was just a strong man and the trident loss speaks more of Rhaegar just not being that good to begin.
>>24095765They got rekt by a 5'1 Crannogman...
>no new years blogOH NO NO NO NO!
>>24094927Nah it was pretty much all white people kek
>>24094911Targaryens were meant to be bred, not to inseminate
>She was sopping wet when he entered her. "Damn you," she said. "Damn you damn you damn you." He sucked her nipples till she cried out half in pain and half in pleasure. Her cunt became the world. She forgot Moat Cailin and Ramsay Bolton and his little piece of skin, forgot the kingsmoot, forgot her failure, forgot her exile and her enemies and her husband. Only his hands mattered, only his mouth, only his arms around her, his cock inside her. He fucked her till she screamed, and then again until she wept, before he finally spent his seed inside her womb.
>>24095087Correct, google Dothraki inventions.This idea that Westeros was built by First Men or the Andals after or even the Valyrians with Aegon its a myth and completely untrue. The maesters tells us Summer Islanders were here long before any of its current inhabitants and built wonders of engineering and architecture. And that the Dothraki taught the Children and the Giants and even figures like Greenhand learned from them. Its unbelievable but its true.
Summer islanders were the original Valyrians. Azor ahai was an evil doctor who created white people as a biological weapon. You white devils really think you’re rhollors chosen? You don’t even have melanin to withstand his light, you are of the great other, your father
>>24095974Watch his next blogpost be a into the lost lands promo
>>24095974>>24096073He posted one yesterday and yes it's a Lost Lands promo
>>24096076
>>24096053Based Yakub enjoyer
Has he lost weight?
What is Rickon up to on Skagos?
>>24096222breaking all of the warging taboosDavos is going to find Rickon, the 4-year-old boy-coomer-father of a large direwolf pack. Even in human form he's constantly trying to climb ontop of Osha and dryhump her ass and legs.
>>24096275>tryingOsha is pregnant
>>24096277Asha is pregnant, not Osha.And a 4-year-old Rickon can't get Osha pregnant
>>24096222>>24096275>direwolf's name is shaggydogRickonbros, I don't feel so good... D&D might've given him an accurate death...
Shagwell the Fool
>>24096373Shagwell by nameShag very well by reputation
I hope Cersei prevails and Robert Strong slaughters the Tyrells, the High Septon, The Sand Snakes, all those little shits in TWOW
>>24096281the shaggydog is so obvious, it must be a red herringDnD fell for it, they ate the trout Rickon will be the savage king of the north at the end of the story, like the Starks of old
>>24096279Who said anything about Rickon
>>24096281NO, it's more of GRRM subverting expectations (the "shaggydog" turns out to be crucial to the plot!! betcha didn't see that coming!)
>>24096771midwit post
>>24096774We know Ghost and Shaggydog are going against Ramsay's hounds so clearly there's a bigger role for Rickon to play
>>24096526>>24096771Rickon might be one of those characters whose use evaporated when the 5 year skip was abandoned. Like Edric Dayne or Edric Storm. At most he could be Stannis' puppet. He's like 5, which is a ridiculous age for a character to have if you want him to have any agency at all. And this is in a series where half the major characters are in their mid teens.
>>24096818>Rickon might be one of those characters whose use evaporated when the 5 year skip was abandoned.He does serve at least one purpose- delivering a fresh army (Skagosi) to the north to join Jon's wildlings and remnants of other northern Houses for the book's version of Battle of the Bastards
Which POV character has the largest breasts and cock?
>>24096794The other direwolves will fight the dogs. Ghost doesn't have long to live sad to say.
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>>24096963Ghost will survive. Lady- dead. Grey Wind- dead. Nymeria- a thousand miles away in the riverlands. No, it has to be Ghost and Shaggydog.
>>24096818Nah Rickon and Dayne are fine, and Robert's bastard never had a big role in the story. >>24096963Ghost will definitely die. But against some dogs? C'mon now
>>24096985>Nymeria- a thousand miles away in the riverlands.For now. >>24097042Not against dogs, but because of the resurrection.
>>24097054What's your Nymeria theory? And how will the resurrection kill Ghost?
>>24097054LOL that's even worse than the dogs. I'm thinking a repeat of the Halfhand fight but this time Jon actually pays the price.
>>24095097Being mad does that to you, my hairline started receding in my mid twenties because I was always irritated. My relax brother still has hair.
>>24095765they got nothing personnel'd by a frogmanlet....
>>24097103His spirit will be too intertwined with Jon's and will be pulled along for the ride when Shireen is burned. Nymeria is more likely to be relevant in future battles.>'You know, I don't like to give things away.' says Martin, a grin spreading across his face. 'But you don't hang a giant wolf pack on the wall unless you intend to use it.'
wtf /lit/ has a GRRM general now? incredibly basedI pray Winds of Winter actually comes out in the next couple of years
>>240972732032 at the earliest because the book will be bigger that ASOS and ADWD and most of the stuff he claimed to have written for like the first five years was overflow from AFOF and ADWD.
>>24097281>2032Why would you speak that into the universe anon
just finished the second book. it's still just a bunch of lords fighting for a throne. it's like reading about a carpenter who has a carpentry shop and carpenters stuff.
>>24097291I have been coping that is been only a couple years away for literally ten years now. At this point I am much more confident that after House of the Dragon and Knight of the Seven Kingdoms flops, WB collapses and some other fantasy slop gets adapted Gurm will feel the motivation to actually just power through and get Winds out for his legacy and release one of the biggest books ever. At the current pace and motivation level he seems to have I have absolute zero faith that it will possibly come out in 2-3 years.
>>24097297I just hope he lives long enough that time isn't a huge issue, God willingI cannot believe this man managed to waste 3 years of isolation during a pandemic
Do you think Tysha actually loved Tyrion or did she just see him as an easy meal ticket?
>>24097292It's more than that, anon. You'll see as the threads continue to unravel. And although the macro plot progression is important, hone in on individual characters' motivations and desires and so on. That is where the book is truly rich.
>>24097281>>24097291>>24097297>>24097299He's got at least 1100 manuscript pages plus drafts and fragments, he's getting close it's just a matter of how big he wants the book to be (he mentioned 1800)
>>240973091800 is absurd. can a publisher even put all that into one book?
>>240973151800 manuscript pages is around 1400 book pages so it would probably be split into two volumes
>>24097325Might as well publish part 1 now while you finish part 2 lol
>>24097326He probably can't do that because some POVs are finished but others still have lots of work, he doesn't have a complete "part 1" yet
>>24097273It will be out this year but sadly GRRM is dying at 81>>24097315If i'm not mistaken the physycal limit is something like 1500 or 1600 pages. Alas they can always publish it as two tomes.
can someoe post the dance of the dragons characters as wojaks image?
>>24097571Stannis is a chud
why do the riverlands descend into fall of dynasty china level chicanery at any given opportunity?
>>24095985Being this delusional and racist lol
>>24097743do they? i don't remember millions being eatenthere's chaos and a lack of control, which is expected when armies sweep across and plunder everything while the feudal lords who could restore control die and get captured left and right with no one to take over their lands for the time being (who wants to help fix a holding if they wont be the ones to own it at the end of the war?)
>>24097302The latter.>>24097743What are you trying to say? I don’t understand you.
>>24097651You’re an dumb incel.
