I just finished reading it, medical students definitely fucking read it
>medical students>readMost medical students are nothing but glorified search engines and pill dispensers, you have to often tardwrangle them into giving you the correct or necessary tests to not make you waster your time and money, general practitioners are flesh mechanics and usually giga retards, thread around them accordingly.t. Knower
>>24104749basically like every other profession, where the top 5-10% really know their shit and are highly capable, and the rest are as you describe
>>24104749those are healthcare heros you are maligning. if this was 4 years ago i could have you debanked
>>24104720Doctors are not particularly smart. Had a terrible skin condition growing up. Noticed at age 19 that it was not so bad when I stopped consuming milk. I kept a food diary, identified other foods that affected my skin. After a few months my skin was in in near-normal condition.The Dr's? Prescribed me various creams and pills throughout childhood, but they had little effect.The popular messaging is that the idea that "you can be cured solely by diet" is absolutely insane, anti-science etc. Yet in this case (I can't speak for others) it was most of the problem.Though then again I did use the NHS (we are taxed through the nose for it) growing up, never a private Dr.Anyway fuck this world thankfully it ends in 60 or 70 years.
>>24104720what's it about?
>>24104776A collection of real stories from a neurosurgeon, but the stories he told changed my perspective on doctors, I can even say that it changed my perspective on life. (english is not my first language)
>>24104769>NHSMy condolences, specially now with all the sirs as doctors
>>24104784>but the stories he told changed my perspective on doctors, I can even say that it changed my perspective on life.Can you elaborate?
>>24104790He talks about his patients their families and their well being. While talking about this he explains how difficult it is for patients to have their lives in their own hands. And the literary language is very good, you don't want to put the book down.
>>24104720Either Celine or picrel.Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.
>>24104788NHS worked better 10-20 years ago, fell off since then
>>24104769I went to the ER, five times in seven years, for severe pain in my toes. >give me x-ray>say nothing's wrong>here's your bill, GTFO>pain's gone by the time I can get to a GPSeven years of this shit, before I did what I should have done first - went on MedRx.com, answered some questions and 2 minutes later - "You likely have gout". This is what it is, this is what causes it, this is what you should do and here are the tests your doctor should run. A free fucking online program beat out 5 doctors and a dozen nurses.
>>24104769>The popular messaging is that the idea that "you can be cured solely by diet" is absolutely insane, anti-science etc.It's been well-established science for a long time.
>>24104972Grim, because this has happened to me not once but 4 times and my saviors were differential diagnosis books, reddit (yes yes, but nothing beats the experience of thousands of people combined) and my own common sense and lateral thinking, I also diagnosed my mother in law correctly two times, of course nothing beats a propper medic but damn it helps to know a bit
>>24104720Okay op, I have one for you that's also in the medical-science field. It's written in narrative form with the writer meeting with scientists and doctors all around the world to learn about zoonotic diseases. It's ten times more horrifying than any horror book I've read because he explains zoonotic diseases as the equivalent of a lottery for diseases. They have more chances to evolve and survive the more their carriers interact with humans. It's a very good book. I'm an industrial engineer major and I could understand the material just fine.
>>24104972This is your own fault. You should already be pretty confident what your problem is before you even see a doc. Or at least have a few contenders. Acute onset pain in toe is THE symptom of gout. You'd have found that in a few minutes if you tried. When the X-ray was clean you'd ask them to test for gout. Don't outsource your health to a stranger.
>>24104720Ain't that a kick in the head
>>24104749Really like the way you phrased it
>>24104972>A free fucking online program beat out 5 doctors and a dozen nurses.This has been known for a long time. Simple flowcharts outperform doctors. Today I'm sure you can just tel chatGPT your symptoms and it will diagnose you faster and better than a doctor. Problem is that you still need a doc to write the prescription and they are never going to give up that privilege.
>>24106431Signs and symptoms aren’t enough for a diagnosis. You would still have to be tested in accordance with the differential diagnosis.
>>24104972>7 years for a gout diagnosisShouldn’t have eaten like a pig, anon.
Women do well at schools because women need to be micromanaged all the fucking time and the way to have a good grade is jsut too dump preformed answers to preformed questions.Women do well at school because it is a strong structure, where the answers are already given about what to do and what not to do. Women do not have to think for themselves.Once women are out of school, their life are awful and they just ride the cock carousel because they listen to anybody chad telling them it is okay to be sluts. In other words, women have no concept of right and wrong, so they need to hear morality from men...Then women would like to have a meaningful life and stop feeling being slut princesses so they get pregnant and care for a child for a few years, only to realize that they miss the golden days of having a comfy life from lots of orbiters free of charge, so they go back to this, but in secret since they got an official provider during their settling down period.This also applies to medicine.medicine is for drone Normies who want to feel scientific and all doctors are technicians, not even engineers and even less scientists.all nurses are gigawhores, full of herpes and they give handjobs to the patients who have the biggest cocksno jokeso it is normal for coomers and whores to idolize other coomers and whores.Same thing for women and law schools.
>>24104972>>24104749In line with this (I’m a shittt writer but hopefully you can bear with me):>be me>be a teen>like walking outside and in parks or nature a lot>get bit by tick>don’t notice the tick for a while, might’ve been feeding on my blood for about a day maybe, until it grew big enough I just felt something random on my back under my shirt, thought it was a button or something sticky that fell there somehow, and take it off with my bare hand>freak out when I see it’s a tick I’m holding in my fingers, instantly throw it in the toilet and flush it>think things are fine because am dumb teen and not too knowledgeable about ticks spreading disease>within about a week, start getting weird symptoms of extreme fatigue, brain fog, a strangely altered mindset, joint pain, soreness, eventually I’m becoming occasionally bedridden>symptoms ebb and flow for some days, some days they’re worse, some days better. Sick for a bit, then recover, then it the symptoms ramp up again within days, then back away in cycles>I start googling the symptoms and of course remember the tick bite, so I include that in my research>”oh shit, I almost certainly have Lyme disease, ticks can spread then and it matches up with the symptoms”>go to doctor >he asks me, “Do you feel any of these symptoms RIGHT NOW?”>I explain right now it’s not that bad but before it was, then the symptoms went away for a while, then they come back, etc., it’s been like that for a week or two>he’s skeptical and dismissive>suggests the blood test to check if I have Lyme disease is a hassle or pricey or time-consuming etc. >”also you should have saved the tick in a Ziploc bag so we could test it”>I also don’t have the classic “bulls-eye rash” said to be indicative of Lyme disease, but as I learned online, this only shows up in some patients>does some simple test of moving my arms and shoulders around, my neck, etc., asking if I feel joint or muscular pain when that happens>”right now thankfully not so much, but those are the exact symptoms I’ve felt within the last week or two, and I’m sure they’ll come back again within the next few days since that keeps happening”>he dismisses it>luckily I have my parents on my side and they eventually urge for him to get me a blood test for it or refer me to a doctor who can, takes a few days>then takes about another week for the results to come back>”oh shit you actually do have Lyme’s disease”>never get a “sorry” or “my bad”
>>24108667>they finally get me on antibiotics for it, a course of an antibiotic that’s specifically a good treatment for Lyme’s disease, for about a month>did seem to help in the short-term, but then every few months in the upcoming years, random Lyme’s disease symptoms , exactly like what I felt, would come back, sometimes leaving me bedridden for days, staying home from school/work>I look it up and apparently the best treatment would’ve been if I got on the antibiotics as soon as possible after being infected, instead of it being pushed some weeks ahead by a douchey doctor>the longer taken to get you on antibiotics after the infection, the more likely long-term bad side effects are>also, find mainstream medical establishment online denying “chronic Lyme disease” in line with what I’ve experienced even exists; they claim it’s “hypochondria”, patients malingering, making it up in their heads, paranoia, confusing simple colds or flus for it, etc., because “the science shows the infection can’t live on that long in the body or have effects for so long”>I never wanted to fucking have chronic recurrent Lyme disease symptoms, and not only that, but I objectively experienced those exact symptoms before I ever learned what Lyme disease symptoms were, then from memory and experience knew I was experiencing them again months later>also, countless other thousands of people seem to be complaining about it online, viz. chronic Lyme disease, independently from me, and I also didn’t know about that rabbit-hole before looking it up. So it’s not psychosomatic or hypochondria, at least in my book>these people are again dismissed by a lot of the mainstream medical establishment as “hypochondriacs”, at worst even deliberate malingerers>which could be true for some people, but not for allAnd that’s why I hate the fucking medical system.Happy (yet bizarre) news: for years, this shit would come back every few months, alternating over days across some weeks, where I’d get this extreme exhaustion and joint-pain leaving me bedridden, just like the Lyme disease symptoms I initially felt, but eventually they just went away. Haven’t felt it for years now. Maybe it’s just that I got on a better diet, more exercise, and my body slowly healed itself. I still fucking hate the medical establishment, and not only but the Pentagon and American scientist faggot assholes who may’ve even created or manipulated this modern fucked up form of Lyme disease.https://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-weaponized-ticks-lyme-disease-investigation-1449737Goddamn fucking bullshit woke me up to how shitty the medical community can be, besides even possibly incredibly unethical and dangerous bio-weapon research could be going on in the West, long before the Wuhan flu ever did. Fucking spirochetes, man. Corkscrew shape, burrowing down into your cells, maybe there for years, and genetically modified versions of them, at that. Oh yeah, recurring fevers were another symptom.
>>24107437It's cheaper nowadays to order your own labs online than to go to a specialist and try to wrangle the proper test out of them, only to still be charged by your insurance for the blood test.
>>24108684But in the end you will have to go to them for treatment. At least you'll know ahead of time and not waste any time. But doctors do get annoyed and spiteful at patients who know too much.
>>24104983At the time, I was still doing the typical "doctors know best" routine. It took me a long time to figure out it's just a job and they don't give a fuck and that was BEFORE the chinkyvax scam.
>>24105031You're absolutely right - it just took me a lot of pain, to figure that out.
>>24107441It's in my family. My dad had it young, too, but I never knew. I've never done the fast food/soda/fried-everything shit.
>>24108667Yeah, they'll pull this shit. Unless you are actually gushing blood, they think you're a hypochondriac. Shout and get in their face and make a fuss. Being stoic, acting like a man and dealing with the pain get you absolutely nowhere.
>>24104720I've read The Checklist Manifesto and other books I no longer remember that basically collectively reveal that the operating room is a complete clownshow where nurses are afraid to tell the prima donna surgeon that he's operating on the wrong limb etc.
>>24108667>>24108680Yeah that's fucked but common. You have to basically diagnose yourself and then insist on the proper tests. The doctor is only there to prescribe you drugs after you figured out what your own problem is. Sometimes you have to lie about symptoms to get tests, especially if they're intermittent like this story; I'd have just pretended the symptoms were bad at that moment.>>24108854>>24110367Pretty much every time now I go to the doctor I already know what it is and have tried the possible home remedies. When you describe things you have to be exhaustive and precise to guide them to your own conclusion. There should be basically nothing for them to examine after you're done talking (but they still will). This is an example of my visits, which all go like this:>what seems to be the problem anon?I have left side neck pain when tilting my head left, ear to shoulder. The pain does not happen when I rotate my head or any other movement. It does not improve with heat or ice. I have tried a course of 3200mg ibuprofen for 5 days, which helped only temporarily. Massage doesn't help. The pain is sharp and feels like impingement, not muscular, and it is always there if I tilt the head. I have no other symptoms.Since the pain is on the same side as the tilt, I don't think it can be a muscle strain, as the muscle would be shortening in that position; also, it has been going on too long without improvement. There is no neuropathy, and no weakness in extremities nor in the neck itself, and no pain in most positions, so a herniated disc seems unlikely. Based on all this I think it's probably arthritis or a facet joint impingement in my neck, so I was hoping to get an MRI.>hmmm yeah I think you're probably right, let me just examine you a bit...>does nothing useful, at best just getting me to repeat what I said>Yeah I'm going to schedule you for an MRI anonEvery damn time
>>24110415It's important that you have tried all the home remedies first (heat, ice, high dose NSAIDs, massage) because if you haven't, there's a good chance the doctor tells you to go do that and come back if it doesn't help. This wastes your time and money. Leave the doctor no other option but to do their damn job, by ruling out everything you could at home.
>>24110422This, so much.
>>24110422Why are they reluctant to do the tests? Don't they make money off of it too?
>>24108680haha like BOO nigga
