Why bother writing a novel when the best books have already been written?For me, Houellebecq did it, though Hemingway is also great.
>>24108463You think an author who's first work came out in '91 renders writing useless?
>>24108463you think they have the same outlook?
>>24108463one day youll be embarrassed by this post, I hope.
>>24108463I think this attitude reveals that you lack originality or an actual passion for writing. I love writing because I think I have something to write about that no one else has yet, or at least in this time period. Doesn't matter if it won't be as good as other great books, I love writing it regardless
>>24108778Nice nose
>>24108463a troll postNot to mention the sheer amount of persons that were repulsed just by the aesthetics of his.He checks all the meme ticks in his books so I couldn't stop stop wondering what his watering hole would look like , like if he was juiced in most of the "good" contemporary concepts, although would never arrive on any of them if had to "on his own". I even cant decide if he's "based" or "cringe", although the latter most likely.
>>24108463They have been written, but nobody reads them. You can be great to somebody
>>24108463I feel that way about Nietzsche. Like why would anyone need to read about my worldview when this exists
>>24108463>i loved the 'elementary particles'>i hated 'whatever'books for this feel, anyone?p.s. extra points for the opinions stating that 'Houellebecq can be saved'
Remembering how fucking ugly Houllebecq is always cracks me up.
>>24108463Because you have something meaningful to say.
The necessity of arrogance. Any writer who's read the masters and still writes must have the arrogance to put his own potential(!) achievements on level with the work he most admires. >>24109742Don't try to be original, just try to be good.
>>24108463>Why bother writing a novel when the best books have already been written?What is it like not having a single creative bone in your body?
>>24111350you tell me
>>24111351>you tell meOK, it must suck knowing you don't have a single creative bone in your bodySome of us on here (not many) have actual talentYou probably post the dumb philosophy bullshit on here as the sad, pathetic, useless pseudo you are or aspire to be
>>24111385>it must suck>(not many)>pseudjudging by your very original insults, it’s obvious you’re brimming with the creative impulse
>>24108922A hit dog will holler.
this isn't even just about creativity and its impulsecreating a work of art is like the opposite of reproduction. a writer grows up in a matrix (culture, art, politics, etc.), and then they come to choose a set of parents, a lineage, and continue their evolution--that's what it's like to write after a generational greata literary work and literature are very much alive. gives me shivers to hear the clamor of influences and voices in any major writer's work
>>24108463I don't get why people talk about this guy.Didn't read one book he wrote that I liked.
>>24108463>"why bother">"the best has already been done"You are one pathetic human being.
>>24111123>>24111123I have no idea if his writing is better or more elegant in the original French, but it sounds like crap in English. Yet I still enjoy his ability to evoke an utterly devastating atmosphere of nihilism and despair, so I enjoy his books on some level and continue to read them. Other writers like that for me include Stephen King, Sally Rooney, and Haruki Murakami.Were it not for Houellebecq's subject matter and the timelines of his novels, I don't think he would have been so widely acclaimed.
>>24108778Too Fat to Fish beats them both.
>>24108463I like Houellbecq but his work only really examines a very limited scope of themes.I do think, that atleast for the time being, if anyone was going to try and write something that deals with cultural decay in the west, than, yes, the best books have been written. Houellbecq has that locked down.However, there is certainly a lot more to write about.Also, even though I think his work is unbelievable, I never would want to write something like that. He'll be forever known as the voice of the incels.
>>24108778potato
I'm really liking the Houellebecq seethe I'm seeing, 6 years ago he was one of the only authors talked about on here, now nobody is talking about his latest book, probably because it names the wiccans, and anything said about him is 'dark, nihilist, incel, overrated,' all the mkultra associative trigger words needed to suppress discussion. Some guy comes along saying, 'I like Houellebecq,' everybody will know to steer clear of that guy, he must be a nihilist incel. Love to see it.
>>24108463Because there is no Game of Thrones written from a marxist perspective
>>24112540We talked about it, it was just boring and not thought evoking like his previous works
>>24112663The word you were looking for is 'provoking,' because you're not original and I'm saving you embarrassment.That's not true, but good larp. It was everything his previous books were and then some, with just enough tweaks to keep it fresh and interesting.You might be suffering from that thing Nietzsche talked about in The Gay Science, something like:"Books and drafts mean different things to different thinkers: one has collected in a book the lights that he was able swiftly to steal and carry home from the rays of some insight that dawned on him; another is able to convey only the shadows, the after-images in grey and black, of that which built itself up in his soul the day before." Or maybe:"There is a human being who has turned out badly, who does not have spirit enough to be able to enjoy it and just enough education to know this; bored, weary, a self-despiser; wealthy through inheritance, he is deprived even of the last comfort, 'the blessings of work', self-forgetfulness in 'daily labour'. Such a person who is basically ashamed of his existence perhaps he also harbours a few small vices - and on the other hand cannot keep himself from becoming more spoiled and touchy as a result of reading books he has no right to or through more spiritual company than he can digest: such a thoroughly poisoned human being - for spirit becomes poison, education becomes poison; ownership becomes poison, loneliness becomes poison in persons who have turned out badly in this way eventually ends up in a state of habitual revenge, the will to revenge . . ."
>>24108463>Incel gives up on society because he can’t have sexI just described every single book written by this guy in 1 sentence.
>>24112540>>24111758>>24108463Did he ever write anything better than The Elemenary Particles? I read it and it was good and enjoyable. I dropped Submission in the second chapter because I realized his schtick got boring.
>>24108463I can't take this nigga seriously anymore knowing that he (and all of his characters, even the Whatever guy) is a fakecel. I feel betrayed.
>>24112931It's funny how you take one character, who's not even the protagonist, from one of his books and project it on to his whole body of work.
No one here ever talks about his scifi book were people become lonely immortal clones.
>>24112988>>24113163>The Elemenary Particleswas this some kind of homage to Carl Sagan and '70s when the world made sense'?BC the author wouldn't threw around names like EPR paradox and 'nonlocality' for nothing, like if he was Roger Penrose(looki it up) , although reason not apparent in book imho)The book gives away strong vibes of 'Focault's pendulum', but instead of unorthodox popsci discourse it dwindles down to: yeah he was petting her crotch until it felt so salty and then he mounted without ever seeing her face etc etc