Do the actions of certain authors put you off of reading their works/enjoying their contents properly?
I was already put off by him being a subversive jew
I was already put off by him being a male feminist.>Believe al women. -t. Neil Gaiman
What did he do, get too much pussy? Had sex HIS WAY on HIS TERMS? 50 years ago we'd have all laughed off the allegation and the CIA would help him hide dead hookers as a token of appreciation for his cultural contributions.
>>24109418Neil would had said that if you aren't believing all women, you are such a right wing conservative bigot. Is Neil right or wrong?
His writing style disgusted me already 20 years ago, never liked the guy or any of his books. A tree is known by its fruit.
only low iq retards would have trouble compartmentalizing the author from his oeuvre because they mostly react emotionally to everything, reasoning for them usually happens after their social echo chamber garners enough approva to defend someone, this phenomenon is evident in politics where seemingly well meaning average people lose the ability to reason and react emotionally to candidates--who they would not pay attention to in any other context--because the echo chamber deems it necessary for social cohesion, no, biden is not creepy, he is a necessary evil for our society, kamala is a black woman, we need her in power because she represents the oppressed minority, trump and musk are going to change america because they are billionaires who understand the system, gaiman is evil because he is the first successful author who got away with sexual deviancy, we must believe all women and crucify, don't think, emote, god forbid they fail to identify you as a beautiful soulful creature who feels everyone's pain
>>24109359I find that awful, untalented people often make the worst art. So I'm often put off by their art well before any allegations come out. Zoe Quinn? Terrible game developer well before she murdered those people and went tranny. Adam Savage? Horribly annoying, virtue signaling faggot well before his sister accused him of rape. Lena Dunham? I hated her well before she confessed to raping her underage sister as well. I wonder what horrible things Brandon Sanderson has done.
>>24109485Writing so much autism just to say that you are an actual hypocrite in the end.
>>24109359No if I like an author or I'm interested in his works. Yes if I don't like an author or find him mediocre.
>>24109506i don't subscribe to your shallow moralities, i'm able to enjoy gaiman's works without allusions to his perceived character, but you missed that bit because not being perceived as a hypocrite is more important to you than critical reasoning
>>24109522>i'm able to enjoy gaiman's works
ever since i realized that goebbells and hitler killed 6 million innocent jews,i stopped reading their slop. i thought they were only being edgy.
>>24109661says the seething retard who can't stop replying
It depends. I could support Hemingway despite the alcoholism, philandering and wife-beating. Finding out he was a proto-tranny was a bridge too far doe.
>>24109666Admitting to reading genre fiction and cartoons. Unforgivable sins.
>When he returned, he brought butter to use as lubricant. She continued to scream until Gaiman was finished. When it was over, he called her “slave” and ordered her to “clean him up.” She protested that it wasn’t hygienic. “He said, ‘Are you defying your master?’” she recalls. “I had to lick my own shit.”I knew there was something wrong with Murican writters and stools.. shit arouses them somehow, like picrel
>>24109697That's a common English expression.
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>>24109697god i wish martin gets in trouble like gayman too and we can finally nuke /grrm/ threads. i wish this to happen right when he announces release date of TWOW.it would be so funny.....
>>24109359Neil Gaiman had an extraordinary career. And I mean that literally. It was Extra Ordinary.Writers who’ve hit it big all have the same complaint. Some rando will come up to them and make the following offer; “I’ve got this absolutely amazing idea for a story. Here’s the deal, I’ll tell you about the idea, then you write the book and then we split the money.” Gaiman’s biggest successes were in getting people to actually do that for him. Anyone who’s read Terry Pratchett knows damn good and well who did all of the heavy lifting in Good Omens. Even Gaiman admitted it. As for Sandman, the most amazing comic book of all time, how much of that comic’s success was due to the artwork? Without Sam Kieth, Mike Dringenberg, Jill Thompson, Shawn McManus, Marc Hempel, Bryan Talbot, and Michael Zulli, would anyone have the vivid impressions of that title that they do? They were the real storytellers, Gaiman just had the ‘amazing idea.’ Which half the time were retreads of somebody else’s work.As for the King of Dreams, let’s be honest here, Morpheus was nothing more than a Mary Sue and a pretty obvious one at that. And one that no one can look at now without seeing the true horror it was masking. Sandman is about to be swept under the rug alongside his “creator.”It is over. It is ended.
>>24109765GRRM wasn't an tall (even semi-)handsome guy, who could fantasize about some cultish shit like "Call me master", so I don't think so. Pity sex - that's his max.
>>24109776I liked Dave McKean's covers.
>>24109359Na. Not if their in their morality/ethical behavior business. Like a priest, yes. A fiction writer, no.I think he made some good songs during his most lucid time/prime.
>>24109485The thing is his oeuvre is highly connected with his self as a person, most of his fans read his works with the assurance of his good character in real life, which is to be expected considering his social persona. Neil Gaiman's antics has made it so that his books are connected to himself, not by the way of his skill—his readers don't read his books just because he is a good writer or has good plots—but because he is Neil Gaiman. Now when they try to read these mild works of fiction there is a jarring effect that is created due to their reading of the book not reconciling with the man's self.
>>24109359Alan Moore is next, I think, for the chop. Heard a few stories about him
>>24109359I liked Ocean at the End of the Road, or whatever it was called.But I became very disappointed that the author is only jewish and I can't read him further...
>>24110461the vulture article suggests that is based on his experiences in the church of scientology. I haven't read the book but maybe I will now
>guy rights nothing but horror and dark fantasy>whoa that guy was twisted in real life no way that's so crazy
>>24109359It's fascinating people pretend to believe this. Someone will say they stopped reading Harry Potter because Rowling believes in Biology, while they have a Tupac poster on their wall.
>>24109697what's up with sexual degeneracy and being satanic?
>>24109359Do you think there are women out there right now who had excellent sex with Gaiman, maybe even swallowed his load, or let his wife lick out his load from their pussy, etc, and who feel a little guilty? Like "oh no I'm so sorry that happened to you, really I am, I still touch myself to the memory of him fucking me though, he didn't rape me so it's different, I feel so bad"
Some people's art does not achieve escape velocity from the facts of their life. The art itself is just not strong enough. Gaiman is a writer of entertainment, no more than that--its entertainment value is now totally overshadowed by the frailties and cruelties of his person. No one will attempt to do for him what we do for Salinger or Mailer or Burroughs.
>>24109359I don't get the attitude at all. So only good people can write good books, so if the author is a prick you suddenly discover that the book is bad so how could you read it?And why do we do this with art only. If it came out that the inventor of optic fiber was an asshole, would we stop using optic fiber? Baffles the fuck out of me.
>>24111747inventor of optic fiber did not create a system of aesthetics in the form of a work of art, to begin
>>24111755So what? Do only good people have a good sense of aesthetics, in contraposition to optic fiber engineers, that can design good devices even if they are bad people? Fucking retard.
>>24111747the vast majority of people experience art via parasocial attachment to the author which is why they find pretension so offensive
>>24111774there are actually many levels above rapist who engages in hardcore sex in the same hotel room as his four-year-old son before you even get to "good person" and not the point. the point is that art is made from spare parts, some of that is the world, some of it's your soul. this is not true of creating optic fiber, but you can make that point, and I would listen with an open mind. there are many tortured, mixed-up souls who make great art. i can't think of a sentimental pervert writer of YA who fits that bill this convo is pointless unless you are willing to say Gaiman is a Great artist
>>24109505>I wonder what horrible things Brandon Sanderson has done.He butchered his characters.
I like art by people I knew were deranged assholes.Gaiman is cringe middle class tosser tho. He has the grit of Hugh Grant.
I forgive Sean Connery more for admitting to beating women on television, than I do Gaiman for simply existing and being annoying.
>>24109359>Do the actions of certain authors put you off of reading their works/enjoying their contents properly?No, authors are just names on the books. I couldn't care less about them.
>>24109359Only when it's mediocre.
>>24109359No. I mean, i'm reading Mein Kampf right now. I don't care about the political or philosophical stance of the author, as long as the book is actually good and/or interesting. So far, he fails at the task. Not sure, if i will finish it.
>>24110442Lost Girlsiykyk
>>24112781Providence too
Neil Not-so-Gaiman
No but early life usually does
i've read gide, burroughs, ginsberg, foucault, Wilde etc and enjoyed many of their writings..... but I will not read them again as they were pedophiles who raped pre-pubescent children. That's my red line. I don't have a problem with reading McCarthy, for example, as he had relationships with 17yr olds ... not 7 yr olds.
The problem is that Gaiman like to rape his own fans too much. This create an eerie sensation in the back of the mind of the reader. Now in all of his work the subtext has change to "I crafted this writing with the specific purpose of grooming and lower your defenses, dear reader, as my ultimate goal is to anal rape you and desecrate your butter"
>>24113147Gaiman would be much more based if he was only into raping fans of Hemingway or something. Sadly these criminal whites often rape the ones closest to them.
>>24109411fpbp
I don't really care who wrote the book I'm reading and don't want to know anything about them. I judge a book by its contents. If the author comes to my attention by other channels, then that's a separate matter. Like, I enjoy McCarthy's works, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have liked the man if I ever met him. The same with Hemingway, or Faulkner.That said, I don't like Gaiman's books any more than I like the guy himself.
i tend to assume that most famous people harbour some kind of dark and awful secret anyway to be honest. like you could tell me that any beloved author or public figure of any kind was secretly buying third world children to hunt for sport and i wouldn't be surprised it makes no difference if i like their art, if they're a creator. i like authors for how well they write books, not for how upstanding moral citizens they are
>>24109359Dostoevsky was a degenerate gambler and a cheater, i don't know if you can really connect with his orthodox christian message fully with background like this
>>24109765Martin frontloads all his weird pervyness into writing loads of sex into his books. I’ll bet he’s actually very timid irl, he strikes me as the kind of nerd who’s too afraid of women to ever be pushy with one, let alone commit rape or assault. >>24113147Fucking kek, this is why he’s so insufferable as a writer. He has the same søy, forced ‘cool hip relatable’ energy as a youth pastor.
>>24109765That would be the happening of the decade.
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>>24113293There are way too many people around the world, men and women, willing to suck this old fat fuck's dick entirely consensually, just thinking about it is like mental rape to me.
>>24109411This
>>24110687I'm out of the loop. What's the story on Salinger?
>>24109359I only read rapists
