What will be the short- and long-term consequences of men being effectively banned from writing fantasy and sci-fi books?
>>24110450Who even cares? As if any of the stuff denied to be published is any good or that different from what is published.
>>24110450You people really do just want DEI for white men
>Necroing a 10 years old "viral video" just to take (You)sJokes on you, I know how to sage
>>24110464damn it only took you 5 minutes to accuse everybody else of what you are doing
>>24110482>>24110464You people should be ashamed for even knowing what those 3 letters even mean. You guys are so weird. Are you self aware at all? You just blindly accept these new memes without any curiosity of where they come from or how ephemeral they are? Why do you even pretend you have principles or stand for anything? You clearly don't.
>>24110494you saw the "I support the current thing" wojak/NPC memes, experienced a shock of self-recognition, and didn't like it
>>24110455>>24110464>>24110474Denounce the talmud
>>24110464Yes, EVERY group should have lobbying interests.Migtows unite, we're in for a fight.
>>24110507Amen.
>>24110503I genuinely don't know any or your internet jokes
>>24110450What was the viral video?
>>24110455Definitely different from what is being published. As for quality? Who is to say? Nobody has read it.
nothing of value will have been lost. i wish foids and niggers were banned too. then we could focus on healing
>>24110539Nobody would have read it if it was published too. Its all just brandon sanderson copycats. Let's be a bit real here.
>>24110552Haven't read Sanderson either. I don't read very much fantasy at all anymore. I liked Gormenghast as a kid though, has anything similar been written since?
>>24110494Do you have a point or do you just want to jerk yourself off about how above it all you are
>viral videoI haven't seen or heard about any viral video. All I see is an image with text on it.
>>24110450The genre will degenerate into elf porn for women and hopefully I will never have to hear male nerds talk about genreslop again in my life.
>>24110455>>24110464>>24110494>>24110518I would say this is a bot but at this part jews and fat females are indistinguishable from the nonsense jews spew.It's been common knowledge on /lit/ that publishing is run primarily by jews and they despise straight white men.
Rise of the Web Novel. Death of traditional publishing. We've seen it before in other media
>>24110673I'm not a bot. Its genre fiction dude. Not even genre fiction. Walmart novels. Thats the hill you want to die on?
What these people haven't figured out yet, is just because you force people out of one area, they don't cease to exist. The fact that young men suddenly seem to be solely into podcasts, gym culture, a "new right" politics, is a direct result of the fact that these men got shunted out of just about everything else. So, if you hate Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate, maybe think about that for a second.
>>24110450Self publishing will rise
>>24110776All this stuff sucks. Get real.
>>24110790>missing the pointculture is moving whether you like it or not
>>24110464Honestly, yeah.
>>24110450The indie scene blows up. Women niggers and fags start crying it's all white men in the indie scene.
>>24110450Shit is dead anyway. Its been killed by female readers, their lack of taste and romantisy or whatever its called
>>24110813That's not relevant to anything. I'm not the enemy you have in your head
>>24110464>deliberately excluding based on race and gender is the same thing as deliberately promoting by race and genderIt’s amazing how the people who spent so long condemning it then switch to wanting racism and sexism to guide society, and somehow it’s different because it targets people they hate? It’s so self contradictory it’s beyond hypocrisy into mental illness.
>>24110901>deliberately promoting by race and genderYou people really do just want affirmative action for white men
>>24110909anon do you understand what "affirmative action for white men" means when everybody else but white men already get affirmative action?
>>24110776I thought it was a joke, but you lot don't realize how the capitalist doesn't give a shit about inclusivity.If white males don't read, there will be no novel targetted toward white males. Simple as.Ever thought why there are no fantasy novels for black males? Why there are no space opera novels for white women?Exactly, because that shit doesn't sell.
>>24110776Andrew Tate is an insufferable faggot. It's extremely sad that anyone looks up to him as a "male role model". Please don't fall for that shit anon, it's not good for you.
>>24110916It's so fucking funny to watch you people reinvent CRT from first principles except backwards and then screech that it's totally not the same thing at all
>>24110455The genres will quickly decline in quality until they are abandoned and die in obscurity. Only the pre Marxist works will stand the test of time./Thread end
>>24110455It probably is. My first manuscript got picked up for representation by the same agent who represented Tom Clancy for his entire career, along with Clive Cussler. You can say those aren't great writers, and there is a small amount of merit to that, but they were enormous earners. Mostly because they wrote books explicitly for 1/2 of the market which is totally and deliberately ignored for the last like 15 years. So this agent had a track record of picking earners and publishers wouldn't even call him back or return his pitch emails-- a 30 year veteran in the business, head of an entire agency, and multimillionaire who had made all of these houses a fortune. The few that responded to the head agent, of the largest literary agency in the world, pitching them a new author asking for a trivial advance and royalties was..."There is no market for fiction in the demographic the author is writing for". Its fucked because the acquisition editors for most of the big 3, the ones dealing with brand new writers, are super young, super woke, and highly inexperienced. The older editors who can remember shit like "Yeah Hunt for Red October wasn't really preferred type of fiction, and wasn't breaking any new literary ground, but did make us 68368 gazillion dollars" are all managing the shrinking pool of known earners who got in before the purple hairs slammed the gates shut. They are leaving fortunes on the table with these policies.
>>24110954You're missing the entire point. The people who tried to expunge the media of "toxic masculinity" have now screwed themselves, and created a much more real version of it.
>>24110950Bro, all of the best books have been written already. No one gives a shit. I hope the entire industry collapses.
>>24110455You're not qualified to comment on this topic, obviously.
>>24110954>Andrew Tate is an insufferable faggot.He is, by he's one of the few people who isn't anti-male, so there you go.
>>24110494>ou people should be ashamed for even knowing what those 3 letters even mean.Liberal hands wrote this post.
>>24110450men are slowly being banned from producing anything non pozzed in america, most media targets women now
>>24110450More male's self publishing ebooks on Amazon or wherever. Next question.
>>24110909It’s funny watching you act like you can’t understand >deliberately excluding based on race and gender is the same thing as deliberately promoting by race and gender
>>24110960Blacks get affirmative action because they can't compete even after barriers were removed for them. They're either too racially inferior or their culture is too brutish and anti-intellectual, pick whatever explanation suits you. White men have been systematically pushed out of everything that we've already proven we can compete perfectly well in. Removing sexist and racist barriers against white men is not affirmative action. A level playing field would suit us just fine. But we now face significant cultural discrimination from people who think it is morally objectionable to allow us to thrive.
>>24110673It is a bot, or at least a dedicated shill, because out of every thread, the ones about the publishing industry will, without fail, have some retard running damage control and insisting that none of the calls for submissions asking exclusively for gay brown books are real, and if it is real, it's a totally organic purely economic trend.
>>24110450More men will become communists in response. Most incels these days are halfway to communism already.
>>24111293That's terrible
https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/85450-the-unbearable-whiteness-of-publishing-revisited.html
>>24110998Good posts. We're living in a dark age. Nobody should be ashamed to write anything to survive.
>>24110450>Outrage media with clickbait titleFuck off OP.
>>24111501That is a painful read. How could someone write so much yet say so little? >Back in 1995 publishing was too white.>It's still too white today in 2021! >We need more colored writers! >Covid19 and George Floyd! >Social media agrees! >Publishing is an old business! >There's a thing that says publishing is too white! >We need more coloreds! >Publishers are pledging for more colored authors! >I had a scholarship and a grant for being black, but it wasn't enough. D: >I worked with lot of big names in publishing! :D>There are very few women like me in publishing! (Humble brag! >:3)>Entry level salaries are low! what the fuck is she even talking about?
Just remember what happened to a certain Austrian lad ~100 years ago when he was denied his creative outlet.
>>24111539They should be
>>24111342How am I running damage control if I think the publishers are retarded and the books are trash too. I'm just not delusional thinking were missing out on new herman melvilles. Get real. Modern male writers are basically women anywayIts the same shit. Anyone with something to say writing quality work isn't going to be stopped by this practice anyway
>>24111227>we're opposed to DEI because it helps undeserving blacks get ahead>we're opposed to affirmative action for the same reason >but when we do DEI for whites, it's different because... it just is ok!!!!>and when we do affirmative action for whites, it's different because... it just is ok!!!! You people are not sending your best
>>24111762I want to have advantages in my own country, yes.You'd feel pretty pissed off if you were ten years old, and your parents gave all of your Christmas presents to the kids next door.
>>24110950>muh capitalismYou are the blackest, dumbest, gorilla golemYou need to learn what central banking is
>>24111762It is good to be pro-WhiteJews are pro-Jew, so Whites must be pro-White as a defence mechanismAnons remember the above whenever they try out their new gayop "woke right" tactic
>>24110950I'll never understand people who try to claim capitalism is somehow bad for artistic expression. Especially compared to communism. A simple examination of the artistic output of communist nations vs capitalistic ones reveals the sham.
>>24111927It's got it's downsides.People who are like "movies would be good under communism" are so confused it's hard to even reason with them though. How do they imagine a product, produced by an industry, supported heavily by the consumer electronics and computer industries would even exist in a world without capitalism?Things like movies (and video games, studio music, whatever) are the cream of capitalism. That's at least something you get, that can offer enjoyment, in spite of everything damaging and unfortunate about capitalism.
>>24111924>imagining that they're going to defeat people who have come to be comfortable being called Nazis, by calling them "woke"That's really all normies have as argumentation, isn't it?>"heh, you don't like bad thing? Well what if I call YOU bad thing??"As if the word itself is a curse, and people can't just brush off name-calling, and laugh in your face.They genuinely struggle with this. It's like it short circuits their brain.
It's genuinely really hard to find a book, tv show or movie made in the last decade that was made for a male audience except pornography
>>24111927The only way to survive in a capitalism without losing one’s head and sanity is either to be born to money , or adopt anarcho-syndicalist utopianism as a small group of artists and find ways to produce and generate wealth together without compromising the individual’s artistic creativity and values for the sake of the unattainable scheme of getting richer ad infinitum. Marxism and Blanquist philosophy (Bolshevism) were proven to not work on the State level/ national level, what I mean by that is smaller communities reciprocate better than bigger communities, especially when the persons involved in a small community share the same values and know each other personally, to some extent. >>24112044>Josip Broz Tito>Croatia>Yugoslavia
>>24112070Crazy how those communist countries all invented video cameras and sound recording devices, all on their own, without capitalism. Crazy how they also made movies people like and have heard of.
>>24112072What are you even on about? Read about Tito and Slovenia’s economic development.
>>24111924One’s obsession with jews turns one jewish, just like Zionists’ obsession with fascism turned them indistinguishable from fascists. White-skinned red-neck Euros and Brits from the Americas are niggers themselves because their obsession with turds turned them into turds themselves.
>>24112075Did they or did they not invent the video camera?
>>24112084But what if YOU were the bad thing? Didn't think of that, did you?
>>24110450>short-termComplete destruction of literature.>long-termRise of new fascist regimes worldwide. And I'm not talking about what anons think fascism is, i.e. Star Wars empire without starships or Cobra with swastikas. I'm talking about cruel, incompetent, authoritarian/totalitarian regimes that ruin everything for everyone. Think comic book version of V For Vendetta worldwide.
it's funny how all those changes and those videos and revelations happen a few weeks after the election
>>24110950You're correct but they don't want to hear it because they have their own agenda.Capitalism is inherently anti-culture. It seems pro-culture for a time, because it banks on culture to make a profit, but once it's made its profit, it doesn't return that money to the economy. It sits in corporate bank accounts, supporting future generations of nepo babies.Capitalists support diversity and immigration solely because this brings new cultures in that they can siphon every last dime from.The end result of all this isn't a prospering multicultural paradise full of opportunity and artistic endeavor, but a small class of nepo babies with beach houses in several countries while the rest of the species becomes trafficked into porn for their amusement.Every society has a God, and the God of capitalism is, obviously, capital. That means the end goal of it is nothing other than the accumulation of capital. It's not producing culture. It's not repopulating the tribe / community / nation.
>>24111032Gay take, here is a (You).>>24111921>You need to learn what central banking ishttps://www.pearson.com/en-us/subject-catalog/p/macroeconomics/P200000010516/9780138119010?tab=table-of-contentsI study on the literature written by the capitalist for the capitalist, not your conspiracy theory tier faggotry.Keep getting ass fucked by the central banking system all you want, no one will read your scifi novel anyway.>>24111927>A simple examination of the artistic output of communist nations vs capitalistic ones reveals the sham.Anon... Do you speak chinese, russian, (cuban) spanish, vietnamese?No? So you rely on the market to decide what is good or what is not?There is literally only one north korean novel published in english... How the fuck can you claim that the artistic output is bad when your access to north korean culture is one single book which was published by an academic institution, so you will for sure not find it in your local bookshop...>>24112044>Things like movies (and video games, studio music, whatever) are the cream of capitalism>Be me>Remember a really sweet soviet romcom I saw when I was a kid (The Girls)>Go to wikipedia page>It has three international awardsWhen the fuck did you see a romcom getting an international cinematographic award?Btw, it's extremely recommended, since it is the best romcom. Literally the enemies to lovers trope initiator.That said, see what I said to the anon above you.>>24112113>It sits in corporate bank accountsNot true. Money doesn't exist for the capitalist. It is all invested. I am not going to give you a lecture on corporate business, but you are right to think it is written in corporate bank accounts, but it is written as either "credit" or "debt", not as liquidity. This is why they always need more money: this is why trump is always selling merch, for example.>it banks on culture to make a profitIt banks on the culture that brings a profit. Rich fags who want the aesthetics publish books written for themselves. They do the same when they want to feel socially sensible, by giving niggers a platform.>Capitalists support diversity and immigration solely because this brings new cultures in that they can siphon every last dime from.Bullshit. They promote it because the niggers get paid less.>Every society has a God, and the God of capitalism is, obviously, capital. Based and truthpilled."The Invisible Hand will fix any problem, you just need to have faith in it", being the basis for capitalist thought, is literally religious thinking.
>>24112089Just because the collective says something’s bad ain’t making it bad per se. >>24112088Who invented what is completely irrelevant.
>>24110450What video?
>>24111866>I want to have advantages in my own country, yes.Like I said, DEI for white men. you people embarrass yourselves lmao
>>24113172>Actually if you're against DEI you need to import brownsSo this is the power of brown intelligence
>>24113238you have two options anon. your first option is bite the bullet and admit yes, you want DEI for white men, which would make you a hypocrite, but so what. your second option is to continue acting as if this isn't what you want, which would keep making you look like a retard. I think the second is more fun for me so I suggest the second
>>24113248Equivocation is not an argument
Gee, I dunno op.
>>24113257There's no argument happening anon. I'm telling you you're doing DEI for white men and you don't like that
>>24110614It already has.
>>24110832The indie scene is dominated by women and minorities (lgbt and similar).
>>24112084this line of reasoning is retarded and cope.
>>24112113we don't have capitalism we have debt though, the system is propped up by debt and effective debt slavery
What’s a sjw?
>>24112269You can't celebrate the products of a luxury consumer industry, while also pretending everything is better with communism.You can be a communist, but then you have to accept we would never have had Star Wars, The Godfather, and Nintendo. You literally don't get to have both. I don't know what people don't understand. Realistically, you aren't even really get most works of classical art, because all of that stuff was patronised by the rich. You get folk art, and stodgy government propaganda.
>>24112170Soviet film existing at all, still required Western industry to be there and invent things like the camera.
>>24113172I do want DEI for white men though. I just said that. I want benefits to me, and not for my rivals. This is normal.
>>24113564do you?I want dei as a concept removed for those not of my tribe then I want all possible support from my tribe directed towards skilled individuals of my tribe.other races can rely on their own tribe's support networks instead of parasitising off mine
>>24113590It's obvious we can't just have a level playing field anymore, because other groups will form power blocks to push against us. So yes, we have to get more active in helping white men to have opportunities. Not just throwing them to the wind like the Boomers did.
>>24113545Social Justice Warrior.
>>24113590>>24113606This should be pretty obvious. People who have been in this country for 50, 100, 200+ years are precisely and literally responsible for making this country as (ostensibly) great as it is currently. They paid into it in unimaginable ways, not to mention paid into it when America wasn't worth nearly as much.Even if all one's ancestors did is dig ditches for roads, it's plainly obvious that roads are foundational for business. Working on sewers is foundational. Serving up short orders for construction workers is foundational. It all matters. In a very non-trite way, if one thinks about it, we truly would not have our most profit-generating AI companies or whatever were it not for all this work.When the country is understood in this way the idea that some piece of shit paco/chang/akshit-come lately should be able to swoop in here with his whole village behind him and be given priority is absurd, disgusting, and most importantly of all, not sustainable. The internationalist owner class does not care, because they'll flee to any other cosmopolitan hub in the world. They can just change allegiance. Meanwhile the country has turned into another brown shithole, not least of all because retards can't distinguish between immigration and mass immigration.
>>24111684Didn’t know she was based. Maybe I’ll give Blonde a try.
>>24112044>computer industries would even exist in a world without capitalism?For what it’s worth, Mosfilm, the Soviet state film studio, has produced some timeless classics. Not as many as one would hope, and obviously built on the accomplishments and technology of other capitalist countries. But it’s surely possible.
>>24113671You must speak in terms of blood and labour because that is what we understand bestevery man of your tribe whose life was spent wrestling your society out of the chaos and squalor.Every tribesmen who died in a mineshaft or on the frontlines of a warfield, or spent their life on something more mundane but essential like fixing cookers.Every life spent is the price of your tribe.
>>24113671>When the country is understood in this way the idea that some piece of shit paco/chang/akshit-come lately should be able to swoop in here with his whole village behind him and be given prioritythere is not a single large-scale infrastructure project in america that was not built with immigrant labor, either all or in part lmao you're retarded. the immigrants do the work because whites are too lazy to take the needle out of their arm
>>24113726Yeah so by telling new immigrants to fuck off, we're full, we're doing justice to the descendents of those original immigrants. We're a fully formed country now and we don't need scam artists villages colonizing us, and forcing us into race tobthe bottom, sub optimal scam fest gameplay just to compete with their sleazy tribalism. Newcomers not needed. Go be an asset to your home country (lmao)
>>24113726why are the whites so desperate they hooked on drugs?Who made/sold the drugs?
>>24113726I'm simply beyond arguments, and I'm going to stick up for my own group no matter what.The alternative is this endless process of finding ways to blame white people for everything, while heaping credit on people who aren't white, just to justify dispossessing white people of rights, property, and privileges. I'm opting out of this game entirely. I'm simply going to stick up for my own side. I don't care what they may have "done", or what other people think they have "earned". We're so far past that kind of rhetoric.
>>24113754>using the retarded “America was built by immigrants” talking point as if shitskin subhuman social engineering cattle are anything like the white builders and settlers 99% of the immigrants that built America were WHITE EUROPEANS with the odd Chang being used as cheap labor for the railways.
>>24113754Sorry, meant the >>24113770 reply for >>24113726
>>24113770This
>>24113766There's something refreshing and new about this attitude that needs to be fostered and spread.
>>24114618Babbys are learning. To be spook free... imagine was gonna stirner post but i found this pic instead
>>24110450what gender is that
>>24110909>You people really do just want affirmative action for white menYes, but that's because white men genuinely do better at just about everything. Look at literature--Tolstoy, Dante, Goethe, Shakespeare. Where are the female Dostoyevskys, the nigger Chaucers? Even the best is all second-tier. Look at Los Angeles: white male leadership and the city grows into one of the major cities in the world. Stick a black woman mayor, put a trio of dykes in the fire department and a spic as water commissioner and the whole place burns down. Foster white men and things get better. Marginalize them and everything goes to shit.
>>24110909I'd prefer it didn't exist.
>>24111293>Blacks get affirmative action because they can't compete even after barriers were removed for them. They're either too racially inferior or their culture is too brutish and anti-intellectual, pick whatever explanation suits you.Why not both?>>Removing sexist and racist barriers against white men is not affirmative action. A level playing field would suit us just fine. Given a level playing field, we win. That's why those that are not us--jews, blacks, women--are doing everything they can to push us down. And that will work fine, till we get to the point where we kick in their teeth. Historically, we've done it many, many times, and we'll do it again, at which point we can concentrate on finer things, like space exploration and lyric poetry.
>>24112052>It's genuinely really hard to find a book, tv show or movie made in the last decade that was made for a male audience except pornographyPornography was created to destroy the male audience.
>>24112084Underrated post.
>>24113766>I'm simply going to stick up for my own side. I don't care what they may have "done", or what other people think they have "earned". We're so far past that kind of rhetoric.This. So much this.The question is: what does 'sticking up for my own side' mean, in practical terms?
>>24113754because their lives suck, most of the people in Ohio are on meth and mostly other whites make those (shake and bake in 2L soda bottles was what I saw all the time when I was there)
>>24113770>as if shitskin subhuman social engineering cattle are anything like the white builders and settlersyou can plan and calculate and draft and dream all the livelong day. eventually someone will have to go out in the desert and split a rock with a sledgehammer. that takes a lot of people who are willing to do backbreaking work far from home for a long time. WASPy whites thought they were too good for it and ridiculed the few whites that did, sometimes even saying they weren't white
>>24113548You clearly don’t now what “communism “ is , and probably think of soviet marxism and Blanquist philosophy when the word “communism” pops up in a discussion, I don’t like Marxism because of its extreme patriotism and Blanqui because of its elitism , I do , on the other hand, agree with Proudhon , Bakunin, Kropotkin and Ilyenkov.
>>24113248Is it DEI to want a fair wage? Were unions being chuddy when they complained about scabs?
>>24110450The consequences will be shitty fantasy and sci-fi books for probably decades, until all these terrible writers are dead or stopped writing because they weren't selling shit.>>24110464We don't want DEI. We want competition based on merit. Not my problem when the writers then are all white males. Sucks to suck
>>24110881It actually is relevant, but in support of what you said.
>>24111927It almost never reaches an audience because the career is a lie itself. Supported artificially only to suggest legitimacy. It's the same with any "entertainment". The passionate people stay paupers or lose their parents' fortune chasing success in a field of propaganda.
>>24110909Nope, just want DEI to be undone, power structures to be reset to their pre-AA state, and for everyone to be rewarded strictly by merit from there. The cream will rise on its own, without help.>>24111577>what the fuck is she even talking about?She's talking about how racism won't be solved until she's personally the CEO *and* majority shareholder of Penguin Random House.>>24111684Still a blasphemer. What we need are young men writing who are scornful of the concept of their own privilege being anything but a deserved product of their own superority.
>>24110450That Sanderson Mormon guy is the future of white male literature. I've never read his books, and dont plan to, but he has the business model of the future. >establish a fanbase >self publish everything >cut out the feminist kike publishers who serve only as middle men between you and readers The problem is when most self made authors strike gold they get picked up by those middlemen. They need to say "fuck off. I dont need your 5% royalties deal."
>>24114761It means when people say "you need to give me all of your stuff because colonialism or something", you say "no".
>>24114761>what does 'sticking up for my own side' mean, in practical terms?We're already seeing it with "go woke go broke." People are boycotting feminist, jewish, and LGBTQ movies, games, literature, and even websites like facebook. That's phase one. Phase two is openly supporting entertainment that is against these ideologies. That's been actively suppressed by cancel culture, but we can get around that by using cancel culture proof means of communication, like Tiktok or Chinese based apps. Once we get there the overton window will gape like an asshole after a huge shit.
>>24115172>zoomers think using TikTok is a revolutionary actIt's insanely funny how domesticated broccoliheads are.
>>24115178If zoomers get together to form unofficial small communities/associations and set their interests as the core values so to not inhibit individuality , while also encapsulating that core with rules so to set the tone— what content goes and what content does not go on TikTok— then they can actually control the platform even without having a piece of paper that gives them official ownership over it.
>>24110450Future readers will look back in wonder to the dawn of a new literary golden age.
>>24115594>>24115594>Future readerskek
>>24110464Basically everything good in this world came from white men. Asian men also created a few good works. Everyone else is completely and utterly useless.
>>24111199>most media targets women nowMost media targets women and blacks because marketing works incredibly well on them. They're perfect little consumerist zogbots.
>>24115063>We want competition based on meritWhites would never survive a pure meritocracy. every time someone tries to implement a pure meritocracy whites get blown the fuck out by browns and blacks and then the whites screech like tards about how there must be a grand conspiracy lmao. Try not doing heroin!
>>24110494Not a chud but DEI is quite real and the right has been bitching about it for decades it's just that this is the latest buzzword for it.
>>24111754>Modern male writers are basically women anyway/thread
there are so many of these
just one more for now but there are a dozen+
>>24110464>You peopleI didn't care desu but your post makes me think we need sensitivity training like...>not all white men are the same, treating one as if they speak for all is exclusionary>living white people aren't responsible for all of history>individual men in your social sphere aren't responsible for the crimes of men from your past>women strongly outcompete men in education today to the detriment of all of society>men die in the workplace at some astronomically large multiplier, like 7x more likely to die in the workplace or some shit like thatI'm currently reading Maggie Nelson's Like Love and she mentions how when she was navigating publishing in New York it was controlled mostly by women.This is an anonymous image board, there isn't a particular cohesive demographic you're talking to. Like it's weird to address "the people of 4chan". It makes you look stupid
>>24113548>You can't have both Star Wars and communism.Why not? Arguably there would be a proliferation of creative output for the sake of creative output rather than for the sake of profitable consumerism.Star Wars is a good example because the new Star Wars is dog shit and has been ruined by the capitalist pillar of society that is Disney.Film is being ruined because capital firms are skeptical to invest in new and innovative films since the sequel churning model is reliably profitable. Capital is actually stifling possibilities. New and interesting worlds and fantasies can't emerge because capital sees these kinds of films as too risky so there are many artists who aren't getting chances who might in a different economic system. Basically the opposite of what you're saying is much more arguable if you would learn a little about film as an art form and as an industry. You're just fetishizing the world you're in and making claims about a world that's never been as if you have knowledge of what that would be like which is bizarre. Brazen, even.>because all of that stuff was patronized by the richYou mean wealth was shared with the public for the sake of creating artworks? I don't know homie sounds kind of communist. Classical artwork was being made prior to capitalist theory so I don't know what you're on about here really it's a bizarre argument.Your tweet length BTFO got 'em sentence structure is relying on a lot of implied argumentation and is a symptom of chronic internet usage and low level, functional literacy. >You get folk art, and stodgy government propagandaResidual ideology from red scare propaganda. As if things like American Sniper and Lone Survivor aren't stodgy propaganda. We have that shit in the U.S.
>>24116008Brother I don't know what world you think you live under but we sure as hell do not live under capitalism
>>24115968>This is an anonymous image board, there isn't a particular cohesive demographic you're talking toI'm talking to the people who use /lit/. You people
>>24115160Sanderson already sold out and threw his male/conservative readers under the bus by pandering to the LGBT lobby
>>24116008Because you literally would not have a film industry or any of the pre-requisites, if people hadn't been manufacturing consumer products for a profit, anon. The video camera, colour film, and professional recording equipment(to name a few things) doesn't just blink into existence in the mid-20th century.Yes, there may have been a handful of good Soviet films, but they still relied on the fact that there was a capitalist market to copy and take influence from.
>>24116186concerning
>>24113514Why do you think we have debt?
>>24115922Sup I'm Irish, we're the niggers of the UK.
>>24116198Nta but this is shit argument.You just think capitalism made all this awesome shit because it's real now but who's to say some other ideology wouldn't have enabled the same if not better outcomes.
>>24116585It was all explicitly made to generate a profit.
