I do not care for Dostoevsky
Frankly, most 19th century novels blow. Too long, too much Christian moralising, too melodramatic
>>24110915Me neither for the most part
>>24110915fine, but it matters why
>>24111005*Dips Fedora
>>24111034>trad LARPing has gotten so bad on this board that even slightly criticizing the glorified soap opera novels of the 19th century is too fedora
I do. A lot. He's like a prophet. Perhaps was one. Some excerpts about science on "Demons" fit like a glove to what mainstream "science" and the sciencechuds said during the pandemics. Also his take on what nihilism, materialism and socialist ideals would bring to Russia were a spot on. Not to mention that he was also right in Brothers Karamazov that after all Russia would still rely on the orthodox church. That said, it's XIX century prose. Not for every palate. Houellebecq is pretty good, also writes about his current times affairs keeping the universal aspect, and creates characters that you can identify with but in a much more simple, less dense, way. Not that I put the latter on the same level of the former.
>>24110915but he has 3 of lits top 10 books
>>24111034Internet trad Caths and Orthodox are worse than literal furries. Maybe equivalent to like a furry that's also a cuck. Like their fursona is a golden retriever who likes watching pit bulls hit it.
>>24110915If you are alluding to Dostoevsky’s worst novels, then, indeed, I dislike intensely The Brothers Karamazov and the ghastly Crime and Punishment rigamarole. No, I do not object to soul-searching and self-revelation, but in those books the soul, and the sins, and the sentimentality, and the journalese, hardly warrant the tedious and muddled search. Dostoyevsky’s lack of taste, his monotonous dealings with persons suffering with pre-Freudian complexes, the way he has of wallowing in the tragic misadventures of human dignity – all this is difficult to admire. I do not like this trick his characters have of ”sinning their way to Jesus” or, as a Russian author, Ivan Bunin, put it more bluntly, ”spilling Jesus all over the place." Crime and Punishment’s plot did not seem as incredibly banal in 1866 when the book was written as it does now when noble prostitutes are apt to be received a little cynically by experienced readers. Dostoyevsky never really got over the influence which the European mystery novel and the sentimental novel made upon him. The sentimental influence implied that kind of conflict he liked—placing virtuous people in pathetic situations and then extracting from these situations the last ounce of pathos. Non-Russian readers do not realize two things: that not all Russians love Dostoevsky as much as Americans do, and that most of those Russians who do, venerate him as a mystic and not as an artist. He was a prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. I admit that some of his scenes, some of his tremendous farcical rows are extraordinarily amusing. But his sensitive murderers and soulful prostitutes are not to be endured for one moment—by this reader anyway. Dostoyevsky seems to have been chosen by the destiny of Russian letters to become Russia’s greatest playwright, but he took the wrong turning and wrote novels.
>>24110915here's my opinion on what I've read of himNotes From Underground = goodCrime and Punishment = really goodDemons = boringBrothers Karamazov = better than Demons but still boring
>>24111160tyfys
>>24111292Gambler - goodWhite Nights etc - goodC&P - very goodThe Idiot - OKDemons - boring
>>24111090Predicting that Russia would always be a shithole isn’t exactly Nostradamus tier
>>24111324damn, Idiot and Demons are the best. better than BK, far better than C&P
>>24111101i know you're joking but can we take this opportunity to reflect on how absolute shit that list is
>>24111395Kek.>>24111404Idiot is my favourite by far. Demons the second. Then Karamazov as I have mixed feelings about it. Less into the plot and more into some of the Zossima's and Aliocha's takes. But if you're into prince Michkin you'd be into Aliocha as well.
>>24111431I actually have major problems with Alyosha that I don't with Myshkin, ofc mostly due to how they get to exist in their respective narratives. I wish D had the chance to finish the cycle, because the ending of BK still makes me angry. I have been meaning to reread it again, because I really think Demons alone is enough to stake Dostoevsky's place in the forever canon. Idiot is a perfect work of art, though it has less of Demons' fire
Don't worry; we should all Dostop Doscussing Dostoevsky as a great author.
>>24111105Kek based
