Okay, so what we have here is that Jesuit boarding school sucks, priests are assholes, and god is a tyrant who ought to be rejected even and especially in the case that the damnation described is real, and for exactly that reason. Got it.
Okay, so what we have here is a plotfag.
>>24112122There aren't any meaningful innovations in style or narrative flow, so what's left is the plot. Narrative voice becomes more sophisticated as the character grows whoop-dee-doo, Stephen imagines some visions of hell himself which is actually a feint out of the suggested retreat (and is pure prose, not actual dialogue) before the priest's actual dialogue begins, and so on whoop-dee-doo.
>>24112115Big issue is he doesn't focus on the hot priest on kid sex that all Irish boys got to enjoy.
>>24112137>Narrative voice becomes more sophisticated as the character grows whoop-dee-doo,And what changes because of that? Hint, its not plot.
>>24112162It doesn't matter which detail you have in mind.
>>24112166>it doesn't matter if I completely missed the point, I am still rightlol.
>>24112168I didn't miss any point worth caring about. And yes, I'm still right. I've understood the book completely.
>>24112122As if that book has anything else to offer.
>>24112189Then you should be able to answer my question. >>24112190It has plenty to offer beyond plot. samefag
>>24112115Read the first line and put it down, can stomach self obsessed (((“modernists”)))
>>24112199Happily, I can indicate that there is some other distinct person or bot which is slightly agreeable. It's already been made clear twice that your opinion is unimportant. Are you stupid?
>>24112210>he took a screenshotlol.
>>24112115Modern literature was dominated by a tone of elegy from the twenties to the fifties, the atmosphere of Eliot in The Waste Land and that of Joyce in A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. Sensibility absorbed this sadness, this view of the artist as the only contemporary link with an age of gold, forced to watch the sewage flowing in the Thames, every aspect of modern civilization doing violence to his (artist-patrician) feelings. This went much farther than it should have been allowed to go. It descended to absurdities, of which I think we have had enough.
>>24112115>and especially in the case that the damnation described is real, and for exactly that reason.Sounds based. I will never bow to a space jew. He can throw me in his space gulag all he wants. I prefer eternal damnation over slavery to a cosmic tyrant jew.
>>24112115People who make a show of how much they reject religion or their nation aren't annoying because they do those things but because they make such a huge show of those things.
>>24114187>make such a huge show of those thingsTheir rejection, I meant to say.
>>24112209>Joyce was JewishDo you check under your bed for kikes every night?
>>24112272Based Luciferian. non serviam.
>>24112115I didn't even focus so much on this when I read it. To me the entire religious experience prepared him for the epiphany that is becoming an artist. Just like with the Gospel you have to reject the world, when he became an artist he had to reject the world he grew up with to create a world of his own.
>>24112137>so what's left is the plotReally? Not the symbolism? Not the character study (as indicated by the fucking title?) Not the emotional resonance? Not the insights into Irish society and family life?So the novel flew about a mile over your head. Got it.
