What can I read in order to understand female friendships and female bonds in general? I realize how ironic it is to ask this question here, but every other place is more likely to buy into the ''epic girls holding hands while the world burns in front of them'' cliché than face the music. I'm asking about this topic because I knew this one girl in school who was ostracized by other chicks in her social circles and felt deeply isolated because of it, despite her being rather sharp and kind, which led to her talking about the cruelty of the female kind at length. My own mother has always been kind of a loner too, rarely ever going out of her way to see other women that aren't her relatives, and not shying away from commenting on how disingenuous she finds them to be. We all know the common saying of women always secretely hating each other, but it'd be rather sad to know that they are truly unable to have actual full friendships with their kind without having a shared traumatic experience for example. Things aren't that extreme nor reductive, of course, but they do make me question the nature of their dynamics. Maybe it's just a byproduct (or a natural predisposition) of the traditional married life that eventually keeps them isolated and occupied inside their homes for most of their lives.
Women still have friendships and community life in traditional marriage. They aren’t literally in the home all day.
>>24119357Obviously. I was unfairly trying to compare it to how a dude would drive for a good few miles just so he could shoot the shit with his friends and talk about nothing of real note without worrying about it, and feeling like a lot of the girls I know seem to either tolerate each other at best or use their besties as enablers/validation boards. It's my fault for lending an ear to gossip at work anyway, it fuels that kind of thinking, even if I also realize that it's typically expected to notice something like that out of immature college graduates so drawing generalizations out of that isn't exactly the wisest thing to do.
>>24119350>I'm asking about this topic because I knew this one girl in school who was ostracized by other chicksWhat did she do? I've noticed that exceptionally beautiful women often find other women to be hostile to them because of jealously.
>>24119379She legitimately was on the spectrum, or hovered close to it. Was interested in nerdy topics ; was blunt and not afraid to call people out when they did something wrong, which i've come to learn is a delicate thing when it comes to dealing with women ; did not know how to hold a conversation with a stranger about their mundanities ; and so on. However it is true that she was beautiful, so you may be right on the money with your observation.
>>24119411Women are very sensitive to embarrassment and humiliation so if she’s calling them out in public that would be enough.
>>24119350Alice Munro
>>24119452What? No.
>>24119378There are two tiers to female friendship. The gossip level is just a kind of general social upkeep, but they have a level of fewer deeper friends. Secondly you’re trying to overgeneralise. “Women do this, women do that” this is classic clueless male thinking that you have to break - have some actual deep friendships with women and just relate to that. Women aren’t like some machine that you analyse. Because this is a book thread, read Models by Mark Manson
>>24119350I don't have any good recs but just wanted to say that I do resonate with that as a woman and have failed making friends with other women or having any sort of platonic relationship but I'm a loner in general tbf. My mom is the same and I don't think it means women are evil, it's just that some people fall short on what comes so easily to others which is a very isolating experience
>>24119479As far as self help slop goes, Models is pretty good
My Brilliant Friend
>>24119350Madoka
>>24119411If she were a man, you'd be laughing at her and calling her an autist.
>>24119454por que?
>>24119350Nothing. Watch K-On instead.
>>24119350My Year of Rest and Relaxation. Very realistic toxic female friendship.
>>24119350I’ve never seen men have a relationship like two female best friends. A lot of girls will grow up with an extremely close best friend where you have so much shared experience and are so close that you sort of merge into the same person. Obviously not a universal experience but a lot of women have a Best Friend Breakup story is felt as more intense and traumatic than their romantic breakups.But maybe men have similar relationships idk
Cat's Eye by Atwood.
>>24119350They’re like male friendships but more frivolous and superficial and with homoerotic undertones.
>>24119350>OP wants to learn about female friendships because he saw some females bullying each other.I must say that you will never be a woman, anon.
>>24119841>But maybe men have similar relationships idkObviously they do, a close friendship is a close friendship, the sex is inconsequential.
>>24119411I'm sure you have met some dudes who were a bit autistic, and though nothing they did was really wrong and they even tried their best to be kind, something about the way they carried themselves just made people instinctively hate them. Surely women can be like that too, but maybe you as a guy don't notice it just because your monkey ego locks differently with the other sex.
>>24119495Post tits
>>24119998was not expecting to see some lola dupre artwork posted on this board
>>24119350Didn't read your blogpost, but sex and character tells you everything you need to know about women
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