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Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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>>24681926

>Thread Question:
Say one positive about a book/series you dislike and one negative about a book/series you enjoy.
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>>24690786
malazan is reddit
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Paitently waiting for anon to read Marrow.
Patiently waiting for other-anon to read another else in Ursia, perhaps the Mage Hunter series.
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>>24690786
Victra best girl
>TQ
I thought The King of Elfland's Daughter was boring but Dunsany balances whimsy and tragedy better than anyone.
Sun Eater's side characters are mostly just serviceable.
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I just finished the Murderbot Diaries. They were pretty good.
But Martha Wells has like four other book series, all fantasy. Are any of them any good? Which one should I start with?
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>>24690432
Correct. Good eye
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>>24691134
Stop reading books by women.
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>>24691120
Based Victrafag. I guess Pierce Brown is a liar as we got past August with no updates on Red God or whatever he's working on.
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>>24691178
I only read books by women. I love romantasy and scifi with pronouns. That's why I post on /sffg/
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>>24691244
No, anon, stop, his masculinity depends on your reading choices.
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>character has a close friend who suddenly grows distant
>character knows something is wrong
>"i'll mend things once i'm done with [plot]"
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>>24691254
Name 20
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>>24691266
I've been checking out this general's favorite YA series, currnetly on Golden Son and it's got this plot going on with the gold poet guy
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>>24691308
Roque au Fagii. Are you enjoying it anon?
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>>24691320
it's nice.
I like the ideas more than the narrative. Wish i lived in a biodeterminist caste-based interplanetary empire.
But it usually feels like the plot "just happens" instead of being something the story builds towards, or the natural results of the characters' actions.
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>>24691213
The update was about the hazard bedlam thing, which is a lorn prequel. More info on that in the next phase of the "game" this month.
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>>24691364
He needs to stop this gacha shit and finish red god. I’ll iron rain his fucking house if he does a gurm and gets distracted by constant side projects.
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>>24691364
>Lorn prequel
Who asked for this? He gets glazed so much in the series that I've lost all interest in him.
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>>24690911
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The golden age of scifi sucks.
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>>24691416
I didn't ask for Lorn in particular but a prequel about pre-Rising era Golds being cunts to each other while pretending to be honorable knights is exactly what I wanted.
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why in the HELL did I binge buy all of these star wars prequel novels???
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>>24691516
because old star wars is comfy and kino
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>>24691516
Why not, most of the prequel novels are pretty good.
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>>24691451
That would be good but I don't have faith PB will portray Lorn as anyting but a Gary Sue.
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>>24691682
Wasn't he always?
>most famous and feared space ninja knight
>has a griffon and a space castle
>one of the few honorable golds darrow meets
>has a famous bloodline with skilled descendants including someone who MUST die
etc but I sitll like him as a character. I'd rather that than a story of how Silenius started the society
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>>24691544
>>24691634
checked. yes so I bought Plagueis and really enjoyed it and then said fuck it and went on a spree to then buy the prequel movie novelizations (the third of which I am reading now and isn't bad but not as good as others have claimed - Stover is a bit too cheesy with his writing) ; bought some Bane novels ; a Maul novel ; the Ep III Grevious prequel novel ; among others. I'm burned out
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>>24691756
the Darth Bane trilogy and the revenge of the Sith novel are the best of what you listed. Read those before you burn yourself out.
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>>24691682
>>24691745
Lorn is still a traditionalist Gold who would have turned on Darrow if he knew he was a red or wanted to abolish the hierarchy. I think there's plenty room for flaws in a character like that who preaches honor but turns his head at cruelty like that.
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>>24691771
I think he would've been like Romulus. Political differences with Darrow and would've killed him if he could, but recognised the rot of the society and wouldn't mind a good culling at the top. Probably would've done it himself if he wasn't sad about his sons
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I've been reading Gibson's The Bridge series, it's not so bad. They're no where near as the highs of neuromancer, but the writing is still fun.
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I can't be the only one who cares about gold society in red rising more than the actual plot at this point. Honestly, he should just go all the way back to the conquering, and follow some of the first golds (or the preceding scientists and philosophers) before the first war. At this point the RR universe has just become another milquetoast scifi series (with boring supernatural stuff like the main antagonist that doesn't even belong in the story)
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I read Haïta the Shepherd on a whim. I've actually read some other Hastur stories years ago but I forgot pretty much everything so this was a nice way of going to the beginning again, especially since I'd missed this short story for some reason. I did enjoy the quasi-parable quality, but somehow I kept expecting the maiden to be someone/something more sinister, not Happiness. It's not even that I had what Cthulhu mythos at the back of my mind, she just felt kind of scary (which might be rather fitting if we were to start philosophising).
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>>24692024
>(with boring supernatural stuff like the main antagonist that doesn't even belong in the story)
Minds Eye is not supernatural.
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>>24692086
i don't even remember the in-universe explanation, it's not some new stage of human evolution right? It's literally just meditation speeding up his mind to godly levels, that the Sovereign didn't have?
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>>24691134
City of Bones is great
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Instead of making himself king, Conan sets up a democratic society like an American Revolution. Has anyone written that?
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>>24692206
Democracy is lame as hell, i never want to see it in fantasy and i'm disappointed to see it in sci-fi
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>>24692226
NTA but based. If democracy appears in SF it should be dystopian. It shouldn't be in fantasy unless it manifests as Athenian / magna-carta English aristocratic oligarchy
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I need dwarf, hobbit, and gnome oriented novels please. As many as possible.

I've already read that dwarf series by the German guy (it isn't that good)
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>>24692121
Afaik the Mind's Eye and Breath of Stone are just Dune-like psychic techniques I wish more space opera included honest to God supernatural elements
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>>24692267
Breath of Stone isn't even a power or anything it's just the chuuni name Darrow gave to his dual welding style.
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>>24692288
>isn't even a power
Allegedly the Mind's Eye isn't either. As I remember they're described similarly, being feats of mental focus rather than magic
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>>24692267
>just a psychic technique
well... you would think this kind of shit would get out, or be used to a devastating effect against the rebellion. I get them not using it before Darrow showed up because they didn't really need it, but now that the Golds are facing extinction there's no reason not to just go ham
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>>24692206
Why the fuck would someone like Conan create a democracy? Especially one where he shares power with civilized men? The whole point of those stories is that his wild side is always and will always be the better path.
>>24692267
It's not psychic at all. It's just meditation that may or may be enhanced by the Gold's genetically superior minds. The Sovereign (Octavia) did have it and it's a secret passed down in their line. That said, I do agree that it only barely fits in the series. Meditative-like sword/combat forms aren't uncommon in the genre, but Brown's attempt with the Mind's Eye was poorly implemented IMO. Breath of Stone was only a little better and I think that's because we got to see the process as it formed instead of Lysander's "oh and by the way I can enter a state that lets me notice literally everything in an instant with no preparation"
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bros i had a dream that i was in love, woke up alone. fug... what books for this feel
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Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser 0.0001 seconds after killing some randos at the same time in Lankhmar.
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>>24692386
me on the left
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>>24692357
Politics are gay, noted.
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conan is an enlightened centrist
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>>24692372
Clark Ashton Smith, "A Night in Malneant" and "The Holiness of Azedarac"
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>>24691134
I, too, bought the humble bundle.

Murderbot is surprisingly good for a woman author. Still, the absolute best of them is like a solid B, while there are As and A+s in the male space.
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book recs that features cute genie/djinn girl(s) as part of the main cast?
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>>24692904
go read some fanfic or something you loser
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in the 1990's author Walter Kirn went into a convenience store in Montana and saw some young dork dressed like a wizard trying to sell customers copies of his self published fantasy book. Kirn thought the costume and desperation was cringe and declined to buy a copy. Another author happened to come into the store though, Carl Hiaasen. He bought one for his child to read on their road trip. The kid went the whole drive without making a peep, totally engrossed in the book. Hiaasen decided to take a look at it too, and eventually passed it onto his publisher. The kid dressed like Merlin was Christopher Paolini and the self printed book he was hawking was Eragon, went on to sell 41 million copies.

2:01:30 mark
https://youtu.be/BEcloLz3ICc?t=7290
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>>24692996
it any good?
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>>24693022
Just started it, yeah it's definitely well written
https://tokybook.com/post/eragon-fd63cf
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I never see anyone talk about Apollonius. Gotta be my favorite character, though I'm still very early in Lightbringer
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>>24693072
He's alright but loses all his teeth after Iron Gold. Felt like PB knew he fucked up making Darrow do something as retarded as breaking out a notorious war criminal so he relegated Apollonius to be Darrows wacky rival.
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>>24693022
I read up to Brisingr when I was in middle school. It was good, but I got kind of bored at Brisingr. Eragon was the best IMO. But It has been so many years now.
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>>24693089
I like how wacky he is. It is one of the most retarded things Darrow did, but it gave us a character that is truly unique in this universe, unique in a way that agrees with me.
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>>24693095
Don't reread it. Keep it perfect in your memories.
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Just finished Light Bringer and indeed came independently to the conclusion that Lysander MUST die.
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>>24693072
I enjoy him but I hated how he was introduced. I was so confused when I was reading Iron Gold because the book acts like we know him and his history with Darrow when he was never in the previous books, only mentioned as a brother of Tactus. I remember reading it thinking have I missed something.

>>24693107
Based and now you join the long wait for Red God. Hopefully not long though.
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>>24692996
Carl Hiaasen is a champ. Hoot was great, had a copy of Flush long time ago.
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>>24693022
I loved that shit when I was 11, but I can't imagine reading it as an adult.
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>>24691134
>I just finished the Murderbot Diaries. They were pretty good.
I kept being amazed how taking the writing just a bit further would've taken it into full cringe territory. Author knew when to stop for the most part.
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>>24693226
There's a bit of dialogue in the second book about how "normal" Tactus is compared to his insane brothers. I guess that is the character development
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brent weeks was once one of the biggest fantasy writers
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>>24693072
Apollonius deserves to rule the Core Golds. While Mustang and Darrow were trying to make the Republic work, he studied the blade.
>>24693089
>>24693096
I like that he plays politics as well as anyone but is mainly driven by his private ambitions, like dueling Darrow.
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>>24692996
There's no way that story is real
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>>24694140
It isn't because we've known since the start that he had his parents publish the book for him.
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>>24694061
Private ambitions also include wanting to fuck Darrow
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>>24694140
even if it's not literally true it's still spiritually true
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cv659HLRUg

SHE

NEVER

MISSES
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>>24694159
the virgin grrm "uhh everything is heckin morally grey" vs the chad tolkien "objective evil exists and is actually really easy to spot"
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>>24694159
>literaturelets think the lord of the rings is "old literature"
>>24694221
You have never read a work of literature written pre 1900
If you did you'd know that gray morality was a feature of the trad literature you pretend you love so much
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>>24694150
>had his parents publish the book for him
That actually confirms the story, his family run a small self publishing business. Back then especially "self publishing" businesses just printed your shit out and stapled the pages together.
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>>24694221
oh wow this is only the bajillionth time I've heard this very "based" take, well spotted anon



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