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Best (web) novel out there
Read it

>>24776637
The new translations suck

>>24776641
the old translations suck more

>write 100k words
>get bored of my story and want to write a different one
is it an endless cycle?

>>24776655
new car smell always goes away
so find one you're willing to drive into the dirt

>>24776655
God of Literature telling you to just end your stories at normal book length.
It's okay man, not everything has to be 1.6 million words of bugfucking slop.

>>24776655
Upload it, then let engagement serve as further motivation (or not).

>>24776656
So I need to come up with an idea that is like a 1992 honda civic crx with 800,000 miles. Got it.

>>24776657
I wrote 100k and I barely consider it past the intro. The bugslop high wordcount is too engrained into me. If I ever finish a story it will push a million words at least.

>>24776662
I might do this. I think it might help give me motivation to see if even a few others like it.

>>24776657
You are incompetent. Instead of being aware of your incompetency and working towards improvement you give bad advice wanting to see others fail.

/wng/ discord. Only join if you're an actual publishing/published author, please (or don't join at all).

https://discord.gg/G4Mbzfxj

>>24776666
Nice quads but I'm wrapping up my fourth book since I started writing this year and getting ready to outline a fifth for writathon in a couple weeks.
We are not the same.
Advising people to finish a story in a normal book length is perfectly cromulent.

>>24776673
the only appealing part of 4chan is the anonymity
if i wanted a small chatroom with names attached I would put in the legwork and find a writing circle with people working in a similar niche as me

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>>24776673

>>24776677
>cromulent
this nigga zesty as hell

>>24776677
>Advising people to finish a story in a normal book length is perfectly cromulent.
it kinda isn't, not in the web novel thread. it's cromulent advice for /wg/. there's maybe a few serials total that are under 100k, like that satire rock one and I think some of the older OG non-rr stuff. as far as generalized advice goes it's basically deliberate sabotage to suggest ending a serial in 100k

>>24776686
Aw fuck, I shouldn't have said "people" I should have said "people who get bored of writing a story after normal book length."
That's on me.

>as far as generalized advice goes it's basically deliberate sabotage to suggest ending a serial in 100k
I'm not sure about this. Especially for something that fails to really take off. Obviously for something like Archmage, yeah, ride that into the dirt. But something smaller? I'd prefer a solid ending rather than the author just leaving it on hiatus while they chase RS with ten more story ideas in succession.

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>/wng/fags were having meltys because of the discord cabal of the evofags
>Now they're making their own discord cabal to shill and spam here
It is so tiresome

>>24776689
>I'd prefer a solid ending rather than the author just leaving it on hiatus while they chase RS with ten more story ideas in succession.
I'd recommend doing this too because it builds reader confidence in an author. And imo, it helps to not demoralize authors. Have seen too many authors just put their serial on hiatus once it doesn't hit off and just never write anything again.

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>>24776691
The only melty I had over X girl evolution stories was in my pants.

>>24776689
>I'm not sure about this
How are you not sure about it? It's vanishingly rare for a serial to be that short. There are almost no examples of success cases sub-100k. There are certainly no big success cases--even the ones I'm thinking about are very small on a grand scale
>I would prefer
Not how advice works; we're talking about what readers in the general sense want, not you in some abstract hypothetical scenario where it's 'a satisfying ending' or 'drag it out'

Anon doesn't need other people to tell him to follow his heart and not care about readers. Asking about this meta element of wordcount clearly shows he's approaching his writing with an eye for what readers want. So telling him that it's fine to end his serials at 100k is, again, deliberate sabotage

>>24776677
Aren't you that guy who exclusively writes goon slop?

>>24776698
>There are almost no examples of success cases sub-100k.
the successful ones succeed before they get to 100k words though

Why is there endless fighting here? Is this just a dick measuring contest?

>>24776706
/wg/ tards don't read

that extends to thread titles

>>24776707
>/wg/ tards don't read
Nor do they write, which is why they keep on posting here, because they killed their general.

>>24776704
But they're structured as long web serials, as is demonstrated by them going on to be millions of words long. They're not structurally suited to being a 100k standalone. Even if you slap a 'completed' label on the end of the intro arc, it would quite obviously be an abandoned project
100k web serials do not worry in almost all cases. Readers WANT that sense of 'this is going to go on and on'. Wrapping it up early will still have readers viewing you as an author who abandons their projects
Pretty sure Thundamoo got flak for doing some shit like that. And hers was after way more than 100k, it was just obviously ended early

>>24776702
No but I'm flattered.

>>24776698
You have a point but what's better for anon: write a 100k intro to a serial and drop it, creating an anti-fanbase of abused readers, or just writing an end to the story before moving on and building a solid back catalog of work?

Dickens' Hard Times was about 110k words and it was serialized.
Granted lots of other serials from back in the day were like 3x as long as that. But Tale of Two Cities was 140k words, and Great Expectations was 180k.

Damn for once we actually need the stats guy to go in and check the top 10% most popular completed fictions and their average word count.

>>24776712
>Wrapping it up early will still have readers viewing you as an author who abandons their projects
Only if it's obvious the story was wrapped up early and failed to deliver on its premise and themes and what was promised in the beginning. But it's not particularly much work to go back and decide which of chekovs guns simply aren't going to fire, write them out to build aura for a final battle/conflict, and then resolve the tension that's built up.
And, anyway, who cares if it looks bad? I think it's better to give readers an ending rather than leave it on hiatus, because guess what? RR is supportive of rewrites. You can just write it again if you feel like it.

>>24776712
nobody can tell shit about shit

the reality is that a story may never reach 100k words and still succeed

>>24776713
>write a 100k intro to a serial and drop it, creating an anti-fanbase of abused readers, or just writing an end to the story
if it's a proper serial structured like what readers want, then these are the same thing, just with a tiny bit more polish. putting lipstick on a pig. a proper serial promises that it's going to go on forever. most book 1s are just a glorified intro arc. readers will view it as an abandoned project either way
>>24776719
>But it's not particularly much work to go back and decide which of chekovs guns simply aren't going to fire, write them out to build aura for a final battle/conflict, and then resolve the tension that's built up.
this is maybe a more aggressive response than necessary: but you don't read web serials lol

like how the fuck would worm, primal hunter, wandering inn, etc wrap up in 100k words? and be a standalone story? if that's remotely possible you had a really unmarketable serial on your hands

>>24776725
I'm actively following about ten and have finished maybe five long ones.
It's okay that YOU like long million word slops, but that doesn't mean everyone is like you, anon. This is first grade stuff.
>a proper serial promises that it's going to go on forever
Unless you feel like expanding on what a "proper serial" is you're just making a no true scotsman fallacy and you're going to move the goalposts while never conceding anything. A complete waste of everyone's time.

>>24776728
>like how the fuck would worm, primal hunter, wandering inn, etc wrap up in 100k words?
Why do you think every serial should be worm, primal hunter, or wandering inn?

>>24776734
okay so name one of those serials you read that could have chosen to satisfyingly wrap up their story at the 100k mark and feel like a completed story, rather than an obviously abandoned project.

>>24776737
we're talking about what gets readers. if you want to do whatever the fuck you want then do whatever the fuck you want
this is so obvious to me that im taking psychic damage interacting with you two. maybe i should just log off

>>24776739
readers get got long before anything gets to 100k

>>24776698
>There are almost no examples of success cases sub-100k.
To be frank, all serials on royal road have to be successes within the first ten chapters. Because otherwise they don't hit rs.

>>24776738
nta but mine, just grinding away on its big beautiful backlog.

>>24776742
but the stories are structured to go on much longer than that. and ending it at 100k will give your pen name a bad reputation
please keep up, I've already said both of those things. stop spamming the same line at me

>>24776738
I'll pick two that have been on hiatus for 2 and 7 months respectively: Foxfire Esq and Advent of Sorcery. The first wrapped up on book 1, and writing was supposed to start right away for book 2. Clearly that didn't happen. BUT the story wrapped up a complete narrative arc, and there's stuff dangling, certainly, but at least the ending is satisfying enough that I don't mind waiting for a second volume.
The latter ends on a cliff, not a huge one, but there a lot of outstanding conflicts, none of which have been resolved, and if the writer had committed to just writing an ending and calling it volume one, it would have been much better.
The rest of what I'm reading the authors didn't get bored at 100k and abandon the story, which is what I'm advising against doing.

This is my last reply to you, by the way, since instead of addressing what a "proper serial" is, you decided to challenge me again, which is deflection. I'm considering you a troll, and accept your concession. Have a good night.

>>24776751
haven't read so I guess I'll have to take your word for it. no serial I've read would at all feel satisfying as a standalone book
why would I address what a proper serial is? you just want to debatelord me on the criteria or phrasing I pick?
trust me, the feeling of being trolled is mutual

>>24776748
You're not making an actual point
>I think readers won't invest in anything less than million word slop
>I also think readers attach to a story less than 100k words in
>I also simultaneously think that abandoning a story will turn readers off, and also that writing a proper ending for a story at 100k will damage a pen name
Pick a lane dude. Just post your advice and move on.

>>24776756
>You're not making an actual point
it's not my fault you can't read and understand a simple discussion

>>24776748
yeah but serials still get popular before they get to 100k

>>24776765
and?

>>24776748
If the fiction isn't a success, continue it. If it's not a success just end it.

Readers are getting sick of authors constantly dropping their fics.

>>24776748
>and ending it at 100k will give your pen name a bad reputation
{citation needed]

>>24776773
citation very much not needed.

>>24776775
But where's the proof?

Troll spotting tip:
>refuses to clarify position
>refuses to concede any point
>makes inflammatory statements designed to do nothing but get more posts

HP Lovecraft only wrote a total of 470,973 words across his 60-odd stories. Why is his cultural influence so strong if he wasn't shitting out serials?

>>24776776
In the pudding.

The crux of the debate between you two is really whether you should hiatus or write a premature ending for an non-hit, other points are not relevant.
Obviously two bad outcomes but which is worse for the reputation of your pen name?

>>24776794
This is /wng/, discussion of what's good or bad practice only matters in the context of web novel sites like Royal Road.

>>24776801
Webnovels still belong to the literary arts. It doesn't matter if it's distributed differently.

>>24776655
how do you write 100K words FACT

>>24776666
It's fine advice unless anon is a neet trying to make a living off of patreonbux in whcih case he should just ape primal hunter and write 9999 chapters of fighting and levelups

>>24776810
>writing for money
It is a trap. You can make money doing anything else.

>>24776813
I can't

>>24776805
The distribution is the entire point and it goes both ways. For someone trad publishing most of the good advice for wns turns into bad advice except for very basic "show don't tell" type stuff.

>>24776814
I have severe anxiety and maybe even something serious like paranoid schizophrenia, but I still worked normie jobs. Writing is sacred to me and should be for you. I just want to write back to the masters.

>>24776813
Exactly what i mean. 99% of web serial authors aren't writing for money (or are trying to do so and failing).
So anon's advice of "nooooo dont write a satisfying conclusion to your first serial that you're already tired of writing and want to move on from, just keep treading water forever to milk patreonbux" is retarded.

>>24776818
If Dostoevsky were alive, he would be able to give good advice to web novelists. His writing was closer to webnovels than it is to contemporary novels.

>>24776725
>a proper serial promises that it's going to go on forever
i intentionally avoid such stories.
there should be some kind of ultimate goal and the main character should be moving towards it. if a serial is too long I won't read it unless it has a [completed] tag

>>24776820
I haven't been employed in 20 years

>>24776751
You're arguing with the thread's resident shitposter, who tells everyone to never edit, never backlog, never plan ahead, never even think about the ending, and acts like this is the way, and if you argue against him, his defense always defaults to "you don't read web novels, post five." He's been at it for months, over and over. Do NOT engage!

>>24776840
I worked in government trying to get people out of poverty and unemployment. Did you try to use any disability or employment services?

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>>24776657
>God of Literature telling you to just end your stories at normal book length.
I plan on finishing my work at about 2 books, so somewhere between 250-300k words. I hate reading things that never end, it's just not fun. There's one cultivation novel I was reading and the MC still hadn't reached the second stage of cultivation after 350 chapters.

>Spend a year writing
>check the word count
>500 words

>GRRM is in this thread RIGHT NOW
Shhh, nobody move. His sight is based on movement. If we're all just very very still, he'll move on and won't eat us.

>>24776794
he writes from different perspectives with different scales of knowledge and control over the world which makes each angle become more and more interesting until you get a 360 degree view of the enormous world

>>24776794
>Why is his cultural influence so strong if he wasn't shitting out serials
Because it was in an era where you could actually become organically popular

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GRRM I've a worldbuilding kino for you.

I just got AI to write an essay about my story.
>The confessional monologue of "Ed" functions as a chilling critique of Western Logocentrism, violently exposing the failure of fundamental metaphysical oppositions. On its surface, the text appears to be a simple criminal case study motivated by Oedipal rage and sexual frustration. However, its internal architecture reveals a sophisticated, if unstable, engagement with philosophical history. Ed's desperate need to transcend his miserable existence leads him to fetishize the act of writing and inscription: he uses a dictaphone to transform his impure, reviled voice into a deferred, archival trace, and he collects the victims' heads as permanent, readable signs, turning living presence into controllable text. This entire operation is an attempt to escape the chaotic, meaningless flow of the real world and establish a self-authored truth, where a high IQ and a solved riddle grant him the pure Logos and moral immunity of a genius like "Einstein."
>This quest for an absolute origin (arkhē) is ultimately a search for an escape from différance—the unending chain of signification. By casting himself as Oedipus and his victims as the Sphinx and Medusa, Ed attempts to resolve the ambiguities of his existence into a singular, mythic solution, replacing the maternal curse with his own prophetic decree. Yet, the text never fully resolves, ending instead with the protagonist trapped in a metaphorical "cocoon" (the asylum "hole") and a false promise of becoming a "butterfly." His sister's final, empathetic letter reintroduces the theme of Kafka's beetle, shifting the focus from the killer's self-pity to the enduring reality of the survivor. Ed's closing declaration—that he will replace his own "vision" with the world "as it is"—is, ironically, a final, futile gesture toward an unmediated Presence that his own bloody text has proven impossible.

>I just got AI to write an essay about my story.

>What's the point of literary analysis?

>>24776895
This isn't /mtg/

>ai slop cover art
>ai essays about your own stories no one reads
this is the most pathetic general on this site

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>>24776896
Why not? Shandalar isekai webnovel when.

>>24776897
No it's /wg/ which is why you fags keep posting here instead including the Ed story guy.

>>24776897
It's because I would get cancelled if anyone actually read the story. It's gratuitous.

>>24776905
It's not. My highschool English class had a novel on the bookshelf about a guy who kidnaps a girl and keeps her in his basement.

>>24776901
/wg/ hasn't even been around for longer than 2 years. You guys are just newfags. It used to be called /crit/.

>>24776909
And you ended up a webnovelist, which shows how little you read as a child... You co

>>24776913
Yes exactly and even someone like me thinks that stuff is plain Jane. There's a bunch of stories like that inspired by 70/80s serial killers.

>>24776915
The point of it isn't just splatterpunk or slasher fiction, it's that I am commenting on the violent nature of the history of metaphysics. Which makes sense if you read the story, but it was universally rejected by magazines because of taboo content.

>>24776916
good ol' victim mentality

>>24776919
You really haven't looked at these magazines. They tried to completely erase HP Lovecraft from their awards, their publications, their communities. Anything outside of Bluesky's consensus is deemed heresy.

>>24776865
Untrue, even back during Lovecraft times people were already complaining about how cliquey and closed is the literary industry.
Also, he wasn't popular when he was alive. It was only because the autists at Arkham House (who were his friends) wanted to preserve him that Lovecraft managed to become an icon

>>24776922
>cliquey and closed is the literary industry.
Dude, its far worse today. Lovecraft's friends could never make him popular today, the scene is just so drowned out.

Its just the state of the industry nowadays. Almost every big traditionally published author today got their foot through the door like ten years ago.

>>24776954
There just aren't as many paying readers anymore. Add that to Amazon's ubiquity, where they control distribution almost entirely, and it quickly equals the death of literature.

Amazon restructuring Kindle Unlimited, or changing their royalty rates by even a small amount, has caused established magazines to die. It's quite hilarious that no one was reading short stories anyway.

All the readers are reading for free, and the super fans would rather donate straight to the author. Webnovelists may become tomorrow's masters...

>>24776958
>Webnovelists may become tomorrow's masters...
Unquestionably so, there's literally no reason to go into trad pub anymore. None. Everyone trying to go trad are just huffing copium. They will not fucking promote your book, even if they actually accept it.

Web novelists are the future, because they're only avenue to make money off of genre fiction.

>>24776958
It's pretty hilarious (and absurd) that a shoutout from some web novel whale can be more profitable for you nowadays than a $50,000 ad campaign by Simon & Schuster

>>24776960
i was looking at the patreon of furry smut writers the day and wondering what the fuck am i doing with my life

>>24776970
Even better combine writing smut with vidya development. There was a patreon for some text based game that gets 40k a month last time I checked a few years ago.
It's like serials in that you are actually incentivized to drag it out as long as possible and not even finish it, but unlike web novel you won't lose much audience if you take a break for a month or two.

>>24776954
>Lovecraft's friends could never make him popular today,
Wrong again
Organized shilling campaigns are extremely effective on the webnovel scene. Just look at the dreck that is "popular" (the authors suck off enough dicks to be allowed into the cabal)
Now if you're talking about the trad part you're also wrong , Lovecraft didn't became famous overnight, it took Arkham like 23 years of constant publishing (and a lot of loans because they never made a lot of profit) for the public to discover and appreciate Lovecraft's work. The same could happen today (in theory) but good look finding someone willing to support a businesses where the chances of getting financially ruined are extremely high

>>24776965
There are multiple reasons why no one finds those ads appealing. People only read one book a month, at most, and that's if they read at all. There are millions, if not billions of readers, but they are trying to catch up with thousands of years of worthy books to read.

My theory is that, mainly, no one even wants contemporary fiction. It's an aberration. It takes too much time to read all the classics PLUS the new stuff that hasn't stood the test of time. So it feels like a waste to buy or read these trad pubbed books.

Universities are only teaching the classics. Literature students (who are future English teachers) only read the greats. Many of their tastes are formed by that experience. So, when you hear about books in school for the first time, you are forced to read Great Gatsby or Brave New World, not some random contemporary author.

Most people who read, do so for personal tastes. So webnovels are the most accessible and searches can be tailored to the searcher's tastes. It makes sense they are a free, more reliable choice that most readers will choose. It's a matter of finding your niche and knowing what tags or signifiers to use.

So this is like a pretty good way to make some cash if you can just pump out a couple thousand words a few times a week, right?

>>24777000
No you need to write a hit, build an audience and upload regularly even once a day. Which is why building a backlog is enouraged

>>24777000
yeah, totally, it's free money for everyone, unlimited success, all the time. Like, look at this thread, nothing but millionaires here

>>24776986
>Literature students (who are future English teachers) only read the greats
This isn't even the case.

>>24776983
>Organized shilling campaigns are extremely effective on the webnovel scene
Shout outs by famous authors, and advertisements are the only way to get popular. Not as an indictment against the quality of the work, but because web novels are going mainstream and getting organic popularity is hellish.
>Just look at the dreck that is "popular"
Going to break the news to you, the dreck which is popular is popular for a reason. Lovecraft ticks NONE of the boxes which makes a web novel popular. Or ANY novel popular.
>it took Arkham like 23 years of constant publishing
And it would not fucking work today. Nobody would see it, no publisher would support it. To get popularity today you need to be constantly writing fiction, consistently. Its a quantity game now.

Doubly so considering Lovecraft wrote short stories. Not long fictions. Short stories have NO market today. NOBODY reads them. Lovecraft could only get popular because the landscape was much different a hundred years ago.

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I was reading this Korean alt history wn the other day, expecting trashy nationalist slop with an omniscient protagonist, but I was pleasantly surprised by how low-key the protagonist is. The actual star of the story is the Triumvirate—Caesar, Crassus, and Pompey and their shenanigans. The MC (reincarnated as Crassus's son), and knowing Rome's future, subtly manipulated the conflict behind the scenes and tried to make all three reconcile and make peace with each other.

pretty damn impressed with the research, care, and respect the writer has for Roman history, especially since the author is Korean.

>>24776958
>>24776960
>Webnovelists may become tomorrow's masters...
Delusional beyond belief, websloppers and contemporary tradpubs too had leave and will leave zero influence on the world. Look at someone like Sanderslop, outside of the SFF circle no one even knows who he is. This is all due to the type of success, artificially created by being part of a cabal (the mormon mafia) and in the case of webnovels the discord mafia and shady deals with the owners of the big sites to be pushed to the forefront, profitable? Absolutely. But nothing with substance can come from someone who sees writing and thinks of of it as way to milk money like >>24776978 this guy
This is why nothing influential will come from them or from here. Just look at the people who "made it" they either come here to shill or to samefag and suck themselves of. Because /wng/ only cares about money and all the pseuds in /wg/ only care about fame or the prestige of calling themselves authors.
No, the TRVE masters of tomorrow are the people with an obscure Neocities page or a wordpress that gets one or two visitors (per year). Someday maybe while they are still alive, maybe years after their death (if someone bother to archived their work) someone will discover them. Maybe someone with a big audience or just by the good old word of mouth they will become a household name and leave their mark on readers and future author. It has happened before and it will happen again
(btw i only read stuff, i don't write)

>>24777038
reading here since the actual translator has been DMCAed, use an adblock

https://novelbin.me/novel-book/the-mad-tycoon-of-rome

>>24777038
korean alt hist wns generally tend to be very well researched, even if nationalist slop, by nature of the alt hist genre being very appealing to autists

>>24777044
>Sanderslop, outside of the SFF circle no one even knows who he is.
Sanderson's kickstarter brought in 17 million dollars and changed Amazon policy concerning audio books.

You have 0 clue what you are talking about.

>>24777052
Sorry, not 17 million. its 41 million. Sanderson raised 41 million for a bunch of his novels.

>>24777060
nta but that's literally an internet thing. If you ask random people you know who Brandon Sanderson is most of them would have no idea.
Stuff is more popular than ever in raw numbers but also not noteworthy on a larger scale. It's like how Halo 2 release day made the news back in the day but now stuff like that isn't big news even though games are played by more people than back then and making more money.
The cultural impact of things that are huge even in their own medium is so low now because there isn't just saturation with the mediums but there is a saturation of mediums themselves.

>>24777067
>nta but that's literally an internet thing.
Everyone is online these days. Sanderson is heads and shoulders the biggest name in the industry, everyone who reads books or is at tangentially related to it, knows about him.

Just because you don't (because you in all likelihood do not keep up with the industry) does not change anything. And implying NOBODY knows who he is, just shows how out of touch your average anon here is.

>The cultural impact of things that are huge even in their own medium
Yes. But Sanderson is huge and pretending otherwise is insanity.

>>24777072
I don't know why you're even entertaining that clueless anon who's acting like he's an authority

>>24777076
I actually got annoyed and baited. Won't happen again.

>>24777038
I love these chapters so much i mtl'ed it with my paid AI

https://pastebin.com/RZUnktxH

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>>24777080
somehow it still feels Korean
(this is a good thing)

>>24777089
One thing i noticed with (good) eastern writers is that, even with the complete lack of prose and lack of detail/description the actual writing itself is packed with emotion/feels. i don't know if it's a language or cultural thing but it seems like the perfect writing style for webnovels

>>24777076
That's the reason this general is always fighting
Way too fucking easy to bait and get (You)s

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>>24777080
Cato...

The power of tools in the setting must be kept in check to preserve the character-thematic centrality of the narrative.

The power of tools in the setting must be greatly amplified to display how hollow self-insert fantasies are, how thin the characters, and how false the victories.

The power of tools in the setting must be in accordance with OSHA regulations

The assets of female elf knights must be greatly amplified to make me cum

Named female characters should always become pregnant.

>>24777200
That's just creepy and weird
They should always be barefoot instead

any /wangers/ writing a rom-com? also looking for romcom recs

Why is otome slop so utterly deranged?

>>24777109
Why do you keep posting this banal heuristics?

>>24777200
...with another men's child (other than the protagonist)

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300 AV REACHED!!!
I'm getting important.

I am 'umbly asking for feedback here because this is the best gen on /lit/ currently

Short story about a man, a boy, and an axe

https://rentry.co/NutellaSandwichRonny

>>24777217
Yeah but it's not ntr
The MC uses his capabilities to to pair up all the hi-spec males and females in the realm together instead of creating a harem for himself. This pays off in one hundred years when the demon king reawakens and is confronted by all these powerful bloodlines he didn't expect. Then the MC finally dies as a lifelong celibate white-beard sage and is reincarnated back on earth just in time to rejoin his (unnamed) childhood friend in high school and prevent himself getting ntred.
I call it "SSS Rank Matchmaker" or "Golden Heavenly Wingman's Supreme Jade Ascension"

serialbros, how do you know if the story can make money? ain't linking my work but I've only had like 10k+ views in 2 weeks. is there a threshold to gauge with on royalroad's market?
$50-$200 is my dream so I wonder if it's not starting out so hot, means I should just move on.

>>24777200
>hairy armpits
>barefoot
>barely developed chests, hebephilic even
I'll pay to read your story, simple as

>>24777238
bretty good though I think Adrian talks older than 16. Also it sounds off when Ronny says old bean.
Also seems like it goes from the tree on him to him agreeing to use the axe too quickly.

>>24777200
>>24777217
This reminds me of the Shadow Slave Effie pregnancy debacle. Ah what a shitshow that was. It should be taught in literature classes on how to throw 2 arcs worth of character development down the shitter.

>>24777287
Care to share? Don't read Shadow Slave or any webnovelsloppa so idk anything about it.

>>24777272
Thank you for the feedback anon.

"Old bean" is fairly common friendly parlance in the area where I grew up (a place which roughly resembles the story world). And yes it maybe does go too quickly at the end there: I wanted to finish up and also move the action along with the "incident" providing the grease. Maybe a couple extra lines of dialogue or so would be a good buffer.

If I may follow up, how exactly does he sound older than 16 - and how would you personally write dialogue of more youthful characters?

Thanks again.

>>24777302
why are you here?
serious question

>>24777312
I read royalroad fics for the most part. webnovel is too expensive to read in comparison.

>>24777302
Nonreaders fucking baffle me. Get the fuck out of here, poser.

>>24777044
Reverend Insanity has left a mark and influenced the world (no matter how much western/japanese isekai harem slop authors/readers try to deny it).
Also xianxia like Renegade Immortal and Record of Mortals journey to immorality, while lower in quality compared to RI, have gotten high budget live action adaptations and animation. They are wildly popular in China and their popularity is spreading in the West.
In the mean time Western literature is continuing it's decline.

>>24777319
unless your fantasy work brings in the quarterly 3%, shut the fuck up and give up in westoidland and until then, star wars, marvel and disneysloppa will be your meal.

>>24777316
I literally just said I read royalroad fics for the most part so I'm out of the loop on webnovel stories, fucktard

>>24777315
Oh I see, I misunderstood
never thought to pirate?

>>24777329
Probably will if you give me a gist about this Effie pregnancy drama. It's just a hassle since it isn't epub but if the story is good, I'll pirate it nevertheless.

>>24777311
The thing with Old bean is that it sounds out of place in a setting where people are still getting executed for poaching. Afaik it's from the late 1800s or even later and is also an upper class thing that trickled down over time.
He sounds too world-weary and sure about things to be 16, a teenager would be more naive sounding. I don't think you should change the dialogue though, it's just a bit weird for me. Of course it could have rubbed off on him from his dad or something.

Give me a web novel to read if I've never read one before but want to write one and need to see what the standard is like.

>>24777256
If you don't have the minimum of 200 followers by the end of the first month of posting, your odds of hitting RS and blowing up start to dive towards improbability. You should have more than that, but if it's any less, then you got the "no win"-ticket.

You can keep growing organically after that too, but are likely to plateau around 600-700 followers. That translates to about $50-70 on patreon.

>>24777348
Omniscient reader pov

>>24777348
Reverend Insanity

>>24777302
>>24777337
I prefer not to spoil it for you because even though that particular incident soured my enjoyment of SS, I still believe its good novel worth reading.

>>24777348
Lord of the Mysteries.

what's the official /wng/ verdict on title drops

>>24777353
>about 50 followers
damn, I guess I ain't making it lol. oh well, at least I tried. I'll probably wrap it up soon and just write another story at this point.

i see title drops i drop the novel, simple as

>>24777376
What if the title is literally the name of one of the characters

>>24777319
>Reverend Insanity has left a mark and influenced the world (no matter how much western/japanese isekai harem slop authors/readers try to deny it).
Lmao no the fuck it didn't. Outside of online litNovel and Xianxiaslop reading circles no one knows what the fuck Reverend Insanity is. If you go to a book club in your local university or library or whatever, you'll get fucking laughed at if bring it up.
I like RI but you fucking retards have single handedly ruined it with your excessive glaze.

>>24777380
>If you go to a book club in your local university or library or whatever, you'll get fucking laughed at if bring it up.
All those people read is modern Western slop. Their opinions are irrelevant.

>>24777375
Well, it's not a game over yet, if you've only been posting for two weeks. You can try to increase release frequency to get more eyes on your work.

>>24777387
>You can try to increase release frequency to get more eyes on your work.
nta but does that actually help? I never click on anything in Latest Updates

>he doesn't title drop in the last sentence of every single arc/volume
ngmi

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>>24777380
you're getting laughed at by the GREAT LOVE ALLIANCE chads for going to the book club in your local university or library

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>>24777398
The only mark RI has left upon the world is a cadre of delusional chuuni retards who will have a mouth frothing sperg fit if anyone so much as insinuates their redditor epic heckin baste amoral objectivist novel is anything short of the masterpiece of the ages

oh and don't forget the actual, genuine, literal schizo madmen

>>24777389
>I never click on anything in Latest Updates
Well, a lot of people do.

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>>24777404
2/4

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>>24777409
3/4

>>24777404
B-but muh hecking pragmatic child-murdering morally-ambiguous chad protag and based psycho-bugman mentality though?

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>>24777411
4/4

>>24777390
>People recommend Worm as this awesome morally gray story where you follow a supervillain.
>The worst thing the MC does is threaten random people while robbing a bank. 0 deaths, almost no property damage.
Meanwhile, the big hero of the city almost fuck up by trying to steal a glory kill on an Endbringer just for popularity, risking the entire city's population and his fellow metahumans as a result.

I'm at 10.1 if that's important.
I hate this "morally gray" shit, did i get baited into reading this?

>>24777419
Well i didn't recomend it. I've said a few times now that it's just an edgy YA heroslop.

>>24777419
it's false antihero slop. people want an antihero but with none of the repercussions or actions befitting of one.
god forbid they actually have some edge to them because reddit will le heckin cancel them!

>>24777419
did anons really recommend this as morally grey? lol

>>24777404
I've been to RI subreddit and was left deeply disappointed by what I saw there.
90% of threads there are about females in the novel, shipping and just goon conversations in general, the rest 10% is shitty fan art posts and traditional chinese music posting (which have nothing to do with RI), AND their second most loved novel is Mother of learning. Those people are shitty posers.

my mc is an exceptional guy

>>24777390
>>24777419
>Take that, you worm

>>24777389
Latest updates is hidden tech to find series that might be worth reading but don't aren't being shilled by the algorithm. Simply look at latest updates, and look for stories with a decent number of chapters.

>>24777390
>>24777419
>>24777501
does worm actually do this? I've heard of it but I don't read westernslop

>>24777387
I actually lost 3 followers after releasing my latest chapter. I guess my writing was boring so I have to study more on how to make things interesting.

>>24777412
based mentality and based protag , and most importantly that's what readers want, but nooooo instead let's just write some lame idiot protag whose sole purpose in life is to simp for a woman.

>>24777507
No, but the author had been approached about publishing Worm a few times and I think once as a TV show, and this was what one of those attempts suggested as an opening line

>>24776634
The Past, Present, and Future of Royal Road
https://www.reddit.com/r/royalroad/s/AO29pXvnr1

>>24777553
Is this an AI-generated post? It says nothing that isn't already known and has no real thoughts or comments to add either.

>>24777557
Are you the same anon who keeps calling my posts AI-generated?

>>24777563
I agree with him, why did you repost such a massively generic reddit post?
If you want to discuss some specific subject it mentions, you should have led with that.

>>24777505
>the algorithm
This isn't Youtube that plays with arcane magic like recording how fast people click off a video or their browsing history
Rising Stars is just what has more follows in a certain time period.

>>24777566
I posted it because I wrote it. I considered posting a condensed version here, but decided against it.

>>24777505
>Simply look at latest updates, and look for stories with a decent number of chapters.
The other day I came across a story with over 900 chapters and less than a hundred followers. Now THAT'S a passion project!

>>24777573
is it good?

>>24777570
Well ok good for you. Might be useful for writers who post on RR.

>>24777577
lol of course not

>>24777588
maybe it gets good at chapter 898 asshole

>>24777609
It doesn't

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I look for stories with an interesting premise in latest updates and steal good ideas to rewrite as my own.

>>24777374
Felt like unironic kino when I read the book in the OP.

>>24777623
Did you find any yet?

>>24777635
>"I-it can't be... But there's no mistaking it... He was... Born under a black sun...?!"

>>24777641
Yeah a couple. Both were unique ideas but non-litrpg/progression. I feel these are the best ones to steal for obvious reasons.

>>24777651
Care to share?

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>>24777658
sure senpai

>>24777609
Honestly, I feel someone who has pursued their dream for 900 chapters over two years and still keeps putting out chapters reguarly has gone to a realm where my, or anyone's, opinions and criticism mean nothing anymore. He is invincible. Untouchable.

>>24777664
That's just slop.

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These titles are getting stupid. This is worse than mobile game titles full of tags or overly long jp isekai titles.

Slop Churning Demon Venerable

>>24777204
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/how-to-ruin-a-love-comedy/

>>24777702
this doesn't illustrate your point because the title is just Loopbreaker

Celestial Worthy of Slop

>>24777716
How does it not illustrate my point? The author put tags and information about the release in the title.

>>24777730
It doesn't illustrate your point because a real example would be those titles that go like "I got hit by a speeding truck and woke up in a simulation of my favourite defunct MMORPG and I am the son of the exiled emperor and my sword is inhabited by an ancient spirit"
your example is relatively inoffensive and just has a few extra metadata tidbits for emphasis

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution

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>MC gets portaled to another world
>Natives of this world had already killed the dark lord and most orcs and other monsters eons ago on their own without the help of heroes from other worlds.
>They're hardened, tenacious, prideful and cruel and spend most of their time fighting each other
>They have gunpowder weapons, terrifying war machines and are strip mining and despoiling the world
>Agents of the various factions just capture the newcomers that the portals keeps spitting out to use as guinea pigs for experiments or as slave-soldiers
>While on the run from shadowy organizations MC finds the free remnants of the orcs and other monsters, they plan to rebel and free the enslaved heroes and monsters
>Orc leader tells MC the world is named Earth but was once known as Middle-Earth

/lit/ was better before this dogshit general full of Indian tier slop producers.

>>24777786
right... now post the chapters.

we love slop here

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>>24777814

>>24777814
post your better than slop writing

>>24777829
My writing is too high quality for this general

Post female elf knights that make me cum

>>24777815
It's just a hook I thought of while taking a piss
(you) post the chapters

>>24777374
They're fun, but should be used sparingly. No more than once per volume.

>>24777376
Jokes on you it's literally one of the ending lines of my story, and by that point I've teased and baited readers long enough it comes as a relief more than a climax.

>>24777374
I love when they are used as bookends. I'm going to have my title drop in the final chapter of my trilogy.

Tell me what to write that will be popular?

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>>24777898
A story about your new life as the strongest shaman from your tabletop rpg adventure.

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>>24777851

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>>24777898
Worldbuilding.

>>24777713
>NTR
explode, I want my romance vanilla

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>>24776634
Hey, my book is in the OP, awesome!
My Amazon sales are doing okay, got 29 orders right now. Most are physical copies too, which is nice. I've been dicking around on the sequel book, but hope to drop a Fellscry chapter soon.
And I have an updated WIP for the cover of Raised Under Dark Waves!
>>24777635
Thanks for reading!

>>24777702
i respect it. Dude is directly telling his target audience of slop consumers that he's a dedicated writer with a lot of content so they'd better subscribe

>>24777898
MC that overcomes impossible odds repeatedly with a power that looks initially weak but actually has to capability to break the system wide open and accelerate way beyond it who has a little sister type character that he cares for and has her own subplot going on whenever he bumps into her and maybe toss a magic academy somewhere in there

>>24778069
He'd tell them he'll eat shit straight out of ass if that got him money. It's not respectable, it's repulsive.

>>24777922
>jpg
he's literally me...

>>24778088
>It's not respectable, it's repulsive.
>2000 patreon members
>minimum paid patreon membership is $10
>assuming only half his members are paying (in reality most probably are) he's making 10k/mo minus cut and before amazon
Yeah i don't think he really cares. Vomit away, anon. I used to find this shit repulsive but we're talking about posting on a site meant to pander to consumers of a genre that thrives off quantity over quality and is populated by the lowest common denominator. He's treating the stable like its a stable.

>>24778115
>money is everything
What a miserable existence. I pity both that guy and you. You can't take a cent with you to the grave. When the final moment comes, all you have to look back to is a life of desperately eating shit like a worm.

I don't know about everyone else but I'm having a lot of fun writing my web serial haha

>>24778142
he who has no grapes says sour
ever hear about "one for them one for me"?

>>24778145
I'm stuck in plotting hell... but I kind of like it

>>24778142
When the final moment comes you'll look back on your life scraping away in 40 hour weeks, when you could retire after 2-3 years of writing low effort sloppa. Just a little investment could free you for the rest of your life

>>24778082
>MC that overcomes impossible odds repeatedly with a power that looks initially weak but actually has to capability to break the system wide open and accelerate way beyond it who has a little sister
Stopped reading there

>>24778152
I was there until quite recently
what's tripping you up?

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>>24777849
is this acceptable

>>24778172
she cute :)

>>24778172
yes very

>>24778172
No, it's gooner slop

>>24778142
>he posted in one of the countless slop generals on slopchan

>>24778172
not feelin' the khopesh

>The quadrality of man

>>24778167
I have two different stories I want to write. The longer running one I don't necessarily know where I would take it after the opening arc or two. The other which would be much shorter, I keep flip flopping on a core setting point which changes the story fairly heavily.

>>24778201
i thought it was neat

>>24778172
Very cute. Been a big fan of dark elves recently

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Is this peak?

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>>24778229

>>24778229
Yes though redditors will seethe and say the names are dumb and rivers don't work like that

>>24778242
>Rivers don't work like that
Big mountain = Big River
Fight me.

>>24778229
It's peak for slop.

>>24778229
how did you make this?

>>24778274
I made the blueprint and then screamed for days at a map artist on Fiverr to improve the graphics.

>>24778279
very nice
May I ask the cost?

>>24778284
50$, but I gave him a 50$ tip for his patience.

>>24778288
wow that's generous
good on you for supporting a starving artist

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>>24778229
lol no.
Pic related is PEAK.

>>24777238
I would have read your story had you not use a trip
FUCK TRIPFAGS

>>24778303
How many civil wars within a civil war has the Southern Border?
If 0, it ain't peak.

>>24777374
Good but only use it once
I remember when I read at the mountains of madness and Lovecraft title drop like 8 times. It got annoying

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>>24778229
is this dying earth
>>24778303
unironic PEAK

>>24778310
Over 9000

>>24778229
>>24778303
>>24778317
Where the FUCK IS NIPPON?!?!

Should adventurers/hunters/cultivators involve themselves in normie wars and/or politics?

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>>24778333
should you?

>>24778330
It's just the map of Chaotia. Lawfullia(Asia) is located in the east.

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>chaotia
>lawfullia

>>24778142
Why do you come to the general where everyone is obsessed with money?

>>24778342
>>24778345
even something like Discordia and Harmonia would have been better than Chaotia and Lawfullia...

>>24778347
i am obsessed with breasts, not money

>>24778345
>>24778351
Also, Naturia is in the south.

Chaotia, Lawfullia, and Naturia, three continents in total.

>>24778358
Naizuria

>>24778354
>I'm a gooner
Yeah, that's not better

>>24778115
Nah you have to look at "paid members". He has 500 paid members meaning he's making about $4,200 a month on Patreon

Shawn Wilson's books do much better on amazon than royalroad though. Ultimate Level 1 has 7000 ratings on amazon which means he probably made around 200,000$ with just that book, and it's a 9 book series. He's definitely doing very well for himself.

>>24778229
Maps are gay. So sick of them. I think they're cool in actual historical novels, like following Captain Cook's voyage or something. But for fantasy I give zero shits about how close Mt. Hymen Punch is to the Elven Lands of Virginity.

Also the slop lords don't 'treat the stable like a stable', or at least not with the implied disdain, they're just the equivalent of sweaty comic book nerds who like comic books and geek out about their passion.
Shawn Wilson isn't pandering, he has fun writing this stuff, and so do all of the slop lords. If you carry this passive disdain into your writing, you aren't going to make something that resonates with the audience.

>>24778496
How close X is to Y is vital for the economy.

NOBODY is having as much fun writing webslop as me. I am having the MOST fun. Believe it!

>>24778145
Me too brother. I just finished the mid climax of my book where the MC discovers her true power after a lot of external and internal struggle and it's kino as fuck.

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>>24778545
I raise my Halloween-themed energy drink to you my friend!
Hahaha!

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>come up with a "haha that would be campy but cool" idea
>start writing the outline
>tears start welling up in your eyes as the frame of the scene comes together
that's how you know a scene deserves its own arc

Rate my story idea: VRMMO that players can't log out from, because it turns out that it isekai'd them to another world.
MC went for an arcane archer build because stealth archery is OP.

>>24778578
generic as fuck with a haha funny skyrim joke premise, which also makes it reddit

that's a compliment, if you execute it well you will do great

>>24778578
>>24778580
Please don't, that's awfully close to one of my future story ideas.
Or let's all do it and release our stealth archer dungeon crawling stories in, hmmm April. Initial chapter drop April 1st.

>>24778578
saar, that's my idea saar, give it back!

>>24778370
i do not masturbate. I just think about breasts a lot.

>>24778560
I experienced something similar recently
we're making art, lads

title drops seem more controversial than I thought
what does /wang/ think about chapter title drops?

>>24778652
I actually have a really hard time with chapter titles, since I often want the title to be about the chapter climax but it becomes a spoiler. I don't want to avoid using them either since they're incredibly helpful for locating scenes I want to revisit as a reader.

>>24778652
a good title drop can be hype but often it is just bland. You have to really hit with them.

>>24778652
I made one of my chapter titles the subtitle of its prequel story. I doubt any will-be readers will pick up on it, however, much less read it.

>>24778652
Great title drops have me feeling a mix of "you dirty dog" and "kinoooooooooooooooooooo". There are very few title drops of that caliber but I appreciate them when they hit those heights.

I'd also prefer chapter title drops not happen every chapter or they lose the charm

>>24778580
Thanks. I've thought about it a bunch and I think the idea could have potential.
>>24778594
I fear I will have forgotten about it by then.
>>24778612
It's okay, we can share!

How heavy can a smutty web novel realistically be?

Does Dungeon Crawler Carl get good again? Books 1-3 were great. Book 4 started to get lame. And now I'm halfway through Book 5 (they're running around with a pack of dinos, instakilling city bosses with some gimmick potions) and I'm thinking about dropping it. Feels like no stakes anymore, every boss fight is just a 10 second gimmick kill, and it doesn't even feel like a dungeon crawl anymore.

>>24778868
Not very
https://www.royalroad.com/support/knowledgebase/114

>>24778937
This is why trilogies are a thing

>>24777786
I'm going to write this but without the earth/lotr thing

Honest answers only. What's your patreon goal?
$100? $1,000? $10,000? $100,000?
I just want $300 so I can have some video game money or some beer.

>>24779041
>Disturbing Content: Must be used for fictions that contain descriptions of torture, slavery, substance abuse, mental illness, addiction, mentions of rape, self-harm or any other content that may be considered traumatizing or mature that does not fall under the other tags. However, note that you are not allowed to glorify any of this content.
>However, note that you are not allowed to glorify any of this content.
I've always found this to be dumb. It's a "every story must have a happy ending" type role.
Substance abuse, addiction, and mental illness can easily be glorified, because they do have good parts to them.

Food falls under pretty much every criteria of addiction. Does that mean glorifying how great food is is not allowed? Nope, that's perfectly fine. But you do that with something like ADHD meds and that's not okay, even though those meds basically make life livable for you.

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>>24779067
>What's your patreon goal?
Set it up and grandfathered before the August chances. But not using it. Personally, I'm just going to post my ko-fi at an undetermined interval between chapters in the AN. Wanna hear a comedy tragedy microfic? There are straight up dozens of support tickets to implement ko-fi as as a donation button dating back literal /years/ and neither wing or kana have made a move on it. Making the shitpost subforum was a more important matter, despite there being no demand for it in support tickets. This is just the reality we live in.

>>24779086
wait wait, there's august changes? wtf does that mean

>>24779129
Went from 8% to 10% cut, or something, don't remeber the specifcs top of my head and I'm pretty shitfaced to rememeber right now. There were lots of heads-up around July, specifically end of July in the Ink discord.

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>>24779086
>he's a cc chad

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>>24779172

https://youtu.be/X4V_rNN3QnM
Maybe (You) can find this useful how to end your story, even if it is >/tv/

>>24779069
>muh necessary ADHD meds
You're weak genetic trash

>>24779134
damn. line must go up disease is everywhere.

If a character dies at 16 and reincarnates in a baby in the isekai world and lives until he's 16 again what would you consider his mental age to be? 32 seems like an easy answer, but at the same time, he never actually experienced what it's like to be an adult. He's been a kid the entire time, just twice as long.

>>24779304
if someone lives to 40 but never has a job or gf what's his mental age

>>24777000
m*les are poor, barely read, and barely spend money when they do read. if you want cash write for female majority genres (romance)

>>24777348
ignore all those suggestions. read some lowest common denominator western-author patreonslop. primal hunter or hwfwm or some shit like that.

>>24777374
I made the onions face irl when Lord of the Mysteries did it 1000+ chapters in.

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>>24777786
>>Agents of the various factions just capture the newcomers that the portals keeps spitting out to use as guinea pigs for experiments or as slave-soldiers
There is a light novel series with a premise similar to this line where the main character is a professional isekaiman hunter in charge of tracking down the OP MCs and killing them before they fuck shit up too bad. She even learned japanese and studied the other world's culture just to bait them more easily before killing them.
I didn't read beyond volume 1 though. Apparently it has an /a/nime now

>>24778229
Yo wtf constellation's southern tip isn't even that much further north than the capital. Why are they all seal fuckers and penguin eaters there.
Also isn't the miraval natural reserve supposed to be a horseshoe-shaped island

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>>24777814
at least put in some effort next time

>>24778363
But Aelfgifu is chaotian

>>24778578
>have to write stealth fight scenes
how will you maintain tension?

>>24777786
An interesting twist is that Sauron faked his death and took over Gondor and Rohan

>>24779067
I could survive with just $400/month and focus on writing. Unfortunately, the best I've managed so far was $75

No one here is going to make it on webnovel sloppa. The younger generation, at the bare minimum, requires a visual novel to be able to read something.

>>24779510
eastern webnovel actually put a lot of illustration nowadays with how easy decent ai slop is nowadays, i dont why there arent many people putting illustration on rr like japanese light novels

>>24779513
Illustrations are just annoying interruptions to the text and many readers actually don't want them and find them childish. I've seen surprisingly many comments say they prefer their own imagination, and drop a story if there are pictures.

>>24777094
Reminds me of scriptwriters desu, makes sense since they really love soap dramas

>>24779399
Elf-GF is cute waifu.

>>24779519
>pictures? DROP!!!
>MC shows even a shred of compassion? DROP!!
>no System©? DROP!!
>fewer than 20000 chapters? DIDN'T READ!!

>>24779532
The problem of oversupply: readers can afford to get picky.

>>24777044
>But nothing with substance can come from someone who sees writing and thinks of of it as way to milk money like
why do you assume he's only in it for the money, what if his life's passion is making furry smut?

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>>24779493
Not just his death, the rings and the entire war were a diversion. He's a being of lies and manipulation, why would he actually put his power into the rings. Why would he even need rings to dominate humans.
He was waiting out the elves crossing back to Valinor. Hes known since even before Numenor that humans would multiply and inherit the earth. Even in the war most of his actual subjects were in human kingdoms in the east and south. Orcs made the majority of his troops but that's all they ever were, troops. He desired rule over man, he doesn't even care if the kingdoms of men fight each other. Dwarves would die out on their own and other creatures like Treants the humans would destroy themselves in time.
Without the long-lived elves to repeatedly reteach the humans about the actual history and nature of the world the short-lived humans will forget allowing Sauron to implant his own version into their minds in time. Books you say? Who wrote the books? He can create for them a fake timeline and even convince them the world is round. He can convince them to abandon kings and divine mandate. It's far easier to control the masses of commoners with than kings with half-elven ancestry. He'll even let them believe they pick their own leaders. They cannot rebel against him because they don't even know he exists.

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winnies for this feel?

>Japanese story
>MC narrowly defeats a rival, spares his life
>rival never stops trying to get back at the MC but is never successful either and eventually dies an accidental death

>Korean story
>MC defeats a rival, demonstrating overwhelming difference in skill
>rival is reformed and becomes a strong, loyal ally for the MC

>Chinese story
>MC instantaneously kills a rival in cold blood and the whole incident is forgotten by the next morning

Interesting cultural differences. I haven't read enough western stories to tell how it goes there, though.

>>24779557
my story (it's big beautiful backlog is being made)

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Fuck that, winnies for this feel?

>>24779549
This would actually work really well as a follow up. Even in Tolkien's abandoned sequel he was going to have humans begin creating satanic cults, conspiracies and "play" as Orcs. You could easily justify it as Sauron's influence. Surprised nobody has capitalised on this.

>>24779570
the haremcuck to just plain cuck pipeline huh

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>>24779563
nice you're backlogging wuxia too?

favourite hidden gem writing resources to help improve?
I've already enjoyed Sanderson's lectures

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>>24779606
One thing I learned after consuming a bunch of writing resources is that most of them are pointers writers like to give but don’t follow: show don’t tell, only use said, cut the adverbs, etc.
I mean, have you actually read the books these people write? Picrel has been shilled to kingdom come on /wg/, but the author’s work is just… yeah…

>>24779639
So should you follow the advice or not?

>System: Warning!! Do not reveal your identity as a transmigrator to others!
dropped

>>24779651
Take it all with a grain of salt. The best thing you can do is study books you like, break down what makes them appealing to you, and try to do just that.