Superhero editionStubbed >>24781020>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>/wng/ authors.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSNZali-jIk2MASsAWVf8N7A8BlSyzPbAFV_BhsA5Ip3SWfMPWKxaXf8Pdb7f0TgFyWis31BzirtPeR/pubhtml>Advice for Noobs!##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##Running your story like the business it is:www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847On writing web serials:alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLY [Embed]Recommended web novelsrentry.co/d2yvczroAnon's guide to successrentry.co/RRBasicGuideFAQrentry.co/pytefpxn
author spreadsheet still missing our highest profile author...
>>24788101Haha it's okay, I don't need to be on your guys' list.
should i start writing RR reviews with a “sinometer”, aka measuring how chinese wn-like each WN is and arbitrating thus: low reviews for containing the taint of MTL-like chinesery; high reviews if they have western literary tropes and a lack of chinese ones?
>>24788027>4chan pass user in the webnovel general Whale-kun, how many patreons are you subscribed too?
>>24788126your scale is backwards, westslopper-kun
As a westoid I hate to admit it but the east are dominating us in the webnovel literature sphere. At first I thought it was because of sheer volume of output but the more I thought about it the more I realized it was incorrect. No, the reason asians are so good at it is the lack of morals. While your average western webnovelist is busy laying out their characters moral values with sensitivity mittens for their latest slow burn epic, the average asian webnovelist has already skipped that shit with their edgelord mc already offing the first of their opponents and established a basic understanding of the world while sizing up the next competitor to murder and rob. Honestly kind of humbling when you think about it.
>>24788172this is just the reverend insanity fag. don't be so obvious
>>24788175>Mislabeled and fails to refute point.The west loses yet again.
>>24788122wrong cover
>>24788205>refute point.your "point" is "i like this". you can't refute an opinion dumbshit
>>24788172I'm reading sss-class suicide hunter and gongja is a huge moralfag albeittrying to make the world a better place and get good endings for all the bit characters and even enemies is like the central focus of the story since his actual cheat skills are so op it's not really in question that he could somehow win in the end. there's a lot of focus on contrasting him with his asshole predecessor the Flame Emperor who he stole the time regression power from and basically replaced
>>24788214I accept your opinion
>>24788175Reverend Insanity is good though, I don't get why more authors don't try and copy/emulate it, instead they pick the lowest common denominator as a basis of their work.
>>24788485I didn't like it.
>>24788485It's very easy to tell why you wouldn't want to emulate RI by simply looking at its fanbase
>>24788526Don't you people want a paying audience? I think emulating one of the most popular (if not the most popular) web novel out there will attract paying customers. Don't forget that it had a published in China before the ban.
>>24788526can't think of anything worse than having people who liked your work
>>24788535*publisher
>>24788535Do most of it's readers know english?
>>24788485>I don't get why more authors don't try and copy/emulate itIts too edgy. Seems obvious.
>>24788553There is a huge demand for such work in the West. The West is currently drowning in traditionally published liberal lit and the shitty smut/litrpg in web novel scene. A serious dark novel with villain mc is desperately needed.
>>24788574Tons of those , wtf are you talking about?
>guy sends me pm saying they'd like to transate my work into Japanese and market it in Japan>ask work samples and say I don't approve machine translations>no responseI don't get it, why even bother asking for permission? If you ran somebody's work through grok or whatever, and posted it on some nignog site, the odds of the original author ever knowing about it are close to zero. Even if they did find out, what can you realistically do? Not like those other text rip or audiobook sites care either. It's fighting windmills.
>>24788485Saw this book being shilled constantly.Read the first three chapters.Character A says one word.1000 words of internal monologue.Character B says one word. 500 words of internal monologue from B’s perspective.Then 500 more words of A’s inner monologue.No wonder it has 2000+ chapters.
>>24788609>read the first three chapters
>>24788615>it gets good after 1800 chapters bro
>>24788620It gets good at chapter 1, however do read at least a dozen chapters before forming an opinion.
>>24788631It's complete shit from line one
>>24788485> I don't get why more authors don't try and copy/emulate itI know why, it's not very good. If you're an edgy 13yr old teen you probably its the best thing ever but all it does is cut & paste every trope out there and makes them as generic as possible.
>>24788696It one of the most popular webnovels out there, even years after it stopped being updated it's still in top 3 list of most read novels on many sites. I see people here constantly bitching about how to attract more readers, monetise their work etc but they all ignore the obvious dark story with villain protag genre that is clearly very popular with webnovel readers.
>>24788732Again , tons of those in RR
>>24788636>>24788696seething contrarian
>>24788750There is not a single novel similar to Reverend Insanity on RR.
>>24788779You might want to ask yourself why that is.
Who's the Mishima Yomu of the western webnovel scene
>>24788223Gongja and Undertaker (infinite regressor) are both massive moralfags but they are both some of my most favourite webnovel mc
>>24788787I just can't think of a reason, I mean RI is massively popular, there is a demand for such work yet nobody is writing anything like it. All we get is litrpg and harem garbage. Could it be that gooners are only capable of writing slop and nothing else?
>>24788732If it's such a surefire recipe for success, why don't YOU write an imitation for RR?
>>24788825I can't write.
>>24788485>>24788535Because it sucks?
>>24788830It's insanely popular.
>>24788822>>24788833Popular? The only place I'm ever seen it mentioned is here.
>>24788835I have seen it mentioned on RR forums.
>>24788908You must be one of the three people that read them.
the fuck is archetype
>>24789001google mofo
>>24788175I had been wondering what happened to him, only to lurk here for a few weeks and notice he only moved over here to keep his spam up. Thanks for containing him in all his faggotry.xoxo-/sffg/
>>24789104>/sffg/ touristhere's a little something to help you feel more at home (see pic related)
>>24788609>Character A says one word.>1000 words of internal monologue.kino.
>>24789117>touristRInewfag, you're posting the same image I post when niggers bring up Rothfuss. I've been on /lit/ since before you discovered 4chan and I ridicule your entire being. Given the opportunity, I would happily watch both you and Bakkerfag's physical shells burn.
are there any wns (outside of chinese) where a character or the MC kills another character for being black, white, indian or gay?
Hey Kinoman. You're the only author here that I found on MoonQuillNovels. (This is Tina-anon, hello) I had a *huge* catclog of my work there. Just clicked for my author's dashboard, and... bad link. What happened? Did all my books and accounts get nuked cause the site went down? What's going on. They suck for monetization but it was a great way to drop links to my catalog and chapters. Tell me what you know, kino-anon. (or anyone else that knows)
>>24789313Well at least you're not the reviewfag.
>>24789377No, that's the guy who made the spreadsheet in the OP and was posting all the other stats.
>>24789401No, I mean the /sffg/ reviewfag with his shitty reviews and his goodreads shilling (I think he used be a tripfag as well if I remember correctly)
>>24789377>>24789441Are you the nigger who posts the "your reviews are shit! f-f-f-fuck off!" buzzphrase, usually within minutes, whenever Yev talks about a book he read? You are an obnoxious nigger who would be pleasantly added to the pyre upon which RIfag and Bakkerfag fuel.>ummmm I said FUCK OFFlol
>>24789441Yes, I know. They're the same person. Source: MyselfFor you: >>24789445
>>24789441>UGH I THINK HE USED TO BE A TRIPFAG>IT'S ALL HIS OWN SHITTY REVIEWS UGGGGGHYou are coming up on 3 years, on a cursory search, of pulling this anti-intellectual "you can only discuss megapopular bestselling books on MY literature board".https://warosu.org/lit/thread/21198257#p21199621Don't forget to put a slug through your brain, nigger.
>>24789334Yeap, tine.Moonquill is dead
>novelpia (one of the biggest WN platform in Korea) gave verbal confirmation that they will soon allow western writer to post on their sitewill this start a trend of western writers with more eastern preferences, like lolis, no used goods etc? i just want ONE webnovel publisher for us westoids without the royal road crowd.
>>24789487>>24789334The site works fine. Don't be so excited about a site not working for a few minutes.
>>24789493FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antagonist' and SSS-Class Suicide Hunter collaboration soon!!!
Moonquill is for those who couldn't get signed by Aethon.
>>24789512Kino-man here. Fuck that site!!!I sent them my manuscript, and they didn't even bother to reply to me.
>>24789512aethon signs anyone
>>24789510SSS class suicide hunter author is with another Korean publisher (kakao).
Post winnies ur currently reading right now. for me i'm reading pic related (A Medieval Knight in a Martial Arts Novel). this review from NU sums up the premise pretty well>The central thesis of this work is 'The Murim in Wuxia is bad at war'.>The Murim characters have fighting skills, but they have little experience with mass combat. The story points out that a self defense weapon like the sword, and no one favors powerful battlefield weapons like the polearm because no one goes to full on battlefields. Their concerns are an elite assassin strike team rather than entire squadrons of enemies.>The Murim are set up as civilians and smaller local powers living in a long period of relative peace. They do not use practical battlefield equipment techniques because it would draw suspicion from the imperial government. They focus more on nurturing a few high level talents rather than mass producing 'good enough' talents for large scale confrontations.>The West is set as a contrast- it is a meat grinder locked into a forever war that has little room for the flourish or the exponential growth of a single individual seen in most Wuxia.
>>24789001superhero wn written by anon
>>24789537Time to decolonize Korea.
>>24789565>*>The West is set as a contrast- it is a meat grinder locked into a forever war that has little room for the flourish or the exponential growth of a single individual seen in most Wuxia. but in exchange they put emphasis battle tactics, grand strategy, logistics etc etc
>>24789520>Kino-man here. Fuck that site!!!>I sent them my manuscript, and they didn't even bother to reply to me.same here. but it was a *great*place for me to park my novels, develop covers, etc. RR doesn't allow "erotica" although it seems to be loosely defined. My one novel on RR, started out around ranking 90,000+. I remember being funny relating it was up to 70 or 60k in rank. I just checked, I'm below 40,000. I wouldn't call it a slow-burn path to success, but its something.PS - moonquill and moonquillnovels are like two diff sites. the MQnovels (where I was) is where they (in an email) sent me to post my stuff with the WNs. Which is how you fine folks (and crabs, lol) came to be burdened by tina-anon. I guess I'll start transferring stuff to RR one at a time between projects and watch them all drown ina sea of isekai and harem and everything else. Such is life. RR seems to be the only game in town where you have a *chane* at real success getting started. By that I mean the little bit of monetization possible there. 200 a week would allow me to write full time. Tina-anon is a poorfag and while not ashamed if it, I aint proud of it either. Does lower the bar where what normal writers would laugh t would be a boon to me. I still enjoy writing though. I'm getting somewhere slowly. I'm finding my "tense" people complained about as I write first draft now. "Oh. past tense only. He DID something, he's not DOING it. I think individual chapters stand out and I like reading them myself now. My best trad novel though is an international financial conspiracy (comes after th events in Merry' Present) and my crystal ball says that might be a no no on RR.
>>24789448>your reviews are shit! f-f-f-fuck off!No, not me.>>24789461Not me. >>24789450Why are you here? Go back to /sffg/ and stay there.
>>24787524I checked and it looks like they posted they were working on dumpstat with a few hours of you making that post. I wonder if that's a coincidence or not
>>24789594>.I was talking about Aether Tina...
After beating Ex33 by abusing the hell out of the 1HP build, I think it’d be pretty cool if there were a novel about an MC who grows stronger the more damage he takes. So he starts the fight by purposefully getting the shit kicked out of him, then just as he’s half-dead, he pulls out a bullshit move that wipes the floor in one clean swipe. It could even be a misunderstanding comedy where other people see him as some selfless hero who draws enemy attacks to let others escape, when in reality he’s just annoyed that the mob enemies are chipping away at his HP bar way too slowly.
>>24789648The Tutorial is Too Hard does that I think
>>24789448>Are you the nigger who posts the "your reviews are shit! f-f-f-fuck off!"Who?
>>24789565How does he make any use of that by himself though
>>24789738https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search&search_text=%22your+reviews+are+shit+fuck+off%22&
>>24789639>Posted regularly for 2 months, hit Rising Stars, and dropped. Author had a patreon and teased exclusive content on the patreon (the book was on the line of smut fantasy, and you can guess what kind of person the author is: you're correct). The announcement of hiatus was 16 days ago and there's no end in sight. Everyone who supported this story just got baited and betrayed, in my opinion, ESPECIALLY the people who supported on patreon.>This could easily have been solved by having an outline, having an ending in mind, and having a solid backlog. Now that the story is off RS and unlikely to grow, or even recover to how it was before hiatus? Odds of the story continuing or concluding are basically zero. I cannot trust this author ever again.There's no way this is just a coincidence
>>24789769What the fuck? What a schizo.