first for writing goon seshions with ai chat bots

When I get stuck writing I make the next paragraph a sex scene between the characters and write 500 words of fucking. Then I erase it all and get back to the real scene. I find this works well.

>>24797793
You should save it, never know when it will come in handy. It's not like you need to ration storage.

>>24797721
i live in literal third world country so something like 1k usd is already far above average wage. i wonder how hard it is to reach that kind of patreonbux

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>>24797809
Really hard. That doesn't mean it isn't worth trying though. $1k USD isn't beyond your grasp. I live in Canada so I'd need a lot more, which will never happen.

>>24797809
>i live in literal third world country
Third worlders should just sign their rights away to the chinks at webnovel.com. Guaranteed few hundred dollars a month.

>>24797809
doesn't need to be pure patreonbux, you can make quite a lot on amazon too. 500/500 a month is quite doable so long as you're writing to market, have high output, and are at least ok at writing sloppa

>>24797853
>at least ok at writing sloppa
That should go without saying. Honestly we should rename it to web sloppa general since we keep getting people in here every thread who don't get it.

>>24797870
Added to spreadsheet in OP.

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>Ad looks like this
Is this the best way to get clicks? I like it.

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>>24797888
hurray!

>>24797793
one either loves writting sex scenes or dresds writting sex scenes. There's no inbetween.

>>24797870
> Prince
> Female Lead
> No gender bender tag
Huh? I sense a trap.

>>24797751
I have exhausted all of my goonslop ideas that are AI compatible(remaining tastes are too esoteric). I hope that this will get me to start writing actual content again.

>>24797809
And this is why third worlders will take over the art world.

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I think my story just sucks and my attempts to go back and add things just makes it worse overall and snuffs out that spark of amateurish enthusiasm.

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>>24797941
Do I look like I would I ever lie to you, anon?

>>24797957
Are you pubbing it or still editing it? Generally the best thing you can do for a story is finish it.

>>24797975
Editing.

>>24797870
nice saggy tits, who's the artist I like their saggy tits style

>>24797853
>amazon
Qrd in making winnies on Amazon ?

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>>24797983
I draw these myself

>>24798011
You'd have to ask Akaso, nobody else from ehre made it that far I think

>most successfull wng writer is making 4k/month
>2nd most succesfull is making 250/month
grim
why is the gap so big between the 1st guy and everyone else

>>24798122
He writes smut.

>>24798137
>>24798122
Yeah it's the smut, he writes smut. Same for wutosama's Metaworld Chronicles/Animecon Harem, you never hear about it but it makes bux because it's smut

>>24798122
>grim
Akaso had irl problems which hurt his growth. But the vast majority of /wng/ is just starting out. So keep that in mind when you look at FortySixtyFour, he's been posting consistently for six years when the market was nowhere near as tough as it was. Not wanting to downplay his achievements but it just is what it is, web novels are going mainstream now.

>>24798192
nta
You make a good point. I could add start and end dates on the spreadsheet.

>>24798203
I think that's necessary so anons don't spiral out of control. If I bake the next bread I might add that Web Novels are going mainstream, and thus it's a lot more tough now.

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I'm making a WN like Monster girl evolution but instead being the monster girl, you raise them from eggs->ducks/swans->monster girl. the main premise is slice of life usagi drop daughter raising simulator style in not-isekai world.

picrelated are the two main heroines character design

top is the ugly duckling character, Odile (tentative name). - is very greedy, possessive and insecure
bottom is the golden swan character, Odette (tentative name).- is very genki, airheaded and likes shiny/golden things

thoughts? this is my attempt at making up something Japanese and i'm cringing already

>>24798209
and yes they are very loosely based on swan lake

>>24797751
i prefer to read fictionalized goon sessions created by actual human webnovel authors. no need for slopbots when there is more written smut on the internet than you can get through in a lifetime. unless you have super niche autistic fetishes

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>>24798209
So it's like digimon?

>>24798209
will the daughterus be dicked?

>>24797904
stick figure and meme ads are part of the RR meta.
but generic AI generated images with words about OP MC are also meta (many authors even mention not especially liking ads like that but doing them anyways because they can see the referral stats and how well it works) because the median reader on this site is a fucking retard

>>24798144
animecon harem was less famous and less patreonbux earning than re trailer trash from the same author. it's currently on hiatus though

>>24798122
>>24798137
>>24798144
who's the 4k smut baron?

>>24798229
>unless you have super niche autistic fetishes
Can you really call yourself a true gooner if you haven't entered the Peerless Kink Realm?

>>24798209
>usagi drop daughter raising simulator
in which volume do you plan to begin the daughtercest arc

>>24798037
based

>>24798209
Odile mating press

>>24798209
How are you going to handle the wings getting in the way of everyday life

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>>24798209
Make sure to include lots of chapters where the characters have to pass massive eggs. Maybe a chapter where they hold hands and comfort one another as they each lay one. Thanks.

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>MC's ai assistant lady constantly degrades the protag and is constantly talking about how much more attractive his best friend is
Is the author just inserting his cuck fetish?

>>24798357
>author just inserting his cuck fetish
How new are you?

>>24798122
>>24798144
That does it. I'm gonna start writing a smut magic college litrpg. Everyone's gonna love it.

Is the spreadsheet AI reviews anon still around? I'm still waiting for that sheet.

>>24798370
Which sheet?

>>24798363
You need an original hook to set it apart from all the others

>>24798229
what about smut novels and not web ones? im trying to get into them but reading female perspective ones is aids, very gay coded desu

>>24798363
Call it 'Dongmancy 101'

>>24798380
iykyk

>>24798396
>what about smut novels and not web ones?
There's not much written for a male audience in the English market but you can read translated pornographic light novels.

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>Read western harem story
>The girls are all used goods and also bisexual with each other
Really?

>>24798410
reading cumslut by b sojakken right now but its female perspective first person, scared it will turn me gay

>>24798421
Well what kind of girl would want to be in a harem with some guy they just met?

>>24798421
>I want a pure virgin girl who is also okay with marrying/hooking up with a guy who has three other girlfriends
???

>>24798515
t. sub 8 male.

>>24798526
That's the blackpill, Jimmy.

>>24790858
>>24790460
Alright i'll bite, what are you two writing about?

>>24798570
A whale that jumps out of it's tail.

I'm going to color code the durations of how long someone (has) worked on their story. What should the colors and divisions be? It could be as simple as less than a year and more than a year, or as much as a different color for each amount of years.

>>24798624
I think the best divisions would be monthly and yearly. So if its under a year, it should be green (and this should be the big division, because there are so many fics that are like 2 months, a month or like a week old on /wng/). A year of work could be yellow, 2 years orange, 3 years red, 4 years purple, 5 years blue, 6 years gold, etc.

>>24797741
Should the author spreadsheet be sorted by Followers or Status? It's currently sorted by Followers. Status would prioritize ongoing series (including stubbed) then by follower count.

https://strawpoll.com/QrgewQV1ryp

>>24798673
status prioritizing would be more convenient

Another Anonymous Amateur, The author of Glass Cannon — The wind blows me away but my spells destroy everything, https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/132697, has deleted their story. They had 34 followers. They also deleted their profile. https://www.royalroad.com/profile/745943

>>24798766
This was also deleted by them:
Transmigrated as a mech, I now fight Kaiju Another Anonymous Amateur Completed 14 followers

I could look in the archive to see when they posted about it first for a rough duration, but that's low priority.

>>24798766
What?! Fucking why?! I didn't download it or read it yet.

>>24798776
They mentioned that something bad happened irl before Glass Cannon started. Which destroyed their motivation to continue writing it.

>>24798776
Shame because it was really, really good, and he was an exceptionally nice guy.

RRs ui is so bad. Why can't I see followers, views etc on the books own page?

Can someone explain me why ORV is this highly rated? I read approximately 230 chapters and it has been really bland with only a few moments that feel fresh...

Will it get better? If yes why? Did I miss something?

>>24798766
>>24798787
Oh. That sucks. I hope they manage to get through whatever happened well enough.

>>24798808
what the fuck is ORV? Why can't you niggas just type out the full name so we actually know what you're talking about?

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>>24798766
That's sad. I remember them being in the thread and asking for advice, and input. Hope they come out alright.

65 Amazon sales for Born Under a Black Sun. 35 of those from one day. Reddit advertising is the way

>>24798837
Congrats man, very admirable.

>>24798837
Yeah. There's not really any point advertising here, lol. This site is very niche.

>>24798209
>monster girl evolution
Yikes.

Does it get better or is MEOW just bad?
It's popular enough on RR/highly rated enough to be in the bracket where the authors are usually competent but it's so dull.
I get that it's being sold as "cozy slice of life" but there's very little actual life going on in what I've read. I've read plenty of SoL and know what makes the good ones tick and it's missing here.
Maybe I should take literally no negative reviews as a warning from now on, idk.

>>24798794
so you stop sperging out about numbers and just read

>>24798252
Yeah with that author everyone's been begging them for years to drop everything and just write Trailer Trash and they won't do it lol

>>24798857
>can see the numbers in serach results, latest updates and rising stars
>can't see them on the books own page
How does this help with sperging out or not sperging out. It's just inconsistent deisgn

>>24798888
you can't see them in latest updates

>>24798766
It was in my backlog...
>>24798817
>Will it get better?
For me, it was good from the start, so idk what to tell you, anon. Sometimes there are novels you don't click with.
>>24798808
>What the fuck is ORV?
How don't you know ORV? I'll tell you just this time, even if you didn't ask nicely, the novel is called "Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint".
>Why can't you niggas just type out the full name so we actually know what you're talking about?
I agree with your statement though, even if typing every time the full name of "That one time I reincarnated as a black man in an NTR novel, but why does my mother look at me like that? ~This life I'll gather a harem, starting with my big sister~", its better to do it than to not do it imo.
>>24798853
>MEOW
Like, how am I expected to know what the fuck MEOW is?

>>24798921
Meow isn't an abbreviation

>>24798842
Only retards advertise here
Leaving the fact that most of the userbase are zoomers who don't read, the chances of catching a sperg that will try to doxx or tank your story is very high

>>24798926
See, if we didn't do abbreviations, I wouldn't have made that mistake because we just type the full title every time.

>>24798766
Damn. Sad to see. I hope the author is doing alright

>>24798588
Holy shit!

>>24798921
I don't care or bother with Webnovel web novels.

>>24798817
this is a general for web novel readers. if you don't know the acronyms of the major serials then go google it or at a very minimum shut the fuck up
when did anons get so brazen and indignant about being newfags? sad state of affairs

>>24798588
I will now read your story

The completed fanfiction, The Burning City (Touhou), by conmal has been deleted, as has their profile. I do have to wonder if it's because of the spreadsheet.

>>24798973
I thought better of my peers to read anything from Webnovel of all places. Reading through ORV is just giving me chronic turbo whiplash by its writing and lack of dialogue tags. But hey, if it makes you happy, don't let me stop you from diluting the development and refinement of your own writing.

Thought of an idea for a litrpg based on another one of my favorite games being fucked relentlessly by braindead gorilla nigger devs
>Litrpg world with classes and stats but also has constant changes made by the gods of the world that are given out via prophetic words (patch notes) to the priestly caste
>Changes are completely nonsensical and can take upwards of decades for an issue the gods introduced in a previous patch to be resolved
>Monster strength and spawns being increased because the gods felt like the world wasn't challenging enough, laws of physics randomly changing to "shake up the meta", entire sections of the world disappearing because they were outdated so they'll supposedly be updated sometime in the future (they never are)
>They recommend that you send feedback to the priests, which does nothing
>Priestly caste defend the retarded design decisions to their dying breath
>Main character was born into a shitty class that's considered a joke class but was added in as a "fun challenge"
>Managed to make it actually useful via some exploit
>Gods take notice of him, "fix" the class exploit and reset him to level 1 as an example
Anyone can take this or not, I'm not using and and just venting

>>24799007
/Wng/ authors just... self destruct often.

>>24799013
i dont read eastern slop. but im not a newfag so i know the major stories over there. bitching about not knowing acronyms when the acronym is common in the space is ultimate newfag behavior, and you did it loudly and proudly. kys

>Personal quality that was previously thought immutable actually can be changed.
Is this concept actually a trap? Because there's a lot of shitty "power to do everything MC" and solo leveling clone stories that are essentially some variation of this.

>>24799055
A trap how?
It's not very original but it clearly works as an appealing hook to sloppa readers. Everyone likes the MC feeling super duper special. It's power fantasy after all

A considerable amount of these Inactive are that the author didn't change the status to Completed or Abandoned. It's a mystery why not Completed since it says Final Chapter or Epilogue on several.

Is the web novel community just a group of people guilting each other into buying their dreck so the same $5 is just endlessly circulating?

>>24799066
no it's people who like to read

>>24799066
where did you get this bizarre idea? the author and reader communities are pretty separate.

An author's profile page lists their total number of unique followers, so for those with multiple stories, you can get an idea of how much their followers overlap between all of them.

>>24799029
Go for it, looks fun.

>>24799040
I've been here since the first /wng/ thread, and the first /wg/ thread...

>>24799087
you're still a newfag to webfic, what this thread is explicitly for, if you don't know what ORV is. i don't even try to keep up with webnovel sloppa and i know what it is. it's probably in top 5 popular easternslop alongside LOTM and RI

>>24799029
In reality it's more like mages are overpowered for 2 years straight and the devs finally nerf them by 5% and they send death threats and ddos the forums

What kind of villainous force would be good at representing the idea of succumbing to fatalism? The first idea that comes to mind is some kind of strict hierarchical society/government, but something about that feels a little hackish to me.

>>24799100
I've been in the webfic scene since 2019. I just couldn't care less about Chinese or Korean stuff because I don't go to the hellscape that is Webnovels and don't read badly translated ESL works like those on there. In any case, I'm just baffled why OP took 230!!!! chapters to figure out the story was bland, and for me I realized it was bad after reading the first 2 chapters. It's like watching one piece for 900 episodes and asking when it gets good, you know? Also, to answer the original OP's question, Webnovel 's stats are insanely inflated; they deceive you for clicks. I thought that was common knowledge at least.

Guy posts a story for a year, vanishes, and comes back with a single chapter 7 years later. Still has 10 followers. Some of them were probably rather surprised.

>>24799114
>and don't read badly translated ESL
This is really the reason why I don't bother with RI, or ORV either. I want there to be an actual proper translation done before picking it up.
>>24799147
What fic?

>>24799164
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/14117

>>24799104
Fatalism is really just another flavor of nihilism. To succumb to it is to lose all hope of self determination. Soul crushing, but also relieving, in a way. When everything has been decided before you were even a thought, what burden is there to think about what you do?
Imagine a person who wanders through life doing whatever he damn well pleases, for no reason at all. There is no purpose behind his actions, just his moment to moment whims. He could be laughing it up with someone at a bar one moment and cutting their throat out with a beer bottle the next. It wasn't him. He had no choice in the matter. It was destined to happen. If anything, it's divine to listen to the voice of destiny and do its will. And for a hollow man with no voice of his own, destiny has many, conflicting voices with which to direct him.

>>24799029
If everything gets changed randomly then I have no reason to get invested in the worldbuilding.

How do I start writing one of these

Where should I post my story if I'm not writing litRPG, Progression, cultivation etc etc etc basically nothing that is popular in royalroad right now

>>24799227
Wattpad

>>24799223
You open up whatever document you use to write and start writing?

>>24799231
Wattpad is just for fanfics though
>inb4 ackshually you can post original stuff there
I know and nobody fucking reads them

>>24798973
>major serials
it's korean. there are like 2 anons here that have even read it.

inb4 >>24799234

>>24799242
All the smaller ones like Scribblehub and Ao3 are even worse in that regard.

>>24799007
are we allowed to link fanfiction here? I have one.

>>24799066
relatively few people actually buy novels for 5 dollars. it's mostly patreon or kindle unlimited (where people pay amazon 15bux a month and read unlimited books for "free" and then amazon pays out a slice of that 15bux sub to the authors based on how much time was spent in each book)

>>24799259
depends on whether the hotpockets were good this
I know Crow & Rabbit anon actually uploaded their fanfic story to RR when it was previously only on Ao3. There's surprisingly a lot of fanfic on royalroad

>>24799262
no i had to upload to RR first because AO3 had/has an account creation waitlist. I was under the impression that fanfiction was against /lit/ rules which is why I asked.

>>24799262
There's a Warhammer and a Pokemon one in RS. It actually kind of tics me off for some reason. Not only do you have to compete with all the typical isekai/litRPG stuff but also random fanfics.

>>24799258
Grim
I guess I'm just going to dump it on RR and hope for the best, plus my neocities site.
I was planning on making a substack, but unless you already have a following or are a political grifter, you can't get traction there.

>>24799227
You could always try Tapas or Honeyfeed.

>>24799259
Technically no
But as long as no one reports you, the jannies won't do shit