Are you fags still writing about wizards and dragons? How is you magika system coming along?

>>24840418
No we split from the webnovel sloppers a while back

I don't think it's true that /wng/ stole most of our writers; I think it only stole those writers unwilling to persevere through any legitimate publication process, instead satisfied with rushing their work to an audience.

How to get over fear of the blank page?

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>>24840463
>>24840413
Who do I trust more, my MENSA membership or
https://www.writingtoiq.com

>>24840463
>Estimated IQ: 75 (below average)

>>24840474
bro thinks testing well means actually being good at doing things

>>24840480
https://www.writingtoiq.com relies on tests and test results for its algo I presume.
Tell me, what do you personally think of the shanty.

>>24840484
It's good for someone with below average IQ

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>>24840413
iq 148
>kek

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>>24840413
It's bullshit.

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>>24840413
Corncob BTFO

It would actually be cool to try to use NLP/LLMs to quantify eloquence

>>24840571
Ya I can't wait for a world without meaning or mystery of any kind. Will be super fun to just be a coomer and a consooomer

>>24840582
Well they already solved the mechanics of beauty and humor and it didnt hurt anything

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>>24840587

>>24840587
They who?

>>24840474
Got AI to generate this gem that scored 62:

The man was on the way to work. He felt that his work was not as good as it could be. He did not know why he went there. He did not know what he saw. He had much time, but the time was not his own. This was a bad thing for him. He was one of many people. They all went that way. Every day was the same. He said, “I have to get there. It is time for work.” He thought, “My day must be different. I must do what is right for me.”

Then he saw a new thing. It was a small box. He said, “What is that?” He did not know what to do. He went over to look. The box was old. It had been there for a long time. The man put his hand on it. The cold was a shock. He was not there to see a thing like this. He was to go to work. He said, “I will not go.” He took the box. He put the box with him. He said, “I will take this with me. It is a new thing for me.” He felt good. The day was now a new day. He went back. He went the other way.

He went to his house. The house was small, but it was his. He knew he would feel better there. He did not have to think about the other people. He put the small box on the table. He said, “This is what I have now.” He was happy to see what was in the box. He looked. It was black. It was much older than he was. He felt many things about the life he had. He felt as if he could make a new way for him. The box was the most important thing. He did not know what was to come, but he had it. He was free.

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do I win?

>>24840618
Honestly sounds kino

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69 lmao poniefags btfo

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>>24840413

I posted my first chapter and got 105.

I feel like that's correct. But I'm also concerned that maybe that's a little too high to be accessible to a general audience.

>>24840424
i was initially interested in that thread because it seemed like it would be about all forms of independent/web publishing and a place for people to find and talk about various genre/publishing niches but it's like 100% focused on making litRPG slop and gaming the royal road algorithm. i was hoping there'd be a thread on here about other forms of slop like romantsy.

>>24840649
Too high, needs to be at most 90.

>>24840743
Me too, i tried asking people if they posted their stories on non slop sites, but no one answered.

reminder that if you have aphantasia, it's already over. give up.

>>24840619
bix nood kek

>>24840472
Find whatever you *are* willing to do, and do that until the other things get easier, for example:
>stream-of consciousness writing practice
>fan fiction instead of original story ideas
>describing an existing scene from real life or a movie instead of one from your head
>go back to something you wrote before and rewrite it
>take a page or paragraph of someone else's work and modify it until it's unrecognizable
>take a page or paragraph of someone else's work and transcribe it, verbatim, thinking about what they did and why

Somewhere on that ladder you'll find something that doesn't throw up psychological blocks.

If you have "writers block" or don't know what to write, you have not outlined enough. Beat sheets exist for a reason. Proven chapter and scene outlines exist for a reason. Apply them to your story.
You should, at least in your mind have the climax of your story as the guiding light on where to go.

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>>24840472
Read Ray Bradbury's 'Zen in the Art of Writing'. Unironically.

Board tourist here. Will I be fine with the /wg/ resource pastebin to get back into the groove of writing, or are there any other craft books that anons are keen to recommend?

>>24841018
Bradbury sucked ass, no way in hell am I ruining my writing by reading that shit.

>>24841394
Many anons including myself encourage you to ignore charlatans and just write. That being said, Garner's Modern English Usage is a good resource

>>24841018
Somewhat related.
But there any great writer that said they owed their career to Stephen King's On Writing, Ursula K. Le Guin's Steering the Craft, and other such books?

>>24841394
Read the book above your post

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>>24840413
Copy/pasted this little paragraph I typed in another thread on this board.
>>24841482

Monster
What are you even

>2 rejections after a month
>Just a generic reply that the project isn't for them
>Waiting for another 3
It's over

>>24840472
Make it smaller. Write in a pocket sized spiral bound notepad if the full letter sized page is too overwhelming.

>>24840931
I can’t imagine what life would be like with that.

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Going to try another writeathon next month, so I austically ranked my current options assuming I'd start fresh but instead came to an unpleasant stand off. Either I
>finish the story that has been dragging endlessly for the last year
or
>swap its theme & setting and actually finish it, at the "cost" of it probably being less well written
all drafts should be a shade of poorly written but fuck me that it requires a complete change in time periods to allow myself to believe that

>write erotic slop
>Have a buddy draw a cover with a cute anime girl.
>Publish it .99 cents
>600 people buy it
I guess gooners really are easy to please

>>24842132
>writeathon
Go back to your containment thread

How do writers mentally switch gears to get back to writing a story?
After watching a great movie I'm not sure about how I should return to the mindset I had when I was writing my story. Any tips?

>>24840743
>>24840835
That thread is hyperfocused on RR because that's where all the big money is. If you have more modest aims or are weeb enough to work for pennies, you have... not many places on 4chan to talk about your stuff, to be honest.

>>24842333
>write erotic slop
How many words?
>publish it .99 cents
Where?
Unironically. I have a backlog of at least a dozen smut works that I'd love to publsih.

>>24842404
I wish I could leave this place. I don't belong here. You people are polluting my soul.

>>24842414
Join the club. Smut's the only thing I've managed to practice and I am extremely good at it. Indecisiveness has slayed me. How I wish I could reach the highs others can.

>>24842422
>>24842422
Get thee behind me, you loose-livered profilgate

L’leyowyn the water elf raised up the mighty great sword Targol and cleaved open the skull of fire breathing dragon. “Burnbringer the dragon shall breathe fire no more,” said L’leyowyn. She struggled to pull her blade free from the dragon’s thick skull. As she pulled at the handle her large breasts swayed enticingly and the loose chainmail draped over them jangled.
“Tarry not, L’leyowyn. There are terrible beasts here, far worse than fire breathing dragons,” said Bromlar, the dwarf. He stood beside the elf and admired the view as she struggled to wrench her blade free from the fire breathing dragon’s skull, which she had lodged her blade into to kill him.
Finally, she tore her great sword, named Targol, free, and a geyser of hot blood shot from the wedge-shaped crevice it had carved into the dragon’s skull. L’leyowyn sighed in relief and hefted the blade over her shoulder. “How much worse can anything get around here?”
Then they banged.

>>24842414
Elaborate.

>>24842386
I wouldn't even call it hyperfocused. The other sites are just tiny or mostly fanfiction. They honestly get mentioned proportionally to their size. The one real competing web novel site is Webnovel and thats literally a Chinese site full of Chinese-style stories, and 4chan is an English site (supposedly).

It's like saying a self publishing discussion is 'hyperfocused' on Amazon KDP. You're right...its just kind of a weird thing to point out or be surprised by. It's the only viable option.

>>24842456
If it is not readily apparent to you then there is no point in my explaining further. Go back to your anime and Pynchon novels.

>>24842422
that's why i was checking out this thread and the WN thread actually, i was hoping there'd be resources/discussion about smut peddlers because i think that's my best bet given how much ERP i've done over the years

>>24842486
(Paid) smut does much better on Amazon than the web. People looking up porn on the internet generally want it free.

Pretty sure most digital publishers allow erotic content. You just gotta avoid tripping their AI censorship, everything needs to be "empowering" and "explicitly consensual"

>>24840424
>stole most of our writers
/wg/ never had writers.

>>24842493
>>24842506
yeah i figured the end goal was being comfy on Amazon making very simple normiecore smut but i wasn't sure what the road to that looked like, or if there was any potential in catering to weird niche fetishes the way artists do

>>24842486
Word of warning, ERP and smut writing are two very different beasts. First off the bat you might realize that ERP is extremely guilty of head hunting and eschews most of the buildup and interaction that should happen, if they include any at all.

>>24842511
>weird niche fetishes
depends. weird legal or weird illegal?

>>24842515
that's where my interest began, i actually haven't ERPed in years because i like the buildup and interaction but it's such a niche area to begin with so when you say you're looking for more story you're cutting down your potential partners to single digit percents lol.

>>24842516
i guess both? i wasn't aware that purely written smut could be illegal outside of all the debanking shit where Mastercard is setting the limits for what kind of furry sex you're allowed to depict.

>>24842524
>in years
>single digits
Brother, as someone who went back to the mines recently and came back out, let me tell you that got even worse. It's no longer single digits, it approaches the hundredths, and that's only if you manage to get the right partner with the right character. You're better off writing smut, it's less work for more reward.
>i wasn't aware that purely written smut could be illegal outside of all the debanking shit
Being debanked is pretty fucking horrible.

>>24842538
well debanked was the wrong word but i mean how all those websites were removing porn artists and changing their TOS and stuff because they were getting pressured by payment processors.

>>24842524
>i wasn't aware that purely written smut could be illegal
im not saying writing it is illegal. im saying that most major publishers won't allow glorified smut depictions of acts that are illegal in real life. they will often allow really weird shit that isn't illegal though

>>24842620
yeah that was part of what i was thinking about, obviously Amazon isn't going to be selling cunny stories so finding that line of the other weird shit is tricky, the rules about furry porn for instance were oddly specific in this article i read that was picking apart the terms that i think Mastercard was using to push Valve to remove a bunch of games earlier this year

>>24842479
>4chan is an English site
Wrong, 4cucks is an indian site

>>24842670
>obviously Amazon isn't going to be selling cunny stories
Which instantly shuts me out of the market.

Yes but what if 1,000 year old vampires?

>>24842129
it's the same as life without it, except you think about things instead of picturing about things

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Please give me your thoughts. Good night.

>>24842792
(also posted on https://medium.com/@panosfrag/chapter-xi-415637aafb91, in case you want to read more for some reason)

>>24842792
>abovedeck
Stopped reading right there, learn to spell check before posting

>>24842695
i'm not above it myself but i wouldn't want to make it the focus of what i'm doing, i guess you'd be down to some obtuse methods like crypto for anything payment processors don't allow? but then at that point why bother, unless there are a lot of suspiciously wealthy cunnyseiurs who can offset that bullshit like how there are artists who cater to furries with weird fetishes.

>>24842871
I wouldn't even know how to set up the infrastructure for that, and I missed out on the window to buy bitcoin in 2010.

what's stopping you from publishing your slop as a webnovel then editing it into a proper novel?

>>24842883
shameful

>>24842883
It's not big enough to be a webnovel.

>>24842909
Your writing is shit and publishing it is like posting a picture of your crusty asshole online. If you felt the appropriate amount of shame your work would never see the light of day.
Since you don't feel shame, you might as well capitalize.

>>24840413
I think I scored a 138 on an IQ test. Sorry if my intellect cannot be fully incapsulated by asinine little pattern recognition puzzles.

>>24842367
?? are webnggrs having a writeathon?

>>24840499
All you needed to do that was see what he has as a barometer:

>Stephen Hawking, using his last paper as the sample, achieves an IQ of 151.
>Alexander Hamilton, using Federalist paper number 6 as the written sample, achieves an IQ of 166.
>Testing different CNN reporters using their articles, I got IQs ranging from 102 to 127.
>Testing different 5G-coronavirus conspiracy theorists using posts from one of their Facebook groups, I got IQs ranging from 75 to 89.
Muh big government advocates and government stooges good, muh skeptics bad.

I was able to get some comfy slop switched from 80 to 120 by forcing in some unwieldy words and hard to parse phrasing in a couple of sentences.

>>24842792
So is this a world where normal firearms aren't a thing? And instead they have these magic firearms powered by whale oil? Hmm could be an interesting premise.

>CNN reporters
>102-127
lol
lmao even

>>24840413
>84 IQ
:(

>>24842792
>sperm oil
>dark, oiled wood
>wooden rod
>pipe
>brass-bound hole
>ramrod
>ball's locked in place
>dripping wet

could you be a little less obvious about your BBC fetish?

Good news /wg/! Somehow /wng/ has gotten even worse than this antiquated thread so I've decided to return.
How's everyone doing? Are we pro trad pub or pro self pub these days?

Why I can't get people to publish my poems
Maybe they just suck?

>>24843241
What went wrong there this time?

Since /wng/ is dead, would this be the appropriate thread for talking about the upcoming RR writathon?
>>24843294
The RI spammer kept spamming more and more. Some people wanted to split the thread to get away from it, but supposedly jannies deleted the thread. And the RI spammer then made the new /wng/ thread with just spam. For some reason that's considered okay.

>>24842825
Based ESL

>>24842792
ai

>>24843391
>Since /wng/ is dead
>>24843241
>/wng/ has gotten even worse
you have to go back

Im writing a nonfiction book (handbook) which I plan to be extremely graphically heavy. What is the rule regrading which photos/symbols I can/cannot use, especially government symbols (for example, HAZMAT placards)?

Also where/how do I source these to put them in a Word document? Should I just screenshot the highest res photo I can find, cut it out in paint, and paste it in?

If an open submissions call mentions nothing about simultaneous submissions either way, should I assume they do or they don't allow them?

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Working on a novel. Would like to hear some feedback on the first couple paragraphs of my introduction.

Being 14 and a dropout and having no parents and living on the streets, you'd probably think my life was pretty shitty, but it was actually real cool. On Fridays, I'd usually find myself hanging out and chilling outside of Burger joints, doing shit like knocking over trash cans and spitting on people's faces as they walked out the door. Though, it really pissed people off and I admit I kinda got roughed up a couple times, it was a pretty cool way to hang out in between doses. See, I didn't always have the cash for my Uppers. I was into, like, high-quality shit, none of that low-class shit those fucking faggots and niggers did all the time. I needed good quality high-as-a-kite shit, but it was pretty expensive shit, see, so it took me a while to gather up the money to pay for it. Usually I'd scrape up the cash by like, pretendin' to bum a light or asking the time off of some walker-by (usually one of those smug-ass business dudes, since those fags can't fight for shit).

Once I got all my money and shit, I'd take it to Greg, my dealer. He was 17 and also a dropout, and I always thought he was real handsome and blond and hot, but not in a faggy way or nothing. He's just, like, the kinda good-looking guy that you can tell chicks are all over him and he's probably swimming in pussy, sorta like me. I get so much fucking pussy man, you don't even know. Greg had this real bad slur though and pretty much sounded like a retard. Chicks apparently dig tards though, 'cause whenever I see a guy acting all tarded, he's always got bitches swooning over him and shit. Fucking chicks, man. I really hate them, but I love goin' in on their pussies. I love pussy man, it's so fucking good on my dick and shit. Can't stand the chicks, but the pussy is good. That's why I hate fags so much. You have to be some sort of a fucking tard to wanna turn down that sorta shit, y'know? I've never gotten that shit. What a bunch of faggots.

>>24843418
I've never used AI in my writing. My bad for using dashes, I guess.

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Would anybody like to read the produce of my last two days? Tell me what they think, even? It's a little raw at parts, I will admit, but it's far from unreadable.
It pertains an amorous scene of a brother and sister laying in bed. It's not lewd or anything.

>>24843478
It's quite good at emulating the parlance of a retarded 14 year old, but unfortunately, I -- and I would posit most other people -- don't want to read books written in the parlance of a retarded 14 year old.
Have you considered 3rd person narration?

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>>24840413

Sample of my writing

>150 exceptionally gifted

Sample of Brothers Karamazov

>116 (high intelligence)

lol, get rekt bitch

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Repost of mine, but really ought to inverse this to happy joy land and see if it still agrees.
>105 for a prose original work
>94 for a lewd fanfic greentext which bumped up to 96 putting it to prose