“Real Writers” EditionPrevious:>>24848643Please remember that /wg/ is focused primarily on real writers—that is, authors writing frequently and with the intent to garner an audience. If you’re a sniff-your-own-butthole author, you are reluctantly allowed in this thread, if only because you’re technically on topic. But you will be made fun of at all opportunities.Genre Fiction and Web Novelists welcome with wide arms. “Literary” authors should go to their containment thread: >>24851315
This isn't /wg/.
>>24851522It's the new /wg/. Times change, oldfag
>>24851513Do I need to come up with an ending or character arcs for my sloppa? Or can I just wing that shit
just finished the first draft of the novel I've been dreaming of writing for like 4 years. Need to run through to polish the prose, but I'm actually happy with it. Feels breddy gud senpai. Anyone else making progress towards longterm project?
>>24851527>endingyou should know arc endings and build toward them>character arcsmost MCs are fairly static in sloppa, by nature of having to last millions of words (how much can you really change them?) Side character arcs intertwined into plot arcs are compelling, however. Not strictly necessary though
I'm having a problem with my webnovel. My main character is a princess/goddess/chosen-one/doctor/lawyer/engineer/surgeon/beauty-queen, and everybody loves her and simply falls to the ground at her feet when she walks by. My problem is, how do I differentiate my work with literally every female-written YA girlboss novel on the market today? Or should I just accept that there's absolutely nothing about my writing that would interest anyone, ever? Help me, web novel experts! I'm totally sincere about my dilemma. I've already written 742 chapters over the last three weeks and fear it's too late to start over.
>>24851540Just be yourself
>>24851540if you're going to mock web novels at least have a vague understanding of the genre. girls are gross, male mcs are the standard here
another chapter finished. I'm so happy. cheers.
>>24851540This but my webnovel is about an aura farming necromancer with a harem and also a hot sister
>>24851545I tried being myself, but it seems no one likes me when I'm myself, so now I'm trying to be someone else, writing a Mary Sue work about a perfect girl that never encounters any conflict she can't deflect instantly.>>24851547But writing a male MC is so gay. Also, the primary consumer of webslop is women, as well as men with a female mentality, i.e. faggots, so I don't want to alienate my potential fanbase.
>>24851565Wow, what an original take on the genre! I bow to your superior creativity. I wish I was able to think of something so shockingly innovative. Do you have a Patreon? I want to commit to paying you once cent per month whose name ends with "b".
>>24851566the /wg/ is troll is here... how nostalgicwait, shit, what do we call him now?
on the upside, it seems like this thread won't be very welcoming of Frank either
>>24851578RIfag
>>24851584definitely not the same guy. /wg/tard was in /wng/ for months before RI guy showed up.But /wg/tard might be the RI falseflagger, I do think that's plausible
>>24851540give her a unique gimmicky videogame class, like eldritch flower arranger or psionic embroiderer. make sure to give this class a cheat power that's more OP than everyone else in the world combined
>>24851561kampai!>>24851565does he get with the sister?
>>24851578Fuck off to /trash/ and you won't have to call me anything at all.
>>24851591>eldritch flower arrangerwait... someone write it, I want to read itcute lesbian slice of life please...
>>24851591She's already heavily multi-classed and has divine lineage. I was planning to give her mythic ranks, but according to my outline, that wasn't going to happen until chapter 2,422.
>>24851602>cute lesbian slice of lifeit has to be a court drama where she humiliates all the noble girlrivals who foolishly make an enemy of her because they think she is their competition for the prince's cock. and lebsianism on the side
>>24851642PLEASE
>lesbiansI wouldn't mind F/F but it's always tainted by lesbianbrain. Like something in the water every author drinks.
>>24851655Is there a difference?
>>24851656two women fucking each other is NOT LESBIAN LGBTQIA+. we've been over this
>>24851655Impossible. As a yuri fan, I've got a water filter that goes through microns-sized polypropylene to activated carbon to deionizer to reverse osmosis to sulfur to mineralizer for me to drink. Now I can immediately know whether the water I from a restaurant is fluoridated or not
>>24851655More seriously though I agree. I struggle to read Royalroad's version of lesfic. I mostly read f/f wlw fic on ao3, of which 99% is undoubtedly lesbian authors writing about lesbian relationships. The male authors on RR infantilize both of the female interests and present a really weird, childish, unrealistic view on romance that I find generally uncomfortable. I've read 10s of millions of words of lesfic and 10s of millions of webslop serials and the only overlap that I enjoyed is Katalepsis—and I honestly didn't like the romance in that much. But probably because I prefer monogamy over polygamy
>>24851666seriously what is it with every web fiction author either writing asexual mcs or polygamous harems
>>24851678webslop authors are mostly men who don't understand romance so they either ignore it, or they write a purposefully indulgent view of it. I don't necessarily blame them because I'm pretty accepting, but yeah, that's the explanation I feel very confident in
>>24851666Wrong. Lesbians don't exist. The people you're talking about are all coming from a place of misandry and it taints everything.
>>24851657i see
Time heals all woundsOw owIs my turn now
>>24851657As someone with a chromosome abnormality I really hate getting lumped in with those degenerates.
>>24851697what? did lgbt really take in mentally ill people lol? pretty sure it's a sexual orientation movement, even when expanded
>>24851688trvke
>>24851702>did lgbt really take in mentally ill peopleWhat did he mean by this? LGBT are each at least one mental illness (trannyism is several distinct mental illnesses all put under the same umbrella though).
it's hard for romance to break through zoomer termimal irony.
>>24851709by that I meant aspergers or autism or whatever he meant by chromosome abnormality. i don't think they're considered LGBT, surely
>>24851588RIfag has been shitting up /sffg/ and making threads about his favorite chink story for years now
>>24851714and? he wasn't in /wng/ for months. /wg/ fag was, constantly.
As an lgb fiction writer, my biggest fear is that if one day I get minimally popular to warrant a fan subreddit, some unwanted readers will inevitably push for that rainbow+brown pride flag as the sub picture, and any attempt to remove it would be met with massive cancellation,
>>24851720you aren't a lgb fiction writer if you would push back against that
>>24851717Of course, since the purpose of /wng/ types is only to ruin things why would they be in their own threads? They're not in their own thread right now, for example. Terrible people, very thankful the thread is gone.
>>24851726based on their 10 post a day rate /wg/ types weren't ever in their own thread either kek
>>24851717>he doesn't know schizos pretend to be completely new schizos Holy fucking newcutie, lurk moar
also what’s the deal with trans authors, particularly male to female using such terms as “sapphic” instead of lesbian to describe their character’s romance? particularly if the character itself is male to female, and, owing to the nature of fantasy fiction, has attained the transgender ideal of completely transmogrifying their body from male to female.
>>24851727Not kek, no. That would imply laughter. There should be something you type to imply impotent bitter seethe that your fake threads are gone.
how are you more sperg than lgbt+ posters
>>24851723I mean, none of my protagonists are ever straight, but I'm not a big supporter of identity politics to the point I wanted to see their symbols overtaking my work. So even if I wouldn't define myself as a "queer" author, past readers referred to me as one.
you know, you can tell yourself your above sloppa, that what you write has genuine literary merit, but if you force yourself to write some sloppa you get a lot of perspective on what it really is, instead of some repulsive ignorance.
>>24851720>lgb Cringe, it should be only bHomosexuality is not real and neither is lesbianism but bisexuality is real
>>24851729It's like when you see a latino referring to himself as "Ibero American"; it's just a pseud's way of displaying how much research he has amassed on a topic through slightly more refined vernacular, be it geopolitics for the spic, or "femininity" for the mtf.
>"mtf lesbian"Shit cracks me up like nothing else
>>24851733my god the projection LMAO
>>24851762I don't hear any laughter. I see a tantrum, by an impotent person with Jewish shit on his teeth.
I support lesbian romance but encouraging irl lesbians creates a net negative for birthrates so there should be a congress legislation to make lesbian fiction available for men only.
>>24851602>eldritch flower arrangerI actually have a side character planned out for what I'm writing that's literally this. The plan is that she's an [Eldritch Maid] in mc's manor that adventurers think is a dungeon. Lots of people try to kill her, including the owner of the manor (But in a tsundere kind of way). She also gets fun powers like summoning clean bubble slimes and corrupting flowers, but avoids direct combat for the most part. None of that's written up, though. I just wrote up the chapter where she gets introduced, but she doesn't have lines. Also, I didn't really plan on anyone being lesbian, but I do have a lot of female side characters, the more I think about it. Don't think I would write romance very good though, since I don't really read it.
>>24851513How do you write a character with these traits without it being insufferable?
>>24851797I want to breed her.
what would you as a writer consider a month’s worth of chapters for a WN?
>>24851816better it is, less I expect in quantity simple as
>>24851797she can fix me....
>>2485181625-30 chapters imo
>>24851836daily?!
>>24851797is there a punchline?
>>24851840one chapter daily for about 20 days, then you slow down to a schedule you're consistent with, say every 2-3 days you write and publish a chapter. or once a week. it all boils down to if you outlined, have a ending in mind, and how fast you can write a chapter, line edit it, and have it out to release.
>>24851850how can someone justify thisthere is no way the stuff youre publishing holds significance if youre writing chapters this oftenno one has that much to say manis it legitimately just imagination roleplay navel gazing?what is special about this? how does this in any way foster your work profound?i really dont want to believe that people dont care about writing something genuinely valuable, not just another indulgent materialistic possession.
>>24851858am i having a fucking stroke
>>24851858it's strongly advised you write a backlog before publishing, by that meaing basically just writing out the whole story, ideally. that's why outlining is also very crucial.
>>24851858wrong thread unc
Should a story about a public domain character be considered and tagged as fan fiction?
>>24851678>or polygamous haremsBecause readers get attached to the first named characters. You can't have the MC romance someone and then drop her. Readers don't like that. Web novels take place over a long period of time. In reality a guy would have multiple relationships in that timeframe, but because of the above you can't write that. The solution to this is a harem. That way the first girl stays in the relationship with the MC.
>>24851858>there is no way the stuff youre publishing holds significance if youre writing chapters this oftenkeep in mind serialized webnovel chapters are in the range of only 1500-5000 words, much shorter than a typical book chapter.
Keeping in mind that this is a first draft, can you tell what's physically occurring in the scene? I'm usually confident in this type of passage but I'm wary of this one.
>>24851885no, it's public domain
>>24851902who in gods name are you showing your stuff to for you to think this is in any way difficult, obtuse, or obscure.its well written so good job.i noticed a typo on dsappointed btw
>>24851945dsappearing*
>>24851945I wasn't sure if the car's headlights and shadows part made sense, or if people would understand the various street crossings. Thank you for the feedback and for pointing out the typo, I'll fix it right now.
>>24851966It made sense, but I was a bit confused why you'd draw attention to these extremely minor details. Guess it fits if you want to establish a neurotic character/mood, but it also comes across as unintentionally comical to be tailing somebody and then being distracted by "look at this fine seam of light and shadow on the pavement dude"
>>24851945NTA but I've been given shit over my prose many times just on the basis that it's not babby's first chapter book level braindead
>>24851976Not surprising, seeing many anons stumble on their flowery trickery and produce only unintelligible balderdash.
Did mods reeeee out and delete wng or something? What did I fucking miss?
>>24851998as a consequence of spergs sperging and intentionally sabotaging /wng/ with spliter OPs and spam of various kinds, e.g. random passages from RI
>>24851534I am happy with you, frogposter
>>24851714I don't think I ever made a thread about RI.
>>24851902So much unnecessary padding.
>>24851534im writing some post modern non linear fragmented shit (yeah i know) which is currently at 21k words and 40+ chapters.8000 of those words are from this past week. ive been feeling incredible about the progress.no idea when it will end though. trying to not let the scope creep too much.im prepared to spend at least a couple years on it.
>>24852042man you dont even understand what excessive is>picrel
>>24852050>~500 words per chapterI know you're writing avant-garde stuff, but isn't that too little to develop something meaningful before jumping chapters?
>>24852053NTA but 500 words is usually more than enough of "post modern non linear fragmented shit" in one go
>>24851902The first paragraph alone makes me hate it. I get some prose but holy fuck it's such an overcomplicated way to describe "he stood at the edge of the light from a street lamp and a car passed by". It feels like you're trying way too hard. Keep the prose as a light touch.
>>24852053i guess i should mention that a lot of the chapters are incomplete. plenty are simply bullet point notes of the concept.
>>24852052The first half made me kek, was that the intention?
>>24852060and, 500 words per chapter is an average, not a constant LMAO. i have paragraphs that are nearly 500 words. and chapters that are less.
>>24852058imo the first paragraph is beautifully written. NTA!!!
>>24852064>>24852060>>24852053On average 2100 words per chapter seems right.
I'm the opposite of an idea guy. I can't think of ideas that I consider interesting. And when I do think of something, I decide it's corny and scrap it.
>>24852151Just steal
>>24851973>>24852042>>24852058I've been trying to use this story as a way of beefing up my descriptive writing skills, so I definitely go overboard a bit sometimes. I usually struggle a lot with describing scenes and just skipping to dialogue (where I feel stronger). Thank you for the feedback, I'll try to tone it down to find a happy medium.
>>24852052Fuck, I wish I could write like that.
>>24851540Embrace your Mary Sue. Rename her Mary Sue. Mock your readers for not adoring Mary Sue. Push her Mary Sueness to such such insane giga-Sueness that it becomes comical. Make God himself fall in love with Mary Sue. Then push it further. The thing is, everyone who writes a Mary Sue tries desperately to hide that she is a Mary Sue, and they fail. That's boring. That's cliche. Write the Mary Sue to end all Mary Sues. "My name is Mary Sue, Queen of Queens. Look on my millionaire vampire harem, ye mighty, and despair!."
>>24851720Hey, you forgot the T. Surely you mean LGBTM, right? The M is for maps, and the T is also for maps.
>>24852052> They removed and fractured the non-removable SSD from their respective computers
>>24852161It's fine to be descriptive, but it should tie to what's happening and support the narrative, not just float apart like oil bubbles simply for the sake of having prose.
>need a name for glowing rocks>fucking minecraft already took the best oneNow I have to use lightstone or luminite or some shit
>>24851816WNs aren't writing, sort of like asking as a writer what I think a month's worth of stop lights are.
>>24852215Luminite is used in both Terraria and Runescape.Make it glow red/orange and call it Pyrostone or something (Pyrite is a real mineral)
Names have no copyright. Everyone and their mom uses mithril and it's not like they asked Tolkien if that was okay
>>24852215hardlampsciastonerockshineglowiescaveguides
>>24851662>polypropyleneSounds like you're drinking microplastics.
>>24852215i call my glowing rocks lightgemsbecause they're gemsspecially treated to make them glow on demandfor light appliances
What the fuck am I supposed to do? I only read webnovels am I supposed to talk about them from a readers pov in the WRITERS general? What even caused this?
>>24852266when in doubt blame the bugmen
>>24852266I'm back at /ssfg/Bakker cocksucking is marginally better than prose-fags
>>24852266You're supposed to get the fuck out of /lit/ - literature board.>>/jp/>>/a/>>/trash/>>/reddit/
>>24852266Your friends already chose total hostility, so there will be no discussion, not really. You might as well just leave, actually.
>>24851902";his foot barely missing [...] speeding car." and "a couple passed by [...] and Flynn dodged them" and the classic "a few seconds later" — consider removing all of that. The text is quite cumbersome to read, and for a chase scene it would improve the flow to avoid detailing something as usual as the protagonist passing by randoms on the street, unless they stopped him or developed him in some way, like "is the protagonist willing to shove a granny to keep up the chase?" and not merely dodging a couple [with linked arms] in one sentence, that's not described as a challenge, because it tells the reader nothing other than padding.>>24852244Nope. RO filter does that
I'm so fucking hyper active right now, I could write the new fucking divine comedy.Good I feel so fucking good holy shit I have endless energy, literally endless there's nothing that is going to stop me.
>>24852288I just got a warning on the previous /wg/ thread for ironically mentioning RI because discussion of fanfic was not allowed. Maybe this hanny hates wuxia? So we have both an anti-anime janny and an anti-wuxia janny
>>24852293WRITE NEW REVEREND INSANITY NOW
>>24851534Mostly finished drafting out a whole arc and now wondering if it even fits well with the rest of the story. I'm currently studying for a big test coming up so I've decided to just step away from writing till that's over and let my subconscious chew on the problem. Hopefully I'll be able to make a decision once the test is over.
>>24852296No i'm not gonna do that, you see I'm just not going to do it AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.I am going to be famous so much that not even the governments of all the worlds united will be able to stop me (united nations put Jesus on the front without warning) and I am going to be so rich that I will pay taxes.Get it? I will pay taxes! Taxes well paid.
>>24852295I have been RI posting for many many years and have not gotten a single warning yet.I think your statement might not be entirely truthful desu
>>24852286That's just defaulting to how I normally write though. The entire point of this story was to try a different style. I will definutely try to tone it down though, because the common consensus is that I missed the mark, so you are probably right. Thank you for the feedback.
FFF-Anon couldn't do 1% of the damage the RI-Seniors did in a week over the course of months, impressive! This here junior pays his regards!
>>24852152And randomize
>>24852333Cultivation is not for everyone.
>>24852360 It's not for anyone. It's degenerate Chinese slop and it shouldn't even be considered literature.
I created a strawpoll to account for which writing medium anons mainly use and their matching productivity output. Vote here: https://strawpoll.com/XmZRQP9oWgd
>>24852397PC is objectively better than the other optionsT.<500 words a day shittterkhankcaptcha was khank
There are studies about pen writing stimulating creative output more than typing on screens and keyboards
>>24852436May I see those studies?
I've been thinking about getting a remarkable for writing. Should I?
>>24852443Can't you just use a regular tablet with stylus
>>24852447So true, I should buy an Ipad pro.
>>24852443maybe if you want to be one of those dickheads who buys good equipment when starting a hobby only to never actually use it
>>24852442You may not.
Finally working on my first novel. It's definitely not good, but at least I'm writing
>>24852495That's great, anon! What's it about?
It's so fucking funny that the reading discussion is getting modded while the "writing" part which only ever leads to cancerous shitflinging is staying
How do people seem to get agents so easily? I submitted my manuscript to 5 agents and all rejected me
>>24852498It's a cultivation novel.
>>24851720>>24851736you're either really good at baiting or actually based desu. What settings do you have characters in? How do you let the reader know a character is gay or whatever?
What would western cultivation look like?I mean, if you replaced the whole studying the Dao thing with western sensibilities.
>>24852442https://www.psypost.org/handwriting-activates-broader-brain-networks-than-typing-study-shows/
>>24851797simple. sling shit until you are constantly charmed by your text
>>24852498It's about a war between two small factions who live in a post-WW3 society. Starting to feel like I should have done slightest bit of outlining beforehand, but oh well
>>24851885Depends on the author of that character.
>read a modern book>Don't think the writing is all that impressive What's their secret?
I suspect the great hostility between the anons of /wng/ and /wg/, and the fall of /wng/ was orchestrated by entirely unrelated anons who wanted to troll.
it's out, it's out!https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/128737/the-wheel-and-the-wing/chapter/2728642/36-blocked
>>24852551I don't mean to get all bitter but I think most people get published because they can be read by the average reader more than because they can write
>>24852556It was caused by /wg/ not being able to stay in the slower thread and kept shitting up /wng/ with complaints about slop even when the whole point of /wng/ is slop. RIfag was adding kindling to the fire but he wasn't the one that set it.
>>24851902>"reached" twice in short period>a typoAnswering your question, I can see what's going on. I think the details slow down the text a bit, but certain sentences have oompf to them.>Fynn tossed a few coins to the cashier and left the storedid he count them tho?
>>24852531You shouldn't. Better think twice about having such dissident thoughts. Start with the Greeks and finish with the Bible. You don't need anything else.
>>24852574I believe that the /wg/ anon who kept shitposting was the Gong Farmer anon under a different name, and indeed part of the most egregious RI posting I ascribe to him. Not because I believe he was solely responsible, but to insult him by associating their prose with his.
>>24852551story
People are far more interested in plot, stories, and characters than prose. Prose is like graphics in a video game or CGI in a movie.
>>24852304deliver.t.god
>>24852601>plot, stories, and characterswhat hooks the readers>prosewhat keeps them reading
>>24852606prose doesn't keep readers reading lol
>>24852564>linking straight to chapter to fish views>author notes crammed full of adsI'd give you 0.5 stars, but you don't even deserve that.
/wng/ didn't fall apart because of some RIfag or some /wg/fag kept posting dumb shit. It fell apart because idiots kept replying to the trolls as if it were their first day on the web. Do better.
>>24852564Really happy for you and a little jealous you've had explosive success. Good job.
>>24852564>too lowbrow for /wg/>too highbrow for /wng/>just in time for the mergerWelcome.
>>24852637Yeah mate I'm sure "replying to the trolls" justified a thread being deleted.Have you seen this board? It's full of trolls who don't read what they're posting about, never modded.
>>24852606In my experience, readers come for the ideas, and stay for the characters. Is your experience genuinely different?
>>24852644!!>>24852642is this Kuwa? I hope yours goes well, too. jiggles misses you >>24852627Hm! I cut the tape to let you all in early, and you treat me like you're the bouncer.
How good or bad is this prose? Mind you it's a romantasy webnovel on rr, but looking at modern books it feels like the quality of writing is high.
>>24852529>What settings do you have characters in?Urban hellholes and speculative horror, vaguely related to what you'd read on New Weird.>How do you let the reader know a character is gay?I make sure characters never define themselves as gay, but readers can get the idea based on a co-depedent friendship they have with another character, progressing a realized relationship over time. They're not spawned with the intent to not be straight, but going through a lot of dire circumstances eventually stitch them together.
>>24852651generals are always modded differently to normal threads. Especially if that general is by far the most active thread on the board, anons are creating new generals way before the page limit, and the content of the thread is mostly off-topic shit. Clearly, it's effective too; /wg/ and /sffg/ don't have significantly more posts because of it.
>>24852443if you want an autistic writing specific gadget and it has to be separate from a normal multifunction pc/tablet, surely one of those digital typewriters that have been trendy recently would be better than trying to do handwriting on a fucking touchscreen.
>>24852680It's pretty shit.
>>24852708Effective in killing the board.
>Congratulations, your book “(disable your adblock later to find out the title)” is now live and available for purchase in the Kindle Storego me
>>24852637Half of the replies were dumb 'statistics' supposedly showing what was posted/popular on RR at the time. /wg/ fag was just pulling them out of his ass. In other words trolls were the least of /wng/ problems.
>>24852531>cultivation without taoism/qigongMight as well be a completely different genre at that point, since those are the core of its identity. Just using it as a flavorless powerup system without the deep ties to traditional insane religious stuff would be a massive loss. Although that seemingly doesn't stop lots of royalroad authors from doing "litrpg cultivation" where qi is a glorified vidya xp system or some shit. I wouldn't try it unless you're willing to go all out and write your own schizo deep lore based on catholic history & apocrypha (or maybe norse paganism).
>>24852531you could copy the Chinese in this case and crib the power system they use in their “wizard” wns, since they’re basically reskinned cultivators
>>24852713and that's the best royal road has to offer.
>>24852737Any examples of such prominent/notable/good chinese wizard novels? I haven't heard of any
>>24852531It's simple. Replace all mentions of Daoism with Platonism. Replace all mentions of the Dao with Eidos.wah lah
>>24852739Not really.>>24852531Virtuous Sons is Greek. There's Arthurian cultivation. There's more generic magic cultivation. I've seen novels that essentially have cultivation being done through a bonded dragon. And so on.
>4chan ads are priced based on impressions and not click-throughsLooks like I'm only spending 25 instead of the planned 50.
>>24852743A story of a villain, Fang Yuan who was reborn 500 years into the past with the Spring Autumn Cicada he painstakingly refined. With his profound wisdom, battle and life experiences, he seeks to overcome his foes with skill and wit! Ruthless and amoral, he has no need to hold back as he pursues his ultimate goals. In a world of cruelty where one cultivates using Gu - magical creatures of the world - Fang Yuan must rise up above all with his own powerDaoist gu
>>24852651Yes, you deserved to have your thread banned. You are vermin. Shitkissers.
>>24852753>I've seen novels that essentially have cultivation being done through a bonded dragonThat’s so gay. Why can’t dragons just be big fuck off evil lizards with wings?Seriously, I can’t remember the last story I read that actually had classic dragons.
>>24852753>Virtuous SonsTerrible prose, worse than even chinese mtl.
>>24852767All cultivation is bad. All webnovels are bad. Dickering about quality is like discussing which corpse in a mass grave is rotting the fastest.
>>24852708>wg/ and /sffg/ don't have significantly more posts because of it.lol why lie /wg/ is about 1000% more active now
>>24852765Dragons is a fetish for w*bn*vel readers, same as 300 year old millionaire vampires for women audiences.
>>24852769What do you even read then?
what if the new janny not only hated /wng/, but also /wg/ and planned to ruin both generals by destroying /wng/?at this point i’m tempted to write a poem trashing this new janny in the tradition of the ancient romans
I love poems
>>24852564Um what the fuck birdanon, is there something you want to tell us
>>24852763Anon this question was specifically about NON Daoist NON cultivation novels. Get the fuck out of here with your gu.
>>24852785If they delete both generals that's our cue to spam the board with a new thread for every post we would've made on /wg/
>>24852743if you can tolerate MTL, you’ll find many examples on MTL crawler sites though I’d advise detoxing afterward with a judicious reading of Moby-Dick or some other great work.if you can tolerate shitty prose, then Warlock of the Magus World created, i believe, 80% of the tropes common to all wizard novels posted after it.
>>24852803If they delete /wg/ then I guess we will have to move over to /wolw/ (a neat little general with friendly posters)
>>24852771It is more active, but it is not 500+ posts-a-day active, and one must consider the initial burst of /wng/ getting banned again for today's thread (which is still not doing wng numbers)
>>24852804I hate mlt, webnovels, roaylroad, cultivation! I hate illiterate scumbags that have infested /wg/! I hate you!
>>24852708Turns out half of /wng/ posters were bot farms
>>24852708Why did they delete the most recent thread? There was nothing off about it.
>>24852834go to your containment thread then
/wng/ does not belong here. I speak for all of our community when I say we don't condone any literary form outside Kindle paperback and Clarkesworld literary magazine.
>>24852839new janitor-san-kun was given an amount of training proportional to his salary, and developed as clear an understanding of the rules as can be expected from that
>>24852854>/wng/ does not belong heremods disagree.
>>24852858Oh? What is the salary for a janitor?
>>24852771Don't confuse activity with quality. Though you just inadvertently gave us a vivid view into the /wng/ mindset.
>>24852839All /wng/ threads have been nothing but relentless offtopic shitposting for weeks. And now you continue the same here when you should just kill yourself.
>>24852860This is my thread, so I don't care what /wng/fags or jannies think. I'm not sharing my literary excerpts with uneducated people who think prose can be reduced to a bunch of rpg numbers. Go make your thread on /v/ or /vg/; again, we don't care about your fate, just that you disappear from sight.
>>24852817It's funny to see how much nicer /wolw/ is than the others so far. I guess literary writers just have more class. It might be slower but quality beats quantity.
>>24852871You weren't supposed to ask that question...
>>24851315>A thread for writing literary fiction, non-fiction, and other genres, and discussion of literary craft. It's just another /wg/
>>24852879How will you enforce this? You may as well ask Milton’s Satan to reflect upon his sins and repent; command Ahab to cease hunting the White Whle and return to his regular duties; and tell Gatsby to give up on Daisy.
>>24852860Licking shit off of mod feet is a very /wng/ behavior.
>>24852879>I'm not sharing my literary excerptsThank god
>>24852161There's an episode of Kitchen Nightmares on YouTube, La Riviera. The chef is skilled but he goes too crazy adding stuff to his dishes. That's what your writing feels like- you're not a bad writer, it's just too much.
>>24852890It's not "another" /wg/, /wg/ is defined by the absence of /wng/, who have no taste, are shitcolored, and ruin threads with spam.
he's having his meltie again
I want to write a story about a programmer that gets isekai'd into a magical world where magic can be programmed. How autistic can I get with the magical system? Can I include actual snippets of magical code that's written using rune symbols or is that too much? Of course, I'll gradually build it up so even non-programmers can understand. My character will reverse engineer everything from scratch and start with basic spells and work his way up to building a magical computer device that makes him OP as fuck.
>>24852876Instead of sitting all day on 20 worthless posts this now has 200 posts with nobody actually discussing writing.The thread's pointless lol.
>You must be approved by a committee of leftist jews and women of the publishing industry, your story must contain at least one faggot, black woman, and a character that everyone refers to as 'them', or you're not a real writer Fuck off retard. I can get the litfic elitism, to a point, but where do tradpub genresloppers get this attitude from is beyond me. You're writing the same slop as the rest of us. Get off your high horse
>>24852928Don't be silly. There will be no such meetup because /wng/ does not exist. Nor for that matter were there ever any people on it when it did exist.It is not a legitimate venue of interest. Nobody actually reads web novels. As you can clearly see from the current course of events, it consists entirely of bots and liars who just like ruining normal threads.
>>24852940>>24852939how about you anons talk about writing instead of engaging in this meaningless shitfit?let me start: is it better to plan out the sentence-rhythm of your paragraphs, consciously limiting the length of each sentence so as to form an aesthetically pleasing and well constructed paragraph, or is losing yourself to the “flow” and writing in such a state generally superior to the former?
>>24852926I'd read that. Autistic litrpg progression and crafting of spells, possibly inscribing gear with magical arrays. Just make sure plot is good, there is no harem and no females.
>>24852926Do you know the first thing about programming? If the people living in your isekai world know that magic can be programmed, and have had access to it for generations, why would your MC guy have any advantage?
I read web novels
>>24852940I read at least 5 chapters of Reverend Insanity every day.
>>24852957I'm so sorry
>>24852949Because most people are illiterate peasants, the internet doesn’t exist, nor does the printing press, and magic knowledge is hoarded and kept secret. Just the idea of creating a compiler to use more abstract programming (magic) languages is probably not something that would occur to 99% of people in such a scenario, and the few who did figure it out would gatekeep the fuck out of it. Meanwhile some CS sperg who has memorized every leetcode algorithm has the collective effort of millions of people behind him.
>>24852940wouldn't be surprised if he got a tempban for thatif so, the irony that hes the first one hahahaha
lol
>>24852926>>24852980This can be either executed as a very unique or very boring idea, no in-between. Think of the same concept, but instead of programming it's geometric formulas, that's how it sounds to the average lawman so calibrate around that.
I'm seeing double here! Six /wg/ threads!
>>24852980Why would that be the case? So access to literal magic that is programmable (and therefore probably accessible/not bound to bloodlines and innate abilities) didn't have any impact on civilization and technology? You are aware half the shit we use nowadays in CS are ideas we picked up from math nerds that lived hundreds of years ago, right? Also, knowing fizzbuzz and being able to write a compiler are two different skills. Don't forget that your guy also doesn't have access to google, stack overflow or an llm, so his ability to pick up the knowledge of millions is non-existent. Try to write a simple CRUD REST endpoint for storing some data in a json file in assembly or cobol or something, without looking anything up on the internet, and you'll know what I mean. A compiler is a million times harder
>>24853012Eight if you include /wolw/False flagging operation is go, now they'll wait for the janny with the /wng/ hatebonner to act
>>24853012>/wg/fags being banned>/wg/fags also getting /wg/ banned for dupe threads
>>24852926So, the Disney series "The Owl House"?
>>24852936>the thread's pointlessWell, it is now. You confuse activity with quality. /wng/ is r-selection; /wg/ is K-selection.
>>24853026>>/wg/fags being banned[X] doubt
>>24853034Is that a kino man reference jej
>>24853021>Why would that be the case?Because it's the premise for the story and whatever is necessary to make it true, will be true. That's how fiction works you fucking retard.This kind of spergery is very reminiscent of the tards that screech about minovsky particles and giant robots, as if you're meant to create a real, physics based explanation for fantastical/impossible things.
>>24853025Even in the worst case scenario, webnovels authors still cannot be removed from the board. It's a closed maze for falseflaggers because they're just lowering the chances that we'll ever sit apart again.
>>24853012/wolw/fag having a melty and creating fake /wg/ threads.
>>24851513My entire field of reference for webnovels are narou and novelpia. Where do I go when i am clearly not interested in any shit from royalroad that takes the most influence from qidan?
>>24853061Reverend Insanity (unironically)
4300 words written for the writathon today!It's two chapters, so I'm going to post one and then keep the other one in reserve in case something happens and I need a day off.I need to actually do shoutout swaps but I'm nervous to reach out to authors I'd actually want to shout out.
>>24853061Try Scribblehub
>>24853062That's a work from qidan bro>>24853065Ain't they only about smut and bots?
How do I stop writing myself into a corner?
>>24853079decide the solution first and build a problem around it
>>24853050If you want to write a story about magic that has programming--a logical structure--even go as far as to include fictional code snippets in your writing, but then make your entire worldbuilding completely retarded, then suit yourself.I don't mind action movies where hackers smash at their keyboards to hack government secrets or whatever, but if something is central to your plot, like hacking, or fencing, or martial arts, you need to investigate it. And if it's this fictional magic system you came up with yourself, then you need to actually think things through about what kind of world such a magic system could realistically create. What you're talking about isn't called "fiction", it's called a plot hole.
>>24853079work backwards/outlineif you know where you are going, you can't get lost
>>24853061Read Worm.
>>24853083>>24853092But I never know what to do until I've stumbled forward pantsing. Should I write, then outline, then rewrite?
>>24853086>Ok, but why would they use giant robots instead of just using tanks and jets? They are much bigger targets. This doesn't make sense at all. >NO THOSE EXPLANATIONS DON'T COUNT>You shouldn't write Sci-Fi if you can't provide engineering schematics and prove the effectiveness of mechas in real life combat.kill yourself immediately, crab
What if I wrote a webnovel where the MC's main love interest was his child bride and they had lots of sex together?
>>24853103That would be copyright infringement
>>24853097Take the end of your story and think about 3 or 4 general steps to get there. That's all the "outlining" you need if you want to avoid real/extensive outlining.
>>24852980Read Reverend insanity, read other xianxia. Pay attention to formation path. In other xianxia formations is literal programming, RI has best examples of using formations to fight enemies, defend, travel, investigate. Don't fall for limited western magic systems.
>>24853099If it's an action flick/rule of cool thing, I don't mind. But if your MC is a Lockheed Martin or Raytheon genius engineer frozen in time, here to advance the local's war waging powers, then he better start asking those questions himself, and there better be some explanation like magic alien tech suits we barely understand that synchronize with the human pilot.
so is /wng/ officially dead?
>>24853107MT isn't even my favorite isekai but RR sloppers hate it because it doesn't have the big number going up they crave. The bar is six feet under in the west and I can't make millions off of it like you can in the east.>filenameYou have been mindbroken by the Jews.
>>24853125Alien tech suits aren't a real explanation. Give me a real explanation.
>>24853049Dear God, you people are insufferably moronic...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory
>>24853129Pedophiles belong on a cross.
>>24853130This but unironically, when people that post >>24853086 actually mean >>24853125 I can't actually parse that because I internalize criticism horribly and shut down thinking of myself as a worthless failure, devoured alive by crabs. Please be nicer when you try to offer critique, first impressions can kill.
>>24853128/w(n)g/ is alive and well.
>>24853131>>24853133>you people are insufferably moronicand a tip tip to you, my good gentlesir
>>24853132Like Our Lord and Savior who died for our sins? His mom was like 12 you know.
>>24853132>/wolw/ tranny is now briging p*dos into /wg//wg/ is truly dead.
>>24853134oh thats alright then
>>24853130Okay, retard>>24853133My point is, if you want to autistically develop a magic system that is based on programming, then that is your main selling point, and you need to think things through. If what you want is to write about an OP MC that is just like you, but he gets all the bitches and is the bestest at everything ever, then write that, and don't bother with the rune code.
>>24853160That's not a real explanation. Give me a real explanation.
>>24853163Why is that not a real explanation?
>>24853169Why would it be a real explanation? It doesn't explain it right. You should give me a real explanation.
>>24853177It is a real explanation, you're just to dumb to understand it.
>>24853128just make it again and see if it gets deleted again honestly
>>24853163Okay, so there was this rich alien, right, and he wanted to make giant fighting robots, because they were cool, and he came with this idea to his other rich alien buddy, who owned a weapons manufacturing company. But he told them that this idea was retarded, that the robots are less efficient than jets and tanks, and they make much bigger targets and his idea made no sense at all. But he wouldn't take no for an answer. So they had a row, and then ended up making a bet: they'd drop these super advanced robots on a relatively primitive planet, and see if the locals could, in 100 years, make weapons that could match them: and the weapons manufacturer alien guy said they'd probably be tanks and jets. And that's why everyone is fighting with giant robots. The bet was like 10-20 years ago, and the humans didn't have the time yet to reverse-engineer a counter-weapon. See how that makes a lot more sense than people living with programmable magic for thousands of years, and yet their world is somehow the 9th century, Western Europe, but with the occasional wizard?
>>24853204That's not a real explanation though. Real giant robots would still lose to missiles and bombs even if aliens made them. You shouldn't write Sci Fi if you can't explain it.
Any feedback on this stand-alone sentence I'm crafting? It will be used for contextualizing a list of music>On a sticky afternoon beyond Cairo, in Qalyub, on the second floor of a crumbling hostel, beneath a window on a hard bed, in underwear thinking of Katrya, holding my shortwave radio, compulsively tuning — I tried to repress a time I'd one day cherish — lingering after midnight on a wavelength I kept returning to, night after night after backgammon games with old men in backstreet baladi bars, trickling down quiet morning streets, broken and ecstatic over Katrya, with my yellow shortwave radio, attuned to invisible signals from a soothing unknown.
>>24853216Are you pregnant? You've missed a few periods there.
I don't get how people write long scenes. I'll introduce the situation, some thoughts, some dialogue, and it's only 500 words
>>24853128I was thinking about making "/apu/ — Alternate Publishing General" for writing and reading both self-pub and web.
>>24853144Very evocative and dusty
>>24853234>some dialogueYou gotta have your characters argue with each other. Easy wordcount buff, and readers like it.
>$APU crypto scammers on /wg/Have we fallen this far? Is it truly over?
>>24853215No, what you're saying is not a real explanation. That's like saying if a modern company actually made a humanoid robot with enough budget it would lose to an 18th century canon. It might be less efficient than making jets or tanks, but it would be much stronger than the tech from a long time ago. That's not a real explanation, and you should stop commenting if you can't even figure that one out.
>>24853234a scene is a dramatic unit like chapters and need to be structuredfollowing a general outline of >Opening Image - Setup - Inciting Incident - Rising Tension/Action - Climax - Closing Imageshould get you to 700-1200 words
>>24853234Nothing wrong with 500 words. I'm writing a chapter right now that's 500 words so far and it's minimal but says a lot about the pov's situation and where they're heading after this chapter. I'm only expecting this scene to last like maybe 500 more words and then it's on to the next chapter, but I feel readers will know they won't see him again as a pov for a long time.
Knowledge is taken for granted these days. People don't automatically know things, you've just gotten accustomed to having almost all of human knowledge at your fingertips. The recipe for black powder is bat shit, smelly rocks, and charcoal, but nobody figured that out for a long ass time. Even when they did, they didn't figure out how best to use it for hundreds of years.
>>24851315>>24852999
>>24853220underrated comment
>>24853259Anons have the numbers to reach bump limit in these threads under 12 hours, so either choose to:A) hijack that new falsefalg /wg/ thread and get it to bump limit to make another /wg/ thread earlyB) immediately make another /wg/ thread and leave that falseflag /wg/ thread stuck at <10 replies, ensuring their illegitimacy priming them for deletion before ours
>>24853259All me :)
>>24852279They should go back to the RR forums since the only thing they do here is promote their own slop
>>24852266If you hadn't abused your posting powers you'd still be allowed to post OPs and wouldn't have to stick to premade threads
>>24852449Bodied that larper
>>24852564>>24852627>harpyfag sell out NOO you were supposed to be the one who would elevate Royal road slop into something good, not become another grifter
>>24852651When more than half the post are replying to bait and and off-topic drama, yes
>>24853220Anon! how did you know?!
>>24852839>There was nothing off about it.Were you even on the last thread? More than half the post were the moralfag and the chinkspammer flinging shit at each other
>>24852876This is true but let's not pretend /wg/ was a quality general either It had become the equivalent of a general chat on trooncord with one or two excerpts (a lot of which were repeated from previous threads because everyone ignore them JFL) peppered here and there.And need I remind you that most of the post from the last serious /wg/ thread (before webniggers started raiding us) were you retards goofing around with a fucking IQ calculator?
>>24853337Anon, would you rather be underpaid or overrated?
>>24853390That IQ calculator really triggered the below average intelligence writers ITT
>>24853395Mentalities like this are why /wng/ and /wg/ belong apart.
>one five star rating pumped me 30,000 ranks on RRWhew. It's crazy how important those first few ratings are.
>>24853401I'd rather have profit be a motivator than whatever autistic shit others come up with to give meaning to their lives
>>24853395Overpaid
>>24852266Talk about Reverend Insanity
>>24853131Don't answer to him, the K-trannyman is their equivalent of Gardnertranny
>>24853236This might actually workCheck the catalog and see how many off-topic frog threads there is. Jannies don't delete those
>>24853395I rather be overpaid AND underappreciated
>>24853416That was be btw You're welcome :)
>>24853467thanks love u bb~
>>24852546How so? Do you judge based on things like trademark or the character still being used by the creator's estate?
>>24853423That's because you have no soul.
When did /wng/ became so faggy? I remember that the thread that got banned from porn spam got some cringy ERP attempts Same with the cutieposter or post 24853491 like this Part of me thinks the ones behind the general being deleted were from /trash/
>>24853657The soul doesn't exist
According to goodreads I published a couple of book back in the early to mid 1800s
>>24853667>>24853667>>24853667
Bump limit reached. Falseflag thread saged. New thread created.COME TO THE REAL POST-MERGE /W'G/ THREAD ANONS: >>24853679
why are there 5 writing generals up
>>24852161crazy depressing outcome ngl. losing hope in the world rn. im crashing tf out dude.
>>24853390I still vastly prefer that to the feminized personal drama that was previously confined to /wng/. You really need to go back.
>>24853662You are not thinking; you are merely being logical. The mind has two hemispheres for a purpose.
>>24853685>my writing isn't what I want it to be>NOOOOO I'm losing hope in the entire world REEEEEYet another shining example of why /wng/ers need to go back. You can pop estrogen pills like they're Cheetos if you want, but do it far, far away from us.
>>24853684Either the chink spammer wants to see every writing general nuked or /wg/fags would rather lost their general than having to share it with /wng.jeets
>>24853697>The mind has two hemispheres for a purpose.literally debunked pseudo science
>>24853694>>24853702just go to your containment thread alreadyyou think you're getting revenge by shitting up the thread but /wng/ was so flooded with trolls 24/7 that you really aren't noticeably affecting anythingor fight the good fight. honestly doesn't matter
>>24853702god you're dumb
>xer thread got deleted OHNONONO HAHAHA/wng/sisters... Did we got too cocky?
>>24853745>/wng/sisters... Did we got too cocky?not cocky enough, in fact
>>24853745Come home /wng/ brothers and sisters. /wg/ will always be your home.
Make /wng/ on page 10 of this one but swap web novel for serialized fiction /sfg/
>>24852637It fell apart because jannies deleted the new threads. Maybe if they had moderated the spammer in the first place it wouldn't have happened.>>24852680It conveys what's happening, but not particularly well. The sentences are all over the place. Take the first line. It would read much better as:>On the second day it was Luna's turn to lie in bed. She was in so much pain that she could not move at all. The other sentences could be improved in similar ways.>The old lady went into the room, asking in concern. Whose POV is this written in? If it's Luna's then it should be "came into the room".There's a bunch of telling in the conversation as well, but maybe that's fine for brevity.
Chapter whipped up over course of today, lemme have your guys thoughts. Only about 1.6k words. Trying out a new paste site but I think I'll stick to rentry because it doesn't seem to format markdown text (at least straight from Scrievener) and I can't edit them after publication.https://sharetext.io/8c00a9c3
>>24853792The spammer is likely making the new threads and self-deleting them. It's not like jannies to delete threads as quick as three minutes on a slow board
>>24853684Web novels are having their reckoning. Nobody likes them or wants them in their threads, but mods are deleting web novel general threads so they're being shoved in with other people who don't want them around.
>>24853811It's pretty good however the dialogue is awful. Why write these retarded half sentences? they are horrible and feel like they were written by a 12 yo.
>>24852627are you the one who says it's inaccessible andelitist too?
>>24853849/wg/ is a webnovel general and nobody is deleting it. Webnovels are the future and there is nothing you can do to change that.
>>24853868>Webnovels are the future and there is nothing you can do to change that.Yes, in much the same way that the future of the human race is short, brown, and 65 IQ.
>>24853859Good question, but unfortunately, I have no good answer.
>>24853811>milord Stopped reading right there
>>24853871Survival of the fittest is a bitch.
>>24853849>Nobody likes them>most popular thread by far
>>24853875It's ok ... as long you fix your mistakes.
>>24853881Being continuously spammed by a discord group isn't really indicative of popularity.
>>24853880Yes, cockroaches are indeed more suited to survival on this planet than we are, and shall long out live us. I say "us" referring to the actual humans, not you lower primates.
>>24853885>>24853888janny's pissing on your head and you're lapping up the droplets
I knew it was inevitable that litfictards would have a sperg fit over webnovels being blatantly more successful and popular than their trash but I didn't expect it to be this spectacular and hilarious
>new /wg/ got deleted>new /wng/ got deleted too>jannies are probably nuke both generals Should I make a thread for us in /trash/? At least until the janny stops seething btw it will be a thread for /wng/chads only, /wg/ pseuds need not apply
>>24853885>anon realizes the facts point to the opposite of his thesis>immediately resorts to MUH DISCORD TRANNY CABALUH OH MELTY
>>24853907>TrashNo, fuck off
>>24853907I'd rather have a thread in infinitychan /lit/ if I'm being honest.
>/vt/ranny is a also a /wng/jeet kek
>>24853888You will read webnovels and you WILL like it.
>>24853907Nah, I want to get on the irc and question the jannies about this decision. Does anyone know their channel?
>>24853925https://wiki.rizon.net/index.php?title=4chan_irc
>>24853916>infinitychan Never heard of that one before, I'm a newfag doe Is it good? I've heard almost all altchans are even bigger honeypots than this one
>>24852681Where can i find it? I wanna judge t.straightfag
>24853925>Nah, I want to get on the irc and question the jannies about this decisionUh oh, /wng/ sistas, we're in trouble now
>>24853931The one that has (dot)moe in the url.
>>24853578I judge trademarked characters under disney, say Scrooge Mcduck. Created by Carl Barks and cast by many others
>>24853928I got filtered by the registration guide
>>24853958>check it out >pedo site KYS
>>24853979Crisis averted.
>>24853979>zoomies don't know how to use IRC No wonder you retards haven't fixed this shitshow or why you're stucked writing webnovel slop
>>24853846I don't think so, in the APU thread someone mentioned a webnovel and his post was deleted
You're all still hanging out in this dying thread? lmao, I even made another /wg/ at the proper time so you'd have someplace to stay while I conduct my /wolw/ experiment.
>>24853986
>>24853718>hurr durr pseudoscienceAre you stupid or something?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateralization_of_brain_function
>>24853723>>24853738Just pointing out that you're the problem here. I'm not wrong.>>24853849Easily solved by moving to a more appropriate board, e.g. /trash/.
>>24853881Activity is not the same as quality, and you know it.>>24853901We don't care about your definition of success–we care about how obnoxious you are.>>24853907I wholeheartedly approve of /wng/ moving to somewhere more in line with your demonstrated awful personalities, e.g. /trash/.
>>24854016>stuckedesl kun...
>>24854140When you're too ESL, even for a fellow ESL...
>>24854016I'm the guy who originally brought it up and frankly I'm too lazy. I was lurking #4chan 24/7 when 4chan was offline earlier this year but honestly it's a pain to get in and remember where I wrote down my nickname password.I'd rather put that effort towards my writathon fiction, already up to 5 followers! I know I need to get into the forums and arrange shoutout swaps but, again, too lazy. I'd rather stack backlog chapters so I have something to throw at my paying patrons (at least two chapters ahead of RR).
>>24853925This happens a lot with new janny/mod faves for some reason.They hire all these new guys, at great cost, and then don't even bother to check if they're modding properly or being insane and trying to enforce board culture changes.Ofc it would help if any of the OP's said what message they got when the threads were removed and if they got a ban.
>>24854212I got a warning for "off topic"
>>24854228Yeah it's a weird grudge then. Probably not even someone who's aware of what goes on in the thread, just an outerlit poster trying to be a snob since the catalog is full of offtopic or pseduo on-topic threads
>>24854232I got banned for posting a RR link when the context was a guy asking about stories with robots in them, so I linked one I really liked. It was a whole 7 days so I was bit a miffed and told him if we can't even share free stories, either our own or non-anons, then maybe it's time for both /wg/ and /wng/ to go. I pointed out I was kind of aware of their MO where they just look at the report at face value and don't actually read the room, and said these threads were for this purpose of sharing with fellow writers and readers. I was unbanned thankfully. There definitely was someone trying to weaponize reports that way (I even said this in the appeal as well) and I imagine from the stretched-then janny manpower on /lit/, blanket deleting these threads is easier for them than simply dealing with all these individual reports.
>>24854245>>24854228I suppose we have no choice but to bring this up on the IRC.
>>24854140>>24854143Yeah I'm Serbian, at least I do know how to use IRC unlike you zoomgroid
>>24854266>Serbianoh no no no no no no no
>>24854266>Serbian
Any books or advice on how to write in the airport novel style? I’ve been enjoying Lee Child, Michael Crichton, and pretty much every other of these boomer thriller novels. There’s a love for life and an excitement to explore the world that I find refreshing.It’d be cool to bring this sentiment over to fantasy.
>>24854708Read Iliad if you haven't already. It'll improve your voice, like, up by 1,000,000%, it's crazy.t. just finished it and started on Odyssey now. I also thoroughly enjoyed every last dunc (frank) book, also.
