>>24943213
I trying to make a cultivation novel with 108 OP antagonists, but so far i could only come up with 72 "unique" powers (some overlap but i think i can make it work)

I need unconventional but cool powers
i didn't notice we were on page 10, no wonder it was slow

>>24943213
>Anime in OP
Uh oh!

>>24943034
>but writing as a skill is both 'just write more' AND 'just read more'
Writing more doesn't even make you better at writing, it's not a mechanical skill like drawing.
If you can't effectively self-critique it's kinda worthless. You see this a lot with people like fanfic authors who write for decades and still end up drastically worse than people who randomly decide to start writing one day.

>>24943219
72 is enough, you can vaguely link it to the 72 Earthly Fiends.

>>24943244
>You see this a lot with people like fanfic authors who write for decades and still end up drastically worse than people who randomly decide to start writing one day.
This happens for all artists, skills, disciplines.
Writing isn't purely mechanical but there very much is a practice requirement, it's not purely knowledge. So many authors tout the '1 million word rule' and insist you don't just study writing endlessly for a reason.
I see what you're saying though. What do you call something that isn't mechanical but not purely knowledge based either?

>>24943252
The word for it is "art."
Blacksmithing is an art.
Writing is an art.
Painting is an art.
Sculpting is an art.
There's an element of skillfully doing along with an element of knowledge.

>>24943219
72 is enough. 40 was a number I was trying to hit until I realized that it's okay to leave a lot of the powers a mystery. Makes the world feel less contrived and more open for future exploration.

>>24943245
>>24943282
>72 is fine
Seems like a waste not to have the full Suikoden roster...

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Any other /wng/ darlings who are actually just ripping off a pre-existing story?

>>24943296
Is this a fanfic of a video game or based on Japanese mythology? Google is only showing the video game. If you're doing a fanfic I don't think you need to do much at all in-terms of the magic system.

>>24943296
Guy on a literature board who talks about Water Margin by referencing Suikoden

>>24943304
Nah, i just needed a shitload of OP antagonists and the 108 stars of destiny sounds pretty badass, then i found out it was based on Water Margin, which was even better

>>24943312
I'm personally not a fan of arbitrarily tacking on references (especially mythological/theological ones) for simple rule of cool but hey a lot of people find it interesting. I still think 72 is enough for antagonists.

>>24943263
Don't forget the element that allows the work to resonate with people on an emotional/intellectual level in a way that can't be scientifically quantified. Also known as soul.

>>24943333
Excellent point and excellent post number.
Things that can be quantified and rules based are sciences.
The rest are arts.
Mechanics and statics are sciences.
Architecture is an art that relies on mechanics and statics (among other sciences).

>>24943298
I liked that webcomic, never read the novel, he slowly goes insane for being stuck constantly redoing everything over and over again because he has a shit class and dies all the time

ok what kind of magic do I give my mc that is cool and unique without being the cookie cutter cool and unique

>>24943406
Give him a low powered form of magic so he has to climb up and prove his worth through superior tactics and skill.

>>24943406
Earth elemental powers to dig up ores and gems and all sorts of other goodies from deep underground on a super earth.

Which name should I use for my MC? A western name( I don't like it since it's too corny), a japanese name (I don't like it since it's too weeb), a chinese name (I prefer this the most since it's the middle ground). Thoughts?

>>24943424
What is your story about? If it's a martial arts series stick to asian names. The name should be setting appropriate.

>>24943424
Depends on your setting and the birth place and/or ethnicity of your character. Duh.

>After Genderswap Reincarnation I Raised the Strongest Slopper Edition
what did he mean by this

>>24943432
>>24943433
Sorry I forgot the details. It's a litrpg + Isekai + timeloop + battles. Kind of like Jujutsu Kaisen/Hunter x Hunter combined with Re:zero + litrpg

>>24943424
Assuming the genre is xianxia or wuxia.
>western name
only okay if you are doing an isekai or actually worldbuilding a western cultivation/martial arts culture.
>Japanese name
Only okay if your setting is actually Nipponese enough.
>Chinese
Should be the standard choice for xianxia stories but other than that I don't see why anyone would use Chinese names in a story that's not written for the Chinese readership in Chinese language.

i will now be taking jap LN (translated, of course) recs because i am in a "download random shit off nyaa" funk
please be useful and tell me fun stuff to read

Anyone got a recommendation for a male OP MC story? Something like The Storm King?

Worldbuilding autists give me guidance. I want a world I can potentially stick with for a long time.
Its the typical demon lord and hero kind of setting. What kind of cool shit should I put in my world? I'm at the point of needing to draw continents and islands.

>>24943459
If you like edge, Saga of Tanya the Evil.
If you like cute and funny, Didn't I Say To Make My Abilities Average?!, or anything by FUNA
What're you into? I've read most of what gets officially translated (less so these days, a few years ago I'd say I'd read everything).

This is a public service announcement!
Do not waste time reading 'I'm Not The Hero'.
Why?
It's shit. [\spoiler]

>>24943406
Replication ability. The drawback being it costs more mana/ energy the more atomically complex the item is, that or it has a once a day cool down.

>>24943406
The power of Vril, excavated from the depths of his white blood.

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>>24943219
Reverend has a lot of cool and unique powers.
I like Wu Yong, Farewell Friend Wind is cool. Feng Jiu Ge, Bo Qing, and of course Duke Long all have very cool power sets as well. The Verdant Sun Flame Cloak jobber, Purple Mountain True Monarch, Dong Fan Chang Fan and a few others have interesting moves here and there. Obviously all the venerables have cool shit.
Also, wisdom path, human path, and heaven path are all very unique. Food path, luck path, refinement path, dream path, and rule path are interesting too.

Obviously Fang Yuan has a shitload of cool moves.

>>24943298
What do you mean "darlings"? No one here's ever read FFF.

The Art of Gold Digging has pretty well written drama, but her prophetic power ruins the story. Every conflict is solved by her asking her power what to do and she does it. The information she or the reader has is meaningless. So there's no tension and no way for the reader to know how she's going to overcome the next challenge because she doesn't need to either. Need to break some wards? Just do what your power says. Need to do a blood magic ritual? Your power will tell you how to do it. Need to escape a horde of enemies? Your power will tell you the exact path to take.
She's just a complete passenger in her own story. Any time she has a problem she basically just flips the "autopilot" switch and her power solves it.

>>24943542
not that anon but i actually wanted to do this but what the fuck does vril even do it's just vague and fairly generic psychic powers shit

Name three webnovels worth reading from posters in these threads.

>>24943817
It's an extremely niche hobbyist space with maybe 10 authors publicly associating. Basic statistics will tell you that the odds of even one person writing something 'worth reading' here is extremely low. And you want three??

>>24943817
crow anon is nice so it's worth reading to support a real one
even if his story is mid

>>24943821
Nobody here managed to come up with a single line of criticism for my story, while everyone at RR loves it, but it's somehow not even worth consideration here. Meanwhile you guys read some angstic femoid schizo ramblings and gush about their outstanding writing lmao

>>24943854
post your fic right now and I'll come with plenty of criticism

>>24943855
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/119783/fff-class-unlucky-antagonist-villains-origin-story

>>24943855
Yeah, I don't doubt there's a lot of acidic flaming coming, but no thanks

>>24943858
it is a very FFF coded post

>>24943459
Gu Zhen Ren is a good one.

>>24943745
I thought it had a fun setup but five minutes later she was basically a part of the hero's group doing adventures with them.
That's not the way to use that setup interestingly lol

>>24943854
> everyone at RR loves it
All three of them?
> Nobody here managed to come up with a single line of criticism for my story,
It's like trying to parse a 2000 page academic text book in a language you don't understand while walking through a waist deep field of mud. Nothing about it is enjoyable to read. It's honestly one of the most boring and tediously written stories I've encountered on RR.

>>24943854
schizo readers
schizo writers
schizo thread

>>24943733
I have, it's fine!

>>24943459
I'm a spider, so what?
Ascendance of a bookworm
Silent witch
Mushoku tensei
reincarnated as a slime
Abilities average
Saving 80000 gold
Eminence in shadow
Kuma bear
Tsukimichi

On Nyaa, there's a torrent that has practically all officially translated LNs "Officially Translated Light Novels (LNs) v23.01"

>>24943459
there's like 10 good light novels, unfortunately Monogatari is one of them

>>24943745
The author pantsed a great premise and fucked up the execution. The fiction's been dead in the water since like 20 chapters after it started.

>>24943854
>Nobody here managed to come up with a single line of criticism for my story,
You've gotten half a dozen long explanations for why it sucks
"People" on RR call it good because of the filtering effect. 99.9% of people bounce off of it for the reasons we mentioned here, but the 0.1% that remain think it's good and say so to encourage the small, noname author.
Small stories benefit from a much nicer comment section.
The more popular you are, the more demanding the audience, because you start getting normies who have higher standards. Even if those standards are still low compared to tradpub readers. The people reading 100 follower stories on Royalroad are a different breed entirely from a regular reader.

>>24944440
Did you actually think I was the FFF-faggot? Schizo

>>24944490
I was 50:50. He's made equally delusional posts before.

>>24944497
He never fails to include a link to the latest chapter in his shill posts

>>24944440
reading 100 follower stories to the end is the simplest way to ensure you get sent into the world of the story, that's just a simple fact

>>24944490
Also my response still applies to you, even if you aren't FFF.

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>>24943817
FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antagonist.'
Labours of Zucchini.
The Crown and the Rabbit.

>Empress of fire
Started quite good, but then she gets hired in the restaurant and is instantly given a silver spoon. What a waste of time. Literally subverts the entire story by being such a bland resolution to her poverty.

>>24944516
No it doesn't lol

>>24944519
I thought zucchini dumped /wng/ and went somewhere else

Can you be too good at writing for RR's audience?
Like I've been happily reading slop but I'm way harsher on my own writing, even when it's already better than what I read

>>24944605
I can promise you without a shred of a doubt that you're not "too good" for RR. Also that your writing is actually more likely to be doggerel than that of your average RR writer.

>>24943858
The medieval world and modern RPGs are a style that's hard to mesh well and I'll be honest with you the clash is too much for me. I don't think it's bad as a litRPG and you seem to be going off of that but the dialogue alone made me know that historic references were mostly going to be surface level.

>>24944557
No it doesn't.
The theme of the story is sacrifice.
She is willing to sacrifice the silver spoon she was handed by fortune in order to attain power.
It is beautiful storytelling and the author's willingness to stay on the motive of sacrifice makes it a very strong story.

Sadly, shortly after that the writer starts rushing out chapters without editing them anymore, which makes it barely readable to me....

>>24944622
First the anon ain't me. Shame on him.
Second, it's a modern world, not a medieval one. There is internet!
Third, I don't need historical references, 'cause my world has its own history.

What the fuck are you talking about?

>>24944605
Keep in mind that slop is enjoyable and gets reads because it gives readers what they want because that's what they click for. Compromises will have to be made for an audience no matter what you do and as long as it doesn't mess with the core themes of your work you shouldn't be afraid to appease them.

>>24944605
no? bizarre question. a skilled writer should be better at writing slop, not worse. unless they're some sort of savant that can only think on one genre axis
you're more critical of your own work than other people's

>>24943219
I have an antagonist that, in addition to soul magic, can manipulate thoughts and emotions. He has moves like "heavy heart", "regret chains", and "betrayal".

>>24944640
Saw the cover and the HRE being mentioned and I just assumed it would lean more into the historical side of things. I don't really like any of the modern tropes or dialogue but you seem to do them well and is good from that perspective.

>>24944635
She didn't earn her place. Literally didn't even try to go to the poor part of the city, and instead just whined that they wouldn't take her for the high-skill jobs in the nice part of town. Then lands into a position where the owners instantly love her and give her everything she wants just because. What sacrifice is there in giving up something that just landed on her lap?

And the whole lesbian side-arc just sounds fucking stupid and tacked-on.

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>>24944655
I was speaking about the Holy Rolandish Empire.
>modern dialogue.
That's for Royal Road.
You ought to respect the local culture.

>>24944664
>You ought to respect the local culture.
Fair enough. I'm trying to get myself to read contemporary fiction and it's been absolutely miserable. You seem to know your audience well and seem to have everything locked down.

>>24944605
Yes actually. But more about there's just simply dimishing returns with how good quality is from writing+reading fervantly. There's writers who hit RS or best rated and never once read a single book in their entire life(alledgey)

>>24944676
Thanks anon, you should post your story here.
>contemporary fiction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_and_Margarita
Read this anon, and thank me later.

>>24944658
She does try the poorer part, she even tries the brothel, that's where she gets the hint about the restaurant.
The owners love her because they lost their own daughter and see through her shell down to the abused soul, willing to offer her the parental love she never received.

She sees and feels that, but is still willing to sacrifice it for a mere chance at power.
That is still sacrifice, maybe even more so since it is offered by fortune, tempting her to accept a better life and lay off her plan to incinerate the village she was born in.

The temptation is beautifully woven into the theme of the mc daring/begging the gods to interfere with her plan and daring/begging the gods to keep her from doing evil.

The storytelling goes very deep and is thought through to an exceptional degree for a webnovel.

>And the whole lesbian side-arc just sounds fucking stupid and tacked-on.
The GL side-arc is the icing on the cake.
How can you complain about GL and still read stories on rr?
It would be weird if she weren't a lesbian.

>>24944693
>Thanks anon, you should post your story here.
Some day. I'm looking for the best way to publish what I'm working on and currently deciding between multiple things. I don't see it doing well on something like RR.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_and_Margarita
I'm fascinated. I'll see if my library has it and if not I'll order it.

>>24944738
I will eagerly wait.

>>24944728
>she even tries the brothel
she tries the brothel because it's 1 street away from her inn and instantly bails. The inn that by the way she gets a massive feels-good discount on for no good reason, and specifically isn't in the poor part of town despite her supposedly being a poor as fuck country bumpkin.

>owners love her because they lost their own daughter and see through her shell down to the abused soul, willing to offer her the parental love she never received.
There are 1000 of these kids in the big city, and she just happens to luck into it. And the restaurant staff should have kicked her out the second the she tried to enter the building, anyways. She also doesn't even look like the their dead daughter.

>She sees and feels that
She doesn't feel much more than "I'm milking this relationship"

>The temptation is beautifully woven
You mean, she gets another, better option in yet another silver platter

>How can you complain about GL and still read stories on rr?
Because the revelation is awkward as fuck and reads tacked-on.

>>24944758
>>24944728
I read ahead of the spot where I stopped.

She doesn't sacrifice anything. Her adoptive parents in fact recommend her, and they'd be a safety net if she fails. Oh, and of course, she gets the job after a terrible interview.

"Sacrifice"
What a load of bollocks.

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>story has people slaughtered in cold blood
>human experimentation
>child soldiers
>dictatorship
>fascist oppression
>what readers care about:
>"why isn't this character ashamed of being seen naked? It seems implausible"
I just can't with americans

>>24944728
>The owners love her because they lost their own daughter and see through her shell down to the abused soul, willing to offer her the parental love she never received.
Now how convenient is that lmao

>>24944615
shut up cunt

>>24944602
He remarked on the discord before he planned on moving on to different projects after he wrapped up Zucchini

are there any non-Chinese WNs that have had transmigrators other than the MC in the distant past?

>>24944823
Melody of mana

>>24944758
all of this stuff is explained in the story, the list of recommendations she gets, the money and clothes she sets aside so as to not appear too poor, why she get's the discount in the inn etc etc.
If it's too thin for your taste then whatever, I'm not arguing that the author has written a new Oliver Twist, but for a webnovel, all the literary elements come together beautifully to form a whole and reinforce emotions.

>>The temptation is beautifully woven
>You mean, she gets another, better option in yet another silver platter
All the stepping stones are woven into each other, it's not just piled.
The training at the restaurant makes it possible to then apply for the handmaiden, as an example.
And her emotions go way deeper than "I'm milking this relationship". There's a relatable internal conflict explicitly described over at least one paragraph.
It has merit and is beautifully done for a preamble to what I the reader was looking forward to, which was "angry yuri-chick throwing around fireballs killing everyone".
Bit sad I didn't get to that part.

>>24944775
>She doesn't sacrifice anything.
She could remain in a loving home with good folks she's grown to like being around.
Rejecting that is a sacrifice.

I agree it would have been stronger if the owners had cut ties at that point. Maybe the author wanted to emphasize what good people they are, I don't know.
Still works tho.

>>24944823
mine but the readers don't know it yet and the MC isn't a transmigrator

>>24944837
>all of this stuff is explained in the story, the list of recommendations she gets, the money and clothes she sets aside so as to not appear too poor, why she get's the discount in the inn etc etc.
She's supposedly working at half pay, double hours, and her mother is taking all but the tips. She starts the series with 40 bits, which is practically nothing,
and lands in the city a year later with enough money to not appear poor, getting the premium deluxe bus ride with cherry on top (unlike the poor people fighting for bread)
before that,
>gifted an expensive dagger
>gifted an education in reading
>gifted an expensive quill
>gifted an easy murder on her rapist (literally lmao, this 13-year-old twig somehow reaches around and stabs him through the back??)
>gifted a math book
>gets a significant discount in the inn
>gifted a job from heaven from amazing people with amazing connections
>gifted dresses, room and board
>gifted a massive tip from a noble for recommending them cheap wine on her first day
>gifted a massive inheritance
>despite it all, gets gifted a recommendation for the Baron
>flunks the interview, and gets the job anyway
Literally nothing can stop her from the point she decides to leave her home.

>>24944823
a conneticuit yankee in the court of king arthur :)

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Will websloppers read a story that is fundamentally about travelling around and finding yourself as a person?
I don't want to introduce any looming threat or big bad until pretty late in the game, and I'm not even set on that.

>>24944916
You don't need a looming threat or big bad if you keep driving the action forward from one mini-arc to the next.
If your pacing's shit you will need to do mystery box worldbuilding to keep people hooked instead, though

>>24944873
yet all of it is explained in the story, every single point you mentioned.
Even the deluxe bus ride. She actually talks about that before the caravan starts, explicitly explaining why she must save enough to pay the higher fare so as not to starve during the caravan.

I'm not gonna reread it or start quoting from it, but iirc she had about 100 bits when she arrives at the inn.
But again, I don't think it's even relevant if the math doesn't add up to the last bit.

I have no problem with fate bestowing boons, if executed nicely, which it is in this case.
I much prefer an author rely on this device to a write a neat and easy story than desperately trying to rationalize and minutely justify every last little detail and happenstance befalling the mc.
You have to be insanely talented as a writer to pull that off.

So do you know a better villain-story on rr?
Or what are you even arguing against? It was put forward as "one of the best on rr", so which one would you recommend instead?
And no I'm not asking to ridicule it, I'm genuinely looking for stuff to read.

>>24944916
There's a nip translating his story into english and it seemed good enough to get a wholesome review from one of the RR forum regulars, so yeah. I can't get into first-person stories anymore so it wasn't for me thoughbeit.

>>24944946
>genuinely looking for stuff to read.
Same.

I will be writing my own semi-villain story with every story beat justified. Stay tuned on RR approximately a year from now.

>>24944958
>with every story beat justified.
While I was writing my post I was thinking about that and the question if such a story would even be enjoyable to read.....
Even more.....is anything in real life really justified to its last beat?
There is always a lot of rationalization in hindsight, giving meaning to stuff after it's happened, trying to draw dots in a consistent line...stuff like that.

Suspension of disbelief is nothing to be frowned upon and speaking for myself I am more than willing to engage in it as a reader.

If I want realism I can always read a biography....

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is that a heckin RI reference

>>24945019
The power of developmental editing can make it enjoyable to read. Implicit reasoning, foreshadowing, subtext, and such. That is why I will only dump my story once I am done with it; otherwise it just rattles all over the place.

>>24945052
i know people say modern webnovel is just Monte Cristo but sloppified
but there's a shocking amount of influence from russian literature in webnovel tropes

>>24945052
This is an absolutely hilarious misreading of the novel.
And AHouT is not a subtle book.

>>24945052
wtf is this

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>>24945086
chink WN where the MC got isekaied into 1840s russia as a writer

>>24943406
I was going to throw out a ridiculous idea for you but midway though I realized it was genius so now I'm going to keep it for myself.
>>24943424
Bobf Aggot
>>24944642
I think it has less to do with what's good and what's slop, and more to do with the reader's ability. A good writer will expect the reader to be somewhat literate. A slopper wont. This creates a barrier where readers get filtered.

>>24945052
Lermontov was writing the exact opposite of what he wanted to be. He was criticizing the people and society of his time.

Pechorin is brooding and directionless. Fang Yuan is optimistic and driven. Pechorin is a fatalistic nihilist dicking around because he is empty inside. Fang Yuan is an overman, someone who creates his own morals regardless of the rules of society, deriving his own meaning and purpose. The only thing they have in common is that they both do evil shit.

>but fang yuan is an existentialist o algo
GZR constantly glazes Feng Jiu Ge, Spectral Soul, Tie Ruo Nan, Red Lotus, and others because, like Fang Yuan, they are overmen. They create their own morals and meaning apart from the ones thrust upon them by society. He even glazes Duke Long (literal dragon man, btw) who is the last man clinging to the safety and comfort of a once necessary, but now obsolete moral system. It's pretty overt.

>>24945075
Webnovels were popular in Russia WAY before they got popular in the west. I'm pretty sure they created or at least popularized the litrpg genre.
Besides, Russian Lit is broadly influential in all writing.

>>24944946
>>24944958
Anyone "looking for new stuff to read" is only waiting for something within their sphere of reference to hit the megapopular realm.
>>24944916
If it becomes popular enough, yes. /lit/ is full of normalfags who only consume about one book or series per year so it has to be on a bestselling list and approved by other 100IQ-having normalfags.

>>24945165
Why are you talking out of your ass?

>>24945168
>generic derogatory vaguepost
#gottem

>>24945171
No, you're just spouting shit. Why would you come into the one thread where people read metric tonnes of dogshit and claim posters don't read?

So, we have the precepts for succeeding on Royal Road. What about for other sites? I'm planning to publish on Scribblehub because my webnovel wouldn't do well on Royal Road, so I'd appreciate some advice on how to get eyes on my work.

>>24945176
don't act like we don't get tourists who've clearly never touched a webnovel
>am I allowed to do [thing you obviously are allowed to do]
>do people like [thing that is popular]

>>24945189
if it can't do well on RR, your chances fall drastically everywhere else upwards of 99% minimum.

>>24945191
>tourist
Please lurk for at least four more years before posting again, newfag.

>>24945199
It won't do well because I'm writing smut, which will definitely get removed from RR because the smut is actually important to the plot and can't be quarantined to extra chapters on other sites. Otherwise, it's a LitRPG so it would still be meta on RR if I wasn't sure it'd be removed.

>>24945200
the oldfags tend to be the lowest quality posters by far actually so me personally i want more newfags as long as they belong

>>24945220
your only peer is sissekai
enjoy your soul degenerating studies

>>24945226
>no u
What does you being new to 4chan have to do with this discussion?

>>24945176
>>24945191
weird samefag
every rec list is the same megapopular Rising Stars shit

>>24945253
why would I samefag someone disagreeing with me?

>>24945237
i wasn't that same anon and how it relates is literally stated in the post
ironically this is exactly what i mean. people proud of being oldfags are the worst posters on the board by far

I just discovered what Wattpad will and will not allow on their site, as far as explicit sexual content. Wrote a three part series. Very naughty, trust me. Number two and three were very naughty just not as bad as number one. It was over the top explicit. Number two and three seem fine though (for now)

>>24945278
>people discussing literature on the literature board are the worst posters
You are a 14-25 year old newfag destroying every conversation you touch.

>>24945278
u're the one who has derailed the thread into shitflinging because you coulnd't make an ontopic contribution

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>>24945165
then why don't you recommend something great that hasn't hit the megapopular realm?
I'm not gonna start a discussion on "whether I read or not" because that's just inanely retarded...
The mere fact that I'm asking for recommendations already proves that I'm trying to expand my sphere of reference and I'm deliberately asking an 4chan because I like 4chan and the people who are broken enough to frequent it

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I’m sick of LitRPGs. I’m sick of slice-of-life, progression-fantasy bullshit.
I wish Westerners would go back to doing what they do best, which is writing about cool dudes who need to foil the villains’ world-ending schemes while being hunted by half the nation’s army.

I'm more likely to click on a novel that has a sexy AI generated woman on the cover than one that doesn't. It's probably going to be slop, but there's a chance it will be good. Meanwhile the stories without such a cover tend to be full of onions.

>>24944640
>>24944655
>>24944664
Hate this guy like you wouldn't believe

>>24945458
BASED based BASED

>>24944946
nta but why even start her off as a poor girl if shes going to get all these lucky breaks?
Why not just have her be born a noble and then claw her way up from there?

>>24945415
Just go on Amazon then.
RR is a niche, it in no way represents the entirety of western fiction.
You're doing the equivalent of going to an anime convention and complaining there's not enough Star Trek presence

>>24945459
Rude.
Did you even read my story?

>>24945415
Read this
>>24944519

24945415
>Daily /wg/ melty disguised as someone that's ever even read a web novel
Just leave retard. Stop thinking about winnies and you'll stop getting upset.

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>>24945386
Not him but I got you senpai.
Read the comment section on each chapter, too, because there's a lot of good writing critique in it
>chapters stubbed
fug, forgot about that.
Still good stuff in volume two, pirate the first book. It's worth reading. Buy it if you like it.

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>>24945415

>>24945325
you are just proving my point
>>24945328
that was my second post. you are also proving my point

>>24945513
>CIA top sikrit seal team 9000 operator slop

>>24945519
How does you being new to 4chan relate to webnovels and why do you obsess over bringing this up in every single post you make?

>>24945113
His explanation of the russian superfluous man concept is fine but how the fuck did he get Pechorin is Lermontov chuuni self insert from that

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Even the sloppiest winnie slop has it's root in real literature.
at the bare minimum you have to read monte cristo to get how to write feel good stories which is basic skill all good winnie writer have

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>>24945619
No that's this guy
And yeah the covers look exactly like Thors covers but that's just how amazon books are.
It's even worse with romance novels.

>>24945657
Majority of highly read wn authors are ESL.
I doubt any of them have read monte cristo or even Conan the Barbarian pulp. GuiltyThree is Russian so maybe he read John Carter of Mars, they seem to like that series over there for some reason.
Even among westerners I would guess only DCC and WoC authors might have read Monte Cristo.

>>24944742
If I don't remember to do so sorry. Will take me a few months regardless but I have actual readers to get editing from which is nice.

>>24945657
I've never read monte cristo despite even my super normalfag friend telling me he read the entire thing and loved it. I have two okayish fictions on RR.

>>24945657
If you haven't read Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Journey to the West, Water Margin, and Dream of the Red Chamber, you are ngmi.

I wrote a fanfic called Feeding Taylor Swift 78 CheeseBurgers and 1 HamBurger, and I'm currently writing the thrilling sequel, Feeding Taylor Swift 78 Krabby Patties and 1 Chum Burger

Take a gander if you please:

https://archiveofourown.org/series/5474361

>>24945386
Not him and >>24945506 is some kit glove coddled Mary Sue shit.

But if you are after reincarnation slopa -Carve The Ley or low fantasy Occultist
Isekai sloppa - A Soldier's Life or In The Shadow of Mountains
SciFi/ Fantasy slopa - Changeling or Thresholder
Not a real cultivation or xianxia consoomer so any recs you probably already know.

>>24945720
Chapter 1 unironically is a great example of how and when to end a chapter to hook a reader to click next chapter.
Chapter 2 is a good example of how NOT to hook. It's just the conclusion, there's nothing left over. There's no tension at the end because the previous tension (eating the cheeseburgers) is already finished.
One more sentence would have fixed it: "omg now what do I do about the eras toor??"
Chapter 3 has a good hook because Taylor is concerned about getting fat, so now I want to see if that happens (it will, and I will be pleased again)
Chapter 4 also ends with no hook. This is more like two separate stories so far, not a coherent, extended narrative.
Chapter 5 was great for mixing up the formula, but chapter 6's typos finally went over the line for me, and the ending (I won't spoil it) kind of ruined the third part even more than the vore.

Overall I'd rate it 3 stars, taking a star off for typos and a star off for not having a full six chapter narrative. It was more like three separate stories.

>>24945638
>bringing this up in every single post you make?
are you...schizophrenic?

>>24943213
>After Genderswap Reincarnation I Raised the Strongest Player
did anyone read this? that's a pretty one of a kind premise
>MC gets reincarnated as a girl back in time
>has to groom/raise his own past self(?) into an OPMC
does it do fun things with it?

>>24945720
>Meng Hao walked into the McDonald’s.

am i going to get any shit for writing about real life peoples and cultures going extinct in my superhero wn that takes place 300-400 years after the sudden appearance of superpowers?

>ie. the MC mentions a familiar culture and people in the past tense
>it turns out some schizo who won the superpower lottery linked his fate to that of the every person in that culture, then killed himself, thinking that the world’s spiral into chaos could be attenuated by the lack of this culture
>MC brings this up in a historical sense, much like how people talk about the extinction of the dodo

>>24945848
?she gradually began to realize she had led him down the wrong path.
Just from this you can tell it's selfcest

>>24945855
it depends on the culture in question

>>24945891
will it help if i have multiple cultures and people obliterated by schizos with superpowers instead of just one?

>>24945893
again, it depends on the cultures you're gonna have obliterated

>>24945893
No

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>>24945855
instead of cultures write it as races and make it so that every race besides whites killed themselves

>>24945905
why is it that nearly every xuanhuan chinese wn that takes place on earth use this setting?

>>24945657
Monte Cristo's probably terrible for teaching you how to write a serial.
The story just gets going and then it dives headfirst into a crater with the sinbad section.

>>24945657
it's a strange decision to prop up monte cristo as a corner stone of slop history over the three musketeers

>>24945886
I thought it would be more of a mother/son angle but this is good too

>Max Level Archmage
...
>Critical Role
>Demon princess
>Return of the unbound mage
>Greatest archmage to have ever lived
>Return of the mage supreme
...
It's getting a little bit much now

>>24944823
Worth the Candle, the legendary king arthur figure who united the empire about 500ish years in the past.

>>24945506
hm can't find it as torrent or on ebook hunter.....
really hate skipping the beginning, but maybe
thanks anyway!

>>24945722
noted, thanks

>>24945855
some people might cringe
currently reading Amelia Thornheart, and I had to cringe really hard when it got to the "Jesus was actually a demon and humans can't accept that blabla" part, I almost dropped it.

But the wn seems to be fairly successful, so I guess you can pull it off

>>24945893
wiping COUNTRIES from the map because of weapons of mass destruction or goku finally showing his true power or whatever is fine. but if you have a bunch of schizo racial-cleansing villains runnning all over europe to incinerate every person with a drop of montenegrin blood or some shit then yeah you'll probably bother a number of readers

>>24946036
you forgot the ai generated max level crafter one, i think that hit top 5 rising stars a bit ago

>>24945855
I think it's notable that you refuse to actually name who this "wiped out culture" were. I can only conclude that this is because you realize it'd be controversial.

>>24946060
They come in here every other thread and do this 'teehee i'm writing something reactionary, will "they" be shocked by me' routine with slightly different phrasing
>>24946036
I don't get RR trendchasers. There's loads of popular stories where people want more of the world and you could easily tell one in an ocdonotsteal version of the setting.
We rarely get those. Instead we just get the exact same premise as a popular story again but this time done by someone who can't write characters.

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>>24945855
>>24946060
>superhero web novel
>"Hm, this reminds me of the sudden disappearance of the long-nosed merchants, the beginning of our golden age..."

>>24946065
the motivation for trend chasers is that they see it as the path of least resistance

>The door to the house was broken. It had been with hope she had approached the small house in the woods, stumbling forward through the trees when she had seen the red tiles through the trees. As she got closer, hope waned and when she stumbled around the side and saw the door barely hanging on a single hinge, all hope died.

Seriously, that's your opening paragraph for your fiction? Says hope 3 times, twice in the same sentence. Trees twice in the same sentence.

At least it filters me quickly, but holy shit, do people even care? 5 star reviews across the board.

>>24946230
>stumbling forward through the trees when she had seen the red tiles through the trees
oh dear

>>24946230
all those reviews are probably swaps

>>24946230
no good webnovel has a good opening, they're just optimising

can anyone help me find a webnovel I read like 10 years ago.
I only remember the twist,that the mc was on tidally locked moon all along or something like that.
The rest was standard fantasy novel.

I kind of want to see a more realistic take on a fantasy or xianxia setting. One that isn’t focused on people cursing or getting their guts ripped out, but centers more on common human flaws, like guys going into debt to buy the latest super-airship to show off, women using magic to change their features until they look like bogged monsters, dudes simping for big-titty succubi to the point that they sell their souls just to meet them, and stuff like that.

>>24946290
Anon.
Respectfully and with all the best intentions I can muster — That's Peak Reddit

>>24946329
you can't just call anything you don't like reddit
reddit is embodied by uncritical consumerism
low stakes character studies don't qualify
projecting modern personalities and struggles onto a fantasy setting is cringe because it's a shallow attempt at intellectualism, not because it's reddit
the premise is just a contemporary litfic character exploration but with craven young masters and noble whore elves

>>24946329
Nah that kind of anti-sex post that's still obsessed with sex is deeply 4chan, unforts

I haven't been here in a minute, any important developments happen recently?

>>24946290
Gotcha senpai
https://www.scribblehub.com/series/1226237/succeed-or-fall-into-depravity-as-a-witch/

>>24946363
same as it ever was
only one writer talking about their stuff these days
bet you can guess who
pretty sure everyone moved to a secret club discord

>suddenly lose motivation to keep writing in a session where I reach the end of a chapter I outlined before hitting 2k words
this is such a retarded mindset but I can't stop it from sneak attacking me.
I guess the solution is to just not look at the word count until the session is finished rather than checking during breaks.

>>24946369
>pretty sure everyone moved to a secret club discord
Ah that'd explain why the bread longevity seems to have quadrupled while post speed more than halved.
I hate this shit. Kills every single community.
>Guess who
The unlucky protag dude?

>>24946376
got it in one

Last week the only thing I could do was write, I had no distractions at all.
After writing 7k words in a relatively comfortable day I was forced to confront the reality that I could literally do that every day if I just stopped getting distracted by the internet and other shit.
I feel like a litrpg protagonist who was forced to push past his limits...

>>24946390
I find I always right best in the morning, you can get going before your brain really has time for distractions.

Editing/rewriting in the evening is fine because you can do it a passage at a time.

>>24946390
my character sheet remains unclassed because every time I start to get into writing a story I get 3 chapters in before collapsing under crippling doubt and give up to start a new one

>>24946373
I don't write sequentially so I don't tend to have that particular problem. I just write

// bit about thing goes here

And then I continue writing other bits that feel right in the moment. In the end it's all stitched together and it only needs an editing pass to not be a jumble, which I was gonna do anyway.

>>24946288
Sure, it was FFF-Class Unlucky Antagonist

>>24946230
>hope waned and then all hope died
tragic

>>24946522
I hope that hope is okay

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>>24946518
Stop fake being me!!!
Not funny.

>>24946534
Don't worry, everyone understands it's a joke answer

>>24946376
i was one of the regulars and a discord wasn't what killed it for me
it was the RI troll wave combined with how more /wg/ refuges were here than people who actually read and enjoy web novels
so i stopped posting

>>24946609
Grim.

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give me recs to read while I wait for chapters to build up

>>24946363
Yeah: immersive ink has mass launches about ~2 days from now feb

>>24946060
the cultures that schizos would love to eradicate:
>Ashkenazi Jews (Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews still exist because they were forgotten)
>Western Africans (schizo forgot that Africa is a continent, with all that it entails)
>Afrikaners (lefty schizo finished what the British could not)
>Everyone on the British Isles (a mix of nationalist and lefty schizos going off af once)
>Russians & Ukrainians
>Chinese (wiped out by a Indian schizo nationalist)
>Pakistani (had their culture and history retroactively merged with the greater Indian mass by that same schizo Indian nationalist)
>Arabs (obliterated by an Israeli ultra-nationalist who survived the Schizo purge by nature of being Mizrahi)
>North Korean (obliterated by the SK government deploying captured schizos past the DMZ, day 2 of the happening)
>3/4ths of the Indian subcontinent (self-explanatory)
what other cultured would schizos obliterate if given God-like superpowers?

>>24946663
America would be a barren wasteland that's mostly a collection of obliterated husks. If you consider them a culture at all.

>>24946643
Sorry, I don't read transsexual schizo ramblings

>>24946674
I'll also read malesexual schizo ramblings if they're not boring

>>24946669
i’m considering making America survive through 4 different civilizational collapses returning to a representational republican democracy after going through:
>Total collapse caused by superpower anarchy
>Warlord period where extremely powerful supers take control over vast swathes of the US
>Chaotic period caused by the remains of the Mexican and Canadian government invading to try and annex US territory between them while the central government is dead
>Monarchy that rises from supers, establishes a new class of nobility in the US and lasts long enough for the structures it built to stick, before collapsing after the entire ruling family gets nuked by a schizo
>Most powerful supers at the time grew up reading mythologized accounts of the Founding Fathers, and decided to install a republican democracy

>>24946679
Honestly, just obliterate it. Far funnier than anything else you could've come up with, if you just want some sort of outcry.

>>24946682
even funnier than a centuries long actual race war between the Sons of Yakub and the Nation of Islam?

>>24946686
Yes. American exceptionalism will regard it as a far greater dishonor than you could ever imagine.

>>24946679
Very interesting, how let's see the first couple chapters of what you've written.

>>24946679
>Most powerful supers at the time grew up reading mythologized accounts of the Founding Fathers, and decided to install a republican democracy
Actual makings of fun fiction, good luck anon
However you should nuke india as a matter of principle

I've thought about writing for over a decade. I started learning to write more than a year ago. Yet I've not written anything longer than a few paragraphs. How do I break this spell? How do I actually write? I have a million story ideas. I've even written myself notes about some of these ideas reaching several thousand words, but I can't seem to bring myself to write. What is wrong with me?

>>24945855
>>24945893
Execution matters more than anything, but if it's part of the story and AND NECESSARY to the story you're telling, go for it. It's interesting if nothing else (although suicide like that is NOT interesting, it's tragic, and should be portrayed as such). Yes, you're going to get hate comments for it, but you'll get those for random, non-controversial things too. Don't let it get to you much.

>>24946798
just freewrite for ten minutes. Blank page, spam out any shit that comes into your head; not any story you've planned, just random shit.
Then when it's over you flick to the doc/tab/page for the story you're actually planning to writer and go.

It seems like woowoo nonsense but, unfortunately, it works to get you going.

>>24946048
zlib has it!
The beginning is a little rough, and it's a shame the comments got obliterated since there was a lot of good literary critique in there. Maybe the author would be willing to pull the comments out and share them if someone asked.

>>24946798
executive dysfunction
you have to work it out like muscles by forcing yourself to do it more and more
write flash fics

>>24946065
>They come in here every other thread and do this 'teehee i'm writing something reactionary, will "they" be shocked by me' routine with slightly different phrasing
I'm guilty of this from a couple months ago, but in the end the underage age gap romance generated literally zero negative reaction on RR. It's all about execution. Wrongthink executed well is fine, wrongthink executed poorly will be criticized.

>>24943817
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSNZali-jIk2MASsAWVf8N7A8BlSyzPbAFV_BhsA5Ip3SWfMPWKxaXf8Pdb7f0TgFyWis31BzirtPeR/pubhtml
Everything on this list above 100k words.

>>24945506
a cover I could fap to, always a good start.

>>24946846
>bunch of deleted fics
scary....

Incredible how much AI slop makes me appreciate middling (and even bad) human writing. I recently dropped 40 millenium of cultivation because of pacing reasons but I was able to enjoy the writing despite it being dogshit chinese writing translated to a human language.

>>24945415
>I’m sick of LitRPGs. I’m sick of slice-of-life, progression-fantasy bullshit.
>I wish Westerners would go back to doing what they do best, which is writing about cool dudes who need to foil the villains’ world-ending schemes while being hunted by half the nation’s army.
*ahem*
what you're really asking for, is this:
the traditional genre paperbacks of yesteryear. Here, you sound as if you would have read Clive Cussler - Dirk Pitt novels, and it would have scratched your itch while you searched around for a better fit. The big thing about traditional genre paperbacks were that this was before "woke" shit started preaching in paperbacks. There's several anons already that have stated this is what they want to read, this is what they try to write. If you get enough writers together making this, people would notice

>>24945278
>people proud of being oldfags are the worst posters on the board by far
I'm an oldfag, I admit it. I'm pushing 60. I know what I am, I'm a link to the past. 80s girls and life back then? I lived it and I was a young adult through the 90s. I can easily remember before everything was so woke and fucked up. I grew up reading 60s and 70s and 80s paperbacks. My grandfather? I remember being a toddler and he bitched how there was once NO FEDERAL PAYROLL TAX, it was his pet peeve. I'm in contact with real history. And I don't know who convinced you anyone over 30 is your enemy? But they did you a great dis-service.

>>24946855
I'm definitely deleting my account too if they actually start asking for IDs

>>24946893
"Oldfag" refers to people who've been on here since the start of the site to the early 2010s which are mostly millenials.

>>24946893
I've been feeling a gen X voice of social cluelessness to a lot of posts here
you may be in good hands

>>24946905
nta but infographics from 2010 refer to people who joined from 2008 onward (me) as newfags
then anyone from 2010 onward are called cancer

>>24946926
That's just general elitism and banter
The real change happened when phone users became the majority of site visitors. This is where you can establish a definitive modern era and a definitive "before times"

>>24946874
The big thing about AI writing for me is that it mostly mirrors the voice (and style) of american bloggers. Which is something I couldn't abide when humans were doing it.

>>24946988
It was /pol/ and /vg/ too.
Mostly coincided with mobile posting but that's when you saw the big culture change.
I know it's funny to post about this when we're in a general but general threads for every topic under the sun were a giant shift in the makeup of boards.

>>24946368
peak

>>24946643
it seems you enjoy the works of terminally online lesbians. read Atzi

>>24946663
>>Everyone on the British Isles
this one is based actually. let a fr*nch supervillain just sink those islands into the waves.

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How do you stop yourself from being overly specific? It always derails me but the urge to get the reader to see exactly what I see is very strong.

>>24947072
read more

>>24947072
read more
pay attention to descriptive passages and think about how granular the descriptions are
your role as writer is often more to evoke rather than depict. you aren't a painter or a cinematographer

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>>24946846
>there's an anon with almost 2 million words written who i've never seen mention his story itt
woah

>>24947082
Most of what I read either explains every intricate detail or next to nothing at all. I guess the latter is probably better and more engaging to most people. I'll just keep the plot moving even if I see explaining how different the clothes of the protagonist are compared to everyone else's matters a lot in my head. The truth is probably that it doesn't actually mean too much at all.

>>24947089
I've reviewed and mentioned slopking before. I still think the author should start something new because this thing is not doing well.

>>24947096
It's about how you read, really.
I'm not a descriptive reader, I don't picture shit. So unless you're good at descriptive writing (you aren't) most passages like that are kind of a waste.

>>24947107
Only a few are 'doing well'. The rest seem deluded.

>>24946810
>write flash fics
How?

>>24947107
have you considered he's enjoying writing it?
99.99% of all creative works are not going to do well

>>24946846
The ones who gave up before like 20k words are hilarious.
What are you doing buddy? That's just an intro

>>24947122
just pet the dog

>>24946846
I'm just going to list them all.
Cherno Caster
There Will Be Dragons Here
The Undying Emperor
ARCHETYPE
Alma's Dreams (are Default)
The Crow and The Rabbit
Skulltaker
Born Under A Black Sun
Revenge of the Slop King
Sheltered Pantheon
FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antagonist'
Cannibal Cheerleader
Labours of Zucchini
The Dragon And The Author
Project 17: 戦の腐
Erased
Summoned To Another World! Is This... A Love Dungeon?!
Saga of Fallen Kings
A Hero Among Monsters
Merry's Present
Superflux
The Maid Is Not Dead
Dark Crow Rising
RE: Trailer Trash (Pretty sure this isn't inactive. I see it even has a webtoon looking it up as well.)
Retribution Engine
Behold! The Harbinger of Doom
Violent Solutions
Sand and Legends
The Holy Maiden's Temptress
Changling: The Child From The Woods
Ebonreach: Rise of the Countess
Azure Orphans
Fletch: A Fantasy of the High Seas
Tatzelwyrm
Avatar of Reincarnation
Simulacrum: Heaven's Key
The Elevation Chronicles

If anyone has anything to say about any of these, please do.

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>>24947190
>RE: Trailer Trash
>(Pretty sure this isn't inactive)

>>24947190
I hope you copypasted that rather than typing it out.

>>24947166
>plan out nice and easy 55k word story for writathon
>currently over 90k and two more entire arcs before it's done
Fug man, I CANNOT estimate correctly how long my stories are going to be.
I was supposed to be relaxing this month.

>>24947190
Archetype is kino

>>24943821
>>24943817
there's gotta be at least poster from/in here who's wrote something notable without tying themselves to the thread by saying so.
Like I know I wouldn't.

>>24947233
That's literally the anon that originally made the thread.
>>24947166
Can't speak for them but I spend a lot of time on world building and planning future arcs and characters before I even started writing a backlog. I'd probably just stop and recycle the future ideas instead of wasting them on a story nobody is reading.

>>24947233
>there's gotta be at least poster from/in here who's wrote something notable without tying themselves to the thread by saying so.
there are multiple posters who are in the exclusive invite-only RR author discord and provide leaks from there, so yes.
only akaso anon associates though

but again there's maybe tops 50 people who infrequently post in /wng/. that's a very small number and definitely DOESNT guarantee that any major author is here

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The new chapter of FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antagonist' is out now!!!
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/119783/fff-class-unlucky-antagonist-villains-origin-story/chapter/2845711/ego-witch-part-seven

This chapter: Jacques VS. Pic related.
Next time, Volume 4's ending.
>>24947190
my is great.

>>24946846
>My fic is somehow in there
BRB suicide

Can we talk about communities, forums, discords etc.
Are any of them actually worth joining?

>>24947310
No to both.

>>24947310
if you can stop yourself from making it clique drama
which I doubt you can

>>24946695
This. Just have America completely removed, and the rest of the world just goes on, no drama, no disruption, just everything getting better and everyone getting along better, and when the MC references it, he misremembers the name and still gets mocked as a nerd for irrelevant historical footnotes, the aneurysms you will cause will be worth the effort even discounting the laughs you will give and the panties you will soak. And if one of the half dozen or so of my people who can actually read finds your work, we will chuckle sensibly and leave a glowing review.

>>24947310
Actually yes, the cabal discord that spawned the monster girl evo launches is worth being in. They have a highly effective shoutout network (look at gunslinger witch).
Immersive Ink also exists but is an open community (discord) and as such attracts a lower quality of author, which means lower quality shoutouts.
Then there's /wng/ which I assume has the best discussion (I wouldn't go anywhere else) but which won't actually help your story succeed, and if you piss people off they might drop a 0.5 rating out of spite. And then the association with 4chan which can hamper success later on (can, not shall, it's different).

>>24947256
Mine's not thank fucking god. Sorry for your lots. Maybe if you message the google doc owner they'll remove it.

anons, what are some stories that you would say hooked you from chapter one?

>>24947351
the one from the op

>>24947351
Pale Lights might be the only webnovel I can think of that actually arrested me at the opening.
Which is funny, because it's kinda dull after that until they finally get to tutorial island.
Zombie Knight saga has a pretty punchy start but it's really just dialogue showing some interesting worldbuilding.

>>24947310
>Are any of them actually worth joining?
the discords are the only way to get shout outs really, so if that's what you need then yes
but otherwise they're public discord communities and im sure I don't need to explain what that means

>>24947310
You seem to be better off coming in with an audience via fanfic, but I think all of those writers spent years building them up.

>>24947343
I haven't updated the spreadsheet since Oct 28th, as it says. If you've posted it before that, then I missed it. If it's afterwards, then I haven't got around to it yet.

>>24947351
Infinite regressor

tfw can't network because I can't think of an author name that isn't tied to my existing accounts

>>24947351
katalepsis has my current favorite opening arc
almost all of my top top favorites start slow though

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>>24947351

>>24947389
Just pick anything it doesn't matter. You'll probably end up using multiple anyway.
Lord of Mysteries is written by Cuttlefish That Loves Diving.

>>24947392
that fic has a great first few chapter but the lesbo all female vibes got me to drop it

>>24947166
mine indeed was an intro, its being rewritten into a better narrative

>>24947351
I wouldn't say it hooked me but I'd say that pale lights has a very tightly designed chapter 1
it's not well written per se but it's professionally written. it feels scientifically designed to be engaging

>>24947442
it's a decent story with lots of cool ideas but it's obnoxiously lesbian
there's like 150 chapters of the protagonist having constant self loathing horny lesbian internal monologues before developing past it

are there any WNs leaning heavily on AI images?

>>24947409
Okay, I'm interested. You gonna set the hook, or you just feeding the fish for shits and giggles, senpai?

>>24947208
It's not inactive but what would you call a series that does ~6 new chapters a year - and only 3 this year. Glacial?

>>24947464
What does that even mean? A storybook?

>>24947464
the ones I 'write' with the help of grok

>>24947464
I read Dawn of the Density God which used them a lot.
I found them really offputting and I'm someone who reads LN's a bunch.
They were all static character portraits or monster shots. No action, no big moments from the story illustrated and they often barely matched the writing's descriptions.

It might've not been AI (I was reading in black and white on a kindle) but if it wasn't an artist was absolutely rinsing the author so I think it had to be.

>>24947494
a storybook is a book of stories; but otherwise, sure. a story with pictures. however many or few. maybe a graphic novel. im wondering if anyone is reading this stuff, anywhere
>>24947505
you've been incorporating pictures? do you want to share any? just curious

also any new & exciting series drop in the last few months?

>>24947470
It's "I Am This Murim's Crazy Bitch"

>>24947536
You have our gratitude.

>>24947535
no I delete when I'm finished

>>24947574
could you make one for me now?

>>24947166
tbf I get it
I wrote two chapters with it already planned out how much of a backlog I'd build up before I even considered posting it and I was immediately like "I should post this, get some responses"

>>24947514
>Dawn of the Density God which used them a lot.
For some reason I can't see them for more than half a second. I even turned off adblocker, the ads show but the story images don't stay.

>>24947166
I always get tired of writing a story by the 15-20K mark

>>24946804
Thanks, I'll try!
>>24946810
I do have ADHD but can't afford to get it treated right now.

I'm embarrassed it took me this long to realize that the meta for RR was writing in the style of a translated JP novel...

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>>24947226

Do ya really love m--

I mean, do you really think so?

>>24943213
Tell me what you think.
Is this an authentic presentation or is this anon just LARP'ing?
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search&search_text=134237

Total Views :
261,317
Average Views :
5,226
Followers :
2,084
Favorites :
319
Ratings :
229
Pages :
401

I'm skeptical of adding it to the spreadsheet.

>>24947752
I'd say add it, and if the author messages you to remove it, do so then.

>>24943213
Dec 13th update, previous update was Oct 28th

Yes, I know this is late in the thread. I don't care. Only the stats for the ongoing were updated. The author stats weren't updated.

Two new added
Ten Thousand Tragedies
Somewhere Else (the author has 10 other stories, but I don't feel like adding them right now)
There might be others that didn't directly post a Royal Road link, but I'm not looking for them right now.

There are currently 12 ongoing.

STATUS CHANGES
COMPLETED
Labours of Zucchini by Meowtastic ran for 3 months, 10 days.

HIATUS
The Crow and The Rabbit
Cannibal Cheerleader
Keygemin
This Middling Young Master will Comprehend Dao and Plunder Legacies
VESSEL (English Version)
Nightrun
Midnight Tide
Boomer Revelations: a Heavy Metal Apocalypse

INACTIVE
Retention Wizard

DELETED
The Wheel and the Wing by jerdarious - Began August 13, 2025 and ended sometime since Oct 28th. Profile renamed to ersxtz and their personal website has been deleted. Last active on Royal Road today.

The Fallen Prince is Now a Time Traveler (AEONALIZE) by PinUp Citizen. Began April 27, 2025 and ended sometime since Oct 28th. Profile has also been deleted.

Notes
Skulltaker continues to have by far the highest follower growth relative to how long it's been going, assuming Ten Thousand Tragedies isn't authentic. If it is, its growth is twice all the other ongoing combined.

RE: Trailer Trash says 31 days ago, so rather then moving it to ongoing, I'll put it in hiatus, unless there's more posted later.

If you need to copy something from the spreadsheet or look at the formula, or whatever else.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cxwZ8WcUuzDWb7hiPbdIxRrQmhPxww0xcWgtMtBpXtM/edit

>>24947113
I will assume you are the norm because that seems to be correct. I've removed a lot of the detailed shenanigans and it is definitely easier to read. I'm discovering ways to add more details in the story in a way that are neither super cliche nor halt the pacing through rewrites which is definitely something I need to be diligent on.

>>24947792
>Profile renamed to
you're a brazen little creep aren't you
this is why people don't associate with 4chan. can't get away even if you try, spergs will crawl the archive and stalk you

>>24947803
The link to the profile is still in the spreadsheet anyway. The number doesn't change. If it mattered enough the profile would be deleted.That's most likely a just a random string of letters rather than deleting, not an actual new name.

>>24947803
You're still here? Not trying very hard to get away, are you? For someone who claims to be too good to be associated with trash like us, you sure do waste a lot of your time associating with us.

>>24947810
actually im someone who from the start refused to associate with 4chan and this is exactly why. people are literally expressing that they don't want to be tracked (>>24947256 for a recent example) and this autist is just becoming more thorough with his bookkeeping regardless, despite zero people encouraging him

guess the anons who post their work here should've just known better but it's still gross behavior on autist anon's part

>For someone who claims to be too good to be associated with trash like us, you sure do waste a lot of your time associating with us.
it can be enjoyable to shitpost and chat with some of you (definitely not most though) but I would never publicly fly 4chan's flag, it baffles me that some people are proud of this cesspit. it's embarrassing to be a proud user of any website for that matter. if you want to know how I view you, just imagine a redditor being super proud of being a redditor and getting defensive when a different redditor calls the site shit but admit they use it anyway

>>24947825
>just becoming more thorough with his bookkeeping regardless
I'd say I'm becoming lazier and updating less in general. But, if you prefer I could do more. I don't know, maybe search for if something is being posted on Reddit and then put their username in the spreadsheet, or on other sites. I'm not going to do that though, because it's not worth the effort and I'm not interested. What I should've been doing was note more stuff as the threads were going by, even if I wasn't updating. Oh well. I guess I could add other silly stuff for annoyance, like the discord channels and other offsite stuff, but nah.

>>24947825
aren’t you that one anon who has found some measure of success and make it a point to remind every anon in this thread (every two or so threads) that your WN is doing well but rebuffing any anons interested in your WN?

>>24947873
Not him, but I occasionally mention stuff about my (minor) success on RR, and I also refuse to associate my author persona (which is autistically and paranoidly divorced from my real life identity and any other internet accounts) with 4chan. The author persona is designed to be as bland and inoffensive as possible.

Unlike the guy you replied to, though, I do like 4chan and I'm proud (on the inside) of being a 4chan user. I just know how insane 4chan can be and that the internet is forever. Once anonymity is lost, the entire online persona has to be discarded and a new one built from scratch, which is fairly annoying at best and for a pen name and RR account, it's a lot of work to rebuild from scratch. Plus you can't leverage a fanbase built up over time if you have to rebrand.

Ultimately it's not that big a deal unless someone makes it a big deal, by having a meltie about it.

My advice to anyone on the list who doesn't want to be? Quietly contact the guy outside of 4chan, ask him to remove your work from the list quietly, and then when asked deny all knowledge of it. "Isn't that the website that blew up a van? Yeah I don't go there, that's whack, I'm a good boy/girl/enbie :^)" and leave it at that.

>>24947825
Never said I was proud to be here, but if I were ashamed to do something, I wouldn't do it. If you're the sort who'd do a thing they're ashamed of without hesitation or remorse just because you think you're doing it without anyone's knowledge, well, that explains why you're projecting perfidious intent on a volunteer public servant. I'd pray for your soul, but that would disrespect your demonstrated belief that you haven't one. Don't much care what you think of me, though, or rather what you think of the image you've projected onto your own imagination of me and the rest of our degenerate brethren, though. I must say, reddit ain't so very terrible in my experience, but I don't really go there to farm for narcissistic supply, so I imagine your perspective would be different from mine. Either way, good luck to you in your writing, I hope you manage to make a living at it, and that nobody ever finds out whatever things you've done until after you've passed beyond the reach of justice, retribution, bullying, or whatever it is you fear. But I probably won't watch the movie adaptation of your book, that sort of support I reserve for the valiant and shining star of self-promotion, our very own F-tier Villain slopper.

I'm going to bed you niggers are cringe

>>24947351
Reverend Insanity

>>24947825
I'm encouraging him because I like to find works from the thread to check out. The doc owner doesn't seem to mind taking people out if they don't want to be on it, so I don't see what the big deal is. Just about nobody cares about people using 4chan anymore except for those who look for things to throw a fit over.
It's not like we're linking here on our actual work. I'm not going to make it overt that I post here, but if someone actually did try and confront me over it, I'd just give them a 'Yes, and?'. It's only ever a problem if you kowtow.

>>24947938
>It's not like we're linking here on our actual work.
I do...

>>24947945
Bro you didn't even ask us if we consented to that.
Please delete that link. There's enough newfags around as is...

>>24947945
You're a tad bit silly then, but hey, I don't mind.

>>24947953
a few shots in of alchie and I realized what you mean, no I don't link back here

>>24947409
netdecking optimal highest damage character builds and then picking the easiest difficulty.
yuuup, it's gaming time

>>24947464
smutslop webnovels seem more likely to lean on AI CG
There were a bunch in "I’ve Become an Onahole, But I’ll Still Climb The Tower" which I read.
I read the first few chapters of https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/104664/critical-misclass on ao3 and it included embedded ai cgs of all the characters plus a blowjob scene or something. (Not sure if it cut out those parts for RR or just got away with them)

>>24947695
Yup. the whole webnovel scene especially litrpgs is basically weeaboos

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everything reads like Fate Stay/Night

>>24947792
>all these deletions
:(

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>>24947792
The fuck this means?

>>24948109
is the book a meta genre for royalroad (like opmc, litrpg or cultivation)
not sure how wheel and the wing got yes, isn't it an epic poem about a harpy doing a school shooting?

>>24948078
Man, I wish there was a web novel author half as skilled at setting a scene Kinoko Nasu

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Nasu is technically a web novelist.

>The first five chapters were posted online on Nasu and Takeuchi’s dojin website “Takebouki” starting Oct 1998, and the last two chapters being released at Comiket 56 in 1999. In 2001, part of the story was included in “Tsukihime PLUS-DISK,” created by TYPE-MOON, the doujin circle Nasu and Takeuchi joined. The story gained huge popularity, and the doujinshi edition of the stories saw release on December 30, 2001 at Comiket 61.

>>24948078
elaborate

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I've been getting a bunch of shoutout swap offers lately. But man, this business just feels hella gay. "Hello, kids, your favorite author here, please check out S-Rank Dragon Dildo Fucker in Another World by Obese Nigga, a pretty cool story I didn't read." I don't even have that many followers, why are they asking me?

>>24948150
Are you in the same genre? Do you have more followers than them?

>>24948155
No to both.

>>24947825
Do you think being a creep is somehow exclusive to 4chan? I've met far more irritating spergs on RR than here, where most don't care at all. As long as you post your work in public space, you won't get only nice, happy interactions and you'll just have to accept that. Posting on /lit/ isn't going to somehow make it worse, that's all your personal paranoia. This board has very few users to begin with, by internet standards

>>24947792
Nightrun is getting an update Monday. I hope. Maybe.

>>24947836
I appreciate the list. I think it may have gotten me a read or two.

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Fuck, should I even have edit suggestions on at RR? It's fucking annoying when chapter comments are full of people nitpicking on spellings that are not even wrong. I get such a cold rush, seeing those walls of text, thinking I've fucked up everything, but when I actually start to go through the list, turns out nothing really needs to be changed. Am I supposed to thank these losers for wasting my time? But apparently some people won't even read your work unless the setting is enabled? But is having these autists worth it in the first place? How did that site get so fucking obnoxious

>>24948350
don't bother
just make sure to line-edit properly before releasing a chapter and then move on

>>24948350
Unfortunately you've gotta give an example here lol
I leave them on because I occasionally use the wrong word but spell it correctly so my checkers don't catch it.

>>24948350
The weird thing is that sometimes I correct a word choice that they tell me doesn't quite fit and then I get people going through the comments later and being confused about why the word's not there anymore.

>>24948371
tbf I had this happen with Outrun, the cyberpunk story.

I had two versions on my ereader. One I ripped months ago and a new one.
I was reading from the beginning so I started with the new version but there was some weird, stilted, phrasing. After an author's note saying "Revised: XX/XX/2025" I checked the old version and it read a lot better.

I dunno if they used a grammar program incorrectly or what but it was definitely worse than before, even if the before did have errors.