I decided I am going to completely forsake market research and just write purely what I want and let the dice roll

djano lexbo

>>25019326
>I decided I am going to completely forsake market research and just write purely what I want and let the dice roll
Based.

>>25019327
>djano lexbo
Who?

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Do you guys have separate emails for your personal/work life and your webnovel-writing life to preserve your privacy and not become the target of obssessive fans like Stephen King and George Martin have been for years, in case you ever become famous?

>>25019333
Yes, I also write under a fake name.

/wng/ authors update

Added Stories
Drowned Quest
Drowned Quest Predux

Added Authors
Bathic

Status Changes
Hiatus -> Ongoing
Born Under a Black Sun

Ongoing -> Hiatus
A Return from the Sky
Alma's Dreams (are Default) ("One more chapter until we wrap up volume one." To be seen when it arrives.)
Archetype (said he'd resume this month.)
Kindlelight

Hiatus -> Inactive*
Cannibal Cheerleader (Comes back after 2 years to post 2 chapters 2 months ago)
Dark Crow Rising (I'm ignoring the author manually setting it to Ongoing despite not being so)
Demaine
Hegemon of Shongma
KIND
Memory Shards
Midnight Tide
Superflux (Maybe the author will resume in April as stated.)
The Class Of 9099
The Maid Is Not Dead (It's not quite yet time, but since their newer series is doing so much better, it seems likely to happen)
VESSEL

Hiatus -> Completed
Boomer Revelations: a Heavy Metal Apocalypse,. 35 pages, 9 chapters. Duration: 91 days (a few postings rather than regularly)

Deleted
None

Royal Road Sheet
Stub status has been removed
Changed Completed to be 4th in the sorting
Post count has been hidden
The titles are now clickable
Warosu links to posts has been added

Authors Sheet
Last Active and Posted columns have been added
Stats sheet and previous names have been hidden
Names are now clickable
The Other columns have been consolidated

Patreon
I don't remember when I last updated this.
Monthly amount, paid members
FortySixtyFour $4,479->$4,457
NMR-3 $523->$448,156->137
Akaso $230->$174, 47->36
Blanch $210, 28
AnotherArchetype $24->$14, 10->9
Flowering Dregs seems to have closed it.

Misc
Created a hidden sheet for my convivence rather than hiding and unhiding columns every time I wanted to add something.

Cherno Caster continues its decline in followers despite releasing new chapters. Do the readers only see the stub status and not that it's also ongoing? Even so, Akaso still has the second most followers of those actively releasing chapters on Royal Road. Third place is Blanch with The Ultimate Weapon at Royal Academy has also fallen in followers since the last update. Has its growth stalled out? Why is AnotherArchetype at $14 considering the relative stats of other others listed? Then again, K.R. is at $2 with Slop King. There are probably conclusions to be made from this. I could do more accurate growth charts or change over time, but eh.

*Royal Road has it at 6 months, which is generous. I'm not so generous because I don't want to look at stuff so much that likely won't be updated again. If you've fallen into inactive and has resumed again, let me know, because I won't be checking anytime soon.

What do you guys think about Tree of Aeons?

>>25019333
Yeah, I have no joke over 20 different email accounts

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Peddler in Another World: I Can Go Back Whenever I Want! Volume 2 - Hiiro Shimotsuki (JP:2020/EN:2023)

Already with the second volume it strays away from its titular premise to focus on an adventure in the forest by the town. This would be disappointing if it weren't for already knowing that it would be the case from having read the manga, which this is catching up to already surprisingly quickly.

From my experience it's all too common that a story based on a gimmick will bait and switch to something more generic in a short while. One of the reasons I was interested at looking at the light novel was to be see if it went back to its premise or became mostly a standard sort of fantasy adventure.

Some of the appeal for this and similar sorts of story may be the masculine idea of being a provider. Shiro, the protagonist, can do a lot for everyone and it has a huge impact on their lives while benefitting himself greatly as well.

At the start of the story there's to be a town festival and Shiro wonders what he'll bring to do it because he doesn't want to directly compete to against the existing businesses, especially in regards to food. That's more consideration than some business that become the center of a local economy have when they end the existence of the small business already there. So, he does a photo booth and brings a camera. Again, there's so much that is just glossed over about this, as that's the kind of story it is.

The character interactions are predictably awful as usual. It's rather common for my reaction to be when reading light novels to be one of disbelief, no matter how much I've read. These aren't human conversations. They're as much a fantasy of communication as is finding a portal to another world in a house.

There's a lot to cringe about, but it's something a person either become inured to, or stops being involved with it. In this case, the peculiarities of Japanese media, though it can apply to almost anything. I've written about that previously in that I wonder at times about what I'm reading, so it's least somewhat ironic that not long after I'd be reading light novels again, but that's how it is goes. I'd been planning to do so again for a long while.

Shiro notes that adventurers are the vast majority of customers because they have by far the most money anyone else around. That reminds me of how nearly half of all consumer spending in the United States is driven by the top 10% of income earners. That may be crazy, but it's not fantastical.

The other business venture is selling alcohol. Sure, Shiro said he didn't want to compete, but their ale is terrible and nobody likes it anyway. This predictably leads to a dwarf wanting his strongest alcohol. The ensuring scene is a bit like the Potion Seller video, though less amusing.

I'll probably be writing whatever like this for however much I read of the light novels that I do. It's definitely much easier and takes far less time.

Do you think humans will dream of earth and places they have never seen when they leave this planet in a billion years? Will their DNA make them dream of this place eventhough they were born and lived their whole lifes in space or on entirely different planets?

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>>25019333
Yep, very first thing I did. I keep my real name as far away from my pen name as possible (sadly amazon and patreon insisted on my real name for banking shit).

I've been on 4chan too long to use my real name for anything online.

>>25019345
I am.... utterly forgotten.....

I am going to read Reverend Insanity. Wish me luck...

>>25019383
get ready for the best story ever told.

>>25019365
No, I am pretty sure people in a billion years will have forgotten about earth.

>>25019322
I was going to post this here first, but it wasn't the appropriate time to do so. Oh well.

Established traditionally published author Django Wexler is now on Royal Road. Will we begin to see more doing so? Matt Dinniman was recently at a covention panel with Brandon Sanderson, Pierce Brown, and Tomi Adeyami. Dinniman seems to be getting around in general. They're probably all talking about ways to get money since for most authors they aren't getting much. Is it only a matter of time before the amateurs are crowded out by the professionals, or is this an entirely different skillset and audience where any other success won't carry over? This is also reflected in general job market for other professions as similar is happening.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/639491.Django_Wexler
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/1qcu98m/the_thirteenth_god_new_rr_serial_from_django/
https://www.reddit.com/r/royalroad/comments/1qcvuwk/art_for_the_thirteenth_god/
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/147205/the-thirteenth-god
https://www.patreon.com/cw/DjangoWexler

Patreon
Tiers: $5/$10/$15
12 members, 6 paid
$54/month

>>25018669
From the Patreon FAQ:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/faq-146459983
Why Royal Road and Patreon?

My career to date has been on the traditional side of publishing, and in the past that's been mostly what I read. But lately I've been hooked on fantasy coming from Royal Road, starting with Matt Dinniman's amazing Dungeon Crawler Carl.

Obviously when you read a lot of something, you get an itch to try it out. And I had an idea for a story that wasn't a good fit for traditional fantasy -- too long, too weird, with pacing more suited to a serial. Rather than toss it out and try something else, I figured I'd give this a shot!

Are you quitting traditional publishing?

Nope! As I write this (end of 2025) my next series is still not announced, but the first book will be out from Orbit in 2026. More info when I can!

"Yes, probably it'll shift over to KU sometime after the first volume is complete. That'll be at least 5-6 months from now though!"

>>25019320
Comparing to Yarros, one of the currently best selling authors in the world isn't really a fair comparison for any midlist author. I assume you're the same guy who says only the top 0.1% of Royal Road authors matter. But, relative to the to the top trad authors, like authors, they don't matter at all either. Maybe you should only study them instead of being here at all.

It's not meaningless at all. It'll be an interesting case study to see how it goes, especially if he bypasses and ignores all the established networking of the discord cabals and anything else. To me it just seems like you want to scorn the trad pub and don't like they've become interested in your stuff because that threatens any idea of position or power you may pretend to have.

There are are various other trad authors with patreon, though as far as I know none of them have done all that well.

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>>25019383
Stop, anon, comrade Xi doesn't approve it.

>>25019374
How so?

>>25019345
Thanks doc keeper Anon. I appreciate your efforts.
>>25019351
I couldn't stand it past a point. Typical case of the MC being a stubborn piece of shit and not getting any pushback. I cared more about the town that sprung up than the family of faggot elves that the MC dotes on at the expense of everyone else. Really, it's stories like these that make me hate elves and the people who are so damn enamoured by them. Shit story, dropped, the World Tree Dungeon or whatever it's called does it better.

Django wexler

>>25019394
It was all self defense, Fang Yuan did not do a anything wrong!

>>25019409
>self defense
>dismemberment

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>>25019351
I had a hard time self inserting as a tree and I never luck reading any story where the protagonist is turned into an inanimate object or dungeon core type being.
I'm still surprised demonic cultivation tree is so popular.

>>25019414
>self inserting
I shake my head at you and all such readers.

>>25019432
You are a spiritual and/or literal nigger that can't rotate apples and can't imagine not eating breakfast.

>>25019393
I'm small enough that it doesn't make any real difference if tradpub authors flood RR. I was being acerbic, but only in response to some anon getting butthurt we didn't know his favorite midlister by name and lose our shit over it.
>It's not meaningless at all.
It is. One rando joining RR changes nothing for RR nor for tradpubbing. He's not influential in any way. Some other anon was talking about whether or not prose matters as though that were still up for debate: it's not. For webnovels, both the floor and ceiling for prose mattering are very low. Concept and characters and pacing matter more.
And for the record I do scorn tradpub: it's full of anti-me r*cism/s*xism/orientationism and the only exceptions are nepobabies. I spit on tradpub. I hope every publishing house goes out of business and every one of their executives winds up homeless and destitute.

>>25019359
Now that sounds exccesive. Why so many? You only need one for your RR and Amazon account, isnt that right? How does that even work? Do you sign in to one to check your RR, another one to check Scribblehub, another for Amazon, another for fiction.net...? Seems more trouble than benefit.

>>25019454
He's smart I envy him. also you just need 1 email manager I have 5 emails but I should have more.

>>25019393
>I assume you're the same guy who says only the top 0.1% of Royal Road authors matter. But, relative to the to the top trad authors, like authors, they don't matter at all either. Maybe you should only study them instead of being here at all.
Ironically you have it backwards. I'm the anon you're referencing (because who cares what 50 follower RR authors are doing) and I'm the one who brought up Django only for several anons to complain about how it isn't important and that I'm crowding out more important discourse in the thread

>>25019414
One of the worst novels rash on rr. Pure trash.

>>25019491
NTA but wait
How can you be the guy who brought up Django wexler when the post that guy was replying to was responding to a guy angry at the guy who brought up django wexler?
is my reading comprehension just trash or something

>>25019506
I can't be bothered to figure out what you're asking or sort through the shitposting chain that spawned from this but it'll check out because I'm not lying. Good luck

>>25019508
Actually I think you're right and the reading comprehension was my fault
To be fair I've been drinking and am skim reading

>>25019515
Wait no
I am
> the same guy who says only the top 0.1% of Royal Road authors matter
but I am also the guy who brought Django to begin with
It's ironic because he's accusing the guy dismissing Django as the guy who brought him up in the first place
Leave me alone I'm drinking

>dud like im so drunk xD LOL!!!!
Shut the fuck up, behead alcoholics

It's not that I dislike xianxia on principle, it's just that when xianxia was being discussed recently the thread is full of aggressive trolls.
What's that mean?

>>25019524
I just assumed people here were always overly aggressive for no reason. I assumed verbal sparing was some sort of writing training.
Xianxia is okay I guess, I like some tropes I dislike others, I appreciate their morality is different for a lot of cultural reasons. Or that the stories are interesting because they're different.

>>25019539
>I just assumed people here were always overly aggressive for no reason.
It's definitely a timing thing and when /wng/ was first formed this was not remotely the standard.

>>25019539
>I assumed verbal sparing was some sort of writing training
No I just hate everyone here.

>>25019544
What'd you have your asshole blown out over to decide to troll the thread for?

>>25019519
I think django turning into RR of all things was relevant and interesting, not sure why it got so much pushback. It's uncommon enough to be novel.
But I think he's unique he's clearly a fan of RR fiction, probably due to stuff like DCC I know him and Diniiman have spoken before and he probably set him on the path.
it'll be interesting to see how seriously wexler takes his RR book when he's already said he's staying involved with trad pub.
also I bet wexler mostly reads yuri stories on RR.

>>25019454
nta but i start and stop a lot of pen names which each have their own email

>>25019545
It's just the RI spammer realizing that even in the web novel thread everyone hates him and so he's lashing out

>>25019365
Humans haven't existed for 50k years yet. Do you dream about life in caves or following herds of grazing animals with your tribe?

>>25019578
I dream of futa

>>25019365
No. I think their impression of the planet will be worse than ours.

>>25019524
I hate Xianxia, I don't really engage with it beyond ignoring it.

>>25019549
It's because the rest of the thread doesn't know who he is. This could have all been avoided if it had just been 'Hey guys, this tradpub author is coming to RR. Thoughts?' or some variation of that.
Instead of that, it came off as some literal who coming in and rubbing his pedigree in everyone's faces. When asked who he was, the response was 'I linked his goodreads author account anon...'. It felt rather snobbish and gave off an air of 'Do you know who I am?'. It's all about presentation.

>>25019583
based

>>25019592
Why assume a shill and not just check the goodreads account? It's not like someone with 100k+ goodreads ratings and thus 1,000,000+ sales is shilling in /wng/ of all places

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>>25019583
Based?

>>25019593
>>25019597
you people say based but I asked for futa web novel recs once and no one answered
i think you're posers...

>>25019442
You can't rotate an apple in your head without pretending you're the apple

>>25019601
>i think you're posers...
Based.

>>25019606
Based on what?

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>>25019601
The only thing I can suggest is
>Demon Princess Magical Chaos
But I don't think it's quite futa. Honestly AO3 is probably a better spot to find futa stories than RR.

>>25019607
Debasement.

>>25019616
>But I don't think it's quite futa
Either she has a cock or not?
Is it a tail or tentacles situation or smth? imo clearly doesn't count

>>25019619
Tentacles

>>25019625
doesn't hit the same at all

>>25019524
4chan anime/manga tards hating anything chinese

>>25019650
I don't know if I believe that. You're saying otherwise normal posters see xianxia discussions and immediately start turbo trolling everyone?
It has to be because the xianxia readers themselves are the trolls. It's way too consistent of a trend. Plus /wng/ was calm when it was first made and xianxia was almost never brought up except in an academic/referential sense.

>>25019597
giwtwmomoswdm

>>25019660
Good response. Though I feel your words were wasted on the troll.

It really feels like japan is the best country to be a web novel author in, for some reason their slop seems to get animes non-stop to feed their industry.

>>25019699
The language barrier does wonders for their creativity. Plus being an island. Similarly to being american is the best place to be a writer of screenplays for tv/movies.

>>25019699
Eh, there's always a tradeoff for popularity. The fact web novels go mainstream there means web novels have to be ridiculously competitive. I also think their artists are exploited because of how business/industry oriented it is.
Say what you want about the English web novel scene, but authors make bank off relatively small serials because a huge portion of the income goes straight to them. As it should.
So it depends what you mean by best

>>25019393
>Django Wexler
Oh joy. What new strong, independent lesbian rape fetish story is he going to write this time.

>>25019716
Personally I would be happier seeing my novel adapated into anime even if it meant being paid less but that's just me

>>25019720
Wtf? I'm interested now

>>25019699
Narou stories and western WNs are very different, especially nowadays. On RR, when it's Royalroadl, things were more free. Few people thought about making money from it, so they didn't consider the target audience (except themselves, the writers), forcing changes to fit the where the money is.
I don't know if that's normal, but I almost always prefer the first draft to the final revision. I think that raw feeling is what makes web novels different from traditional novels, at least before Chinese web novels' slop train of thousands of chapters of stories about nothing.

>>25019724
I can see that but I'm not that much of a weeb so it's not a huge factor for me. More important is being able to make a living wage with my art which Japan seems brutal about. Dunno that scene exactly though

>>25019720
Please elaborate anon

Guess I'll be the change in the world I want to see
I'm gonna write a futa fic

>>25019799
2nd person + futa

>>25019806
nah 1st/2nd retracts from the visceral impact of HER fat cock
who cares about "my fat cock" or "your fat cock"

>>25019720
Well that is horrible, and disgusting and horrible. Can you explain what the story is about?

>>25019322
>Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:
Just no.

>>25019824
Why not? It's the best resource available by far.
>No it isn't
Then give another

>>25019828
I don't like Sanders. I have seen a few of his resources and read a few of his blogs. I just don't think they are very useful.
Even his signature promise-prospect-payoff is kinda questionable storytelling technique and is so broad it isn't useful.

>>25019828
Anything by Django Wexler

>>25019842
It's very easy to criticize a teaching resource for something as abstract as art, particularly storytelling.
I've noticed that every time (literally every single time without fail) that someone complains about Sanderson's lectures, they don't provide an alternative resource for learning the basics.

>>25019847
the 'basics' is goal, complication, outcome, everything else is dressing up a pig

>>25019856
Okay? I didn't ask what the basics were. I said to link a better resource for beginners

Discuss your favorite Dungeon Crawler Carl side characters.

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It slipped my mind but I've started posting my story on RR and SB.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/147524/a-game-of-cosmic-titans

>>25019898
Ew.

>>25019898
I don't think its side characters are that good personally.
Carl/Donut were the only interesting ones. I didn't like Katia
The sex doll head was funny at times and so was the llama. But those are gimmicks

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>>25019842
The value is that when people come in and have absolutely no idea what they're doing, Sando gives them a framework to build off of.
Frankly there needs to be something about how to write sentences that are pleasing to read, then something about paragraphs, and a primer on grammar in there as well. Or we need a reaction image to mock people who can't keep tense straight.

>>25019898
None of them, because none of them are sexy women. Everything is either queer or safe-horny and it's r****t as fuck. In fact after several minutes of thinking I don't have a favorite side character in any of the stories I'm reading currently, which indicates I need to go back to my roots and read harem LNs for a bit.

>>25019903
i will now read your story

>>25019847
The best source for learning the basics is reading. A lot.

>>25019934
>sentences that are pleasing to read
So, active prose?

>>25019934
>safe-horny
>censoring reddit
>forgetting Elle
>reading harem LNs
There is so much wrong with this post.

>>25019945
*voice

>>25019940
Obviously that's a requirement to creating interesting stories.
But after multiple dodges I'll take it that you agree that Sanderson's lectures are the best resource by far (flawed as they might be)

>>25019945
As one small factor among many?
Dogmatically changing passive sentences to active won't fix shitty sentence-level writing

>>25019934
I'm going to do the same, it's been awhile since I read some light novels. Perhaps this still refresh my like for web novels

I was scrolling through my unsorted downloads folder for a picture of anime girls from a harem anime and just so happened to come across a random picture that inspired me out of my writer's block for the ending to one of my fictions. It's gonna be good. Thanks, /wng/!

>>25019934
>Frankly there needs to be something about how to write sentences that are pleasing to read
Style: Lessons in Clarity and Grace

>>25019903
wife

Should I read Mirror Legacy?

>>25019345
Why is MLA still not on here?

>>25019414
reborn as a demonic tree is a pretty cool name and premise but I can never trust english wuxia/xianxia on royalroad because they always seem to get more understanding of the genre from reddit memes than from reading original works.
and wuxia with litrpg just gives me the heebie-jeebies

>>25019522
litrpg where mc gets gains more xp the more drunk he is and has a quest to OUT BY THE ROOTS all the continent's teetotalers when

>>25019583
and yet you don't write it into your novel.
>>25019601
most scribblehub smutnovels seem to be written by futa fetish weeaboos.
i liked Capture Target.

>>25019660
>the xianxia readers themselves are the trolls
i mean you've surely seen the reverend insanity posting in every thread, this shouldn't be a question

>>25019414
I don't have a hard time self-inserting as a tree, but I found this novel (I read it on Kindle) generic and boring, and I was unable to finish the first book. It, like the average chinese manhwa it is inspired from, feels rushed, emotionless, and just... generic. No depth to the characters, even lesser to the world, and the premise of being a tree is basically non-existent nor explored. Truly wasted potential.

There are a few spergs that have a melty any time xianxia is mentioned. Sad!

>>25020074
I downloaded it a few weeks ago after hearing good things. Maybe I'll read it next and post some thoughts here.

Elysium Falls is pretty good in the mean time. Definitely wears the disco elysium inspiration on its sleeve. Tina anon might like it because it definitely reads like more of a noir detective thriller than a progression fantasy OPMC power fantasy (despite the time loop).

>>25019903
did you want feedback?

author HAET comments

>>25020198
Scared, more like.