>Attached to this post you will find an Epub of DCC 8. This is NOT the final final version as there's a ton of typos and formatting issues, etc., but it's relatively close. Please do not share this. If this ends up on every book pirate site on the planet like the book 7 file, PRH is gonna have a huge issue with me doing this in the future.
https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/5429305/post/150379309

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Last thread we did some dialogue. This time, we're looking for something more intense.

/wng/ Thread Quest #3:

Write an action scene. There is no requirement on length.

Action can arguably be the most important part of a WN. Do it well and you'll have readers far more invested than they were before.

When you're done, feel free to post it and/or any thoughts you had while writing it. Giving feedback to your fellow sloppers is also encouraged.

Good luck, and have fun!

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>it's another "guy comments tftc back to back on all the gillion chapters of my story" episode

>>25085741
We love our superfans, don't we folks?

>>25085360
>>does nothing but fight tentacle monsters and masturbate for the first 40 chapters with nary another character in sight.
>Who the fuck can read that, how, and why?
It has
>7.32M Views 226015 Favorites 638 Chapters 5 Chapters/Week 7937 Readers
And that's not counting RR where it's cross posted.

i uploaded a chapter today

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>>25085652
Frank aggressively reversed his Kämpfer mobile trooper away from the makeshift metallic ramparts. His Shinra MT allies ignored his warnings and remained at their posts, firing down on the enemy Tacoma MT below. Moments later, Frank shielded his eyes as a blinding light shrouded his panoramic paneling—they were atomized, caught in the blast of a Star Dreadnought's bombardment.

There was no one left. His radar blinked rapidly red with enemy signatures as the Tacoma wheeled in over the crater. Frank kept moving; laz bolts shadowed his Kämpfer at every step. He couldn't afford to stop, let alone take a parthian shot at his Tacoma pursuers; among them, the unmistakable Red Blitz.

He reached a chest-level wall and wheeled over it to crouch behind. With his repeater rifle at the ready, he spun and fired off incessant shots. It wasn't long before the barrel ran red and his trigger funny became numb. He yanked the accelerator and pulled back.

One Tacoma had fallen, but it wasn't a fatal shot to Frank's dismay. Its backside burst open as an escape pod rocketed off into space but like any mobile trooper pilot he gave it mercy and didn't fire on it. A glance at his blinking ammunition bar—he couldn't fire it, not under this heavy plasma suppression.

His escape didn't last long. Tacoma platoons closed in on him from everywhere, his radar went so haywire he was sure it was going to short-circuit from the sheer overload of data.

"Damn!" Frank muttered; his teeth clattered. If only Lawrence or even Victoria were here... he was just a rookie! He squeezed his joysticks. All he does is get everyone else killed, but now it was time to face the music.

He was backed to the wall. With nowhere else to go, Frank turned to face his foes. His pavise shield was rised and he took one final burst of shots before the gun click rang in his ears.

He charged forward, the shield pelted yet soaked up plasma rounds.

He rammed into the nearest Tacoma—his visual feeds garbled from the impact. Without a moment to waste, Frank resorted to the most basic caveman instincts and swung the repeater rifle overhead and clubbed the Tacoma with it. He did it again for good measure, and it was then it exploded—Frank pulled away.

In the balleria spin that followed, Frank ripped the chain belt of neutron bombs out of his Kampfer's mechanical backpack. It uncurled like a stream of death as Frank dashed between the Tacoma ranks. His dome cockpit shook uncontrollably from the shock absorbers, and even so, for Frank, it made him queasy.

He fired off his Kämpfer's head vulcan cannons and ignited the daisy chain that engulfed the Tacoma ranks in a fiery flash.

He tossed what remained of the mine belt and ignited his photon naginata. There was still no end to them—he merely took out a platoon, more followed as they cut through the aftermath.

Frank glanced behind him—it was a deep hole. He grinned as more Tacoma bore down on him, and he retreated into its abyss.

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>—

>>25085855
>he doesn't have alt151 on muscle memory

>>25085782
>tags: futa, multiple bodies
Yeah, you can keep you gay shit

>>25085862
>he doesnt have double dash set to auto convert

>>25085628
Does anyone have a "backwards" writing problem?
Like, I start a chapter in the midst of an important conversation. And later realize, there is too much stuff, and write a prequel to that chapter, and that chapter ends up becoming too uneventful.

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Are world maps a meme? Or do you like them?

Here's a map for something I'm working on.

>>25085863
Futa is straight

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>>25085904
I like maps.

I'm looking for someone to do chapter swaps with and genuine critique. I have two chapters done so far, and want to communicate over discord.

Anyone ever blocked a commenter?
I'm getting tired of this guy's shit. Normally I would just hide it but I worry he's poisoning reader sentiment with his poorly founded criticism and histrionics.

>>25085948
my story was already damaged rating wise so when a guy came and left 5 nitpicking seperate chapter nerd negativity I just blocked

tried to be nice at 2-3 but 4-5 without any positive or feedback of what I answered that was too much

>>25085904
I've found that very few wns have them or need them, they are more a tradpub thing. I was actually extremely shocked when a new story I was reading suddenly added a very professional looking map at around chapter 20 - that can't have been cheap.

>>25085904
>Are world maps a meme?
I think they're useful for keeping spatial relationships between locations and scale in mind especially for travel purposes, but I think fancier ones are kind of a wasted effort/meme if you aren't a hobby artist or aren't getting published commercially.

There's a reason subway maps are super simplified and more focused on just showing what is where relative to what than presenting a real map.

Also, if your story isn't well fleshed out or done, maps of the world/large geographic areas are going to be one of the things most likely to conflict with your writing (meaning you might want to keep it in your bible only), whereas smaller maps for areas only a limited time will be spent in won't really be something readers appreciate.

And time spent drawing maps that look good is time that could have been spent drawing characters that look good.

>>25085961
>my story was already damaged rating wise
Good stories don't get 'damaged rating wise'. If your story has a low rating then it's most likely garbage.
I am happy to be corrected though, post couple of chapters and I will objectively tell you if your rating was justified or not.

>>25086010
Also map nerds are nitpicky and don't deserve to have nice things.

>That mountain range would have a desert in its rain shadow
>Those continental plates don't make any sense
>Diamonds wouldn't be found there
blah blah blah blah blah

Piece of advice, if you aren't a geologist, topographer, climatologist, and anthropologist, don't go down the realistic maps rabbit hole. Just make sure all your settlements have a fresh water supply and source of food and, if anyone bitches about anything beyond that, tell them a god did it as a joke.

>>25085904
There's no point to revealing a full world map. Sci-fi only kind of gets away with it because lableled systems could never possibly represent all the stars.

>>25086021
people with this kind of arrogance who say they can objectively determine ratings are always the sort of people who would easily get tricked into rating even the best published novels as a 1.5/5
you just want something to shit on. nothing on earth would actually get a compliment from you

How abusive toward women can I make my MC? I think women should be treated as objects, and I wonder of the RR community agrees.

>>25086129
Let me guess: female mc/lead, romantasy pretending to be litrpg, lgbt side character, they/them, poor dialogue and no real story? Did I get it right?

>>25086151
im not even that first anon (and not even close for my own story) but it's hilarious seeing you vomit out all your trigger words

>>25086156
What's hilarious about it? Do you think I like vomiting out all those words?

Do people even look at ratings? I have shit taste, so I've never bothered. I'll look at wordcount, chapter count, blurb, tags, genre, and I'll browse a few reviews for any glaringly negative ones bitching about cardboard characters or with giant spoiler blocks screeching about how the series turns to complete shit at exactly X point and why, but I've almost never look at ratings. I've seen absolutely garbage shit rated 4.7/5 just cause most people have shit taste and I've seen truly great series rated 1.5/5 just cause the first few chapters or so are rough to get through or there wasn't a controversial tag included that should have been.

And when I do look at ratings it's only cause everything else gave me a bad vibe, but nothing was a dealbreaker. It's a test of last resort.

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>>25085904
You have to put a lot of work to make things work, but once you do it, it's worth the time spent.

>>25086199
Even the Rising Stars algorithm doesn't care about it.

>>25086181
>What's hilarious about it? Do you think I like vomiting out all those words?
I'll give begrudging credit where its due. I was working on an Isekai. An anon who I thought was a bit assumption heavy was commenting. But the anon made a wisecrack. Hey anon. You going MC gets OP in chapter 15 or chapter 16? I'm curious. I was writing on it as he posted that. I was just beginning the MC is starting to get their power. It began in chappie 15. The MC realized what was going on and dealt with the shock of it, in 16. I never posted a thing. I never talked about it, nothing. It was eerie, LMAO.

>>25086181
fragile people are amusing

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I want to write beautiful prose that people could enjoy for decades to come, but I drop to like 50 words an hour. Maybe 100 if I'm locked in.

Meanwhile the big shots on RR are cranking out a chapter every nanosecond

Recommend me something i'm getting desperate.

My favorites are:
Spire's Spite
Elydes
A Practical Guide To Sorcery

Honestly don't know where to look for good series, all the most popular ones are absolute slopshit.

>>25086277
So like the anon who blocked critical reviewers?

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>>25086301

>>25086303
nah, its just good moderation to ban the people spamming negative comments every chapter. ruins the atmosphere for other commenters. leave a negative review if you want but dont be a pest

>>25086300
I can do like 10/min. 20/min if I'm doing good. According to the math, 2 or 3 chapters should be no issue for me every day. And yet I barely do one. My self-hate is never ending. Genuinely, the desire to write more has brought me the closest to actually turning to God out of everything in my life.

For what it's worth, truly great prose isn't much of an advantage on RR. Good Enough is that, good enough. Beige and easy to read might be the best choice.

>>25086308
Shoulda called it Hot N Cold

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTHNpusq654

>>25086301
Reverend Insanity

>>25086348
I will never read this because of how annoying you are.

>>25086325
>My self-hate is never ending

In a hyper perfectionist type of way that leaves you unsatisfied with your work?

>>25086362
Weirdly no, I'm happy with the quality of my writing. Once I write, I can go back, read it, and usually I feel good about it. It's specifically about my lack of consistent output.

>>25086301
try infinite realm
you seem progression-focused

>>25086301
Elydes has some of the worst writing I've ever seen... Hard to think what you would even consider slop at this point

>>25086301
Enjoyment is subjective, so you need to find out what commonalities there are in what you enjoy and seek that out specifically. Shitty fanfic slop that hits the right beats for you will be better than someone else's absolute peak (and objectively better works). That's why tropes and more recently trope-based-searching and signaling exists. People know what they want and seek it out.
What is it you enjoy in those three stories?

>>25086301
> all the most popular ones are absolute slopshit.
Which ones have you tried?

> A Practical Guide To Sorcery
Sadly this series may never get finished. Seems like the author is seriously ill and every update seems to suggest she's not going to get any better.

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>>25086376
all those and more are slop, i disagree on elydes having bad writing.

>>25086389
calling DCC slop but shadow slave not slop is really extremely funny to me
i know taste is taste but jesus

>>25086396
Shadow Slave is slop but it does have substance on a macro level
DCC has no substance either on the micro or macro level

>>25086389
i forgot stormreaver existed. what a dogshit book. one of the co-authors is a mod on the prog fantasy reddit and had a tantrum like 2 years ago when they added an LGTV flag icon to the sub and people questioned it. full-on caps lock telling people how wrong they were lol
>>25086397
>DCC has no substance either
lol

>>25086397
Okay, it appears you are retarded. I'm sorry you were a head-dropped baby.

>>25086397
dcc has real emotional work and competent prose. shadow slave has barely tolerable prose and no impactful emotional work, though does have interesting setting and plot ideas (the only reason I kept reading it as far as I did)

>>25086355
>i will never read one of the greatest (if not the greatest) webnovel of our times
>because i got annoyed on 4chan

>>25086022
Personally, I'm happy as long as there is no retardation like the snow region and the desert region being next to each other.

I haven't posted in a few weeks... did the captcha level up or what? Feels like it's creeping into 3D spatial reasoning tier; they're actually challenging to solve now.

>>25086400
>>25086396
I havent tried all of those, DCC is reddit humor the series.

I also liked Delve and Bog standard isekai.

I am willing to concede the fact that Elydes has some extremely annoying characters.

I have read Shadow Slave and it is sloppy for sure, liked the start, then just continued because i had nothing better to do.

>>25086410
They want to make posting as difficult as possible.

>>25086410
>>25086415
It's the opposite. It's gotten easier and the number of challenges decreased to 2

Does the protagonist have to be active in the first chapter?

>>25086435
Yes, prologues are WN poison

>>25086439
What do you define as a prologue?

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>>25085926
haters still haven't provided a better world than this

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>>25086444
I thought Way of Kings had two prologues but Sandersnoy corrected me: It has THREE prologues. No wonder I couldn't finish that piece of shit.

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Gonna read the Overlords novels.
Does anyone think these covers are kinda overkill?

>>25086517
the world isn't the issue everyone has with RI lmao

>>25086542
Besides Skeletor and the Yandere Succubus i have no idea what the fuck is happening there

>>25086444
Nta, but,
-Anything that is titled as a prologue
-Having the starting chapter of a story be about an event that initially has no relevance to the main character or plot and means nothing to the audience
-Same as above, but pointless history and worldbuilding that nobody is invested in yet

>>25086517
>>25086201
I did.

>>25086404
Nothing good comes from listening to rabid spammers. There are no exceptions.

>>25086542
I tried to read this bullshit, but it had the problem of literally no fucking likeable characters. Interesting sure, but likeable? Nope. And the antagonists weren't particularly interesting and were less hateable than the protagonist. I genuinely don't get the point.

>>25086542
> Gonna read the Overlords novels.
This is a great example of how quickly a story can become boring when the MC is too OP right from the start.

>>25086733
the mc being op from the start is literally the only fun part of Overlord. it's everything else it does (refusing to focus on the mc) (mc being evil and generally boring) (boring fanservice) that makes it shit lmao

>>25086751
This. Also, the fact that it kills off any actually interesting characters whenever they feel like it.
"Wow, I totally didn't see that coming for the twentieth time."

>>25086733
>This is a great example of how quickly a story can become boring when the MC is too OP right from the start.
The entire fucking point of OP protagonists is to use them being OP to get past the boring action bullshit quickly so you can get back to the good stuff. Overlord's problem is it doesn't have good stuff. I wouldn't want to share a 5 minute bus ride with Ainz or his crew, let alone spend multiple fucking volumes with them. At least the Redo of Healer nutbag is insane.

Also, Overlord would be shit even if Ainz wasn't OP. Actual great example is Instant Death.

>>25086618
You forgot
>Anything before they transmigrate
>Anything before they stop flashing forward if it's a reincarnation story
>Anything before they regress

>>25086598
me neither
>>25086680
Demiurge is likable.
>>25086733
Lack of stakes isn't the issue. The main appeal of the series is Ainz doing evil stuff like committing genocide and enslaving people.
In some ways, it's like WW2 from Hitler's POV if he was secretly insecure person.

>>25085904
I hate maps. They're all the same. That's why I'm including a totally useless map in my story as a joke.

>>25086879
>I hate maps. They're all the same.
I guess you don't like Paradox games.

>>25086928
I dont even know what that fucking is. But know this: I dont give a shit how far away your Arahas desert is from the capital city of Itannicnic. I dont care if it's 500 miles away or 10,000 miles away, or on another goddamn continent. When writing a book it can take 500 pages to travel around the world, or a single sentence. Distance and time does not matter in literature.

>>25086986
>When writing a book it can take 500 pages to travel around the world, or a single sentence. Distance and time does not matter in literature.
Relativity matters in literature and through it time and distance.

If character A starts walking towards location B from 50 miles away at the same time as character C who is 500 miles away, A better get there before C or have a really good reason why they didn't.

>>25087000
You're 100% wrong. In Orlando Furioso, you've got 50 characters and 12 armies marching, galloping, flying all over the fucking place, even to the moon, and it doesn't matter how fast or slow they travel because it's all fucking magic. The only thing that mattered was cutting out the boring parts. Orlando goes insane, strips naked, and runs all across Europe beating people to death and no one can catch him, mount or no, and it works, and no map is necessary to trace his rampage.

>>25086986
>I dont even know what that fucking is.
Those are "map-painters", i.e., the entire game is on a map.
>Distance and time does not matter in literature.
I get your point. And you are right, it doesn't really matter, unless you have multiple points of view characters who are all in different parts of the world.

>>25086542
I like the anime, but the novel was like 1st pov stream of consciousness. It was terrible.

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>>25085652
>>25085850
Ended up expanding this into a full chapter. I think these thread prompts can be handy. I think it came out well. It's ch7.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/147524/a-game-of-cosmic-titans

>>25087017
Magic is what one could call a "really good reason" dipshit.

But "a wizard did it" doesn't fucking work in a lot of fucking settings.

i think i will write the don quixote of litRPG WNs

>>25087082
It works in literally every setting, actually, because the memetic concept of "wizard" implies capability and action without conceivable motives.

>>25085850
So do you mind if I give critique on this?

>>25086542
I got the first volume just because of the badass cover. Too bad the text was unreadable diarrhea

>>25087180
Why so hyperbolic? The capability not existing is the same as wizards not existing in the context of the conversation. This matters because not every world is built on play dough, if you can teleport everywhere why have journeys for example? Looking at a map at the beginning of a book and thinking about where we might end up going is a source of great joy and I am sad you would do away with it.

>>25087256
Wizards definitionally can teleport, even if they tell you they can't, and they also go on journeys anyways for inscrutable reasons.
If you don't understand this, you simply don't understand wizards.

Your post is a mess by the way and reveals the disorganized and overly emotional state of your mind.
>The capability not existing is the same as wizards not existing in the context of the conversation.
Wizards fit in every setting because they definitionally have all capabilities. Thus "a wizard did it" is always a valid justification in all settings.

>Looking at a map at the beginning of a book and thinking about where we might end up going is a source of great joy and I am sad you would do away with it.
You're confusing a statement of fact with a recommendation I didn't make. It's really not that deep, but you're in your feelings so you do you queen, just finish off that tub of ice cream, who cares.

>>25087288
I'm sorry youre too 'overly emotional' to comprehend wizards not existing. I hope you get better.

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>there could be wizards here

>>25087204
shrug

>>25087244
I'm beginning to think that as well. It begins with this:
>Before one girl and another even younger one stood a figure in full plate armor brandishing a sword.
>The blade swung, sparkling in the sunlight as if to say that taking their lives in a single stroke would be an act of mercy.
>The girl shut her eyes. She didn’t want to be biting her lower lip. She just had no choice but to accept what was about to happen. If she had even a little power, she probably would have been able to shove the figure away and escape…
>But she was powerless.
>And so there was only one ending.
>She would die.
>The blade came down—
>…The pain still hadn’t come.
>She unscrunched her eyes.
>The first thing she saw was the sword, stopped mid-swing.
>The next was the figure holding the sword. The knight was practically frozen, looking at something off to her side. His unprotected stance manifested his internal shock.
>The girl turned to follow his line of sight…
>…and saw despair.
>It was darkness.
Wtf is this? Like, what can you even say about this?

>>25087288
>Wizards fit in every setting because they definitionally have all capabilities
Actually wizards only have semi-phenomenal, nearly cosmic powers.

>>25087332
>before one girl
Stopped reading there. I don't understand why people write male oriented fantasy/adventure, often explicitly stating no harem, no romance, no smut and then start their story with "a girl".

>>25087378
Can you live five seconds without being triggered by the existence of women?

>>25087332
Why is this considered bad writing? I am new here.

>>25087450
You're supposed to be over 18 to browse this website

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>>25087454
I've just turned 18.

>>25087405
I am not triggered, I am genuinely interested in why authors do that.

Return of the Archmage almost fell off the front page, reviews calling it out on being a senseless, AI-generated mess and trying to hide it. The author just casually added "AI-assisted" tag and bounced back up to top 3, despite his story still being a pure clanker clusterfuck. Incredible. I kneel.

>>25087450
I get what the author is going for, but the prose is just so uninteresting.

>>25087450
Good storytelling should sound like something you could imagine coming out of a real person’s lips. This could be a stranger at a bar telling you tall tales about his time in the army, a kindly grandfather reciting a folktale he heard when he was your age, or even an e-celeb talking about how he caught his wife cheating on him. Sure, this effect has been diluted somewhat by the inclusion of stat sheets and system notifications in litRPGs - and this is probably why something like DCC that tries to weave this stuff into the narration is so popular with normies.
The excerpt Anon posted doesn’t sound like something a human being would ever say.
Nobody talks in these short snippets.
Nobody tries to direct the listener’s imagination as if it’s a movie.
And nobody does something…
Like this.
Considering you can’t see line breaks in IRL conversations.
This.
This right here wouldn’t even make sense spoken aloud.

>>25087481
its really that easy to hit RS so why does everyone struggle

I've been thinking about wn fantasy genre and character progression and levelling up.
There must a solitary exploration arc or multiple arcs in a good story. A character must explore a secret realm, a dungeon, some ruins in a forbidden land on his own. The powers, spells, abilities, the experiences he gains don't have to be epic but they must be unique to his character, and exist elsewhere in the story.
The issue I encounter quite often is a character obtaining a new unique ability only to find out later in the story that his ability is not new or unique and was simply left there by the powerful established figures for him to find, and the plot turning out to be those same powerful figures secretly guiding the mc, letting him grow, for the purpose of him becoming some sort of hero or something like that.

>>25087316
Alright. I'll keep it fairly short. This scene is bland, boring, and betrays some larger problems with your writing.

First issue. There's no tactility to it at all. Things happen but it never feels like you're part of the scene being depicted. You can go overboard with this easily, of course, but let's take even one of your sentences.
>He reached a chest-level wall and wheeled over it to crouch behind.
I have no clue what your setting is like, but here's a quick attempt to fluff this up a little.
>He rammed his foot into the pedal, pushing it as deep it they could go. Laz bolts screamed overhead, flashing brightly across the screen. He leant back, feeling the pressure of the acceleration push him into his chair, then disengaged the throttle as quickly as he could when he reached a chest-level wall. The wheels squeaked as he threw his machine over the wall, crouched, and spun.
Writing like this you could easily expand your writing by a significant extent and establish the scene far better. You also establish the emotional stakes here better by doing that.

Especially for fight scenes, I think this is a vital skill to master.

Second issue. You use words like "parthian shot" (ought to be "Parthian"), "incessant" and the like. Contrasting these you make simple mistakes like "trigger funny", "was rised", "balleria spin", "and it was then it exploded". There's multiple alliterations here like "fiery flash", "makeshift metallic". There's cliches like "time to face the music", "caveman instincts", "stream of death", "abyss". Each of these separately give an impression of being undercooked, added together they just make the entire segment feel amateurish.

Third issue. It doesn't make much sense. Frank (bad naming sense IMO) struggles with hitting a single Tacoma, loses his rifle by smashing a Tacoma with it, and then barrels through another. Then he takes out an entire platoon with a single maneuver. One single Tacoma is a hard foe to beat, a platoon can be anything from 10 to 50 people and basically gets handled with a single explosion easily enough. These Tacoma don't do anything, either. They just approach him menacingly but there's no description of a Tacoma actually doing anything except that. They don't have guns or anything to fire? Nothing?

Fourth issue is that there's no clear objectives here. Frank's objective is presumably to survive and at the end of the scene he achieves it by simply going into The Hole. Which was never mentioned before and therefore feels like a bit of an asspull. If Frank has been searching for a way out, no matter how small of a chance that it might have been, then the audience should be aware of it. If Frank stumbles across this hole by chance then he's got pretty shit situational awareness.

There's nothing here that's not fixable, though.

>>25087670
Most Jap isekai just starts with it. The god(dess) of the other world gives the mc a set of powers before they even spawn in.

>>25087707
That's why they are garbage.

>>25087670
Writing interesting exploration is difficult. The author needs to have genuine passion for it, imagination, eye for detail and aesthetic sense, on top of good writing skills. More than that, he needs to sell his vision in a way that isn't cool only in his own head. Most people can't do this. Neither do most people want to read it. They want the treasure without the effort of digging it up. But the payoff still needs some flimsy excuse to exist, for the story to make a lick of sense. Hence, gifts from above

>>25087332
I'm getting a headache from reading this. It's impressively bad.
>>25087450
Read it out loud. The sentences don't flow.

>>25087958
>But the payoff still needs some flimsy excuse to exist, for the story to make a lick of sense. Hence, gifts from above
If it's a specially prepared gift for the mc then any payoff disappears the moment that fact is revealed.

>>25087973
Most people just don't think that deeply on it

>>25087958
This is basically why Hidden Realms are other "MMO Dungeon by another name" type places are the soup de jour

>>25087959
Nothing is wrong with it structurally — it reads clearly and the tension is strong — but there are a few spots where wording, clarity, or flow could be tightened for impact.

>>25087670
>There must a solitary exploration arc or multiple arcs in a good story.
No? Builder series don't necessarily involve exploration at all. The hero's journey is a great formula, but it's not some sort of natural law. It's just a model designed to cover as many stories as possible.

>The powers, spells, abilities, the experiences he gains don't have to be epic but they must be unique to his character, and exist elsewhere in the story.
That's not true at all. The abilities a character gets don't matter anywhere as much as what they try to do with them.

>>25087973
>If it's a specially prepared gift for the mc then any payoff disappears the moment that fact is revealed.
What if it's prepared ad hoc? The story I'm reading right now is a litRPG where the classes people unlock are tailored for them by the gods, even to the point of the creation of new classes or class modifiers for people that do especially novel shit (e.g. there's a clan with a hereditary class created for their ancestor's heroics). The MC herself doesn't even have a unique class yet where I'm at in the story, but one of her party members just unlocked a class with a unique modifier created for her because the party's on a mission from god which itself isn't even unusual because the gods keep in regular communication with mortals.

Also there's no destined chosen one nonsense. The gods have individual interests and even set people against each other. The closest you get is each god has a favored race with higher base stats than normal races and at least 2 gods are allowed champions with better growth on top of that. But they haven't been introduced where I'm at in the story and the only thing I know about them so far is that one of them gets significantly more class options when they unlock a new class than a normal person's 2-4.

>>25088636
>>There must a solitary exploration arc or multiple arcs in a good story.
>No? Builder series don't necessarily involve exploration at all. The hero's journey is a great formula, but it's not some sort of natural law. It's just a model designed to cover as many stories as possible.
How else is the mc going to acquire magic and unique experiences without exploring the world?

>>The powers, spells, abilities, the experiences he gains don't have to be epic but they must be unique to his character, and exist elsewhere in the story.
>That's not true at all. The abilities a character gets don't matter anywhere as much as what they try to do with them.
True. My point was more about unique skills and unique experiences that will shape the character. For example, if that specific event was influenced by other events in the story, if those experiences were planned by other more powerful characters for the mc to 'accidently' find them, that final transformation will be known to others in the story, predictable and not very exciting. Missing the cool factor.
If the events that lead to the mc acquiring experience are not influenced by other events or characters in the story, that brings unpredictability because no one really knows how the mc will transform, how will he act.

I've been reading some random wn and the story started with the mc being possesed by an evil spirit, for a while it was fun and exciting because it was unrpedictable (mc, evil spirit, the conflict between then, weird magic), later in the story mc was saved by a group of wizards from some magical college, the evil spirit was destroyed and the mc got to keep a somewhat op power that belonged to the spirit, at that point all the mystery just disappeared. They are now working together to fight evil people, there is literally no mystery left, mc is known to all, his character, his magical powers, his goals, everything is known to all the characters in the story (It has turned to slog, I don't want to read it anymore).
This kind of storytelling is probably more common in traditional fantasy but it's not suitable for webnovels.

>>25088680
If gods granting powers were unconnected to the further plot then that would be fine, but gods granting powers and then later participating in the story is exactly what talked about. You can replace gods with any other strong magical entity (court wizards, academy headmasters, old grampa wizards living in the forest etc) and it literally would make no difference.

Got some MC ideas (OPMC, archmage, loner, etc.), now I just need a plot. Any ideas?

>>25088796
if you're not plotbrained enough to have your own autistically detailed plot before you even have characters or any other ideas, then don't lean into plot
just write well chapter by chapter and rely on atmosphere and vibes

>>25088796
Take a story you like, then reverse engineer the plot to your world and characters.

>>25087308
wizards<cultivators

>>25087699
I see, thanks.

>>25088707
>How else is the mc going to acquire magic and unique experiences without exploring the world?
By changing the world around them. You should try reading a farm/business/dungeon/city/kingdom builder. Rather than going out on some epic journey, the story is set up more like a big rock getting chucked in a small pond. The main character's actions ripple out in bigger and bigger ways and eventually the world starts to react to them when people responding to those actions come to the main character as new friends or foes. Any journeys outside their base of operations tend to be short side quests to help petitioners. It's a fun collection of genres.

>>25088720
>You can replace gods with any other strong magical entity (court wizards, academy headmasters, old grampa wizards living in the forest etc) and it literally would make no difference
So you have a problem with characters more powerful than the MC giving them aid? Bruh.

>>25089006
Yeah I've never heard of anyone having an issue with this, The Chosen One getting their powers from the divine or some other source much greater than themselves has been a trope for as long as humans have recorded stories.

>>25089080
>Yeah I've never heard of anyone having an issue with this
I've seen lots of people complaining about freebies, cheat skills, etc
Thing is, they contradict themselves in classic retarded reader fashion by saying
>I want the MC to be a noname peasant who isn't a genius or given a special bloodline or any other cheat
>but I also want them to become strongest in world
without realizing how fucking stupid that is

>>25089086
>>I want the MC to be a noname peasant who isn't a genius or given a special bloodline or any other cheat
>>but I also want them to become strongest in world
I've seen this a ton on /tg/, usually by the guys that are obsessed with trying to play helmeted faceless grunt characters

>>25089090
>i'm retarded and talentless but give me a story that makes me believe I can become the next world dominator
it's honestly embarrassing

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What kind of cover will sell my "master of maids" litrpg webnovel? My writing isn't very generic isekai, so I want to show that with the cover art.

Furthermore, should I separate lewd sections from their chapters or avoid them altogether for RR?

>>25089144
>should I separate lewd sections from their chapters or avoid them altogether for RR?
depending on what you mean your fiction might just be denied outright lol. rr is very strict about lewds these days

>>25089144
>What kind of cover will sell my "master of maids" litrpg webnovel? My writing isn't very generic isekai, so I want to show that with the cover art.
Covers are effective because they can signal existing fan bases. Your desire to signal against an existing fanbase while still "working" is fundamentally contradictory.

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>>25089147
I read something about a 15% rule.. I'd say about half of every third chapter or so is explicit sex. I assume this will get me pwnd?

>>25089152
The 15% rule is old. Explicit sex once every ten chapters will still get you pwned these days. RR is a SFW site, all nsfw works like blue core and ELLC are just grandfathered in

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>>25089151
It's still going to have 1 or more cute girls on it, I was talking about the art style itself.

>>25089158
Covers are effective because they dog whistle an audience. You're saying you want to dog whistle a counter-audience. It's contradictory.
Just make a standard cover and sell your readers in the story itself.

>>25089156
So what's the rule/ratio now? Because I'm fairly sure they haven't explicitly banned any and all sexual content, if that were the case there would be no need for a tag.

>>25089156
What sites do I use instead? I'm not interested in making a bunch of money, I just want like minded readers to enjoy my story.

I know of scribblehub and webnovel

>>25085904
I think it's smarter to have a vague or general idea how the map in your world is, if you go full autist and map everything it could hinder the story later on. "Oh no I can't do that the big cum lake is in the way!"

>>25089169
There is no hard rule, introducing something like that invites line-toers.
RoyalRoad doesnt want NSFW works.
Look, here's a simple proof by reality: What's the last story that performed on RR with a sex scene every ten chapters?
You sound new to RR but even veterans won't come up with anything 4 or less years old

>>25089172
For a smut litrpg? Definitely scribblehub, no contest
ao3 maybe competes if its lgbt
webnovel isnt in the running lol

>>25089175
I'm not new, the opposite, I'm old. In my head it's still 10% by chapter count.

>>25089184
If you're a regular how is it possible you haven't noticed that no nsfw works have done well for years?
Whether mod intervention or audience refusal, those stories dont exist

>>25089144
If your maids are for sex and not chores I am already bored of your work unfortunately.
Emma > Maid Dragon

>>25089197
>disgusting slut gets isekai'd
>ikemen god lets her choose her next life situation
>wants to be a maid in the hottest most lecherous noble's household
>wish granted bitch
>turns out he's got an unwarranted bad reputation because he keeps turning down noble sluts
>forces isekai'd maid slut to do chores up to his standards and corrects her loose morals
>MC gets forced to become a good person and realizes the error of her ways
>they get married and hold hands and are normal
Also put a wizard in it and make him powerful and mysterious

>>25089206
Alright, so she is for chores then. So what's the sex scenes for?

>>25089144
I've seen people use two options. They either post on RR with the R18+ chapters or sections removed, but with an authors say to say the story is posted in full elsewhere. Or they make those parts available as patreon only. The only story I've seen that RR actually removed, even though the smut had been deleted, was because one of the characters was the anime trope of 1000 years old but looked underage.

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>>25089210
That's the joke, there are no sex scenes. This vexes the MC.

>>25089182
>ao3 maybe competes if its lgbt
I don't recommend ao3 for anything but fanfiction, desu.

>>25087059
That seems to be very gundam inspired, so I guess I won't be able to appreciate it because only Gundam I have seen is War in the Pocket

>>25089214
>should I separate lewd sections from their chapters or avoid them altogether for RR?
So then you're not this guy. Got it. Your pitch is better than his. If you can actually write comedy it would even be worth reading. JK Haru is amongst the shittiest and most repulsive slop ever written, he said unbidden.

>>25089221
>JK Haru is amongst the shittiest and most repulsive slop ever written, he said unbidden.
My brother in Christ I could not agree more. I rarely get to express my disdain for that shit.

I would write it if I didn't have too many pans in the fire already. Maybe I could actually write a short 30 chapter novel for once instead of giant sprawling monstrosities. Even better if I ripped off Maas and Yarros' styles and plot-pacing to bait romantasy shlickers.

>>25089172
>What sites do I use instead? I'm not interested in making a bunch of money, I just want like minded readers to enjoy my story.
Pick where you upload by their search feature. Better the search feature, the more likely someone that actually wants to read your shit will find it.

>>25089215
some original-fic sex focused stuff does pretty good there though
literotica does even better admittedly
but if you're writing smut ao3 is definitely a site to consider, even if it's not fanfic

>>25089235
>Pick where you upload by their search feature. Better the search feature, the more likely someone that actually wants to read your shit will find it.
it doesn't matter how good the search feature is if there's not enough relevant users to look for it
total userbase + how receptive they are to what you're writing accounts for 98%, maybe more

>>25089236
Ao3's a fine site and there are some good original works there, but most of them are uploaded elsewhere and I'm not sure the audience for Ao3 is going to be going there for that. Not saying people shouldn't upload to Ao3, just that there are better options.

>>25089240
>it doesn't matter how good the search feature is if there's not enough relevant users to look for it
The counterpoint to that is it doesn't matter how many users would look for and love your story if they can't fucking find it cause the search system is absolute dogshit, see: webnovel

I mean fuck me, if you just wanted to cast the widest net possible, you could throw a video scroll of your series with a text to speech reading up on youtube. Userbase matters, but discoverability matters more.

>>25089221
>>25089234
iirc that was the one where the girl steals skills from men she sleeps with?

>>25089249
>just that there are better options.
You can't disagree like this and not give those alternatives.
Other websites with incredibly detailed search functions exist but they don't have users and so you don't get readers. It's just common sense.
>Userbase matters, but discoverability matters more.
Could not disagree more.

>>25089249
>>25089253
And as a side note, 99.9% of users don't even do advanced searches to begin with. The vast, VAST majority of users just search top/default lists

>>25089252
Yeah. She and her friend(?) get reincarnated and he's a huge simp, offers to protect her and doesn't expect sex in return (though he does want to date her oh and he has max cheat skills), though he does want a relationship with her, and she icks out so hard she sells herself into sex slavery in a brothel where she can copy skills (and I think stats) of everyone she sleeps with, eventually growing super OP herself. She makes no attempt to stop being a sex slave and the book is about how morally superior she is to the simp who was trying to be nice and never actually did anything wrong other than be lower than a 7/10 and think he had a shot with her.

It's extremely retarded and the MC is repulsive in all ways so reading is painful and I dropped it in like three pages and then read a summary years ago and try not to think about it since.

>>25089256
>And as a side note, 99.9% of users don't even do advanced searches to begin with. The vast, VAST majority of users just search top/default lists
And those users will never look at your shit if you aren't already doing well, so they don't matter.

If you need readers to do well and you need to do well to get most readers, you have to focus on the readers that are looking for new fucking shit.

>>25089253
>You can't disagree like this and not give those alternatives.
scribblehub and rr

>>25089271
>scribblehub and rr
dude what. I said sh is way better
and rr doesnt allow porn stories or even anything with more than one sex scene a book really
what a lame response, makes me not want to reply to other shit you said

>>25089262
Femcel revenge fantasies are always ten times more cringe than incel ones somehow

>>25089271
>If you need readers to do well and you need to do well to get most readers, you have to focus on the readers that are looking for new fucking shit.
If this was true the stories doing well on any given website would be
>new shit
and it very clearly isn't

>>25089297
>If this was true the stories doing well on any given website would be
>new shit
>and it very clearly isn't
1. Yeah, no shit. The longer a series sticks around, the more likely it is to be discovered, the more readers it will have. We were discussing where to post, not how to post. Older series do better everywhere as long as they remain ongoing.
2. I meant new for the reader, not necessarily actually new.

Try and make a coherent argument.

>>25089216
It's a marriage of Universal Century gundam and LOTGH. Specifically, these chapters borrow from CCA and Stardust Memory. Stardust and 8th MS Team are are good ones to check out since they're standalone and can be enjoyed without watching any other gundam. I gave all the early UC up to CCA a rewatch these past months with my partner who hasn't seen them so they were very beneficial to revisit for the sake of my writing.

>>25089288
M8, I didn't take issue with your scribblehub suggestion in the first place.

>>25089090
>>25089086
This is because they want to believe that they could be the strongest already, they just lack an opportunity to prove to the world that they're the best. It's a stupid mindset but it seems common.

>>25089380
The overlap between LOGH and Gundam fandoms is a mystery to me.

>>25089566
As an outsider to both here's my take
>Dudes in uniforms that look like sci-fi 1800s designs
>Some of these dudes ares nobles for some reason.
>Space battles with swarms of shit just having stand up head on fights with no sense of any strategy or maneuvering with massive casualties
>politics that's presented as deeper than it actually is followed by basic war bad message.

>>25089566
fujoshi

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I've been on a ton of webnovel platforms and I always hate how they try to monetize stuff without giving an ACTUAL incentive to write or have a proper quality to begin with.
I worked for a book store for several years in college and they were a member of something you could call a "publishing club". It is basically an exclusive mail order catalogue that you need to agree to buy a certain value of books per quarter to get access to.
In modern times, it's outdated, yes, but it used to be a great way for small-to-medium sized runs of books to persist because they could be paid even while underperforming for up-front costs to get into the catalog. If they didn't sell, they'd just stop writing or be dropped from the catalogue. Nothing for the hit sellers everyone wants to be but interesting for specialist literature (the store I worked for specialised on legal literature).
What if a derived system developed for webnovels?
>subscription of (let's say for example sake only) 5 bucks a month
>get 15 tokens with that subscription
>can buy 1 token per dollar extra
>authors offer the first few thousand of their words for free to draw in readers
>members use tokens to pay for all further content
>authors cash in tokens for 90% of the value (publisher taking its running cost cut)
>marketplace for artists, voice actors and translators to sell their service to authors
>actual service for proofreading and gauging quality

>>25089645
>paying for slop
yeah, no

>>25089646
Have you even read the post?
The entire point is to establish quality control and barrier to entry.

>>25089654
>quality control and barrier to entry
yeah, no. I want slop (for free).

>>25089654
>>25089645
What are you rambling about? You just described webnovel.com and fiver. People pay for what they want to read. The current state of the web novel scene is simply what it inevitably turns to when money is involved. "Quality" doesn't sell or is worth making because ordinary readers out there don't agree with your standards for it.

>>25089645
>premium currency for books
Why not just go full degenerate and have a lootbox system?

imagine spending 10 bux on a litbox and getting magical girl of despair

>>25089638
So fucking mad.
Did you even read it?

>>25089002
I guess it works for this particular genre.

>>25089006
Not exactly. I am only talking about the main character, how he gets his powers, it must not be tied to events and characters that happen or appear later in the story, or are signifact part of it. For example if story starts and ends with the mc born in some small village and ending up as the emperor (of the empire that his village is part of) then receiving the initial key powers or skills or magical knowledge must not come from characters any of the characters that play significant role throughout the story. If at the beginning of the story mc accidently fell into some spatial crack (1 in a trillion chance) and obtained some magic power from another dimension, which then disappeared and has no other connection to the story then that's fine. I can also accept isekai stuff as long as the character (or just his soul) getting transported to another world is a random event(not being summoned by some retard gods), not tied to the story in any other way.

>>25089094
That's what readers want. This thread is full of people whining about not getting popularity points on rr, yet they ignore you when you tell them what readers realy like and want, and just continue writing their own thing that nobody is interested in.

>>25089695
people want to write what they are passionate about and share it with others.

>>25089708
That's ok, but don't act confused when people ignore your work on rr

>erm achkushlly I am the one and only true arbiter of what is popular and good in spite of clear obvious to the contrary
Not a fan of this episode.

>>25089789
Ok, continue crying about not getting any followers or patreons subs.

>>25089807
who is/was crying?

Here's an idea.
>ancient archmage decides to retire to return to what he really loved about the job: teaching
>becomes a tutor to rich kids (under a disguise)
>one rich kid gets kidnapped after a tutoring session by Mysterious Bad Guys
>archmage heads off in pursuit, discovers a conspiracy/larger plot
There. You can wring a book out of that easily. It needs a name still, but that should be easy enough.

>>25089813
posters on /wng/

>>25089822
>archmage heads off in pursuit
Why would anyone risk their life to save an unrelated person?

>>25089826
I'm pretty sure the point of archmage stories is that they arent really risking much of anything, at any point, and its mostly just treating the world like a very well made game.

>>25089826
What?

>>25089823
link them.

>>25089826
because its the right thing to do

>>25089851
>>25089789

>>25089853
Wizards have no sense of right or wrong

>>25089807
Once again, stating that your subjective tastes are the monolith by which all webnovels are judged is retarded and childish. What's even more retarded is that there are multiple people that believe this somehow and that they're the right ones, so clearly someone is wrong. Or you're just here to grift.

>>25089851
>>25089896

>>25089874
>>25089916
Neither of those are complaining of their own failure. They don't mention stories they have published at all.

Wizards are not archmages. Archmages are notably less powerful/capable and their motives are far more scrutable.
An archmage could be expected to pursue a kidnapped student.
A wizard would appear to do nothing but the student would have the tools to free themselves thanks to the wizard's foresight, and the wizard would take the credit for their escape and necessary growth after (think dumbledore, but if he wasn't lame and gay).

>>25089896
Stop getting upset when people express their opinion and point of view. Silencing critics is not going to make your ESL slop better with no further effort on your part.

Someone saying "this is how it is in webnovels" is not personally attacking you," nor are they making a definitive mathematical assertion backed by proof: if you disagree with someone on 4chan, find counter examples and evidence for your view. Stop trying to turn /wng/ into a toxic positivity hugbox.

>>25089932
I'm not getting upset at you expressing your opinion. I'm getting upset that you're expressing your opinion as unarguable fact when you're legitimately delusional by saying shit like >>25087973

>>25089826
You know what, anon, regardless of what anyone else says, I appreciate your attempt to evoke the same questions that the idiot edgelord crowd on RR will have. It's a useful question.

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Heroine Maëlys is CUTE!!!

>>25089950
Fair if your story is in the top 10, but when it's somewhere in the ten thousands then even questions by idiot edgelors become relevant.

>>25089942
You're on 4chan and you're not nearly as good at picking out individual anonymous posters as you think you are. Even worse your posts are boring.
>no ACTUALLY I just
Just shut the fuck up. Nobody's doing what you're hallucinating. You're literally misreading the english sentences as written because you're ESL. Shut the fuck up. Nobody is saying something is inarguable fact, you just don't have any counterarguments because you're retarded, and instead of arguing you're trying to shut down all discourse.

Please start using a tripcode so I can filter you.

>>25089950
The high volume comment/review users on RR truly are wild.
>dozens of comments a day
>multi-comment rants when they don't like a twist
>next chapter it's like they factory reset and they pick some other niggle to quibble about
>maxed out reputation score
>average review score 3 or less
It makes me feel much better about my current level of grass-touching.

>>25089851
See
>>25085961
>>25087059
>>25079443
>>25079445
@25079785
@25080012
@25080021
@25081387
@25082069
@25083082
@25084380
can't link all of them due to filter.

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So here's my idea for how to post to RR.

"Fade to black" all lewd scenes, but on every other platform include them. This has the unfortunate effect that readers on RR will miss some character development, because sex without character development is lame. This does mean I'll have to emphasize all the other lewd aspects and fantasy elements when it comes to maids such as possession, submission, control, punishment. I see it as a good thing, everyone gets more of what they want!

>>25090014
Except nobody wants sex on RR.

>>25089991
Uh oh melty!

>>25089991
Nta but you have been posting like you're the authority on the matter if that was you the whole reply chain

>>25090014
RR is already based out of Isr**l you don't have to try and subvert it with lewd.

>>25090032
It's not, and the nature of anonymous posting means that tone policing is ineffective and boring. Just post counter-examples. It's so simple and much more interesting.
>b-b-b-but he was acting like an AUTHORITY on the matter, I have to attack his TONE rather than his ARGUMENT
feminine behavior

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>10M words
>Still ongoing
Chinese webslopper are built different

>>25090013
>25085961
this is about bad ratings and negative comments, not about failing to get views/subs, and nothing says the story is failing due to not targeting a WN audience
>25087059
this seems entirely unrelated
>25079443
>25079445
did you read these stories, identify that they are failing specifically due to not writing what readers want, tell them this, and get ignored, or are you simply taking generic doomposting and expanding it in the direction that best fulfils the fantasy you have about posters here?
>25079785
this is just saying the japanese have it easier.
not checking the rest, going to assume you're just lumping every person here under a blanket "didn't write to market and are failing because of that any nothing else" and move on.

>>25089966
The only thing worse than AI art is AI art with shit out of place filters over it to hide that it's AI art.

>>25090038
>Chinese webslopper are built different
Protip: Shit like this is written by literal teams working in parallel to fill out different parts of an outlined plot.

>>25090044
I don't mind the AI art that isn't obvious. There's a certain look to bad AI art that makes it really stand out. Shit's all over WN covers.

Examples
>>25089966

But shit like this maid slop doesn't look so bad because it at least looks unique ish.

>>25090014
>>25089144

>>25090044
I'm going to be so smug during the next AI winter when everything collapses.

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>>25090044
Fucking normie, I've literally written it down in my book that's AI.

Also, the filter is part of the book.

>>25090047
Just two more weeks bro!!

>>25090043
>25085961
>this is about bad ratings and negative comments, not about failing to get views/subs, and nothing says the story is failing due to not targeting a WN audience
Like I said before a popular story cannot be "damaged" by few bad reviews.

>25079443
>25079445
>did you read these stories, identify that they are failing specifically due to not writing what readers want, tell them this, and get ignored, or are you simply taking generic doomposting and expanding it in the direction that best fulfils the fantasy you have about posters here?
I simply see stories that are not doing, and by advice was give readers what they want instead of writing what you want and then wondering why stories are performing well. My example about MC magical powers was an one example of that.

>25079785
>this is just saying the japanese have it easier.
>not checking the rest, going to assume you're just lumping every person here under a blanket "didn't write to market and are failing because of that any nothing else" and move on
Correct. Assuming they have at least average skills if they did write to market their stories would have succeeded.

>>25090057
*my advice was, give readers what they want instead of writing what you want and then wondering why stories aren't performing well.

>>25089677
Not him, but I tried and found the first chapter to be written in a very bloated way.

>>25090055
My guess is a recession and rising interest rates will crush most big AI companies and cause a massive great depression/recession style market crash. But we'll still be stuck with the tools already developed which will continue to automate away jobs and make the labor market worse for everyone.

I'll still be smug but I don't expect anything to improve. For webnovels that means we're permanently stuck with posers trying to use AI and hide it until they inevitably get caught, same as the handwritten manuscript industry was permanently ruined by the printing press despite individual printing concerns going bust at various points in time.

>>25090032
not only was he not, that was me for a chunk of it, but i also joined in halfway through and wasnt the starting poster lmao

>>25090060
I've polished it a little bit, but that's the point. I'm a fair author, and by adding a little lore dumping, I'm warning the reader of what's coming next.

Anyway, try to continue, each chapter gets smoother.

>>25090032
Nta, that was me. I only posted in good faith.

/wn/ a thread where bad authors try to capture an audience rather than write a story they like, so they act superior about a genre they don't even read (because it sucks and only appeals to morons)

Just get repalced by AI already (it's happening right now)

>>25090112
That is /wg/.

>>25089645
If it's a sub how are you competing with KDP that just lets you read unlimited books? Tokens only work by baiting you in with the free chapters.

>>25090050
>Also, the filter is part of the book.
Why? Is it a retro futuristic setting?

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>>25090142
Yes, and no.
The worldbuilding technology is set between 1890 and 1920, but magic allows some modern technology to be simulated, such as a basic version of the internet and coffee machines.

>>25090050
do you just use AI for art or for writing as well? Using it for art is generally accepted on rr to my knowledge, or at least tolerated.

>>25090158
I've got a simple solution for you. Say it's not AI, but use AI.

Hope this helps.

>>25090158
I've used Grammarly for the polishing, but the writing is mine. The AI generation is for the Blog post images since there are more than 90 pics, and the total cost of paying an artist for it would be over 10k dollars.