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A Dragon among Men Edition

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>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSNZali-jIk2MASsAWVf8N7A8BlSyzPbAFV_BhsA5Ip3SWfMPWKxaXf8Pdb7f0TgFyWis31BzirtPeR/pubhtml


>Advice for Noobs!

##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##

Running your story like the business it is:
www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847

On writing web serials:
alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/

Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLY

Recommended web novels
rentry.co/d2yvczro

Anon's guide to success
rentry.co/RRBasicGuide

FAQ
rentry.co/pytefpxn
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Just finished the last Coiling Dragon book. I understand why this is advised as the babby's first xianxia book, it's honestly kino but I can see also all the tropes other amateur writers picked up.
Also it's funny how I read a couple other web novels, like Shadow Slave, but reading Coiling Dragon, with all it's Sovereign shit, gave me such a familiar feeling.
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Webnovel with the most fun/interesting intercharacter dynamics that you've read?
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>>25160680
According to their profile the account was created years before they posted YoA. So account hopping seems unlikely. It might not be their first story, the level of the writing and plotting of the story arcs is far above the norm, but I'm inclined to believe it's their first story on RR.
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I wonder why sometimes my dead novel gets like hundreds of views at once.
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>>25161036
That would be a bot ripping it to post on some paywalled site somewhere else.
Someone is feeding their village this way.
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The gray city was beginning to have a dash of orange as the bus jerked through the traffic. A jolt, and ten more people crammed into the already packed vehicle.
My elbows and knees ached from having to make myself so small. Every time the fat bitch sitting next to me moved, she stole more of what little space I had with her smelly pork thighs. It had been an hour since I was squeezed against the window, and I was only half way there.
Fuck, I should’ve went into nursing like my mother had suggested. Wiping old people’s asses in some rural hospital would’ve been better than this.
Ah, regrets, regrets. Life is full of regrets. I supposed that’s why so many people fantasized about dying and doing it all over again.
A swerve, and my head slammed against the window.
Ow.
That doing it over part was getting more optional by the day.
Rubbing the bruise, I fished out the phone from my pocket. Two fingers digging between my jeans and the jiggly white thigh grinding against it. The fat girl made a breathy huff that made me want to slap her across her stupid cow tits.
Whatever, I got it. Now, what was I going to do with it?
Opening YouTube, I was greeted with Asmongold’s shiny dome and wall to wall brainrot slop. The algorithm had been shit since the great poo takeover. I’ve already seen these slops five times over. Feed me some new slops, damn you.
Frowning, I switched to Royal Road where I found a loli who looked the way I felt at the top of Rising Star.
The fact that both it and Archmage modeled their covers after the mindbreaking hentai that went viral a few years back wasn’t lost on me. A close up of a skinny neck anime girl staring expressionlessly at the camera.
The Lich King Reincarnates as a Baby. 4,067 followers. Sure. Why not? What hadn’t been isekaied at this point?
I quickly skimmed through it. It was all I’m a girl this, misogyny that. God bad, evil good. The typical communist nonsense. But the last straw was seeing some demigod whore complaining about misogyny. An all powerful god complaining about misogyny. Get the fuck outta here! How was this different from listening to billionaire talkshow hostess shit talking about the average guy.
And men read this? Why?
I might’ve understood it if the MC was a cute tomboy with a tight, lean body. And a dick.
Without a dick, what’s the point of tranny shit?
I sighed. Guess all I could do was write down my autistic rambling and dump it somewhere on the internet.
Maybe on a certain basket weaving forum. Yep. There was nothing of value there anyway.
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>>25160888
I didn't know account hopping was even a stategy.
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>>25161165
Not sure it's a strategy, but it's something certain people do. Just keep creating new accounts, deleting the failures, until something works so they can claim to be a "new author".

Years of Apocalypse from what I can remember was never an instant RS hit. It's been slow, organic growth.
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>>25159882
Ignore that other guy. I wish there were more people like you.
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>>25161257
>actually looking at the RR user ads
It's a great way to instantly filter out unserious fictions. If someone spends $55 on an ad, or god forbid multiple ads, they're taking it seriously.
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>>25160728
>With each step, his horse’s vigor faded, and the pebbles scattered underfoot. He dared not look back. Plight of his companions wasn't his burden to bear. No matter the cost, the hilltop was theirs to claim. At last, the slope revealed the sight beneath, a green valley and its stream.
Does this feel rushed/abrupt?
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>>25161291
It's not abrupt, it's scattered. You're dealing with a bunch of different subjects in one paragraph.
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>>25161291
>With each step, his horse’s vigor faded, and the pebbles scattered underfoot.
These commas are incorrect. Imagine reading...
>With each step, and the pebbles scattered underfoot.
"his horse's vigor faded" in this example is an independent clause.
I would have written this as.
>The pebbles scattered underfoot as vigor faded with his horse's every step.
But that's just me.
>Plight of his companions wasn't his burden to bear.
Typically nouns at the beginning of sentences need articles, or determiners even if they aren't singular.
>Horses ran around the track.
>Car drove through the intersection.
>Bank lent me money.
Are more correctly written as.
>The horses ran around the track.
>A car drove through the intersection.
>My bank lent me money.
In common speech is only okay to do this conversationally.
>"How did you afford your new fridge?"
>"Bank lent me money."
This is okay, because the determiner "my" is already implied by the conversation's context. As often a person doesn't have more than one bank.
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>>25161286
No, they just have too much money and are bad at using it. And stupid people can't write anything worth reading
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>write an early arc filler chapter
>a random observation of daily life leads the MC to a spontaneous enlightenment
>realize the character has come a full circle
>the story has fully executed its core theme
>there's nothing to add to it
I'm really tempted to end the whole thing right here for artistic effect. The plot may remain unresolved with many open questions and the readers will murder me, but it's simply finished.
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>>25161345
Okay... I'm just concerned about being verbose.
The 2nd attempt:
>With each step, pebbles moved about. His horse’s vigor evaporated in plain sight. Don’t give up on me, now.
>The sound of grunting caught up to him. Had some of them fallen? He dared not look back. Time to halt had passed, and their plight wasn’t his weight.
>The hilltop was theirs to claim, no matter the cost. A few more onward pushes, and they broke through. The slope revealed a beautiful picture beneath, a green valley and its stream.
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What are gu?
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A thread or two ago there was a discussion if writing advice actually ever helped anyone. My position was that it could. Looking at the results of trying to give people advice in these threads, I'll admit that that take is looking a lot more brittle.
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>>25161622
Everything outside of very objective rules is no better than reading a self-help booklet. It's just cope.
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>>25161622
I certainly feel advice from this thread has helped me. But probably not in the intended way. I feel it pushes me to improve.
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>>25161479
Those were all useful, thank you.
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I came up with a great title.
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>>25161479
>>25161524
Comma's shouldn't be for pauses whenever you feel like it. That is what ellipses... are... for.
>With each step,
If the sentence can't end at "step" then the comma shouldn't be there. Unless there is a upcoming compound predicate, like this one here.
>His horse’s vigor evaporated in plain sight.
As opposed to what other kind of sight? Was his sight obscured before. Does he have a problem with his vision? "plain" in this case is a superfluous word.
>Don’t give up on me, now.
Reads like
>Don't give up on me... now.
It's very strange. If this happened in a movie I'd consider the acting poor.
>Time to halt had passed, and their plight wasn’t his weight.
Again, "time" is a noun, and needs an article.
>The pebbles scattered underfoot as vigor faded with his horse's every step. He dared not look back, as he plight of his companions was not his burden to bear. The hilltop was theirs to claim, no matter the cost. Revealed in their sight beneath was the the slope; a green valley and its stream.
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>>25162095
Honestly, I have grown more fond of the extended version. Not going back to the initial.
>If the sentence can't end at "step" then the comma shouldn't be there.
Simple rule, but it is an introductory prepositional phrase that requires a comma.
>"plain" in this case is a superfluous word.
Suppose it's superfluous, and I could drop it. But to me, it feels incomplete without it.
>>Don’t give up on me, now.
Yeah comma there is pointless.
>Again, "time" is a noun, and needs an article.
Yeah, I wrote the 2nd version before reading your previous comment. Fixed that already.
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>>25162203
All good. First time I wrote a serious book, a local librarian offered to proofread it for me.
It came back marked 50 times on each page with a red pen.
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>>25162095
The plural of comma is commas, dipshit. Or commata.
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>>25161479
>>25162095
Commas can (and in most cases absolutely should) be used after a leading prepositional phrase, you complete dumbnigger. Stop giving advice on things you don't understand.
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>>25161569
gu are the essence of heaven and earth
man is the spirit of all things
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>>25161234
It's not about claiming to be a new author but about not having the baggage of the dead story on your account which looks bad.
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>>25162271
Or, if your old work ruffled some feathers, then the spergs may carry on to rate-bomb your new one too. Or, excited readers who like your new story want to check out your other works and come across some trivial shit that triggers them and then they unfollow everything as a knee-jerk reaction. Or, you pissed off the wrong discord cliques and are a known persona non grata, they'll discourage anyone from trying your stories, won't talk about them, and you miss possibly hundreds of readers when you launch your new story and can't hit RS because of that. Or, your new story is simply something different and the fans of your other stories will be pissed it's not more of the same and post bad reviews.

There can be a lot of reasons just start over fresh.
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>>25161622
it could but it likely won't because most people don't have a single clue
you have to cultivate a worthwhile peerage to get worthwhile advice
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>>25162271
you can delete a fic
seems better to keep the clout of an oldhead account
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>>25162309
Sounds like skill issues.
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>>25162351
I don't think that applies if your account is newer than 2020
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>>25162392
No, these are issues of actually having a lot of readers, which most anons wouldn't know about
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>>25162576
My dad also works at nintendo.
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>>25162616
> It's an Older Meme, But It Checks Out
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>>25162576
not all of us here are like kinoman
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> read cool fanfiction about naruto
> recognize the structure ai uses on it's writing
> check cool litrpg novel. Same shit
Why everyone is using ai? Writing should be fun.
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>>25162967
not everyone is born with a soul
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>>25162640
My dad also works at fortnite.
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>>25162576
Aggressively blocking shitty commenters helps alleviate this problem.
I've also started maxrepping every comment that's just 'tftc' to try and train commenters to be nice to me. I think it's helping. That or the whiners just dropped silently.
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Any recommendations for a modern setting webnovel? Heard its actually a somewhat rare genre.
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>>25162967
i wish we were able to accuse authors of being indian in reviews without getting said review removed
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I have finished the second chapter for my story. Now I may rest and maybe treat myself to some left overs in the fridge
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>>25163202
Why is it so hard for reviewers to just follow the rules? There's like ten total, and they boil down to "just review the story and nothing else."

If you just want to flame you can do that with a silent rating. They see it and it hurts, trust.
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>>25161521
Give him amnesia.
>>25161622
The problem is if you don't understand the advice it seems random. And you would understand the advice if you were a voracious reader, in which case you probably wouldn't need the advice in the first place.
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>>25162967
This guy has almost half a million subs.
Thankfully he mostly shills non-fiction but there are others (mostly women) that talk about fiction.
Web novels are still niche and under the radar but that's slowly coming to an end and honestly this thread is partly to blame.
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>wrote 500+ words of one character telling another character a story of something that happened in the past
>almost entirely dialog, maybe 2 lines of description, the characters showing small amounts of emotion at what is said
did I fuck up? do I throw it all out? should I even be asking here?
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>>25163286
he has a very square chin so he must be telling the truth
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I don't care.

Post about winnies.
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>>25163293
If it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't.
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Is there a place i can discuss and built my power system? I have some scattered ideas and need help getting them together
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>>25163322
/tg/ world building thread maybe. Just lie and say it's for your homebrew tabletop setting.
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>>25163323
Thanks anon
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>>25163293
Some of the most fundamental feedback I ever got was someone saying they like to read about changes in character expression and posture; body language type stuff. I started sprinkling that stuff in, not even particularly well, and never got another comment about it.
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>>25163322
>>25130237
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>>25163383
So you got one guy'd and changed your writing style forever because of it?
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>>25163286
isn't he making most of his money selling his AI tools and courses to people who want to make it big as an author but are either too brown or too lazy to do so?
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>>25163418
For the better, in my opinion. My writing was extremely flat before. Not bad dialogue, but... flat. I'm on the spectrum.

Obviously if I didn't have evidence my writing improved based on metrics I would have re-evaluated but generally the issue hasn't come up again and I'm doing better so I think it was good, easily actionable feedback. Would that all my critics were so accurate and concise.
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>>25163425
idk maybe, but he afaik he does have tons of sales on amazon, he was big on the coloring book grift.
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>>25163418
Dialogue tags, action tags, and inner monologue are pretty fundamental stuff. Most people wouldn’t consider simply having them to be a style.
“I can talk,” he said.
“You can talk?” My eyes shot open. I never imagined him having a speaking role.
He tugged nervously at his collar. “Is that a problem?”
“No. It’s surprising coming from you, is all. I figured you were a background character.”
“I am,” he admitted. “I just have a few lines here and there.”
“Man, that’s wild,” I said, leaning back in my chair.
If a nitwit like him could get a speaking role, then maybe I could have an inner monologue like a focal character. Now, that would be something.
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>>25163487
>he said
>he admitted
>I said
I'm not taking your advice.
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>write about a character whose father died
>realize i ended up deviating from my original plan and made it closer to how my own father died
fuck
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Are there any webnovels other than DCC that involve death games or battle royales?
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>>25163525
>>I'm not taking your advice.
, he said.
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Metaworld chronicles' author's constant whoring of their FMC is actually making me want to start reading it just for her. Can anybody here who has read it tell me if it's worth it?
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>>25163568
I tried it once. I remember the start being sort of interesting but then got bored about 10 chapters in and gave up. Don't remember anything about it anymore.
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>>25163286
>how I depend heavily on youtube ad revenue despite supposedly making millions
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>>25163009
Even if you block users on RR, that doesn't stop them from talking on the forums or outside the site, or shitting on your amazon books. All in all, it's a lot of time and effort wasted that can be easily skipped just by making another account.
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>>25163684
Clicking one button isn't that much effort.
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Changed the cover for my AI sloppa.
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>>25162980
not anymore he doesn't lmao
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>>25163710
Looks like the L's in logical were a little fucked up.
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>>25163710
>>25163721
why not generate the cover image and the title separately and then paste them over each other
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>>25163723
Because the AI will actually compose images with space for a title this way.
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>>25163734
add it to the prompt that it needs to consider space for the title you fucking idiot
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>>25163568
> Metaworld chronicles' author's constant whoring of their FMC
Not sure what you mean by that. Plenty of of characters like / lust after her but I'm very far into the story and so far she hasn't slept with anyone, even her eventual girlfriend.

> Can anybody here who has read it tell me if it's worth it?
*shrug* That depends on what kind of story you're after? She's an OP fem-mc (eventually) or a flawed Mary Sue depending on your point of view. It reminds me of Worm in some ways. Overly long and still ongoing but that's what successful webnovels aim for, definitely has some pacing problems (it takes a while for the story to really kick into gear) with too much slice-of-life filler at times, but that's balanced by some very good action scenes, interesting story arcs, and epic extended battles. Just replace all the superhero stuff with a detailed D&D magic system.

It's not in the top rank of WNs I've read but overall it's a solid B+/A-, though some of that may be because it was one of the first long series I really got into.
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>>25163749
> her eventual girlfriend.
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I finished reading my first ever webnovel. It was called Genius Warlock, not sure if anyone else here has read it.
It avoided the typical cliches for the most part and I thought it was interesting enough, although it had some ups and downs.
The ending stuck with me for a few days which I consider to be a great sign the story was at least decent.
It was also Korean, so not sure how common that is here.
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>>25163752
It must be a hard life living as a snowflake.
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>>25163761
how in the fuck do you know what the typical cliches are if it's the first you've ever read
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>>25163765
Osmosis
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>>25163765
It's the first I've ever finished, I have read parts of other webnovels but never finished them.
Also I've read some manhwas which were adopted from korean webnovels.
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>>25163763
I'm not special though
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>>25163749
Metaworld Chronicles, Animecon Harem, and Re:Trailer Trash are all in this sub-realm of webnovels that I just outright don't understand the appeal of.
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>>25163763
>You MUST worship my lesbian femc mary sue sloppa!!!!
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>>25163844
correct, you must be a gay tranny in year of our satan +16
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>>25163831
> Animecon Harem
Smut with anime and cosplayers? Yeah, I'm sure there's no audience for that at all...
> Re:Trailer Trash
It's a popular trope. MC is reborn and uses their original memories to turn their shitty life around and get revenge of those that hurt them the first time around. It also fills a rare niche with its modern day, small scale mundane setting.
> Metaworld Chronicles
It's one of the OG progression series and the fact it's still earning those patreon and KU bucks means it has found and kept an audience.
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>>25163866
it's not that I don't understand how they could get an audience, I personally don't understand the appeal
even though the tags seem to make sense, something about those specific novels as a whole just doesn't seem "real" so to speak
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>>25163886
What gave you the idea you are expected to like everything? They all have a particular audience, you just might not be part of them.
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>>25163886
>I personally don't understand the appeal
then you're retarded
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>>25163844
aside from the gay part, what makes it any different from the op male mc sloppas
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>>25163721
Since you’re using ChatGPT, you might as well tell it to use real numbers instead of gibberish.
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>>25163933
I swear to god. Draw something or pay someone to do it for you because everytime i see a cover made by ai i assume not only the art but the whole novel is done using it.
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>>25163932
lesbians allow some of the most annoying people on the internet to pretend they're being progressive just for reading a particular genre of slop
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>>25164052
No one does that. That is not why people read stories. Wtf have you been smoking?
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>>25164052
the idea that lesbos are somehow woke is retarded
lesbians are popular because men, 90% of the webnovel audience, like lesbians. holy shit two cakes etc.
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Don't engage /pol/tards, newfags, they just start screeching harder
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>>25163996
>Draw something or pay someone to do it for you
And get 2 readers?
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>>25161524
Slow thread, might well show the shit I have been baking.
A 1100 words into chapter I feel haven't reached a third of the content I planned. I just keep coming up with stupid details.
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Oh no, Lich King (undead archmage) couldn't match EsotericTempo's epic but is already sinking like a rock on RS! What went wrong? Regular femoid archmage and demon archmage seem slated for greatness though
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>>25163996
My novel IS entirely AI generated.
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>>25160728
Any new tropes out that that will get people to read my book and get me tons of fucking money?
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>>25164669
This jobby doesn't make money fren.
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>>25164669
All you need to do is put "archmage" in the title.
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>>25164669
Archmage. I don't know why. But Archmage.
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>>25164669
Really, my only advice is to call your MC an archmage in the title.
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>>25164669
Write want people want, not what you want.
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>>25164061
>Has never had the misfortune of interacting with insane /u/fags that insist that every female character is a man-hating lesbian and will make it their life's mission to destroy the author if proven otherwise
I envy you
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>>25163039
>no replies
Why is a modern setting webnovel so rare? Or is it unpopular?
Why is that?
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>>25163039
This but in first person and with lots of snark and edginess
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>>25164919
Because reading web serials is a form of escapism retard. Why would someone want to read a novel about the shit they already experience?
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>>25164919
>medium primarily used for escapist fantasy
nobody is day dreaming about traffic jams and tax forms. atleast not with any sort of joy
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>>25163684
1. It's not that much effort.
2. Blocking users on one account prevents them from shitting up your other fictions on that account, too.
3. Most shitheads won't bother to make alt-accounts or track you down elsewhere
Blocking shitheads is an easy strat. Plus I don't need the mental stress of seeing hate comments while I'm trying to entertain people.
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>>25164919
Anon, the anon posting that image is a low-effort shit-stirring dumbass who gets anxious when /wng/ falls off page one, so he posts engagement bait.
Just filter that image.
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>>25164940
Damn
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>>25164945
>that pic
Why does this general attract so many autists? For what reason?
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>>25164951
Progression fantasy and litrpg are basically autist crack
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>>25164951
>>25164953
I put the words "unfiltered gamer autism" in my blurb, and am starting to think that was a good idea actually.
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>>25164993
A sane person would assume a story about a mentally ill loser would be a turn-off, but on RR it's actually a major selling point. Like that one archmage story on RS now promises an autistic loner MC in the synopsis and most of the glowing reviews are just praising it for the representation
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I wonder which one of these is tina
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>>25165090
50% are Tina.
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>>25165090
I assume all retarded posts are from tina
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Why does your world have so many bandits?
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>>25164933
I'm at the stage I have some readers finally. I only have one big commenter though, and I've developed some sort of relationship with this one super engaged reader. They binge my other stuff not posted and talk about it. I was worried they would turn out to be some koo-koo, but so far they're like a gift from god. Fingers crossed. I know eventually I'll get some nut though, its a matter of time.
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>>25164923
>Because reading web serials is a form of escapism retard. Why would someone want to read a novel about the shit they already experience?
I think if you quickly moved from basement dweller to chad or even chad-lite, the isekai in modern day could make a nice comparison of the two lives. The reader gets their self insert into the new MC and you only compare to the basement swelling life in the past tense. All first person present tense is cool chad life and his adventure he can now handle. The basement dweller lacked the tools to solve the case. As Chad, they can attack the mysterious case of the... ??? The humor comes from when they often enough times do basement dweller behavior but since its now a Chad doing it, its mysteriously hip and cool. the running gag. Every morning the MC marvels at his chin. "My god, look at that chin, would you." Its so cringe its funny. its an incel fantasy come true.
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>>25164669
tell them you wrote it with AI and that you're a pajeet and this is your side hustle. they will flock in droves and throw patreon bux at you.
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this might be a dumb question but this is a question about AI webnovel covers.
Why do 99% of them have the most generic art style? Why don't people who use it pick a specific artstyle from an artist to make it look more "unique"?
Or would they get in trouble if they use an artstyle that is way too similar to a specific artist?
I'm very confused on the logistics of this, I want my cover to be a mix and match of various artist, so I want to know why most AI covers almost look uncannily the same.
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>Vidya chads: Human, male, warrior
>Reader cucks: Elf, half-elf or some kind of dargon-kin, female, archmage
Really makes you think
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>>25165237
They don't know how to prompt it to use a specific style so the ai uses its inbred style.
With Loras and the right prompts you can basically make anything in an single sitting.
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>>25165243
bothchad: female human punchgirl
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>>25165237
you get better at free AI over time. You get rec's on which free AI to use. You get autistic about all the menu's and controls on whatever AI you're using. Some have some cool features. All along you're getting better at refining prompts. Learning which free online site has a cool titling app you learn to use. Its a commitment, like writing itself is. Sometimes you can crop around stock images and modify them and use that to get the titling app to work on. Its a process.
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>>25165260
hardest working prompt engineer
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>>25162271
Sometimes the baggage isn't the story, but the audience you've cultivated. Say for example you write fetishy smut. You can't exactly use the same name if you want to move over into the wholesome slice of life niche. Your old audience will feel betrayed and your new audience could be driven away.
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What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?
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>>25165303
>hardest working prompt engineer
until you can afford real photography and artists, there is no real choice other than boring vs AI.
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>>25165487
I've made good covers with photobash
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i like giving money to other people so i just pay amateur artists to make shit for me
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>>25164900
>Has never had the misfortune of [having paranoid schizophrenic delusions]
thank fuck for that
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>>25164669
One day an anon here is going to write "The Suicidal Ideations of an Overpowered Archmage" and make millions
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>>25165684
immortal who is on a suicide quest sounds like it could be a fun premise
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>>25165688
updated my journal
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>>25164474
Is this chapter 1, or are there content leading up to this?
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>>25164924
> traffic jams and tax forms.
How would that work in xianxia
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Would readers on Royal Road be immediately turned off if I named my main protagonist "Chad Thundercock"?
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>>25165759
>traffic jams
mortal problems, your flying sword fellow daoist?
>tax forms
thorough bureaucracy would undermine the money making ventures of your seniors, stop being unfilial
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>>25165684
>>25165688
Actually Japan already did this and it's shit. I couldn't get through the first volume. Not only was it incredibly disturbing to actually read someone's suicidal ideations with a completely serious tone (even a fictional character's), the plot and prose were just uninteresting. It wasn't like there was a puzzle, it was just "oh I'll see if this kills me / attempt / failure / oh well gonna try again later"

I recommend not writing that. I'd rather read about an immortal archmage loli who appears to suicidal hikis and neets and helps them get their life in order with magic and common sense.
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>>25165788
You already the answer to that you mongoloid. It wouldn't even get passed the site rules.
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>>25165929
>self serious instead of silly
lots of fun ideas have been done poorly
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>>25165931
>that pic
It makes way more sense than the other way around to be honest (but way less hot)
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>>25165203
I am the anon. You should look at my ai sloppa story.
Here is an excerpt.
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>Then, Mark saw him. Chad.
>Chad lived three houses down. He was a local gym bro, a guy who peaked in high school football but somehow managed to maintain his physique and popularity by becoming a minor fitness influencer. Chad was standing in the middle of the street, shirtless, and he was... glowing.
>A faint, golden aura pulsed around Chad's body. Above his head, visible even from Mark's second-story window, was a floating string of text.
>[Chad - Novice (N) - Class: Warrior]
>"Fucking pay-to-win normie," Mark hissed, his hands balling into fists. "How the hell did he start at Novice rank? And he already has a class? The System just dropped! There hasn't been time to grind! It must be based on pre-integration physical metrics. That is incredibly unbalanced design. The devs are clearly catering to the casual physical-build player base."
>Just then, Stacy walked out of the house next door to Chad's. Stacy was a girl Mark had gone to high school with. She was the quintessential popular girl—cheerleader, prom queen, currently attending a local college and majoring in something useless like Communications. She looked terrified, clutching her phone as if it could save her.
>Mark squinted. Above Stacy's head, the text read:
>[Stacy - Serf (S) - Class: Unassigned]
>"Ha," Mark snorted, a vindictive smirk crossing his face. "Welcome to the bottom tier, Stacy. Your Instagram followers can't save you from the real meta."
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/158272/litrpgs-logical-conclusion-llc-progressionprogression
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>AIfags thinking anyone gives a single shit about their prompts
such a bizarre phenomena
I assume it comes from a sense of wonder at the suggestion that they be associated with creation in any capacity. telling a normie that I write or diy I'm always met with the same response: sheer bewilderment and confusion. I can only guess that prompters feel the same way
nothing else I can figure explains their fascination and pride in what a llm spit out
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>>25165788
>Would readers on Royal Road be immediately turned off if I named my main protagonist "Chad Thundercock"?
be humorous: Chad Cunderthock
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>>25165976
>answer a question
anon has a melty about it
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>>25165943
Suicide, such a silly subject. I'm already chuckling
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Too bored to do full weekly chapter review post.
Basicaly , dropped One Was Worthy (too slow) and 100 Reigns ended act 1 in patreon (10/10)
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>>25166097
To be fair, it could be done. Look at the Road Runner cartoons, they are all about attempted murder and accidental suicide. A comedic story about someone who constantly feels like killing themselves but failing at every attempt - possibly to their unintended benefit like they accidentally kill a criminal in the process. Definitely a workable idea that admittedly would depend heavily on the execution.
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>>25160801
So I'm a Spider, so What? dungeon chapters
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>>25165727
This is chapter 1. Yes.
Very much in medias res. My concern is that the reluctance to spell out anything will filter out people. Like this line:
>"Um. Are we now in Kifort?”
>“Yes, but also no. Depends on who you ask,” he said before descending the hill to the valley.
>“You could have said you knew it not,” her voice muttered behind.
>But why would I lie? The mess you royals make…is that my damn fault?
Is supposed to imply they are within a disputed territory. But it is also supposed to raise further questions, like what is Kifort? What is royalty?

Maybe I overdid it. It would be easy to explain things, but it would be telling, not showing.
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>>25166134
>Look at the Road Runner cartoons, they are all about attempted murder and accidental suicide.
Look closer. The characters are comically exaggerated animals and nobody ever sheds a drop of blood and is instantly fine. When you put a realistic human into the picture, it just doesn't work the same anymore.

There's a Japanese light novel series, No Longer Allowed in Another World, where the depressed, sickly MC is isekai'd after a suicide attempt and keeps trying to kill himself there. It's played for jokes, the humor coming from the other characters' exasperated reactions and attempts to keep him alive. Because of the MC's "affinity to death", he's actually unnaturally hard to kill. His death drive turns into a sort of superpower. But though the author tries hard to keep it light-hearted, the gimmick grows old fast, and the story inevitably devolves to standard shounenshit of endless battles against bad guys.
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>>25166183
Correction: now that I checked, it's actually a manga original, not a LN.
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>>25165243
Modern readers are terrible.
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>>25165243
I fucking hate elves. All popularized by Legolas, the worst LOTR character.
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>>25166183
Then give the MC a funnier reason to want to kill himself. Maybe he has a resurrection system where if he dies valiantly in battle, he gets to come back as a level 999 god. So the entire time, you have the MC going on a suicide quest for selfish reasons while everybody else sees him as a self-sacrificing martyr.
Then every time he almost dies, a harem member “rescues” him at the last minute with increasingly gruesome results, like turning him into a vampire, chaining him into a life-and-death slave contact, and attaching his head to a golem body.
“Please, I beg you, let me die already!!!”
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>>25166369
Anon, it's just not funny
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>>25166369
Something like this is the premise of a couple of manhua. I recall one that had the protagonist be a court official who tries to get himself killed and he just keeps failing to die.
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>>25166181
Show don’t tell is a meme.
I want you to go on Amazon and read the first four pages of any book - not just litRPG. You’ll see that they all have a whole lot of telling to get the readers up to speed.
A book is not a movie. Readers aren’t going to sit there and try to decipher your incoherent dialogue and ponderings in the hope they might like your story. You need to give them a reason to care why anybody in your book lives or dies.
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>>25166397
Maybe you are right, but what about stuff like AGOT prologue? It's mostly dialogue and throws random terms around without explaining them; half the terms won't even be explained until many chapters later.
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>>25166386
Why would anyone be interested in reading that?
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>>25166445
Why's anyone interested in reading anything?
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>>25166438
Who cares about random terms? Tell the readers about your characters: who they are, what they’re doing, and why it matters to them.
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>>25165688
This is what good regressor stories are about.
>>25165943
Treating it as a gag is far less interesting than actually exploring how horrifying such an existing would be.
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>guy on RR forum asking how to deal with the pressure after his book "finally made it" and "hit it big"
>his story cover doesn't look at all like what would take off on RR
>check it out of curiosity
>1 follower and 300 total views after one month of posting

I envy those who can look through such a positive lens, but on the other hand, how fucking low were your expectations that this is "hitting it big"?

It's called Magehold: The Weight of Magic.
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>>25166511
Out of that critique, I wrote a miniflash back to the beginning of the chapter.
I guess I could break it down even further.
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>>25166634
> AI-Assisted Content, AI-Generated Content
I'm thinking there's multiple delusions happening here.
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What are your personal thoughts on negation powers?
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>>25166669
I don't like it
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>>25166669
just like the powers themselves, their value in a story depends entirely on the context in which they exist
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>>25166669
Like all these kind of questions, it depends.
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>>25166634
>>1 follower and 300 total views after one month of posting
Wow, those are even worse stats my views.
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>>25166669
They're lame. It's literally "no fun allowed": the power. They're about as lame and as original as "I can copy powers!"
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Simple, brute force powers are the only type worth having for a protag
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>>25166669
Kamijo Touma is one of my favorite guys
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>>25166709
This anon has been hurt in a bad place by Counterspell.
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>>25166669
as good as the owner's personality
>magic is an abomination!
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xth for Donut's book.
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>>25166669
I prefer power brokers than can absorb a power and give it to someone else.
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Is urban fantasy still relevant?
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>>25166969
>power brokers
Oy vey, cool it.
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>>25166979
Go back to /pol/
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I watched an anime once about a system with skill gems that could be traded and consumed which was pretty cool, if not fully fleshed out (he got loli summons that were OP and then I stopped watching). It would probably need some kind of expiration date on the skills to make the skill gem economy work properly, though.
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>>25166991
imagine snapping backlike this at an obvious joke
methinks (((you))) protest too much
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>>25166991
What does you coming to 4chan during or after 2016 have to do with literature?
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>>25167017
>(((you)))
I hate /pol/fags so fucking much.
They all think they're white nationalists, but are trannies with black girlfriends.
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>>25167048
>/pol/
>trans
What does you coming to 4chan during or after 2016 have to do with literature?
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>>25167017
every interaction is an opportunity for creating a partisan issue and epicly owning the opponent
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>>25167054
Why do you think telling someone they've been here 10 years would be an insult?
>"Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch! I was there when it was written."
Winterfags are almost worse than summerfags.
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>>25166991
>>25167048
Settle down, Moishe. Even normalfags hate you guys now.
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>>25167084
Why do you think calling out /pol/tards is jewish behavior?
This is the kind of subversive logic (((they))) would use.
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>tina hours
>thread immediately starts getting worse
how does xhe do it?
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>>25163039
Burgess O'Bannon's Superhero Saga
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>>25167079
You found 4chan during or after 2016 and you are a newfag LOL the same type of bitch currently shitting up /sffg/
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>>25167114
I regret to inform you that I am in my mid 30's.
Please disregard the fact that I suck cocks.
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>>25167124
What does your age have to do with the year you found 4chan?
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At what point should you start a Patreon for readers to read ahead? As soon as you start a new story? Or if you got a decent amount of following?
Gonna start on making a ton of chapters for my story to amass it then release it each week, never really done this before. As soon as I finish a chapter, I release it right away.
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>>25167176
Before. You should have it set up before you even begin public posting. Pushing it, you would be well off if you had a whole volume of advance chapters, or 50k words, OR have a SLIGHTLY faster update schedule for Patreon than public so it naturally builds up and creates unsubscription FOMO deterrence. This is of course pie in the sky type shit for most people but that's the "ideal."
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>>25167198
If your story doesn't take off, having a patreon with no followers is pathetic and turns off people. Broadcasting how badly you're doing only signals everyone you'll probably quit soon (and you will). Or you get a handful of patrons and are then married to them despite making only pennies, and will soon be in the embarrassing mess of having to explain to them why you can't keep writing, which is the most miserable spot there can be.

Please, in the name of human decency, see if you can actually sustain a story for longer than one month and if anyone wants to read it before you start charging people.
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I'm here to provide my hottest, juiciest tip:
Watch C-drama web novel adaptations to learn far more interesting storytelling rhythms, setups, payoffs, character dynamics, etc without osmosing bad prose habits from reading the MTL novels themselves.
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>watch
>on the lit board
lost me there, bud
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>>25167248
>[head cannon]
I'd call you out for being a crab but grift niggers deserve it
carry on
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>>25167248
Well, obviously, but if you're gonna bother setting up a long ass patreon backlog you'd be retarded to not go one step further and do a shoutout campaign and run an ad or two.

This is in part the reason I view "patreon updates a bit faster than public" model to be superior in most ways. The build up of chapters also gives you space to bump the cost once it passes this or that length milestone, grandfathering-in your existing patreons at the old price, hence creating even further cancellation deterrence.
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>>25167314
>c drama
>drama
Shit. They even spell it out for you.
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>>25167314
cdramas suck ass because they're heavily censored and typically don't have the budget to properly adapt the source material
donghua are a bit better about this
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>>25167591
never mind budget they're just not interested in accurately adapting FACT
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>>25166657
I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how novels are told. A book is not a screenplay, nor is it a diary. Writers strive to find a middle ground where information is conveyed clearly and naturally to the reader. Some rely on narration, some rely on dialogue, and many rely on a mixture of different elements from narration, to exposition, description, dialogue, thoughts, backstory, action, reaction, and more to keep the text mentally stimulating.
If you really want to be the dialogue guy, then you need to stop having your characters interrupting each other and stumbling over their words, and let them say what they need to say.
Try listening to BBC’s Philip Marlowe or any old-timey radio drama to see how they convey information through dialogue alone.
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>>25167776
>let them say what they need to say.
isn't the case in that passage?
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>>25167248
Just hide subscriber count. I never had any trouble accumulating patrons starting from basically zero. 90% of the heavy lifting comes from writing something people want to read. As you get lots of readers, you get the low impulse control high income crowd that is willing to subscribe to read ahead instead of just waiting.

Not everyone can be ShamanicBeat but a few hundred to a thousand bucks a month is more than achievable, especially if you hit main RS.
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Too much?

>NPC: "The virtues of torches and pitchforks, then?"

>CharA: "Too direct. Works when it works, often doesn't."

>PC: "Elaborate...?"

>CharA: "God willing. But most people are too comfortable for that. Totalitarian regimes aren't like the books and dramas show. There are major states run by apocalypse-cults nestled within apocalypse-cults, operating on levels of abstraction that most people are incapable of comprehending, requiring entirely different ways of thinking and frames of reference for the world. There is undeniable good in the world, and this infuriates the forces against which I move. Goodness is not Niceness. It's not inherently pretty or merciful. I act in the manner necessary to ensure the Chosen, the Dero, meet the ends they deserve. We of the ORGNAME exist to break the Left Arm of Moloch wherever he shoves it. Terrorism, extremism, every conceivable -ism under the sun, all these are just magic words spewed by these servants of evil in the hopes that it prevents you from naming them, dragging them into the sun, and slaying them such that they lambs of the flock can see clearly and know to kill them in the future."
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>>25167846
I hate it
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>>25167846
Is chara character ai?
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>>25167875
cool so it's good then

>>25167881
c'mon man at least try with (You)r bait replies in the future
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>>25167887
don't be mistaken, it's definitely bad
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>>25167846
Is CharA a redditor? (and also AI?)
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Are there any LitRPGs where it feels like the stats mean something? I feel like letter grades would solve this, but nobody ever uses them
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>>25167951
Letter grades arent exactly litrpg though, you can find them often enough when you just filter out litrpg.
Don't know about ones with stats that mean anything, some do at the start but in general quickly scale past it meaning anything.
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>>25167951
>where it feels like the stats mean something?
elaborate
arkendrythrist and delve go into autistic math tism and atleast 50% of the prose is dedicated to specifying in exact detail the numerical values of magic and skills and the consequences of those values
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>>25167951
litagp is just an excuse, it's the worst genre
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>>25167951
Some of them start meaningful and end up being a mess, the ones i read that mitigated the damage the most made it so every number increase means a tier of strength on its own
>10 is the average for a healthy human male
>11 is peak human strength
>12 is supernatural strength (think what spiderman from the raimi movies)
>13 is herculean strenght (think mcu hulk)
And so on
But don't ask me names, i can remember any right now
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>>25166991
based
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>>25167951
When I did this, it filtered readers.
I've only felt it okay in my webcomic.
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>>25168306
What does your newfag ass coming to 4chan during or after 2016 have to do with webnovels??
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>>25167124
provides pretty good evidence of being here since 2004
>>25167126
doesn't recognize oldfag references
>>25168345
what does you larping as an oldfag have to do with webnovels?
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>>25168365
What does your newfag ass coming to 4chan during or after 2016 have to do with webnovels??
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>>25168365
DUDE
LARPING
You came here after 2016 LOL
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>>25168365
this newfag thought he was slick with his newfag revisionism
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>>25168372
>>25168373
>>25168376
samefag posting 1 minute apart with 7-16 seconds solving a captcha, because he's stupid to solve the captcha while the timer elapses
this bro is fucking tilted
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>>25168381
>tilted
What does you finding 4chan during or after 2016 have to do with 4chan.org/lit?
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>>25168381
generals truly attract the most dipshit bums the site has to offer
I like /wng/ for the most part but damn we've go some live-in retards
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I'm just here to talk about webnovels man.
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>>25168390
>don't agree with newfag revisionism that magically rewrites your life history like a fiction novel
>DIPSHIT BUMS
Seek some help before somebody kills you in self-defense.
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>>25168392
whatcha reading anon
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>>25168395
>Seek some help before somebody kills you in self-offense.
FTFY
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>>25168392
Me too. But if you discuss nonpopular stories then you are yelling into an echo chamber. And then newfags like this bitch >>25168381 try to shame you for not reading megapopular series.
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>>25168398
Your newfag ass would be killed in real life when you assault somebody in meatspace. Our 10 year /sffg/ shitposter is a Canadian so I understand that your newfag shitposting ass may also be from a buttfuck country with no self-defense laws but if you
>trepass on my property or;
>assault me in realife
Then I have full legal rights to shoot your retarded harmful psychotic ass.
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>>25168396
Currently The Bell Tolls for Me before the first volume gets stubbed.
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>>25168403
I have trouble appreciating the villainess genre. I feel like they never live up to the promise of "evil bitch fucks shit up"
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>>25168424
I could say the same for the villain genre. They all just end up written as normal MCs who kill a few bad people.
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>>25168424
> Empress of Fire
I agree with you. That's the only one I've read on RR that follows through on the premise.
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>>25168424
That is not the genre of the story mentioned tho.
Bell Tolls for Me started out pretty good but some parts really dragged on. The end was pretty good but I think there was some part halfway through where I totally spaced out while reading multiple chapters and some plot points occurred that I late couldn't remember exactly when.
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>>25168343
Why make webnovels when you can draw?
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>>25167801
>it's easy to succeed if you succeed
Wow, genius!
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>>25165798
>mortal problems, your flying sword fellow daoist?
What happens when you get into a flying sword traffic jam?
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>>25168697
you practice the Fang Yuan method of conflict resolution
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>>25164669
Romance.
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>>25166097
>>25166134
>>25166183
>>25166369
>self-censoring is now natural
Ughh...
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>>25165009
>autism
How to Tame Your Princess by DocteurNS
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>>25166669
An area where one rule of the world is negated. That's the furthest I can stomach it.
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Is there a universal setting in all your stories that helps you to reconstruct something you have forgotten?
I remember the child of a couple in my stories, but not the couple themselves. I work backwards from what the child is, then the reason of everything (the universal setting), and figure out who the couple are again.
>notes
I lost it when my hard drives broke.
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>>25168704
Consider Spectral Soul's methods.
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>>25167114
>2016
Haha. Hoo boy.
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>>25165237
The truth is most people suck at using AI image generators. They use the easiest, free AI they can find, like bing or midjourney, and they use whatever the default style is.

Stable Diffusion truly gives you the most control, but it's too difficult for a normie to install. And why mix and match models and Loras to get something unique when bing is "good enough?"
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>>25169125
If nothing else I have to give midjourney credit for its moodboards aka retard baby's first lora
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>>25167114
Aren't you the guy who can't even cross-post between boards?

Sad,
Cringe even.
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>>25164669
A dude who's like a werewolf but becomes a gay rapist during full moons, he's otherwise completely straight and it confuses him why as he tries to find a cure
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>>25165931
His dad's gay is what he means
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>>25168385
>>25168381
>>25168376
>>25168373
>>25168372
You're getting famous.
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This is a weekly reminder that underage Latin American and Indian/Pakistani/Bengali kids form the most vocal part of this scene's audience
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>>25169262
>>25169201

Jesus Christ. Is this dude really going through multiple generals across boards?
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>>25169265
So it's safe to ignore what the community has to say and just write stuff that is aimed at an audience with actual buying power. Thanks for the tip.
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>>25169271
Apparently. He is about to wake up soon too. So get ready.
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>>25169276
Exactly. Sounds like you're, like, some kinda Knower too, huh?
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>>25169283
I don't know.
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https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/kill-six-billion-demons-chapter-1/
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>>25169297
>kike six gorillion goyim
fuck off abaddon
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>>25168697
You fly higher than the guy in front of you, he will have no choice but to attack you to save face. Thus you've moved forward in line.
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>>25169297
Wrong thread?
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>>25169262
>gossiping about the village idiot of another site's niche forum
>gossiping about the gossiping
utterly retarded of all of you
of course redditors were infesting this thread. the level of discussion has been through the floor. every long post has the voice of a vacuous minded millenial attempting to signal commonality. opinions are surface level, subjects always digress away to topics proliferating through the zeitgeist, and there is zero individual interest in anything. no passion, no love, no enthusiasm; no unique perspectives, not a single self made creative framework, even readers never have personalized preferences beyond treating popular trends like partisan issues. just a desolate waste of drivel and performative babble all thread long
>writers fucked off to discord together
>all thats left are a couple readers, the lolcows, and literal redditors
what a waste. the thread had so many cool posters. people doom over the fading popularity of reading but /lit/ is completely saturated with mindless hylic eternally grazing no agency cattle
literature doesn't belong to pseuds, pulp doesn't belong to nerds. it's all the domain of the lowest common denominator
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You sound resentful.
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>>25168564
That's the problem, I can't.
I never said the webcomic was good.
>stats
The comic is based in a video game with a 5 stat system. All of the substats are based on the main stats. I wrote a battle simulator in python to take 2 stat compliments and combat them.
I took the output of the combat simulator, and used it for the comic's damage numbers.
I update the character's stats throughout the comic.
If I could draw like a manhwa artist, I'd make something entirely different.
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>>25169855
I take it all back. this is pure soul
dour attitude soothed. cool comic
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>>25169860
thanks fren
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>>25169855
That's not bad at all. Develop your skills more and you'll make it for sure. The current look has real charm to it.
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>>25169933
This was like 3 years ago. I'd like to think I've improved somewhat since then. I've been doing game dev with this style since.
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>>25169827
/wg/ - the post.
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>>25170011
/wg/ has all the same problems but somehow worse
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>>25170038
I was saying to myself at least we aren't /wg/
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is log horizon worth reading?
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What's /wg/?
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Read Reverend Insanity.
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>>25170127
I love the books and the anime but I have to say no. The last volume that came out was 11 and there's basically no sign the series is going to be finished. The author had some tax/legal trouble and I think he went to prison for a bit, and since then very little has been written, as far as I can tell.
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Is it better to have the story's hook within the first chapter or is to have it in the second for better pacing?
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>>25170533
or to have it*
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>>25170533
generally it's best to have your story's hook within the first chapter.
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>>25170533
>Think about my "Premise"
>It doesn't really delivers on it after at least 3 major book-wide arcs
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>>25170533
Most people don't read past the first chapter, so that’s your one chance to hook them.
Ideally, you want to introduce your main character, make him likable and relatable (or you can make him a psychopath - people love their antihero protags), give a quick thumbnail of his life, before moving on to the plot premise, system, or whatever you think is the main draw of your story. More details can be added in subsequent chapters.
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>>25169948
what? this isn't agdg. write a story about tactics hell RIGHT NOW
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>>25170742
You might be surprised to find that creative people do creative shit across boards.
>/agdg/ already knows about my game
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>>25170707
I see. I wanted to have my mc's life before ending at the death of her only friend as the focus of the first chapter and have the second chapter be her reaction, leaving the end of it for the hook, but I guess I can add the hook first and tie that in to her reaction.
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>>25170742
“Blue One, contact. Two tangos approaching from the north.”
“Blue Two, contact.”
“Blue Three, visual. Want me to light them up?”
“Hold fire,” Blue One said.
He adjusted his grip on his suppressed rifle, resting the barrel against a chest-high concrete wall that offered solid cover. Through the scope, he had a clear line of sight on the two enemy soldiers. They wore vivid red and carried short-barreled rifles—possibly AK-105s or VSS Vintorez variants. Russian-made, and not the typical AK-47s guerrillas had been using since the ’70s. Both were exposed.
Blue One and his two squadmates were holed up inside a blown-out building, its shattered walls giving them overwatch of the open dirt plain and the enemies advancing across it.
“Range?” Blue One asked.
“About nine blocks,” Blue Two replied. “Sixty percent chance to hit.”
“Thirty over here,” Blue Three added.
Blue One’s odds weren’t any better—forty-five percent for a solid hit. He should’ve brought a sniper. Nobody had said this would turn into a base defense mission.
He licked his cracked lips, weighing the options. He could hold his turn and wait for the tangos to move closer—but that risked giving them first blood. Alternatively, he could order one of his men to close the distance, at the cost of exposure.
Beyond them, the fog of war hid everything.
Damn it. Despite the elevated position and solid cover, it felt like the enemy was setting the pace.
He pulled up his squad status.

BLUE SQUAD

Blue One (Squad Leader) | Level: 5 | Class: Assault
HP: 40/40 | Stamina: 100 / 100
Morale: Steady (+5% squad cohesion)
Attributes: Strength: 5 | Agility: 5 | Perception: 7 | Endurance: 6 | Intelligence: 8 | Accuracy: 6
Skills:
Tactical Command Lv. 4 (All squad members gain +1% accuracy)
Equipped:
SIG Sauer M7 (Suppressed) (DMG: 28–35 | Range: Medium-Long | Accuracy Bonus: +10% | Ammo: 20/20 | Reserve: 100)
Light Tactical Armor (Damage Reduction: 10%)

Blue Two | Level: 4 | Class: Scout
HP: 40/40 | Stamina: 90 / 90
Morale: Focused
Attributes: Strength: 5 | Agility: 7 | Perception: 7 | Endurance: 5 | Intelligence: 5 | Accuracy: 6
Skills:
None
Equipped:
HK416 Carbine (DMG: 22–28 | Range: Medium | Mobility Bonus: +10% | Ammo: 30/30 | Reserve: 150)
Light Tactical Armor (Damage Reduction: 10%)

Blue Three | Level: 4 | Class: Heavy
HP: 40/40 | Stamina: 120 / 120
Morale: Aggressive
Attributes: Strength: 7 | Agility: 5 | Perception: 5 | Endurance: 7 | Intelligence: 4 | Accuracy: 5
Skills:
None
Equipped:
Benelli M4 Shotgun (DMG: 35–55 | Range: Short | Spread: High | Ammo: 6/6 | Reserve: 35)
Medium Tactical Armor (Damage Reduction: 15%)

Blue One frowned. His team composition wasn’t meant for this kind of mission.
Shit.
He kept the crosshairs steady on the left target, then made the call.
“Hold. Let them come closer.”
“Roger,” Blue Two said.
“You’re the boss.” Blue Three adjusted the grip on his shotgun.
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>>25170915
Bretty gud
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>>25170915
>squad tactics litrpg
wait a second you might be onto something
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>>25170915
There is plenty of such scifi slop (without stats), mostly independently published on kindle and other ebook shops, it's slop a,d adding all that litrpg nonsense to a modern action/scifi will make totally unreadable.
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>>25170251
i'm boycotting your book because you keep spamming it here
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>>25170888
>I wanted
>to have my mc's life before ending at the death
>of her [...] first chapter
>the second chapter her reaction,
>[...] her reaction.
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>>25170963
>her
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>>25170960
this but bakkerfag in /sffg/ >>25169262
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the only thing I hate more than women is men
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what is /wng/'s status? dooming? blooming? >>25170251
>>25170960
i'd actually strangle this anon if i had the opportunity.
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>>25170963
Your post made me laugh, thanks anon. I managed not to spill my soda.
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>>25170915
KINO
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>>25170915
>SIG Sauer M7
Dropped
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>>25171136
Hey now, it could be foreshadowing of a tragic accident!
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>>25171160
Well thats not the m18
But theres no handgun specified so
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>>25169262
go back to /sffg/
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would a writer get in trouble for name dropping video games, movies, anime, etc? or is the safest way to go about it is subtly describing it?
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>>25171302
If you are unpopular you are fine
If you get popular then it depends on whether you depicted that IP positively and how rabidly the IP holder defends it.
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I see a lot of authors use "even as" when "just as" seems more appropriate. Example:

>She cast her spell, even as her familiar cast his.

Based on context, the only specification the author is trying to make is that both characters attacked at the same time. Using "even" makes it sound like the familiar's action is unexpected or improbable. It is not. So what's the deal?
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>>25171335
Sometimes people are just bad/mediocre writers. Command of the english language is shit these days for almost everyone.

BREAK
>get little grammatical patterns and turns of phrases in my head
>overuse them for a few chapters for dramatic effect
>drop them forever when something new captures my attention
I want to see it as whimsy but I'm afraid it's more autistic hyperfixation.
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>>25170533
the story's hook should be in the title
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>>25169262
>somes up
did another non-reading ESL tourist post us on reddit?
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>>25171358
>I Was Reincarnated as a Level 1 Inventory Slot in a Glitched MMO World, But By Exploiting Infinite Weight Scaling, Crafting Recursive Legendary Gear, and Accidentally Becoming the Dungeon Core of a Sentient Megacity, I Now Dominate the Multiversal Economy While My Former Party Members Try to Figure Out Why Their Loot Keeps Whispering My Name
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>>25160728
Any reincarnation/vrmmo web novels where the author is not a huge simp and doesn't make every single female character "earth shatteringly beautiful" or powerful? Even better if there are very few female chars at all or they are thrown in the back seat in favor of a good story and character development for male chars.

Also looking for manly novels without romance too but those are too rare.

The closest to either of these I found was "Praise the Orc"- which is surprising since it was made by a Korean.

It's really depressing how many simp authors there are. Not to mention how shit the stories and char development are even for non simp authors. At this point I'm thinking about just going back to reading 19th and 20th century novels.
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>>25171417
I was writing an autistic level vrmmo progression story with mainly guild politics, but it didn't perform well so I removed it.
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>>25171417
no simping unless it's for fishussy
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>>25171422
I made some pretty nice system boxes for it too.
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>>25171436
ludo
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>>25171335
In my ears, "even as" carries meaning similar to "in spite of", so the phrasing feels especially awkward. Maybe it's just me.
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>>25171417
>simping
Why though? Why do authors simp? What do they get from it?
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>mild flirting is "repulsive smut" now
Why do dickless eunuchs read web novels?
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>>25171788
Why add that garbage to progression stories? Just write romance/drama/smut and nobody will have a problem with it.
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>>25171417
Sounds boring
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>>25171801
Human beings aren't asexual robots, but occasionally enjoy interacting with other humans through humor and flirting. It's a long damn way to porn from that.
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>>25171849
I get that, so write a novel about humans interacting through humor and flirting, you can even write smut novel or simp novel, it's all good but fucking separate serious novels, progression, cultivation from smut, "humor and flirting" and simp garbage.
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>>25171891
not doing that

cure your mental illness
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>>25171895
Why not?
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>>25171921
solely to make you mad
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Is anyone here familiar with R Scott Bakker?

I am looking for webnovels that drew inspiration from authors like him.

Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance.
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>>25171925
Why would you want to do that?
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>>25171931
it's funny to watch you squirm
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>>25171930
Plenty of webnovels with edgelord MCs and grimdark misery-porn
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>>25171930
There are, but none of them come even close to the same type of quality you'd get from authors like Scott. You would not recommend any to avoid disappointing you. Also, if someone shills anything, it's most likely their work, so.
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>>25172024
Lol , sure
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>>25171891
I want to write realistic characters and human characters who express no desire whatsoever cannot be realistic. They're just some disturbing, hollow aliens. Characters not having sex and abstaining from non-violent physical contact is already uncanny enough and as far as I'm willing to pander to you martians
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>>25172090
That anon is just trolling
I wish you the best in your efforts, it really has become tiresome with how many aliens people write.
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>>25171720
Views from gooners.
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>>25171422
Do you still have it uploaded anywhere? I'll read it
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>>25172095
I don't know, I get complaints saying exactly what he says and they're 100% serious. He may well have been one. These reptilians get actually angry at the slightest displays of affection between characters and it's pretty freaky
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>>25171788
I used to shit on people who complained about incels, because they overused the term to comical levels. But there's a very real problem with unironic, literally mentally ill people on the internet who are anti-romance, anti-relationship, anti-[opposite sex], anti-[same sex but in any way successful]. It's all fueled by resentment and when they get triggered they spew utterly vile, toxic hate into the nearest comment box.

Now I give them the benefit of the doubt, because it's now not only possible, but likely that they have to deal with some sperg sperging out in their real life.

>>25171891
>but fucking separate serious novels, progression, cultivation from smut, "humor and flirting" and simp garbage.
This is a prime example. Serious novels mustn't include flirting or romance or humor? Core aspects of the human experience? This anon shouldn't be banned from reading outright, but his opinion is worse than worthless: it's toxic, in that it's harmful to anyone who reads it and gives it any consideration at all.
Go read a tech manual somewhere.

>>25172095
I wish it were so but I have (had) a few of these resentful idiots in my comments. I banned them. Banning them is the correct thing to do. Ten commenters sperging out and being the loudest minority in my comments when I have plenty of other readers who are silently enjoying the story is nonsense.

My advice to anyone who starts getting those comments? Block them and don't look back. It's on the author to determine if there's anything worthy in critical feedback, but haters gonna hate and they get the banhammer. There is NOTHING to gain by leaving such comments visible, except to signal to other haters that they've found a place they can sperg out without getting blocked and their comments deleted instantly.
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>>25171411
good one. I was thinking about poking fun at WN title length but well played anon. well played. enjoy a (you).
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>>25171417
you want fat ugly chicks? that's weird.
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>>25171417
>"Praise the Orc"
I liked it right until the point a lot of named characters started dropping like flies, a bit of downer to be honest
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>>25171417
>escapist fantasy often creates and praises a beautiful world
yeah
you maybe stupid
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>>25172208
>>25172213
>aliens in the comments
I wonder if there is a wordfilter for writers reading comments? I have found it does great things on this site to filter the most annoying schizo retards.
As a reader I dont think I've ever had my experience be improved by reading comments, its always either negative or a worthless observation.
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>>25172213
>This is a prime example. Serious novels mustn't include flirting or romance or humor? Core aspects of the human experience? This anon shouldn't be banned from reading outright, but his opinion is worse than worthless: it's toxic, in that it's harmful to anyone who reads it and gives it any consideration at all.
As I said before, write smut if you want to write smut, or write romance if you want to write romance, why add smut or romance to progression genre? How is my opinion harmful? I am all for different fiction genres. It seems everything and anything is allowed but the moment I ask for progression webnovel without romance or goon stuff people dtarr having a mental breakdown.
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>>25172410
You're being autistic. Literally. Genres aren't neatly defined boxes of [x and only x]. There's overlap. It's unreasonable to insist that stories completely abstain from core aspects of the human experience as though you were ordering a dish in a restaurant and have a food allergy.

This is entirely a you problem. YOU need to deal with whatever personal issues you have with romance and get over the fact that other people casually and successfully flirt and have romantic relationships with others. It's not a big deal.
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>>25172422
this.
its quite routine for an author to blend two genres. It usually goes to the author's creativity if readers seem to like the novelty result of it.
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>>25172436
Exactly, I can write a paleolithic mecha story, and nobody can stop me.
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Reddit immigrants have been calling 4chan posters "autistic" for 15 years now like it is some epic own.
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>>25172458
Honestly, I feel like being an aspie has only improved my life.
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>>25172463
>aspie
Haven't heard that one in a bit. I do believe there is/was a difference between "autism" and what he refer to as the assburgers.
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>>25172422
>you problem
Not really, there is a market segment for such stories (and not a small one) but I'd imagine most authors are gooners themselves, they simply wouldn't even where to start with such a story.
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>>25172217
Yeah, I think I'm gonna do it.
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>>25172468
autism has as requirements to show a profound deficit in both math and verbal skills. That's along with the social stuff when its mild and the retarded thing when its severe. Asperger's though, carries no math and verbal skills penalty. No retardation. Only the social aspects of it.
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>>25172484
Even within autism, there is a LARGE GAP between a high-functional autist who has self-awareness and can function within society, and a low-functional nonverbal autist who lacks sapience to communicate.
Autism is another one of those gay sensationalized mental illnesses -- like anxiety/depression/others -- used as an overall umbrella term.
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>>25172539
retard
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>>25172476
Royalroad here, I have ten thousand followers and the #1 spot on Rising Stars for you, where do you want it?
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>>25172592
Wire it to the swiss bank, they know you're on your way.
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>>25172596
As you wish m'lord.
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>>25172284
>As a reader I dont think I've ever had my experience be improved by reading comments
Comment sections are among those things that are nice as a concept, but just don't work in reality. Reading fun manga or webtoons online, I always unwittingly scroll down to the comments, wondering what people thought about the chapter, and then it's nothing but childish whining or mocking the author for nothing. First I'm having fun but then end up angry and wanting to punch someone. Giving the audience a channel to express themselves just ruins everything.
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>>25172630
its not for the readers, not really. Its the one chance an author has to hear unfiltered whatever it is a reader says. Granted human nature being what it is you described the result. But comments exist for the authors if they want it. Raw feedback is rare to new writers.
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>>25172213
>Block them and don't look back
Not really a good fix, because they'll just leave their comments as "reviews" instead. This is apparently becoming common. Because the genius admins decided you can't block a user if they haven't commented, so they hold back commenting until they feel like dropping their hate bomb and don't even give you a chance to talk about it.
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>>25172650
Yes, some haters are smart and put up a review without commenting first, but that already filters out most of the low impulse control low IQ retard haters.
And then there's the review rules. Haters who do what you describe often can't help but break one or more of the review rules. So you can report the review and get it taken down. It doesn't remove the rating, but at least the review is gone.

On RoyalRoad I believe you can also block users you've interacted with on the forums. And until recently there was a workaround to not being able to block users who hadn't commented, although I heard that got patched.

In my experience, although a dedicated hater/troll COULD work the system to hurt an author, most of them can be caught simply by noticing their negative and unhelpful comment, checking their review history, and blocking them preemptively.

And this is optional, too. One could also just ignore the comments. Personally I've discovered I'm much more thin-skinned and vindictive with a banhammer in hand. Oh well, sucks for them. I can still absorb their feedback without letting it linger on my chapters and poisoning the well, and without giving haters a platform to abuse me in the future. I feel much better these days than I did a month ago before I started blocking aggressively.
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