read Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi
it's peak

>>25239398
hm, nyo..

>>25239398
don’t read it, it’s bad and has fmc and written by female author
read RI

My mother, bless her heart, is very curious about the business of publishing, and generally likes inquiring into "how is writing going" when we talk.

But every time we do, it's like she instantly becomes retarded. Not as an insult, but genuinely mentally challenged. Normally she's, well, normal. Not the brightest but a normal person. And then I try to explain to her anything about publishing, even the most basic thing like how I monetize through patreon or how audiobook adaptations work, and her eyes glaze over like when you try to teach your boomer granddad how to not get porn viruses on his PC.

Today was the fourth time that I had to explain to her from scratch the chain from me, to my publisher, to the third party that wants to adapt my book. I'm posting this here because doing it anywhere else would have my manager crawling up my ass about it.

>>25239427
Have you considered that maybe you are the retard? Publishing makes no fucking sense.
Just think about it logically for a second.

>>25239431
It's not hard to understand at all. Both regular and serial "pay to read ahead" publishing is perfectly sensical. The convolution only comes into play when you bring shit like agents and approval beancounters into the mix.

Publish on a site where users can read for free->Make them pay a subscription to read ahead of what is publicly available

Publish on amazon->Get Money
OR
Publish with publisher->Get less money but don't have to do all the admin yourself

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If anyone is bored and finds a regression story written in a less conventional way that rewards close reading (but is still, in essence, regression slop), check out my story Gridbound. I launched it this weekend. The first two arcs are already live, and I chose to make them the first release because it provides an at-least-passable thrust at a narrative arc in about 55k words.
I suspect most RR readers will bounce at the prologue and that's fine I'm not looking to make money off this, but this is particular kind of thing that there isn't a lot of out there, so if you've obscure tastes like me you might like it.
Thanks! I'd prefer you insult me here rather than over there if you hate it, but you do you.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/164594/gridbound-regression

>>25239448
>regression
Why would I read about someone getting weaker? What an odd choice.

>>25239454
So they can get strong again.
But hopefully do it better than the first time if they fucked it up really bad

>>25239448
This looks like it would make a good cover to Battlefield Earth: Saga of the Year 3000

>>25239471
This story will never touch RS, it's way too obscure.
I expect to end it in about a year and if I can lure 100 people into being vaguely interested enough to comment sometimes I'd be over the moon.
If someone shouted me out it wasn't me, and given that I just got my very first rating like 10 minutes ago I'm pretty sure it wasn't anyone else either.
>>25239470
Needs more harrier jets.

>>25239448
>dump 2 books in 35 hours
>0 followers
Grim. This is what happens when you don't follow the sacred tenets.

>>25239448
You posted them wrong. I would suggest you delete it and relaunch with a chunk of vol.1 right away, then dripfeed the rest at around 2k/words per day.

>>25239475
Yeah my bad I confused it for something else.
You uh... really not going to do shoutouts or ads, huh?
Also, rare strat, you could try posting about it in the forums to attract at least a little attention.

>>25239448
>I suspect most RR readers will bounce at the prologue
Well, congratulations, so did I. What is the next step of your master plan?

>>25239485
Wait for the people who don't bounce.
As Simon says in a later chapter:
>If nine out of ten people leave it's fine, as long as the one who stays loves it.
>>25239478
Is there something specifically bad about releasing a big chunk at once, or is this more about "release 2k a day every day up front"? I have a ton of buffer I could go like 2-3 weeks at a chapter a day before it even started getting lean.
Thanks for the advice, I'm totally new to RR and serials in general.

>>25239489
It's bad because it's a complete waste. An initial drop of a chunk to read is good, but dumping a whole volume all at once is as I said a waste.

The reason is that every new chapter puts you on front page for a few minutes, up to 15mins if you time it right, and keeps you in "recently updated".

>>25239489
>it gets good later
>you'll see what it means in the end
>as x says in later chapter
>the answer will reveal itself
Anon, I hope you realize this is fucking stupid. Your story should appeal from line one. No one is going to sit through saga of slog believing your empty promises.

Anons have said nepobabies bad, but what counts as one?
Isn't Luke Skywalker one and Rey isn't one? But everyone awlays liked him and hated that Rey took the Skywalker name.
Or do you consider having force affinity from birth to be nepo in both cases?

>>25239535
>Isn't Luke Skywalker one
no, are you retarded?

>>25239537
Even before the prequels:
>Heir to Anakin/Darth Vader
>Inherits fathers lightsaber (?)
>Kenobi on standby near were he lives ready to train him

>>25239542
yeah, you're retarded.

>>25239535
Neither of them are nepobabies though.
Rey is usually (correctly) called a Mary Sue, and people go back and forth on Luke. To me the fact that he's useless in the first movie except at the very end, screws everything up in the second movie and then earns his badassery in the third movie makes his growth feel organic. But I do see the Gary stu argument for him I just don't agree

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favourite trope?

>>25239568
I'll never not be a sucker for a good "unexpected allies come to help" in any form.
I know it's about the most played out cliche in storytelling but the spirit wants what it wants

>>25239542
>this kills the SWfag

>>25239421
I second this. Read RI.

>>25239398
Yuri?

>>25239642
sadly she is straight and the "slow burn enemies to lovers" plotline is incredibly obvious and not really slow at all. worst part of it.

>>25239537
>>25239545
If force affinity existed irl you guys would be among those crying about it as unfair
>"no only thirdies and commies would cry"
No whites would cry about it the most because with random distribution they would have the fewest force positives.

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>>25239575
lito

>>25239651
>random distribution

>>25239646
Dropped

>>25239659
Good point they'd actually have zero

>>25239568
People glazing MC for shit they didn’t do. Think something like Lisan Al Gaib glazing in the recent Dune movies.

>firstpersonslop
>has the occasional chapter following another character, which are all in 3rd person
acceptable
>multiPOVslop
>has one character that is written entirely in first person for noir aesthetic because he's a detective
pissed me off but was kinda kino

>>25239476
I pledge my life to the Precepts.
I pledge my soul to the Precepts.
There's nothing outside the Precepts.
There's nothing beyond the Precepts.
Without the Precepts there is nothing.
Without the Precepts I am nothing.
Aum Adi Padme Hum
May my soul ascend to the divine Algorithm.

>>25239568
Societal pondscum coming to the rescue of the MC/their host nation at the 11th hour.
Especially if it DOESN'T lead to redemption because they genuinely love being misfits but the bigger threat just really needed killing.
Also long overly dramatic magical incantations.

>>25239384
Would this story fit RR?:
>year is 2036
>humanity has collapsed
>what remains of humanity survives in billionaire's self-sustaining mega bunkers
>protagonist is the leader of a bunker
>he wants to repopulate the surface
>but in order to do it, he has to do unethical experiments on the serfs within the bunker

>>25239866
Does it have stats?

>>25239879
it can

>>25239866
Since you have to ask you already know the answer. No.

>>25239890
Brvtal TRVKE

>>25239905
>incomprehensible gibberish

>Im a Vampire reincarnated into modern day earth with no vampires

>character lures people on dating apps and bars to follow him home
>bites them
>realizes humans here have low vitality so can't survive if he sucjs too much
>goes to jail
>gets raped by Tyrone and niggers
>gets out and does murder spree on blacks in city
>ends ip joining a Nazi skin head club
>turns them into vampires
>niggers are dying everywhere
Would you read this

>>25239928
no

>>25239928
GEM plz write it

>>25239935
Don't listen to him he does this to everyone

>>25239928
How did Tyrone overpower a vampire.
Your vampire lore sucks, wouldn't read.

>>25239866
Your ideas suck and you'll burn in hell, Elon Musk

>>25239940
Cause vampire isn't initially strong and needs blood to power up but gets caught when he kills a human by draining too much blood
>>25239935
Fuck u>>25239950
Why are you like this?

>>25239966
>Cause vampire isn't initially strong and needs blood to power up but gets caught when he kills a human by draining too much blood
How did the Police catch him? Why didn't he just use the power up he got to escape?

>>25239969
Cause one human isn't enough to power you up. And police caught him cause missing women was last seen with him

>>25239966
>Why are you like this?
You literally brought up a story about a black man raping a white vampire
Why are (you) like this?

>>25239966
Not my fault your idea is shit. Have you tried making the vampire OP?

>>25239971
So he accidently kills her and then sticks around instead of escaping before hes found out? It's not like they would come looking for her before the night was over.

>>25239975
Well this is modern day surveillance state and didn't think he'd be caught so quickly

>>25239928
>character lures people on dating apps and bars to follow him home
>bites them
>realizes he is in a blue state so can't survive if he sucjs too much vaxxtard blood

>>25239928
Why are we having these quarter baked edge pitches infesting the thread lately?
"Nazi vampire" is already a good enough pitch and you don't need reincarnation for a creature literally defined by A) Immortality and B) Sleeping for long periods of time.

Here:
>The Thule society acquires the blood of a Vampire during its expansion eastward
>perform occult Rituals on it to revert it to the state of a vampiric elder
>Inject loyal members with it
>Most die, MC-kun survives and is given free reign of an internment camp for feeding & creating thralls
>As the war turns against Germany MC-kun goes on ice inside a casket disguised as an oversized grandfather clock and gets carried along by an Operation Paperclip scientist
>wakes up and sees nigs have taken over America
>Expected.jpg
>looks around and sees modern Neonazis are overwhelmingly fat inbred blobs
>Proceeds to start whipping them into shape while getting into conflict with catholic, Jewish and Santa Muerte-aligned demon slayers
Boom.

>>25239991
That's unironically so much worse.

>>25239991
Why would anyone drink Jew blood

>>25239996
Envy.

>>25239568
Whatever you call this trope
MC’s inner thoughts: OMG. I can’t believe they actually fell for my good guy roleplay. LOL! I may pretend to be righteous, but in reality, I’m a total villain. LOL! LMAO even!! And now that the world has fallen for my scheme, it’s time to enact my grand scheme! Hehehe! Hahahahaha!!! …Erm, what was the plan again…?
MC externally: the second coming of Christ. Goodest boy/girl. Above reproach in respect.

>>25240003
that trope is called "retard MC"

>easily write 7.5k words of smut fanfic I'm not even planning to publish today
>Struggle to write even 1k words of my original wn
How do I escape this trap?

>>25240045
By finding a WN idea you resonate with more

>>25240003
Maybe it's called Accidental Saint?
Reminds me of "I’m the Evil Lord of an Intergalactic Empire!"

>>25240059
I like my original a lot, it's just tough to write it because I didn't rely on tropes so I have to actually think about the plot, character thought processes and interactions as opposed to them coming naturally
Maybe I should just write some self-insert academy harem slop with meta character archetypes, but that feels like selling out

>>25240062
Maybe. But I didn’t explain it well the first time. I also wanted to include the Intentional Saint who has a screw loose in their head.
So maybe Two-faced Saint?

Eminence in Shadow
Fake Saint of the Year
Evil Lord of an Intergalactic Empire
Self-Harming Heroine

>>25240076
>but that feels like selling out
That's the point.
The entire reason to do this whole thing is to mindbreak yourself into becoming as fast a writer as possible.

>>25240076
>Maybe I should just write some self-insert academy harem slop with meta character archetypes, but that feels like selling out
Writing something that comes naturally and is fun to write is selling out to you?
You people have such weird neuroses about this shit

Is it really shameful to sell out?

I just want to make money and unironically eat my tendies without having to go outside besides doing taxes or buying groceries.

Besides that, are time loop stories the hardest to write? I believe it is because you need a planned ending when this genre is all about milking your stories til kingdom comes.

>>25240180
If you wanna survive then do what you need to do anon. I think people who are unwilling to drop the equivalent of a McDonald day meal once are petty

>>25240180
>Is it really shameful to sell out?
Only you can answer that. I'd love to write the next great webnovel but right now I need to keep a roof over my head and food on my table. Any dreams will have to first break through the hard, brick wall of reality.

>>25240180
>Is it really shameful to sell out?
People will have different opinions, I think as long as you enjoy your story to some degree it's fine. I find doing it 100% for the money a little gay but it's still just selling a skill to put food on the table, I wouldn't really condemn someone for it.

>Besides that, are time loop stories the hardest to write?
There are harder, but there are also a lot that are much easier. A sys-apoc really is braindead simple with a formulaic engine where you can spam out chapters to your heart content with fight -> level up -> aura farm the social groups -> fight more -> level up more, etc, and people actually love it and slurp it up
Time loops need a lot more plotting and lot more unique ideas. They're very close to trad fantasy, really

Though, I think Stubborn Skill Grinder is a timelooper that just follows the litrpg grind style. Haven't read

>South Korea's largest illegal manhwa distribution site Newtokki, has voluntarily terminated its services starting at midnight. There are no plans to resume service in the future.
AIEEEE

>>25239568
incompetent bumbling gets inflated by the rumour mill and MC gets perceived as something amazing
loved it in overlord

>>25240198
I like that when it's a comedy, but I didn't like it in Overlord because it was playing the premise straight and Ainz really is supposed to be the Dark Lord or whatever, so him being a moron and his minions being way smarter made his character much less enjoyable

>>25240206
I loved him being a salary man who is doing his best to live up to his minions' expectations of him. especially because ainz' perspective and internal monologues are specifically colored by corporate values and being a salaryman. it's funny. the combination of trying to not perpetuate workplace abuse and honor the memory of his friends makes him sympathetic and charming, which makes his bumbling incompetence relatable and likeable rather than frustrating. helps that the side characters all make up for his short comings and drive the plot along a reasonable direction
overlord is actually a great example of how a story can have both a driving plot and a normal guy mc
>flaws and short comings of the mc are made up for by surrounding cast
>plot pace doesn't get hitched to narrative concerns of showing character growth and low starting abilities
>side characters can drive main plot beats while wants of the mc spice things up with whimsy and impulsivity

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This is good shit, why do I never see anyone talking about it?

>>25240229
>a million billion fics to read and just as many subgenres and niches
idk
how about you tell me about this thing you liked vague poster-kun

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>>25240229
I don't know why I gave it a 1 star rating, but I did.

>>25240232
I just looked and it has almost a million views, which is pretty good, but I see your point
It's a victorian england setting with murder mysteries and conspiracies, but with magic and demons and angels and a female MC
I guess it's not so popular because it's not progression or litrpg

What are gu?

>>25240267
Why don't you ask your mom?

>>25239928
speaking of nazi vampires, why can i only find a major antagonist who's a gay nazi vampire wizard in a Korean WN? his nickname in the WN is literally The Gay Nazi Vampire.

bros... someone stole my idea and wrote it better than i could...
... ...brehs...

>>25240274
Be careful, you can easily get banned for "trolling" if you say mean things to the spambot

>>25240417
happens to me all the time. the cost of ideaguying and never doing
since it's no longer original anyways, what was the idea?

>>25240426
>since it's no longer original anyways, what was the idea?
no... i'll write it eventually... it will still be mine...

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>hey did you see we're redesigning the site for no fucking reason?
>hide
>no hey we saw you hid our announcement but we REALLY want you to
>hide
>okay well we're here and it's coming and you can't stop it
>hide, go to patreon
>HEY I KNOW YOU CLICKED ON THE THING YOU WANT BUT WE'RE MAKING SOME BUTTFUCK STUPID CHANGE
>carefully exit out so I don't accidentally sign a TOS or some shit
>get to where I want to go
>HEY HOW WOULD YOU LIKE A POPUP DIRECTLY UNDER YOUR MOUSE TO LOOK AT OUR NEW THING
>another fucking ad about their forced change in the corner where a lot of navigation tools are

Gentleman. We need to address the Web Designer Question, and come up with a Final Solution for these parasites.

Their crimes against users have gone on for too long! Our patience has its limits!

>>25240441
Patreon is still astonishingly primitive technically considering how huge its userbase is. They've made a lot of small improvements in recent years, but still refuse to give the most basic formatting options for authors posting text content or artists showcasing artwork. It's insane. I really have no idea who their main target group is. Youtubers? Porn stars?

>>25240229
>feMC
annnnnd a 1 star. feMCs but it's just men with tits get the rope.

play it straight and end it straight aka let the feMC(dude) get dicked by another dude and settle with kids

>>25240461
b-b-b-b-b-based

>>25240461
>hates femc
>suggests story add gay sex
gotta own the foids at any cost. even if it means sucking cock and getting impregnated with another man's children

>>25240461
The MC is not a man with tits though. Maybe I'm biased since I like damaged women and first person (as long as it's not overwhelmingly gay). Also that sounds kind of gay

>>25240471
hear hear.

>>25240461
based

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>>25240471
>>25240475
I don't care if it's gay, I've read enough feMCs but it's just men with tits stories.

I actually want one where their brain's inner workings because of their physiology actually end with them slowly wanting to get dicked by a dude. plus points if it's an upright gentleman but I'm a beggar so I'll take what I can get.

Please send me any author that has, I'll subscribe to their patreon or buy their book asap.

i worry that "men with tits" simply means "a female character that feels like a real character and doesn't fit the limited image of a woman I've created in my mind"

>>25240484
>I don't care if it's gay
>says something incredibly gay
maybe you should. you might learn something about yourself
maybe you wouldn't have a bone to pick with femcs if you had a bone to pick your anal canal with

>>25240484
>incel chud NEET weaboo thinks women's only motivation to get dicked down by a chad

>>25240487
the idea of a gendered mind is so absurd
yeah, there's some difference in biochemistry which will effect thought processes, but unless you have a hormonal disorder or are incredibly irresponsible with your internality, that should be a minor factor
it's a very npc hylic mentality. assuming that one has no agency over their internality and that they think what they think because they were born male or female

Personally I'd like to read more stories about a woman with a dick

>>25240489
Do list some other things that motivates them

>>25240540
not getting dicked down by the likes of (You)

>>25240537
>Futa fetish
>Don't want to write smut
>Don't want it to be LGXXLBBQ shit
suffering

>>25240546
Ok, what else?

>>25240548
uhm... uuuhhh.. ohhhg god... *shits myself* i'll never be a writer!

>>25240540
list things that motivate a male MC other than dicking down women

>>25240548
not having a child the likes of (You)

>>25240460
Youtubers, indie game devs including porn devs and mod devs for stuff like Sims and Skyrim and some other shit.
Basically anything where most stuff is done off site and you just post a link or download with some pics. That way they have to put in minimum effort on their part.
Mostly anything that you primarily do

>>25240558
>incel chud NEET weaboo thinks women like hearing "ay bby u want sum fuk" from some incel chud NEET weaboo

How do you get inspiration for your writing anons? Do you try to seek out adventure or explore life to see what humans are? Like bad part of town, homeless shelter , hospice , prison or crack den. Why haven't you tried to explore your own city and environment so your own world is more lively.

>>25240566
I don't need any help writing villains and I'd rather not get stabbed, thanks

>>25240540
wanting to protect people they care about

>>25240574
Women don't care about anyone other than themselves

>>25240573
Your very sheltered anon why do you think they'll randomly stab you? I'm just saying that to be good writer you need a well of experience outside of your sheltered life.

>>25240585
I don't know why you think people need to go to a crack den to do that, I happen to be going backpacking across Europe this summer

>>25240589
And you'll be surrounded by well off normies who are similar minded to you. Why not go to Africa , Asia or Middle East? Try exploring a little for once that puts you in danger so you can feel rush of emotions for once

>>25240591
Why would I want to be surrounded by browns?

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>>25240566
>muh path to literary greatness
you're in the slop thread

>>25240585
>I'm just saying that to be good writer you need a well of experience outside of your sheltered life.
To write literary fiction maybe it helps
Absolutely not needed to write the next Dungeon Crawler Carl or Stormlight Archive, much less Primal Hunter, lmao. Where the hell do you think you are right now?

>>25240546
>>25240555
>getting dicked by a chad
>not getting dicked by an incel
>not having children who turnout to be incels
>presumably having chad children
Ok what else? Any goals and motivations that aren't related to dicking and having children?

>>25240566
Back in the day I had a ritual
>Do housework for people on Friday
>Use money to buy beer (I always brought a massive backpack so you can put in 24 cans) and a small bottle of vodka
>get drunk as hell on the train ride to some park
>share beer with the locals (usually a mix of blue collar old guys, hobos and middle aged women) and talk
>immediately excuse myself once I can feel myself sober up cause that's when the shy gigasperg main persona comes back online
>go home
Genuinely helped.
I also used to do physical therapy. You meet a lot of people.
I also occasionally watch reality show highlight reels since it's just distilled social engineering and dialogue.

Why are you still responding to the schizo camping this thread for 16 hours a day?

>>25240645
It's not me responding to him but I get it. Sometimes talking to schizos can be fun, especially if you're bored and the thread is otherwise dead

>>25240636
>incel chud NEET weaboo tries to understand woman by asking other incel chud NEET weaboos

>>25240554
Exploration and discovery, achieving competence and mastery, building and creating things

>>25240638
>>share beer with the locals
what does this interaction look like
I'm not a turbosperg, being raised rural taught me to be able to make small talk with anyone as if they were a neighbor, but how do you cold approach a total stranger and offer a drink? this manner of approaching someone seems totally foreign to me
>hey bro, I just moved into the city and it's my first time at this park. want a beer?
I'd have all sorts of 'wtf' alarms going off in my head if someone did this to me

>>25240656
and these don't apply to a female MC because?

>>25240657
>how do you cold approach a total stranger and offer a drink?
you do exactly that. people go to bars to talk other people.

>>25240668
yeah except people go to bars expecting explicitly to share drinks and talk to people
not the same as at the park

>>25240663
I don't know why females have no interest in those things, maybe different biology.

>>25240674
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_explorers_and_travelers
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/lists/nobel-prize-awarded-women/

>>25240678
>This few out of the thousands of years of recorded human history
This only helps his point

it's extremely gay and lame of you to be engaging with femc seether at this point in his thread personality career

>>25240678
kek, the amount of such women is about half a percent of men explorers, discoverers and scientists

>>25240686
>>25240692
>incel chud NEET weaboos are surprised that women who have been kept as literal sex slaves for the longest time don't hold comparable achievements as men

>>25240674
12% of people who climb Everest are women, so I see your point. Building and creating things I can also kind of see, if you mean blacksmithing or woodwork. But aren't tailors etc mostly women?
"Achieving competency and mastery" is kind of vague, but people get better and want to get better at things. I would argue that's just a human trait, how else do you explain all these career women who do not start a family because they want to climb the corporate ladder instead?

>>25240695
>ono muh poor wamen :(((
dont care, it never happened and if it did they deserved it

>>25240650
>enabling defacement of a location out of boredom

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>>25240657
Really depends on the... Let's say geometry of the situation. Like where I'm sitting, where the other person is sitting, how they react to me being in proximity.
When there's picrel for example it's pretty easy to Press E To Interact™. You just sit down outside their personal space, give them a nod and put a couple beers in the middle. Then you start drinking and sway to whatever music is playing. If they don't leave they'll usually end up smiling at you in an amused "based retard lmao" way at which point you smile back and ask them if they want to take one of your beers.
They'll essentially always accept.

Too many hacks think making their FeMC gay is the ultimate slam dunk win. Win over the troons. Win over the female audience because girl power. Prove that you have the "safe, good type of horny". Wrong. It's still male gaze perversion, voyeurism at best and autogynephilia at worst. If you are a man or woman (man) you are not writing good and interesting "yuri", you are hard capped at "Super Interesting" (in the To Love Ru sense). Otomesloppers writing for yumejoshi are more respectable.

>>25240711
>make a display of happy public intoxication and offer to let people join in
nice tech

>>25240731
>you are hard capped at "Super Interesting" (in the To Love Ru sense)
kek

>>25240695
Even nowadays most women tend to concentrate on family rather than career

>>25240734
Thank you kindly.
I kinda miss it.

imagine reading hetslop

>>25240696
>But aren't tailors etc mostly women?
Fashion designers are mostly men, actual high end tailors also tend to be men. People who work in factories making mass produced clothes tend to be women and that's because men refuse to work in poor conditions for low pay.

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>>25240846

>>25240857
Explain?

>>25240883
do you have a single fact to back that up?

Can we ban both the incel and the femcel already

>>25240857
>>25240888
That makes me think. Are there any WNs with a Deus Ex feel?

>>25240888
No, except maybe women generally getting paid less than men.

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Very small victory but a pretty satisfying one when you expect nothing at all.

>>25241026
urban fantasy deus ex sounds like a wild premise

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A gigantic failure

>>25241046
Hmmm.
So a dash of Shadowrun poured into a cup of Mage: The Ascension with a layer of Half Life II floated ontop then set on fire.
Y'know. I could do that.

>>25241026
Isn't Deus Ex just cyberpunk? A lot of them seem to be fanfics of Cyberpunk 2077 for some reason. I like, and would recommend, Outrun even though it's litrpg. Haven't really come across a better cyberpunk story yet that I would recommend

Stories that captured you from the first paragraph? Post such paragraphs, if you're bold enough.

>>25241076
Most stories open with a single punchy line now, so the answer is none. The first page is more interesting to discuss

>>25241076
The Toe's Lament
>Her toe twitched in her oversized boot. She sighed. It was definitely one of those nights.
The book's name also had something to do with it capturing me

I killed the poster above me. Now let's see if I can get away with it.

>>25241089
"One of those nights, eh?"

I didn't expect any response from my companies and indeed he venture none. When you operate out here in the spit-bucket that is /lit/, every night is "one of those nights".

"Twelve Stab wounds, methodical. Can't have been more than an hour ago".
I rifled through the bagged evidence.
Aside from the usual phone, wallet and unopened copy of Infinite Jest we'd found a revolver, seemingly unfired.

>>25239476
He already has 600 less views than me and mine's been out for 3 months...

>>25240229
I bring up his previous work frequently, On Foreign Soils We Die. It was pretty good and if I ever wanted to write my own litrpg I'd ape his system. Don't have the appetite to read 2.7k pages of his new one though.

>>25241154
it's a nice piece of cover art

>>25241076
Game of Thrones.

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>>25241065
>Deus Ex just cyberpunk
It's closer to the original source material than what the polacks made

I see people here wishing that they caught the Royal Road early wave but I honestly think we're still in it. With web novels starting to hit bookstores and tradpub taking note, it really does feel like this no-name space isn't going to be that way for much longer.
Genuinely amateur authors are blowing up and making assloads of cash with fair regularity with no gatekeeping middleman, which is genuinely bizarre and a first in the history of writing

>>25241232
we're not in the early RR wave, but definitely in before the real goldrush
WRITE WRITE WRITE
YOUR TIME IS NOW
HISTORY WILL NOT WAIT FOR YOU

The real rush will start when the youtubues and booktok creators start shilling their favorite works.
Tradpub vultures are already circling.

>>25241260
Are there male-focused booktokers? Like fantasy fiction ones? I always thought of them as womensloppers exclusively

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>>25241076
I'll post it.

>>25241236
>>25241232
Kindly don't interrupt my blackpilling I need it to justify not doing anything.

>>25240180
>Is it really shameful to sell out?
>I just want to make money and unironically eat my tendies without having to go outside besides doing taxes or buying groceries.
The chance of me making anywhere near good enough money to make wn writing a career is extremely low
I make ~15k USD/year from unemployment benefits, that already is above what most wn authors would ever make. If I got a minimum wage job id be making ~35k USD/year

I started writing web novels because it's fun and because I noticed that almost all wns are abject trash that overuse tropes, and I wanted to write something good and unique, even if it gets few readers. Writing slop defeats the point even if I get thousands of followers

>>25239996
It's rich

>>25241281
The chances are only low if you suck at writing. If you can write compelling stories and are willing to focus on an audience, the chances are high

>>25241281
>almost all wns are abject trash
You got into this scene because you hated the vast majority of what you found?
Wtf even is that reasoning
Why don't you pursue the career path for writing that you actually like? I'm assuming that means tradpub?
The tourists are killing me man

>>25241333
I enjoyed reading Japanese, Korean, and Chinese wns at first
But then I realized that outside of a few great ones, the rest are just trash that recycle the same tropes over and over again, and English wns are basically the same in that regard
>>25241333
>Why don't you pursue the career path for writing that you actually like? I'm assuming that means tradpub?
I'm realistic about my skills
I don't have the writing talent or social skills to make it anywhere in tradpub, still think I'm a better writer than 99% of wn writers, but that's a really low bar

>>25241339
That still doesn't explain why you're hanging out in a WN space and writing WNs
Those rare outliers you're talking about would do just fine in tradpub (the eastern ones DO hit tradpub and western markets are finally catching up on that idea)
You should only really be here if you like reading and writing the trashier stuff.
Why aren't you in /wg/?

>>25241343
Mostly bc writing wns are the easiest way to self-publish, plus I do like the format, 2-3k word chapters and a plot that theoretically never has to end is easier for me to write than a book with a self-contained plot that has to have 5-10k word chapters.
I do occasionally find wns that I enjoy reading

A couple threads ago an Anon complained about there being no castaway stories on RR and it inspired me.
Just letting them know I'll probably be posting it in the next couple weeks.

>>25241267
I don't know about tiktok but there are male book youtubers yeah

>>25241395
I'm not sure that youtubers drive massive amounts of sales like booktok does, though. Which is why I asked about tiktok
I do know about Daniel Green and some others. These guys only really review massive stories, and I'm not sure if they're on the same scale as tiktok
Booktokers review stuff not even released yet and get shitloads of preorders and such, they're genuinely a fundamental part of the publishing pipeline these days

>>25240656
Today I learned every FemMC studio ghibli protagonist is actually a man with tits

How is everyone so damn bad at writing

>>25241445
turns out skills must be learned

>>25241448
They have millions of words written

>>25241452
did I stutter?
>do something uncritically without intending to improve
>never improve
that's how it goes. passive learning only goes so far

>>25241452
But how much literature read?

>>25241080
>>25241076
How to write a punchy first line/paragraph/page?
Is this punchy enough?

Oh, look, my nose just fell off.
The rotten piece of flesh peeled off my face and splattered onto the stone floor. What used to be my nose had a sickly green hue, with nasty pus oozing from the open wound.
It must’ve smelled horrible, but it’s not like I could tell. Not only because I no longer had a nose, but thanks to my [Smell Blindness] curse, I couldn’t smell anything at all, even before I lost it.
And thanks to [Sensation Loss], I couldn’t feel the pain of my whole body rotting away while I was still alive either.
Perfect!
Everything played out as I had planned. I wouldn’t have cursed myself with [Ghoulish Fate] in the first place if it meant I actually had to suffer from it. So despite my skin bubbling up and chunks of my flesh decomposing, I was as happy as a clam with a smiley face on its shell.
The consequences of my own actions? Never heard of it!
I’ve always hated pain, so spending my Skill Points (SP) to unlock [Sensation Loss], along with the other sensory-deprivation curses early on, was definitely the right call. No matter what happened to me, I could observe it all from a detached point of view.
Did that make me a psychopath? Er… I’m not a shrink—are you?
Those of you who are psychiatrists… please don’t answer that question.
Anywho…
“Let’s see how many rewards I’ve earned. System, open!”
At my command, a black screen with white and red lettering popped into view with a satisfying ding. Open sesame.

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>>25241452
Naive vs Deliberate practice.
There's also fixed mindset vs growth mindset.

>>25241469
equal parts millenial quip writing and one part hyper manic genki kumo writing. a bit much in places but letting your inner cringe be free is soulful and there's no place better to do it than a webnovel. the quirkiness is too much for me but I'm sure there are people who'd like it
I think it's off putting to ape LN prose as an english speaker but I like what you're doing here. it's hooky
I'm biased because I like fleshpunk, zombies, and general miseryslop so other people might not find it as appealing, dunnae

>>25241479
>>25241461
I see this in video game skill too. People with 5000 hours played might be the shittiest bronze player you've ever seen, and some are top-rank semipros. And I've spoken to both and both just play the game, they aren't sweating and hiring coaches and deliberately training
It's just genetics is the blackpill. Not this "focused practice" nonsense

>>25241490
you have no idea what kind of cognitive action they're doing when they play. and I bet there's tons of factors like time investment, background, lifestyle, and all sorts of other shit that isn't being accounted for by your passing glance of their results
>It's just genetics is the blackpill
pure cope. I could train an average person to competence in any domain in which I'm skilled, from work to games to writing

>>25241498
>you have no idea what kind of cognitive action they're doing when they play. and I bet there's tons of factors like time investment, background, lifestyle, and all sorts of other shit that isn't being accounted for by your passing glance of their results
All I know is people with roughly equivalent passion and intensity get enormously different results. It's the same in writing, it's the same everywhere you look. The external factors don't really matter
Point being that these top performers are NOT doing "active practice". They are just going about their hobby the same as seemingly every other person.

>>25241502
the thing is that a lot of top performers are in fact actively practicing
t. semipro in multiple games, has coached in them; used to be very active in writing contests and have won many and short listed national contests, and have participated in workshops with serious writers
no doubt there are talented people who don't do anything other than show up, but you're just dead wrong that top performers aren't actively studying and mindfully practicing
cope much as you like but it is cope. unless you're competing for the number one spot, genetic disposition isn't an issue. talent and genes separates the genuises from the skilled. effort and mindfulness separates the skilled from the unskilled

>>25241521
>cope much as you like but it is cope.
It's not cope, it's me with very similar if not better credentials than yours making observations about the world.
I grew up wondering why tf my friends were so bad at games. We played together every day and I blew past them unbelievably fast, just playing the game. I was Challenger in league at 15. Was top 10 in a very popular game later on
Some of my friends cared just as much and played ranked, wanting to be better. Most of our playtime was us just hanging out, yet it wasn't even comparable

I'm not sure how you can possibly discount genetics when so many things are so obviously genetic. You think a 80 iq and 130 iq can pick up and learn math problems equally as well?
Cope

Sidenote
>semipro
Which game? And are you glazing yourself or stretching definitions?

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Torture.

>>25241534
semipro as in having earned money from them in tournament
tekken, guilty gear, for honor
I was also gm in starcraft 2 but never made money from it
I've coached people from mediocre to top percentile in a few fighting games, and have watched over people in critique circles and guided them to greatly improving their writing. you can intellectualize the learning process in most contexts. there isn't a mystical metaphysical wellspring which sources skill. it's all cognition and mechanics, thought and action
>perspective based on your friends casually playing with you
were they actively trying to improve? did they have the background skills to pick up the game at the same rate as you? did they have other stressors in their lives that you did not? this isn't a particularly persuasive or insightful anecdote
>You think a 80 iq and 130 iq can pick up and learn math problems equally as well?
no. there's a reason I stipulated average people. these are retards and geniuses. again,
>talent and genes separates the genuises from the skilled. effort and mindfulness separates the skilled from the unskilled
and I suppose it horseshoes back. genes separate the unskilled from the retards

>>25241534
By your logic, your parents and kids should be able to play games just as well

>>25241545
>guilty gear
Pre-Strive, I hope.

>>25241545
We were all just suburban american kids, IDK if you want their full life story...? Lol
We were friends since like 11 or 12, we all played games, yes, we were basically the same demographic, as identical as you can get all things considered

>no. there's a reason I stipulated average people. these are retards and geniuses. again,
We aren't talking about exclusively average people. I doubt most smash hit writers are average people. In fact that's kinda my damn point from the very beginning dude

>>25241554
fuck, I was worried someone would call me out on that
I played xrd as a couch masher atleast

>>25241556
that in itself is a super flawed premise. do you actually think the likes of sanderson and king are 130 iq?
the main thing polluting the discussion is that you seem to conflate genius level top 0.001% and the skilled. to spitball, skilled, as in showing well rounded competence and lacking complete ignorance in any aspect of a given domain, is probably like top 20%. these top 20% can be professionals, and in most contexts are professionals
video games are an exception because it operates off a model of overwhelmingly rewarding one person or team, and even so much as second place getting a fractional reward compared to first
yes, I concede that the difference between a professional writer and milton or shakespeare isn't simply being more mindful. no, it is not simply a genetic factor that separates a person who has properly learned a skill and one who has not

>>25241568
>that in itself is a super flawed premise. do you actually think the likes of sanderson and king are 130 iq?
No. I think they're in a very small percent of gifted people specifically in their creative domain. IQ measures other metrics.
>the main thing polluting the discussion is that you seem to conflate genius level top 0.001% and the skilled. to spitball, skilled, as in showing well rounded competence and lacking complete ignorance in any aspect of a given domain, is probably like top 20%. these top 20% can be professionals, and in most contexts are professionals
Not sure I agree
>video games are an exception because it operates off a model of overwhelmingly rewarding one person or team, and even so much as second place getting a fractional reward compared to first
I can see how rewards are more streamlined by giving +ranking points, but good writing gets +readers too, it's just not as direct. So, generally disagree with the sentiment

You're saying that an average person (20-80% range) can become a midlister that no one realistically talks about ("a professional") and yeah, I guess I agree, but I consider most of the midlisters really bad at writing too. (Remember that the post was >>25241445)
I was talking about good writers. Which are the big web novels, and is an even lower bar here than in trad fiction

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Why aren't you fang yuan maxxing? For one day try being fang yuan

>humiliate your co worker or manager
>use people

>>25241545
>for honor
God dang I feel the frown forming whenever I see that game get brought up. I've had such an intense love-hate cycle with that and dead by daylight that I basically don't play competitive online games anymore.
As for the actual topic, I agree. If you want to get better at something, you just do it. Advantages like talent might give you a head start or make it come faster, but they still have to hone and practice.

>>25241579
>a midlister that no one realistically talks about ("a professional")
>but I consider most of the midlisters really bad at writing too
good enough to make a living wage (or in the case of tradpub, get published and have no sales) makes a good conversational benchmark because there's an objective, universal quality to it. but yeah, I agree, most professional writers (in all contexts really) aren't truly good at writing
however something you'll commonly see from people in the top brackets of a skill is a highly critical eye towards quality and ability. what you or I consider good is likely going to be skewed towards a very, very slim and specialized definition that a layperson would disagree with
idk bro, I don't think we'll be able to see eye to eye on this. I think I've made my stance pretty clearly (an average person can go from layperson to skilled by undergoing an effective learning process), but your stance isn't really clearly stated. even if we can't hit a rational meeting point on our views, it'd be nice if you had the chance to fully elaborate and not just have snippets of your ideas and beliefs given as responses to responses
what are your thoughts on talent/skill/ability/the broad umbrella of learning and how it correlates to intrinsic and extrinsic factors?

>>25241601
>I think I've made my stance pretty clearly (an average person can go from layperson to skilled by undergoing an effective learning process), but your stance isn't really clearly stated.
It's that I think getting good at something is primarily talent based. It's not that average people can't eventually learn how to be sorta-good ("midlister"). But that most people who are good have the same drive as averagely talented people, but are naturally better and pull ahead.
I've just observed this reality way too often to think otherwise.
There are for sure turbo hardworkers competing for those spots. Most are normal guys just writing cuz they like it, same as everyone else, and succeeding naturally. The huge swamps of no-names in every hobby are average people just writing cuz they like it... and failing, because they're average

I'm gonna squirrel away spare change until I can buy a 10-pill blister pack of Armodafinil, 2 weeks dose. Surely it will change everything for me.

>>25241622
Try Ashwagandha. I started out with Force Factor Amazing Ashwa Ashwagandha before I moved on to this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FXJ1FGPD I strongly recommend getting the former at a physical location because it has a different formula compared to online from what I read on reviews. The amazon one is really strong but it works when it works.

>>25241630
Already tried it. It's okayish but doesn't do much. I'm also basically unaffected by caffeine. That's why I'm resorting to brute force direct action nootropics. Also looking into Bromantane.

>>25241622
What's the issue?

>>25241634
Lack of focus and executive dysfunction. When I start writing it's fine, but I sit there for six hours internally fighting myself to get myself to actually start writing. I was diagnosed with ADHD as a teenager, which is actually a pretty big deal in my country, but my retarded new ager mother disregarded the diagnosis. It's been an issue for me for a while but it's getting bad enough that I feel I must deal with it somehow. My country's psych apparatus is basically just total dogshit so buying indian armodafinil is a better option than trying to get a legit prescription at this point.

>>25241638
>>25241634
also even if I got a prescription it would be some trash like adderall which is not a real solution, I know a guy who was basically nonfunctional retard before he got on moda and now he's doing great, so I'm optimistic. Apparently ADHD and executive dysfunction, the real actual medical issue rather than "durr muh tiktok brainfry" type shit, has connections to narcolepsy, and moda/armoda is a narcolepsy medication. This checks out for me, I tend to oversleep pretty severely.

>>25241638
>>25241646
Let me know how it goes, having a similar issue here and was planning on seeing a psychiatrist about it

I read part of a self-pub around 2012 that involved a crippled war vet receiving sexual relief from a prostitute in its intro, before shit happened and he was beamed off into space.

What wild intro scenarios have you read, /wng/? I'm going to try and repost this at the start of the next thread too. :)

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>3 followers
rising stars, here I come.

>>25241770
Just top of my head, spontaneously, the closet I can think of is Messiah or CoD when Stilgar thought to himself, "hmm, maybe I SHOULD kill these children?"

>>25241436
This is a literature board.

>>25241773
I only have 1 it could be worse lol.
Do it for the love of the game

>>25241773
Literally fiction that made RS main had three followers at some point. They didn't stop there! Buy ads, shout out swap!

>>25241773
You want a shoutout, my dude? I've got a slot open on the fifth of May if you want it.

How does power progression work in capeshit like levels in litrpg and systems or realms in cultivation? Similarly, how does a mesh between litrpg and capeshit work?

>>25242008
There's a couple of options. Maybe power just grows, like you're going from a basic bitch "can bend spoons on a Wednesday" mutant to a "can bend entire concepts to achieve physical godhood" mutant eventually. Maybe you're some kind of mad scientist or engineer and you get to build more and more as you amass power. Maybe it's just cultivation realms and people use them to do capeshit stuff.

>>25242008
What kind of question even is that? Figure it out yourself, I can't built your system for you.

>>25240487
It means male gaze despite the FeMC, or ignoring concerns and actions a woman would usually have or do.

For instance, women often get leered at, especially in these fantasy settings, but the fear and disgust is not often portrayed accurately, and brushed off.

Or, what I find most annoying is, in these fantasy settings where women are on the same rung as men in terms of power (e.g. equalizing magic), the world and society is still built with the woman as a weak being; the same precepts as "normal" real life.

>>25241978
do shout outs actually work? I fail to see the logic in them.

>>25242089
>Or, what I find most annoying is, in these fantasy settings where women are on the same rung as men in terms of power (e.g. equalizing magic), the world and society is still built with the woman as a weak being; the same precepts as "normal" real life.

On this point, I agree. I think it would probably still exist to some extent since not everyone has access to the power system usually, but within the "World of Cultivation" or equivalent it would obviously be more equal.

But, since women wouldn't be "weak beings" anymore among, as before for example Cultivators, they also shouldn't be given the wiggle room to avoid accountability that women normally are given (because of their physical weakness and status as a protected class)

>>25241452
Are you talking about the author of Azarinth healer? I tried reading the new fiction he posted on RR (Veresavir) and it was easily both the worst hook/premise and worst writing I'd read in a while. Had to drop it after 5 chapters despite the hype due to how painstakingly boring it was, and the prose reading like a checklist of actions.
>He did this, he did that, he did that other thing

>>25242090
Without shoutouts, the only time your fiction is discoverable is when you post a new chapter, on New Releases, for 5-10 minutes, or, if you've made it, on Rising Stars, which is unlikely, given the number of fictions. Unless, of course, you buy an ad.

Shoutouts give a permanent free advertising slot in someone else's story, meaning every reader will be at least exposed momentarily to your fiction. If that other story grows big, you will get more and more exposure, so typically, you're gambling on those other stories making it, and they, in turn, do the same.

>>25242114
I don't wanna bother my readers shilling for someone else's turd. Instead of picking up that other guy's story, they're more likely to drop mine too

>>25242163
delusional

>>25242008
>How does power progression work in capeshit
Depends on the capeshit.

Options include, but are not limited to
>a progressing mutation
>new equipment
>a new mech
>learning a new technique/style from some master
>overcoming a psychological hurdle to eliminate a weakness or improve a strength
>biologic modification
>infection by a parasite or a disease such as vampirism or lycanthropy
>lingering effects from a body swap or other intimate encounter with another power set
>finding some artifact of power
>finding some hidden magic/technique/style
>learning to apply equipment/power in a new way
>finding out some equipment/power was actually some other equipment/power with a greater scope
>cyberization
>training arcs
>asspulls
>retcons

>Similarly, how does a mesh between litrpg and capeshit work?
Litrpg mechanics are used to explain one or more characters powersets in capeshit? It's not like litrpg capeshit is impossible to find.

>>25242114
wouldn't buying an ad be more effective?

>>25242169
People ignore / block ads. Shoutouts are free and are the first thing readers see when reading a story.

>>25242163
Sure. Have fun not getting readers.

>>25242163
They'd be shilling your turd in turn. Without networking, or a history of writing, or preparing your story well while sucking up to big authors to the point they read and enjoy your fiction, then shout you out, it's unlikely that anyone other than people making turds will be willing to exchange shoutouts.

If you want to exchange shoutouts with someone you're not embarrassed to post, then you have to do your due diligence and work separating the wheat from the chaff.

>>25242090
Yes. They work very well.

>>25242169
I'll echo >>25242171, but also: Ads cost money. Shoutouts are free except the time you put in sending PMs or looking around on Discord or whatever.

>>25241978
someone offered me a shout out on RR, but his prose is crap and his writing is "AI assisted." Despite that he has hundreds of followers and more reviews than I do. Do I bite the bullet and advertise AI slop on my story or is it as bad an idea as it feels?

>>25242227
no one will drop your story because you gave someone a shout out

>>25242178
I have more readers than anyone posting in these threads and decline all shoutouts HMM bigthinks

>>25242277
I decline shoutouts only from blatant trash and AIslop
Which is most of them

What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?

>>25242277
How many you got, big man?

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Man I'm loving pic rel. Found it 2 years ago on the 2nd arc so I waited for it to accumulate chapters. Now I read through everything and I need more.

>>25242333
I remember liking this one
dungeon core often turns softboy uwu I don't want to be a dungeon core I just wanna be friends with everyone
it's refreshing to have one that's dedicated to violence

>>25242339
Read Tenenbroum.

>>25242315
>>25242391
What a shit thread. But it can't be worse than current /sffg/.

I just read chapter 1 of Foxfire, Esq. and I already want to kms.
I'll update you on my status after chapter 10.

>>25242008
>>25242167
The easiest way would be to do a Gear Queer hero like Ironman with a vast array of funky Materials and esoteric research being the core driver behind your progression.

>Major Cypher Decoded: Einherjar Matrix (EM allows you to interface Skald Armaments)
>Minor Cypher Decoded: Ether Triangulation (75% higher chance to manifest suit in extrapalanar locations)
>Research Complete: Tesla's Testament (Add +700 Energy Units every hour on solid ground by tapping energy reserves transmitted wirelessly from base)
Essentially MC dude is progressing on the basis of what's currently cooking in his lair.

How do authors handle multiple ongoing stories in regards to patreon? Do they have different patterns set up for each story? Or do they just have one patreon where you get access to all of the ongoing stories?

>>25242468
Did you not like Tenebroum? Even if you didn't like it theres no need to be rude about it.

>>25242528
They do it differently, no standard way. Some have separate tiers, some just use the same tier to offer X ahead of both stories

>>25242528
Managing content access on Patreon is apparently a pain in the ass. I've seen the following, which I would guess are the most common strategies:
>every patron has access to all
>every patron has access to main story, higher tier has access to all stories
>a different Patreon for every story

>thought about making my story non isekai
>have second thoughts about it because isekai could help with making comparisons to a world with another
Very tempted to not make it an isekai anons... On one hand, it would make my passion project seem like a generic clone in a sea of clones. On the other hand, it could help make the worldbuilding of my story a bit easier.
I know nothing "original" is created nowadays since every story copies from others obviously, but this is from a worldbuilding standpoint mostly.
What do?

If I want to write two stories that are completely different in both tone and genre, is it better to make two separate author accounts or to have both on the same account?

>>25242481
Oh man I want to cackle about the current plot but you're not there. The irony is delicious with some current news.

Anyway yeah it's only going to get worse. I'll see you in Valhalla, brother.

>>25242549
Some people also have different low tiers for each fiction, with a higher fiction having all of them.

eg, Story 1, Story 2, and Story 3 each have a $5 tier for advanced chapters for that particular story, and then there's an $8 tier with all the Stories' advanced chapters together.

As an aside, I would actually recommend AGAINST having a low tier, low access sub option. ie, $2 tier for five chapters, $5 tier for ten chapters ahead. THAT is where the pain of managing chapters comes in. In my experience, very few people ever touch the lower tier except to immediately move up to the highest tier. It simplifies things massively to just have one tier for the advanced chapters and then never have to adjust it again. Or, in the example above, having the chapter marked as being Advanced Story 1 and in Bundled Stories 1-3 tiers.

>>25242694
There are reasons to do both. Different audiences didn't transfer over between my stories, so I didn't gain anything by sticking to one account except that people saw I was someone who had finished a longish story before. None of them read it, though.

Now if you have haters you haven't blocked already, it might be worth a fresh account to hopefully dodge them for at least your launch.

Alternatively, if you HAVE blocked a lot of haters already, new fictions on that account will be spared their hate and low ratings.

There's no one right answer and plenty of people have done it both ways and found success. It's like a 1% issue, whereas you can get 39% of the gains by focusing on improving your writing and the remaining 60% by being a consistent uploader.

>>25242702
the latest chapter was amazing. I admire the author's commitment to spreading the good message to the point of making overpowered MC have a moment of weakness to expose it, but only after putting a 400 word authors note at the start of the chapter explaining exactly what is going to happen and why we shouldn't have the MC for making this mistake.

>>25242683
It being an isekai wouldn't make it generic. It being a generic isekai is what would make it a clone of all the other generic isekais. If the story and world is unique, it being isekai hardly matters
If there's genuine merit to your story for doing so, then I say go for it. The tag also helps a lot with visibility, which is a real practical consideration if you're just starting out.

>>25242694
I would do it on different accounts. I like the freedom of dropping a story for whatever reason and not having its readers review bomb your other ones

>>25242779
>dropping a story
literal psychopath behavior

>>25242782
I've dropped like a dozen lol
Nobody is entitled to me slaving away on something I don't want to write anymore

>>25242795
You new stories are written with a lack of commitment and quitter energy that is easily discerned.

>>25242797
Simply not true

>>25242797
Stories written by authors whose passion for them died forever ago is even more noticeable tbdesu, and even more of an insult to the art

>>25242810
If you go into a project already planning to drop it you never develop said passion, that's my point. And if you habitually drop works you're carrying that mindset I to your projects whether consciously or not

>>25241281
>If I got a minimum wage job id be making ~35k USD/year
take home pay after taxes on minimum wage in the US is 6.00 an hour, and for 40 hours is about 240 dollars a week. that's 12,480 a year take home pay. Unless you're idea of "minimum wage" is the locally mandated minimum wage in some specific area/city. Like Seattle.

Reading Ascendance of a Bookworm P5V4.
I cannot take more of Wilfred and this childish version of politics shown in Ehrenfest. Absolutely not.

>>25242986
I hope we’re done with this useless shit by the next volume or I’ll just drop it.

>>25242986
>>25242988
The payoff for Bookworm is definitely satisfying, but it is unfortunate that most of the story requires everyone other than Rozemyne being retarded to function.

>>25243020
Quite literally. Rozemyne and Ferdinand being the only ones having more than a single brain cell when it comes to politics is just retarded to read, especially when the author makes entire volumes about politics.
I honestly enjoyed the previous parts more. And yeah I am not actually going to drop it now being 26 volumes in but still having to read about the fucking Leisegangs and Veronica faction is killing me.

>Paragon of Mana
>#2 RS
Holy fuck I don't think I've ever read a story more generic.

>>25243048
read RI, its peak

This is kind of a weird question, but is there a litRPG WN in the modern setting? Doesn't have to be litRPG, could just be a dude with an insanely useful power in a world full of normals.
Pretty much a guy with a power to win at life or something.

>>25243132
player manager / soccer supremo, technically

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friends we have to stop suggesting people read stories

>>25243174
engagement farming, seems to have failed though, since nobody is referencing it in the comments

Do I need to play otome games to write a villainess story?

>>25243186
It's usually a bad idea to make copies of copies of copies

>>25243186
write what you want to read

>>25243136
>player manager

Great idea. Solid implementation. Too bad the MC is a whiny unlikeable pussy.

>>25243186
Just watch Mean Girls.

>>25243132
Very surprised there aren't more WN like this with a modern setting.
I'd say it is the ULTIMATE power fantasy since it is basically based in real life.

>>25243260
There's fewer interesting ways to expand the plot if it's just the real world but the MC has X cheat
Fantastical settings are just more fun, generally, despite them being less grounded and realistic.
The middle choice is something like Solo Leveling or Shadow Slave. Based on the real world, but with fantastical elements thrown in too, not just the MC having a cheat/system.

Weirdly though, RR does have a huge lack of the latter. Where are all the Solo Leveling-esques? We only get modern setting when it's superhero