Bai Ning Bing EditionStubbed >>25256513>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>Advice for Noobs!##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##Running your story like the business it is:www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847On writing web serials:alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLY Recommended web novelsrentry.co/d2yvczroAnon's guide to successrentry.co/RRBasicGuideFAQrentry.co/pytefpxn
read Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi it's peak
I should read the two Nowhere Stars chapters that I am behind on.
>>25263457read RI its peak
If I was transmigrated into the gu world I would easily destroy fate gu and become venerable my sheer and undying love for sciv would make love gu follow me, destroy fate gu for me, revive sciv, make me venerable so I can be a fitting lover for her. If fang yuan or other venerables got in the way love gu would kill them for me. I would then refine rank 9 yin yang rotation immortal Gu and turn sciv into a futa
>>25263470>peak>wannabe fag turns men into women so he can lust over women without feeling gay
>>25263477RI is very clear about this, dual cultivation only works with a male and a female mortal gu master, and it's most effective if the other gu master is one of the ten extreme physiques. It just so happens that the only ten extreme physique gu masters (technically one of them ying wu xie is an "eleventh" extreme physique, artificially created by spectral soul demon venerable) with appropriation cultivation level for fang yuan to dual cultivate with are men, so he has to turn them into women first.
>>25263486As long as it brings benefits...
Ratings will be posted towards the end of the thread. Tell me the novels you are reading and what you think about them.
>>25263457She likes the guy way too much. Barely has any time in the new world before she's blushing every time she sees him. I get the idea that he's the only part of her old life she has, but I wish she'd clung to the idea of their rivalry for longer than she did before the romance plot appeared.
>>25263486However you are comfortable justifying your cocksucking.
>>25263494Mr Shipper disagrees with you (i had a sensible chuckle at that)
>>25263494She just danced with him, bro chill.
>>25263492Pale Lights : peak , 9,5/10. Better than most tradpubYears of the Apocalypse : MoL 2.0 . Fucking awesome timeloop and worldbuilding. 9.5/10100 Reigns : Love Simon, love the world. The loops are different each time. 9/10Player 0.4 : Not what is says on the tin. Again , awesome worldbuilding but a bit slow some times. 7.5/10Apocalypse Reborn. 4x strategy game reincarnation story. Probably bad but I love all the strategy game references. 7/10Attorney to the Villainess : Hit and miss. Needs more villainess scenanegans. 7/10Timeloop Moronmagus : Just very funny. 8/10DCC : peak. Some books less than others. 9/10One Piece : Give me more worldbuilding , Oda! 8/10 , terrible pasing lately.The Wandering Inn : eh , fastfood fantasy. 7/10 , just for some of the highest highs.Hierarchy : very mid , don't know why everyone went apeshit about it. 6/10Children of Time : 10/10 . best sf series imo.
>>25263492>>25263526I also started Metaworld Hopecore. Still too early to judge but yeap : 100% petal-to-the metal hopecore. Nice 00s nostalgia vibes at the start.
Horrible news, I was just informed that RI was unbanned by the CCP.
>>25263526How can you keep track of so many storylines at the same time?
>>25263538>it' realhttps://www.qidian.com/chapter/1039889503/902092903/
>>25263559Reading more than one book throughout your life increases your cognitive abilities, RIfag.
>>25263559Doesn't seem too much to me so no idea.It helps that it's weekly/daily releases.
>>25263567>>25263569I guess you start remembering if you keep reading chapters regularly
>>25263526maybe one day I'll see mine mentioned...
>>25263565REALEALIt's been so long I fear he is ruin the ending. Better no ending at all than a bad ending.
>>25263678which iiiiis....?Don't tell title if you don't want but what tropes are we talking about?
>>25263683Can't polish a turd. Trash is still trash no matter how you dress it.
>>25263683eh , Release That Witch wasn't so bad. Just rushed.
>>25263689Hater. What did RI do to you to make you hate it so much?
>ChineseNightfallThe Grandmaster StrategistThe Experimental Log of the Crazy Lich>JPSevensFaraway PaladinMushoku Tensei>KoreanRegressor Instruction ManualDungeon DefenseInfinite Regressor
>>25263525Dance would have been better without the blushing
Best anon webnovels?
>>25263821mine
>>25263821mine, obviously
>>25263821Mine but it's not written yet
>>25263030This an excerpt from one of the most successful western winnie writers
>>25263526TYOA gets better than MoL imo, hopefully it nails the landing to really secure its place
>>25263868what's wrong with this other than the last line
>>25263821Glass Cannon
>>25263821Stranger's Fate.
>>25263821That one that got posted last thread.
>>25263886So mine, then? Thanks for your support anon
RI coming back sucks now these fags will destroy the threads when a new chapter gets released. I hope it’s bad and you all jump
what rare gems has the website gifted you with
What are gu?
>>25263821The Dragon and The Author
>>25263881Seriously? The politicization of covid, a controversy from 4-6 years ago, the millennial writing, and the negativity in the main character's portrayal. He's weak and gets shat on and has no redeeming qualities other than, I guess, the right poltics (as in he respects 'the science' and he's a downtrodden poor, which supposedly gives him instant moral superiority).It's objectively bad. Selkie clearly wrote this four years ago and did no updating between then and posting it earlier this year or late last year I can't be assed to check.The opening to BTDEM is much stronger. In fact it's not even a fair comparison, the opening to BTDEM is just really really strong.A more apt comparison would be Azarinth Healer's opening, compared to that excerpt from Song of the Gift-Giver. The MC of AH also starts in a similar way, with the drudgery of every day life, but Rhaegar lampshades it by pointing out that yes, it's the dull every day opening but there's going to be mysterious fantasy stuff soon, so just wait. And in fact that does come, and we get a sense of proactivity from Ilea when she uses the skill she has (punching things) to try and deal with her fantasy situation before she gets her initial class.https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/16946/azarinth-healer/chapter/198097/chapter-1-boring-introduction-where-is-the-magicThere's even literally a scene in that chapter of Ilea working a fast food job, with similar annoying customer. It's written MUCH better. See screenshot.
>>25263868haha fucki wish i had not opened that image because i actually like selkie
>>25263868yeah, it’s bad, but your eastern slop is even worse btw
>>25263716> What did RI do to you to make you hate it so much?I read it.
>>25263917It's a good story.
>>25263909Song is bad, BTDEM started great and then fell off. It happens. It's okay to acknowledge that someone you like isn't actually the greatest author of all time.
>>25263922Obviously didn't read it.
>>25263922(If you’re 14)
>>25263886t-thanks...
sometimes I think about how that guy who took a shot at the president had a bunch of people buy his shitty steam game and I wonder how popular my novel would get if I also tried to kill the president
>>25263948add it to the precepts
>>25263951lol
>>25263951>>25263948>>25263955It's a joke but it's also pretty much true, albeit not as specifically as written.Because the best way to sell books... Is to first get famous from something else.
How is this for a webnovel prompt?>nation detonates a destructive weapon>life ends>undead begin civilization anew>until EVIL appearsThis is from a game I'm playing where you control an undead skeleton dude
>>25263965I love undeaddo it
>>25263965doesn't this describe every other story on the platform
>>25263965that's nice, now let's see the first chapter you have written for it.
>>25263686it's always crow-anon. biggest tsundere author lurker we have. she's (mc) my wife btw crow-kun.
>>25264075no I'm not him
>>25264085she's my wife btw.
>>25264075>>25264130Are you still reading the story or do you just enjoy the idea of her?
>>25264143too busy with work because of deadlines so I haven't caught up yet. I enjoy both the actual her and the idea of her.thx for the new design btw (I always imagined her with tsurime eyes).
so who was the crow and who was the rabbit
>naming main characters>first character decided>second character idea starts with the same letter as the firstthe alliteration feels so corny I can't commit to thiswhat's a name that gives the same impression as Jean?
>>25264279Jeanetteor perhaps Jon
>>25264289I was hoping to escape the alliteration also it's probably the most retarded take you'll ever hear but Jean and Jon make me think of totally different characters
>>25264226i live in an area with wild crows and rabbits but uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh i guess the elves are the crow and the humans are the rabbit
>>25264279Mary
>>25264279Rene, Blaise, Corwin, Charles
I’m sick of isekais.Most isekai stories don’t even take advantage of the fact that the MC has been reincarnated. The MC just slips right into the role no problem. Then after a few chapters, he sees himself AS the character, thinking, acting, and taking offense to things other people say and do to him as if he was the original character. So what’s the point?If the point is to provide a relatable wishfulfilment avatar for the reader, then there’s a hundred different ways to handle it other than isekai:Following the MC from birthAmnesiaCrash lands/shipwrecks on alien soilWandering into a new townNormal kid stumbles into a magical societyNormal dude stumbles into a magical societyWaking up from a comaWaking up as an undeadSick of being a loser and decides to turn his life aroundBeing forced by his parents to turn his life aroundGetting kicked out of homeRunning away from homeLeaving for college/magical schoolFirst day on the jobFirst day after the divorceMoving to a new neighborhoodGetting cursed by a witchBeing enslavedGetting arrestedEscaping from prisonEtc.
>>25264382portal fantasy >>> isekaiisekai has been played out for years>Most isekai stories don’t even take advantage of the fact that the MC has been reincarnatedmost of the people writing portal fantasy are doing it because it's the path of least resistance as an author. either from a writing perspective, in which they have a narrative device to be an excuse for writing the protag with their own voice, or from the perspective of a market whore trying to trend chase>lists inciting incidentsthe reincarnation/transmigration is usually not the actual inciting incident. it's really just a framing device
>>25263754Sevens needed more interaction with the female leads. The harem part was pointless because he interacted so little with them.
>>25263525And this is why feMC novels suck. Guy tells you that he doesn't like the story and why and you immediately go "nuh-uh, you must like this passive character"
>>25264382>Following the MC from birthThe formative years are boring. Either he's a genius kid and does things at a fast too young age (which is awkward) or he has to have a huge shift in character on why he goes on an adventure rather than stay in the life he was in before. (Why not just start the story at the shift?)>AmnesiaBoring>Crash lands/shipwrecks on alien soilThis is Isekai>Wandering into a new townHe can always just wander out. He's still the same person in the same circumstances before he wandered into the town. >Normal kid stumbles into a magical society>Normal dude stumbles into a magical societyUrban fantasy = boring. If it's not urban fantasy then your MC is an illiterate peasant. >Waking up from a comaUrban fantasy = boring. If it's not urban fantasy then it's functionally the same as Isekai.>Waking up as an undeadThat's retarded >Sick of being a loser and decides to turn his life aroundSure>Being forced by his parents to turn his life aroundBoring relationshit drama>Getting kicked out of home>Running away from homeSure, as long as it's not a modern setting. >Leaving for college/magical schoolHard to make relevant. Either he's already been a student for a while or he's learning the basics of magic, therefore nothing too exciting can really happen because MC is just a beginner mage. That's why Harry Potter had that whole chosen one thing going on. You can't just have magic academy.>First day on the jobSounds great, but not fantasy, and will be a short story. >First day after the divorceBack to facebook with you >Moving to a new neighborhoodI'm not sure what you expect to come from a story like this. Drama about the upstairs neighbors being too loud? Kids from the neighboring house playing music too loud? Sounds boring as fuck. >Getting cursed by a witchSure, but it can easily make MC too passive>Being enslavedThis makes the MC passive. Passive = boring. I've read a number of these and at this point I drop the story when I see this. They have all been boring with a passive MC.>Getting arrested>Escaping from prisonYet again boring urban setting. >Etc.Etc what? You had like 4 workable ideas in that entire list.
for word count in a litrpg, should my target word count be inclusive of the system garbage in among it? e.g the pop ups and repetitions of "+EXP" and so onor should i be aiming for a consistent word count in terms of narration and dialogue, the bits that are actually read and not glossed over
Wow that's a lotta wordsToo bad I ain't readin em
>>25264494joyless drone
>>25264500Ignore the system stuff in word count or increase your word count expectations by how much you typically spend on system prompts.Try to write the system prompt stuff in a way that's friendly to the story being read as an audio book. If listeners don't want to listen to pointless details all the time, then neither do the readers.(Although it might be a good idea to post the MC's stat sheet at the end of a chapter once in a while.)
>Receive message on social media from someone offering to help "spread advertising" for my fiction>Thought avatar looked slightly weird despite message seeming coherent>Check account>it's a crypto bot account for variations of Pepe shitcoins reposting (bad) AI pornI'm getting pranked hard, bros.
>>25264130>>25264143>>25264169which story is this elf from
>>25264520Raven and Hare
>>25264522link
>>25264520The Corvid and The Leporidae
>>25263526>Years of the Apocalypse : MoL 2.0 . Fucking awesome timeloop and worldbuilding. 9.5/10This sounds great. I recently finished Mother of Learning and would like some more, but when I checked it out: >feMCLooking at the rest of your list they're all probably feMC, aren't they? Maybe I was expecting too much from western WNs.
>>25264512Anon it's 2026, EVERY account is a bot account until proven otherwise. All cold approaches are predatory. You need to be running on a whitelist system: if you don't have them in your contacts already, from meeting them in person, then they're a bot or scammer of some kind.The internet is fucking fake and dead. And that's a good thing.
>>25264538read RI its peak
>>25264538>>25264541bots
>>25264511>Try to write the system prompt stuff in a way that's friendly to the story being read as an audio book.this shit is NOT friendly for an audiobook, i'm basically writing out the UI as it would appear to the character, at least for this first chapteror rather, i have the UI along with the protagonist's actions, so i guess an audiobook would just cut out the supplementary interface text and focus on the stuff the MC is actually interfacing withthe reason why i ask is because this first chapter is very deliberately heavy on system with instant communication and pop-ups and notifications, then every other chapter it will be very sparse, as the MC is doing something analogous to "unplugging" or "going offline"
>>25264541No.>>25264547No.>>25264549You can consider the words as part of the chapter size for the first few times. If you have the readers hooked then they're probably willing to read it.
>>25264541Mol reader trying to read RI will result in them having a mental breakdown
>>25264549Why not just add an image of the UI rather than writing it out? I’ve seen people start doing this and it makes sense
>>25264560what’s MoL? RI is way better than it probably
>>25264541No, kill yourself.
>>25264566A novel about some autist, very mid and frankly boring and unexciting.
>>25264520>>25264531https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/63818/the-crow-and-the-rabbit
>>25264592enjoy your 5 star!
>>25264549Wordcount literally doesn't matter. Do as you like.>audiobookWorry about that when you hit 4000 followers and a thousand patrons and mangomedia reaches out to publish your winnie as a book. There's literally no value in worrying about it until that point.
>>25264541I will saw your hands off if I ever meet you in real life.
>>25264707Don't respond to bait. Report it.>advertising/spamming>trolling outside /b/>extremely low quality postHe already got banned once for spamming pictures of excerpts of trash. It's only a matter of time until a mod puts up a word filter on his favorite shitposts.
>>25264717He's been spamming since 2019. No matter how many times that degenerate abortion reject gets banned, he will be back. Same with /sffg/'s Bakkerfag who has been spamming since 2016.If I ever met either of these two ASPDfags in the real world, I would happily end their lives.
>>25264722alhamdulillahgo forth my literati jihadi
uh oh melty
>>25264725>random Jewish desert tribe religious beliefYeah, you're a newfag and a literal golem who would be killed in real life for your aggressive behavior.
chapter 2 of autistic friendless willy wonka is underwayi can't publish chapter 1 right now because the formatting is bad and i need to get a better idea of what i'm doing first
>"Oh! There she is!" Mari exclaimed, dragging him over and quickly approaching one of the outer patio tables, practically throwing herself forwards and tackling a woman in a full-body hug. Ryoma raised his brows as he followed, hands in his pockets and expectations excised.>The first thing he noticed were the two enormous jugs. Giant well-rounded gourds of treated clay covered a fine protective lacquer and carried with two long leather straps. They had huge red corks on the top with the word 'Water' written in bold white kanji. You occasionally saw such gourds for carrying water around, smaller of course, and actually made from dried hardshell gourds instead of carved from wood in imitation of said gourds.>"Nagare! Did you order already?!""Mari. I see you are doing well.">They were usually the budget alternative to metal canteens, the kind he used himself for his daily water needs. The fact that she had special-made gourds of that scale meant that she was probably making something of a fashion statement.>"Heh- you told me you didn't like ice candy! What gives with suggesting a place like this, huh?">"I developed a taste for it.">Also her tits were massive and it was really difficult to avoid staring at them. It was impolite to stare, of course, but they were each the size of his head at minimum, kept in check with one of those bandage-wrapping bras and loose tan shirt. Frankly unreasonable in scale and shape, something that his pubescent male brain sent constant 'Emergency! Critical targets ahead!' reports blaring through his head about.src. Nin-to-Five
>>25264762this kind of soul-baring authorial honesty is only found in fanfics for some reason
Queued up my first shout-out swaps. Lucked out with some decently popular writers humoring me. Wish me luck, guys!
>>25264762>Baal Buddy
>Read a Korean web novel about a super Robin Hood-type character fighting corruption in a darker Korean society>Contains a bunch of thinly veiled references to real world Korean scandals>By the end of it the MC has lead the mass slaughter of much of the business class/government/police/media/military leadership for their involvement in various crimes>Basically the entire book ends up as a blatant call for violent popular socialist revolt in the real world against the elites in Korea with the writer soap boxing about how sheep not for it are wormsBased>Also calls for the dead corrupt judiciary to be replaced with AI for less biased sentencingIt's like he got 95% of the way to the finish line and then took a hard right into a brick wall on a straightaway.Also the writer was REALLY mad about porn regulation, lmao.
>>25265106koreans seem like a very repressed culture
>>25264606>There's literally no value in worrying about it until that point.You worry about it because if people won't want to listen to these stat sheets being read out loud to them, then they also won't read them in your book. You need to integrate the stats in a way where the user doesn't feel like looking them over is a chore.
>>25265111great recipe for art
>>25265106Oh, also the writer needs to work on writing/pacing romance. There was 1 smut chapter at around the 2/3rds mark and then all the epilogues were smut. Also he has 3 of the heroines confess to the MC during the story, but he has them agree to a harem ending and a 4th heroine confess OFF PAGE between the ending and the epilogues (ironically after the MC had already decided not to pursue the 4th heroine, although it is specifically mentioned she went after him, and also expanding the harem is allowed as long as he has a personal connection with new recruits).Finding out the big sister type nun superheroine was a slutty slob with a defeat kink out of character almost made the shitty wait for smut worth it though. MC walks in on her living in a complete sty jilling off to old footage of him and she literally snaps and jumps his bones since the image she was trying to present is ruined anyway.
>>25264762I hate this retarded nigger artist so much.
>>25263451RI will be back and the useless the author will kill this useless character.
>>25265106AI sentencing is 200% based though, judiciary will inevitably corrupt
>>25265239>just adjudication requires unbiased rationality>lets have a lingual heat map randomly cast judgementthe techno oligarchy has corrupted you
>>25265106Holy based.Pic semirelated because I'm reading >Clonemancy: Ascension Through a Thousand Clonesfrom Rising Slops and wishing it was half as hardcore as Akumetsu when it came to the "use clones to live full lives as random occupations and gradually accumulate an Übermensch" mechanic.
>>25265271>pickinoI've always thought clone powers were the sickest. I was gonna write this sorta story but I thought about how much constant research it'd take to do justice to a character that's specialized in everything and gave it up
>>25265106name?
>>25265130Why not start the review with the important stuff?
>>25265106yes, the south koreans must recognize the divine blood of the Kim dynasty and reunite Korea under Juche.
>>25265239Which is how Johnny Somali only got 6 months despite all of the shit he did.
>>25265401Don't fall for the unholy union of reddit circlejerk buzzkills who hate anything fun, and Facebook racists who only hate him because he was black. Johnny Somali didn't do anything bad enough to warrant any jail time in a civilized country. The only reason he got 6 months is because Korea is a backwards country
>>25265412He was black? He should have gotten more time for that alone, SK is too kind.
>>25265111>>25265106Porn is literally illegal in their country
>>25265106Which novel is this?
>>25265106Sounded quite interesting until I saw this >>25265130 Seems like it's just another coomshit novel by some seething incel. I don't understand why you people post them here, it's a /b/ or /a/ tier material, it does not belong on /wng/
>>25264382all of those are forms of isekai althoughbeit
>>25265412One of the charges is a child sex crime.
>>25265106how fucking demented do you have to be to write a greentext about a fake story just to rag about some off-topic bullshit
>>25265569wrong
>>25265412why defend a registered sex offender?
What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?
>>25264592why does she always look like she's about to cry
Anything decent released on RR in the past month? Top RS looks pretty bad
Anyone read fast food fantasy stories on RR?Any suggestions?
>>25264279Gene
>>25265695He isn't a sex offender though.>The American streamer shared on his stream an AI-generated video of him kissing a female Korean streamer known online as ‘BongBong IRL’. He also showed a similar video of a male Korean steamer named ‘YungMan’.
>>25265724Mine was released, but it's doing better on scribblehub.
>>25264494>>Waking up as an undead>That's retardedThe Undead King of the Palace of Darkness did that and it worked great. (The main character had been raised by a necromancer.)
>get new comment>mildly negative, annoying opinion>check profile>all negative reviews>put the kid gloves on, walk on eggshells to reply optimistically so they don't drop a 0.5 starWhy do some people just hate everything?
>>25265724> look at RS> these 5 chapters seems good> add to Read Later> I'll wait 12 months until there's enough content> author got bored, stopped writing or deleted their story.
>>25266088Damn, FOMO for a RR story? Crazy.
Oh nyo
>>25265412He got off too lightly, nuisance streamers deserve the death penalty
>>25266120Based? Which novel?
>>25266120Suffer not the Izenheim to live.
>>25266149Semi-Coercive Imperialist by Jee Gab Song
>>25266000They just want attention and to feel important. I've found that if their first post goes ignored, they usually won't ask for more.
>>25265530>6 sex scenes, one of which doesn't even make it to penetration, across 142 chapters, all but 1 of which are in the epilogue, makes something coomshitExcuse me?>>25265277>>25265516I Am a Villain and My Identity Was Immediately Discovered>>25265575>implying I made that shit up
>>25266265is it peak though?
>>25266265Any "novel" with sex in it is coomshit.
>>25266285Based
>>25266285what if it is lesbian sex?
>>25266269MC runs around dressed like Kaitou Kid in a white mask and at one point he uses his door creation powers to open a dude's chest like a fucking cabinet and crush his still beating heart with his bare hand.
>>25266291i will accept this, we all want to read hot elf lesbian sex
>>25265271>AkumetsuIronically, or possibly intentionally, this MC has clone powers too. I was definitely thinking about Akumetsu while reading it.
>>25266265where can you read this
>>25266285>Any "novel" with sex in it is coomshit.Uh...The Tale of Genji?
>>25266296Lame desu
>>25266312>https://fucknovelpia.com/novel/i-am-a-villain-and-my-identity-was-immediately-discovered
>>25266321>Download EPUBbased
>>25266320The evil Korean National Assembly all have iron man suits and also the MC's sidekick is a 19yo former child soldier that had been in a coma for 10 years and also he fucks her.
>>25266328The pass: taiwanandnorthkorea
>>25266341>also he fucks her.coomer shit
RTOC chapter 129While I didn’t like the idea of a love story for a regressor, this arc ended up being unexpectedly good. The actual romance itself didn’t really have much going for it, but then turning into a revenge story right when it was going to get cheesy was pretty good, the fight with Yuan Li was pretty long but the end was cathartic. He also got a new power-up but I think with this he’s pretty much the strongest person in the world at this point? I guess the next arc would be about ascension for it to have tension. Anyway, I did end up liking this WN, so thanks for the anon who recommended me this.
>>25266492Obviously the next arc is about ascending to the Middle Realm. And dealing with Seo Hweol.
>>25266492>I didn’t like the idea of a love storyThe entire novel is about love story and human relationship. It's like someone read murderhobo edgelord wuxia novel mc like fang yuan and that guy from shadow slave and decided to write his mc as the complete opposite of that trope
>>25266501Seo Hweol is such a massive piece of shit. Will be nice when he gets dealt with. I really expected the Mad Lord to be a bigger antagonist from how they were presented to us initially.
>>25266505I also got this impression. It's why I always describe RToC as "A direct refutation of RI".Because it's accurate, but also because it makes RItards seethe.
>>25266516>I always describe RToC as "A direct refutation of RI".I will now read A Regressor's Tale of Cultivation by 엄청난.
>>25266505>>25266516MC retaining his humanity and not going on a cynical quest to gain more and more power is pretty great yeah. He’s fairly likable as far as cultivation MCs go aside from the annoying inferiority complex that always seems to come back. The reason I didn’t really like the idea of a love story initially was that with the whole cycles thing it’s pretty obvious that it’d only really last for a single cycle, but it did end up good in the end, so it’s all fine. There’s some set up for the next love interest with the colleague who liked him too, though idk who it could be from the crew he comes with. Don’t really remember anything of that sort being implied early on when he was interacting more with them, but maybe I missed it. The worldbuilding is also getting interesting now, with some revelations about the nature of it being told to us in this arc. >>25266521While I don’t know enough about RI to agree/disagree on this point, I’ve only read 1 volume of it, the writing of RI is just painfully bad. Not saying that RTOC is some masterpiece of writing, but in comparison, it is far more readable.
unfortunately i have to agree with the writing of RI being painfully bad. it gave me a headache and i consider myself a slop connoisseur, searching for elf lesbian sex across various stories. i think someone should rewrite it and make FY a girl, then the BNB sex scenes would go really hard
>>25266537There are several notable RI fanfics and they're all better written than RI, lol
>itt: ppl who have eyes and can’t recognize mt tai read RI again. its peak. stick to it for 1000 chapters
>>25266540they're fucking obsessedit's frankly pathetic how mindbroken they are
>>25266540>>25266541>samefagging this hardreverend insanity faggots are insane
>>25266541>>25266540posts exactly a minute apart, nice samefag nigger
>>25266541it’s ok brother, they are judging it just by reading 10% or not even that of the chapters, they know nothing and are just ignorant. eventually they will have nothing to do and read it and curse themselves for being so stupid to ignore the treasure right in front of them while settling for trash which merely apes RI like rtoc or whatever the fuck they’re talking about
>>25266527>MC retaining his humanity and not going on a cynical quest to gain more and more power is pretty great yeah.Why even cultivate then? Cultivation is a choice, if one does not want to gain more power then there is no point in spending time and energy to cultivate, they can just live a regular life of a "mortal".
>>25266546I will now read A Regressors Tale of Cultivation, just because it makes you seethe.
>>25266548Seo's motivation to cultivate is to defend those who matter to him and overturn the current corrupt order of higher cultivators, more or less. And to get rid of his infinite regression, at first.
>>25266542>>25266543check IP count next time retards
>>25266546>it gets good after 200 chapters
>>25266555I'm checking this full house
>>25266548He does want to gain power, but not at the cost of his humanity. The goal is to get rid of his regression and go back to his own world, cultivation seems like the most likely path to that goal.
>>25266165This entire novel is just the mc aura farming while being a nazi
>>25266567I will now read this novel
does rtoc have hot lesbian sex? i was really sad at not having enough slop brain to be able to consume RI
>>25266564thisit is shown in story and also confirmed out of story that Seo's supreme talent that he got as part of being an Ender was a talent for demonic cultivationwhich he categorically refuses to use for the most part except for a few methods that don't require you to reap other people, like one that harvests his own death aura accumulated through dying over and over
>>25266165>>25266567what race is he talking about and why?
>>25266569No but there's this thinghttps://youtu.be/ngTm-dH_42c?si=r9Hhbw45lZYGyeFR
>>25266569it does have a freakass sex immortal who changes shape and is obsessed with trying to screw seo for several million years straight
>>25266571Can you please spoiler things, I am in the middle of reading this work and am only at chapter 129.
>>25266554That'a like saying he needs to earn more money to provide for those he cares about. People who aren't doing it for their own sake (out of passion/interest/obsession) rarely make it.Also who is he protecting? I hope not his wife/gf because that would be a simp behavior.
>>25266577>>25266579hmm i will give it a try. there needs to be more yuri in this world
>>25266583he is a pathetic simp kissless virgin. read RI its peak
>>25266583The other enders he came to Mt. Sumeru with and also other characters he cares about native to the world. There is some romance but not that much.The whole thing around the Dao is around "ideology" and "pushing through your own interpretation". The story can be somewhat summed up as Seo forcing through his ideals against the reigning immortals because their callous beliefs are distasteful to him.
>>25266594note that this is not entirely accurate and only partially true because I don't want to spoil the big stuffbut basically Seo responds oppositely to regression that most, deciding to never forget any loop and that every time he loops it's like everyone he knows dying because the people in the next regression are no longer the same
>>25266595One thing I like is that the loops (until as of now) are fairly long.
>>25266542People become addicted to escalating tensiona nd cliffhangers very easily. We have had 100 years of television social programming where our stress pleasure and novelty hormones are toyd with by sitcoms and Mad Men like shows between commercial breaks
>>25266598This won't change outside of a few exceptions.
>>25266595Is it some misery garbage like re zero?
you all are misinterpreting RI and i only feel pity that you won’t be able to experience kino and peak
>>25266609Kek why care about others? It's irrelevant and it will bring you no benefit whether they experience it or not
>>25266608It is suffering porn, but in a good way with climax that fills you with hope
>>25266608I also somewhat expected this but surprisingly it never crosses the threshold of miseryporn, there's always a ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER type of undercurrent even in the darkest moments. And I hate Rezero.Also there's a manhwa covering some of the very early chapters. If you read it first, read the novel as well, as the manhwa skips a bunch of stuff. It's a pretty good adaptation though.
>>25266621by "read the novel" i mean "don't skip the chapters the manhwa covers"
>>25266617No thanks, I read to relax and enjoy the story, not wallow in misery.
>>25266630>t. only reads solo leveling tier powerwank trash You should read RI I think.
>>25266630Presence of suffering or misery only enhances the catharsis at the end. There’s no reason to keep cranking powerups without facing walls to earn them.
>>25266540what is it about the phrase "it's peak" that attracts retards to its use?seems like a relatively harmless buzzword but I only see it used by braindead mongs
>>25266641peak seething
>>25266633You should too. It helps to read the series you're shitposting about, it makes you look less like a clueless retard.
>>25266617You should read Mainlander.
>>25266542It's mainly one guy who has been spamming about the series since 2019. I couldn't imagine reading SO LITTLE BOOKS and having such a small vocabulary that you could only describe your favorite books are "peak" and "kino". How insulting.
Yeah can you like try describing why RI is so good for example if you want to evangelize it this hard? Like how these people are promoting Rtoc? At least put some effort in
>>25266656that guy is peak ngl frfr, he lowkey bussin
>>25266641Newfags spam whichever buzzwords are in vogue whenever they first come to 4chan.
>>25266659fang yuan aura farms for 2000 chapters, it’s so fucking peak and he is so cold and calculating it’s crazy. 10000000x better than the virgin simp mc’s in other novels or god forbid fmcs that ppl read here
Where do I read RToC? I have no idea where people go to read eastern translated novels.
>>25266668i read it on wetried.tlbut there's also a collected epub you can download from like zlib
>>25266668Since I read on my e-reader I have to get ePubs. For RTOC, I found this post and generated my own. https://www.reddit.com/r/ereader/s/PenqMUgjZ9It’s also on novelfire.
>>25266637I don't disagree but facing hardships and difficulties is not the same as suffering porn.
>>25266673What garbage shitty ereader do you use that ONLY supports .epub?>not using calibre to change file formatThis post is as embarrassing as the RIspammer.
>>25266678an ereader's only purpose is to display epubs.
>>25266678I use KOReader on kindle. It supports other formats, but I like to keep my library all in ePub for reflowable text and other features. I used to use Calibre for managing my library, but now I use my own tool for it.
>>25266666Wasted digits. You clearly haven't read RI.
>>25266683>.epub is the only e-reader file formatAre you being obtuse on purpose?
>>25266687who are you quoting? anyway, epub is the only format that matters.
>>25266687What format is better than epubs for reading books on e-reader devices? If you say PDF I’ll throw up.
>>25266692You here >>25266683
>>25266697try reading, dumb retardalso read >>25266694
maybe he thinks ereader means like ebook apps on mobile? or a bait for (you)s
>>25266673Why won't you tell me what ereader you use that only supports .epub? Must be RIfag throwing a fit.
>>25266708see >>25266683
>>25266708Huh? >>25266684 I already told you.
People that like haremslop and actively recommend it should all drop dead, die, die, die
>>25266720kyubey pls go
Always demand a timeline from your artists, lads.
>>25266721Do you... wish for it?
Does RoyalRoad allow foot fetish content as long as there is some literary merit and narrative to it?I know I could use wattpad or something even gayer than wattpad but RR has readers
>Reverend Insanity is a dark xianxia web novel about Fang Yuan, a ruthless cultivator who, at the end of a doomed battle, uses the Spring Autumn Cicada to send his soul back 500 years into his younger body on Qing Mao Mountain. He keeps all his memories and experience, then starts rebuilding his power with one cold, simple objective: eternal life. The world is built around Gu—sentient parasitic insects that each grant a single ability. Cultivators must find, refine, feed, and combine these Gu, so power comes from strategy, resources, and cruelty as much as raw strength. The setting is split among five major regions, and conflict is baked into the whole system because resources are limited. That is the core of the thing: not a heroic chosen-one tale, but a villain-protagonist grind through a hostile cultivation world. Fang Yuan schemes, betrays, and massacres when useful, which is a big reason the novel got its cult following. This is what chatgbts summary of RI. Is if accurate?
>>25266754yes it’s accurate
>>25266744i am interested in your work.
>>25266744pretty sure its fine so long as there's no explicit sex. softcore fetish fic is probably an unexplored nichepic related had a short run on rising starsI wish there were more fetish litRPGs. h-games and scenarios like level drain or cursed equipment show how good litRPG could beif you write footfag fics you'll have at least one dedicated reader
>>25266778>>25266776Someday I'd like to figure the equation of making litrpgs for the female audience. I think the literal insight to growth can make for a comforting The foot thing is only a spur of the moment thought that an external genius keeps bugging me about:>man in paris who happens to work at a salon >gets isekaid>fantasy world>there is no such thing as pedicures here and the beast folk have stinky feet so he starts a business It could be fun
>>25266801Oh, didnt finish the first paragraph. Girls are constantly noticing and often overthinking minute social cues.I think that something like a relationship bar and gaining experience by making friends would appeal to females.
>>25266801>terrible premisemy hopes dashed, my dreams ruined
>>25266815What would you do for a foot related webnovel?
>>25266820not stinky beast folk feet
>>25266754Pretty much, yeah. The world is a massive grimdark shithole where only the most ruthless and competent survive. The higher in rank you go the more apparent it is, which makes the story exponentially more tense and engaging. The classic incompetent cocky young masters plaguing xianxia are almost nonexistent, because they simply get devoured.>eternal lifeHis goal is a fair bit more complex than "eternal life". He does not prioritize his life over everything else.What he wants and is 100% committed to is the unapologetic PURSUIT of the greatest possible objective, which for him is eternal life, through any means necessary. He is old, jaded, and tired of worldly matters, and the only life he finds worth living is one of struggle where he gave it his all without ever lying to himself.Basically, he finds the game of war and subterfuge immensely thrilling, down to his core. But he also has no issue throwing away his dignity and behaving like a subhuman, even going as far as never taking revenge for faceslapping or caring about his reputation (he finds it pointless), which I think separates him from the average aurafarmer MC which only exists for fanservice's sake.
>>25266555ip count was removed a while ago retard
>>25266820take inspiration from femdom h-games and doujins>specific ideasif I weren't a writer with high hopes for my ability to write hundreds of stories in my lifetime I'd tell you. but I think I'm hot shit so I'm not gonna
>>25266826Its not like it would only be beastfolk customers. He'd get the mermaids, hobbits, giant, and nagas and forthEach creature would have different needs
>>25266837>mermaids
>>25266829Did the ccp ban it because it may stoke disillusionment with society and the social contract and individiation?
>>25266837>foot fetish fic about pedicurist (person who works to clean up gross, fucked up feet)>foot fetish fic focusing on anthros (who don't have humanoid feet)>doesn't know about the borderline smut on RR>wants le female audienceimpressively clueless. tourist2
>>25266829And that's basically why typical litrpg/isekai fantasy fans hate the novel so much.
>>25266842>>25266853If you cant imagine the needs of a mermaids tail then you have no imagination
>>25266862>tail
>>25266829this sounds awful
>>25266862. . .
>>25266849Nobody knows the specific reason why they banned it. Given that it ran for 2000+ chapters the most likely reason is the final battle, FY going against the heavenly court might have been perceived as anti government sentiment.
>>25266849It was half because it has some slightly too obvious criticisms of the CCP and various officials, and half because Dead Wife Demon Venerable (Tang San, author of Soul Land) was seething about its popularity and pushed for it to be banned. note I am not a RI fan but I am aware of some matters to do with it
>>25266871What's awful? Let me guess, archmage fan?
>>25266878Probably a mol fan
>>25266877did chinks really like this novel?
>>25266878>grimdark shithole >acts like a subhuman>>25266882sure yeah
When did this thread get fully taken over by the eastern slop readers? This is the worst I've ever seen it
>>25266892Let me guess, Harry potter fan?Do you have the chapter of secrets tattooed somewhere? Somewhere naughty?
>>25266883They loved it to an extreme degree, even moreso than western RItards. Not shocking.
>>25266892>/wng/ — Web Novel General>actual web novel discussion
>>25266892>almost 300 posts>most of them are RIfag astroturfing I assume it's because of >>25263538worst thing about generals is that one or two people can dictate the entire spacemods are bums so the thread is entirely at the mercy of dedicated spergs
>>25266896maybe it reads better in the original language. the translator is to blame for me being unable to consoom it
>>25266902>blaming RI fans for defending when it’s the RTOCfags spamming the thread and trying to downplay RIYou are retarded.
>>25266926>rtochads have a civil discussion>rifag spergs out for no reason at all
>>25266932>rtochads>when the MC is so feminine that he might as well be a fmc They started it btw, by bringing up RI for no reason at all. Nobody is sperging out except for the people seething about RI.
>>25266902>dungeons dragons and Daddy issues over here.People take on the identity of the media they consume and and if you talk shit they take it personal
>>25266926Its misrepresentational to say RI is about a guy to forces genderswaps on others so he can steal jade fluid from them and thats what they've done since the thread started
>>25266945dude. please make some friendshow can you understand that nobody wants you hear, experience being antagonized and made fun of constantly, and still hang out here all the timethere has to be places where people want to talk with you about RI and respect your opinions and want to hear them. why shit up here where nobody likes you or shares your interests?
>>25266945He is above morals or things like that.
>>25266954bro at least try reading it i’m telling you it’s peak
It’s so fucking funny to me that all the RItard is doing is pushing people away from “peak” by spamming about it. I’d almost think it was a false flagged but apparently he’s been doing it since 2019.
>>25266966don't dodge the point by hiding behind your shill personawhy? there are places where people like RI, why stay here? it's evident that people here hate you. what's the point of posting here every day?
>>25266000Really bad move. It's infinitely easier to just block them, then they can't leave a review at all. I don't think they even realize they've been blocked until they can't comment. I always leave DM's unchecked and nobody ever bothers to cuss me out in DMs. But I know for a fact I've blocked a few bad ratings by preemptively blocking, and failed to block a few bad ratings by being asleep when the negative comment spiral begins.
>>25266120>The problem was this, like a broken clock that is right twice a day, their blind hatred and discrimination had been right about exactly one race.Read the novelLiterally every other race, except one, is as bad as the Empire says they are, to the point the MC stops going “Na-ah! I’m totally not a real racist. I’m just acting!” to the camera.Based beyond belief.
>>25266979It's almost like a Greek tragedy in a really stupid way.
>>25267000Details on these races?
>>25266981He’s too autistic. He even saw that people could normally discuss a different eastern WNs but still couldn’t figure it out.
>>25266981Where is this place you're talking about exactly?Is this place western only? If eastern is allowed, there's no reason why RI shouldn't be, whether you like it or not.
>>25267025Do you have the capability to discuss it normally then, RI-kun?
>>25267042Do you have the capability to ignore things you don't like instead of them living rent free in your head 24/7?
>>25266954I also like RI.
>>25267045I do. That’s why it’d be great if you don’t go all shill mode and sperg out when someone talks about anything that could be tangentially related to RI. I hope you don’t disappoint me and sperg out again, RI-kun. I have high hopes for you.
>>25267025the point isn't whether or not what you're doing is allowed. again, I ask whyit isn't that you aren't allowed, it's that you aren't welcome. it's an arbitrary thing that the people here don't like you, and because of how you behave, by extension have come to dislike RI by associationwhy not go to where people want to talk to you and want to listen to you? why choose here over anywhere else? think of the hundreds of posts you've made shilling to people who have zero interest in listening to you. you could've made friends, built community, hell, you post so fucking often that you probably could've written your own RI fanfic which apparently has its own healthy scene you could joinagain. why here?
hi guys what's going on in this thread OH never mind bye
>>25267057rifag is getting an intervention it’s pretty entertaining bro
>>25267056Nice cover for your webnevel. Is the black guy the MC? What's his cheap powah
>>25267068Obviously striking people with lightning by telling them to kill themselves.
>>25266979It's a false flag. In the last couple of threads somebody got butthurt about something possibly related to RI and they started posting nonsense like FY hooking up with Bai ning bing, gay stuff etc. It's hilarious desu
Those ai dungeon crawler games advertised on reddit are better than webnovels
>>25266744>Does RoyalRoad allow foot fetish contentMake sure to signal it in the cover like every femMC on RS right now
>>25263868Why is that customer such a chad and the MC such a loser? I'd rather read the customer's story.
>>25267076lmaois there some cabal agenda going on. I'm pretty sure the princess one had a totally different cover a few days ago
>>25267081They just know that feMC gooners are degenerate beta losers and bait them with femdom fetish shit, it's called knowing your market.
>>25267081>I'm pretty sure the princess one had a totally different cover a few days agoThat's the fucking thing. They all did. Everything single one had covers without the foot shit and they all switched to it over the last couple days. I deeply wish I was schizophrenic enough to think of tracking the changes on a spreadsheet or something. It all feels too close together to just be organically copying each other, but wtf do I know
>>25267081>>25267094feet are sexy, simple ast. non foot fetishist
>>25267076>>25267094>the collective consciousness seized the minds of sloppers all at once forcing them into footfaggotryfootGAWDS... I kneel
>>25267093Kind of based, it's something Fang Yuan would do.
>>25263868Why did it switch to first person at the very end
>>25267093top right is male mc
>>252669027 years of this behavior. /sffg/ is a shithole too because there's a guy who has been doing the same spam shit for 10 years./vg/ is just lol
>>25267081Princess one is a commission, was probably lined up for awhile
>>25267159the princess cover is sick desutbh
>>25266941>bringing up RIRI has been spammed here since the general was first created.
>>25266820Bobobo-Bo-Bobobo but with a focus on feet instead of hair.Trust me. The only difference between gag comedy and fetish porn is how hard it gets you.
>>25267164Because you began spamming in /sffg/ then migrated over here.
>>25267170RI is a webnovel.
>>25267170what? I'm replying to the RI-lover.He's accusing RoTC of being the reason RI is spammed when it's obviously been spammed for a long time.
>>25267162>human art is the coolestAIbros, our transhumanist agenda... humanity was supposed to give up...
>stumble across a story called cradles of gravity since its in my genre>nearly same age as mine>700 followers/200favs>mfwman why do I even bother haha..
>>25267193Be honest with yourself: which first chapter is better?
>>25267193Holy booba>man why do I even botherAuthor clearly put his love of amazonian women into his writing. Gotta have passion for your work.
>>25267193Not only what >>25267198 said, but is it more enticing? Does it have a punchy blurb, a good cover? Did they do shoutout swaps? What about ads? Did you do any? Look at what they did differently and learn.
>>25267193>relaunch so the story has proportionally better analytics for its chapter count and age from reader carry over>has 4 other fics>1k forum postson one hand this guy is clearly very invested both time and effort wiseon the other hand holy fuck that cover
>>25267198his
>>25267207>hoovesdropped
>>25267210So there you go. Good first chapter is everything, and it falls off logarithmically from there. 2nd chapter matters a third as much, the 3th chapter a ninth as much, and so on.It's not enough to have 20k words written at launch, you should really spend that same amount of time AGAIN polishing your first chapter to be as engaging and entertaining as possible.
>>25267094Foot fetish is what people pay commissions for the most so it would naturally attract patrons to start writinf about feet
>>25267222>just polish a first chapter foreverdid a new gateway to hell open upthis kind of rhetoric is pure poison for writers
>>25267207>hoovesdropping on my knees for horse daddy
>>25267225YOU should work on reading comprehension, first.>foreverI didn't say that, I said the same amount of time. If it takes you a month to write the first 20k words, you should spend about a month really polishing your first chapter. If it more reasonably takes you ten days, spend ten days revising. Then go ahead and launch.>poison for writersNew writers, mainly. But there's no helping a new writer who would get sidetracked from writing anyway. They lack gumption and grit. There's no such thing as ideal conditions.
>>25267207Do webnovel readers and litrpg readers have no discernment for AI?How much of the text they are addicted to are the engagement mechanics of LLMs?
>>25267207>>25267215Imagine being the guy who cleans those hooves.
>>25267235uuooohhhh glue erotic!!!!!
>>25267225This isnt literature, its genreslop meant to profit off the attention of people who are dead inside from late stage capitalism.They need the stimulation hook in chp1 and from there, their socialization will kick in and they form an identity around what they read
>>25267231That's a woman you faggot. Isn't it funny how every gay erotica on RR is about the subs fantasies?
>>25267238that's sad :(I don't like the goycattle dehumanization world order
>>25267242Internet relationships are parasocialSince you are here, you are probably a, or at least a potential, author>Do you want to be the one who feeds off the audience or do you want you audience to own you?As the producer of the content you have the privilege of choosing which direction the valve goes.The people want frictionless cliched prose that reads itself because they need to turn their brains off without instigating the default mode network
>Post chapter on Twitter>Get a like on it from account that seems to be a writer>Every tweet is in incoherent, alien garble I cannot determine the linguistic origins ofI initially thought they were an Indonesian but I don't think these letters are in their language.
>>25267262vietnamese?toss it into grok and ask what language it is
>>25267266I looked into it and it's part of some webnovel project where he's trying to translate his setting into as many languages as possible. It looks like schizokino but I really don't have the energy to even try to read it.https://endlessmyth2.wordpress.com/
>>25267266> toss it into grokso not just ask ai, but ask the worst ai?! genius.
>>25267271it doesn't matter, a pattern-noticing machine will tell you what language it is if any real one
>>25267260nay! I reject your world order!I will write with love and joy! the people will have no choice but to share in my happiness and delight!
>>25267269I believe the inverse, its like the book of Daniel when days got shorter. The wave function is collapsing and reality is having errors, thag is why the govt is making up this alien grift based on Aleister Crowleys grifts from the Voctorian era
Bake breadBaKE BreadBread nowMake me BreadMAKE THE DANG BREAD
>>25267289>page 3nyo>cuckshit ew
>>25267289We always bake on page 10, Newcutie, lit is a slow board
>>25267293Daaaadd. When you are dismissive and call me with diminutives like that it turns me on so much
>starving street rat FeMC>behaves like a normal bratty teenwhat's the point of making your character have a different background if you're not gonna write the story with it in mind...
>>25267311>bratty teensounds like they tried. they just did a shit job
>>25267311Have you ever watched porn?Do you have a specific kind of... something that you like to see in porn? Maybe an action? Or a detached camera angle that isnt possible to actually see during real sex?Only the surface matters. Perception shapes reality so all you really need is an outfit. Did you expect the authors to pour their hearts and chop up their soul and transmute it for a webnovel?
>>25267320The point is, all it takes for someone to watch your porn is a thumbnail that fulfills their interest, a title that fulfills their interest, and the synopsis blurb is the low framerate preview that may or may not have audio.You were lured in by porn.
>>25267320>>25267324Maybe RIfag was right about femc readers being porn addicts.
>random porn diatribe what is this guy going on about
All web novels and lit rpgs are self indulgent porneia-- low to no literary value from the entire genre.You cant come in as a reader and expect anything but slop
>>25267337hey buddy, you're in the wrong thread/wg/ is two threads down
>>25267337the modern retard's food analogy
>>25267239True, we need some more femboy love interest stories
>>25267330I am not RIfag and I like RI.
>>25267343As you refresh your FEED on 4channel and RoyalRoad. You are the goycattle.
>>25267344I meant more like I want to see more stories where the reader doesnt attach and internalize the PoV of the sub. The object is always the dom
>>25267344You could write them
>>25267349>seethes about the behavior he instigatesjust like my pornos where they punish the criminal with sex
>>25267354How do you achieve that?
>>25267363I'd listen to that audiobook
>>25267368By taking the plot from a romance novel of a twink chasing a daddy and then inverting the perspective to the predatory daddy chasing the twink
>thread moves away from discussing eastern-slops>immediately devolves into literary psued elitist posturing and aggressive homosexSasuga west-kuns
>>25267455I don't know how you can culture war post while aligning yourself with an utter retardalso isn't the guy pseud posting anti western slop and slop in generalthis brave culture warrior seems lost and confused
>>25267476>culture warwhat part of >>25267238 is culture war?>also isn't the guy pseud posting anti western slop Eastern slop is even more trope heavy than western slop and even more blatantly made for consumption
I'm losing my mind right now.Is "feathering apart" (meaning to take apart piece by piece) an expression or not? I could swear I read it several times while I was younger.
>>25267500If only there was a computer program that could search all human text ever written and find examples of that phrase you went out of your way to type into the comment box on 4cha.org and fill out a captcha to submit.Damn whoever made that would be like the second and/or fourth richest guy in the world I bet.
>>25267505Google is completely goddamn useless in answering that. Or really anything these days. Hence my asking.
>>25267512They meant ai.I asked one for you. It's not a standard idiom but it does appear in culinary writing and genre fiction.
>>25267491People dont want to know how bad things really are.If we are to discuss how to make good webnevels then let's not use soft language about the fact that we are hypnotizing our readers with inductions and then using recognizable tropes that start a dopamine drip as the reader anticipates and predicts what happens next
>>25267531If you're worried about that genreslop is the least your problems. You should maybe focus on the stuff you've been eating for the past century.
>>25267500I saw the figure of Yog-Sothoth and my mind feathered apart at its non-euclidean geometryIdk, write a few paragraphs about a psychotic break after seeing lovecraftian horror that uses the phrase Be sure to include whatever your specific kink is
>>25267515No I literally meant google, you can find in text examples of it being used. Ever heard of Google Books?Yes the LLM also can produce a result about the phrase but you can also use the search engine's original form.
>>25267535We were warned about the food and water poisoningWe just got used to poisonThese days I am animated by consuming the souls of the departed
>>25267515hard to believe that people exist who think AI can actually be relied on for real information
SEE YA NERDS, I'M OFF TO THE BIG LEAGUES NOW
winnies for this feel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0CEyRFYYfQ
>>25267545Reality is a suggestion that insists upon itself.
is this one worth reading?
>>25267557>Why did you overdose on Ketamine>Reality insists upon itself >ACK
>>25267573looks gay and heretical
>>25267573Looks gay and heretical (good)
>>25267573nice prompt engineering
>>25267593Oh, please go on about how you do not want to read a web novel about a catholic girl who discovers a satanic coven at her boarding school and all the anal sex she endures from the monsignor
>>25265971>The Undead King of the Palace of Darkness did that and it worked great. (It worked so great that the story became aimless after the first volume. Undead MC (unless there's some established Twilight-esque vampire society) suffers from the same problem as "I reincarnated as a vending machine." Eventually the comedic novelty loses its luster and now you're stuck with a character that doesn't have the option to have human desires. Ie he's not gonna go retire at a sunny beach where all the women wear skimpy bikinis while he sips from a drink with little umbrellas in it. That's just not an option for monstrously inhuman characters.
>>25267500It doesn't matter, just make it an expression.
>>25267500if i read "feathering apart" in a piece of writing i'd interpret it as being splayed out like a folding hand fan, like peacock feathers
>>25267690I would interpret it as gently pulling something apart (like feathering input).
>>25267701okay :) you are entitled to your opinion :)
>>25267672I think webnovels are a good medium for zany unconventional ideasWhat incentive does an authority have to end a series when it should? Even if it turns to shit, if it still brings in some money in these difficult to strive times then they ought to toss pride aside-- it ain't like anyone anywhere has integrity left
>>25267757>What if: gay homodamn what a stunning idea...
>>25267552Nice :D
>>25267777You may be unwilling to accept it but big titty goth girls would read your books if you wrote about Crowley and his obsession with butt sex demons
>>25267553Gate
>>25267793>guy created an entire cult religion just to justify all the gay sex he wanted to have
>>25267797ughi mean you're rightbut ugh
>>25267806ughi mean you're rightbut ughAt least he didnt pull a Gerald Gardner and give fat women an excuse to trance naked in the moonlight of forrests
>>25267205going to read this just for the elves desu
>>25267205>polyandry tagInto the trash it goes
>>25267938BASED anti-cuckchad
>>25267337>low to no literary value from the entire genre.Literary value is irrelevant anyway
>>25267938What does it say about society that we use effectively a borrowed tagging system that started on Japanese image board porn sites that archived media to tag genres of porn (and eventually the tags just became the titles of the videos *stepdaughter forced oral ass to mouth*) and then it became how we tag the tropes that we need to stimulate us in books and you could even say that video games are under Japanese tagging systems for addictive game mechanicsIt feels like the media we create is about chasing a high and not about whatever the artist-- nay, we have no artists nor auteurs anymore-- content creators were attempting to convey to the audi ants
>>25267945>What does it say about society that we use effectively a borrowed tagging system that started on Japanese image board porn sitesTagging started in book lists publishers would give to book stores to give them some idea of what they'd be ordering.That's literally why some tags we use today, such as shounen or YA, refer to the commercial target audience of a work.Whoever told you porn sites invented tagging is a fucking idiot.
>>25267983"everything is porn" seems to be a new resident idiot
>>25267983Im unsure if it is worth the endeavor to explain it to you but tagging and genre are not the same and tagging exists because of hentai. You dont get a shooter game, you get a looter shooter because you want to see ejaculations of loot after you use a phallic extension to rattle them.One does not play an arcade game, one plays an intermittently rewarding slot machine.One does not order a romance book, pne orders chems as letters as words as sentences they activate dopamine, oxytocin, cortisol, and serotonin based on evolutionary social cues written into the story combined with recognizable tropes that give comfort.I do urge you to learn the Japanese hentai tagging history so you can see for yourself that genres no longer exist. Even YouTube changed its template to look like tube internet porn sites.
>the casualry and their "School of Resentment">ick
>>25267999>tagging and genre are not the sameNo, no, they literally are.
>>25268007Wrong
>>25267999>>25268007At least insofar as labeling genre as a means to indicate to a potential audience member what a piece of media might be like as opposed to for academic or critical purposes.All genres can be tags. Debatably all tags can be considered genres too, but I digress.Also this should be blindingly fucking obvious to anyone who has paid attention to the genre sections of media sites over time and seen new genres be added that used to be in the general tags section.>>25268009No.
>>25268017That is a submissive contrivence when the argument is that we have left behind genres to adopt hyperspecific tags that originated from mental websites.People will get addicted to a video game simply because they enjoy the dissociative fuckbot mechanics of pressing buttons to get pleasurable vibrations and visual stimulus of a jump and slide combo. Jump slides amd grapple hooks are game selling tags. No one buys a game because its a shooter
>>25268017Wrong
>>25268120No.
>caring what the hoi polloi are up to in terms of media consumption habitsUnironically stop. Seriously. This is dangerously democracy and egalitarian-brained.Not a single person in this thread has read everything they've noted to read later. Not a single person in this thread has read every classic webnovel, let alone every literary classic. That people are using tags now doesn't actually imply anything meaningful. Because the idea that it does itself implies that other people matter, and they don't.
I'm tired of every webslop being a subversion. Everything's a twist on something else. Just write some good sincere slop.
so i tried rtoc and it only got good after like 20 chapters. but after that its good. i can still consume slop it seems, it was only RI that was extra painful for me
>>25267505I have 4chan premium, no need for captchas
>>25268501>pay piggy since 2019
Is there a sub- genre term for a LITRPG setting/setup that is about the universe being a simulation (not a game) and the protagonists being able to "see" the hidden code (LITRPG system)System Apocalypse doesn't quite fit because the system has always been there
>>25268584That's far too niche to be a sub-genre. There are series about earth/the universe being a simulation (though as you said most are about it being a game) but as for the Matrix-ripoff "see the hidden code" element I can't think of any.
>>25268584>is about the universe being a simulation (not a game) and the protagonists being able to "see" the hidden code (LITRPG system)Infinite Realm kind-of sort-of does this. The 'world/simulation' is ran by "The Three" and IIRC when Infinite Realm takes place, they're actually on the fifth incarnation of it or something. Been a while since I read it. The most major villain is actually a yeti dude from the previous Realm who uses a completely different magic system.
>>25268323>Just write some good sincere slop.like what?
>>25268040>No one buys a game because its a shooterShooter is already more specific than most conventional genres, and video game genres get much more specific than that. Action is a genre that contains shooter is a genre that contains TPS is a genre that contains shmup is a genre that contains bullet hell is a genre...At what point does it stop being a genre and start being a tag? The answer is fucking never. Genres and tags are not separate concepts.
