Unbanned EditionStubbed >>25269232>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>Advice for Noobs!##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##Running your story like the business it is:www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847On writing web serials:alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLYRecommended web novelsrentry.co/d2yvczroAnon's guide to successrentry.co/RRBasicGuideFAQrentry.co/pytefpxn
read Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi it's peak
>>25277030I wish the fmc discord would stop raiding and stalking these threadsIf you're from that discord please screenshot and share this post I wanna be famous
>>25277073If you wanna get famous then just write, dog.
Weekly chapter reviewPale Lights (patreon) : welp , more students getting 'Unluckied'. Nice character development for Izel. 9/10The Years of Apocalypse (patreon) : I did have a suspicion that the war was just the beginning and it would be the easy part. I liked the pov changes. 9/10100 Reigns (patreon) : Reign ended. Fucking brutal boss fight , the writer is always good at those. 8/10 , only because Louis deaths are getting old. Player 0.4 : Finaly a main realm chapter. Nothing much happening, meh. 6.5/10Apocalypse Reborn : End of volume. Nothing much happened in this volume , kind of a waste. 5/10.Attorney to the Villainess : Nice chapters plot-wise but almost zero villainess shenanigans. 7/10Timelooping Moronmagus : a bit of a padding chapter. 6/10On trialMetaworld Hopecore : yet another doing moving away from the premice after the first dropped chapters. Hopecore is forgoten. We now have teen drama angst ,some very narrow focused 00s nostalgia and revenge plots. Well written. 6/10
>>25277073you are giving the autistic troll too much credit.
>>25277073>fmc discord>its all men
When is the next chapter of Reverend Insanity coming out?
>>25277073>fmc discordis this real or just more mental illness
>>25277124I know there is a villainess discord (not purely webnovel focused and i don't think tney care about us) , i don't know about just plain fmc.
>want to read levelling system slop>every time I open something I close it after five chapters because it sucksWell, fuck.
Read more RTOC, although now I’ve slowed down quite a bit from my initial pace. At chapter 155.Being captured by the Mad Lord and put into a puppet was a weird arc. I expected him to be far more affected by this than he was, especially given how many years passed.I’m now in the arc where he’s learning with the Azure sect, and parts of it seem a bit repetitive. More interested in what’s going on plot wise, for questions like the heart tribe and so on.Posting again after deleting the last one because I fucked up the spoiler.
Oh wow, I seem to have fucked up the spoilers again. But this time it’s not as bad so I’ll leave it up.
I categorically refuse to write any sort of FeMC unless she's a submissive slut who only likes the gross kinks and fetishes that I do. No exceptions.
>>25277157>I categorically refuse to writeftfyand also read
>>25277157
>>25277073Can someone share an invite code for this discord?
>>25277118It's already out in Chinese, translation will be coming in the next couple of days according to the discordThe title of the chapter is Hei Lou Lan's Grand Tribulation (1/3)
>>25277118>>25277188Fuck man, now this general is only going to be filled with RI faggots. I'll be back when the RI author get's black bagged by the CCP.
at least RI fags read
>>25277219A few hundred 4chan posts isn't reading.
>fmc discord meltiesRUH ROH!
Anyone here willing to rec me some decent Chinese web novels? I wanna learn the language through web novels but the amount of slop I’ve had to sift through is disheartening. Western fantasy (Qihuan) appreciated!
mods should start deleting this thread again at this point
>>25277219/wng/ who read don't write/wng/ who write don't read
Wake up. Wait for Semi-Coercive Imperialist to update. Enjoy five minutes of anime Hitler aura farming, before going back to waiting a day or two for the next chapter.It’s The Villain wants to Live all over again.
This morning I thought about it and came to a decision. I will make a concerted effort to comment on every chapter I read and I will say something more than tyftc. I've seen authors complain about a lack of genuine engagement and I've felt the loneliness of not having anyone to discuss these stories with. I will be the change I want to see in the world. Join me anons, do your part.
>>25277435Nobody deserves my pre-coffee morning bitching.
>>25277435>comment on every chapterwtf? do you know how much work that is?this would seriously decrease my chapters/minute. unacceptable!
>>25277435Everyone who does this deserves a life of milk and honey. It's not that I don't appreciate being thanked for something, I'm not ungrateful, I just like when people have something to say because then I can actually use that feedback to improve. Everyone wants something they enjoy reading, and commentary can help make that happen!
>>25277435as much as I would like to do this, most work is mid and doesn't deserve any more than a TFTC, because I was taught if I have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. so I say thanks, which is nice
>>25277138>>25277307>>25277419>>25277435read RI, it’s peak
>>25277439modern day fantasyinstead of spinach like popeye, MC chugs coffee to gain tweaker powers
>join my discord!>6 membersNo, I will not single myself out like that.
>>25277435I wish I could do this without being a negative nancy
>>25277435I wish there was a chapter I could bring myself to read to the end. It's all the same slop
>>25277678My discord has like 150 members.And around 5-7 active ones.Lmao.
i only read male mc yuri
>>25277394/wng/ does both read and writeThe thread gets super slow when anons are doing that and picks up as anons finish their chappies
>>25277731huh?
>>25277124It's real but they usually call it the trans rights discord
Why have none of the big streaming sites made a TV adaptation of Worm yet? After The Boys and Invincible it seems to be the most viable series to create a franchise from no? The sheer amount of fanfiction it spawned is proof enough of how well it would do
>>25277970Worm doesn't have enough quips, manchildren wouldn't like it. Worm is super hero fiction for intellectuals
>>25277822i only read stories where the main character is a male and there are girls that kiss each other.
>>25277874imagine being such a subhuman brainlet that you automatically self-insert into everything and so feel sperg rage at fmc because it feels like being called a troon to you
>>25277970Wildbow has said he has no interest in an adaptation, I think he's lost interest in the entire series desu and moved on.
>>25277993femc troon melty
>>25277998If he doesn't value it anymore that's even more reason to sell if off to get raped. Cash out and live a comfy life doing what you want like writing poetry or whatever he's into these days.>>25277977Can be rewritten with quips by studio writers
i would never read a novel where there is a female main character, ESPECIALLY one written in first person, because I might start envisioning myself as a girl. which would cause me to masturbate.
Wildbow is already living comfy.You see he still makes about 4.5k a month on Patreon without doing updates for a decade.
>>25277970Initial reason: Everyone who pitched it was retarded and terrible about it, with ridiculous demands like having a bully character call Taylor a worm early on.Final reason: Wildbow has moved on and isn't interested anymore.
>>25278033>having a bully character call Taylor a worm early on.Screenwriters are deranged.Reminds me of the "all along the watchtower" bullshit from Battlestar Galactica
>>25277605Maybe it’s actually peak, but I’l never read it because of you.
>>25277713Then don't read slop.
We're in motion, gents. I'm impressed a skeb artist was chill with commercial rights being requested.
>>25278053hell yeah
>>25278047...and they have a plan.They didn't have a plan.
>>25277394I do both and can talk about neither here>talk about my writing>get doxxed, raided, reviewbombed, harassed forever>talk about my reading>trolls raid and harass those authors all the sameAt most I talk about only the most famous stories who won't be bothered by some minor troll or a handful of 0.5 star ratings. Beware of Chicken, BTDEM, 1% Lifesteal, etc.
Royal Road's best cover
>>252780154.5k a month pre taxes is not comfy in the us/canada
>>25278153Aside from one anon that likes to come in and say he gives one stars, which may just be a joke really, I don't see any vitriol toward writers that pop in every now and then. Just don't be an attention whore, spamming twat, and everyone gets along (Harder for some than others).>>25278222Maybe if you live in a soul crushing metropolis. Can't say anything in regards to Canada, but 4.5k is good living in most small to medium citys in America.
>>25277998>I think he's lost interest in the entire series desu and moved on.i don't blame him. if i had gone from writing worm to writing ward, i also would want to move on with my life and never touch that setting again. he seems to be doing much better with his other work, no reason to drag him back into it.
>>25278222I'm super comfy on less than that in the USA. It depends on where you live, your spending habits, and whether or not you have dependents. The effective tax rate on that is about 8.5%, or $4,500 for the year (not including FICA).Still, just under $4k a month is enough to cover rent, food, and transportation costs for most people. Not having to work for it is priceless.
Worm peaked between the first Endbringer attack and the slaughterhouse 9 arc. Anything before or after that was bad.
>>25278245iirc he wrote a few books between Worm and Ward. It was the bad response to Ward that put him off the series and the fanbase in general so he never wants to go back to it.
How do we make xianxia great again
>>25278247>The effective tax rate on that is about 8.5%, or $4,500 for the year (not including FICA).Lol what? If you're self employed expect at least 25% to disappear. The fuck you mean 8.5%
>>25278255The final Gold Morning arc is fantastic and a miracle it was so good after the weaker arcs before it. It's the perfect example of an ending saving a series from its flaws.
>>25278259It was never great.
Best girlpenis storylines?
>>25278259>How do we make xianxia great againLess rape victims become lovers and more taking the piss. At some point the genre became too overly serious despite its most famous works being farces.>>25278268Rebirth of the Nephilim
>>25278260Oh never mind, you're right. I forgot about the self-employment tax (which covers for social security and medicare). So in total it's closer to 12k in taxes on 54k in income. You're right on the money. So it's more like $3k/month after taxes.(Taxes are evil)
I fought cringe and tried writing a first chapter of a romcom story. please tell if this is good enough and if this made you want to read more https://privatebin.net/?296e53f8754e4944#BDQwdYu5fMhQbqcs4MvinjB9zbQ5kH2JmJHKS4jWfFab
>>25278306i'm also esl if it wasnt clear enough so hoping for basic writing advice too
>>25278247>>25278247I actually worked in taxes for a few years and had to at one point hand-calculate people's business income taxes, tracking their tax liability for both Canada and the United States. Let's actually take a look here.$4500 flat per month is $54,000 per year. To note, I live on about $45k a year and I live in an expensive state (Massachusetts). That's besides the point. The main thing is that yearly figure, that's Wildbow's AGI.Let's assume this is US dollars as that's how Patreon lists them. Conversion wouldn't matter too much due to commutative property. I am using 2026 tax values for both countries.I'm starting with Canadian taxes first, assuming he didn't move to say, Texas or something to save money. That means he'd still be living in a small Ontario town where there was only one woman aged 25-35 within 100km of him.The BPA this year was $16,452. That means the remaining $37,548 is taxable, all within the Federal bracket of 14% and the Provincial bracket of 5.05%.His after tax income is $30,395.11. A 1br unit in Hornepayne, Ontario (Which fits the description) is about $1200/mo with utilities included (Very small town, low value property). That's $14,400 in housing costs. That leaves him with a loose $15,995.11 to cover everything else. That's not bad desu. I've lived on less.Now for US taxes, which are even more lenient. Again, we'll say Texas or if prefers a Canadian climate, Washington, so no income tax. In turn, however, we won't itemize any expenses (Not like he needs any for his job).$54000Standard deduction: $16,100Remaining: $37,900Tax brackets:10%: $1,240Remaining (Taxable, not taxed yet): $25,50012%: $3,060Remaining (Taxable, not taxed yet): $22,440FICA: 15.3%Remaining: $3,433.32Overall Tax Liability: 7733.32After tax amount: $46,266.68At $46.2k post taxes, he's got options. Rent for his apartment if we go with Washington (the more expensive option) is $1,829/mo or $21,948/yr, which leaves him $24,318.68 for any other spending in the year. Also very livable. Especially since, due to his disability, he likely gets welfare. And if he went to Texas, that's a 30% increase in available cash.tl;dr "Muh taxes" isn't a valid argument, lrn2bracket. Wildbow's likely in a very comfy position.
>>25278330Oops, small snag. FICA is AGI-based and is not post-deduction. So the 15.3% would be on the 54000 for a total of $8262, or an approximately $4828.68 increase in liability. That means his budget is $41,438 per year, and after rent leaves him with about ~$19k in spendable cash.Again, I've lived off of worse, it's not bad.
What are gu??
>>25278306The opening dialog sequence confused me as to who was talking. When you break the dialog apart like that with two participants it's expected that each break in dialog is a switch of who's talking. But it looks like you break one of them up and I got confused and thought Hinami was saying her own name at the end. Had to go back and try to sus out what was actually happening.Actually made me do a double take and kek on the zoom out of the manga. I liked it.About the manga itself: the prose says he turned a page which makes me think he's holding a physical book. But the hiatus message reads like something from a webnovel so that confused me. (Not too familiar with how mangas work so maybe that's a me problem.)I liked MC's internal monologue. Fun and energetic.It looks like you start putting a single sentence on each line for some reason? Kinda messed up the flow. Put some of those together.Overall I enjoyed it. Not my usual cup of tea but I'd probably try a few more chapters to see if I like it enough to stick with it. I assume he's getting isekaied into the story he was reading? Could see some fun shenanigans just from what you set up already.