Would anyone be interested in a story about a NEET going into dangerous places full of things that will kill you to stuff his backpack full of valuable loot against the government's wishes and laws?

Not an isekai (per se), not a litRPG, not a harem. Just a guy with rent to pay, apartment full of military weapons and controlled chemicals, and no real direction in life or a reason to live beyond seeing another day.

Reposting because I took the worst moment to ask this.

>>25341577
>anyone
sure
not me tho

>>25341577
1. That's not a NEET. That's a self-employed person
2. You're describing Roadside Picnic, one of the most famous works of literature on earth.

>>25341574
>and maybe
Well, if you'd be so inclined, https://www.honeyfeed.fm/novels/30962

Mostly looking for early suggestions and probing for premise interest.
I think my story was pretty badly mogged by others. Not sure if it's due to the tenses thing, the narrative style, or if honeysneed is simply the wrong audience for this kind of thing, but I thought /lit/ might at least give some semi-honest feedback.

Or Occam's razor and the story is just mediocre at best. I have a little more, but holding off with publishing more chapters before I lose or win.
>>25341598
Understandable.
>>25341614
>1. That's not a NEET. That's a self-employed person
Well, technically, so are drug dealers, but I doubt you can list that on any CV.
>2. You're describing Roadside Picnic, one of the most famous works of literature on earth.
Well, no, I was describing my own story, but I don't blame you if you saw it that way without squinting.

>>25341614
>idea can be reduced and compared to another idea
this applies to everything
>>25341577
sure, if it were written well. eastern euros love Roadside Picnic/Stalker derivatives and they're an active reader base of webnovels

>>25341630
>if it were written well
Your mileage may vary.

>>25341617
>Well, technically, so are drug dealers, but I doubt you can list that on any CV.
What you can list on a CV isn't related to what makes someone a NEET.
>Well, no
M8, telling someone they are describing something they are not literally describing is a way of indicating their description overlaps with something else. Often this is done as a comedic way of pointing out a thing exists when it was not thought to exist.

>>25341647
>NEET
>not in education, employment, or training
NEET and hikkimori aren't the same
you can be a NEET with an income

>>25341659
It's down to semantics and whether or not "criminal" is a job description.

>>25341577
I have lost interest in everything since aislop took over. I assume everything is made with ai now.

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>>25341674
I am mildly happy to inform you that no robots were involved in writing it.

>>25341672
implying that drug dealers are employed is funny as fuck
there is a NEET gray zone where they have a taxable income stream but aren't employed by a company i.e doujin artists

>>25341577
yes i would read your STALKER novel

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>>25341712
I am happy to hear that, anon. The link is up a few posts.
Looking forward to hearing
>it's shit
If only you bother to add a few words on why it is so.

>>25341718
ugh fuck you had to call me out
ok i will finish writing this chapter and read yours

>>25341589
>Reddit Player One

>>25341577
Sounds a bit bland honestly. What else is going on in this story? Any mysteries, progression, interesting characters, etc?

>>25341745
>Any mysteries, progression, interesting characters, etc?
It is a mystery.

Jokes aside, I intentionally sold the premise short because I don't want to spoil the entire story.
Of course there is "progression" in the sense that the MC develops and "progresses" his equipment and tactics, but his goal is not to senselessly risk death for no reason.
I guess the thematic spoiler would be his goal is to sensefully risk death for a GOOD reason.

Is there a dedicated writing discord for my people, the degenerates?

>>25341808
You have entire sites.

>>25341808
I don't know what you mean exactly by degenerate but there's Erotically Inclined and Erotica Abyss. Those are very wide. For more male audience/weeb specific stuff probably the r/haremlit discord could point you to other ones or get into the discords for indie visual novel like DevTalk or Lemma Soft which hav nsfw sections.

>>25341617
I think it's more the fact that you wrote it for the monthly one shot. People aren't as enthusiastic about those as the full novella contests. That, and Honeyfeed is more geared towards the weeb and LN audience.
This is all without actually reading what you wrote tbf, so take it with a grain of salt.

>>25341577
I am all for keeping my loot out of the taxfags' grubby claws but I don't care about modern weaponry and I would much rather have a fantasy harem than the absolute nothing you seem to offer.

>>25341928
>I think it's more the fact that you wrote it for the monthly one shot
I was quite directly comparing my story to others in the contest, though I'm not sure how to actually gauge success against failure. I imagine high views but low chapter reads means people don't care. In that aspect, I guess my story is not doing too bad?

I fully intend to continue it after the contest, though I'm not sure when. I'm very busy with Slop King and I don't want to sacrifice Slop King time for what is essentially a side project started out of stress overload.

That being said, including the contest chapter, which I believe is self-contained and stand-alone as far as the contest is concerned, I have 4(4.5) more chapters so far. I could drop them somewhere as a preview, provided anyone at all here is actually interested.

>>25341934
Main character actually has a kind-hearted cop and a teenage girl who might be strongly on the spectrum orbit him. If you really want to fight over it.

>>25341936
Not too kind-hearted to shoot joggers, I hope.

>>25341936
Sounds like garbage.

>>25341988
I'm curious to know why, anon.

Alright, which one of you wangers made the /v/ thread?

>>25342083
what?

show me your litrpg spreadsheet which you use to track your stats etc
been looking, found just a few so far

>>25342094
Are you too daft to check if there is a wng-related thread on /v/?
I assume he means this one since it has the Dungeon Cuckold Carl image. >>>/v/741080426

>>25342098
I went and searched for "wn" and "web novel" and nothing came up.
But it's probably just some normalfag since they're using the Amazon book cover. DCC flopped as an actual web novel.

>>25342098
there's enough webnovel related concepts that trying to filter through everything is a nightmare
>high traffic thread
the idea of writing for /v/ermin sickens me. why must our readers be these types

>>25342102
>DCC flopped as an actual web novel.
How the fuck do you flop as a WN only to get bunch of adaptations?

>>25342102
>>25342106
Fair enough, I just opened /v/ and it was on the top of the catalog so I didn't even have to think of terms to search.

>>25342115
tradpub and webnovels have different values

How the fuck do webnovelist write and edit so fucking fast?

It takes me months to write and edit a 10k word story.
Yet they are able to blast out finished chapters daily.

>>25342102
DCC guy recommends using KU (Kindle Unlimited).
>>22234648

>>25341993
>a kind-hearted cop
>and a teenage girl
>who might be strongly on the spectrum
>orbit him.
For what reason would characters like these exist in your story? In any story?

>>25342216
for what reason do any characters exist

>>25342206
There are a couple of things I do.
>I have an outline and bulletpoints of events I want to hit every chapter that I update as I go for arcs and sub-arcs
>I write stream of consciousness for 3-4 hours a day, not even worrying about typos, bad word choice or prose, purely get the first draft completed as fast as possible while having momentum in your creativity, drive and dynamic world modeling in your head, the trick is to not separate the thinking through and writing into two separate tasks
>I straight up copy my raw braindump text into AI, tell it to fix my spelling and grammar mistakes and to make it match the general style of my previous chapters
>I do 30--60 minutes of proofreading and editing but AI is good enough and my braindump is complete enough that it creates a very good flow indistinguishable from my previous chapters

I can finish high quaity chapters very fast like this. You need to realize that you're a storyteller and writing is merely a barrier to get the reader to experience what you have in your mind, so get what you have in your mind as rapidly to the page as possible, don't overthink things, this isn't literature. They want to experience the autistic anime scene you conjured up in your head, not read the prose of charles dickens.

>>25342216
Do you want me to spoil the entire thing, or something?

>>25342206
I write 2500 words daily at the minimum, I've got a 4.8 rating on RR. My trick is:
>Write draft
>Do 20 squats (Helps blood sugar, resets your brain)
>Reread draft, check for errors or more questionable decisions
>Edit them out
>Do 20 more squats
>Reread
>Repeat until content

You'd think this would get agonizing but by this point I do maybe 80 squats tops for a chapter.

>>25342291
can I substitute the 20 squats for an orgasm?

>>25342299
lol

I take 2100mg of ashwagandha daily so I like to believe it helps me a lot, and recently I changed from 2 to 1 monitor setup to better laser focus on whatever I'm doing. Sometimes I'll crossfade alcohol with weed when I'm writing or editing. Outlining helps a ton, even a simplistic 1bulletpoint=1sentence per chapter for a general grasp of the story flow but even after launch and writing I didn't ultize it much because I had written 3 versions of the story to that point so it was just writing by the heart and pattern. I had prewriten 50k words for the first act of the story over a ~3 month period, before launch, so it was just a matter of editing it for public release with a few new chapter additions here and there after launch. I don't write/edit daily, but there'll be periods when I do. Right now I'm waiting on my 2nd act volume art before I get back into the grind. My chapters are usually 2k words and some 1k here and there with a few big 6-8k word space fleet battles. I also don't chedule chapters and post them as soon as i'm done with the couple editing passes.

>>25342308
hiromoot ate my quote >>25342206

>>25342299
If it works, go for it.

>>25342299
How fast can you do 20 squats vs an orgasm? Time is money anon.

>>25342351
>>25342340
Can I save time by jorking it while writing?

>>25342370
Talking from experience, no. One hand will dominate the other. You either get so caught up in the wanking that you start writing smuttier, or you get into flow state and forget about masturbating. Don't mix them.

>>25341922
>>doesn't link to his slop
>>wonders why nobody reads it
Doesn't matter; anons here don't actually read.

>>25342461
I listen to TTS versions while at work.

So while I technically don't read many web novels I do listen to a shitload of them.

>>25342461
I'm reading 3 on and off already in between other stuff. I don't have time to read anons amateur works.

>>25342461
When I posted mine I actually got a +30 view bump and a couple ratings and follows. It's not substantial (There's less than like maybe 60 people in these threads) but it's good networking at the least.

>>25342486
TTS is a pretty unique way to experience them.
I mean, my issue with audiobooks is that the narrator has to pick a way to interpret the text, so its meaning actually changes in the delivery. Which is kinda bad, because it diminishes one of the strengths of the medium.
TTS are monotone, so their meaning isn't changed.

>>25342499
>There's less than like maybe 60 people in these threads)
/lit/ is is extremey slow board, I'd say it is closer to 6 than 60

Why is the difference of writing quality in ScribbleHub so vastly different from the quality in RoyalRoad? I've noticed that RoyalRoad mogs both WebNovel and Scribblehub.
There aren't any rules to posting on all three yes? So, why the vast difference? Is it because suggestive themes are allowed?

>>25342503
It's comparable to a couple other boards I use and the variety in posting styles and random argument presences match the generals on those boards.

>>25342507
ScribbleHub is mostly kids doing the writing, RoyalRoad is mostly kids doing the reading.

>>25342507
Because there is serious money in Royal Road. It draws professionals in.
The #1 WN author makes what like the #10 RR does. The #1 SH is like #100 RR.

Do you think tossing in a "If this chapter has you hooked already, please favorite and follow" as a post-chapter note on your first chapter would increase or decrease getting those? My logic being that YouTubers swear up and down that telling viewers at the end of their videos to like and subscribe makes a tangible difference. I can't imagine the average RR reader being much more sophisticated.

>>25341577
nice dubs but i already own a copy of roadside picnic

>>25342529
But do you own Roadside Picnic with cute girls?

>>25342500
I just do it that way because indie webnovels don't have professionally produced audiobooks, and a lot of the fancy AI produced audiobooks are full of errors and glitches because the people who make them never actually double check or edit the outputs. So shit like skipping whole chapters or suddenly interrupting a scene with robotic screeching are all things that happen somewhat regularly with AI audiobooks.
Meanwhile a simple TTS program consistently just works most of the time. I mean it stumbles on things like stat-blocks, "weird formatting", and has a few quarks of it's own, but I am used to such hickups and still able to follow the story.
That said, anime style dialog with tons of stuttering and reaction noises is truly tedious to listen to using TTS.

For example
"b-b-but onichan!"
Gets turned into "be. be. but, [volume increase] ONICHAN!" by the tts.

It's not perfect. It's just good enough to get me through the work day.

>>25342517
>ScribbleHub is mostly kids doing the writing, RoyalRoad is mostly kids doing the reading.
While I do agree with this, but why not both?

>>25342523
Is it because RoyalRoad has and will always be THE webnovel website? I didn't realize the difference was so vast, is it also the viewership and what tends to reach out for both of them?

>>25342537
>While I do agree with this, but why not both?
Because ScribbleHub came after RoyalRoad as a reaction, effectively. Kids go to the newer sites to try and be ahead and it sets a precedent. There's a few others like this cropping up like Fictionry.

>>25342541
>Because ScribbleHub came after RoyalRoad as a reaction
false statement

>>25342528
I'd do it but not on its own.
Throw in some lore explanation, or a "see you on moday" if you release on weekdays only. That sort of thing.
If you foster engagement some of them will engage back which makes the story look alive even to lurkers that never interact or comment.
And don't do this too often, maybe the first batch of chapters you release and then from now only here and there especially on cliffhangers tell them they can read ahead on Patreon.
But ultimately this and covers and blurbs and everything is really just small stuff compared to writing a story that hooks people.

>>25342503
we probably have like 5 western posters and 5 esl posters then a bunch of occasional posters that drift in and out

>>25342528
I would do it, but it's different on youtube. The typical action after finishing a video is to click on the next one. Even videos that users like will often not get a like or subscribe because the user simply forgets. Your situation is a bit different, because if the user reaches your last published chapter their thought isn't "I need another story to read", instead it's "I want more of this story" and they are much more likely to follow you as a result.

This doesn't apply to reviews though. You should frequently remind readers to lead a review and if you want more follows before readers have caught up then you should remind them of that too.

>>25342537
Webnovel is comparably large, there is just far less money for top tier authors because of predatory contracts and such.
Talent follows money. Artists are still human.

>>25342631
A lot of thirdies can't gt on Patreon or use a business Paypal tied to their local bank so Webnovel is the only option even if the contract is horrible.

>>25342551
>false statement
wrong

any web novels with airhead ditzy girls cheering on the mc from the sidelines with unbridled enthusiasm without a thought ever gracing her mind but enjoying the flashing lights and bright colours
like nearly braindead borderline retarded klutzy dumb bimbo going "yippee" and so on

>>25342815
this perfectly describes reverend insanity fans

>>25342818
>RI spammer is a dumb bimbo cheerleader
wew

What are gu?

>>25342868
The benefits that Fang Yuan would do anything for including throw ass.

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>>25342899
fang yuan would've thrown himself into peter thiel's harem so quickly he'd have left afterimages

I have to know China Charlies, why not make your own story? You've read hundreds of thousands of words. You know what works for you and what doesn't. I'm sure you'd make a decent one.

>>25342982
You've seen thousands of people. Why not build your own person?

>>25342986
You think I like people?

>>25342986
>Why not build your own person?
It takes two to tango. Are you offering?

>>25342989
You're talking to people right now, chief.

>>25342990
Unless you've got a womb I think there's some issues with the equipment for that offer.

>>25342982
In youthful arrogance I was working on my own generic homebrew xianxia that was going to play with the standard tropes but in a more western appealing way.
Then from the dark recess of my cave I peered out and saw the blinding light of Sky Pride and became humbled
Only when I have kowtowed ten thousand times before Elder Warby Picus can this junior continue his journey.

>no autistic archmage chapter
this nigger needs to lock in and give me slop according to schedule

>>25342992
Tradpeople is too saturated and pretentious. Webpeople is where it's at.
>>25342993
Understandable Junior, but know this journey has been tread before. A young master much like you formed a sect in the land of /vrpg/ known simply as Aura Clash. Learn the way and you shall surely see Mt. Tai.

>>25342998
Thank you Senior, I will pour over these ancient scrolls in pursuit of my first breakthrough.

Kill archmages. Behead archmages. Roundhouse kick an archmage into the concrete. Slam dunk an archmage baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy archmages. Defecate in an archmages food. Launch archmages into the sun. Stir fry archmages in a wok. Toss archmages into active volcanoes. Urinate into an archmages gas tank. Judo throw archmages into a wood chipper. Twist archmage heads off. Report archmages to the IRS. Karate chop archmages in half. Curb stomp pregnant archmages. Trap archmages in quicksand. Crush archmages in the trash compactor. Liquefy archmages in a vat of acid. Eat archmages. Dissect archmages. Exterminate archmages in the gas chamber. Stomp archmage skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate archmaages in the oven. Lobotomize archmages. Mandatory abortions for archmages. Grind archmage fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown archmages in fried chicken grease. Vaporize archmages with a ray gun. Kick old archmages down the stairs. Feed archmages to alligators. Slice archmages with a katana.

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>>25342982
huh? but I already am...

>>25342982
I don't write even close to fast enough to thrive in this particular niche.

I will stick to my occasional shory stories I write as a hobby on my days off from my two jobs.
Maybe if I retire or magically have enough money dumped in my lap where I don't have to work for a living, I might be able to pick up the pace and write something serialized.

Any stories where worship/gods are treated like stocks on the stock market?

>>25341570
There must be some type of overlap between web novels and people who play map-painting games
But market for it seems very niché.

>>25343089
"This is just like my swedish grand strategy game," Yang Fuan considered.

>>25342997
>an author copying a gimmick runs out of steam not 100 chapters in and betrays his audience
Many such cases

>>25341570
I started putting my stuff on RoyalRoad a couple months ago. I like it. Having people read my stuff and give feedback gives me motivation to keep writing even when I'm not as interested.

>>25343091
my point was the appeal of gsgs is min-maxing. Isn't that the same appeal of LitRpgs?

>>25343107
I don't read litrpgs so I wouldn't know and usually the appeal of gsgs is achieving perfect borders along some kind of roleplay/historical/metagame motivation

>MC can copy skills and keep them after training
>60 chapters in
>only took basic elemental magic from first parties mage

Why do all these "authors" forget about their premise and fall into schema F slop?
Everybody squanders their incredible golden fingers, its sickening.
Min Max that shit, hop groups, stack multipliers or go talent scouting.

>>25343127
copycuck was a power I thought was cool in middle school, these "people" aren't beyond a middle school level

Which editor can show you how much you have written per chapter? Is there such a thing for gdosc? Like, no way you're just selecting text and copypasting it somewhere to count words\symbols each time you write.

>>25343133
literally any text editor, stop using some proprieatary spyware javashit like a dumb retard.
install sublime text, notepad++, emacs, whatever.

>get into new webnovel
>binge it
>author enters delay mode just when I become invested
I am cursed.

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>>25343137
this is why I only read finished works

>>25343135
How does 'spying' on my text work in any way if I'm going to post it online later myself, regardless? I've got a separate pc just for work with debloated windows brave etc etc, whatever. I just wanted to know if there are any known methods for daily stuff, or if I should write a head-to-head counter per chapter myself.

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>>25343133
Besides the fact RR itself just tells you the word count below the text editor, it also tells you your word count when it's published too.

Though at this point I can identify my word count by a specific feature of my writing tool: Line count in Notepad.

>>25343127
Official lamest and most overused power types ranking:
>void
>shadow
>necromancy
>copy
>antimagic

Official coolest and most underused power types ranking:
>gu

>>25343152
No ideas for antimagic and void, the rest have creative potential.
Fleshcrafting and boneshaping for minions or transformation.
Blood, soul, curse and decay spells.
Attack spells are always a bit samey, but there is a lot of auxiliary potential.

>>25343127
Honestly martial mimicry similar to taskmaster is more interesting, especially for a antagonist in a martial heavy story.
Copying magical power beams is inherently lame especially when the protagonist has it.
WAY better returning villain power because it forces the mc to constantly think up new shit whenever dealing with the copycat. Even as a one and done villain it's good.

If a MC used it even halfway to it's full potential it would just be a lame instant win button and each new threat is just a power pickup.
Never give your protag instant win buttons.
It's the real reason protagonist almost never have powers like mind control or mind reading unless there are heavy restrictions that come with it.
Or why invisibility is never a primary protagonist power.
It is instant killer of all tension since the protagonist would be able to opt out of conflict whenever they wanted.

>>25343152
Necromancy is cool as fuck, it's just a shame 99% of the time it's used just to raise minions or something

>>25343184
Sounds like you are describing Silver (or however the fuck his name is spelled in those books).
Uses his previous experience as a master necromancer to literally break the rpg system he found himself under when he returned from being killed.
Like constantly killing shit 100 levels above him, generally acting like a merder hobo psychopath, and irredeemably edgy and evil, yet always no matter what he did felt completely and totally justified.
Internal power scaling was utterly meaningless as far as I could tell.

Haven't really read any other web novels with necromancer protagonist.

>>25343206
Doesnt ring a bell, sounds like Id read that if anybody has the source.

>>25343206
>>25343218
>Sylver Seeker
nvm, I assume I found it

>>25343198
>Or why invisibility is never a primary protagonist power.
I genuinely have read something where that was the protagonist's power recently. Took me a bit to find out what it was, but it's "The Sixth Campaign" (https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/152859/the-sixth-campaign).

Maybe twenty chapters in he gets a power that's perfect stealth for a minute or so with a 24-hour cooldown. He proceeds to use this power in the stupidest possible ways and refuses to kill anything. It blows chunks.

>>25343239
That's the one.

>>25343184
>Blood, soul, curse and decay spells.
>soul
Spectral Soul Demon Venerable agrees.

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it should be a fat ugly bastard right?

>>25343200
Uh, what do you think necromancy does?

>>25343127
>MC can copy skills and keep them after training
>60 chapters in
>only took basic elemental magic from first parties mage
Huh? In most of these stories I've read, the MC is an invincible god already by chapter 10. Maybe koreans have different ideas

>>25343279
Yes, that would be much more satisfying.

>>25343279
If it's Hot Anime Man then it's just run-of-the-mill self-indulgence.

If you make the protagonist a Wario-esque fat ugly deviant freak, you get three things happening at once:
>You can dip into comedy whenever you want
>You're capitalizing on a popular memetic variation of an otherwise boring genre
>You're also luring women in because they're really into that shit for whatever reason

>>25343284
>>You're also luring women in because they're really into that shit for whatever reason
It's just not really rape if the guy is attractive. Masochists want to be made to enjoy their ravishment and humiliation against their will.

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>>25343289
Oh they're into consensual encounters with them too. I know a few women who want to deepthroat this thing.

>>25343279
It'd have been more controversial to make him black rather than fat and ugly.

>Work has been heavy these past weeks, and I'm not happy with what I've written. I'm going to have to delay the chapter another week. Apologies for the letdown.
Another week without my fix. Maybe I should just let AI generate the next chapter.

>>25343301
Black is far less controversial. Ugly bastards are also old, poor, creeps,

>>25343127
>MC steals a skill solely to dab on the user
>never uses it again
>does this like 10 times to different people

>>25343280
Communing with the dead/spirits, healing and manipulating souls, casting curses etc?

>>25343302
Read: I haven't written a single thing because I was busy gooning and playing games.
Sorry paypiggies, but keep that money flowing!

>>25343313
Ah yes, the "we're a video game so we can't do anything that might strain our programming skills" school of necromancy.

>>25343311
this shit goes all the way back to naruto's first real arc

>>25343313
Necromancy is literally about raising the dead by definition. None of that is necromancy. You're describing ordinary magecraft

>>25343317
A necromancer could replace someone else's soul with their own, cast curses on souls, summon souls, spread their soul around to multiple bodies, resurrect etc.
Raising minions is cool and all, but never done well in any game

>>25343316
This might be the case for any other author but not this one. He only recently started a patreon and only because people were begging to let them support him. As far as I know there's no incentives for it, it's basically a tip jar.

>>25343133
I use obsidian and that one natively tells me how many words are in a doc. There's also a plugin that tells you how many words below each heading if you want.

>>25343133
Just count them yourself. You probably only write like 100 words anyway.

>>25343343
>Necromancy is literally about raising the dead by definition
No it isn't.
Learn what words mean.

>>25343365
I'm 99% convinced half of /lit/ is actually just browns who have not read anything ever and think popsci and fantasy neologisms borrowed for fiction are the actual definitions for the actual words.

>>25343372
Not only retarded, but also illiterate and doubling down, huh?

>>25343375
>bringing the dead back isn't bringing the dead back because uh ah eh er AD HOMINEM

>>25343372
>Who's the esl, nigger?
You apperently, lol.

>>25343279
the ntr isekai manga is pretty good but the mc is a gyaru-oh rather than a fat ugly bastard.

>>25343380
Read what you said >>25343343 before you try to argue with me for another post you retarded hindoonigger.

>>25343372
No wonder webnovel writers can't come up with cool applications to abilities.

>>25343419
ESL because he's a retarded hindoo taking his definitions from fantasy stories misusing the words for a creative purpose which has been beaten to death by now.

>>25343301
>It'd have been more controversial to make him black rather than fat and ugly.
The point is to make the story more enjoyable, not less.

>>25343279
what the fuck is a "NTR"?

>>25343438
Cuckshit.

>>25343433
I think it'd be enjoyable if it were all written in ebonics and there was a constant self-aware notion that the narrator keeps forgetting shit that happened six paragraphs ago.

>necro-
before vowels, necr-, word-forming element meaning "death, corpse, dead tissue," from Latinized form of Greek nekros "dead body, corpse, dead person," from PIE root *nek- (1) "death."
>-mancy
word-forming element of Greek origin meaning "divination by means of," from Old French -mancie, from Late Latin -mantia, from Greek manteia "oracle, divination," from mantis "one who divines, a seer, prophet; one touched by divine madness," from mainesthai "be inspired," which is related to menos "passion, spirit" (from PIE *mnyo-, suffixed form of root *men- (1) "to think," with derivatives referring to qualities and states of mind or thought). Compare mania.
>necromancy
putting them together basically means "death seer"

>Circa 1300, from Middle English nigromancye, from Old French nigromancie, from Medieval Latin nigromantia, from Latin necromantia, from Ancient Greek νεκρομαντεία (nekromanteía), νεκρός (nekrós, “dead”) + μαντεία (manteía, “divination”). Medieval Latin spelling, incorporating nigger (“black”), influenced by the notion of black art. Modern spelling adopted in mid-1500s. By surface analysis, necro- + -mancy.

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>>25343454
>nigromancye
Shiieeet

>>25343494
a classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxjA-jq1e7E

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>>25343438
>what the fuck is a "NTR"?
A shortening of one of three Japanese words, netorare, netorase, and netorari.

Netorare refers to works and situations where the PoV person or character is cuckolded* or cuckqueans* against their will.

Netori refers to works and situations where the PoV person or character cuckolds or cuckqueans someone against their will.

Netorase referse to works and situations where the PoV person or character is willingly cuckolded or cuckqueaned. This comes in 3 general flavors, swinging, sharing, and cuckoldry/cuckqueanry play.

Importantly netorare and netori are sometimes expanded to include situations where the person or character being NTR'd was not yet in a relationship yet and either realizes their feelings after the fact or had not acted on their feelings yet.

Derived terms include NTL (a Korean term sometimes used for netori to clearly distinguish it from netorare), NTS (a term sometimes used to specify netorase), and MTR (a term for fucking a person or character's mother, generally against their wishes and sometimes with the implication that they have an Oedipus complex). The latter relates to the fact that a lot of NTR and NTR adjacent media also involves people's friends and relatives getting fucked, not just their lovers. Again, often with them realizing their feelings for those people after discovering their relationship.

Related Terms:
Cuckold - a man whose partner engages in adultery
Cuckquean - a woman whose partner engages in adultery
Bull - a man who has sex with someone's partner as part of cuckoldry or cuckqueanry play
Cuckcake - a woman who has sex with someone's partner as part of cuckoldry or cuckqueanry play

See also: swinging, sharing, open relationship, polyamory, polyandry, polygyny, polygamy, polycule, harem, and reverse harem

>>25343089
you may be on to something, even the Clara Casewell author has talked about liking Victoria 3

>>25343678
I am scared to ask if this was straight from your head, AI, or you copypasted it from somewhere.

There are no good answers where this cursed knowledge came from.

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>>25343695
>I am scared to ask if this was straight from your head
Straight from my head.

How many stats is too much in litrpg? Working on a system right now, and it's around 10 stats in the end such as STR INT END etc. And it's really the shortened and cropped version, I hate it when they read all the stats in audiobooks, it gets so boring.

>>25343706
I think lowest I've seen is 4, highest is 12 excluding specialty stats not everyone gets, and the average is generally around 6-8.

This is setting aside the pool stats which are generally directly derived from one or more of the others, as well as shit like experience and level.

For what it's worth, I would first consider what each stat is going to be doing narratively if anything. Like if you aren't going to have any characters specialize in RES, do you even need a RES stat? Can that just be covered by skills/equipment? That sort of thing.

Put another way, main casts generally have different casts specialize in different things. How large do you want your main cast to be and what do you want them to specialize in?

>>25343706
Personally prefer when stats aren't explicit, and if it's based on a game system that system is kept to the background. Sort of like the old D&D novels.

That said stats are tolerable if they actually are relevant and have clear noticeable reasonably predictable effects in the story through showing rather than just telling.
Also when stats go up, for potential audiobook listeners in the future, rather than listing the whole stat block every time a stat changes, just note the stat that changed and save the full stat block for end of chapter or end of arch portions so as not to disrupt the flow of the narrative.

I have zero advice for the exact number of stats, but I lean towards less being more.

>author adds litRPG to the tags
>the "system" shows up like once every couple of chapters
Speaking of systems, maybe I've overthought this. I assumed litRPG would be nothing more than statpadding or statsheet reading, in which you would have to add about 20 attributes and explain each one.
A System could show up here and there without taking up too much of the real story. That would be great because I often overthink a lot of aspects of the plot.
I don't want to create a spreadsheet for a litRPG, but I figured authors might just add System messages here and there.
I'll probably do this instead.

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>>25343729
I have tried to divide them by 3 categories for physical/magic/mental with 3 other that are disconnected and cannot be enhanced with a subtotal in the end, that makes it 20 lines, holy shit.
Do I just cut the 3 groups down to 2 per category, or should I just abandon mental altogether and include all its properties into "magic"? I really want to play with numbers tho.

>>25343706
I don't think stats are necessary. You can make do with just levels/abilities/items etc, like in Wandering Inn

>>25343773
It's why labels such as 'crunchy litrpg' (stories which have a large focus on stats) are a thing. Like any genre there is spectrum of different styles.

>>25343777
Okay, if I were going to fix this, uh...

1. Knowledge shouldn't be a character stat. If it's narratively relevant, track it with whatever a character has knowledge of, be it a quest or a monster, separately, so you aren't constantly bringing it up every time you see a character's stats
2. Focus, Perception, and Control could probably be combined into a Fortitude or Willpower stat and stuck up by Vitality each representing physical and mental fitness.
3. I have no fucking idea what Willpower or Acumen are supposed to mean in this context, nor do I see how they relate to Stamina.
4. Health, Mana, and Stamina don't need to be explicit stats if you don't want them to be. They can be represented purely narratively or as hidden stats that characters know exist but don't know explicit values of moment to moment.

>>25343777
as the other anon said a lot of these can just be collapsed into how you render them on the page rather than being enumerated
you don't want each of your characters to be degenerated into being entirely represented by their numbers, like you don't want an information asymmetry to be spelled out as character A having 0 knowledge and character B as having 20 knowledge
i think even the biggest fans of litrpg would think that's retarded
>nooo but it's thematically relevant for every character to be defined entirely by their stat sheet
then your themes are retarded
or at least have your characters buck the outcomes that are assumed based on these stats, and piss off every reader that came for the stats in the first place since they clearly mean nothing

>>25343777
>>25343871
So, my fix would be:
>Level
>Class
>Health (hidden stat, scaled off Level, Vitality, and Fortitude)
>Stamina (hidden stat, scaled off Vitality)
>Mana (hidden stat, scaled off Fortitude)
>Vitality (physical heartiness)
>Fortitude (mental heartiness)
>Strength (physical potential)
>Agility (physical celerity and control)
>Intellect (magical potential)
>Wisdom (magical celerity and control)
>Luck
>Charisma
>Domination

>>25343777
>>25343936
This is why I think this genre should fucking die already. What story does "guy gains 20+ strength" convey?

>>25343951
He gets stronger. We get all that without paragraphs of prose nonsense showing him lifting a boulder. With +20 strength, we know he can do it.

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>>25343986
>We get all that without paragraphs of prose nonsense
Hindooslop really needs to die.

>>25343986
>We get the story without [story]
huh?

>>25343995
You don't understand aura farming. Like goku when he super Saiyan. He gets stronger without us needing another 10 minutes of his muscles getting bigger

>>25343986
>prose nonsense
...what medium do you think this is
>footage in movies is nonsense
>pictures in manga are nonsense

>>25344021
I don't watch DBZslop specifically because it's retarded.

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Are their any LitRPGs that do a GURPS-like make your own skill system? I'm working on one right now, and I find the lack of examples I can find of people doing this disturbing(ignore the soul techinque stuff)

>>25344044
arkendrithryst's system boils down to this and 80% of the prose ends up being an exploration of it

>>25344044
Not sure how gurps works but The Legend of William Oh might work.

Just write xianxia, but not the dumb western tier magic school 'xianxia'

>>25342531
Sadly mine just has a lot of drunken Russians pretending to be Iowans

>>25344116
>western tier magic school 'xianxia'
Like what?

>>25344116
I'm sick of western magic system/litRPG (disguised xianxia)

>>25344139
Like sky pride

>>25344021
DBZ is literally famous for its prolonged transformations are you retarded
SSJ3 is FIVE MINUTES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr5kxht1HVA

>>25344207
More to the point, large chunks of the series are just characters training.

>>25344224
Nta, training is fine but literally spending almost an entire episode just screaming/powering up is not.

>>25344116
Be more specific do you just want Er Gen slop but in EFL?

>>25344198
Well, that's not western tier but straight up western. And I don't remember it being all that much of a magic school story because they send MC and pretty much everyone to do odd jobs in a hellish desert far too soon.

>>25344198
Tard wrangling Tian and teaching him concepts such as common courtesy and basic manners is a significant early-story concept involving the side characters.
If you want a rough gritty intro to a xianxia related story then read Infinite Realm. But nobody will.

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>>25344301
>read Infinite Realm
Do you mean this one? I've seen it before and dismissed it due to obvious reasons.

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>>25344247
Yes. Renegade immortal writing is mid (if the translation is at least somewhat accurate) but the tone of the story and the story itself are excellent. That kind of tone is severely lacking in western works.

See pic related, first fee paragraphs of chapter 1 and it already feels like a cheap imitation.

>>25344314
Yes. I've mentioned it a few times throughout this general. By no means do I claim it is amazing or top-tier but it is fun and offers something different.

>>25344314
>le ebin Nigger Samurai
>russian author name
hm no we're not doing that

>>25344340
>we

>>25344348
>wuz

>>25343936
If I see a big blue window with all of that + skills + traits, I will assume you didnt feel like writing the other half of the chapter and needed filler.

If you like slicing shit like that up just put stuff into milestones that are generally used in your world.
Punching power, cultivator ranks, magic circles, grades of mana control/density/output or whatever the fuck you want to use to convey progression.
Prefer that to big boxes that make me gain +1 in my carpal tunnel stat.

At least abstract your abstractions or only give me stats relevant to the mainclass.

>>25343089
..hmm.

I do have an autistic love of map painting games, even if ck3 still kinda sucks. You're on to something.

"Nani, my transmigratory xianxia journey was interrupted by my immortal horse harem inviting me to rule Bohemia and develop its silver mine? Janos Marik's time travelling dimension hopping journey!"

>>25344314
>obvious reasons

>>25342663
no u

>>25344354
>At least abstract your abstractions or only give me stats relevant to the mainclass.
That's only 9 stats though? And 1 seems narratively relevant given that I don't recognize it.

>Lv. X [Class]
>VIT: X | FOR: X
>STR: X | INT: X
>AGI: X | WIS: X
>LUK: X | CHA: X
>DOM: X

That's not half a chapter.

>>25344340
The attitude of an average russian towards chinese or any other culture is that of contempt. Naturally with an attitude like that, both russian readers and writers have no interest in deeper xianxia/daoism themes and concepts. To them xianxia is just a popular thing and a trend to be monetized.

>>25343706
Stats suck because numbers are meaningless, and your average reader that reads 50 litrpgs at the same time has no clue what any of it means when reading your weekly chapter.
Keep it simple. Health, mana, stamina if you have to do numbers. If you do skills, they must have hardcaps (skills can upgrade or merge, but they don't reach higher than, say, level 10). If you do classes, your MC preferably never reaches over 1000 during the whole story; keep them low, milestones at milestone numbers.

>>25344340
The two 'main characters', or first significant characters, are
>Ryun, asian
>Zach, nigga knight
In retaliation to a government raid that killed his Earth wife, Ryun destroyed a town and unintentionally killed Zach's wife, not that he knew it for a long time. And that was maybe the prologue.

>>25344358
>even if ck3 still kinda sucks
It does, such weird game, that doesn't seem to know what it wants to be: RPG or strategy.
Like, supposedly the game is about characters, but the battle system is completely removed from that.
Meanwhile, everything in the game revolves around collecting modifiers to improve your stats.

Honestly, CK3 inspired LitRPG might be kinda fun. Imagine the MC getting a certain personality in order to get a stats boost, only to suffer changes to their personality?

>>25344378
Holy anglo projection

Do you guys not see all the kingdom building slop on RR or something? Obviously there's an overlap between map painters and slop readers.

>>25344423
ideaguys and market speculators aren't involved in the culture at all and none of them read

>>25344420
r*ssians see other cultures with contempt because otherwise they wouldn't be calling Ukraine "little r*ssians" while murdering them.
There is nothing factually incorrect about what he said. Only Whites have fascination with asian culture.

>>25344397
The mechanics are tolerable, it's mostly the lack of content compared to 2. When Glitterhoof and I are ruling a continent in 2 even though I'm 350 years old there's always something new trundling toward me, and it's no doubt stupid. In 3 you just run out of events in a mortal life time.

>>25344437
I think anglo projection would be the
>To them xianxia is just a popular thing and a trend to be monetized
because yeah, the russian contempt for every foreign culture on the planet is a given

>>25344437
Why are you self-censoring Russian? lol

>>25344452
Because they don't deserve to be given an upper case.

>>25344452
treating it like a slur to own the libs and win the culture war

>>25344465
How come, Young Junior? I need a laugh tonight.

>>25344437
dumb pigger

>>25344476
I played enough ranked multiplayer games to know they're total retarded scum and their IRL behavior only reinforces it. See >>25344484

>>25344443
I am eastern European, I know russians well, they hate asian people, merely looking asian is enough for discrimination

>>25344496
>100% of a populace is the same
I see.

>>25344524
Unfortunately with their retarded race, yes.

>>25344235
Uh, I was referring to Gohan with Piccolo or Goku with King Kai or Goku on the spaceship or the time chamber, etc.

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>>25344207
>look, this is retarded
>we should take the essence of this and put it into text format
Or just, like...
Don't?

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First actually nice milestone for views!

>>25344733
I don't want to shit in your mouth and piss on your parade, but after how many days, anon?

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>>25344746
Started my tracking sheet 11 days in and didn't have day 1-10 numbers.

>>25344777
10k after 26 days is not bad, anon.

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I really went along with that corny ass name: DEAD GOD REBORN, fk me. It get's worse, here's the blurb:

If a god is powerful enough, he cannot simply die. All of them have their ways around death.
A terminally ill sports player, Dan, a mere human, does not. But he quickly finds out what happens exactly when a god tries to come back to life. And while it claws at Dan's soul, demanding his body, it drags omniscient powers into Earth's reality, giving everyone new powers. In Dan's case it's barely enough for him to fight back.
It’s the System, and it grants something to everyone who seeks, be it a quick death or a cure. Now it's Dan’s turn to get what he wants and needs: to find a cure and to kill the parasite inside his soul. And while some immortals have been slain, Dan’s fight won’t be easy, because that thing inside his soul is not only a simple god but one of the five Origins, The War Incarnate.

Question is: it is corny and dramatic enough? Is it clickable? Catchy? Basically a monster whackamole in planning while I read through all the guides.

>>25344777
26 days for 10k views? isn't that quite good?

>>25344782
>A terminally ill sports player
I feel like I had a hand in something cursed.

>>25344784
I actually don't know. All I know is once I finally paid for my ad campaign it shot up pretty fast. I saw myself move into the top 13k in almost real time because of it. Mind you, that's basically where all the actually active stories are according to market research, but it's good to be close to the top 10% so quickly.

>>25344782
reeks of stealth xianxia
>system apocalypse
might be good to communicate this genre more overtly since you want to catch that readerbase at a glance

>>25344788
>according to market research
sauce?

>>25344795
So I had a three point situation of measure.
Point one is from the RR forums:
https://www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/152420?page=1&pid=1584869#pid1584869
Exactly last year, 92.2k releases
Then, in December 2025, this plebbit post with the tower states 103k:
https://old.reddit.com/r/royalroad/comments/1psavce/current_status_of_all_royal_road_fictions/
Finally, the most recent post frmo April 2026 states 117k fiction IDs have been generated on RoyalRoad:
https://old.reddit.com/r/ProgressionFantasy/comments/1sq06l1/the_history_of_royal_road_or_how_a_translation/

But he also adds that ostensibly roughly 15% actually are ongoing or completed, and the rest are dead in one way or another. That lines up with numbers on similar creative platforms in terms of percentages and such.

This means if you're within the top 11.7k on ranking, you're in the top 10% of RR. If any anons in this thread hit that threshold, they should be very proud.

>>25344784
I'd say that's great. Mine is 5 months and only 2k views. Started running an ad 2 weeks ago too.

>>25344790
Oh, yeah the fucking tags, I'm ESL as someone said here, and it's odd for me to tag inside the work's name itself. Should it be something like... DEAD GOD REBORD [LitRPG, System Apocalypse, Weak to OP MC]?

>>25344805
>tower report is actually real
wtf

reborn* >>25344810

>>25344810
yeah if you don't communicate your premise or hook your readerbase in your title or cover art then you can just tack it on with title tags
I'd probably skip litRPG since that's an actual tag and I think it's less that RR readers into litRPG seek it out, and more that they assume it as a defacto then filter out stories that aren't. system apoc sorta implies litRPG too

>>25344777
How much did the ads cost? How many followers have you gotten atp?

>>25344816
Yeah, the System Apocalypse implies it I suppose.

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>>25344811
They also do line up if you pay attention to how rankings move. I've been watching mine like a hawk. Followers up to 25 can move you tens of thousands of ranks. Followers up to 35 move you maybe a few hundred.

Ratings, meanwhile, instantly can shoot you up over a thousand ranks per rating. Favorites don't seem to move the dial much at all, or if they do, they're the least weighted.

Overall, getting up to about 35 to get close to the top 10%, but after that you need ratings. Lots of ratings. Followers need to go in chunks of 10-15+ it seems like to make any comparable momentum at that point.

>>25344820
I paid for the second highest tier and have gained 16 followers in 6 days. I also am running a very cheap reddit campaign on reading-focused subreddits which is the highest mover of views. My overall ad budget is about $500-ish. The reddit campaign ends the 19th, I'll be posting an overall inside baseball report then on things like demographic info for other anons.

Immediate morsel I can state: If you pander to Southeast Asians, a Reddit campaign is worth its weight in gold.

MC gets isekai'd into a mosquito and has to figure out how to grow strong.

>>25344830
Oh, to note on my gains for reddit: I am not targeting certain subreddits that likely would have even higher "attach" rates such as LitRPG as I'm not writing one due to how reddit's impressions system works. If you're writing a LitRPG then you should obviously and d definitely target r/LitRPG.

>>25344836
Mosquito evolution. From Lvl 1 Bloodsucker to Lvl 99 Malaria Lord.

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>>25344782
I asked a clanker to pimp it out a bit:

An immortal god doesn't just die. It looks for an open seat.
Dan was supposed to rot in a hospital bed, a broken ex-athlete waiting out a terminal diagnosis. Instead, his failing body became a life raft for something ancient.

When the entity forced its way into his soul, the sheer violence of its arrival tore open Earth's reality. The world awakens to The System—a cosmic framework granting powers based on the deepest desires of mortality. Some ask for wealth; others beg for a cure.

For Dan, the System gives him just enough power to do two things: fight back against the parasite rotting his mind, and hunt down a cure for his failing body. But evicting a tenant is hard when that tenant isn't just any minor deity. It’s one of the five Origins.

The War Incarnate.

Dan wanted a second chance at life. Instead, he’ll have to wage a one-man war against the god of war itself.

>>25344882
Please don't do it ever again to me. I hate gen ai text, mine is bad enough. I am shitting and bleeding and snorting when I see gen ai text.

>>25344116
Never been able to get into xianxia.
The writing is too awful.

>>25344350
Kangz

>>25344830
>If you pander to Southeast Asians, a Reddit campaign is worth its weight in gold.
I don't have anything against ASEAN munkes per se, but I'd honestly rather die than pander to nations with sub 90 average IQ.

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>>25344882
>THE WORLD HAS FALLEN.

>>25344926
My bad anon. But what do you think about the cover

What does "pander to SEA" even mean? Don't they just read chinkslop anyway

>>25345001
Frankly you just gotta reference some shit popular in their countries and you can probably immediately rope them in. None of my numbers are particularly high-engagement beyond follow and faves so it's not like my comments section has turned into a Jollibee or something.

You gotta remember 1% of 1% of 1% of internet users actually do things like comment or interact, and that's proportionate for any viewerbase too.

>>25341570
Recently, I have been reading random stories on "latest updates", and it's really surprising how many stories just discontinued very early; many don't even seem to reach 20,000 words.
I guess I get the feeling with my latest chapter, total of 10 views in 20 days, but still people should do better than me.

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>>25345017
Mostly, but if you can catch topics or materials that are especially deep cuts for them, you could probably get somewhere. Random one off the top of my head: Isekai trucking where it happens because the lead decides to sing "My Way."

The fucked up part is I'm not even SEA, I'm just in too many circles full of SEAs that I've learned their culture by osmosis.

>>25345011
I am sorry but it is the same trashgpt. Given the text with the 'rule of three' it may even persuade readers away, giving out impression that text inside is ai too.

Don't really come to /lit/ often but I'm surprised how fast this general is. Would've thought that this general would be far slower like it is on /vst/.

>>25345077
I'm probably contributing to majority of the posts here due to actively lurking.

>>25345077
Web novels is actually pretty wide topic and the general covers both reading and writing. Two other generals /wg/ and /wbg/ are for creators only and /sffg/ is reader focused.
Even slow boards like /vst/ have fairly fast threads like the AoE one

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do you think this ad will get me readers?

>>25345125
No

>>25345125
no but it would be funny as fuck so do it anyways

>>25345077
I post when I can, just not much to talk about. Took a pause from writing to goof off in cs2, and been reading War and Peace. After I finished binging Sworn to Destruction I just haven't been reading any other webnovels; I do have The Crystalline Initiative on my to read since its completed and I need to find the motivation to start on crow and rabbit since that's ending soon too.

>>25345125
I actually think it's really good lol
idk why other anons are saying no. it's funny while making it clear what your story is

>>25345113
>wbg/ are for creators only
Lol, most in that thread create nothing and get mad if you even bring up actually writing writing a story or doing a project.

>>25345113
world builders are 99% ideaguys who've never completed a project in their life

>>25345125
I like it
>sells your premise
>makes the viewer laugh
you invite hostility with it and might get a hate rating/review but it's based so you should do it

Thoughts on killing off harem members and replacing them with new ones? The interactions have grown stale and I don't really like writing them anymore

>>25345224
>killing them off
do not
>retiring them via giving them shit to do that keeps them off the page
totally fine and normal for harem stories

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>>25345224
I decided against it. Harem is supposed to be lighthearted and fun. Love Hina, To Luv Ru, and Yuuna & the Haunted Onsen never had funeral scenes.

Unless you're going to do a comical death, like Weekend at Bernies or Clue or something.

>>25345278
Or one of the girls comes back in someway, like a skeleton or ghost.

>>25345278
you don't need to literally 'kill them off', you can just sideline. same as it ever was

>>25345155
>The Crystalline Initiative
i enjoyed this one

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some authors don't even bother with covers...
Is this new meta?

>>25345528
yeah, copy him

>>25345528
This would be a challenge right here.
>no cover
>no art
>just the description
>thats it
If you could garner a sizeable audience with these conditions, you'd undoubtedly be on a whole new level compared to others.

read to ch200 on Reverend Insanity, it does a better job of setup and payoff than most webslop but once it became apparent the author was going to kill everyone on the mountain I kind of got bored.