Dogshit Website That Should Die EditionStubbed >>25363732>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>Advice for Noobs!##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##Running your story like the business it is:www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847On writing web serials:alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLYRecommended web novelsrentry.co/d2yvczroAnon's guide to successrentry.co/RRBasicGuideFAQrentry.co/pytefpxn
>>25371338>Dogshit Website That Should Die Editionwriting was on the wall the minute the chinese bought them out
>royalroad>scribblehubWhat else exists for native English stories?
>>25371338redpill me on Wuxiaworld
>>25371343Amazon
/wng/ - Animation & Video Editing General
>>25371344https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressionFantasy/comments/z68ixp/the_rise_and_fall_of_wuxiaworld/tldr Was good with high quality translations founded by a US diplomat. Got too popular after Covid and sold out to gook corpos who turned it into another pay to read site like WebNovel.
>>25371360Why is it animated. Just the this is fine part as a still image would be a good ad
>>25371338>Dogshit Website That Should Die Edition4chan?
>>25371343wattpad, ao3, literoticaAnd a million tiny sites no one actually uses, of course
>>25371343Spacebattles.
>>25371343I think this question is worth putting into the OP at this point
>>25371343Questionable Questing, Sufficient Velocity, honeyfeed, Webnovel
>>25371415The answer is in the OP
>>25371418>honeyfeedWhat is with the astroturfing campaign for this site? It has no readers. The top trending novels of the month get sub 1 comments per chap. It is a ghost town
>>25371425Yeah it's buried though, we get that question by newbs maybe more than any other
>>25371426>novelswinnies>chapchappie (or chappy?)
>>25371429>chappie (or chappy?)chappie, unless the singular form of winnies is winny, which looks silly
>>25371429I understand the purpose of your crusade, but no
>>25371415Frankly, though, the answer is effectively just Royalroad if you're not doing mostly smut and Scribblehub if you are.
>>25371450No, there are other real answers. Even for fantasy fic. Spacebattles has shitloads of readers. Ao3 and Wattpad if you're in a romance genre or adjacent
The Years of Apocalypse released on Amazon and is kind of flopping :(An actually good story doing badly despite a healthy launch by the biggest publisher (Aethon). Are Amazon readers even more retarded than Royal Road's?
>>25371425wait I'm blind
>>25371463> Are Amazon readers even more retarded than Royal Road's?Dungeon Crawler Carl was a hit on Amazon so yes
>>25371426I sent 2 questions to honeyfeed and received no answer for both.Not sure why they have a send-a-question form if they're not going to use it.
>>25371463Almost like friendfarming on RR doesn't actually get you tangible sales.
>>25371463Damn that poor author is only making 10k per month on this patreon, how will he survive?
>meet-cute of my MC and love interest is finally happeningGod bros I feel sick. I'm going to ruin the fucking story.
>>25371503He's a friendfarmer?
>>25371542;_;(wtf?)
>>25371503Patreon subs are closer to "sales" than people reading your stuff on KDP.You don't just copy paste the story and call it a day. You rewrite and edit it first. It's possible they either didn't do that properly or it was done and the appeal of the story was lost in the process.
>>25371559Me too twin
fellas is there still money in vanilla cyberpunk or does it have to have added cultivation elements
>>25371463>Are Amazon readers even more retarded than Royal Road's?Cradle was a hit on Amazon so yes.
>>25371613Cradle is not a webnovel so I'm not sure why you brought it up.It's peak though. Traveler's Gate is also peak. His newest series is shit.
any nice haremsloppa? I generally only look into amazon stuff or asian webnovels, not western webnovels
>>25371463I mean, the audience for this have already read it on RR. Even the (now) big Amazon series took time to build up a KDP audience.
>>25371463Isn't that the mother of learning ripoff? I remember reading the first seven or so chapters before getting bored.
>>25371654It gets good after 200 chapter.Also it has at least two trannies and the MC is pansexual.
>>25371654Any timeloop is now MoL ripoff?
>>25371639On Astral Tides.>>25371654I believe intentionally, it starts out like it's a MoL clone but as it progresses it becomes it's own thing and very different. By the time it finishes it seems destined to be a better overall series than MoL.
>>25371620It was self-published and was breaking records.
>>25371660dumb retardself published <> webnovel
>>25371656He's probably talking about the initial student at a magic school premise.
>>25371662DCC was nothing until it was SELF-PUBLISHED which was the origination of the conversation.
>>25371666dumb retard, dcc started as a web novel
>>25371609True vanilla cyberpunk means the MC gets fucked, won't go over well.You can do progression instead of cultivation. They get more tech, crew, territory etc
Have you cultivated today?>>>/x/42593438
>>25371609PlumParrot's series do well enough to suggest standard cyberpunk is still popular. His latest is in the Top 10 and Cyber Dreams did well on KU
>>25371655lol?
>>25371689The second sentence is deadass real and true btw. on god.
>>25371692no cap?
>>25371694Strictly speaking it's true but it's like < 0.1% of the story and utterly irrelevant to the overall plot. But ofc since this is 4chan, 0.1% may as well be 99.9%.
>>25371698you could have just said "it's true". none of your other words added anything of value.
>>25371702So you're the kind of person who only wants one-word reviews? Gotcha.
>>25371704insane leap of logic
>>25371698Well I wasn't going to read that specific sloppa anyhow, still weird
>>25371658>On Astral Tides.I've heard of it, what's the gist?
>>25371087>Or, or it’s because birds of a feather stick togetherThe birds in this case would be males who actively seek romance novels. You yourself can quit RR for a week and you'll find the most popular romance focused books(male or female) will generally follow pic related
>>25371804WNs like left?
>>25371360Maybe I'm just too gay and European, but I didn't like the incel vibe of your protagonist and dropped thisBut I did like your style of writing, your descriptions are very funny
>>25371792On the surface, your typical Earth gains a System-adjacent premise with an MC who slowly levels up and gain the usual anime harem in the process. However while the author unashamedly enjoys all the genre's tropes and smut they also treat it "seriously". It's the execution, character development (even of the harem girls) and depth of world building that set it so far above almost all of the other similar sloppa.
>>25371363it's better with sound effects and music
Why aren't futa-led harem WNs more popular?
>>25371865There's Rebirth of the Nephilim and uhh...
>>25371865What? All two of them?
>>25371655Misinformation.There's one genderfluid side character who is barely relevant and disappears early (a teacher who shapeshifts literally every day to match preferred gender), and one nonbinary character who is somewhat important but doesn't really do that much (one of the other time loopers)--no trannies.The main character does seem like a lezzo (toward Professor Jei and fellow looper Liuan), but I don't remember her actually engaging in any romance.
>>25371876WTF, I thought I added spoilers? Whatever.
What are gu?
>>25371873Why are there only two
I can't stand the quality difference for webnovel slop, it's like rolling a gacha that can somehow detect whenever you're entering an interest lull in the hobby and plays it like a rollercoaster to keep you from disembarking. I'm losing my mind. 99% of slop is so bad you'll curl your lips up in disgust and drop it after a single chapter, and then whenever you want to get off the ride and find a new hobby, you suddenly stumble upon a masterpiece with the most generic and trite cover that condemns you to shit-sifting for similar quality for a minimum of six months before unearthing anything even remotely similar. Fuck off.
>>25371865Because futafags mostly want to suck cock and get penetrated.
>>25371900I actually agree with the sentiment, though I don't sift through trash I wait for others to do it. I only read by rec and it's still an issue>masterpiece with the most generic and trite coverLike what, out of curiosity?
>>25371905Mine :) (i can't afford an artist)
>>25371904Shouldn't that passion lead to greater proliferation of their niche? That's how it usually works. Or is this just a seethe response
>>25371900Sturgeon's Law has been a thing since forever.
>>25371876>but I don't remember her actually engaging in any romance.I remember Mirian having minor romances with both the tsun-girl and the rich boytoy. And someone from the fencing mini arc.
>>25371908I suppose a harem could include other futas and guys for them to suck and fuck. Maybe you should go to /lgbt/ and ask them why they don't read futa harem novels.
>>25371900You could literally just read the classics and enjoy consistent high quality.>but I read them all alreadyRead them again.There, lifetime fulfilled (squandered), you didn't even have to go outside and do anything.
>>25371876>Misinformation.>continues to basically confirm what anon saidsilly tranny
>>25371917If your theory is true, you would just write from the female harem member povs for the sex, silly. Though I'm not convinced that's even what futa enjoyers would want rather than it being from the futa pov. Also doesn't answer the original question or the failure in reasoning I pointed out last post so this is clearly a seethe post.Why are you so mad about this?
Is the LGBT seether the same anon as the fmc seether?
>>25371926Anon, I am not mad, futafags mostly fantasize about sucking futacock, not about wanting to be a futa and having a harem. That's obvious from literally all futa hentai/porn comment sections. Not that there aren't any futafags who just would like to be hot women who also have a big dick but they seem to be the minority.
>>25371934How does that relate to a lack of popularity though? Are you illiterate? Those might be true statements but they don't relate
>>25371931There are several people here who don't like every story being FMC.
>>25371951>one anon who makes several posts*ftfy
>>25371951There's only one sperg spammer about it
>>25371949>How does that relate to a lack of popularity though? Are you illiterate?Yeah, why would futa-led harems not be more popular when all the futafags want to be bottoms, a real mystery.
>>25371463>Socially awkward FMCI didn't read it either.>>25371658>By the time it finishes it seems destined to be a better overall series than MoL.Looks like people don't really agree? I agree that MoL kind of fell off near the end, but the premise alone makes me less interested in this than MoL.
>>25371951A few vocal schizos in this general doesn't correlate to what succeeds on RR.
>>25371959Don't buy your premise, personally. But for the sake of the argument, why are futas as the harem members not popular? Futa as a fetish is massive so why doesnt it bleed into harem WNs in whatever manifestation?
>>25371962>Looks like people don't really agree?I agree with the claim and I have seen it said in other forums too.Also she's not really awkward? Less so than zorian, certainly
>>25371966It's popular with lgbt people who don't like male wish fulfillment, i.e. harems. And those who like harems don't like trannies/futas (don't bitch at me, it's westerners who conlfated the two by making futa sans balls and all that shit up). There is very little overlap between the fanbases.
>>25371973No, it is widely popular. Futa shit is everywhere
>>25371975>No, it is widely popular.No, it's not.>Futa shit is everywhereBecause lgbts don't have families so they spend all their time/money on getting their fetishes served.
>>25371966>Ask why thing is X>Is told several reason>No that's wrong, thing should not be XWhat do you want?
>>25371804>You yourself can quit RR for a week and you'll find the most popular romance focused books(male or female) will generally follow pic relatedYes, in the west. Maybe that's the reason why Japanese and Korean web novels dominate English ones?Can you think of any characters from modern English web novels or even traditional novels that are as known as Kirito and Asuna? There's Harry Potter from 20 years ago, but that's basically it. Dresden? Isn't that a city in Germany? What the fuck is a Kaladin? Carl from DCC maybe will get there one day. Other than those it's basically just stuff targeted at women that only women know.
>>25371962> the premise alone makes me less interested in this than MoL.Don't get me wrong, I rate MoL highly though I also agree it does drop off in the last third. However once YotA does it's big story reveal (there is still a literal world-ending Apocapyse to solve) it becomes something very different to MoL. I'm also a sucker for anything streampunk so it appeals to me in general.
>>25371982Huh? Does this board no longer support spoiler tags?
>>25371978I see it in straight places all the time and it gets pushed to the top by the algos. But if we can't agree that it's popular then this goes nowhere.>>25371979I disagreed with the reasons given. This is how discussion works anon. You don't just get a dumb reason and say "oh okay"
>>25371988>But if we can't agree that it's popular then this goes nowhere.Sure, anon. Your initial question was why futa-lead harems aren't popular but somehow the idea that futanari is just not that popular after all is unthinkable to you. What exactly do you base your perceived popularity of futashit on? Only porn, I bet. Okay, I'll grant you there are a bunch of non-lgbt people who just see "chick with dick instead of a guy fucking hot girls" and think it's fappable but those people do not want to read a story where the self-insert is a fucking futa if they even want to read at all.
>>25371986It's literally never been simpler to use spoiler tags. You just did it wrong.
>>25372000>Okay, I'll grant you there are a bunch of non-lgbt people who just see "chick with dick instead of a guy fucking hot girls" and think it's fappable but those people do not want to read a story where the self-insert is a fucking futa if they even want to read at all.Why would those audiences be fundamentally split? Why doesn't smut preferences carry over, or why would futa enjoyers not be readers fundamentally? This is the core question I am asking which remains unaddressed
>>25371982Works on my machine, unless it doesn't.Also even though I generally liked the world building in YOTA at some point the pacing just nose dived and no one feels like they have agency, probably somewhere around when they make it to the chink continent or so, most chapters start massively timeskipping.
The most popular story on all of scribblehub is a futa haremIt is popular
>>25372006I used ctrl+s If I'd made a typo you'd have seen the tags.
@scraperfagsWould you suggest something better than web2epub?
>>25371986Are you sure?>>25371982But are people going to get to that point if the premise doesn't appeal to them? The idea of a time loop is interesting to me in that I want to see what crazy stuff MC gets up to. The most interesting possibilities are power and debauchery, but if the MC is a woman then the debauchery option is off the table unless the MC happens to be a lesbian (yet again).When I read MoL one of the things that kept me intrigued was to find out whether he gets close to any of the women in the story. I'm not going to have that same feeling with a FMC. Add on that FMCs tend to be less proactive and the story would have to come much more heavily recommended for me to try it. And I don't think I'm alone in this.Would you recommend Years of the Apocalypse heavily?
thread looking like the epstein files all of a sudden
>>25372033Epstein was a futa?
>>25372007Easy answer, people will fap and forget to anything but they don't actually want a deep dive into the psychology of that shit.
>>25372039i meant that the spoiler tags looked like redactionsbut he did link to /gif/ and i think /d/ in his emails so it's not out of the question
>>25372041It doesn't have to be a deep dive into psychology? Most smutty harem stories aren't. They're as shallow and dopamine focused as they getYour responses are consistently dumb so I'll just end here
>>25372045>Your responses are consistently dumb so I'll just end hereOkay anon, good luck in whatever you do in life. Take care.
>>25372030You read 800k words in the hope the MC would eventually abuse the time loop to dick one of the side characters? I admire your perseverance when it was clear from the start it was a PG rated story - so is Years of the Apocalypse. If that's what you're after then stick to smut.
>>25372027>he doesn't manually hit Ctrl-S on every chapter as he reads, then later manually compile the HTML files in Notepad++ and make them into an EPUB file in Sigilngmi
>read words>feel emotionswhoa, this shit is crazy, how did we evolve to do that?
>>25372050It's not about reading smut, but about taking advantage of the possibilities. I did want to see the MC take a few loops off to relax, but that never properly happened. It could've though.
>>25372050It's fascinating how much of a disconnect there is between people like you who think it's all about fucking and other people who just love the idea of more intimate feelings between the mc and the love interests of their choice.
>>25372100>I did want to see the MC take a few loops off to relax, but that never properly happened.isn't that the point/appeal of time loop stories? to be exposed to both the inconsequential loops and the ones that are no brakes, 100% plot?seems like a huge missed opportunity if the protagonist has technically infinite time and only chooses to engage with the driver of the main plot
>>25371426It has a through line to getting published in Japan via their contests. That's about it though. I wish there was an equivalent for the South Korean and Chinese markets since I gel with their tastes more.
>>25372100Do any modern time-loop stories actually do this? Back in the day, Chunin Exam Day obviously did it. But I don't recall seeing any "vacation loops" on RoyalRoad.
>>25372082>>feel emotionsHow though?Nobody ever actually explains this.
>>25372121>
>>25371981To be clear, I'm talking about romance novels, not novels that happen to have romance subplots. I'd agree oversea novels are more popular, but that's more to do with the pipelines set up to turn indie novel into webcomics and anime imo. I'd imagine the adaption of DCC and Sanderson works will change that if the trend continues.
>>25372126No, but like... how?*sigh* guess I'm just not allowed to feel.
>>25372138>I'd imagine the adaption of DCC and Sanderson works will change that if the trend continues.Sure dungeon cuckold carl will turn the tides of westshit being reviled for being repulsive.
>>25372121You're feeling them, you're just not sure how to articulate or describe them. Trick I learned from extensive therapy as a profoundly autistic (Feelings autism) child: You just say the words that best describe parts of the feelings and you can start compiling those together. Once you've run out of words to describe them, you try and describe the feeling with those words to someone who's more in touch with their own and they can help tell you. If you don't have someone like that, AI's fine enough because of them being language models to do basic word-association.
>>25372142A pipeline between WNs and other media products will make WNs more popular, yes. If your too mind raped by reddit humor to see the bigger picture, idk what to tell you other than kill yourself
>>25372154>make WNs more popularnobodi want dis
>>25372107At no point in MoL is there any indication of a love interest. That anon was delusional.
>>25372160Delusional is going a bit far but it was obvious everyone in the loop except for MC and the other guy would end up being erased from existence, not a good premise for romance.
can love bloom on a battlefield?
>>25372180If love is a carnivorous plant monster, sure.
If Sky Pride taught me anything then it is that China was an awful place to live at practically all times.
>>25372319You... didn't know that already?
probably the last artwork I'll get for my story
>>25372373lick
>>25372373does she sleep with human men?
>all the translations I was following on scribblehub got fucking deletedWhat the fuckkk
>>25371804Nah. That’s just you, senpai. Your search results are a reflection of you.
>>25372663I'll admit, the image I posted was kind of stupid. I was using as a shorthand for the arguments I made last thread, because i didn't feel like typing them out again. That said, just reading the goodread reviews, it seems like what you're linking fits the point i made last thread one-to-one. People who seek romance novels generally prefer the fantasy of being pursued and the muscule mommy slop is just the logical extension of that.
>>25371338>start reading Best Rated + Best Ongoing super hit making tens of thousands on patreon>chapter 1 is charming>2 is okay>3-10 are mediocre, unfunny, and the whole story seems pointless and aimless at this point>11-20 absolutely nothing happens. Tons of inner monologue analyzing every tiny thing that happens or may happen>half the text of every chapter from the beginning are (mostly) pointless descriptions of facial expressions and room decorationThis makes me very optimistic about my own story. If trash like this can make it big, I should be able to make it BIGName of the story I'm roasting is Never Gonna Give you Up Never GonnaI'm not telling the name because I respect the author and I hope he/she succeeds, but these issues are real, and so is my critique. Maybe you can guess the story by yourselves?
>>25372779what a useless post
Man, reading the honeyfeed contest rules closer, they expect such specific things in such a specific way, the calculations involved just suck all joy and spontaneity out of writing. It's not even enough to just write this slop, how well you shill it on discord is evaluated too. As expected of soul-crushing bugmen and their contests
>>25372779This is the most reddit coded post I've ever seen here, and that's saying something. Why even bring up something that is in your own words trash and making thousands without saying what it is? And then playing cutesy with 'Teehee, you'll just have to guess it~'. If you have shit to say, just say it. There's literally nothing to gain by acting all coy unless you're the writer trying to discreetly shill.
>>25372779you didnt actually link the video so it doesnt countkids these days wont even get it
>>25372030>When I read MoL one of the things that kept me intrigued was to find out whether he gets close to any of the women in the story. I'm not going to have that same feeling with a FMC.I will be surprised if there any significant amount of outright straight fmcs on most webnovel sites. Isn't yuri basically the default romance for webnovel fmcs (for obvious reasons)?
>>25372788Oh damn, I didn't see the discord shit. I'll probably still submit my piece unless there's any weird copyright bullshit, but yeah guess I shouldn't get our hopes about winning
what's the worst name you've ever seen anyone give their protagonist
>>25372779If you're gonna try to text-flashbang someone you gotta make it something that you normally read like You just lost The Game
>>25372788>>25372813>Man, reading the honeyfeed contest rules closer, they expect such specific things in such a specific way, the calculations involved just suck all joy and spontaneity out of writingWell, yeah. This isn't just a contest for one story, but is also being used to scout talent. Hell, pic related is near the very top. They want people who can deliver what they want.>It's not even enough to just write this slop, how well you shill it on discord is evaluated tooThat's not really a requirement so much as them saying 'This is what will increase your chances'. The finalists and winners are to be determined by community members, so getting cozy with them helps you get your foot into the door.
>>25372910>KADOKAWA Corporation is a Japanese publisher known for releasing popular light novels such as Overlord, Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World-, The Rising of the Shield Hero, Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation, and Sword Art Online.I have literally never heard of those novels.
>>25372915Either you're not into Japanese stuff or your domicile is under a rock, because all of those are very mainstream
>>25371463It will get there. TWI is strugling as well and DCC did as well for the first two books. It's a different market with most readers having no idea RR is a thing. It will bubble up like the rest of the tops.
>>25372947>all of those are very mainstreamif they were, I would have heard of them.
>>25372947Fascinated by a web novel reader who's heard of ultimately kind of niche Chinese webnovels but not Sword Art Online or Overlord despite the fact a good chunk of contemporary Chinese WNs are direct reactions to Kawahara and Maruyama.
>>25372910Why don't they just scout the patreon and Amazon ones.
>>25372811>for obvious reasons?
>>25372999Most straight men usually don't like reading about female POVs lusting after men
>>25373025+1
>>25373025what about people playing femc h-games?
>>25373054There isn't really the emotional component like there would be in a WN, they're there to see femc acting slutty or getting raped. A better example would be smut, where straight femcs are more common.
>>25373054they are actively mindraping themselves to be troons
>>25373081+1
>>25372910>In the end, even novel writing depends on how good of a high school politics sociopath you areKILLING MYSELF KILLING MYSELF TODAY
>>25373054in fmc h-games you self insert as the cruel hand of fate that orchestrates the fall of a woman's purity into depraved promiscuity everyone knows this
>>25373090And when you do a virgin playthrough you are fate guiding your pure virgin waifu on a path toward yourself.
>>25373090web novel for this feel?
>>25373118>Reincarnated As The System In An H-Setting!?!?I'd read it
>>25372373Google thinks this is Mirko
>>25373125Sounds like it could be fun, actually. Kinda like Lewd Dungeon but on a grander scale. If I was writing it I would probably focus far too much on adding sexy accessories and outfits to my loot table.
>>25372788>>25372813>>25372910I didn't bother with Kadokawa for this specific reason.I want someone else to do marketing for me.
>>25373170Doesn't exist anymore
>>25372966Because this way they have more control over it and attract writers suited to their wheelhouse.>>25373170They presumably would. Why go through the effort of finding a quality writer, giving them a pretty decent prize, and publishing them in Japan with full LN illustrations if you aren't going to do even a bit of advertising?
RR/Patreon/Self Pub is so phenomenally favorable to the author, why would you go with a Japanese trad pubber?People are so determined to shoot themselves in the foot, I will never get it
>>25373183>Why go through the effort of finding a quality writer, giving them a pretty decent prize, and publishing them in Japan with full LN illustrations if you aren't going to do even a bit of advertising?First encounter with boomers?
>>25373267If you can afford to do both, do both.
>>25373274Not how that works
>>25371338So, I'm thinking of writing LIT RPG with Crusader Kings logic.
>>25373279It is though. You work on one project with one and a different one with the other. If your IQ is over 120 you can do two different creative projects at once. Pretty much every major name in any creative industry is working on up to four at a time right now and have been doing it for the past 80 years.You don't succeed by putting all your eggs in just one basket.
>>25373297Impressively retarded post
>>25373297nta but you need to look up what Right of First Refusal is.
>>25373306If it's retarded, and you can't refute it, that means you're even more retarded than me bud.I'm certain you just gotta keep doing more shoutouts bro. Just one more shoutout and you'll make the next Dungeon Crawler Carl.
>>25373310You have to be new as fuck to 4chan to engage with such obvious retardation, of course I refuse to take that post seriously
>>25373312Then why are you engaging with me, tardo?
>>25372779Just 0.5 bombed the whole Best Rated + Ongoing to catch whoever you're hiding.
>>25373313To call you a retard obviously.
>>25373149>Mirkovery strange.
>>25372855Ilea
>honeyfeed shill is schizophrenicWho would've guessed
>>25372915Then you have no business being on this website, you fucking zoomer tourist
>>25372910>outstanding storytelling talent>how faithfully you deliver the good ole hero's journey slop 1:1
If I already have 40000-50000 words of an unpublished slower story written that fits the honeyfeed contest prompt, is it worth adapting it (pretty much rewriting the premise from scratch) for a light novel audience? Or are these meme-tier contests that aren't worth pursuing?
>>25373346If you plan to throw the story online for free anyway, where's the harm in participating? But they're not looking for a slower story.>max 1,500-word chapters>every chapter must end in a hook and drive the plot forwardAre you doing that?
>>25373346I have only seen honeyfeed and its contests talked about hereI do not think it is something serious authors pursueIf you are an amateur with no real goals do whatever you want
>>25373349>If you plan to throw the story online for free anyway, where's the harm in participating?The only harm is that I wouldn't be able to publish it on RR for the duration of the contest, I guess>>max 1,500-word chapters>>every chapter must end in a hook and drive the plot forward>Are you doing that?Emphatically no. I hardly understand what a light novel is. I can barely even read.
>>25372910>KADOKAWA is seeking a new heroic Fantasy story following a heroine whose overwhelming power is contrasted by endearing flaws, or a hero who makes a comeback from the depths of despair.So female MC gets to be OP and quirky but male MC has to suffer in tragedy and despair? Sounds about right.>>25372951If you haven't heard of SAO then do you even read WNs, watch anime or play video games?
6k or 1.5k for RR?
>>25373364Seeing how Secrets of the Silent Witch was named as the inspiration for the prompt, it seems they're looking for something closer to romcom slop again than powertripping there.
>>25373394Rope for frogposters
>>253733946k every day until you die of aids. Sorry, anon. Only way to make it
>>25373364>So female MC gets to be OP and quirky but male MC has to suffer in tragedy and despair?These are the tropes people prefer yes. See MLA vs every revenge Isekai
>>25373420Coincidentally this is also why femc novels are always so bad.
>>253733941.5k is a good daily chapter lengthchink post rate (2x2k per day) is for chinks
>>25373456how do i chinkmaxx?
>>25373457AI
>>25373457constant self-repetition mostlyrepeating information, repeating the same mini plots over and over as filler for the greater plot, etc
>>25373457There's more than one chink writing each story
>>25373473>constant self-repetition mostly>repeating informationis this chinkmaxxing?
>>25373394>>25373456Just finish your story first. Doesn't need to be fully edited, you just need to ensure each chapter is 1.5~2.5K words, predominantly ending on cliffhangers. Have your "full story" at around 100~130K words to start (which means around 52~86 chapters). If you're interested in the business side of WNs and think this is a lot, you don't understand the business. If you think this isn't enough, congratulations, you have the business sense.Start posting what you have if you must, while filling out gaps in the material (timeskips or the like) with "mini-arcs". They don't need a real point or any narrative additions, especially if you start dropping the LONG ones in around Chapter 60 on.
>>25373517>100-130k for the first volume>first volume is a standalone that has a satisfying but open ending>this is so that you can poast that volume and see if it goes big>if it doesn't, you just wrap it up, put it on amazon, and try again>congratulations you are now true and real hack (affectionate)
>>25373544I have known this is the optimal tactic for 5+ years and I can't bring myself to do it, btw. Don't be like me.If you have to, if you are married to your story concept, just rehash the same thing over and over with different set dressing until it works. Worked for Ravensdagger.
>1.5k word chaptersAh I see anons also sabotage each other in /wng/. I though that was just an /agdg/ thing
>>25373554I use to bicker with the bad advice anon(s) but I gave up, they are here to stay and don't listen to reason
One of the RR cabal leaders already explained how to make it big. idk why we're still arguing about this https://www.reddit.com/r/royalroad/comments/1uamyvy/royal_road_mythbusting/
>>25373118The Erogamer
If your WN fails, finish it and then have it be part of your world in the next WN.Saves rent on worldbuilding when you can just casually reference events, places, and even characters from another story to fill up space.
>>25373554It's just my opinion. 2k is also a good length. 1k is the lowest practical length where people won't bitch in comments. Any longer... Well it depends on your schedule I suppose.
>>25373569willfully wrong retard
>>25373572Alright, look, I don't care if you disagree with me, just tell me, what do YOU think about chapter lengths?I don't mean that as a "haha fuck you gotcha" it's a completely genuine question. I want to know.
>>25373575I have done this and probably with you before, there is no point
>>25373576I don't recall at any point arguing about chapter lengths in this thread, actually. Other things yes, but not chapter lengths.
>>25373569>>25373572wrong
>>25373578Why did you pick 1500 words then? Where do you guys get that number?
>>25373581Bedivere is not God , he's not even an A tier author
>>25373554I only mentioned it because the honeyfeed contest expects that word count, but then anons started repeating it like mantra. It's too short for RR chapters
>>25373581I am >>25373569 and I think that image agrees with me. As I said, depends on your schedule.>>25373582Because 1k feels a little too short to me.1.5k and 2k are both good. Any more, I personally would chop it into smaller chapters.
>>25373582Dont make a chapter longer than 2000 or people get tired of the reading and might close the app or look at a second screen like a TV while reading your web novel and then never return to reading
>>25373584Honeywhat? I haven't been in this thread for a little while, so I genuinely don't know what that is.
>>25373586also note this is specifically RRfor actual published volumes I usually do anywhere between 3 and 6k
>>25373581Also he seems to be arguing that you don't need an insane output, I bet he would agree that tiny unsatisfying chapters are badIn either case you should derive beliefs from data, not whatever Mystic you choose to listen to that week. 1500 is in the bottom few percent of successful stories. 2000 to 2500 is the advisable starting point
>>25373581>the assistance it provides is negligibleBullshit. Of course being on the front page on 5-7 days a week is better than on 3 days or less. The growth rate drops distinctly if you slow down too soon and it'll drop you off the RS immediately
Any litrpg slop where the rpg element doesn't feel forced and inorganic? thanks[Lurker Level Up!]
>>25373581>"5k words a week">this somehow disproves the logic of 1.5k word chaptersTo hit 5K a week, you only need to put out roughly three chapters of around 1.5K words (inb4 "that's 4.5k", the point was AVERAGING with 1.5K being the bare minimum). If you're not doing at least three chapters a week, you're either making too much money to be posting in /wng/ still or you're lazy.
>>25373589I get that you're a retarded newfag, but are you really so inept that you can't even ctrl - F to keep up with the conversation, or google names you don't know?
>>25373456I post 2x3k per day...
>>25373596that is not how RS worksso many stupid retards in this thread that speak so confidently. it is so tiring
>>25373562>Rising Stars does not give you followers>It gives you 6-12 months of organic growth crammed into a 4 week windowIn other words, it gives you 12x more followers. What a fucking retard>How much your story grows organically during that time is entirely dependent onhow many people see it. What a complete pseud imbecile.
>>25373610>thing becomes popular>gradually starts attracting more and more of the lowest common denominator slugs spawned by humanitysaw /wng/ mentioned on /a/. explained a lot about the average post quality as of late
>>25373614he's saying that it accelerates your growth not that it manifests followers from thin air. there have been stories that bot their way onto RS and get like 5 followers over days before they are banned. some like MLA hit rising stars and start putting on hundreds per day. he is right, you tards just nitpick and take everything in bad faith
>>25373614>Completely misses pointI hope you don't plan on becoming an author if your theory of mind is this awful
this website began machine ai translating a lot of stories some of them are fucked but plenty of others are perfectly servicableseveral novels i was waiting on translations for I found there completedwtr-lab.com/en
>>25373610Your rise on RS is based on the increase in views/engagement/ratings in a set time window. The more of these you get, the relatively more you need to remain on the list. If you suddenly slow down releases from 5 chapters to 3 chapters or less, then you've effectively halved the numbers, even if the amount of readers per chapter stays the same or grows a little. Unless the story really blew up and is boosted off-site, you'll start dropping in a matter of days. I've spent two years watching this happen and have been on RS twice myself, don't tell me it's not happening.
>>25373619>he's saying that it accelerates your growth not that it manifests followers from thin airThink, anon, think. How does your growth accelerate, unless by gaining followers? It's like saying running ad campaigns doesn't give you followers, it "accelerates your growth." Beyond idiotic. That's what getting on RS effectively is, a free ad campaign.
>>25373630it does not work like that and I don't have the energy to argue. Just an endless flood of bullshit in this thread>but my appeal to authorityThen bedi mogs you (and so do I)
>>25373638he's assuming that a good story has a deterministic path in which those followers are inevitable regardless of the exposure it experiences, and that even without hitting RS a story would even out at the same amount of followers than if it had just at a slower ratewhich its own kind of retarded
>>25373640>I don't have the energy to argueBecause you're full of shit and have nothing to say
>>25373598Those are called fantasy stories.
>>25373644Guess so
>>25373643I think that's somewhat true for the top, top stories. They will get their audience eventuallyIt's certainly not true for the sloppy midlist
Imagine having a sperg battle over chapter wordcounts
>>25373669you are a womanthe issue is misinformation and bad advice and how the dumbest anons are loudestit's a lost fight though
Is Royalroad a no go to find haremsloppa to read?Outside of Avexiarembanana which I will eventually check out it seems barren of active stories
>he's a haremcuck and he wants to be spoonfedkek
>>25373681there's no better serial site for it if thats what you mean. but that niche is predominantly on amazon.
>>25373686Problem?
>>25371804Dumbass pic
>>25373696gay
>>25373691>but that niche is predominantly on amazon.Is there any way to search amazon so I know what to pirate?
Forget jade beauties what about the bronze beauties nawatamsayin?
>>25373704>gayNah. The wolfgirl has a giant cock and the human guy's a beta with a vagina.
>>25373711If you discuss novels self-published on the web (for example through Amazon), some newfag narcissist will take it as a personal attack.
>>25373711ask me, I send you to kino(what I like)
>>25373726You're the newfagWeb novels are serials. Self pub on Amazon is not serieals.
>>25373729I don't want kino. I want tag filtering.
>>25373267The appeal is access to a market you'd not be able to break into otherwise.>>25373344>>25373364Those are probably what sells best to each demographic. Women (and men who like FMCs) gravitate to OP quirk chunguses while Men eat up the 'I got fucked over and now I'm going to make it their problem' schtick.
>>25373731>Web novels are serials. Self pub on Amazon is not serieals.Web novel just means any novel length work originally posted online. While most are series, they don't have to be.
>>25373736>arguing with narcissists
>>25373733>'I got fucked over and now I'm going to make it their problem' schtick.novels for this feel?
Gooks keep killing access to my known pirate sites and sending DMCAs to repositories. Any site that's actually reliable?
>>25373736>>25373743You have /wg/ and /sffg/ and the entire rest of /lit/Fuck off
>>25373753nice try
>>25373763Is that AI? Lmao.
>>25373763>/wg/I shall not discuss books that I read in a writing general, as that would be off-topic.
>>25373767YesCan you prove it wrong? Surely you're smarter than it
25371894
>>25373773Good thing I also mentioned /sffg/ and the rest of /lit/. You're also free to make your own e-book/self-pub general.You shall not discuss e-books that you read in the web novel general, as that would be off-topic.
>>25373774>Can you prove it wrong?It says there's overlap, so I don't really need to, but why would I bother arguing with a hallucination presented as evidence of anything?
>>25373785The overlap is when web novels get edited and released on Amazon.Anything else faggot?
>>25373753fucknovelpia for now
>>25373786>The overlap is when web novels get edited and released on AmazonSo, to be clear, web novels don't have to be serials.
>>25371338>various personal author websitesOnly two updates in Peter Watts' Sunflowers Cycle over the past five years is a big BUMMER.https://www.rifters.com/crawl/?cat=57
>>25373788So to be clear e-books that weren't web novels first are off-topic in the web novel thread
Cradle is welcome here. Iron Prince too. But not Sandersnoy.You know a web novel when you see it. No, I don't give a shit about definitions, dweeb.
>>25373746Rising of the shield hero (Only early on though. It loses steam once the guy gets his revenge big time)Any of those novels where the MC is kicked out of the party in general. Though, most of those usually end up where the MC just goes on to live a better life and the party falls apart from incompetence which isn't really revenge.
>>25373797Wrong.>>25371620
>>25373797I do. The faggots trying to trojan horse e-books into /wng/ don't have good intentions for it.
>>25373800So complain when they bring up off-topic booksCradle belongs here, shall not change my mind, will continue talking about it and reccing
>>25373791>So to be clear e-books that weren't web novels first are off-topic in the web novel threadYes. Obviously. An electronic edition of something published in print originally would be off topic. Nobody is arguing that. We were discussing how web novels don't have to be serials, not how they don't have to start as web novels.Obviously all novels originally published online start as web novels. That's what a web novel is. Just ask web novel sites like webnovelfinder.com, or webnovel.com, or wikis like wikipedia.org, or wiktionary.org.
Simon would shit in Lindon's mouth.>>25373797Iron Prince was insultingly bad, "I watched one shounen anime and wrote a book" bad plus one of the authors is a reddit mod for prog fantasy and got into literal all-caps breakdowns when people were asking why the prog fant sub had a LGTV icon during June a few years back lol
>>25373815See >>25373726 >>25373691Amazon original e-books are offtopic
>>25373815>We were discussing how web novels don't have to be serialsIs that you tinatroon? Nobody else is this disingenuous on /lit/ and that's a tall bar
>>25373826Literally who?>Amazon original e-books are offtopicThis is web novel general. Why would web novels be off topic?Also, someone should really fix the OP. Web novels neither have to be serialized nor English.
>>25373818>Iron Prince was insultingly bad,Everything gets called insultingly bad on 4chan, it's just a boring response by this point
>>25373841I gave my initial reason why and you refused to acknowledge it. The book was like ticking off a checklist of common entry-level anime tropes, right down to the kind female friend dating the bully at the end.
>>25373845Bad cuz anime was not worth acknowledging
>>25373837This is some weird ass gatekeeping bullshit. Nobody needs to trojan horse jack shit. If I wanted to discuss an e-book, I'd just discuss an e-book, and there'd be fuck all you could do about it.
>>25373855Then do it
>>25373860Dungeon Crawler Carl is peak
>novelpia>chapters are free with ads>cant click them>next chapter just loads a blank webpage
What chapter are you working on, writers?What chapter are you reading, readers?
>>25373869Workinng on chapter 32 of A Game of Cosmic TitansAbout to start chapter 7 of book 1 part 2 of War and Peace, and going to read chapter 2 of Crow and Rabbit later.
>>25373868Literally just use fucknovelpia. Novelpia's web design makes the average mobile game look competent and user friendly.
Speaking of Novelpia, they must really be in a bad spot if they haven't gone through that creator boost fund. I swear they've had that up for a full year now. If their site was growing at any reasonable pace, they'd have gone through that by May at the latest. It almost makes me feel sorry for them. Almost.
>>25373912Even if they had and English user base they wouldn't get many good authors since they require ID and banking information even to get the partial payout for non-exclusives.I won't consider it all until they allow paypal business accounts.
When God names me emperor of the world my first decree will be the blood eagling of delyssabrook31
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>>25374088That spambot who makes AI comics out of WNs to try and scam retardsI've never fallen for it but the jeet behind it annoys me anyway
>>25373420You mean novels that fall off?
>>25373681The Storm King is also harem, but it's more like Chinese harem stories where it's not a central element everything revolves around.
>>25373763I consider them as part of WNs. They fit the same appeal as WNs do while other traditionally published novels do not. It's like anime fantasy vs traditional fantasy.
>>25374134Doesn't matter. Once we open the door for stuff like Cradle then you open the door for any random shit on Amazon.
>>25373869I'm stuck in editing hell for a book I wrote last year. I WISH I was just writing a new chapter instead but next month is going to be super extra crunchy. Too much stuff planned.Also my focus is completely shot from a super severe diet I'm on. Even caffeine isn't helping, and even with all the caffeine I'm drinking I pass out exhausted and sleep a healthy amount. Even ctrl-f'ing for typoes from a list someone sent me is torture.
>>25373420Was I wrong for making a female MC that suffers tragedy and despair?
>>25374152It sounds like you're outvoted honestly.
>>25374177If you say so
>>25373832The OP was changed to be only English WNs when the RI spammer was at peak activity and wng got banned as a result, to explicitly exclude reverend insanity
>>25368129>predicted tunnel jews a year in advance
>>25373089https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrxI_euTX4A
>>25371338Who else writes their novel on AO3? I mirror to scrub and RR but incentivize AO3 readers by posting chapter art there exclusively. I just like the tagging system much better
>>25374420how do your views compare on the 3 sites?
>>25374420I am pretty tempted to start posting a "director's cut" special edition of mine on ao3 in anticipation of the next volume starting. where It's mostly copy pasted 1:1 over but with the very small difference that I'll have my male mc more actively sexualizing all the various female characters,like their hugmonous boobs or titn-sized asses as thy jiggle and walk awy an his dep carnal desire to fondle/slap them. Gooner stuff of that nature. Maybe bonus porn chapter as a cherry on top.
I wish MCs in WNs were more aggressive. Too often it feels like the MC has to be understanding of the feelings of other characters. It's rarely ever the reverse. Anger and irritation are important feelings to show because they stop people from trying to push you around, but MCs are always accommodating others instead.I think this is why many MCs feel like they never stand up for themselves and why they're viewed as weak or "beta."
Does Shadow Slave do anything particularly well enough to warrant reading? I did enjoy LotM and RI but I have this sneaking suspicion that the western mentality is incompatible with the webnovel format and it will either lean too heavily into shounen anime tropes or 9th grade intro-to-philosophy tier grandstanding.
>>25374446If you have the lack of mental capacity to enjoy reverend insanity, you will love shadow slave.
>>25374446It mostly does world-building well, same as LotM I guess. It's not really shounen and it has more Russian misery writing than philosophy. I wouldn't consider anything Russian to be western (or anything SA, MENA, Indian or SEA either).
>>25374455I see, thanks. Maybe I'll give it a shot. I'll temper my expectations going in and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
>>25374422I get far more comments and views on AO3 than anywhere else, and I feel like they're more insightful. Maybe it's because I also write smut there, so YMMV
>>25374429Tbh that sounds lame as fuck and a poor use of your time writing. If you want to write smut you should actually put in effort to make it good and heartfeltPersonally I separate the smut and the main story, I like to give the characters/couple their privacy, and having the filth be dubiously canon frees me up to do more fun AUs or character swaps and such
>>25374502when i wrote a non-smut fanfiction I got a ton of praise on AO3. People there seem way more interested in interacting with authors.
>>25374511I started out by writing fanfiction and then pivoted to original work and same. People seem so much more likely to leave a comment and I've had several comment chains from interacting there.Only downside of AO3 is the inability to link your patreon or similar directly. That's not an issue for me because I don't expect any payment but I can see how that could be a sticking point
Can I get a sentient MC with a functioning brain that doesnt just stumble from situation to situation?Have drive, make plans, talk to people.Buy that high level veteran a beer and ask for skill recommendations.Magic shop? Maybe get more than 1 skill book.Make a proper build.Convenient dungeon in the middle of the city with endless loot and xp? Maybe do more than 1 run?City full of adventurers? Maybe dont go solo?Bring a healer, find mates with synergies that compliment your class.You are a divine smith now? Make more than 1 sword?OP godlike cheat with endless potential? Use it longer than the first week?Im positively gaping for recommendations.
>>25374538>Buy that high level veteran a beer and ask for skill recommendations.booooooring
I just want it on the record that "constellation" in Korean fiction used to refer to higher beings should be getting translated as "celestial" and every fucking translator that uses "constellation" instead should be sent to live on an uninhabited island away from civilized society where they can do less harm.I literally do not care the Korean word is literally the same as their word for constellation. They're using it with a different definition in mind when they refer to higher beings. English already has a fucking word both relating to stars that can refer to higher beings. It's fucking celestial. Stop fucking overcomplicating shit and go fuck yourself!And if you're an English author stealing the trope. Go double fuck yourself!!!
>>25374538>OP godlike cheat with endless potential? Use it longer than the first week?I cannot believe I at one point wasted precious time in my life reading Death March.
>>25374538>Can I get a sentient MC with a functioning brain that doesnt just stumble from situation to situation?>Im positively gaping for recommendations.Second Round Hypnotic Breeding Who Doesn’t Hide His Abilities.I appreciate the title sounds like porn, but it isn't actually porn.
>>25374562There is literally nothing wrong with Death March as a cooking series.
>spacebattles changed their UISTOP DOING THIS. YOU DUMBFUCKS THE OLD STUFF WORKS FINE STOP CHANGING YOUR SITES UI FOR NO FUCKING REASON AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Discoverability really is terrible these days. When you look at the recent releases list, almost everything has 0-5 followers and no ratings. An endless stream of trash to no audience
>every day posters complain: WISH MCS WERE MORE LIKE THIS AND THIS>my MC is exactly like that>nobody ever talks about my work
>>25374559>celestial>englishFuck off with your Norman propaganda. Celestial wasn’t even supposed to be a noun.The Anglo term is heavenly being/bodies
>>25374599I would use sidereal, simply because I like it as a word
>>25374593post it, coward. (legit I actually need more stories to binge)
>>25374593have you tried actually telling people about it, crazy i know>>25374582i hate this fucking disease so much its unrealgenuine makework for people who didnt have anything better to do
>>25374606>>25374606The air whipped around the courtyard as the Side-Constellation landed, lips curled into a grin."Mortals," he spat, "which of you is in charge?"A voice whispered next to the the Side-Constellation's ear: "That would be me."The smug expression morphed into fear on the Side-Constellation's face. "S-sir Real-Constellation. T-this one is h-here to s-serve."
>>25374606Same, I use this and tropical in my cosmic hierarchy, to describe higher beings that are more-or-less comprehensible
I've listened to the audiobook of Manifest Fantasy by DrDoritosMD.It's basically Stargate but instead of being a boring soap opera it's America bringing freedom to magic cucks by way of apache attack helicopters.
>>25374599>The Anglo term is heavenly being/bodiesUsing a compound noun when a single noun would suffice is stupid.Also, heavenly being doesn't imply a connection to stars, and heavenly body isn't generally used to refer to a class of higher beings.Also, anything can be a noun.Also, not all celestials are "heavenly".
>Ran out of my ridiculously stacked bulk chapters as of last night due being in the hospital with a collapsed lung for a couple weeks>Have to write chapter today, literally just 2500 words>10 hours left>Have written 200 words totalI'm fucked
>>25374559It made sense in Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint, where the gook constellations are grouped with western mythological entities who ARE literally constellations. But then everyone and their dog started to use the term even in contexts where it doesn't fit.
>>25374746If you actually have a collapsed lung and aren't trying to pity beg, just tell your readers. It's that easy.
>>25374446it has some edgy cringe in the first few dozen chapters here and there, but it gets good relatively soon. Kinda looks like op mc slop in the very start as well though but it's not really. World building is great and power system is cool, and the very first major arc is considered the best by most so why not give it a try
>>25374171my favorite kind of mc, if it's done right
What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?
>>25374559ORV does this and it was really confusing when I was listening to the audiobook at first. They also use goblin in a weird way that frankly should have been a different word. So the translation overall is kind of bad, but it matches the quality of the story itself (kind of bad), so whatever. It kills time on long drives.
>>25374171m*les writing about female suffering are cringe as fuck
>>25375147nah it's kino
>one whole paragraph about the big doggo licking and drooling pupper-slobber all over the MC's faceDo dog people have no social awareness?
>>25373763/sffg/ is currently in the worst state of its entire existence. Fuck you.
>>25373869>What chapter are you working on, writers?Embarrassed and emasculated MC gets rescued by teenage girl and hangs out with her while his injury is healing.She also teaches him a new trick with the power of autism.
>>25374582i like it. works on my machine!
>got positive feedback on a chapter>inspired to actually try writing something good even though I'm trying to rush>spend all day today outlining and trying to make the plot move instead of just slopping out a chapterUgh. I know this is good in the long run but I have no energy for this shit right now. I need backlog.Character drama is so much easier to write than plot advancement.
>>25375191So what? So is Somalia. Still don't want Somalians in my country
>>25375219Will she be a part of his harem?
>write one chapter for the main story>do another five for the mostly unrelated spinoff prequel that won't be put up until the main story is done
>>25375124ORV is bizarre because you're meant to think of that one dude as the protagonist with amazing character who's just that cool but he's just pure glaze and nothing of substance.
Shit I caught up with Saving the school, any other anime but good stories?
FELLOW DAOISTS>*clangs head against the ground in three consecutive tonal rhythms*My web2epub cultivation manual is... lacking. This Young Junior requests an art befitting of a humble one who has reached the next paltry level in dao deificaiton.
>>25375147at least it exists, unlike the inverse
>>25375548Fifty Shades of Grey portrays male suffering more compellingly than you could ever
I am almost finished with Sky Pride and I am not at all looking forward to reading this as a /serialization/.
>>25375584Just wait a year then
>>25375584Sky Pride? More like Sky Pride Month.
>>25375328She's his orbiter. I don't know if my story can be called a harem.It's more of an autistic daughterwife, with more pressure on daughter than wife.
>>25374170>Even caffeine isn't helpingtry ashwagandha
I think I might have gone too far in one direction with a morally ambiguous character. I've got commenters rallying to kill them. Gonna be fun working out how to properly rehabilitate them.
>>25375867I felt like I was dying and then had an extra 170kcal and felt way better twenty minutes later so I think I'm just straddling the line of dying slowly and dying fastly.I can almost see my abs though it's fucking sickCaffeine consumed today: 800mgChapters written today: 0Outline words written: 1300I'm just gonna schedule tomorrow's chappy and then go to bed. Tomorrow for sure I will actually write a chapter! And finish my fucking manuscript that's now four days late!
after three months of struggling I think my story is finally starting to take off. RoyalRoad and ScribbleHub have unburied it from search results so it's easier to find now.
>>25376189Your heart is unironically going to get damaged if you keep going that hard into the caffeine man. Please don't do yourself in decades early to squeeze out a bigger word count.
