Will it be good or will the reboot change shit?
Good? Can't say, I hope soWill it change things? Absolutely, there is no way they will keep the original story. Even with how it looks, it seem to be a Grendizer aimed at a new audience, not at the old OG fans
>>22707917I'd like it to be good. It probably won't be boring at any rate. I expect the threads to be absolutely dreadful though.
>>22707987Why
nigga at least wait until the fucking thing comes out ffs
>>22707917Have you done as much as look at ANY of the marketing? This is going full re-imagining with the plot.
>>22708130QRD
>>22707917>reboot change shit?My brother in christ, this is a dynamic production show. Nagai can make mazinger a normal robot in one story, in another be related to zeus and greek gods, in another be a god from another world and in another, be a power armor to fight shit on mars (or another dimension). Expecting a 1:1 remake is foolish to say the least.
>>22708213Are you new?
>>22708213Fukuda did Cross Ange and Gundam Seedookuchi did Code Geass and G-Witch.I suppose that should be enough to explain why threads will be a shitfest.
>>22708221Luckily there'll be no yuri
>>22708283Is that Arab or Paris?
>>22708290Mexico
>>22708373Or possibly Peru
>>22707917With how little love the Mecha genre has been getting recently. I'm quite glad we are getting this show.
>>22708452>and Rayearth is getting a reboot.They probably won't get to the mecha half fora while.
>>22708441>Grendizer U takes place in every single part of the world except for East Asia
>>22708458>Grendizier U is actually an adventure animeI demand a fight in the Colleseum in Rome.
>>22707920I really hope Mazinger doesn't get permanently destroyed. Shit was sad enough back in Mazinkaiser.
>>22707920I'd assume Tetsuya would make a guest appearance, yes?
>>22708484This is assuming Great Mazinger happened here. For all we know, they beat Dr. Hell and nothing else happened until Grendizer appeared.
Seeing Fukuda is working on this, which female character is going to get raped?
>>22708484Shut up.
>>22708510Hot.
With SEED man being involved, I'm waiting for some NTR
>>22709217Is this >>22708283 enough?
>>22709231>Koji stealing Daisuke-san from RubinaWell, she'll likely die anyway.
>>22707917it's gonna suck and fuck
>any piece of media: *has friends of the same gender*>zoomers: "DUDE THEY ARE GAY AND BOY/GIRLFRIENDS 100% CANON!!!"why are you like this?
>>22710077I'm talking about doing it behind Sayaka's back
>>22710249Well, I don't think we know if they are actually going out in DizerU yet, meaning it might be not cheating.
>>22710170Don't act like zoomers invented this type of shit
>>22710775Anon’s just following along the so called “generational culture war” bs, just ignore him which isn’t anything unique either
>>22709217Did Dendoh have NTR?
>>22710170It's because they never had a real friendship, so they can see people spending healthy time together as anything but sex related
>no news where this is going to stream in the WestIt's over.
>>22710893Wasn't this bankrolled by Arabs? I bet it'll air at least there + France and Italy (maybe Spain and the Latin American countries, but I don't think they care about anything from the Mazinverse that isn't Mazinger).North America will probably get it because of Quebec, since Goldorak was big there too.
>>22708221>forgetting Okouchi's other major shitposting magnetSHOUKO WON THE ELECTION, SAKI WON THE ERECTION
>>22710893Pretty sure it was confirmed Amazon Prime is hosting it. Crunchyroll has posted about it as well iirc.
>>22711098Only in JP for now iirc.
It better have a lovingly rendered scene of Duke crying like a bitch
>>22710976But what did ERU ERUFU win?
>>22708484Tetsuya's probably going to be memory holed with Banta and any other irrelevant people
>>22708484At best you're gunna get Great Mazinger being hijacked like in that one movie.
The better question.Will it have fatso?
>>22710170People has been shipping Koji/Duke before you were born
Anyone has the links for Gosaku Ota's Grendizer?
CR just announced their remaining titles this season, and no Grendizer U in sight
>>22711291I thought it was confirmed
>>22707917Oh… https://x.com/mangamogurare/status/1808747392230928520?s=46«In a recent interview with Go Nagai, "Grendizer U" chief director Mitsuo Fukuda said one thing he wanted to change in the reboot was the tragic nature of the original 70s anime.Due to recent tragedies like wars & natural disasters, he wanted to make a show that's more uplifting and full of hope. He says that works that are too grim really don't have a place in our current world.While Fukuda does appreciate the writing of the Toei version, he says having characters die one after another doesn't fit with current times.»
>>22711628>Hopeful>People are still shown dying in the trailer>Duke is still crying, looking depressed and tell Kouji to kill him if necessaryFucking Fukuda
>>22707917Is it U like UFO?
>>22710909It's amazing that Goldorak's managed to endure the march of time and the official title for this in French is Goldorak U. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIhVDS8McjwWhat's the secret behind that localization working while others were forgotten?
>>22711650Frog here, Goldorak is extremely beloved by older generations, my uncle is a big fan and my mother still know the opening (she prefered Harlock/Albator though), and also got many rerun from the early 80s to the 90s. This lead to pretty much everyone knowing about it, even if just by name.It might also be THE anime that lead to the anime/manga boom in France (though the country already had japonisme, it was for the general culture)
>>22711641>>22711628Based on the actual interview text, it seems his intention is to make the message of the story more uplifting and hopeful. Presumably that means less death, not zero death though.Also, it sounds like elements from the Great Battle of the Flying Saucers will be included too.
>>22711682It's only 13 episodes so we probably won't get most sutff
>>22711683>just 13Please noI'm begging you please more than that
>>22711809Perfect example that modern anime is doomed
>>22711650Are they keeping the French names like Actarus and Alcor too?
>>22711836> doomedreduce useless resource for the sake of the planet
>>22711809No, I will fight against evil.
so who's subbing this?
>>22711857I thought Koji was the sub
>>22707917It will be bad
>>22711859Checks out.
>>22711809Can't it be 24 episodes?
>>22711899Remained a housewife even when Nagai made the 2022 remake
>>22711861It will be fun, at the very least.
>>22711682>>22711628That mean they won't follow the Ota manga
>>22711906That'll do, pig.
>>22711938Doesn't this end with everyone dying except Koji, Hikaru, and Emperor Vega?
>>22711945>that entire bit, and especially that last bitWhat the fuck?
>>22711641Fukuda has never told a lie or misled anyone before in his entire life
>>22711987I don't care, if your conscience stirs at the sight of evil, it's your job to stand up to it, regardless of how strong the foe is.
>>22712027Thank you, let's try to be braver people this year but also (re)read Shin Mazinger Zero, the bravest Mazinger story.
>>22710170That's just a combination of shipfag culture, evolved from what we had 2 decades ago, combined with the ascension of queer people who are seeking self-insert in these modern times and representation, and as result they seek to downplay or devalue friendships only for their wish fullfilment of these ships. >>22710779I wouldn't say is cultural war, I do say there is some culture shock as new audiences enter into a new hobby/space, and seek to modify everything to suit their wants. The "culture war" ghost appears when they start policing what is right or what is not.
Ok, real talk here. How popular is Grendizer U in among arabs/the middle east? Is popular enough that if the anime flops there is gonna be more violence or that statement was just a joke?
>>22712085I mean, if the anime has wrapped production there's not a whole lot that can be done at this point. I think people are reading too far into Fukuda's statement generally.
>>22712039Shin Mazinger ZERO is unironically the best Mazinger series
>>22712165I didn't like the follow up as much. The Meta shit is cute but that kind of stuff isn't something I ever like to go back and reread.
>>22711682Yeah, they split Rubina into two sisters after all and made one have Terona's name.
>>22712377And they swapped designs.
>>22712385I like this homage, wonder if grendizer’s original look from battle of the flying saucers will show up as a background prototype machine
>>22712165filthy coomer hands typed this
>>22711809>>22711836>>22711987Ever since Gundam stopped being 50 episodes long, it's the day anime died.
>>22711795They could do 2nd cour
>>22712385I wonder if this design swap is just because or if it's a hint to a twist in the show like being switched at birth or trading identities?
>>22712021>>22712021As long as you don't suddenly tell people to watch modern donghua garbage or reading modern Manhwa trash you are right track anon. Misleading people into walking towards hell by taking advantage of the situation is very evil
>>22712476What i'm trying to say is some people will promise you that things would be so much better there whenever someone complain about modern anime only for the opposite to happen when you actually look at their current day media. I admit that i once fell for those lies because i love old Hongkong Wuxia Manhua and Shin Angyo Onshi
>>22712451They say in the profiles how Rubina's the one acting as princess, while Teronna's the one to fight.
>>22712416It was going on since before that. Both Jeeg and Dancouga Nova were 13 episodes. Only Gaiking managed to get any longer.
>>22712476They unironically fell off even harder than Japshit and this is coming from a guy who watch a lot of old HK films and read B&W Manhwa
I wonder how Kouji becomes a rich CEO to begin with
>>22712953Cashing in on his grandpa's patents and making good investments, I'd imagine.
>>22707917The guys look like a couple of fuckbois. It's absolute garbage already.
When it's out again? Tonight?And nobody picked up this show for subs to release immediately, right?
>>22713024They are going to stream it through YT?Any chance of it having international subs?
>>22713034>Any chance of it having international subs?0Enjoy Arabic subs from Shahid TV.
>>22712165>>22712171>Zero ends very positively and is probably the best ending to a Mazinger series>Zero Vs gives us Tetsuya and Great, and actual Zero, as well as a very meta thank you to Go NagaiI can just reread one of the fake-out epilogues and pretend that the aftermath of Vs was that we got a peaceful world for Koji, Sayaka, and the others, literally a single epilogue chapter for Vs would make it a 10/10. I'll still reread all of it now and then, but do wish the final ending was closure rather than meta. But yeah, it might literally be the best series.>>22712449>>22712458We just have to both hope and fight for the best.
>>22713034Probably no since the producer is some arabian oil prince
Ten minutes to dizer go or something.
it startedhttps://mov3.co/en/tvtokyo/
>desert>girl wears the burqaNice start.
>Mechanical Beasts are still around
Is it subbed.
>Sayaka is the dedicated Double Spazer pilotYeah, Mazinger stays alive in this one.RIP girl robots appreciators
>>22713634She looks kind of cute in it i'll admit
Defeat infidel aliens in the name of Allah.
>>22713634Got pic?
>>22713662absolutely halal
>>22713639>Yeah, Mazinger stays alive in this one.Spoke too soon.That said, might be recoverable.
Feels rushed.
Aside from taking place in Saudiland and Kouji being some kinda Japanese Lawrence of Arabia-esque figure it's what you would expect from a modern Grendizer show. Plot is about alien princess anyway and they will speedrun it judging by the pacing and multiple bosses per episode.Robot fights are competent mix of 2d and 3d but not particularly inspired.
This show feels like it was supposed to be released in 2011
>>22713690If it was released in 2011, events of this episode will be spread across two. It does try to emulate old super robot shows more than I thought it would, so far.
>>22713747The obvious spam on all the dynamic pro threads getting deleted? I call that an improvement.
>>22713754Your post is more of a spam than the ones that got deleted.
>>22713767>a spam
anyone subbing?
>>22713782it'll probably get day 1 arab subs
anyone subbing in english?
>>22713788Inglese?? You mean Italian?
Seems weird that they went out of their way to put the PVs out in so many languages, but then didn't bother to set up any multi language subs or any non-Japanese streaming options.
I bet you a billion bucks they delayed the english release because of a dub.
rawhttps://nyaa.si/view/1841759
>>22713791The exact same thing happened with Girls Band Cry last season, except that at least got several fansub groups on it immediately.
>>22713806That series was picked up by French streaming services, so it was easier to translate for fansubbers.
Anyone uploading on Mega or somewhere else?
>>22713812Surely Grendizer is gonna get official french subs too, right?
Could potentially be like Brave Bang Bravern where CR didn't pick it up immediately for whatever reason. then dumped a small batch of subbed eps.
Hmm, the first half is really bad. Awful character animation, awkward jumps, and generally unnatural character moments. This feels like something the producer requested and they can't do anything but comply.Glad it picks up in the second half though.
>>22713829It's probably another subcontract job where talking scenes and mecha scenes are done by different studios and mecha got the push.
Full song for the ED's been up a while. Hopefully we can watch the subbed episode soon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knnw6Mri9gc
Cool and sexy Sayaka-san
>>22713840Yeah this is only like the 10th time you post about it.
>>22713867It was never posted in this thread, schizo-kunhttps://desuarchive.org/m/thread/22707917/
>>22713872You know damn well what I meant.
>>22713879I was responding to one of that anon's posts when all his posts were deleted but God forbid any anon posts any interesting video for other people, it's surely always the same person, no I really don't know what you meant you fucking schizo.
>>22713324Yeah, if we had an epilogue to ZERO vs I'd probably like it as much as the OG, but in general I think the duology is pure Mazinger greatness.
>>22713889Yeah. The only faults I'd give it is not giving us a final epilogue, and that the early bit might put some readers off and make them think it was an edgefest, but the latter's moreso an issue of whether people are willing to finish reading one volume before judging. And for the former, I get why the meta-ending would just have to end where it did for that final feeling. Presumably with ZERO letting go, there's a whole myriad of happy Mazinger universes, such that any joyful conclusion we can think of would exist in one of them.ZERO vs is also a great (heh) treat to Tetsuya fans as well, only on my first reread did I catch the sheer bounty of Tetsuya and Great moments. If anyone was a Tetsuya/Great fan that was disappointed by other works, they'd probably be eating well for most of their lives after reading ZERO vs.>the duology is pure Mazinger greatness.It's absolutely not the first thing I'd point someone to for Mazinger, but it's definitely the peak of Mazinger content that everyone on /m/ should read at some point in their lives.
>English sub only available on UAE region
>[Almighty] Grendizer U - 01 [1080p].mkv
>>22713942The subs from that are up, at least.
The cutest Koji yet.
>>22713942Inshallah.
>>22713866She took off her hijab, complete degen
>>22713980nah
An english translation cropped up, but it's so awkward. Hope a group picks this up.
>>22713992What’s awkward about it?
yepremakes are shit and modern anime is genuine trash and this episode confirmed it
>>22714001Stilted, many english words are mangled up and certain bits were just straight up wrong. Felt almost like early machine translation.
>>22714001On top of what >>22714012 said the timing is slightly off. The subs are serviceable but far from perfect.
>>22714012Also, that first half is rough. Way too many sequences and most were unnecessary. Also, some animated bits are just weird, like the horse riding sequence. Really hoping the rest of the show isn't like this.
>>22714012>Felt almost like early machine translation.It most certainly was.
So far, it's much better than the original.
>>22714001Mistakes and jumps from being overly literal to overadaptations.Here, besides the obvious typo the word "Foundation" was skipped.
Where can I watch episode? Bonus points if it has English subtitles.
>>22714023You're better off waiting. Trust me.
Seeing Mazinger job for Grendizer was pretty lame. I was hoping we'd get a cool teamupI know it's only the first episode, but it's not a great precedent to set. Especially with how they're setting up Grendizer as the thing that destroyed planet Vega or whatever. There's no need to wank it that much>>22713834Even the mecha battles felt weak, especially with the special attacks really failing to convey any sense of impact. Those two saucer beasts that got hit with space thunder just poofed out of existence when really we should have had big BOOM
>UAP Robo Grendizer>Dr. Hell is still around and so are his mechanical beasts>Koji really did cash in on his grandpa's patents>Animation is rough>Music is breddy gudThese subs are pretty bad, but still decent enough. Nice to know there are some surprises. Wonder if we'll get a proper Dr. Hell/Vega team-up.
>>22714020I don't know what machine translation tool would transform "good boy" into "a beautiful and sweet stallion" and miss "今日も" entirely.It could as well be guess subs.
>>22713991That's a Koji classic. Though this scene was even cuter in the manga.That's not quite the type of "cute" that I meant though.
>>22714031seems accurate to me
This could've been a great place for a Jeeg reference.
>>22714051Yeah, I was expecting some kinda easter egg on the list of racers there.
>autists already complaining about the most minimal shitThese threads are going to be a pain with how autistic mazinggers are.
>>22714055To complain about autism on /m/ is peak newfaggotry.
Doublas M2 my beloved. It was good even with the shitty looking humans. The robots looked good and the ost and op/ed are fucking great. We even got some heroic Mazinger Z moments before he got btfo. I had 0 faith in ahaina but this might be decent.
>>22714063Gaina*
>>22714016I was going to complain about the timing too, but I'm not sure whether that's Shahid's fault or if the person who ripped it messed something up on their end. Aside from that, the only things that bother me are the lack of typesetting and their refusal to use periods at the end of a sentence. I've seen far worse subs than this, honestly.
>OP isn't a remix of old oneOne job.
>>22714074This is not cutie honey.
is it true that Grace's artist works for the Taimanin games?
Wtf, Okouchi is writing this? I guess oilbux really can buy anything.
>>22714067People are complaining because they've never had to watch crabsticks. It's fucking shameful.
>none of the onscreen text was translated
>>22714082They removed text from the japanese version on the arab version.
>>22714067Yeah, I've had worse and can deal with these if I must but I still hope we get something better.
>>22714076*CuteyAlso this streak got ruined by Universe.
>>22714092*Kyūtī
I wish I was a rich oil baron who could fund an entire anime...
>>22714097Or snk fighting games.
when is best girl apearing?
>>22713942Sigh, looks like I will have to resub again middle of this month...
Wich random Go Nagai character will be part of the main gang in the late game and help win the fight?
>>22714111Kabuto Koji
why is Sayaka so fucking hot Jesus Christ
>>22714111Cutie Honey
I liked Sayaka's personality here. She had some fun banter with Kouji.Also, the scenes with the Mazinger Z in the opening aside from the final still shot with the entire cast were all footage from the episode, it seems like they will be replaced by something else sooner or later.
>>22714120>it seems like they will be replaced by something else sooner or laternot always
I can't believe there aren't streaming services picking Grendizer. Mazinger is huge everywhere except burgerland
>>22714128The old japanese super robots look super fucking lame. Lame as all shit.
>>22714128I can't believe zoomers expect day one subs from every single show.
>>22714128Puños fuera!
>>22714128Arabs probably pay for exclusive rights for few days. Same how Grendizer game arrives in Arabic and French before Japanese.
>>22714111Fatso if they have any sense
>>22714138>exclusive rightsMore like they funded the entire thing and streaming services don't care about robots.
>>22714116>Jesus ChristSorry but we are IslamCHADS here.
>>22714116Sayaka is always hot.
when will Jeeg arrive to combined with Fleed
>>22714147
>>22714144>and streaming services don't care about robots
>>22714111Getter
>>22714153They don't, except if it's fujobait or moeshit. Grendizer fall into fujobait but like it's too old, distributors don't realize it
>>22714082>>22714153Kill yourself avatarfag.
>>22714154But only if it's G or Go.
So, are the subs good enough or should we wait?
>>22714216No they suck. Basically MTL tier. Although I have to wonder if fansubbers will even bother with this.
>>22714223Yes but not english ones.
>>22714223Pay up or shut up.
>>22714162Make it Toei anime Go specifically.
>>22714216For the 13 or so episodes this supposedly is, it's acceptable until either a fansub or an official English BD release comes out.
>>22714266>For the 13 or so episodes this supposedly isWhy should series length matter?
>>22714271Less time to wait for a complete batch if a fansub group wants to do it from scratch I guess. Now that you bring it up though it does appear I was grasping arbitrarily. Just throwing darts in the dark.
https://nyaa.si/view/1841834Subs are pretty rough.
This Sayaka somehow doesn't look glaringly off, once we see her interacting with Koji, she's very pretty and I want her to lovingly spit in my mouth.
>>22714029I thought the action part is okay, maybe I'm just starved for mecha action and this is at least better than getter arc. The part where grendizer zapped the enemies out of existence is pretty cool to me, it shows just how overpowered it is.
>>22714055If you call this complaining, go to any new game thread on /v/
Proper English subtitles just came out now.
Prince Daud Al Fareed
>>22714483I wouldn't say "proper," they're MTL from the same person/group that did the shitty MTL speedsubs for Girls Band Cry. That being said, these actually seem alright at first glance, and they even typeset the stuff that Shahid didn't bother with.
Rate Grendizer U's first episode.
>>227145057/10, there are awkward character interactions and jumps but overall it's fine
>>22714505Gonzo/10
>>22714505Booooo
>>22714111Dr. Hell and his mechabeast army.
>>22713829>>22713834Well at least it isn't GR Arc
>>22714499We're talking about a mecha anime that originally came out in 1975. This is as proper as it's going to get. That said, now it's clearer that Dr. Hell isn't alive and that the remnants of the desert are most likely a terrorist faction with no connection to Hell or Brocken (in Ota Brocken had an army in the desert, or so they say) but for nostalgia reasons they have a copy of Doublas and who knows what other mechabeasts. I don't know Japanese, but Yumi says "Hell", not Dr. Hell, plus Doublas doesn't have his real weapons. That energy rope was supposed to be a beam. We'll see what this means for Mazinger appearances moving forward.
>>22714145Why is Sayaka so fucking hot ʿĪsā ibn Maryam
>>22714505This mazinger looks even more KWAB'd than he was in Mazinkaiser
>>22714567I actually liked the way it went out here. Kouji actually got to show some skills even while clearly underpowered.I guess the big question is what will replace it since all Mazinger Z shots in the opening are probably placeholders with episode 1 footage.
>>22714563Why is Sayaka wearing hijab? Did she convert to muslim?
huh, they actually got Glay sing the OP for this anime. I'm impressed. That's a band I haven't heard for a long ass time
>>22714597Why the hell did you change languages mid-post?
>>22714584Desert scene, it's mandatory. She's an idol now with that hair.
Can I watch it with English subs yet?
>>22714603So, Sayaka is Ai Hoshino now?
>>22714637He just means she looks pretty. She's still an action girl working with the Anti-Hell forces.
How many episodes this series gonna have? 12? 24? 50?
No idea why Sayaka's hair is blue or how Duke teleported on the Grendizer, otherwise I can tell this is going to be epic win. Did not expect Doublas M2 to show up.
>>22714699>Sayaka's hair is blueit's just stylized blacknow why it's black instead of brown I can't tell you
>>22714699
>>22714699>>22714710Doublas M2 is the best part of the entire Mazinger-esque franchise.
I'm thinking this new stuff about Duke causing some tragedy back at his home planet and him calling Grendizer a weapon will lead into Koji giving him the old God or Devil talk.
So how old are Koji and Duke in this series?
>>22714773>MazingerGod or devil>Mazinkaiserexceeding a god or conquering a devilWhat does Grendizer do?
>>22714788I give kouji around early 20
>>22714816>What does Grendizer do?cry
Imagine if Koji and Maria ended up actually getting together in this anime, cucking Sayaka in the process.
>>22714838Imagine if your mother loved you
>>22714841calm down, Sayaka
>>22714841Imagine if you had a father figure present in your life.
>>22714838Maria had the chance and she blew it
>>22714816Jannah or Naar
>>22714850Maybe Grendizer U is the AU where she doesn't fumble the Kojibowl. You never know until it happens.
There is something sinister about U's Sayaka, especially in the OP
>>22714855>Cool looking serious pose is sinisterYou retards are going to be like this whole season, aren't you?
hilarious how in-your-face they are about it being funded by an arab oil baron, what with the Riyadh setting
>>22714816Exceeding limits of the universe itself.Infinitism Mazinkaiser (MTP) is halfway there at least.
>>22714852there is now bowlSayaka before the show even started, she is explicitly mentioned as Kouji's girlfriend in her character profile
So how long until the fukuda/ okouchi fuckery begins?
>arab funding GrendizerThe madman, VF-kun finally made it
>>22714838Imagine if Koji and Hikaru were endgame like the Ota manga and that one foreign comic.
>>22714821Any specific reason? He looks and sounds like he just walked off the OG Mazinger had it been set in the current year.
>>22714860Get hype
>>22714505>white pilderwhy?
>>22714505Good episode. I like it so far. I like this Kouji better than the 2009 remake. My only problem was that the subs for the version I watched were fucking garbage. Wonder if we will get a version of Mazinkaiser in this.
>>22714861Sayaka cuck arc now
>>22714584Desert, you need to wear full body's outfits unless you want sand everywhere around your body. Both male and female wear outfits like that in desert.
this was my first contact with Grendizer. Is the original one so much more OP than Mazinger to the point he can vaporize in the blink of an eye two mechs that defeated Mazinger with ease?
>>22714903Yes, its kind of the premise of Grendizer
>>22714903Basically Koji need Mazinkaiser if he want to stand in equal ground with Grendizer.
>>22714899Didn't Maria lose in ZERO?
>>22714903Its fucking alien technology. Of course they are stronger. Grendizer is stronger than Mazinger Z but not stronger than Mazinkaiser.
>>22714914Boy did she ever.
>>22714903To my understanding there was never any direct comparison between the two, as Mazinger Z wasn't in the Grendizer TV showDecades of SRW crossover have made the two seem roughly equal whenever they've appeared together
>>22714881Dr. Hell has been destroyed and he's been making big dosh off photon energy. Makes me think this took place years after the original manga.But I don't think he's older than his infinity counterpart.
>>22714683Someone answer me
>>22714924Great Mazinger does show up alongside Grendizer in the old Dynamic Pro crossover movies while Mazinger Z is left out. It's not on the same level as those two.
>>22714147Did Sayaka convert to islam?
>>22714710please don't bully Doublas M2-chan
>>22715007She can always hire Magia Baiser.
>>22714505Better than G-woke at least.
God I love giant robots.The only think I love more is the boundless light of Islam.
You know guys, it feels like we're forgetting someone important here
>>22715121I'm sure Boss will appear.
>>22715121I agree, doublas isn't the same without garada by it's side
>Lives in Riyadh>Didn't cover herself>Did not get segregated by gender in everyday lifeI find that unbelievable for an anime funded by those oil barons.
>>22715121Morning prayer?
>>22715010Kill yourself baby eater.
>>22715192she's even wearing a dress that exposes her hips. Very haram
>>22714914>>22714920Iirc Koji didn't want them to get hurt, but also worried that Zero would see the incredibly-strong Grendizer and get even stronger. He does get a good Duke/Grendizer-related moment before the end of the story though.
Robot Girls Z S3 when?
I've been meaning to start Grendizer but been too lazy to- Should I read/watch the original 70s series first before starting U? Or is this completely safe to start now then go back to the first series?
Does this show has the breast missiles?
>>22714978>Dr. Hell has been destroyedWhere are you getting this from?Not to mention he doesn't really stay dead most of the time.
>>22714924Both Z and Great got their asses handed to them by Grendizer in Nagai's manga. If you want to compare the TV show versions then you just need to look at the stats of the two to see that Z just can't compete with Grendizer.
>>22715285Nope. None at all.
>>22713824They made brand new promos with the original goldorak title. It got quite a lot of hype in France with both newcomers and OG fans.Only to have it not streaming in France…
This show should have female mc and yuri. This isn't the 1970s anymore.
>>22715192Sayaka has worn Hijab once when she has picked up Duke.
>>22714138Well it was a French game after all. Like actually fully developed in France
>>22714984That doesn't really mean anything other than what arbitrary merchandise they wanted to shill at the time. Instead of Mazinger Z they had Kouji using the Double Spazer. Are you gonna tell me the Double Spazer is more powerful than Mazinger Z?>>22715294>Both Z and Great got their asses handed to them by Grendizer in Nagai's mangaWhy lie? Duke never fought them individually and could not win against both. Later they're shown doing damage to saucer beasts just as Duke can, and Duke thinks they're the strongest opponents he ever fought>statsworthless extracanonical waste of time. Literally SRW stats matter more. At least more than 5 people saw those
What are we expecting for Koji? Mazinger got wrecked, and the only other options is getting repaired or him getting Great Mazinger as a spare.
>>22715331They'll probably do the normal Grendizer thing with Kouji piloting the TFO/Spazer while Mazinger Z is being repaired and move him back into a higher spec Mazinger Z later
>>22715296Unwatchable
>>22715328If I’m not mistaken, THIS is where his manga adaptation ended. Would’ve been interesting to see where uncle go’s story for grendizer went, probably the same as the anime except koji and tetsuya being more involved in their mecha, someone else would pilot the spazer
>>22715334>higher spec Mazinger ZThat's just Great Mazinger at that point.
>>22715389Upgraded Mazinger Z is a thing since Great Mazinger anime.Mazinger Infinity is a 2nd upgrade.
>funded by Saudi ArabiaThat explains a lot. Yeah, I'm not watching this. The first episode was fucking awful.
>>22715334>Kouji piloting the TFO/SpazerThe OP listed Sayaka as piloting the Double Spazer, so either Koji's consistently in the TFO or will go back to Mazinger duty relatively soon.The OP looks pretty sparse, I hope Great and Boss are going to get added in...
>>22715398When I said Spazer, I meant Grendizer in its Saucer form. I forget what the official name for that form is but IIRC Kouji usually pilots that before the main body detaches from the shell
>>22715405Ah oop, sorry, didn't realize that Koji's piloted the regular Spazer before, considering I was told "you probably can't swap Duke with Mazinger pilots considering Grendizer has ayylmao contorls", the Spazer cockpit goes down to the Grendizer one, and the TFO is still active and well for me in Grendizer.>only on episode 15 and U is already outNgmi..
>>22715204Baby eater stop projecting thanks.
>>22715416I mean I haven't watched Grendizer before so I don't know but I distinctly remember this being a thing somewhere. Maybe it was the manga?
>>22715307Not on the marketplace, though
>>22715328>Why lie?Sorry, my bad. It seems I was severely misremembering how it went. The fight was a stalemate though which still means that individually Grendizer>Z>worthless extracanonical waste of time. Literally SRW stats matter more.Those are the official stats we were given for the Toei versions of the robots. The SRW stats would only apply to the SRW robots. But even then if we just take the one stat that was given in both shows to draw a comparison between the two (flight speed) Grendizer still comes out on top.
>>22714154>Go Nagai character
>>22715331I think Kouji will get an upgraded Mazinger (whether it will be a rebuilt Z or a new robot altogehter) later on that can use the Grendizer's Spazers. There's a whole class of robots that can use Spazers now, rather than it being something Grendizer exclusive, so I'd be surprised if Kouji doesn't get one.
>>22715487>Those are the official stats we were given for the Toei versions of the robots. The SRW stats would only apply to the SRW robotsAnd guess what? Neither apply to Grendizer U, the show we're trying to talk about. To the extent that either of them do, SRW would obviously win out due to being far more recent and having much more cultural presence and staying power than some shit published in a magazine or toy catalog 50 years ago>The fight was a stalemate though which still means that individually Grendizer>ZMaybe you're right but the point is ultimately that the power differential we see in Grendizer U is a lot larger than what we see here. The Nagai portrayal of Grendizer wouldn't be able to curbstomp enemies that destroyed Z
Btw the Hover Pilder was also white elsewhere in the 70s but I cannot find the source image. Probably we'll get the Hover or Jet Pilder which will be in red.>>22715436I don't think so, but it's also been a while since I've read the manga.
>>22715398>The OP looks pretty sparse, I hope Great and Boss are going to get added in...I think it's just going to be cuts for whatever Kouji is going to get later on. Note Mazinger Z outside of the final cast still shot was just footage from the episode, and Kouji himself also only appears either in episode 1 footage, the initial quick portraits of everyone and the cast shot at the end. They're 100% hiding Kouji's actual character card alongside something new for him.>>22715405>>22715416Kouji usually pilots the Double Spazer after the TFO, but they're giving it to Sayaka here. Although I could see Kouji piloting it a couple of times before he gets whatever they're keeping for him.He never pilots the original UFO-like Spazer as far as I know.
>>22715331>Mazinger got wreckedJust reconnect the head, lol. It wasn't even cracked.>>22715389I mean, Koji just saw how cool and effective Dizer's Space Thunder was...That being said, I'd love some original design. What was the last time we got a proper new Mazin, 7 years ago?
>>22715501That would be cool, but there's a SMALL problem of Z being much smaller than the Dizers.
>>22715523Latest Mazinger was ZEST which came out like a year or two ago. We get new Mazingers all the time. The one in U itself is already a new design (just like basically every iteration of Mazinger.) Don't think we've ever seen the white pilder with gold trim before
>>22714838Koji/Duke is endgame. The first episode was full of sexual tension between them
>>22715516>They're 100% hiding Kouji's actual character card alongside something new for him.You're forgetting that not a single villain has been introduced yet (except maybe the Vega girls). Albeit Hikaru and Maria are already in the OP despite neither of them having been introduced either, but I'm saying there's definitely other things they could slot in
Damn, what a lackluster first episode. Koji converted to Islam and became a Photon Power monger or something? Why the fuck he’s living in the Middle East? It’s such obvious pandering… Duke is boring as fuck. Sayaka is useless. Koji has no charisma. Animation is shitty. Battles were shitty. Pacing is awful. This is only a slight improvement over Getter Robo Arc and I just wish they gave this budget to Kawagoe instead. This has trainwreck written all over it. Makes me want to reevaluate Infinity, which was alsoMeh but not as bad as this.
>>22715505It’s white in the Shonen Jump covers and color pages.
>>22715602If they gave this project to Kawagoe I would be 10000x less interested in itI am here for the Fukuda moments
>>22715063Mazinger has an atemporal design that make it look cool decades after it was created. It's just iconic
>>22715535Z is no stranger to fighting larger enemies
>>22715010Nero Alice could use a friend to play the kaiju when she role plays as Ultra Ma'am.
>>22715632The post was about Spazer compatibility
>>22715585Here's your love triangle.
>>22715602>Why the fuck he’s living in the Middle Eastfiscal paradise
>>22715613I never watched anything by Fukuda. Does this feel like his usual fare?
>>22715687This is the man behind Cyber Formula, Dendoh, Gundam SEED and Cross AngeIt's kinda hard to tell what "usual fare" is for him
>>22714773Given that there are two other -Dizers who appear to be on Vega Empire's side, my theory is that Grendizer was a "Trojan Horse" kind of gift meant to coax Fleedians into accepting an alliance with them, and the deal was sweetened exponentially by having Duke in an arranged marriage with Rubina. Once all the chess pieces were in their places, Vegans took control of Grendizer and turned it on Fleedians, as you can see Duke screaming for it to stop and trying in vain to control it.They also likely did something to him before he escaped since he suffered a memory loss when he landed, and trailers showed him asking Koji to take him down if he ever turns against Earth.
>>22715535That's why I think it'd be an upgrade or new unit, not just slapping the spazers on the Z as it was.
>>22715695>Gundam SEEDNo wonder the opening looks like this.
>>22715687>>22715687The key points of a Fukuda show:>Characters he really wants the audience to like that are very hatable and vice versa>Loads of information that should be in the show that's relegated to supplementary material>The technology and logic of the show being a complete mess that only gets fixed in supplementary material>Clipshow hell>Frankly bizarre romance subplots that stop and start at a whim, especially when any sort of fiance is involved
>>22714683>>22714979Anyone answer my question? How many episodes is this series getting?
>>22715585One episode and already gayer than Sulemio
>>22715742Could be an Infinity situation. A full on overhaul to the point Mazinger gains several meters.
>>2271581313 according to the Japanese wikipedia.
>>22715416>>Ah oop, sorry, didn't realize that Koji's piloted the regular Spazer before,he did it once in Nagai's manga but stated the alien controls were too complex.I suppose the new anime isn't bound to that or the "can't get close" rule of the old anime and can have Koji on the Spazer while Z is getting repaired
>>22715706we actually know the backstory from the The Inception prequel manga: Vega attempted to conquer Fleed but Grendizer, piloted by Duke's father, did force them in a peace treaty
I know nothing but are those 2 alien girls in love with Duke or some shit?
Kouji should clearly fuck both Sayaka and Maria
>>22715906It's pretty much explained in the first episode, isn't it?
>>22715948That doesn't explain about the red head. Is she also in love with him?
>>22716003Probably not, or at least not yet/not like that.
>>22715928Koji is for Duke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRmAD06869A
>>22707917It was dogshit and I've never seen the original grendizer until just now to compare both first episodes The original is full of testosterone, the remake is phoned in garbage with random Saudis into the background and they turned Koji and Daisuke into estrogen filled twinks. Absolutely soulless In the original kouji is allowed to be a piece of shit bastard and have flaws just like in mazinger 2009 and like Joe from ashita no Joe. In the remake he's just generic instant bros with DaisukeIn the original Daisuke is a fucking Chad inspiration to young boys, rides a motorcycle and does a flip with it and then grendizer has a cool debut with a manly theme song playing, the remake is just soulless with barely any action or fights fucking hell the original episode was 25 minutes with tons more action
Welp the gay faggot twink grendizer remake pissed me off so much that I watched TWO EPISODES of the original and kouji and Daisuke are much more compelling manly men in the original.
>>22716245>The original is full of testosterone
>/m/ is already praising this soulless goyslop grendizer adaptationGood to know I no longer have to take your dogshit opinions seriously after you homo faggots praised dogshit like bang bravern
>>22716339Episode 1 Daisuke tames a fucking wild horse and asserts his dominance and doesn't give a fuck and solos the aliens, rides a motorcycle and does a flipEpisode 2 Daisuke jumps 50 ft into the air into a ufo, manly fight, Daisuke oneshots kouji. Kouji saves Daisuke, motw battle where Daisuke barely manages to win, manly handshake our heroes are now friends, Daisuke on a horse looks at the sunset and strengthens to resolve to protect the earth.Inspirational to young boys makes them want to become menRemake: faggot twinks to appeal to fujos, dumb cunts stealing screentime
>>22716245>In the original kouji is a cocky good natured guy>In the original Daisuke broods and cries like a little bitchftfyAll things considered, U is far more faithful to the original than I expected. The only notable change is Duke being younger and indebted to Koji, which puts their relationship on equal footing elevating one of the big points of concern that Mazinger fans would shit on the show as hard as they did on the original.
>>>/a/268542378>/a/ crossposterWhat's their beef with us?
>Alien grunts can't be defeated by human weapons. >Kouji beats them easily>Named unit shows up and Mazinger doesn't work on it. >Kouji beats with tactics>Two more show up, and it is clear Kouji can't win, and will probably die. >Kouji Charges in anyway. Well that's my Kouji. I'm not digging purple haired Sayaka, and some of the CGI, but overall I liked the ep, and think it's a fine start. >>22716420I like the original, but like you said Daisuke literally cries while saying "I won't pilot it". In the first ep. Years before Evangelion. Granted it's completely justified, and Duke suffers about as much tragedy throughout the series as D-Boy in Tekkaman blade, but yeah.
Tetsuya will show up, I can feel it. Probably during a moment when Koji is feeling down.
>>22714683You're living in a dream if you think a 50 eps mecha anime is happening
>>22716437It's /a/. They've been doing this since forever. Doesn't help our worst trolls stalk /a/ as obsessively as the do /m/, so it's next to impossible to know if it's us or them shitposting. Now was>>22716245>>>/a/268543122posted here first, or on /a/?>>22715687It doesn't feel like his real robot show. It does feel like his super robot shows though.
>>22716459Shinkalion never fucking dies dude
>>22716478on /a/ going by the timestamp
>>22716478Going by the post timing, it looks like J hit up /a/ then here.
>>22716494I'm gone for a few months and now there is new troll lore. Who the fuck is J? Discord tranny? IRC shitter? Part of pitzfag's troll horde?
>>22715384There's one more chapter after that one, but I doubt Tetsuya would've done more either way.
>>22716514I never left and I don't know who he's talking about either
>>22715436Yeah Nagai's manga directly has Koji admitting he can't get the controls Grendizer has
Here's your Mazinger upgrade.
>>22716245Wasn't Fukuda netouyo? Why did he emasculate Koji and Duke while Seed freedom didn't emasculate Kira and Shinn?
>>22716420>dat picFujos work fast
>>22716572Well that code gay ass faggot Ichiro Okouchi is working on it, he and the others probably were against making them manly men and figured it'd be easier to milk money out of dumb fujo subhumans
>>22716572You never watch Grendizer schizo
>>22716572WDYM? Seed guys were emasculated from the start.
>>22716445>I'm not digging purple haired Sayaka,I'm not BOTHERED by it but I am just left wondering WHY.
>>22716613Where's 2 and 3
>>22716572I don't see how Kira or Athrun are manly looking compared to the designs here.
>>22716617
>>22716572Kira is more emasculated in SEED, Destiny and Freedom than Koji or Duke are here
>>22716613my guess is they wanted there to be more variety in hair color
>>22716629I mean Maria has a pretty distinct color and Hikaru I guess overlaps but their do is pretty distinct too.
>>22716613I guess the plan was for a black haired Sayaka, but the character designer decided to tone the colour to work better with her pilot suit.
Speaking of the pilot suit, it looks new.I assume it's colors were chosen complementary to Koji's blue, as there's a lot of red on the team.
>>22715445Hopefully they give Koji a shirtless scene too.
>>22716420Oh was Daisuke older than Koji originally? I know that he called him Koji-kun but I figured they were the same age especially since they looked similar design wise.So in U Duke’s younger than him or are they the exact same age now? Either way I think that works better like you said.
>>22716623>>22716625Thank you, this is... an odd combo
>>22716712>Oh was Daisuke older than Koji originally?He was 2-3 years older than Koji at least, which actually made Koji seem like a younger brother character of sorts.Like Tetsuya from Great already was older than Koji. Duke is older than Tetsuya.>So in U Duke’s younger than him or are they the exact same age now?We don't know their ages yet.I doubt that U Duke is younger though, but they certainly feel closer in age. U Koji is likely older than he was in the original show, or at least more mature.
Do ya'll think this will be the only continuity they give us both Grendizer and Mazinkaiser as Kouji's upgraded Mazinger or will Nagai's mandate of them not being from the same universe stand?
>>22716907I think the oil money will do whatever the fuck it wants
>>22716918I'll happily take Kaiser or repaired Z using Double Spazer as a new backpack power up like in >>22716550
>>22716924>Kouji driving Z with Sayaka driving the Scrander
>>22707917Maria's design is literal sex, that's my key takeaway
>They explained why Daisuke does two half circles when Grendizer comes off its flying saucer, it's so the system can scan him as an anti piracy measureKINO
>>22716245>barely any action or fightsI mean, obviously. He just OHKOs the two enemies with one attack. But it's the first episode, it's kind of understandable, it was there to introduce the characters.Obviously if every fight is like this it's gonna be trash but there's no way that's going to be the case
>>22717021That's idiotic and only done to pander to retards who feel like everything needs a bloody explanation.
>>22717025Nah, saying it would be forced, showing it is kino.
>>22716907>>22716924We're getting Mazindizer
ahem....Requesting gif/webm of pilot seat scene, you know the one
>>22710909I guess that in Latin America it depends on the country. You have to take into consideration that since there's so many countries that speak the same language in some it might've been popular, in some others not. In Argentina for instance it only aired in cable TV for a short while, so even most of people in their 30s or 40s don't know about it. Even Great Mazinger is mostly unknown for the same reason, most boomers know it because of Mazinger's last episode and Mazinkaiser.But in some other countries it might've aired more time and it might've been more popular.
>>22712077In boomer times shipfag culture was pointed at and laughed at, though.
>>22714147I hope she greets Maria the Japanese way.
>>22715487The original question was>Is the original one so much more OP than Mazinger to the point he can vaporize in the blink of an eye two mechs that defeated Mazinger with ease?So the answer is no. Grendizer is more powerful, I think there was never a doubt about it, but not so much that he can effortlessly turn into dust enemies that easily destroyed Mazinger.I feel Mazinger was disrespected in U.
>>22717266It took down a Saucer Beast, that's more then what Mazinger Z did in the last episode of the original anime.
>>22715006Clearly not. That whore isn't covering her head.
>>22710170It's honestly pretty fucking insufferableSome fandoms are straight up unusable because of this e.g. Madoka
>>22710170There are Duke/Kouji doujins older than I am, and I'm in my 30s.
>>22717021Fuck off tourist.
>>22715602It's tourism shilling, saudi is trying to be a second dubai>look women can now wear non muslim clothing in our country>hey women can drive too now>you can live like a prince here>we have race circuits>our skyscrapers looked great don't you think?>visit our country!
>>22718435But I don't want to get killed by a Saucer Beast...
>https://tokyotower.red-brand.jp/en/event/red_grendizer-u/
>>22716697Sayaka's looks a bit like Mari's plugsuit.
>>22718813>Hikaru wasn't invitedMan, it's a pain being her, huh.She gets reinvented in her every appearance too.>regular>nerd>Cutey Honey>defence force lieutenant>and now a shrine maiden
>>22719284Why does Hikaru in particular often get her character altered?
>>22718131Seething
>>22719287She's probably too old fashioned for the new age.Like, she's not bad, but she doesn't stand out much and when you start to add new elements to her she easily becomes a vastly different character.There's also a fact that without changes it would be extremely hard to write her in without being restricted by a status quo of the original work. Original Hikaru wouldn't work in Angels, Infinitism or U. She'd kind of work in Giga, if not for its tone and pacing, but the mix of Abashiri, Hayami and Makiba had to be done at least once and is more in line with Nagai's style.
>>22715948It feels like there’s some fuckery going on with these two. Like one was killed but they have a double taking her place. There was the Macbeth quote in the trailer plus Fukada’s previous dealings with Lacus Clyne character.>>22716453I’m hoping it’s some scenario where Tesuya is protecting Japan from Hell’s army or others while Koji took Maz to the Middle East. It’s kind of like the old Kamen Rider TV set up. I’ll be pretty disappointed if Great Mazinger doesn’t show up unless they’re waiting for a potential sequel.
>>22715948>Fiancee>Given Fukuda and Okouchi's track record with engaged characters This is going to be fun
So, any brave anon is gonna fansub it? Maybe edit official subs?
>>22719996It's easier to edit MTLed subs instead, they are fairly accurate.
>>22719887>It feels like there’s some fuckery going on with these two. Like one was killed but they have a double taking her place.Yeah, that was weird considering how Duke thinks that he killed her.
So, you think Mazinger will be repaired next episode? Clearly the show is going for Koji to pilot Mazinger
>>22718435Saudi Arabia remind me to Violence Jack's Kanto>A small elite getting all the resources>The majority of the people are enslaved and starved>Unrestricted violence against the massesMaybe Saudi Arabia is a worse place to live than Kanto
>>22720083>Maybe
>>22720029The rumour going around is it’s going to be an upgraded Mazinger with Grendizer tech and Spazer use according to toy leaks.
>>22720174>toy leaksWhat toy leaks? There weren't any toy announcements in the first place.
>>22719996what was the point of those official English PV/Trailers if their are no official English subs for the actual episodes as well?
>>22720242Probably still negotiating streaming rights.
>>22720083>The majority of the people are enslaved and starvedIndians aren't human
So Grendizer U just hit Amazon Prime for streaming but it's Japanese only. It doesn't look this show is gonna get picked up at all. Is anyone here going to sub it themselves? At this point it looks like that's gonna be our only option.
>>22721022you missed english subs existing?
>>22721023The only English subs available are MTL'd from Arabic and they're crabstick-quality!
>>22721032Just as god intended then
>>22721032No, there are also subs MTL'd from Japanese and they are far more legible.
DIZERBUMP
>>22721339>bumping a thread past the bump limit
>>22721362>he doesn't know
>>22721339Not Dizer Go?
>>22721456Dizer gone...
>>22721537https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Geb8woB1k
I wonder how will Maria be introduced.
>>22721553Like a homewrecker.
>>22721554Didn't she try to kill Koji in the original?
