The first ever episode of a classic G1 Transformers show is now in 4K. I hope we eventually see Victory, Headmasters, Zone, Scramble City and episodes of the original series eventually.
>>22727030Link: https://youtu.be/vrPVS1r9O4o?si=fgG91VaNAEpq8QVD
>>>/co/
>>22727136Pretty sure /co/ would tell OP to come back here for posting this particular TF series.
>>22727040Neat.
>>22727136There's nothing American about Japanese Transformers.
>>22727030Crazy how Ginrai doesn't even appear in the first episode.
>>22727136lmao this is Toei robot anime through and through
>>22727296He doesn't appear until like episode 10 or something? And nobody seems to care that he looks like Optimus?
>>22727303>He doesn't appear until like episode 10What the fuck were Toei and Takara smoking with this decision?
>>22727136Alright I'll post it and see what happens
>>22727310I don’t know, anticipation?
>>22727303The show flirts with the idea of being a soft reboot but gets awkwardly reworked as a Headmaster sequel over time. Kinda like Ultraseven to Ultraman.
>>22727030>Captured in 4K from an original 16mm film printHow the fuck did they get that
>AI "remaster"Fuck off.
>>22727914rescan the film. that how most 4k ver get a new release
>>22727959Dumbass
>>22727959>>22727914
>>22727914TFRaw gets all kinds of crazy shit that would've been lost to time, he must have his connections. Because of him we have behind the scenes footage at Toei Animation making Transformers The Movie which had never been acknowledged on any official special features for it.Skip to 11:12 https://youtu.be/NR9o8kFtooA?si=PzWmv-UjRsGxbfkO
>>22727030Good pre/m/iere.
>>22727030Are the Transformers anime worth it? I don't know what the consensus is since they're obscure to most of the fanbase
>>22729689Consensus seems to be that The Headmasters sucks/is boring as hell. People seem to like Victory. Masterforce is “the weird one.” Most US Transformers fans seem to just ignore them. I remember there was one of those multi-hour yourube videos about “the complete history of the Transformers, going into exhaustive (over)detail about every series, but the Japanese-only series from the late-80s to early-90s were glossed over in a couple of sentences. Over here they’re considered basically a footnote. Most fans haven’t actually watched them. Geewun oldfags especially seem to write them off. “What is this anime bullshit doing in my Transformers?” “Japan doesn’t understand Transformers.” etc.
>>22728204Did they ever that Secrets of Cybertron script or is that lost to time?
>>22730284*ever found
>>22729689>Undubbed:G1 series: haven't watched, can't rateBW series: fun as hell, but literally filler>I watched the dubsR.I.D.: fun as fuckArmada: top tier plot that's absolutely destroyed by bad production values and the most annoying kidsEnergon: bottom tier series of the whole franchise in nearly every aspectCybertron: OUR WORLDS ARE IN DANGER. TO SAVE THEM AND THE GALAXY WE MUST HAVE THE MOST AWESOME CLANKY TRANSFORMATIONS AND WORLD BUILDING and also the human characters are actually good and positively contribute to the plot and robot interactions for once
>>22727310Many of the Japan transformers shows would have character appearances line up with toy releases. Ginrai's toy would be sold later, so there was no reason to have him appear early on.
>>22730002I think that's for a multitude of reasons that all compound each other. First, you have the early-days-of-the-fandom perception of the Japanese shows: mysterious and COOL Japanimation where Soundwave and Blaster fight to the DEATH, and Cybertron BLOWS UP, and all sorts of things that sound so amazing that you'll never watch... while at the time the Marvel comics were far easier to come across and share. This is important, because of the way the two countries (and their fanbases) view Transformers.The West, Transformers is thought of (or imagined as) this action packed show/comic, full of sci-fi and dramatic moments and some witty dry humor. Where in their nostalgia every episode had the high stakes of the movie, or the gripping melodrama of the Underbase Saga. Where Beast Wars was this grand sweeping epic action story. The undisputed king of robot franchises because what even else is there? And it grows and feeds on this perception, leading to Nostalgia Boom marketing like comics and Bay movies adding to this sort of undercurrent that Transformers is for Mature Big Boys Like Me. While in Japan, Transformers is treated as something for a younger audience than it is in America. Where it's just Babby's First Mecha anime, a robot show in a sea of other robot shows. Where the shows lean in harder on tropes the West doesn't: goofy slapstick for comedy, a clear "Main Character" Biggest Most Expensive Toy being the star of the show, heroic justice being a tangible source of energy. And so on and so on, the views of West vs East permeate the whole franchise. I've even seen comments from Japan that view Headmasters as more "Toei trying to mimic the Western show" before Masterforce and Victory go full on "THIS is what a Transformers show BY JAPAN FOR JAPAN is". Hard to have western fans want to give them their fake shake when that's knit into the very cloth of them.
>>22730442To capstone this, look at the IDW Beast Wars profiles: It profiled every toy, from American and Japan, but made to fit the American side of things, and the author even though he was one of the earliest superfans, still looked at the Japanese characters more as a problem to fix than something to enjoy for their own sake. And the result? All humor was sucked out of every character except for Waspinator because Beast Wars was Nonstop 3D Action. Where "ugh, this character was SO DUMB and GOOFY" had to be reworked into a more "nuanced" idea. Where "I didn't think I could make this character work because whenever I close my eye I just see them getting hit by Wacky Cartoon Mallets", but in the same breath going "here's cool profiles I made up for some fucking Happy Meal toys".
>>22727509Ultraseven never does that though. You’re thinking of Return. Seven even implies every other M78 alien looks just like him. Just for his superior to never be mentioned again.
>>22730449>All humor was sucked out of every character except for Waspinator because Beast Wars was Nonstop 3D Action.Which was also bullshit because nearly every Beast Wars character has wacky silly bullshit happen to them at some point. While some of the BW Sourcebook's problems were simply that complete dubs were not availiable at the time, most of it is simply "this dude had a bad idea based on faulty opinions and went through with it"
>>22730637I meant more how Ultraseven takes the same basic premise but is not a sequel so maybe more like Sentai or what Brave would become. Early on Masterforce is written as if there were no other Transformers on Earth besides the Pretenders until Devil Z came along with his Transtectors. It isn't until they call up Chromedome on the space phone does Masterforce start to connect more with the past series. Even then it sometimes forgets that people are supposed to know who the Transformers are or that this is the future. Victory pushes things slightly more in line with the American shows.
>>22730002Fans don't care here because old subbed anime is really niche and they were never intended for Americans. They're actually really significant since they were the only animated series between the first G1 series and BW, and were the face of tue Japanese half of the franchise in the 80s.
>>22730002It's really sad people don't view the Japanese series as part of a larger brand, all because they weren't intended for the US. In Japan they aren't distinguished by anything, it's just "that years season/wave of TF" much like Kamen Rider or Sentai or eventually Yuusha.
>>22730954>That videoGod, I miss Beast Wars. There was just something about that particular brand of banal comedy that felt right. Couldn't help but laugh at it, no matter how cringe or ridiculous it was. Starring first and foremost Megatron, spending half of all his days in an energon-jacuzzi, monologuing evil plans against a yellow rubber ducky. Yeeeee---s.
>>22732223Brushing the teeth of his dinosaur head laser arm was a good moment.
>>22732226And the corny quips, oh god ...> :: Predacons blowing a hole into Maximal headquarters and preparing to raid it ::> Megatron (taking cover next to the entrance): "Quickstrike, you may lead"> :: Quickstrike enthusiastically barrels himself forward. ::> Inferno (disgruntled): "Royalty, why was *I* not chosen?!"> Megatron: "Because, Inferno, when expecting a booby-trap --"> :: Quick cut to Quickstrike getting slammed into a steel defense wall by a solid steel fist-shaped battering ram. ::> Megatron: "-- always send the boob in first."
>>22732223>MegatronDavid Kaye's best role.
A big part of why the fanbase is very split is because the fans are cartoon/toy fans. They generally don't watch that much anime. They're more likely to get into other american toyetic stuff like he-man or whatever. It's also not something like robotech where what they're watching is just the shitty bootleg version, so they don't move on as a community to "the real thing", because it's not really any more real. That's probably why they aren't here all that much, this is a much more weeaboo anime centric board.At worst it turns them into being just another 80's boomerstolgia americana community that sits around going "anime, isn't that stuff weird pornos? I don't want any tentacles in my cartoons!".
>>22734641who said the fanbase is "split"? what "split" are you refering to?
>>22734679People who like Japanese Transformers and those who don't, it's become a common point of discussion because of the noticeable lack of anime in the franchise that was once a staple since the 80s, the fact that lots of zoomers are old enough to be nostalgic for their first encounter with Transformers anime like RID2001 or the Unicron Trilogy, and that sites like TFWiki got major flack by fans of Japanese Transformers for spamming "WTF JAPAN" jokes for like two decades. Like >>22734641said, some fans just move on to other American toy centric shit like GI Joe, He Man, TMNT etc, and others use it to get into other robot shows like Yuusha, Macross, Gundam etc. Some Transformers fans don't like it being part of a super robot genre, while many love Japanese Transformers because they love said genre. So rather than except that it's something that just doesn't appeal to them, the fans of western Transformers just insist everything that didn't air in their country is bad.
>>22727030Wonder if the rest of Masterforce will get remastered.
>>22741415Considering it was done by a single person, unlikely. Unless somehow 16mm prints of every episode show up on Yahoo Japan auctions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2NuUWuwPCM
>>22745630>westernFormerssnore!
>>22745630> Turning Bumblebee into the most annoying version of Wheelie yet.:: PUKE ::
>>22745672Genuinely tired of hollywood takes on Transformers with terrible MCU characterizations. Just want another half decent anime production like Galaxy Force or Car Robots.
>>22745699Maybe the MCU style will finally end in this decade.
>>22745699Technically western transformers was always written by marvel
>>22730954>>22732223>>22732226>>22732250Beast Wars megatron is good, but you cant write off his next best megatron role https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO289bB6Sjs
>>22747882https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgUosUPX3dg>I saw how Optimus treated his men he was a leader of integrity>unlike you>You were too weak to gain my respect
>>22747895Micheal Dobson was a great Starscream.
>>22745672Transformers animated is the last good western Transformers that featured japanese Autobots/Decepticons and the headmaster juniors would have became main characters with Sari as shes technically a pretender too
>>22745630It's not as terrible as the first trailer but it's still kind of slop. Not bayverse slop at least.
>>22747879No? Marvel only wrote the marvel comics.
