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Do you like Full Armor gimmick and what's the best FA?
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Yes.
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when it comes to FAGs I think you are the biggest one OP, you are definitely the best FAG around
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>>22783573
If it’s done with tact.
Example:
FA RX-78 and FA Alex good.

FA ZZ and FA Hyaku Shiki bad.

In my opinion, it needs to not just be a hundred random bits glued onto the mobile suit, it needs to be more like a suit of armor on top of the suit itself, otherwise it’s just too fucking much and looks ridiculous.
It doesn’t make sense to turn agile suits like ZZ and HS into huge tanks because it defeats their purpose, it makes more sense for general purpose MS as a legitimate alternate armament.
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>>22783675
the fuck's the difference between giving full armor to both the RX-78-2 and the HS? both were agile general purpose MS
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>>22783681
HS has wing binders, it’s primarily designed to be an agile space mobile suit. Tripling its weight and putting a hundred more sharp edges on it completely defeats the purpose of its creation.
RX-78 was literally designed as a general purpose mobile suit for ground and space combat. As a jack-of-all-trades it makes a lot more sense for it to have a bullet proof vest when the situation arises, RX series has always been modular.
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>>22783573
What's that suit between the Hyaku Shiki and 0 Gundam? Is it a Full Armor RE GZ or Zeta Plus?
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>>22784504
Full Armor version of Gundam Mark III
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>>22784507
Nice try Hot Scramble Gundam but you can't fool me that easy
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>>22783573
>Do you like Full Armor gimmick
Yes
>what's the best FA?
For me it's a tossup between the FAZZ and Thunderbolt
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>>22783573
even though it's only "full armor" by name, there's something about FA Unicorn that's aesthetically pleasing for me.
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>>22784752
it's the age of beams I guess, it has three shields that each have I-field generators
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>>22784752
It means you have bad taste. This thing is a clusterfuck of nonsense. They are just glueing as much crap on it as possible to sell a model kit.
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>>22784752
I like how the design conveys "last ditch effort where we strap everything in the armory on one machine".
It would make more sense to call it the Gundam Unicorn Full Armament
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>>22784767
That there's no Full Arms trend in Gunpla to match Full Armors is baffling.
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>>22784786
Closest thing I can think of are these option parts sets. But if you're talking individual suits I guess the Psycho Zaku too
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>>22784786
Perfect Strike Gundam kinda fits that category.
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>>22783573
As much as the FA is a downgrade for the Zeta overall performance wise and functionally, I love the FA Zeta. Visually it just appeals to me in a way the regular Zeta doesn't.
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>>22783573
I do a lot.
it always looks nice.

I wish my fav Gundam got a FA too
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>>22783573
Very few do it well but yeah, it can be awesome
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>>22783573
What the fuck is the point of an FA Alex? It already has the chobham armor
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Does your full armor mode give you atmospheric reentry capability? If not, don't even @ me.
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>>22786495
Chobham itself doesn't add any weapons. Traditionally, Full Armor types usually include a double barrel beam gun and shoulder cannon that could be either beam or projectile, even some AUs tend to reference it
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i love it when they pile more and more on, its so retarded and fun
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>>22786874
The GP01Fb with the HFA parts is more pointy but I like it too
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>the best FA?
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Depends, i feel like it's ether gotta serve a purpose like a heavy unit or something or just be fucking cool in design. i fucking hate when they just go GO GO GADGET MAKE I MORBIDLY OBESE.
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>>22796836
Wait, GM Spartan a full armor?
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>>22784972
damn that's hot
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>>22786495
Backup plan in case the Chobham armor which was being developed at the same time turned out to be a failure or otherwise impractical.
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>>22796892
no, I have no idea what that anon meant by posting it
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>>22783573
>Full armor Hyaku Shiki is in the works


I believe.
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>>22786874
These suits operate in space so I think its not so retarded to slap on a ton of equipment to it when you dont have to worry about weight.
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>>22796948
Not a kit, but it is getting a Ka Signature toy.
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>>22797053
came out just a few days ago in fact
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You've heard of Full Armor, now get ready for FULLER ARMOR
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>>22797053
Never got why it has such an odd face. It doesn't look like anything else from the time period.
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>>22783573
More gun, but...damn!
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>>22797094
it's an okawara revision on top of a nagano design, it's kind of expected to be weird
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>>22783573
Full Armor MKII is the best one but I wanna gives points to the FA hyaku-Shiki for turning the Hyaku-Shiki into a direct counterpart of the Sazabi down to the proportions and general silhouette because I think that's a pretty fun joke that's easy to miss.
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>>22784786
We really do need an entire line of Full Bullet Zaku derivatives.
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>>22786874
The 7th having like a successive chain of Full Armors inside of Full Armors feels like something Lowe Guele would have come up with so I honestly approve.
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Some monoeye "full armor" for a change
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>>22797094
Nagano+Okawara revision, but also it's supposed to be along the same lines as how the Sazabi's head is relatively unusual for a Zeek suit with how it has a full helmet and faceplate and two headcrests. The Crown evokes Char's old helmet chevron thing for example.

The FAHS's entire thing is "What if Sazabi, but it was Hyaku-Shiki?", kind of the ultimate evolution of a Char suit from the other major line he's associated with.
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>>22797915
And the artillery variant of it, I fucking love the gigantic front half of a Zaku machine gun used as a cannon
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>>22797903
Huh, I never really realized that. It's not visually obvious, but there are a couple of parallels

>head crest sorta similar
>front chest mega particle cannon (not in exact same spot)
>little thruster struts that hang down from the the shoulder
>upper backpack has two large pods that vaguely resemble the two funnel docks on the Sazabi (totally different purpose though)
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>>22797903
even more appropriate when FA Hyaku Shiki Kai is the go-to final suit for Char in SRW games that don't go through the CCA plotline.
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>>22797942
Its more obvious if you can put models or face-on shots side by side, lineart means that the FAHSK's details kind of just blob into itself with that 3/4ths profile, but it's essentially the same suit just replacing "Rounded and Red" with "Blocky and Gold" proportionally.
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>>22790544

Are those two supposed to be similar or something? The leg armor is about the only thing that even looks vaguely the same.
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>>22797920
That Xamel-esque chest monoeye is just the cherry on top

Also F90J where
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>>22783573
>Do you like Full Armor gimmick
Not particularly
>what's the best FA?
Dendrobium
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>>22784751
The lower legs of the ReZEL look exactly like the lower legs of the FAZZ.

What could this imply?
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>>22799619
>What could this imply?
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>>22799619
>What could this imply?
that you should get a head start learning braille now before you go completely bind
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>>22790544
Rather fond of the Full Armour MK2
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>>22798404
I think he just slapped together two of his favorites into one image
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>>22783573
My personal Favorite has to be the V2AB, I just like it taking the best full armor gimmick of the armor being Purgeable and bringing it all way down to the regular mobile suit itself.
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>>22783573
Full Armor Zeta. It's so absolutely retarded as concept that I love it. Also, the design is pretty clean/cool leaking.
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>>22804937
You made me remember a fanmade Full Armored Zeta I saw a couple years ago, though upon finding it again I realized that the base unit is basically a Zeta Plus, though it's cool that it retains the transformation ability.
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>>22805400
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>>22783675
>agile suits like Zetas fat cousin ZZ
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>>22783573
Hyaku Shiki looks mustardish.
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>>22784507
MkIII is so sexy holy shit. Maybe because it's rarely white.
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>>22784752
I don't really like "Full Armour" that much, but I do like whatever they did with Unicorn. I always like mechs that are armed to the teeth with as many guns strapped to them as possible
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>>22784752
They should just call it Full Armament instead of Full Armor because it nothing looks like full armor
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>>22783573
Does the Avalanche Exia count?
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>>22818368
I think Seven Sword is closer to a FA. Isn't Avalanche just a ground combat mobility aid?
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>>22783573
Don't really care for it.
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>>22783573
I do not care for Full Armor variants. They insist upon themselves.
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>>22815494
Mustard is not supposed to be golden
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>>22824731
Interesting but...

What's the point of all this armor when it doesn't protect against beams? All that extra weight would have slowed Amuro down massively, and Char would have just tagged Amuro with Sazabi's chest beam cannon which destroys Asteroids in a single blast. GG armor.
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>>22824740
Why do people have this completely made up image that a single beam shot of any kind can blast through an infinite amount of armour?
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>>22824745
I don't think Nu Gundam is blocking this.
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>>22824808
Fin Funnel I-Field would no-sell it.
All the additional armor is so Amuro can basically completely ignore mook fire.
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>>22824808
not a direct hit with the entirety of it to center mass, sure, but a grazing hit absolutely yes. Besides, HWS doesn't even ahve that much extra armor increasing its mass in the first place, and the legs have huge Zeta-inspired thrusters added to even things out.
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>>22797920
this one rules
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>>22783573
>Do you like Full Armor gimmick
You dont put your faith in "gimmicks" when you are taking on a squad of grunts, that Full Armor gonna save yo ass
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>>22783573
Does this count?
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>>22805400
>>22805402
The concept is really cool, anon, but honestly I think that it'd be a bit too much, both in and outta universe. On one hand, a transforming mobile suit that could fit a Full Armor component and also transform would be a really tall order for any MS gunpla like that, And on the other, I'd imagine that a machine with so many moving, detachable and optional parts would be the hangar queen to end all others.
With that said, I fucking love how it looks so damn much...
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>>22832905
that's why it took Kawamori 25 years to figure out how to make a transforming Armored Valkyrie
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>>22827334
>Fin Funnel I-Field would no-sell it.

Lmao.

No.

That Mega beam is punching RIGHT THROUGH that paper thin barrier.
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>>22835572
Alpha Azieru's head mega particle cannon has an output of 19.5 MW, Sazabi's check mega particle cannon is only 8.8MW.
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>>22838723
There's no point debating MW. You have presented zero proof that Nu Gundam's funnel barrier can withstand any type of big beam attack. We've only seen it stop small beam weapons.
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>>22838723
the power ratings aren't a reliable metric for actual strength. Even in this case, Alpha Azieru's funnels are rated at about 20MW and the fin funnel barrier blocks them just fin.
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I like NuHWS and Full Armor ZZ but otherwise eh
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>>22818454
Avalanche is perfectly able to fight and includes other weapons too. At minimum, it's got claws and extra beam sabers on each foot. Fon duct taped the Avalanche kit to an Astraea Type F and used it just fine too.
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Full Armor MS are just meme tier unless the base suit has powerful generator output/upgraded engine/external power for the FA. Shit seems not feasible if the base suit is already pushed to the limit, then slapping additional armor and weaponry on it, then expect it to perform better.
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>>22842607
Every Astraea variant looks so good.
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>>22844713
Have there been any suits that stopped working or ran out of power after the full armor was attached?
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>>22845678
Do we count Mighty Strike Freedom having an extra nuclear reactor on the backpack?
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>>22845757
That ADDED more power after being attached, and it wasn't full armor. I'm asking if anything got worse after equipping full armor.
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>>22830547
Playing as the Full Armor ZZ in the Gundam Battle Assault games and seeing it in the SRW gave me the impression it was the ultimate form of the ZZ

Then I actually watched the show and found out it was just a one-episode mod that didn't do anything but fly around launching missiles and get turned back to normal next episode. What a letdown.
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Full armor is only good when the machine is introduced with it on, without any mention to it on the name, and then at some important point it casts the armor off.
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>>22846028
No.
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Definitely the Granddaddy of all Full Armors
FA-78 Full Armor Gundam
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>>22846198
bootleg of the granddaddy, maybe
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>>22835572
Punching through? No, he's disabling it. There's no point wasting reactor power on something he's already dodged. No need to fully block it and waste power once he's broken off from it.
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>>22849742
Don't the fin funnels get overloaded/abandoned at that point? IIRC after that glancing shot from the Alpha Azieru, none of the funnels that formed the beam barrier are shown again and Amuro is only left with the single fin funnel on the back that he hasn't deployed yet to later use against Char.
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>>22841596
>just fin.
kek
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>>22846028
wrong
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>>22866703
state of that waist
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>>22786874
It makes sense when you remember that most of these aren't meant to operate anywhere but in space.
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>>22866703
That waist must be really fucking powerful.
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>>22842607
>be exia
>your mom astraea tries your clothes
>she looks hotter than you
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>>22845861
Yeah welcome to Gundam. You play as The O in any of the various games and see it doing these sick 4 Saber combos. Then in the show he literally uses a single of his hidden sabers once right before dieing.
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>>22783573
Its sad that Gundam and Macross were the only 2 franchises to do full armor.
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>>22786830
huh, they MPed the Gransa?
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>>22824740
its not FA, its HWS. most of the bulk is extra armaments or supplies
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>"An abrams TUSK armor is practically useless because it doesnt protect against a fucking jdam"
Thats the logic being used here.
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>>22824808
Goddamn it above post was replying to this
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>>22878694
I can understand Full Armor designs for Macross. Their mecha generally use lots of missiles as their main weapons along with bullets. Their enemies are usually alien bugs or something else. So the missiles make sense.

>>22878730
Not that anon but what is the purpose of Nu Gundam HWS? I'm trying to understand the war situation that would require them to build something like this. Necessity is the mother of invention. But what kind of Battle situation would force Amuro to bring all that? Is he fighting an army of mobile armors?
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>>22878851
I think in universe they probably forgot that Amuro is well, Amuro. They were probably aiming for precautions against heavy funnel fire along with squads upon squads of neo zeon MSs trying to shoot him down. Where in reality, he didnt need most of the HWS package. The project failed because the bulk made it impractical, but the project cancelation isnt something Amuro himself wouldve lost his shit over. Nu Gundam, even in its rushed base, was perfect for him.
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>>22878851
HWS is probably for base assaults, when he needs something to punch trough fortifications. the Nu is great at dogfighting bult ultimately his biggest gun is just the Fin Funnel array
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What's the point of full armor if you can't shed it at will?
More examples of this?
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>>22878933
I miss old macross. It had a nice mix of action, survival, drama, and a dash of Idol stuff.

Modern Macross...I just can't. It's like 50 to 70% idol now. Everything else secondary. I heard the idols even ride inside the cockpits and sing now from cockpit. Cringe.
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>>22878694
>Dendoh
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>>22881202
Yeah, but that was an emergency mode because the Data Weapons weren't working. Did Dragonar have full-armor?
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>>22881231
D-1 had Cavalier-0
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>>22878720
No, the Assault Jacket is an equipment package developed by Flit's friend who became a mechanic in the 2nd generation. After further development they develop the Glansa parts.

>>22878694
It occasionally comes up elsewhere.
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