22 years later, how bad do we think it really is?
>>22870000It's cool.
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>>22870000>weWe are not a collective you underage undead abortion
>>22870000It's shit
I love OG SEED. Kira gets kinda dumb though in Destiny and Freedom.
>>22870000Better than Zeta but that's not a high bar
>>22870000Athrun Zala has arrived and demands naked tomboys.
>>22876970You're shit.Seed is GOAT.kys.
>>22879117Is it worth it?
>>22870000SEED is unironically fine. Probably my favorite official Gundam AU, since all of the others besides IBO are rehashes of UC, whereas SEED differentiates itself with its romantic fairy tale flavor.
Almost finished watching Seed Destiny. Nowhere near as bad as people made it out to be, and these Jesus memes about Kira are disappointingly way out of proportion.
>>22879564SEED is literally 50% a 0079 rehash what are you talking about?
>>22870000Very bad
>>22870000>Cosmic Era>2 shows, manga, a movie, a couple videogames>STILL NO SEED GUNDAMWhat did they mean by this? Why call it gundam seed when there's no seed gundam?
20 years since the premiere of Gundam Seed Destiny. What would you like to say to Seed Destiny on its 20th anniversary?
Most of what makes it decent at all is just it rehashing 0079 or remixing concepts from UC. The only decent central idea it has about genetic engineering and the consequences thereof are poorly explored mainly because it's largely dropped as something they even address after a while.Popularity amongst the casual audience was carried by its good character designs, soundtrack, and of course Okawara's mechanical designs. As much as people joke about the character samefaces, the character designs have endured in their popularity after all this time, whether through merch or the endless porn we get of them.
>>22879853Honestly im surprised good character design is a factor here. I find both the design and the artstyle very ugly.
Personally? I was not fond of it all that much but it had its moments (Stargazer & Astray). DESU I found more enjoyment out of watching G-Reco than this.
>>22880213I don't like the designs either but there's clearly something appealing about them to a lot of people. Someone who's more well-versed in cartoon character designs in this could probably explain better than I can but I think the simplistic samefaces that people criticize a lot are simultaneously what makes it so appealing to mass audiences.
>>22879564The whole point of SEED’s production was to be a 0079 for dumbfuck young children in the early aughts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFP3FImMcWI
>>22870000I finished watching SEED for the first time this last weekend and mostly enjoyed it (Athrun carries). It spends about 20 episodes being an EXTREME rip off of 0079 before starting to do it's own thing after the whole not-ramba ral arc. The gundam designs grew on me a lot, but that's also the problem. Most of the designs were just gundams. Grunts took a huge backseat and even worse they're just uninspired rip offs of UC suits (which seems to have gotten worse with Destiny and Freedom). Can't wait to watch destiny because I hear it becomes a trainwreck.
Did anyone ever get the CellDX cards?
>>22876912U
>>2287956400 was a fucking Wing retread, you retard.
Watched it for the first time last year. The first episode was good but then it got pretty boring and I felt like it was just a series of battles with no stakes until like episode 8 or so when Flay starts becoming more important. Her overt Coordinator hate, manipulating Kira to become her personal kill dog, the on screen sex scene. She legitimately made the series interesting again and I got invested into what would happen.
>>22886342N
>>22890881D
>>22886361Yeah, that was pivotal.
>>22879853To be honest Seed/Destiny angular designs always looked boring to me. Post-0079 UC Gundams are much cooler. Okawara peaked at Wing and after that his designs were just rehashes.
>>22898144Forgot the pic
>>22898147Original Freedom is still the best Freedom.
>>22879769>There's still no 0080 Gundam>There's still no 0083 Gundam>There's still no 08th MS Team Gundam>There's still no Chars Counterattack Gundam>There's still no IGLOO Gundam>There's still no Trailblazer Gundam>There's still no Iron Blooder Orphan GundamWhat did they mean by this
>>22901248that's an origin-level copout and you know it
>>22894495U
>>22904032M
>>22910732S
>>22913734Where's his smirk when he was thinking about Cagalli?
>>22901260You're a copout.
>>22923132That makes it look like Cagalli and Lacus are going to kiss.
>>22923222Kira cucked AGAIN!?
>>22898231Poor man's DX
>>22870000Too much melodrama.Seed Astray is the superior choice.
>>22870000It's terrible after the Kira and Athrun fight and Kira get the freedom. Before that it is ok. Even after that to be fair the climatic battle is fun. I especially like Yzak getting kills on the druggies.
>>22870000Mediocre for the first 25 episodes. Abysmal afterwards.It's shit.
>>22876934>We are not a collective you underage undead abortion
>>22879483>You're shit.>Seed is GOAT.>kys.
>>22870000SEED was pretty bad.Destiny was complete shit to the point it makes SEED look kinda good.Freedom is shockingly good.
>>22928450Morosawa was cancer
>>22928450>Freedom is shockingly good.Lol no. Freedom is so bad that it makes destiny look kind of good.
>>22931806Got any examples?
>>22931806I only need to give one, NTR.
>>22931831>>22931840
>>22931840I wonder if it was an attempt to give Kira and Lacus more flaws because people complained about them being flawless in Destiny. Sure, Kira loses to Shinn, but it's treated as just a minor setback for him compared to Orphee almost stealing Lacus from him in Freedom.
>>22931843>Kira loses to ShinnOnly reason kira lost was because he was not trying to kill shinn, if he wanted to kill him it would have been over in seconds.
>>22931847You're right. Still, I don't think it bothered him much aside from Freedom getting destroyed. After that he's fine and he gets Strike Freedom later on anyway. Compare that to him losing his shit over Lacus in Freedom.
You know, I actually liked the first quarter of it or so better than the original series. You can criticize it for being a retread of Mobile Suit Gundam, but most of the things they cribbed from it felt like actual improvements on the formula. We get to see more of the protagonists' home colony and life before the war so there's a bigger sense of loss when the attack happens. The relationships between the characters felt more fleshed out and the sense of tension between the civilians and the military carried a lot better throughout the first few story arcs rather than just having one or two episodes focusing on it. It was a worthy Successor to the original Mobile Suit Gundam right up until Kira failed to stay dead, I think. Then it just got kinda silly.
>>22931856Gundams can be replacedLoved ones can't
SEED is fantastic, and IMO a better telling of 0079, even if Kira's characterization gets worse and worse as the sequels come out, compared to Amuro becoming better.DESTINY is fucking awful, and is the reason people think of Kira as Jesus Yamato. The beam spam gets horrendous and the villain's plot is nonsensical.haven't seen the newest one.
>>22879564>SEED differentiates itselfSEED is literally a early 00s remake of 0079 with teen drama thrown in, the fuck?
>>22931896Destiny already demonstrated a replacement Lacus can be made
>>22932478>Sad depressed Kira doesn't react as Lacus v3/Meer v2 bounces her tits in his face
>>22931847Kira didn't want to kill anyone else he'd ever faced in a bunch of fights before that and they didn't beat him. Sounds like you're coping over Shinn being The One in 1-0
>>22937133Was Shinn the first person to take advantage of Kira not making killing blows?
>>22918089N
>>22937133SHITnn still lost to CHADira later on.
>>22940807No, he lost to Athrun. Kira beat Rey.
>>22937145He (well Rey) was the first person to even notice Kira did that. Apparently everyone else just chalked it up to coincidence.
>>22940807CuckedHilariouslyAndDecisively?
>>22870000I liked the show's MS design. Story was a ripoff the original MSG and Kira was cringe though.
