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>>22875209You know what's the funniest thing about this semi-official concept of a Japanese stealth project?From the description it follows that the Japanese spent a lot of time and effort collecting data on the Raptors from the Yukon from Shiranui II, hiding the wreckage of the Raptors after the Sagiri mutiny, hiding Bridges with his Shiranui III + various machinations with Boeing for the sake of information about the F-23 and finally made their prototype... Which turned out to be not particularly needed due to the availability of the Pacific Eagle/F-15SEJ Gekko... From the mass use of which they still refused due to the decision of Koubuin Yuuhi to adopt the Shiranui 2 and (according to the logs) to direct the remaining resources to re-equipping the Fubuki into an attack aircraft model and updating the Zuikaku.The result, a lot of time and resources were spent on an unnecessary model in a hodgepodge of alterations and updates of a bunch of imperial TSFs.
>>22872322>"Fikatsia" sounds like an amalgation of Anas>tasia< with something that start with an F...Hardly. Most likely, these idiot authors simply poked at a random set of keys, just so that it would sound non-Japanese and at least somehow differ from standard Western names like "Felicia"... And, although it does not reach "Fecalia" and if you want you can hear "Acacia", but what prevented these assholes from simply looking at a dictionary of names and choosing something like a real Russian female name "Fekla"?>>22872316Well, well, the descendants of the Nazi allies decided to become friends? And they are still saying something about Russia? Karma is a tricky thing, it’s no wonder they died.>>22872350What I mean is that "landing BETA in Africa" would have avoided all the political crap with the USSR and the Eastern Bloc... If it was really necessary to organize an "alien threat" for Japan, then it would have been possible to organize several isolated landing zones for regional battles - like Shikoku for Japan, for example.>>22872362Are you talking about the final act and the magnificent last flight of the MiGs in a march of explosions? It is certainly beautiful and partly smooths out the impression, but it does not cancel out the anti-Russian lies about "oppressed" national minorities or the nonsense from the immoral esper vivisection program.>>22873982>he goes on to use patriotism/history as an example. to accept your countries history as it is, bad and good. not to just take somebody elses values. come to your own conclusion and go forward.What? If he really followed his own advice, the entire Shiranui/Fubuki/Takemikazuchi line should never have existed, because Japan never had any aircraft prototypes. Not to mention that these "history-loving" guys shouldn't have distorted the memory of East Germany and slandered the USSR.
>>22875360can you fucking stop
>>22875414SHE. WOULDN'T. SAY THIS.
making a new thread before the old one is dead is unfair. us tamabros will remember this. don't think we'll take this lightly.
>>22875379just stop responding to him
>>22875457but it's so fun Anon
Sit down Tamafags
>>22875357I'm sure they'll find an excuse when they make this into the first Japanese 4th Gen TSF.
>>22875209Kei thread
>>22875453>>22875574>>22875657they'll regret this>>22875414>ugly bACK-
>>22875453>>22875664Tam-ACK!
>>22876088>disrespecting heroic sacrifice what would her highness say...
did sumika really have to say she enjoyed the rape? also i dont handle used goods, class rep or ayanime for me
Kusomika is a useless whore
Any mech other games that isn't project dickfail for that muv-luv feel?
>>22876521*any other mech games that isn't project mikhail
Takeru is not an ugly bastard is he?
>>228765214th gen+ armored cores have the TSF feel. besides that there's not really anything else that compares. There's not really many good mecha games in general
>>22876664I suppose you're right. This one i'm playing right now is gearbits, kind of like an armored core clone. There's one other game i'd like to try it's called mecha knights nightmare or something. Like earth defense force but player is using a mech
Affordable Lise clones when?
I just finished Alternative. I masturbated to the rape.
>>22877095I just came here to say thisnot the rape part, I also finished Alternative just nowbut it did made me hard
>>22877097>>22877095i'm not really huge into NTR but this scene made my chest go tight and my dick diamonds, probably cuz 99% of ntr is like a 30 page doujin, whereas you've been with sumika for like 80 hours at that point. plus, the NTR is particularly brutal
btw, are the spin-offs worth playing?
don't answer questions for ntr faggots
>>22877115Sex with Yashiro
So do I play melodies or flowers first? Also is there a h-patch yet? I don't want to play unless there's sex.
>>22877095weirdo
>>22877142Flowers.
https://youtu.be/ZorzY_dsk5A
Finished Teito MoyuThe fortified suit helmets are cool wish we got to see them more.Ace Combat style muvluv game whenAlso should I play Front Mission since they're making a new ML with Front Mission devs?
>>22876786Soon
>>22876786She's already plenty affordable
>>22877269Whoever paid him to say this is the most based anon on this board.
Would making the inner frame flat help make a gloss paintjob on the outer armor pop more? Asking more generally but I'm painting my metal gear ray kit and am thinking about having the inner yellow-gold parts be flat with the main body as gloss emerald-green
Tamachads won where it really matters
>>22878002sorry wrong thread, only just noticed
>>22878237Reminder>>22876088
>>22875414Meiyabros...
>>22877102The fact that he claims her back by the end of it makes it vanilla tier desu.
>>22876786Go ask the guys who made the vat-imoutos, they'll have your answer.
>>22878457>>22876786Side effect is they may have silver hair.
>>22878466>original is gold>copies are silverpoetic
erm...sensei?
>>22879517She got what she fucking deserved.
>>22877415Why is she hugging a head?
>>22875625Who knows. The Empire is currently, one might say, overloaded with TSF models of unclear role.1) F-4, old and ineffective from the start (it is unclear why Japan did not receive licensed production of F-5) is available in the Gekeshit and Zuikaku modifications, which are seriously different, and the "guard" also received an additional update in Regenerative. Already 3 + a new update program for F-4 promoted by the USA, can add 4th.2) F-15 J in some quantity + its stealth version of 12 pieces3) Shiranui in several versions + Shiranui 2, as well as its monkey version Fubuki in training and assault versions4) Takemikazuchi in several models with different specifications + individual experimental modifications5) "Aiyu-Mayu Alternative" should we count?In any case, it's a nightmare for suppliers and repairmen.In general, there is almost no real connection with the history of fighter construction in Japan, and it is unclear what the hell they need those that exist. Again, Regenerative promotes the idea that in the war with BETA after Ouka, humans had to reactivate the production of old and simple TSFs, updating them in the process, rather than invent something new.Exogularity and the related ending of the manga imply the presence of interhuman wars, but there, apparently, the emphasis was on the UN TSF, like, joint developments. And where do you order these "new" 4th generation models to be shoved?
>>22880570fuck off retarded vatnik jesus christdo you suppose nations around the world instantaneously replace all of their old models or don't upgrade them at allshut the fuck up already
>>22880570>>22880739you also still don't acknowledge any counterargument to the counterfactual aircraft bullshitkill yourself
>>22880570Fuck off and don't ruin another thread. You have no appreciation for the source material and you're only here to shit your pants constantlyThere is no way your IQ is above 80
>>22879525Why do you larp like this? Pretending to be edgy isn't helping your cause any.
>get into franchise>find out the IP is handled extremely poorlyDamn what a shame
>>22881261Very cute anon! But why is right's face->mfw I see that Kyubey in the backOh fuck off.
Also now I realize all of those are vagina spiders, would you kindly kys fag?
>>22881436It was okay until the kickstarter 10 years ago. scuffed spinoffs that sold just barely enough left and right.Then the kickstarter gave them delusions of grandeur and Kouki actually gaslit himself into thinking selling everything would IMPROVE things
>>22881443
chizuru-bros... I understand now.
>>22882027Dog of the system...
>>22882027I agree with most of this
>>22880739He truly is retarded. His nation does this as does literally every other nation on Earth even if they're super rich. America still operates pre-Vietnam era airframes
>>22882202I wonder what's the oldest airframe still currently in service. Probably something like DC-3.
>>22882212IDK one interesting thing here: There were several cases of Azeri AN-2 biplanes used to hit ground targets in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict in 2020. They converted them into drones in order to bait enemy SAM sites. Once the AN-2 got pinged by AA radar, the Azeris would send missile /drones to the revealed SAM site
>>22879944It's her beloved rival's head.
So how's the gachashit doing? Any chance we'll get Integrate or Resonative ever?
>>22881833Utterly disgusting. MOODDDSS!!!
>>22882864The real disgusting thing is he is using the sample size instead of the full sized version.
>>22882879I get so excited that I can save limitless pictures of cute girls for free I make mistakes sometimes
>>22882832https://game-i.daa.jp/?APP/1661091101Those sales aren't financing shit.
>>22882027link to it?
>>22882027>tama below SSS
Anyone who likes Tama is a pedophile furry
>>22883367Anyone who dislikes Tama has no heart and should get an arrow to the knee
>>22883367I'm not a furry
Reckon the 8 minutes is just an exaggeration? I bet we could all survive longer than that, right? I mean come on. How bad can it really be?
>>22883603the TDA01 intro is a good show of that
>>22883549
>>228836038 minutes is a long time
>>22883826people underestimate how long a few minutes is in combat
>I actually didn't care for unlimited or alternative, my favorite was extra
How would the interaction between these two go down?
>>22884293looks like someone asked for fanart commission of kira and lacus but the artist never heard of them and tried to draw it from a shitty description
>>22884293Strike Frontier had a scene where Kurogane meets Sumika in a and he's just ashamed of what he had become.
>>22875209
I'm making a mecha-themed VN
>>22884737tell us more
>>22884737are you japanese?
Anyone who likes Ilfriede wants retarded children.
Are photon games really worth it? The only reason I pushed through extra was because of the sex
>>22885055you mean the extra parts of the photon games?
>>22885055If you don't like Muv-Luv's high school shenanigans, you don't like Muv-Luv, period.
>>22885063I mean I do but with the expectation of sex. Just like real high school
>>22875209>>22875357In continuation of the semi-canonical 3rd generation TSF with stealth capabilities, let's consider this prototype of the MiG.Unfortunately, nothing really interesting or special. The standard Muv-Luv situation with "incompetent Russians who can't do anything" - the MiG design bureau suffered a virtual failure with its specialized models and, having lost the competition for the new main TSF of the Union to Su, went on a rampage. MiG tried to create an advanced model based on a completely new concept of "stealth" and even, following the "example" of Sufoni, secretly made a deal with Northrock - the result was the MiG 1.44, a quasi-stealth with high maneuverability. The design features of this TSF, in addition to the specific shape of the hull, are engine blocks with two nozzles each.Its fate is... a little strange. This model lost miserably to the Su-47, with its bet on esper technology. ...It is possible that the success of the Su series (judging by the descriptions of the 27/37 that turned out to be not much better than the MiG-29, there is more likely "yet another" failure of the Reds) as such was initially connected with the close cooperation of two translation equipment programs with the intention of creating an esper-TSF?.. However, the MiG 1.44 gave the Soviets a certain experience and knowledge of stealth and other advanced technologies, and also gave a technological reserve for the MiG-29. In addition, the Chinese became interested in it...
>>22885112In general, it is clear that the Japanese do not like the Chinese almost more than the Russians, so the situation with the Chinese stealth TSF is almost uneducated...In short, the Third United Front was quite happy with a combination of copies of communist-capitalist models in a high-low mix for its operations on the Continent, but then the Bao-Feng Test Flight in their J-10X on the Yukon during the Blue Flag exercises happened. "We want our Raptors too!" the Chinese thought and decided to make their own 3rd generation TSF with mahjong and pioneers...The result was... nothing. The nationalists and communists quarreled over literally everything, but then everyone remembered Cui Yifei, who had a Taiwanese-Chinese mixed origin (I don't know if TE was banned in China, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was because of the "outrageous" speeches about Taiwan as a "country"), and she remembered the Soviet MiG 1.44 program, which had just recently been banned. The trick of the Chinese league was that this model, in fact, had a mixed Soviet-US technology at its core, which meant that the Chinese would not have to bother with building a "technological balance" between the blocs. The data from the Russians was obtained, of course, secretly, and the joint research enterprise of the Front under the leadership of Cui Yifei began developing a Chinese version of the MiG 1.44, which eventually became the J-20. How successful this TSF turned out to be is not exactly known.
>>22885112An interesting point with the semi-canonical description of the PAK-FA is the actual "failure" of the Infinity squad in its sabotage operation against Soviet laboratories for the study of G-elements. More precisely, the Reds not only observed the Raptors' performance at the Blue Flag, but also "secretly conducted a study of the Rastor materials obtained in the Yukon."Roughly speaking, after watching the Washington show-offs at the exercises and getting a blow in the back from the Yankees during their sabotage at the "incident", the Russians decided to insure themselves for the post-war future and prepare their own stealth TSF. The order was received by Sufoni, who did not "reinvent the wheel" and took the Su-47 as a basis, redesigning its hull for stealth capabilities. Sufoni were able to not only achieve their goal, but also successfully added a supercruise mode and an active stealth system to their new model.It is not yet clear whether it will be comparable to the F-22 or F-35.
>>22885125
>>22885128This is a purely fan version, but it looks great.
>>22885117A fan-made version of the Chinese stealth, probably more focused on close combat.
and this is why I hate post alternativeknowing its going to turn into full gundam
With every moment I spend considering my opinions on the Muv-Luv series, I come to a realisation; Alternative is the worst part of the main trilogy. Extra is the most tightly written and enjoyable entry with not a dull moment, aside from the poorly written sex scenes but that is a criticism I can level at the entire trilogy. Unlimited is excellent worldbuilding, truly building up the BETA as an undefeatable enemy and painting a bleak portrait of the new universe. The ending of Unlimited is beautiful and poignant, a far better ending than what was to come. Alternative is bloated and repetitive. I cannot begin to recall how irritating the post-Extraverse return section is. It feels as if whenever Takeru learns something new he has to tell at least three different people all about it, saying essentially the same thing over and over without the other characters adding anything new in their conversations. The plot only gets more interesting during the Yokohama defence and then Operation Cherry Blossom is great. The coup arc as well grows bloated by the end, despite how engaging it is due to it being the first major divergence in the timeline and being uncharted territory for the reader. For all the hate lacrosse arc gets from the general readership, it was never as bloated and dull as the coup arc's second half.Honestly, if CHOMP and the Extraverse arc weren't so well-executed, Alternative would be easy to file away into the trash, even with the later redeeming features. >>22883873This.
>>22875379Stop what? I'm expressing my opinion and my impressions of ML. If Kouki and Co. do the crap I point out and you don't like it, then what can do?>>22880739>do you suppose nations around the world instantaneously replace all of their old models or don't upgrade them at all The deployment date of Gekeshit is a year later than that of the F-5. And the Freedom Fighter is much better than the F-4, which has been proven directly in real battles. So why the hell would the Japanese adapt the crappy F-4 if they don't need to fight the BETA "right now" and the Imperials can afford to choose? The reference to the fact that this is a "tribute" to the real exploitation of the Phantom in "our" Japan is complete crap, because Koku and Co. show no respect for the history of aviation in TSF in principle. The problem with the Japanese Empire is that the development of the TSF there is jerky and sideways, collecting too many models of different generations and different combat philosophies, which only complicates the situation. Kouki's attempt to suck up Japanese nationalism and make purely Japanese TSFs (while simultaneously making the USSR look like a worthless manufacturer) seriously spoils the whole impression of the franchise - it would have been better if he had simply remade the Japanese TSF scale based on Tokyo's IRL borrowing of fighters from the USA (Patlabor came up with a very nice F-15J Kai).>>22880744>you also still don't acknowledge any counterargument to the counterfactual aircraft bullshit If you're too lazy to read additional materials, then at least read the Trivia in the TSF descriptions on the Wiki and all your counterarguments (what are they, by the way?) regarding some ephemeral respect of Kouki and Co. for the aviation as prototypes of the TSF can be thrown in the trash. By the way, guys, you are so rude and redneck. Do you even know how to speak in normal language or just scream and swear?
>>22882202Upset that Russia buried all Polish dreams of greatness? Cry some more Polack.>>22882832Judging by the characters, the events cannot be set too far in the future, but the NSF in the background is clearly, so to speak, "international". Which is kind of strange, because where did such a development come from and why did the leading manufacturing countries allow their TSFs to be replaced with these?>>22884293By the way, when Takeru dies, will the entire TDA collapse? Or was it planned to somehow combine TDA with the Alternative? Or was the idea in general in a multiverse with really working spatial transitions?>>22885143>knowing its going to turn into full gundamKouki and Co. have backed themselves into a corner, creating a measure of undivided American domination for 2001 with Washington's competitors devoured by BETA... Such a geopolitical projection is generally extremely difficult to develop adequately and plausibly, and in Exogularity with the date of the 2040s there is already a United Earth that has passed and a victory over BETA and human wars after that. In short, these guys will have to somehow sensibly explain how the USA turned from an absolute hegemon into, at best, one of the countries of the Alliance.The same nonsense with the new TSFs, because the remnants of the Soviet Union and the Chinese communists simply do not have their own resources and capabilities for large-scale production of such advanced models even if they manage to develop them, not to mention the lack of personnel (although, purely theoretically, the Russians can solve this problem with cloning (in principle, this will even allow, if necessary, to return young versions of old characters ... with silver hair).Again, all the above-listed semi-canonical descriptions of stealth TSF directly point to the theft of technology as the only source of innovation, which, as it were, looks extremely stupid and rude in relation to other countries.
>>22885153Admit it honestly, you just love guro and death, dude.
>>22885171>By the way, when Takeru dies, will the entire TDA collapse? Or was it planned to somehow combine TDA with the Alternative? Or was the idea in general in a multiverse with really working spatial transitions?Most likely will loop back again... or its the last loop that sends him to alternative. Unless killing Sumika's brain in JFK Hive made it separate timeline since Kouki made a point that if Takeru dies then it loops back and if it doesn't then its likely he's still alive somewhere in some sort, likely a brain in a jar
>>22885175or it could be just another timeline>EXTRA>FINAL EXTRA>UNLIMITED>RESONATIVE>ALTERNATIVE>CAT WORLD
>>22885175I think that its most likely that they want a timeline where BETA remains a constant threat on earth and TDA seems to have more strains of BETA
>>22885173>says the entries without gore or violence are the best>U ONLY LIKE LE GURO!!!What an idiotic response. I don't particularly like gore, and especially not the image of CHOMP. It's extremely disturbing, actually, and not something I can stomach looking at for very long. I said that CHOMP was the best part of Alternative because, well, it is. It's the payoff of 20 hours of Unli and the beginning of Alt establishing the BETA as a threat, and they managed to pull it off so suddenly. The BETA are just a vague concept and you can only abstractly think about their effects on humanity until CHOMP happens, even the interrupted training mission didn't prepare you for the true horror of the BETA. In addition, it perfectly portrays PTSD during the Extraverse segment when you get subtle but noticable flashbacks to CHOMP. Episode 7 is easily the best part of Alternative and only a complete dunce would disagree, nothing comes close to the utter despair that arc inflicts upon both the characters and the reader. Plus, there's none of the bloat or repetition of the other arcs. It's tightly paced and gripping until the very end. The only reason why it took me any significant time to finish is because I closed the game and went to uninstall it after CHOMP is because Marimo is my waifu and I was unironically horrified beyond words, even though I knew what CHOMP was I didn't know who it happened to or when it appeared in the story, the image just stuck with me because of how disturbing it is.
I think if you have a story about humanity on the backfoot and solve it, you can't really progress from that state without resetting it to zero or making it into something that is entirely different. In muv-luv's case it could at least focus on human politics in the aftermath but the weight of the BETA being turned near harmless makes the escalation of human conflict escalation feel less dangerous. IMO, it's better if they just fill in the blanks with more early timeline content like SM or whatever the new jeetland game is supposed to be. Or finish TDA. An example of a series this also happened to would be Halo. Halo 3 concluded the Covenant war and everything Halo Studios (Deadname: 343 Industries) put out afterwards, including expanded universe content, has been panned because none of the stories have the same weight/pressure/stakes behind them. They all focus on the big picture galaxy-wide forerunner stuff rather than that being part of the backdrop for humanity's fight for survival.
>>22885160>>22885171Just bitch at Kouki on twitter or discord instead of shitting up every thread
Happy birthday Aki
>>22885143desu I have zero interest in any of the spin-offs or sequels to Alternative. I was most invested in Takeru's journey and that's it.
>>22885160your impressions are fucking shit and informed by an incomplete and infantile worldview to the exclusion of all other opinions
>>22885160>what are they, by the way?linked to you in the last fucking thread, retard.
>>22885160leave your melt down in the last thread please
>>22875414Nah, I imagine its more like:>Meiya: bratty hung shota>Class rep: old man>Tama & Ayamine: fat ugly bastard>Mikoto: Getting groomed by tsukiyomi>She-koto: only for chad takeru
Since Yuuya's nickname is Top Gun, does that mean the ML universe had its own version of Top Gun filmed with TSFs?
>>22885708kill yourself
>>22886050If you played the game or watched the movie you would know what Top Gun is.
>>22886061Oh, I thought the school was something made up by the movie honestly.
>>22886094Gentlemen, this is the dumbest person in the thread.
>>22886114Sorry I'm not american and I only watched the movie yesterday, I'm reading TE now.
>>22875357>>22880570>>22885112>(and the rest)Anons, i think that you guys are overthinking too much.Kookie will use any excuse to draw some new fancy ROBOTTO KAWAII. and slap a famous namae to the PROJEKTO to be recognizable.Eternal Reminder: /m/echas will never be hard sci-fi.
>>22875360>Well, well, the descendants of the Nazi allies decided to become friends? And they are still saying something about Russia?>SISU land and BANZAI land share some common values>*angry noises from Russ-Chud*>What I mean is that "landing BETA in Africa" would have avoided all the political crap with the USSR and the Eastern Bloc... If it was really necessary to organize an "alien threat" for Japan, then it would have been possible to organize several isolated landing zones for regional battles - like Shikoku for Japan, for example.Oh... that. BETAs have an expansion pattern.at contrary the aliens of Gunparade March, which looks like you described.Imagine TSFs fighting in a Vietnam-Guerrilla warfare. thats how humanity fights in that anime...>Not to mention that these "history-loving" guys shouldn't have distorted the memory of East Germany and slandered the USSR.>Propaganda and revisionism: not even onceCome on, the sequels of "basedcialism" is still present on West Poland :Vand how can i describe the Zharland 2.0? :V:V
>>22877415>Also should I play Front Mission since they're making a new ML with Front Mission devs?i only played the SNES and DS gaems, with the first one untranslated. its fine for me but if you want the extra difficulty , you need to finish the game once or 2 to unlock those.also played FM3 (did not finish it yet)
>>22881436so many cases...>>22881755after what happened , what is left for this franchise?
>>22884737good luck anon!try to not rely heavily on lore, or you can corner yourself sometimes
>>22886288>after what happened , what is left for this franchise?To become a legacy franchise, beloved by those that know it, put out to pasture.
>>22885117>(I don't know if TE was banned in China, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was because of the "outrageous" speeches about Taiwan as a "country")>The "Third Unified Front" has its base in that islandI think the chinks would have better excuses to ban TE.
>>22875360>Not to mention that these "history-loving" guys shouldn't have distorted the memory of East Germany and slandered the USSR.You were the one going "Erm the Stasi actually wasn't that bad guys" "If they were bad then they'd be nazis and they weren't nazis so therefore they werent bad"
Why does everyone hate the Russoid when there's this spoiler tag-abusing faggot constantly posting unrelated shit old memes and typing like a tryhard goth from 2005 era internet? That nigger needs to fuck off way faster than the Russoid, at least his idiocy generates discussion.
>>22886808 two sides of being ESL. I don't think it counts as discussion though when its 3-4 month long reply chains of toddler logic
>>22886808i don't read any posts longer than a handful of lines
>Finished Alternative a year ago>Still think about Muv-Luv dailyAt which point are you supposed to start moving on?
>>22886884You're gonna carry that weight...
>>22886884You want to move on?https://youtu.be/cV_WEOZKmps
>>22884293He would be much less or no longer depressed
>>22886808I hate both of them.
>>22885180>>22885175TDA is very good, but too limited. I mean, there are very few people and production facilities, an acute shortage of resources and wild wear and tear of equipment + shitty landscape and salt storms.If BETA seriously increases its numbers and produces new stamps, Tatsunami and his comrades are practically doomed - there, in general, a miracle is really needed there.>>22886254>Anons, i think that you guys are overthinking too much.You are right, of course, but it is still interesting to find out how a mecha universe can or could develop.For ML, the trilogy became the pinnacle and, in a way, a dead end, since TE and Schwarzesmarken, although they expanded the TSF model range, turned out to be too contradictory in terms of the relationship between lore and logic. TDA turned out to be an excellent replacement and a parallel timeline, but it is too "small" and vulnerable. The subsequent concepts have not yet (?) been fully realized.These stealth models were supposedly created by Kouki himself, but they were not canonically integrated into the world of the Alternative, so here we can speculate a little... Although, in my opinion, the geopolitical picture for 2001 does not allow their appearance.>>22886274>SISU land and BANZAI land share some common valuesRelated to resentment towards Russia? It's funny in its own way, but in the context of a VN about Imperial Japan it's a bit far-fetched.>Propaganda and revisionism: not even onceIn theory, a good author should be above this, but the LN scriptwriters clearly go all out when it comes to the USSR and the Warsaw Pact. I wonder if it was ever explained why Kouki and Co. were so upset by Japan's neighbors?
>>22886057they hated jesus because he spoke the truth
>>22886719It is often argued that Kouki and Co. treat all countries "equally" and that all countries in ML are shitty in their own way, but the examples of "evil and gloomy" East Germany and the Soviet Union directly indicate the true position of the authors - it is easier for them to assign someone to the role of an evil villain than to really bother with a plausible world building.>>22885239What's the point? This guy won't redo the nonsense he's already made and won't reconsider his cliched attitude toward Russians. I simply expressed my opinion and a couple of comments, and if it pisses you off so much, then alas.>>22885379>>22885416>>22885507As usual, there are no sensible arguments. To hell with it.
>>22887257>Related to resentment towards Russia? but in the context of a VN about Imperial Japan it's a bit far-fetched.You know except for when Imperial Japan fought with Imperial Russia (and later the USSR very briefly) in>Khalkhin Gol>Kuril Islands>Manchuria >The First Russo-Japanese War >A dozen other border conflicts involving Japan within Mongolia and ChinaYou're a moron
>>22887275>What's the point? This guy won't redo the nonsense he's already made and won't reconsider his cliched attitude toward Russians.>What's the point?I'm glad we agree now shut up
>>22887275this is why people hate Russians
>>22887275>cliched attitude toward Russians.Your behavior is exactly why this attitude has existed for hundreds of years
>>22887257>Related to resentment towards Russia?Finns wrote songs to celebrate Imperial Japan kicking Russia's ass during the Russo-Japanese warhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sku3wjCuQbM
>>22887257>Tatsunami and his comrades are practically doomed - there, in general, a miracle is really needed there.>TDA 03 has at least four times where they're fucked but Takeru being around somehow prevented that>JFK Hive would have been fucked if Takeru's hope wasn't raised by Hibiki.Honestly, going be screenshots alone, it might actually not go so bad... but still man
>>22887275>a couple of commentsyou've been at this for fucking ages>As usual, there are no sensible arguments>>22885416you're not even a newfag so you're actually just retarded
>>22886123Sorry, that's pretty understandable.
Retard here, what's this TSF's name again?
I'm not typically into glasses, and especially not braided hair or twintails, nor do I particularly like Chizuru's character (I prefer Kei as a character), but her design is pure sex and I want to fuck the everloving shit out of her. She's not even my waifu (that would be Marimo) but I would have extramarital sex with Chizuru until my cock didn't work. Does anyone else feel this way?
>>22888117Su-37UB Terminatorhttps://muvluv.fandom.com/wiki/Su-37_Terminator
>>22888145Man, I was sure it was a fucking Black Widow in the anime. It's Inia/Cryska pilot it right?
>>22888158Yes they pilot it.As for Black Widow, it looks significantly different. However, on the wiki page, it does note in trivia as it bearing a resemblance to the Su-27 series, which the Su-37 is the next generation of.https://muvluv.fandom.com/wiki/YF-23_Black_Widow_II#Trivia
>>22888134its gap moe... her going full dere is hot as fuck
I've just started my first Muv-Luv story that's not about Takeru and his extended harem, what am I in for?
>read TE>They go on about how technical details of improving TSFs and the shitshow it is to develop>realized how truly amazing the XM3 isJesus, no wonder the XM3 blows everything out the water. but also make half of TE so redundant because the XM3's OS basically says fuck you to all the shit they do.
I put off reading MLA for far too long and missed out in the artbook. I deserved this.
JUST EAT THE FUCKING STEAK SAUCE TAKERU YOU FAGGOT JESIS CHRIST. I forgot how much of a BITCH Extra Takeru was. He deserves nothing.
>>22888447He was perfectly willing to eat his steak so long as he was allowed to season is as he pleased. Sumika's tyranny cannot be tolerated. We must dissent!
>>22888447>>22888466It was an unironically the perfect view of how much of a controlling bitch she was and would force Takeru into her will and everyone saying that Takeru should feel bad for not thinking her way. Fuck that
>>22888134>my waifu (that would be Marimo)>tfw we were robbed of the Marimo routegod, it would have been more extra painful if wasn't
>>22887257>>22887332>>22887275oh no no no no
>>22888443it's translated in english in the archive and you can usually get a jp copy for 4-8k yen off yahoo auctions
Modern Zuikaku model kit when?
>>22887165enjoy the waifu and gurorape faggotry, kiddo.sorry if i didnt update my maymay folder to your taste
>>22888490doubt.jpgin Extra is the bad ending. you want more suffering, anon?
>>22889283Your memes and image spam are the least of my concerns. You don't even type like a respectable person.
>>22887257>You are right, of course, but it is still interesting to find out how a mecha universe can or could develop.>develop>TSF weapons range are 4000 meters, at max>get 360NOscope by Laser classes from 12 to 20 kilometers and beyond , because you are so tall that only buildings can conceal your ass>the same robots are still vulnerable to smaller strains, get pinned down and finally overrun by the rest (only the 3rd gens truly mitigates that flaw)>Tried getting more "speed" to get fast in combat and get out >to an amalgamation of VTOL-plane-robot>Mig-25 and 31 are fielded, and fails miserably (of course, with the basic structure of TSFs , nobody can get a stable, OR , supersonic flying BRICK, without a transformation or changing the surfaces of TSFs, which did not happen, unsurprisingly)>Tried Orbital Landing, fails miserably , again (even with support, you are asking to get LAZER´D)>30 years "researching" MUH GUHNS for "the tip of spear ">muh "develop"nah, miss me with THAT gay shit.Kouki created a monster too OP, and the heroes (TSFs) retarded but "cool". The rest? painted in cardboard.
somehow I was thinking that the series finally got the coed shower scene that it had been teasing since the start, but now I can't remember when it actually happened. am I just imagining things?
frogposters deserve the rope
>>22889290It would make CHOMP more extra painful ngl
I just purchased both muv luv anime deluxe boxsets. I'm not gonna watch them.
>>22889583I got the clear TSF kits for like 3k yen each instead. Can't believe I almost spent $200 on each when they came out.
what books do I read for Muv Luv feel? why are books so bad at getting me interested in characters? why are all books the females are turbo cunt sluts
>>22889662what "books" have you read? Consider LN
>>22889363Takeru showers with Chizuru if that's what you're remembering
>>22889702closest i've read was starship troopers but that's more of a coming of age and worldbuilding story. Forever war was boring. i want actual books with stories
>>22889662You can read the multigenerational family epic that starts off as a normal literary drama in the 1990s and ends as a mechs vs kaiju war in the 2030s that I'll write one dayWho am I kidding I'll never write this shit, there is nowhere for you to go
Because fighter aircraft are the apex predator of war, they incorporate technology from many fields, and if a new technology is developed it too will be crammed into the next generation of aircraft. Because of this, military aircraft are exponentially expensive to develop and the world kind of hit a brick wall decades ago with the F-22 still being the best and the latest next-gen fighters from around the world still being a compromise beneath it. So it's pretty normal that weapons development would kind of stop in muv-luv as well.The F-4 is my favorite craft, it's the one I'd want to pilot if I was isekai'd to deathworld. It has a major advantage which isn't touched on pretty much anywhere but matter-of-factly represented in Faraway Dawn, which is its thick armor gives you a much higher chance of surviving if you get grappled by tank-class. If your only chance of surviving is the rookie pilot next to you unloading with their gun on you, the F-4's the only craft that stands a chance. Besides that, old and numerous weapons have a quality of their own in the training soldiers have with them and the culture rookies can draw from -part of the reason why despite many attempts to develop a new modern rifle every major nation has decided to stick with the same guns they were using just after WW2. Speaking of arrested development I heard the BETA weren't supposed to be codified into the classes we see, like there were implicitly other strains that just didn't get put in the VNs, but I can't remember where. I think I'd have a hard time getting invested in TSFs that are more powerful than the shiranui and takemikazuchi unless the BETA pulled another rabbit out of their hat.
>TSFs would be obsolete once BETA are gone
>>22889910>inferior firepower than tanks and lesser mobility than airplanesThis is literally just wrong, though? He's right otherwise.
>>22889913Seems like a TSF sort of fills the same role as a helicopter in my mind; not as fast as a jet but nimble, and they have some amount of armor. I think they'd be able to defeat tanks and other armored infantry unsupported but a strike fighter would make short work of them, although the same is true of helicopters of course. However TSFs have got to be ungodly expensive compared to either so that could make them a very specialized unit on a post beta battlefield.
>>22889913Depends on your definitions for both of those terms.>fire powerDo you define fire power by volume, caliber, or range? Does a vehicle with a single 155mm howitzer have more firepower than a vehicle that can launch GMLR? The GMLRS has more range, has a greater area of AOE, has more explosives in total but can't penetrate a bunker as effectively. It depends on application. >mobilityTSF would be hyper mobile in a smaller area but suffer doing long range stuff. A fighter jet can physically maneuver at greater speeds, altitudes. A lot of weapons can't be deployed properly at lower altitudes. Also consider how fighter jets have simpler maintenance, You can launch a fighter from Hawaii, change the tires in Guam and get an ariel refuel over Vietnam before bombing China. A fighter can carry large stuff like glide bombs or cruise missiles, a TSF cannot. I like to think of mobility as a holistic thing rather than "does x go faster than Y in z" Can you transport the maintenance crew and equipment fast? How much infrastructure do you need to support sorties? How much space do you need to service them?Your mobility suffers if you can't sustain long distance stuff. However nobody would argue that a fighter is more mobile than a TSF fighting in some subterranean bunker >>22889943This. TSF are more dexterous but lack endurance to put it in gamer terms
>>22889967>area of AOEI'm retarded oops
>>22889967Sure, a TSF probably doesn't have the same sort of penetration that a tank's cannon does, but TSFs are also loaded with a lot of other ordnance similar to helicopters, like >>22889943 mentions. So it doesn't really make sense as a basis for comparison. I had taken mobility to mean agility, but I can see the other meaning, now.
>>22889703it was some kind of monke paw thing so it must have been from the gacha or the anime
>>22887278>You know except for when Imperial Japan fought with Imperial RussiaYou misinterpreted what I wrote. It's not about the number of conflicts between Russians and Japanese, but about the fact that the Finnish and Japanese women, discussing their countries, almost first of all mentioned the conflict with Russia. It turns out that their countries have NOTHING ELSE worth discussing? That's bad, if so.>>22887332Then not only the Finns, even many representatives of the opposition and even groups of citizens from among the Russians themselves rejoiced at the victories of the Japanese... The government of Nicholas II had seriously screwed up in many ways by that time and had lost the support of the population... A very shameful moment in the history of my country.>>22887282>I'm glad we agree now shut upNope. If I see nonsense and gibberish in ML, I point it out. If it pisses you off, that's your problem.>>22887287Yeah, we're always destroying your cozy echo chambers.>>22888590Well, time has put everything in its proper place - Japan lost the war for its empire and became a vassal of the United States, and Red Russia became one of the poles in the Cold War.>>22887311And you are a model representative of those who hate Russia, because you are a descendant of those who tried to destroy it and failed? Well, continue to suffer.
>>22890178You lost the cold war. get over it> Red Russia became one of the poles in the Cold War.became Poles you say?
>>22887563>Honestly, going be screenshots alone, it might actually not go so bad... but still manWell, there are no exact figures as far as I know, but humanity in TDA seems to be on the verge of technological decline and degradation simply because too many specialists and capacities have been lost. "Seattle" is unlikely to be able to support high-tech production for a long time, and collecting resources and remnants of technology from the surrounding areas is not able to help close all the gaps. Not to mention that humans can no longer support space infrastructure and the breakthrough of a new hive from the Moon is already a matter of time, not probability. Something like a "miracle" is really needed there.>>22888117Su-37UB. Soviet TSF, which was a development of the Su-27, in a modification for esper pilots.The Yankees sarcastically call the Su series "Soviet F-14s", which, given the specifics of the descriptions of the Russian TSF in the ML as "stolen technology from the West", is most likely true.>>22888427>but also make half of TE so redundant because the XM3's OS basically says fuck you to all the shit they do.The new OS has significantly simplified and improved the management of the TSF, but in TE the problem was more in the exchange of technologies and the combination of design philosophies... as well as the confrontation between manufacturers and states.Roughly speaking, the Active Eagle is very fast and maneuverable, but it eats up a huge amount of fuel and is very limited in operating time + it does not have additional weapons. Considering that the goal of the Yukon project is to improve the TSF to combat BETA, the presence of a model like the Active looks strange.On the other hand, the Su37UB was developed as an anti-BETA model, but because of the psionic component, the Soviets will not share their developments.As a result, it turns out to be some kind of crap, not "international cooperation".
>>22889361In general, not everything is so bad. The Europeans developed mobile artillery tactics and heavy guns for the TSF, the Japanese presented the over-the-horizon cannon and railgun, the Russians developed the esper-TSF. Updating old models with new technologies allowed them to significantly improve their capabilities. Michiru mentioned the development of beam weapons for the TSF - so this combat equipment was slowly developing. Of course, there are some misunderstandings. For example, why weren't TSF-style "grenade launchers" developed for the S-11, because this could have become an acceptable replacement for tactical nukes and a good tool for clearing areas of BETA?>>22889846Still, I disagree. The main reason for the quick replacement of these oafs with F-5 was the lack of maneuverability. The main thing for the TSF and its pilot is the ability to freely attack the BETA from any direction and choose the distance of this battle yourself. Many deaths in ML and TDA are due to the fact that the Aeshi stuck in one place for too long and/or lost the ability to maneuver. If the BETA gets to the TSF, then the armor will not help much, it is better to have the ability to actively maneuver and retreat.>>22889910>>22889913>>22889943Many probably remember the tank ambush on the Stasi TSF in Schwarzesmarken? There are a couple of nuances.Over 30 years, many countries have lost their skills in producing fighters of classical aviation and the threat from the sky may be somewhat exaggerated. As for helicopters and tanks + MLRS, the TSF can replace them all and with much greater efficiency. Not to mention the significant psychological effect of the appearance of fast "steel giants" on the battlefield.I believe that the guys who invested money in the F-22 and Su-47, for example, understand more than Vincent and the TSF will be significant even after the war with BETA. Again, Exogularity shows that in the 2040s, the TSF still serves as a powerful weapon of humanity.
>>22890190Rather, our own leadership surrendered the country to the enemy in exchange for promises. And you, morons, were unable to take advantage of your victory. Now we do what we want again, and even befriend your enemies... Russia lost wars, but then became stronger. Let's see how the current round ends."Pole of Power" aka "Superpower", ignoramus.
>>22889967What's the stuff below the bomb? Avionics to control the descent, I'm guessing?
>>22890298Sort of. It's a kit to convert bombs into glide bombs.
>>22890298its a glide bomb kit like >>22890301said. Strap it onto a dumb bomb to make it a smart bomb
>>22890178>>22890190>>22890240>>22890281faggot>>22887617
>>22890240>Something like a "miracle" is really needed there.As long as Takeru there. There's literal hope but also a deadline. TDA can only long as long as Takeru lives
>>22890799Makes me curious what TDA Takeru would react should he get to see his old world again.
>>22890859Tears. Strike Frontier had scenes like that. TDA Takeru is just a depressed as fuck operative doing dirty shit for Makabe and Ikaruga
>>22890868>Makabe and IkarugaWhat the hell is their deal?
>>22890292I've never seen so much cope in my life
>>22890944Saving what's left that can be saved.Kurogane just the guy that does the killing for them
>>22890281>The main thing for the TSF and its pilot is the ability to freely attack the BETA from any direction and choose the distance of this battle yourselfThat's an awfully american way of looking at it Ivan. Sooner or later you have to engage the BETA at melee range, and the primary cause of death is that the best way to gain experience is the best way to die. TSFs that are easy to control and forgive mistakes are just as important as the high-end fighters. It's a VN in the end and there's not enough depiction to draw conclusions, I just think a TSF that can stand up to friendly fire is more useful considering most pilots die to the tank class.>>22890944He's the only one thinking about what will happen the day after. People won't follow a cruel leader, but when we see what horrors are visited upon us for our lack of foresight, we have no choice but to engage in cruelty.
No Place like a stage is so hyped ngl
How would you implement the Muv-Luv TSFs and story into an SRW crossover? Might be cool
Man, everyone coming to do that Laserjagd brought tears to my eyeballs.
What is with Muv Luv Tactics?How is the company keeping afloat with all their poor business decisions?
>>22891829if it goes under, i hope a really shit companies buys it then forever neglects the IP so this god forsaken franchise can just end
>>22888134she really does have a good-girl-with-a-great-bod-falling-on-hard-times-and-resorting-to-porn-for-easy-money look about her just like her mom before her
>>22886884rarely can i call a story 'life-changing'. funnily enough for me their both VN's, MLA and clannad.
is there a pre-patched version of altered fable? the only story i really wanna read out of photonmelodies is that, plus i want the NSFW CG's.I cant into patching shit desu
>>22891829>What is with Muv Luv Tactics?Mikhail developers are doing a kickstarter to make a new game instead of fixing mikhail
>>22892031newfag here. Do the owners just kickstart new projects constantly without seeing them through? I don't actually pay attention to much but that seems like a running theme around here
>>22892127Newbro... I...
Is there an archive of the total eclipse CGs with the hard nipples? sadpanda has nothing
>>22892127yeah
>>22892335no dumbass
on a scale of 1 to 10 how shit is mikhail?
>>22892127the first kickstarter was in like 2015 for the trilogy translationthe second kickstarter was for the all ages kiminozo release this yearboth of those existed because visual novels are a memeMikhail had no kickstarter, the new owners of the IP funded that shit and the gacha themselves because they thought they could turn the IP into a cashcow like Fate. Now that mikhail was a complete failure and the gacha had to be completely rebooted, they're not willing to finance more stuff so tactics has to beg for crowd funding.
>>22892801I didn't play it at release, it seems like your typical film/anime tie-in action videogame like back in the 2000s. Which is to say - it's mediocre to shit
>>22892801Also they could've just copied the g4drphood EDF parts 1:1 and coat it with Muv-Luv paint and everybody will be happy but no they had to make it shit
>>22892895*the good EDF parts 1:1
For the poorfags out there, Muv-Luv is on sale again at steam
>>22892906It's on sale every month
>>22889967NTA, i add my 2 cents:the pilot training is more complex than helicopters and jet fighters. not everybody could be trained, let alone master the controls of TSFs. With fewer and fewer "candidates" as time passes, you better get a simple machines (as in , a drastic change), or those robots with jets strapped on their asses are not going anywhere...
TMfag here. Am I allowed to post yet without everyone getting angry at me and calling me Paul?
>>22893236>me on the right:
>>22890281 >the Japanese presented the over-the-horizon cannon >3 to 5 shots, after that, its just a piece of metal that can explode in your faceBut, dont get me wrong. ITS A GOOD CONCEPT. the metodology (multi-stage explosions) and use (1200mm caliber is INSANE) is the problemKouki got inspired by this shit (probably)>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-3_cannona 120mm (tank caliber) propelled like a coil gun to 15 or 20 kilometers (at linear shot) could be more desirable... which leads to the...>"rail gun" in TE>it behaves like a ray weaponuhhh...>the Russians developed the esper-TSFUUHHHHHH...>If the BETA gets to the TSF, then the armor will not help much, it is better to have the ability to actively maneuver and retreat.See, thats the inherent problem with the TSFs.A "Heavy Tank" (at least, 2 or 3 times bigger, or that cant get opened by Tank Class.) could run over the smaller strains, and if those "hop in" the hull or the turret, a nearby tank with its weapons could "spray on" or "bug off" , like what tank crews did in WW2.You CANT do that with TSFs , as it could destroy the machine or worse.>For example, why weren't TSF-style "grenade launchers" developed for the S-11Ask your military guys how much costs a thermobaric bomb...even if we cant calculate how much TSFs were built or in service, all indicates that it was not possible to make en masse. Only those were tasked with hive infiltration got that red button.>Takamura´s Leader had one of those>it failedwelp... that was an awful tango to watch...
>>22890281>Over 30 years, many countries have lost their skills in producing fighters of classical aviation and the threat from the sky may be somewhat exaggeratedthat would not be a problem.With the "Super Carbon" of that universe (a IRL counterpart would be Graphene), imagine how strong and lighter a jet fighter could be.lets not forget that planes does not have too much variation because aerodynamics...
>>22891375>I just think a TSF that can stand up to friendly fire is more useful considering most pilots die to the tank class.>36mm bullets with depleted uranium, that probably have more penetration than the GAU-8 from the A-10 "tank buster"If there were some "special ammo", loaded with less powder and more "buckshot" to require less aiming, it could work...
>>22892801-4it's complete garbage. see for yourself and try not to laugh when you get to the vr chat model cutscenes
Rumbling hearts in 2 hours
>>22893462i've never seen negative hype for a game release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34a_lSYcaS0
>>22893493>game
>>22893498I've still never seen less hype for anything, actually.
>>22893500Shikata ga nai
>>22893509doctored image
>>22893514so ka?
https://fixupx.com/muvluvseries/status/1847090629459038600https://fixupx.com/muvluvseries/status/1847090631543607403?s=46&t=J6-yfgwQmBpASXKb0h7MNgEvery time you think they can't fuck up any worse, they find a way.
>>22893275It's a common misunderstanding that the A-10 can destroy an MBT with its gun, they use missiles for that, but there's also different degrees of damage with vehicles compared to squishy humans, for instance an A-10 will sometimes gun a tank because they might get lucky and hit something delicate. You might destroy your comrade's TSF but leave them safe inside with a chance to bail out.. But yeah, I was thinking a special ammunition for cleaning off tank-class is an unexplored concept that ought to be effective.The way I see it, tanks are perfectly capable of kiting and containing BETA, but the ayys will just build up until saturation and you can't survive that by running. So a TSF's speed is more for improving their close-range effectiveness. At least in the games, the game-breaking strategy is to have a few elite pilots in high-end crafts take a forward defensible position and have a bunch of low-end TSFs back them up.
>>22893650kek. Talk about last minute. That decision must've been made MINUTES before release. Hopefully it won't be bugged like the recent Fate port.>>22893275The A10 is actually pretty bad. It hasn't been able to penetrate a modern tank with its gun for decades. The best it can do with its gun is get a mobility kill by trashing the treads or crushing the lasers/sights required for aiming.
>>22893786The game was already available to backers but I don't think it had any bugs, just some very lazy typesetting and typos.
>>22893880And lines that were translated incorrectly. The entire think is jank as fuck compared to previous releases, and given the entire old translation team were given the boot to be replaced by an ESL Japanese translator, you can tell. This release was cursed long before this moment, which is just piss icing on a turd cake. Watch them cut even more of the VN out to get past the Steam censors.
>>22893759that strategy seems good...>>22893786when the A-10 entered in service, most of the tanks were second generation, with some of them having thinner armor compared to the rest of MBTs.now, from 3rd gen of MBTs onwards, that gun got obsolete. but still can wreck up other vehicles in a uncontested air space.Now, back to the TSFs...some 36mm explosive ammo will trash their armor in one sweep in the best scenario. (the F-4s, for example)On the other hand, one bullet in the wrong place...
>>22893650Well shucks
>>22893134Is it? I've pirated Muv-Luv a long time ago. Just pulled the trigger on actually buying when it was in a humblebundle.
>>22893257Uhhh, let me try to post something more interesting for you.Here you go.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiya-gY59UI
>>22893927Kouki is honestly such a fucking faggot for arguing with fans on discord about how all ages kiminozo is totally okay and a valid way to experience the gamenot only did they make additional censors to the console version to get it on steam, turns out all that pre-censorship wasn't even enough and they'll have to censor more.
>>22894047is there a fan patch for the Japanese version? I will never learn Nihongo
oh yeah, time to get away from here for a few weeks
where the fuck is kiminozo
>>22894700See>>22893650
>>22894390no. a team member of the official MLA translation had an entire script done and offered to sell it to Anchor, but they wanted him to agree to never say anything bad about the company or other translators so the deal didn't happen.I suppose it doesn't matter because that translation was for the adult version which Anchor never had any plans to release
>>22894704i hope this company burns down to the ground
>>22888134keep my wife's name out your mouth
My fucking heroes...
>>22894700Some dumb dating sim that everyone finds highly relatable because the main heroine ends up with the same brainrot as them.
>>22888134She's a flawed prototype of Izzy at best.
>>22894994he said where retard
>>22895048Sorry, car ran over me in a contrived soap opera scene.
hayase bros...
I've been away from this general for a few years, wtf is going on with kimi ga
>>22895385They censored it for All AgesIt wasn't censored enough for steam so they took a day to censor it moreIt STILL wasn't censored enough for steam so they're censoring it more
>>22894994kek
>>22888134Good hatefuck bait. Giving worst girl a great body always works.
How far would this slut go for morale?
>>22895422I know it's redundant to say, but seriously what the fuck is with Steam and visual novels, but then they have insane shit like Sex with Hitler.
>>22894995Get off this board kys
>>22895469Steam is so weird. I downloaded Koikatsu party to steal some Muv Luv models and there's genital customization options, hell in the graphics options there's settings for cum textures. Its nonsense. How is that allowed but my text-based smut isn't?
i guess some basedboy at steam must have a personal vendetta against vns
I couldn't find any Tama models at all. Plenty of SM girls though so I'll do those at some point. Unfortunately none of the people I'm stealing from made all of the girls so the styles won't match. There's a really good Kei but if I use her then it will make Sumika look bad and so forth.
>>22895518It's a long running issue that's blocked multiple publishers putting games on Steam, probably costing both them and Valve millions over the yearsthere is someone (or multiple) people at Valve abusing their position to play content cop specifically against specific types of Japanese games
>>22895549Why though? Its not the first time I've heard this conspiracy theory. On average Japanese games score lower with reviewers like IGN. Things like JRPG are basically guaranteed lower review scores but I think its more likely a cultural issue. Just like how Japs don't like FPS games in the same way that we do.
>>22895551before the Great Post-OWS Enshittening of 2012 it was just dudebros being dudebros fluffing up domestic releases over foreign onesafter that it was effeminate feminist 'allies' and other types of useful idiots being neo-puritans to piss off THE ENEMY, and then later those types of fags got into positions where they could straight up alter or prevent said content from appearing entirely so they did just that both for the power trip and to further piss off THE ENEMY
>>22895551it's literally just 2 or 3 people working at valve that hate anime games and because of the way valve is structured there's no one to stop them.
>>22875209Kei my beloved...
>>22895451Not far as I'm breeding her myself.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF0AQiHHgmYso what's this about
>they never thought of collabing with sandlot to make a muv luv x EDF gameThese nips have zero business sense.
>>22895756For me? It's making a crossover with Armored Core so we'd get From Soft to make a Muv-Luv game
>>22895756Yeah, how the Fencer moves around is literally a TSF
Humanoid aliens! They look just like humans!
>>22895763Now that's just unrealistic. Sandlot might not capture the feel of piloting a TSF as well, but at least the BETA killing would be satisfying. It would definitely end up being a better product than whatever Mikhail is. A man can dream though.
>>22895774Is this achievable natty?
>>22895751>no subtitles availableI will never know
So this is what it's come to
wtf
>>22895823>>22895828still pushing this kind of slop instead of making a proper action game
>>22895836However
do you recognize them by their portraits?
>actual timeline
SPACE
>>22895874Do you truly expect me to believe all these games are happening for real?
its basically reskin front mission lmao
>>22895881Surely that's simpler to do than an armored core clone, I wonder how they'll manage to fuck it up
>>22895854Think so.Mel, Big Momma, Marimo-chan, JFK Commondore Hamburger, Lilia, Will, Ilfriede, Jupiter, company dog, White Wolf, Brigitte, NotMeiya, Fabulous Baron, Black Wolf.
>>22895875If only I had a dime every time they said "speehs elewaytaar" in the stream...
>>22895874What is Duty Lost Arcadia?
>>22895946https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_tCyMPDNGM
>>22895967Always interested in the eurofront, I guess it's supposed to be an actual VN? So probably never happening...
>>22895823>>22895828Bro I thought this was Tactics at first kek
>>22895828>>22895823mobile games were a mistake
>>22895881If it ends up as good as Front Mission, I say mission accomplished but with their track record I'll be cautious.
>>22890582>>22891124Well, if you have nothing relevant to say, then go to hell, you worthless boor.
>>22890799But what can he do without Yuuko-sensei? No matter how good a pilot he is, it's not enough.Bridges, for example, managed to become a hero against the laser fort because he had the support of the esper girls in his kamikaze attack.There's nothing in TDA that could surpass the standard level of technology, aka "BETA will eat you up as soon as their numbers allow it.">>22890944They work to preserve and revive Japan in a Machiavellian style. Not that they are good guys, but in TDA it is more useful to be a realist. Takeru suffers from "the hell of his life" - PTSD + lousy reality, and in addition to being a martyr, he works as a liquidator.>>22891375>That's an awfully american way of looking at it Ivan.>>22891375>I just think a TSF that can stand up to friendly fire is more useful considering most pilots die to the tank class.> I just think a TSF that can stand up to friendly fire is more usefulA damaged TSF is practically a dead man, so if you want to save the pilot, it is best to improve the ejection and pilot rescue systems.Again, let me remind you that armored TSFs like the F-4 were considered ineffective and all subsequent models, except for highly specialized ones, relied on mobility.>>22891481https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfzQbErzlHU>>22891664Well, Bridges and Inea seem to be alive, but if the Soviets couldn't ultimately clear the battlefield and secure this point, then both the Shiranui 3 and the Su-47s will gobble up the remaining BETAs...>>22891829>What is with Muv Luv Tactics?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enpIqJhEdW8It is in the hands of untalented and greedy people, while enthusiasts can simply make good games out of a desire to create.
>>22896071>There's nothing in TDA that could surpass the standard level of technology, aka "BETA will eat you up as soon as their numbers allow it."Yuuko's not the only genius left. There's a reason Ikaruga and Co are using her research and allying with ALT V scientists to make shit happen. Though Yuuko's just spacetime levels of BS
>>22896041keep crying bitch nigga
>>22895556>Great Post-OWS Enshittening of 2012I am not familiar with this event. I'm too young. I cannot recall anything pre 2014
>>22893258>But, dont get me wrong. ITS A GOOD CONCEPT.It can be further improved, especially since it has shown results in at least one of the timelines. In addition, it is extremely convenient to knock down large BETA strains from such a thing.>it behaves like a ray weaponA rate of fire that killed several thousand BETAs with one burst. And in TDA, a couple of these really helped with clearing out the hive. So what's wrong?>UUHHHHHH...One TSF with esper pilots easily destroyed 1500 different BETA strains in one battle. If you can increase the characteristics of the machine by "enhancing" the pilot, then why not?>A "Heavy Tank" (at least, 2 or 3 times bigger, or that cant get opened by Tank Class.) could run over the smaller strainsAre you a tankophile or something? Just watch the episode of TE about Kamchatka tanks against BETA and please don't write any more nonsense.>You CANT do that with TSFsThe TSF doesn't need this, because they either have carbon blades on their armor, or active armor blocks, or swords/axes/chainsaws, or they're already considered dead TSF.>Ask your military guys how much costs a thermobaric bomb...The cost of defeat from BETA is, in any case, many times higher.>Takamura´s Leader had one of thoseThis arc about the fall of the Capital put the Japanese Imperial Guard in such a bad light that even TSFIA about Maya and Ikaruga with their heroic breakthroughs and stoic fights can't save Japan's "best fighters" from shame.>>22893267>With the "Super Carbon" of that universeBut first the fighter needs to be developed, and that's no easy task. Only a few IRL countries are capable of fully ensuring the creation of such aircraft from drawings to the embodiment in metal - in ML, with the extremely limited production base of many countries already loaded with TSF, developing jet fighters "for the future" is a dubious undertaking. It will most likely be TSF against TSF (Raptor was development in the form of a mecha).
>>22896082I meant that I cannot recall internet happens pre 2014
>>22893275>If there were some "special ammo", loaded with less powder and more "buckshot" to require less aiming, it could work...How about TSF-sized automatic grenade launchers with shrapnel ammo against the smaller BETAs? Or just up-caliber TSF assault rifles and give them frag ammo?>>22893941>Now, back to the TSFs...Well, considering that the main enemy of the TSF is large biological objects, then, in theory, 36mm shells for them should not have armor-piercing properties in the first place, but rather be explosive or deformable bullets?>>22895451If you have a deficiency of "Nippon Damashi" then no way.>>22895874This is a direct illustration of the theme of "inflated expectations".>>22895875Space versions of TSF are interesting, of course, but...First, why? Orbital stations shoot down BETA landings on Earth, not TSF.Second, what is that space elevator in the background? As far as I remember, space fleets in ML are based on spaceplanes and cope well with the role of Earth-Orbit delivery.So, another parallel universe or a new retcon? By the way, has anyone been able to figure out what region is there on the surface of the Earth, under the clouds?
>>22896138>So, another parallel universe or a new retcon?The future, anon. It's THE FUTURE.
>>>22891375>>That's an awfully american way of looking at it Ivan.The Yankee "strategy" is "shoot" and that's it. Almost all of their TSFs have no cutting edges on their armor and are not equipped with normal melee weapons other than knives. And the ammo tends to run out... Equipping the TSF with equipment for combat at all ranges is the key to increasing the combat effectiveness and survivability of pilots. That's why I like the Soviet MiG-29s the most, because they can fire from 4 barrels and cut BETA with 4 limbs + S-11. (They are also good at exterminating rebels.)In the picture is a MiG-35.
>>22896138>>22896139It's mostly something like 30+ years after BETA's gone and might be Master's rebellion
>>22895470no.
>letting the two retards bat it outepic
I don't understand why this infographic is equating various Muv-Luv games with the names of Gundams
>>22896238Z Ages is like, the new engine they developed, or osmething
>>22896238It's just so fucking cringe to me they have the balls to release something like this with 0 dates on itfriendly reminder that in 2019 kouki said TDA04 would be out within 3 years
>>22896344And it will be... but he didn't say within 3 years of when.
>>22896365he actually did, he literally said they would release it within 3 years no matter what state it is in to finally give people closure on TDA.
>>22896036I feel like it'd not be as fun without the customization of FMit and AC were popular because of autistic levels of customization>>22896082>>22896129way too long to explain especially without getting into /pol/ territory but basically identity politics was injected into every facet of society, even the internet, and brainwashed retards waged war on video games because it made people they don't like mad, and here we are in 2024, the most divided we've been socially and politically in the nation's history
>>22896379Oh you meant Occupy WS right? GG was my introduction to the Internet so I wasn't around for the good times
>>22896254So what happens when they run out of UC era Gundams and start using AU names?What happens when they get to AGE-AGES?
It's a shame Meiya's VA just disappeared from the industry after Muv Luv, she's really cool
>>22896238Where the steam release of SM?
>>22896469We'll get AGES-G, AGES-Wing, and eventually AGES-Witch.
>>22896152>And the ammo tends to run out...US Army logistics laughs in the face of the very concept
>>22896587If you think the cuts to KimiNozo are bad, wait until you see how much they'll have to cut out of SM to get it on Steam. All the pro-Nazi shit for a start.
>>22896670Acutal nazi stuff or hurts tankie feelings stuff?
>>22896670So nothing at all.
>>22896568She simply retired anon.
>>22896344>>22896365>>22896369I thought one of the problem with TDA is that they wanted Kira's VA and Meiya's old VA to voice one last time
>>22896721no, they recast literally everyone for the anime and instantly announced it will carry over to the entire franchise going forward.
>>22895090Agaaah!
>>22895448nah, not hate fuck, more like taming-fuck
>>22896071Alright that was an attempted wind down, but I guess you could interpret it that way.The F4 started as a lunar combat TSF where low gravity would change its handling and stray bullets/shrapnel in a vacuum would be a hazard. Its bad reputation has to do with the early misunderstandings of how a terrestrial TSF should fight eg weak actuators and lack of laser-resistant material. But the F4 was the first TSF and thus the most industrialized; historically the best wartime designs have fulfilled bare minimum viability while being produced in eye-watering numbers, such as the Ilyushin Il-2 which occupied the germans and gave the red army an air presence despite being ineffective.That said the old F4 and the new F4 are different, said to be on the level of 2.5gen fighters with upgraded actuators and engines. Realistically the TSFs are all carrying half their weight in ammo so the F4's armor alone wouldn't make that much difference.The fastest TSFs are depicted as being the best at holding their ground at melee range, with Tsukuyomi being able to fight indefinitely while surrounded and not suffer even wear and tear, but those craft are also said to be much harder to pilot, moreso not to stress the airframe too much, and having high maintenance costs. While the fubuki and F4 are said to be easy to pilot with the skilled graduating to the shiranui or F15 respectively.Pilots are frequently depicted dragging down their comrades the second a tank class climbs on one by panicking, refusing to bail out, and shooting their allies in desperation while their allies stop fighting to try and peel of the tank class with a knife. In the games, the right thing to do is just shoot anyone grappled with 36mm, and the F4 tends to suffer fewer casualties when that happens, as well as surviving lasers while a flat-footed shiranui evaporates.My point is objecting to your idea of discarding useful material, and the F4 having desirable qualities for new pilots and the high-low mix.
what car is yuuko's car supposed to be?
>>22895756>>22895763>22895771>22895783maybe those scenarios will never happen because Age/anchor/whatever-is-called-now are still a small studio/enterprise IMO.And with >>22895823 example, does not help at all...
>>22895881 >>22895897 >>22896036>radius instead of square gridsthere is a FM that have this mechanics?also>not showing the customization>almost no visual parameters>stats as percentageeven when FM1 was in japanese i understood how to tune the Wanzers by looking the numbers and the interface. it seems like a lost art nowadays.
>>22897030
Cpl. Canales :3
>>22896670>displaying the German race in any manner remotely positive is Nazifuck off tankoid
>>22896093>Are you a tankophile or something? Tanks are simpler machines compared to TSFs, and considering the numbers needed to sustain a frontline , an EFFECTIVE land force not only could hold the ground, it can push to the hives , for the TSFs to do its job.>Just watch the episode of TE about Kamchatka tanks against BETASending MBTs to "charge" (to a beachhead) against mass numbers is the most stupid thing ANYONE could do.in a normal land scenario (not the case of Gulag Archipielago) First line would be SPAAGs and IFVs, shredding any small strains that comes.Second line are MBTs that will intercept mid strains that are armored , ie. Destroyer and Grapplers.Soviet/Russian tank doctrine in Cold War was using it with helicopters as a main force of assault. But, with Laser classes denying use of anything aerial, A T-62-72-80-90 are in the worse case scenario (under-armored, under-gunned, and over-runned when trying to retreat)Sending those tin cans WITHOUT any support is awf- , i mean, the very thing BLYATmans would do.with all that said, by the moment the chinkoid army was FUBAR (since 1974), the soviet would realize they are in BIG trouble and had changed DRASTICALLY their doctrine.TL;DR= if they wanted more survival rates, with 100-120 km/h they could outrun ANY BETA that could pursue them(Destroyers could reach 170, but not for too long). only Lasers could do any harm.
>>22896093> This arc about the fall of the Capital put the Japanese Imperial Guard in such a bad light>25 years doing almost nothing>had a rude reality checkSounds like the URSS in 1941 :VVV>One TSF with esper pilots easily destroyed 1500 different BETA strains in one battle. If you can increase the characteristics of the machine by "enhancing" the pilot, then why not?>CIA or anyone else goes GLOWHAXXOR LEET in to your network/TSF/pilot systems>your silver rats goes berzerk, razing everything on their pathMaybe the Siliconians got HAXXED and BETA got corrupted and runaway...>>22896138>As far as I remember, space fleets in ML are based on spaceplanes >and cope well with the role of Earth-Orbit delivery.(You) can´t be serious...
>>22897024>Realistically the TSFs are all carrying half their weight in ammo so the F4's armor alone wouldn't make that much difference.so, the gap between generations are closer than depicted... interesting>Pilots are frequently depicted dragging down their comrades the second a tank class climbs on one by panicking, refusing to bail out, and shooting their allies in desperation while their allies stop fighting to try and peel of the tank class with a knife.Looks like there is a lack of training in those situations...>In the games, the right thing to do is just shoot anyone grappled with 36mm, and the F4 tends to suffer fewer casualties when that happens, as well as surviving lasers while a flat-footed shiranui evaporates.now i want to play it...
What's the current state of East Germany's government by 2001?
>>22898502Irrelevant thing to say.
>>22898502I was told it was better under the nazis and the nazis would've handled the beta threat better
>>22898513Stop ban evading.
>>22896041what about that is irrelevant? moron
can anyone recommend /comfy/ anime or vn's like muv luv extra? i know MLE is semi-parody and what not but its really comfy and i love that shit
>>22898513I was hoping for a response that would give me an excuse for painting a typhoon in balalaika colors>>22898538most likely>>22898764Majikoi for sure. Baldr sky if you want something else where the comfy SoL is contrasted with military-esque stuff. I also always felt that the first To-Love Ru season had the same spirit as Extra to some extent as well.
Cybrid bros... I understand now.
>>22898502like all eurasian nations. Virtually non-existent.Or in better words, just an excuse to fill a seat in the UN HQ.>>22898538>the White Gang goes FULL WÜNDERWAFFE>creates UFOs and weapons like candy>humanity recovers eurasia , next is the Moon, and then, the galaxy, making the Lebensraum of Uncle Adolf like a picnicI dont see anything wrong with it, kiddo.
>>22875209So, I've been away for like.. 6months+? Anything new?>kim-no mecha no alien no care
>>22899312Lots of promises, anon.but few delivers from kouki and company.watch the last stream if you speak nip jibberish
>>22896093>Just watch the episode of TE about Kamchatka tanks Pic Related.I would watch BETA trying to do the same on this.
>>22898538you were told right
Well, spambot, you gonna spam?
>>22900061He got scared and worked at McDonald's for half an hour.
