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So who won in the end, Wily or Light?
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Wawey. His final creation is now a hero while the one made by his rival will be touted as the tyrant
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>Light destroyed his best friends career and got him kicked out of academia because he was scared his work in progress that would have been ironed out would have hurt the poor little toasters.

I'm not saying Light's a piece of shit. I am saying the writers are very bad at their jobs though.
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>>22881073
Funny how before 11 came out the Archie comics made it so the reason Wily got banned from robotics was because of that walker he made that uses chemical weapons.
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>>22880842
Whoever won, everyone else lost.
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>>22880842
part 3 soon
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>>22881073
>caring about things is bad

You have to be over 18 to post here.
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Wily was the bad guy, but Light's actions actually ended up causing more harm.
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The version of Light that decided to focus on cyberspace instead of robotics
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>>22881234
I don't know how you got that takeaway from what I said but you're a special kind of retarded.
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>>22881072
If we just go by ZX it seems like neither one of them is remembered as much as you might think, especially with X. I can see Zero being forgotten because a lot of his actions might have been hidden from public view, but X was the poster boy leader/savior for the Maverick Hunters and then basically all of humanity a good chunk of time.
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>>22881369
Et tu, retard-kun?

>poor little toasters
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>>22881388
>Et tu
Not how you use that.
>>poor little toasters
Yes. The unthinking, unfeeling machines that he placed above loyalty to his friend. And had Wiley not been ousted his gears would have been able to be developed to a point where the "danger" wouldn't be an issue.
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>>22881389
lol you barely speak coherent English, don't pretend you know Latin.
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>>22880842
The Mavericks
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>>22881546
No they all died too.
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It's said right away, that Zero was built to be the antithesis to X - implying that Wily knew what was going on with Light's future creation. He expressly named the robot Zero because while X stands for any possible variable in an equation, 0 is the equation killer that reduces any value to nothing.

In the end, Wily got the last laugh because Zero ended up surpassing X in every possible way, even in terms of 'free will.' X was essentially brainwashed by Dr. Light's morality tests, making him obsessed with justice to the point that he could never truly fight for himself—only for humans and other Reploids. He was trapped by his own robot moral code and could never be truly free. Zero, on the other hand, was free to be whatever he wanted, whether a Maverick or a hero and he chose to be the latter.
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>>22881699
>0 is the equation killer that reduces any value to nothing.

God that is the exact kind of retarded chuuni bullshit I expect out of Japan
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>>22880842
Wily literally cannot die. Megaman could blow his fucking head off on screen and he'd still show up next game like "Well, i won't bore you with the details of my miraculous escape, but FUCK YOU MEGAMAN!!!"
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Who's remembers that Eddie LeBron film? One thing I remember from it is that Dr. Light programming his robots to feel hunger even if they don't need to eat.
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>>22881907
I remember watching it when it first got released. It was definitely one of the most valiant fan made efforts ever. I actually liked his take on Wiley as a guy that fell off the beaten path more than just evil.
It’s not a masterpiece, but it’s competent and impressive for a guy with no budget.
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>>22881699
Cool, X came to the same conclusion did hundreds of years before Zero does
If we're going by your logic, Zero's reluctance to fully accept being a hero got way more people killed compared to X
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>>22881073
I assume the writers meant for Light to be pure in his intentions and having him be the one to block Wily's project would make the conflict more personal, but all it does is make it look like Light was just using "ethics" as an paper-thin excuse to get all the research grant money for himself. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with academia knows that is what we call a dick move.

They should've just had Light actually supporting Wily the whole time, and then Wily just projects the insecurity of his failure onto his friend who was succeeding over him.
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>>22880842
These are literally Juzo Kabuto and Dr. Hell btw
>best friend scientists
>each creates a robot
>one to protect humanity, the other to conquer the world
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>>22881896
This.
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Needs moar Quake Woman.
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>>22881699
I think I honestly hate Zero as a character. Not only did he start to really overshadow X in that line of games but everything about him just reads like an edgy fanfic insert the more you go on.

>>22882004
The whole "I've never tried to be a hero" bullshit is something that only sounds cool to a 14 year old. It's purely retarded.
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>>22882311
Nah it's just purely cool
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>>22880842
Dr. Light, he made X a self realizing robot that in the end X determined that he wants to do good.

Dr. Wily made Zero just an unga-bunga monkey that Sigma has to subdue and reprogram

X might be called naive by other reploids even upto 400 years since his awakening, but his naiveite and morals and his interaction with Zero influenced Zero into becoming a genuinely good guy that in MMZ he became true hero in X's stead
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>>22882354
>that Sigma has to subdue and reprogram
tell me you don't know the events without saying it
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>>22882357
did you forget that Sigma was a former UH-rank maverick hunter, before the wily virus stored in Zero's head infected him?
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>>22882386
I miss when this was just about jump and shoot man. This is Sonic levels of retarded
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>>22882399
blame Inafune, its obvious that he wanted his red guy to be the main center of attention, so he kept storyfagging Zero to be the cool guy with a backstory, he wasnt able to replace Rockman with Blues, but he was successful in replacing X with Zero
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>>22882399
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>>22882438
Don't you have to guy buy a new trench coat for the keyblade convention?
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>>22882386
I mean the reprogram part, the only thing that can change Zero is the wily virus which later evolves into the sigma virus
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>>22882428
>replace Rockman with Blues
things that never happened, Blues was the Saburo (Hakaider) to Rock's Jin (Kikaider), I hate inafune like most people but don't make shit up

Zero replacing X was what Inafune wanted from the start though so you're right
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>>22882311
I mean, even classic Megaman is already slightly edgier Astroboy and all its sequels go full-in on the edgelord shit. You're not wrong, it's just...it's fundamental to what the series is so I don't see the point in complaining too hard about it. Gotta embrace the chuuni shit in all its glory.
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>>22884082
I'd say Astroboy is edgier than Megaman
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>>22882354
People tend to forget that the entire reason Zero had any notion of good instilled upon him was because he had X around to act as his moral compass. If he hadn't met X he would've eventually gone full Omega.
In the end, Wily kind of won given what happened in MMZ, but I'd say both Light and Wily's creations long surpassed their creator's original intentions, ironically, by relying on one another and working together to achieve something greater.
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>>22881699
Close enough. It's more about willpower and how "human" they are. X is a robot with full human like faculties, so much so that he actually retreats from fighting the moment he realized he no longer felt remorse for murdering other reploids and gave up to rest.

Zero on the other hand is a living weapon that embodies the will of whoever is ordering him about. In the X series, this causes him problems because he's working for a authority that labels anything it sees as a threat as diseased and malfunctioning. It's only when he works for a innocent girl and inherits X's will to preserve both humans and reploids that he actually does make a real difference in Z4.

For this to work, you do have to disregard the games post X4 or at most after X6 since Zero is a nothing character after X6.
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>>22884155
Zero turned good because the virus entered his body over the course of the battle with Sigma and essentially made him lucid while making Sigma lose his inhibitions.
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>>22880842
Water won.
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>>22880842
Both but not in the ways they thought they would.
Light's dream became a thing, but because of Wily's final and most greatest creation.
It was not X who brought peace between machines and humans. It was Zero. A bot whom Wily created to originally ruin the world with the Maverick Virus.
Wily, as MM11 showed before he turned into the asshat we all knew, wanted robots to be heroes. Wily however didn't know that his creation would bring out the future Light wanted.
The Maverick Virus was implanted into Zero because originally Zero was like a mindless beast. The virus however, instead of turning him crazier, mellowed him out in a - + - way which let him to later develop over time when the virus jumped to Sigma.
In a way Wily won because his dream of bots being heroes came to be with Zero in the latter's own spin-off series. If it were the old Wily, then he'd be damn proud of Zero.
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>>22883446
reminder that in X5 bad ending, someone deleted X's data about Zero and the crew can't reprogram him to give him data about Zero

its pretty much implied that reploids can be reprogrammed. Zero included. it can be inferred that once Sigma subdued Zero, he was brought back to be reprogrammed to be a good reploid
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>>22884082
>I mean, even classic Megaman is already slightly edgier Astroboy

Lol. just lol.
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>>22884242
It's actually in the canon that the reason Zero became good despite being created as the most evil robot is that the Wily virus which turns a robot into an evil one cancelled original Zero programming instead of strengthening it which made Zero normal
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still actually wondering if X and the crew encountered the Stardroids, since by X time, they were space-faring reploids already
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>>22884191
The "evil" Wily would still be proud because Zero surpassed Thomas' magnum opus. For all we know, X likely went down in history as a coward if Ciel didn't tell the surviving Neo Arcadians about the two Copies.
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>>22884171
>Zero on the other hand is a living weapon that embodies the will of whoever is ordering him about. In the X series, this causes him problems because he's working for a authority that labels anything it sees as a threat as diseased and malfunctioning. It's only when he works for a innocent girl and inherits X's will to preserve both humans and reploids that he actually does make a real difference in Z4.
That's just Getter Robo crossed with Hakaider
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>>22881392
nta stop try hard, esl
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>>22885172
Learn to conjugate.
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>>22880842
Who ever mass produces robo lolis first
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>>22885244
Zero has two green tits and a feminine ponytail
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>>22885172
You didn't have to sign our post, we could all tell already.
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>>22880842
Nobody won. They both contributed to the robot apocalypse that almost wiped out humanity.
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>>22880842
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>>22891864
sex with the girls on left
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>>22891870
anon…
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>>22891870
The green one is a boy.
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Wily.
Santa asshole is a prick. Capcom himself canonically says he's a douchie
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>>22881072
if not for Light's creation Zero would've died like Sigma
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Cossack
He's the only one we can prove has had sex
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man Bass just stopped mattering
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Just finished SF3. Man this is easily the best from start to finish.
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>>22882311
Zero in the Rockman Zero series seems heavily inspired by the Hakaider movie, which is edgy but not fanfic. I think its the good kind of edge, it doesnt seem too spiteful or indulgent.
>>22884082
This anon >>22884086 is right. The series only warps into something darker with the progression of Classic > X > Zero. Its feels like a byproduct of the series Heroes being forced to fight newer and endlessly repeating conflicts that unintentionally warps the series worldview into something jaded.
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>>22898941
Best SF game in terms of gameplay, but I really have a softspot for the story of 1.
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Dr Light needs our help and the world needs his genius
Wily can suck a penis
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>>22898941
I'm been replaying it for the first time since it released, and yeah, it's pretty fun. Which version did you play, and what kind of build did you go for? I went with Red Joker and have been running a Freeze Break folder with Virgo Noise; the damage is quite impressive, though it does feel weird to run a folder that cares so little about counter hits.
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robots. sexy.
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