Despite the dodgy animation, can we all agree that this is the greatest slasher mecha based series where Mike Myers happens to be a 60ft Gundam?
The action is pretty nice. They nailed just how advanced the Gundam is compared to everything else Zeon has, it runs circles around everything and even the GMs are no slouch.
>>22901602One thing I don't get: The Beam Spray gun is supposed to be instant death, right? Like one hit should basically kill anything in the One Year War if you can land a direct hit. So why does it basically look like a peashooter? It just fires this little spurt of energy that can't seem to hit anything.
Ya, the detail oh how hard it was to disable the GM with normal rounds was a nice touch.
>>22901609https://youtu.be/sUg3r9-sMYg?si=PmDR4-VUExy0J_m-
>>22901612Awesome that's more like it
>>22901602i hate how its pro feds and villainized zeon.
>>22901602Too bad the characters and the story is shit
>>22901602>slasher mechaIs that a thing?
>>22901609Yep, in the novelization amuro even stronger than the Gundam's beam rifle at close ranges, and only loses power over long distances. nuGundam trannies keep nerfing the feddie suits even though they were fighting 1v3. Pretty soon the GM will actually be worse than the zaku and the Gundam will be a shitter
>>22901950It's a made up term but why not? I'd like to know if there's other examples of it.The fact that the feddies are bathed in red light and attack under night pushes it towards horrorslop.
>>22901604It's not even fucking consistent though. This is just a pretty ground Gundam. It by all means shouldn't be that fast or powerful and just dilutes the setting.
>>22901602>Slash flickI think you mean SlashER flick. It wasn’t porn. >can we all agreeThis is 4chan. Of course not. >Mike MyersYou mean Michael Myers. Although a giant Mike Myers would be surreal…
>>22902055>horrorslopThere you go again, stop making terms up, your forced memes aren't funny anymore.
>>22902094Okay I'll use my words then. The idea of some bloodthirsty fag in a robot going around and cutting everyone down sounds pretty cool.
>>22902064>It by all means shouldn't be that fast or powerfulThere's nothing wrong with the Gundam EX leaping around, it's about on par with the RX-78-2 in other depictions like webm related.Ground Gundams were made out of a shitheap of random spare parts and not even all of them were good spare parts, that's why it was given the RX-79 model code, it had to use limiters so the parts would work better together, and doesn't perform well like the RX-78. If they had all proper parts for the RX-78 they could just assemble more of those instead of having to make do with the RX-79. Without info it's hard to say, but since it has the RX-78 model code instead of RX-79, I think of it as being like the Pixie Gundam. It's a ground-optimized RX-78, but still has a beam rifle unlike the Pixie.
>>22901950Not really, but that description does kinda fit this very... particular type of story that recurs mainly within Gundam (since there's such a constituency for Zeon-wank).Figure that mecha as a genre is basically a superhero story, only instead of the hero putting on a mask or magical item or incantation that turns him into a superhuman figure, he's climbing into a robot. When he's out of it he's a normal, fallible guy, when he's in he's basically a nigh-unstoppable cryptid. But it seems to be surprisingly rare among the various mecha franchises to portray the viewpoint of the monster-of-the-week mooks for whom the hero is basically akin to a horror movie killer and they have to avoid constantly or get horrifically murdered. Often it's just a one-off gag akin to the Batman poker episode. Or like, that one part of Garo: Makai Tales with a bunch of Horrors in a bar comedically talking about how their friends have been getting offed - right before the human meal they have locked up says 'the thing', turns into a Makai Knight and starts slicing through them all.
>>22902208The funny part is how GM[G]'s are supposed to have 80% of the same parts, the implication intended to be that Gundam[G]'s are mostly GMs with a few leftover Gundam parts installed... except the only visual differences are the heads, multi-launchers, and the cargo rack on back.Clearly it's not the rack or launcher that none of the other Gundams have, nor the armor (both are lunar titanium), so it may well be just the heads and some amount of internals. So when Karen got hers turned into GM head she's like 95% GM[G] now.Either that or all the GM[G]s are secretly Gundams.
>DUDE WHAT IF THE PEOPLE FEAR THE ROBOT LIKE A HORROR MOVIE EVER THOUGHT OF THAT? FOKKEN CRAZY INNITyou guys should apply for netflix, they love retards like you there
>>22901602bad shop but what if it had this gimmickalso the original art was from https://x.com/240eukrante/status/1848550998056571291
>>22902231trying to make it seem less human with tiny quadeyes?
>>22901602Maybe on account of how little competition there is, but I don't think it did that very well outside of the first night ambush.
>>22902219Ground GMs have completely different reactors from the Gundam and Ground Gundams. The Ground Gundams are 90% Gundam, and 100% of the performance because they have a simplified structure with fewer gimmicks, like the core fighter, which makes them more efficient. The Ground GMs are 80% of 90%
>>22902310I'm really calling bullshit on Ground Gundam's being 90% Gundams. It has to be more like Ground Gundam's are 90% GM with 10% Gundam instead
>>22902122honestly idk why mecha doesn't really try that more often, it'd actually be kino.
>>22902223Why are you so opposed to the idea? You sound scared.
>>22902363The Ground Gundams were all completed and running around asia before the RX-78-2 was even done
>>22902366Isn't AI robot thing gone haywire and murdering people kind of already it's own (small) genre
>>22902081>Giant Mike MyersMobile Suit 0069: Shagdust Memory...
>>22902381Sauce? I'm legitimately curious
>>22902433http://www.gundam-hardgraph.net/data/description04.html> The Earth Federation Forces' Far East Regional Army, which was to face the Principality of Zeon's Earth Conquest Forces' Central Asia Regional Army on the front lines, also established a mobile suit operation unit in July of Universal Century 0079. This was the 1st Mechanized Mixed Battalion, commonly known as the Kojima Battalion, led by Lieutenant Colonel Kojima.> The 1st Mechanized Mixed Battalion was composed of the Headquarters Management Company, the 1st MS Company, the 2nd MS Company, and the Anti-MS Infantry Company. In addition, each MS Company had four MS platoons. This was composed of three ground combat type mobile suits and one mobile suit combat support vehicle, the M353A4 Blood Hound.The Kojima battalion was formed with ground combat MS in July, the same month the RX-78-1 was rolled out.
>>22902433HG UC RX79[G] instructions lore apparently.Says they were rolled out in July because the feds got tired of waiting for RX78's project data so they made a stripped down ground combat version with no core block or space features. Probably no learning computer either.
>>22902231This would have been really cool to see, a faceplate covering its face and the inner parts gets revealed after taking damage.
>>22901602I'm half way through this and it's pretty awesome.
>>22902433>>22902467>>22902468My understanding is that lore-wise, Amuro fighting the Zakus at Side 7 in September 18th 0079 is still supposed to be UC history's first record of MS-on-MS combat (barring things like Origin timeline which had its first MS-on-MS battle in 0078 on the moon)https://archive.li/8ftTDJuly 0079 is when the Ground Gundams and GMs began deployment, as in rollout from the factory and being delivered to units. For the next couple of weeks, they're training on the MS and getting used to them. For reference, 08th MS Team episode 1 takes place on the same day as MSG episode 12, which is October 6th (broadcast of Gihren's speech at Garma's memorial service). That said, Kojima batallation already received its Ground Gundams and GMs a while ago and had already experienced combat but not known exactly when it began, there's already some wrecked Ground Gundam scraps lying around by the time Shiro arrives.Or well, it's all a big pile of schlock that Banrise barely keeps consistent, like ten pounds of retcons in a 5 pound bag of shit.
>>22902480could be neat if it was styled like a piece of applique armor, would fit the aesthetic they were trying to go for.
>>22902493Even in First people act more settled in and like the war has been a longer grind than its 9 months would imply. I agree with you that one month window 08th MS leaves is dumb as shit, but it's not too inconsistent with the rest of the One Year Wars other compressed dumb shit.
>>22901639>not one single mention of Operation British>anti Zeon
>>22901950What other shows does that even describe? 4th only one I can think of is maybe Zeorymer
>>22902021I've noticed this being a thing as time went on. A GM was initially seen as a gamechanger because now not only can the Federation fight Zeon on equal terms in space fleet to space fleet combat, it has an edge over the vast majority of Zeon MS in that it can utilize beam weaponry. Nowadays it's depicted as being barely better than a Zaku I and are apparently made from the scrap of destroyed colonies to explain why they get depicted getting shit on so often.
>>22902122that's pretty much Zeorymer in a nutshell (minus icicle rape and stuff)
>>22902369NTA but it's an idea that's worth 4 minutes of content. This "show" pretty much fulfilled its telos of existence from the first fight scene, the plot and characters they tried to build around it to stretch it out into a full length movie were cliched, tedious nothings.>>22902621>>22902629Oh fuck I forgot Zeorymer. Yeah that's the only one I can think of that (successfully) builds an actual plot out of "what if the big robot was scurry from the baddies perspective", mostly because it actually uses that as a twist and has several things going on besides that.Think the manga is unironically a better told story than the ova by a longshot though, even with the icicle rape.
>>22901950Try reading "Mobile Suit Gundam: The battle tales of Flanagan Boone".
>>22902688>an idea that's worth 4 minutes of content.15 years ago, it was done in 40 seconds.https://youtu.be/sUg3r9-sMYg?t=230
>>22902208Where is this from?
>>22902406Isn't Blue Destiny powered by dead newtypes?
>kills the kid at the endWhoa. Super edgy. How Netflix of them.
>>22903052>kills the kid at the endI saw it coming; when people think a genre is inherently silly, they will try to make it "adult" (as edgy and gritty as possible). Storytelling decisions motivated by this will often feel mean-spirited because it is done out of contempt.
>>22903052Don't think he's dead, the Gouf's sword went just at the top of cockpit.I reckon if there's another season it will follow the kid trying to hunt down the last red wolf thinking she tricked him with her humanity bs talk, meanwhile her son heads to earth to find his mama
>>22901602>protag later participates in Operation Stardust>Titans formed to hunt down zeek terrorists like her>Titans find her son and turn him into cyber-newtype>she is hunted down by her own son
>>22903162The Netflix Gundam and GM seem to share same if not similar chest structure, and unlike the standard RX-78 and GM which had cockpit just above the waist, the GM's cockpit was pretty high, slightly higher than the chest vents. It's not definite proof that the Gundam EX also had its cockpit there since I don't think there was ever an open cockpit scene for the Gundam, but it seems pretty likely.
>>22903052>blindsided while having moment of understanding on the battlefieldisn't that more or less how amuro dies in the old novel too?
>>22903192
>>22903164>mother and son finally face off in their mobile suits>they have the same moment like with the Gundam pilot in the finale>he says MOTHER????>she realizes it's her son>he gets stabbed by a ZakuKINO
>>22903052Gundam was never edgy before netflix
>>22903164The MC having a Zeek nigga moment and joining the fucking Africa remnants and potentially participating in Operation Stardust and/or Torrington is more in line with the franchise than a lot of spinoffs
>>22902208But that's gay
>>22903035An animated cutscene from PS2 Giren's Ambition. Zeon side reporting on the progress of Operation V.
>>22903188It is hard to tell if the Netflix GM is a visual interpretation of the regular RGM-79. The RX-78[G]E is a separate entity from all the RX-78s we know so far. Maybe if Amuro's RX-78 were to appear in Netflix verse, would it share any parts?Someone also speculated that Ez-8's faceplate was salvaged from parts of the Gundam EX.
>>22903576The show definitely is channeling suits and aesthetics from 08th MS, but I dunno that it's similar enough.
>>22903767Though, if we chalk most differences up to 'art style' and that if they showed up in another entry they'd look like the traditional anime ones, then maybe.
>>22903771Perhaps not surprising but they're closer to the also-greebled Thunderbolt designs.
>>22903775But outside of thrusters, there's barely any greeble on the Thunderbolt stuff. There's so many random ass panel lines and raised surfaces on the RFV designs.
>>22903775You don't know what "greeble" means.
>>22903775Those jackal ears on the Requiem Zaku look so awful and out of place.
>>22902493Part of the issue is that the OYW is pretty much the 6 years of WW2 crammed into a single year and they keep adding more WW2 in to it.
>design spec and mechanical history lost to time Real fucking convenient
>>22903820>GP02 is the first and last Gundam that can hover like a Dom
>>22903834What about murdock?
>>22903834Everything in Zeta can do it
>>22902212>But it seems to be surprisingly rare among the various mecha franchises to portray the viewpoint of the monster-of-the-week mooks for whom the hero is basically akin to a horror movie killer and they have to avoid constantly or get horrifically murdered.That has been going on in Gundam since early MSG. https://youtu.be/emtWbDX0KN0?t=38 Gundam from the Zeon perspective was essentially a monster hunt, I don't think slasher fits the situation for mecha. All you need to to is cut the White Base pov and you get what your looking for to some degree.
>>22904053If you'll notice, at the top I specifically cited Gundam as an outlier in this niche *for* having stories like this. And how it's usually a brief gag if it shows up at all elsewhere.That said, it's one thing for story from the hero's perspective to show that his enemies fear him. It's another for the mooks of the piece to be running around from a mostly faceless, anonymous killing machine in the same way as teens from Jason or Michael or Ghostface.That is, if I'm having to throw out 3/4 of the show to get a flicker of a certain kind of story, vs that being the focus of a whole story. That's amazingly uncommon anywhere BUT Gundam, despite how many motw mecha shows we have.
>>22904128i don't think other franchises do the same degree of badguy-mc stories as often as gundam does. like a lot show us events on both sides, but the mc is the relative good guy. itd be like a macross that's almost entirely from a zentradi perspective and the humans are thinly depicted things they encounter and wonder about. or a star trek that was pointedly just about people not in the federation and their grubby little lives far from utopia, except occasionally this super-ship comes by and upends things, then leaves them to deal with the aftermath.
>>22901602They should have given a GM Sniper Custom to the newtype kid.There are way too many gundams in OYW already.
>>22902219GM = Titanium AlloyGundam = Gundarium
>>22904165That is the hilarity - most GMs are titanium, but the Ground GMs are the same material as the Gundams. So it's less that the Gundams are GMs as it is that the GMs are basically Gundams.
>>22904161Yeah, it would have been cool if it was a custom grunt suit taking the zeeks apart. They could have even slapped a v-fin on it and given it a white paint job to capitalize on Amuro's myth, but I guess that would have been too subtle (never mind how much the EX's design strays from all other RX-78s).
>>22901639>villainized zeonWhere?
>>22903775Man the Thunderbolt Zakus just have no neck.
>>22903815Suggestion to BandaiThe TWO year war and kick the can of 'you're putting too much shit in' down the line another three decades.Wait, that's just SEED again... Shit.
>>22904195>They could have even slapped a v-fin on it and given it a white paint job to capitalize on Amuro's myththen what the fuck is the difference between a white super custom V fin suit and the Gundam EX then? just a name?
>>22904128>If you'll notice, at the top I specifically cited Gundam as an outlier in this niche *for* having stories like this. And how it's usually a brief gag if it shows up at all elsewhere.Scenes like what was posted aren't that niche. Soukou no Strain, FMP, Argevollen, Kyoukai Senki and even A.Z have scenes like that happening. They just don't have dedicated ova from one perspective. Its about as amazingly uncommon as prototype robots or rivals in mecha.>That said, it's one thing for story from the hero's perspective to show that his enemies fear him. It's another for the mooks of the piece to be running around from a mostly faceless, anonymous killing machine in the same way as teens from Jason or Michael or Ghostface.Mooks are often trained pilots often zealously chasing the Gundam, its not the same as teens running from Jason. The teenager running away is often the pilot of the Gundam.
I watched the first episode, and when Gundam appeared it looked like the Blue Sky monster.
>>22904566I think you're still not quite understanding what I was saying.The question was 'is slasher mecha a thing', and I said no but there are niche stories like this where the descriptor kind of fits perhaps. Where majority of the entry, start to finish, is with the traditional villains of the piece as the protagonists and what's usually the hero mech is terrifying monster akin to a cryptid, where details of its pilots motivations or such are (at least initially) a black box. And further, that Gundam is perhaps a natural ground for this in that it's somewhat unique in how it constantly flogs its OG villain faction (Zeon) so hard in side works, even giving them their own standalone perspective OVAs, manga, etc.*That is a separate and specific story type* from works that merely depict the lives and thoughts of *both* sides and present both as sympathetic in some way, or that show the villains being shocked at the hero's power. The former is what I was calling niche, and thus where I cited "Almost Got 'Im" from BtAS and "Villains" from Makai Retsuden as examples of it showing up elsewhere only as a brief gag in the overall series.
>>22903192In the first novel version of the Jim, Amuro said to me, "The Jim has a mono-eye, so the camera doesn't blur and it's easier to fight.
>>22904418Necks are just for show.
>>22901602>Mike Myers happens to be a 60ft Gundam?One of the Drawfriends needs to redraw this scene but with the Zaku's incapable of killing the Gundam.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvTb1B253fQ
>>22902208All that stuff about the Ground Gundams coming from spare parts isn't in the anime itself. It makes about as much sense as Barzams being mass-produced Gundam Mk-IIs. And this thing >>22902493 looks like a generic 90s Okawara Gundam that has more to do with the Leopard than the original RX-78 or even the 90s renditions of it.
Nah, that episode of Megas where Megas gets all those stealth kills fighting the Glorft at their own base was better.
... Isn't that literally the first Terminator movie?
>>22901602>my name?>Im Jason McGundamIt was a good watch, didnt like the ending because it was too soft, killing Jason didnt achieved anything, Iria staying in Africa didnt solve anything at all and you dont see what happened to anyone else once there back in Space.8/10, mostly because it was Gouf porn with some side story
>>22905182nice reeboks
>>22905200McFly's sneakers were the inspiration
Is it better with Japanese audio?
>>22905206Its less cheesy, to put it in a way, shame mouths dont match most of the time
>>22905204i cant see it, looks like a mix of elementsneat outfit overall though imo, one of the better designs in the thing>>22905212tbf the lip sync isn't precise in english either
>>22905218oops, meant i CAN see it
>>22905182>Jason MyersHeh, cheeky
>>22905182>mostly because it was Gouf porn with some side storyIt was nice seeing Gouf's kick some serious ass.
>>22905261Still waiting for a HG Gouf RfV edition announced soon
>>22905261Very little Heat Wire action though, I think that's its coolest gimmick.
>>22905288I want that and an RfV GM, I love th3 design they went with for both of them.>>22905289Yeah aside from grabbing the cannon from that one GM it's not used.
>>22905303Loved the faux mono eye here, they really packed more heat than original's GM cannon fodder twigs, too bad we didnt get any RX-77 Guncannon, the GunTanks didnt even had a real head
>>22905328That's because they seemed to be using the Assault Guntank from IGLOO.
>>22901602Honestly the only sensible character in the show. If they just laid low and hid they could have sat out the war.
>>22905399Yeah, but sadly, Zeon is not historically known for sane commanders being listened to much.
>>22905399>If they just laid low and hid they could have sat out the war.Potentially, but I really don't know if I buy that the Gundam and the GM would have never attacked the recycling base if they hadn't been kitbashing a couple Zakus together. It's still a military outpost so the Federation would consider a valid target, and it seems like the Gundam's pilot was very vengeful (some might say he was a Requiem for Vengeance) towards Zeon. But we also don't know for sure if the Federation's plan was to bulldoze every Zeek base in their path or not, so there's a chance that if the mechanic hadn't listened to Captain Solari that they might have been ignored. As an aside, the Major says after the battle that civilians died during the attack, but I'm trying to figure out when exactly. As far as I could tell neither Fed mobile suit managed to hit that big building at the back of the base. So were all the mechanics and recycling personnel just contractors and not a part of the Zeon military proper? The whole conclusion to that episode felt rushed.
>>22905288Fuck you give me a HG Zakutank first.>>22905356>>22905328Yeah, they were probably lifted straight from IGLOO 2. Mass-Production types would have made more sense, but I guess they used all their budget taping logs to the zakus.
>>22905104>There is literally a scene were they try to use the machine gun, then Bazooka and they both fail.Nope, that's it, that Gundam is now Mike Myers Gundam.
>>22905436They would have attacked, but we've seen through out the show that the feddies were taking surrenders of Zeon troops and Universal doctors. They would have attacked and demanded the surrender of the outpost. In any military commanders eyes, if you are capable of taking a position without a loss and you have the capabilities to take PoW then why wouldn't you ? By creating weapons of war like that they are directly in the firing line and will be treated much more harshly
>>22904966>But it seems to be surprisingly rare among the various mecha franchises to portray the viewpoint of the monster-of-the-week mooks for whom the hero is basically akin to a horror movie killer and they have to avoid constantly or get horrifically murdered.>Often it's just a one-off gag akin to the Batman poker episode. Or like, that one part of Garo: Makai Tales with a bunch of Horrors in a bar comedically talking about how their friends have been getting offed - right before the human meal they have locked up says 'the thing', turns into a Makai Knight and starts slicing through them all.>That is, if I'm having to throw out 3/4 of the show to get a flicker of a certain kind of story, vs that being the focus of a whole story. That's amazingly uncommon anywhere BUT Gundam, despite how many motw mecha shows we have.You were pushing that shows having pilots treat the local prototype/ancient mech as something terrifying were rare. >*That is a separate and specific story type* from works that merely depict the lives and thoughts of *both* sides and present both as sympathetic in some way, or that show the villains being shocked at the hero's power. The former is what I was calling niche, and thus where I cited "Almost Got 'Im" from BtAS and "Villains" from Makai Retsuden as examples of it showing up elsewhere only as a brief gag in the overall series.And I was saying it was always a fundamental part of the story, what you're looking for isn't a new story, its simply cutting information to skew perspective. Beyond that Full Metal Panic had a three episode arc dedicated to Gauron hunting down Souske and the local Mithril group. The Mithril group dies off while being hunted by Gauron and any resistance they put up is futile. At three episodes it gets close in length to a movie, is relatively self contained and Guaron has little development beyond being insane.
>>22905356and kinda dumb usage too.sure fun artillery fire, but you got those guns on you, no one fired when artillery core was attackedyou can argue that they were literally artillery who can't for love of god fire autocannons but not even panic fire?
Not as good as IGLOO but I expected way worse. I would watch another series like it if they do one.I wish it hand been the Local Type rather than adding yet another one to the pile of RX-78 variants but otherwise it was very okay.
>>22902621i would say the first season of amaim counts.
>>22908117>prettycure tranny shit
>>22908431We don't post our searches here.
>>22902406
Slasher mecha? Sure. Legit Gundam adaptation. Nah.The Gundam Wing English dub is a more valid adaptation than this.
>>22901639You didn't watch it I take it.
>>22901602I just finished episode 2 and I honesly how fucking scary this weird bastardised Ground Gundam is. Even the 2 Goufs who heroically tried to stall him from destroying the convoy got fucking wrecked.
