Which side are you on?>DYRL is a perfectly fine standalone film>DYRL makes no sense without watching the TV series first. Too much of the context is lost
>>22913038As a film it works fine by itself but if you're looking as a replacement or a way to speed run the series you're missing a lot and are a faggot.
>muh sidesFuck off zoomer.
>>22913038DYRL should be watched instead of the series, as it cuts out far more of the bad parts of the series than the good parts, and every single change it makes is for the better
It was easier to force my friends to watch a 2 hour movie versus 36 (good) episodes.
DYRL to me is the definitive version of events, it has far more soul to it in the sense that the onset of the Zentradi attack on Earth, where only apparently 50k humans survived. The animation is a total refinement of the original, which is good all the same, but the pacing just always felt more real to me above else. The way Hikaru x Minmay's relationship is handled is very good and you end up seeing some clarity to Misa as well. Roy's story is more acceptable in the film vs the latter, but that's just me. A lot of things go cut or cancelled for it, especially Maximillian x Millia's true end, but the film is gnarly and I like it more than the TV series anyday. The bonus part they did of Minmay performing for the Megaroad launch is haunting to me and I love the implications. DESU its like the Gundam compilation films; the TV series is a great watch but the summary with better animation seems to be approachable for folks wanting to get into things. I think I could understand DYRL without ever seeing the TV show.
>>22913148>soulGo back.
>>22913157I've been a Macross fag for years but when I saw DYRL I guess I became even more retarded
>>22913120You shouldn't force your friends to watch anything.
>>22913168I also forced them to watch Gunbuster and Keijo!!!!!!!!. But that was years ago.
>>22913040This is correct. The movie is good on its own but lacking things like fishing in space or the baby toss makes it far less entertaining.
>>22913038It's an okay stand alone film, but like >>22913040 it's not a good way to get an understanding of the series as a whole. There is too much lore and backstory cut out that get further explored in subsequent works.
>>22913038It would be hard to recommend the movie to others without the context of the TV show because of Roy's characterization and fate.
>>22913038It removes all soul and charm of the series
DYRL is one of, if not the best piece of Japanese animated media ever made.I'd go so far as to say that it's a great film in its own right even when compared to more "legitimate" western live actions films.
the series and the film are both good in their own rights, but i think its definitely better to watch the TV series before the film.
>>22913038>DYRL is a perfectly fine standalone filmHonestly, Macross at its core is a love triangle in space and DYRL tells it brilliantly. The main characters are way more visceral and real than in the series. The only small complaint I have is there isn't a good explanation as to why Misa knows so much about protoculture during her exposition in the sunken city. Other than that the movie is incredible.
>MacrossI'm in it for the vision of the future.
>>22913038The main issue with DYRL is that it skips the whole start of the conflict with the attack on Earth and the Macross launching, since it starts when they already on Earth. If you can get over that, and accept everything in the setting without real explanation/exposition (like the Valkyries themselves) then everything flows fine from that point on. But the issue is that it's still missing all that. Clearly expecting viewers to already "know" Macross when they go watch it.
>>22913529>The main issue with DYRL is that it skips the whole start of the conflict with the attack on Earth and the Macross launchingA cut scene that Anno and his team worked on themselves for 5 months. You get to see clips of it in the start of the Daicon 4 intro. Their visual of the Rain of Death would have been the best animated scenes of destruction ever. Big West thought it too dark.
>>22913038I'm on the hidden third side that enters half way through the conflict that realizes: >You need to watch Macross 7 in order to understand DYRL (it's an in universe movie)
Is DYRL worth watching if I just watched and enjoyed the show
>>22913756DYRL is worth watching standalone but if you just have watched the TV show, then DYRL is even better and you get even more enjoyment out of it, knowing all the context.
>>22913756yeah
>>22913760This. DYRL is not only completely remade and reanimated, but even the scenes that were somehow based on TV Macross scenes have a ton of changes like different characters participating in them. They didn't just take some TV show scenes and reanimated them, they took the scenario and put it on its head.
>>22913529>The main issue with DYRL is that it skips the whole start of the conflict with the attack on Earth and the Macross launching, since it starts when they already on Earth.I wouldn't even call that an issue because it's pretty easy to run with the whole In Medias Res thing.
>>22913274DYRL covers all the necessary lore in about the same amount of time. People forget most of the backstory in the TV series is concentrated in that one conference during "Satan's Dolls" because a lot of the series was written as if the Supervision Army was going to come back as a third faction. >>22913529>accept everything in the setting without real explanation/exposition (like the Valkyries themselves)The backstory to Valkyries was always a bit of a joke between Kawamori and Miyatake. When Hikaru already starts out as a pilot there's no need to bother. >>22913556It's not. The fansubbers made that up because all the characters say is, "just like in the movie." All Macross media is an adaptation of "real events" as per Kawamori.
>>22913038The film is good, even great, on its own but I can't see how it could ever replace the show with its gradual development of the characters and the Macross itself. You can't make the Macross feel like a home within a short film. That took time. The film is certainly Macross at its core though and there are plenty of wonderful scenes, although I think they tried pandering to Minmay haters a bit. Also not enough Global and Claudia and I love them.
