New chapter is out!https://mangadex.org/chapter/8a857200-d591-419c-83c4-fa58995e31a1
>>22914087easily the best Gundam release of the year
>>22914087>Mars Zeon was building its own replica F90>more hardpoints, different rifle & backpack from Bosch's unit>equipped with thicker armor, beam shield & unknown support AI>described by onlookers as "patchwork" and "an enigma of engineering">has its own Hull fighter that resembles the Gigantic Arms Unit from AOZNice to see they're doing more with the Mars F90hope we get some specs in the next chapter
>>22914087Great way to use this unused design
>>22914261More like most boring.
>F90 N-TypeMan, Yasuhiro Moriki always delivers the weirdest, coolest shit for Gundam
>>22914317>more hardpointsHuh? Was that being mentioned?The entire thing is quite a mystery either way. There are at least two outsider groups hostile to Zeon that are after it, one of which got a Hull Fighter meant to dock with it, meaning that it might be not a design from Mars.
>>22914422>Was that being mentioned?Waist appears to have some variation of the original F90 mount opposed to the Zeon ver. Beam saber is now stored on the side skirt. Forearms have new equipment racks for holding a beam shield generator and new long rifle respectively
...sis?
>>22914317Reminder that the Mars F90 will eventually be developed into either the RF Sinanju or RF Sinanju Stein, to compete with F-0 (F90 Z-Type)
>>22916171the hell are you on about
>>22916171Unit 1 will become F90II and Unit 2 will become F90III.
>>22916171RF units aren't miniature, so it would have to be built around the entire suit.If they are going to choose to disguise a Gundam as the RF version of a Char's mobile suit you just know it's gonna be Z'Gok.
>>22916480That's objectively wrong.
>>22914087This looks stupid until I remember that gundam sequel designs exist
>>22916536Exactly! They did not upgrade the Unit 1 any further, Unit 2 became the F90II, and the Unit 3 became the F90III/Cluster. Other anon lost their marbles.
>>22916536First part is correct, second part is questionable but certain features make it seem like it is AT LEAST Cluster's prototype, if not its base.
>>22916536Unit 3 became F90IIIY>>22916502Justice already did it. F90 Zero Type is presumed by many to be the NT-D variant of the F90 which is why its name would be changed to F-0 to homage the RX-0 Unicorn
>>22916550Unit 1 of Mars' F90, not Unit 1 of SNRI's.I get it's confusing, but it's not that hard to get either.
>>22916554>presumed by manyit's just you, anon
>>22916502NT-D systems necessitate enlarging of an MS frame, and it would also set precedent for the ATMOS, Amakusa, and Baroque all being larger suits to accommodate advanced tech
>>22916556Why would DEI require erasure of F90 if it's currently being promoted in manga right now?
>>22916562what the fuck are you talking about
>>22916560ATMOS is a military competition, not a mobile suit? the hell is this peanut gallery of a thread?
>>22916568The MSA-120 ATMOS? The suped-up Draig variant?
>>22916582there's no such thing
>>22916587https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/MSA-120_DraigBandai needs to leave the glowing to the professionals
>>22916594Yeah, MSA-120 Draig, or MSA-0120 Draig. ATMOS is not the name of it. ATMOS is not anything. ATMS, on the other hand, is the competition organized by the Federation with the name standing for Advanced Tactical Mobile Suit. MSA-120 competed and lost against F90. If any suit ought to be called that it'd be F90 but that's still fucking stupid so nobody does it.Calling MSA-120 "ATMOS" is pure western fanon and yet another case of the wiki pulling shit out of its ass.
>>22916599Late UC being self-contained is why it never sold well
>>22916606why is this thread of all things being botted
>>22917853
>>22918071Interesting how Cluster is on the first cover. I get it's in the name but I'd expect the Mars Unit 2 given Cluster hasn't shown up in the story proper yet.
>>22917854Damn there was a hidden barzam II in there, I’m astonished I never noticed it. Must’ve been from a fight between rezeon and mars zeon.Also>>22917856 I knew that was a proto goog there
>>22917854>>22918133wait where's the barzam
>>22918318It’s actually hidden in plain sight, look I’m front of the ruined gelgoog III
>>22917854Where's Barzam II? I don't see it...
>>22918322oh shit, you're right. At first glance it's just rubble but it really can't be anything else when you notice it. That's really well done.
>>22918322Oh, nice.I kinda wish there were some that are still operational in the story.
>>22918327>>22918331It’s also funny that the hizack pictured here is just a plain vanilla one rather than the rezeon variants, must’ve been one that was snatched by axis after the titans fell
>>22918351Could have been from the Axis remnants, or a later group. Sleeves had Hizacks as well and are explicitly mentioned in the chapter. Or some other minor group, not even necessarily Zeon proper. Just some mercenaries down on their luck or an unrelated Titans remnant band. Really, the options are infinite, which makes this so damn cool.
WINNERS FOREVERitsu no jidai mo hito wa jiyuu o kaketeWINNERS FOREVERtatakai tsuzukeru kodoku na made ni hitori
>>22920646fuck yeah
>>22920646>>22920653holy shit it really is the same angle
>>22920646But when does the F90N get developed into the RXF-91
>>22920666???depending on how you look at it it either doesn't or we've already seen the process
>>22920653Yeah, other parts of the same ED also had core fighters flying upward like the Hull Fighter in that >>22920646
>>22920668
Love this little guy, may it receive variants for years to come.
>>22914087Yay, new chapter.
MG Cluster can switch out the hardpoint parts to base F90s for compatibility with mission packs. This might just be model kit convenience to have this option without having to modify the design itself, or maybe it's a hint Cluster will have some new equipment as well. Given it's the titular suit of the manga, I would not be surprised. X and Z are still a mystery, after all.And Mars F90 kit also hinted at variant equipment for it years ago, it uses a different hardpoint format that's not compatible with mission packs. Now we know unit 2's beam shield and VSBR and the N Pack Verethragna are a thing.
>>22920646Never, the RXF-91 is based on the F91.What's more, they're made by two separate organizations, with one being developed using industrial espionage.Now, an RFX-90 might be an interesting side story...
>>22925133replied to the wrong post?
>>22925188ah, sorry.meant for >>22920666
>>22925133Technically, it's based on F90V, same as F91.RFX-90 is probably not a thing though, as G-Cannons and Hardygun family can be considered to be practical application of F90 tech already.Silhouette itself was only made to collect data for AE's actual F91 competitor, Neo Gundam. Ironically, what they made is actually closer to Cluster.
>>22925133We see a secret Anaheim squad gathering data on F90's operations explicitly for the Silhouette Formula Project.
>>22925244They already had F90 data from the battle with Draig and whatever info SNRI had shared with them for F71. Hell, G-Customs that were used could be said to be a part of Silhouette Formula project themselves.What they were interested in is what Fastest Formula was testing. In other words, mission packs.
>>22925287so, F90's operations. With the mission packs.
> Job John is happy about F90 Unit 2 being abducted.> He wanted to see what kind of new tech he can retrieved after it comes homeAbsolute mad man
>>22925309based, really
>>22925294The point is, F90 is just a testbed prototype machine that by itself isn't that impressive. What AE was looking for is the next big thing that SNRI would test using it to incorporate into their new flagship MS.
>>22925344it absolutely is impressive on its own, the mission packs are a part of that
>>22925348>it absolutely is impressive on its ownSo is Draig. Anaheim wasn't lagging that much behind SNRI, aside for computer with pseudo-personality, and that was way before said gathering data event took place. It's quite possible that if you'd switch the pilots Draig would've won the competition.>the mission packs are a part of thatSure, but they aren't F90 specific, but rather are an attempt for standardized loadouts for the whole family of suits, via mounting on hardpoints.Honestly, there wouldn't be much of a point for them if they were only made for one MS model of which there are three units built in total.What (Zeonic branch of) AE was looking in those tests is the next big thing basically. SNRI was testing a lot of highly experimental stuff with FF Corps.
>>22925487>So is DraigAt a much higher cost. The F90 basically matched it in performance but won in cost too. Not to mention the F90 does it all while maintaining unparalleled flexibility.
>>22925487Some of the mission packs are pretty much ready for large scale use but a lot of them are first and foremost for evaluating technology in the context of the second phase mobile suits. That's what the Wadjet Eye corps were ostensibly focused on studying - including witnessing performance of N and V packs.
anyone know how many of the older MS Journal entries were translated? These are from a few years before F90FF, Monthly Mobile Machine calls back to them sometimes.
>>22925530Cost wasn't really a problem, as neither of these machines were intended for mass production, at least while keeping the specs.Like, at that point one could say that EFF should've looked into Randegger's offerings because they got some crazy cost effectiveness for what they are.>>22925532Considering that they pretty much ignored N pack performance while making Silhouette and Neo Gundams, I'd say that specific data wasn't that useful.But other than that, yeah, pretty much. Remind me, have they seen F90 doing WoL decades before Victory?
>>22925615N is just the plot device for to bring up connection between AI and Newtype. It isn't that meaningfull for the rest of the production for it is mainly Job John's madness.
>>22925627It is meaningful as a test of Psychoframe before using it in F91 production and I can see Hull Fighter data being useful for the eventual creation of Y-pack.
>>22925615N pack might have been difficult to replicate anyway since SNRI had to make friends with Jupiter agents to reinvent Psychoframe for it. Meanwhile Anaheim eventually introduced Neo Psycommu into Neo Gundam thanks to collaboration with Buch so they had their own hidden aces.I am actually not sure if they had the opportunity to spy on the W pack. After quick checking I don't think they're shown monitoring the first test, and by the time downtuned W was incorporated into the FF form Wadjet Eye wasn't really functional. It very well could have slipped past them at that time.
>>22925615Randegger did actually participants in the competition, ATMS was an open call. But the presented machine didn't meet spec requirements so it must have fallen off at an earlier stage, presumably together with other projects, until only F90 and MSA-120 remained and had to duke it out.What's interesting here is that ATMS was a big shift in EFF's approach to new mobile duit procurement - they wanted something truly impressive and with high performance rather than the previous attitude which favoured Heavygun-like projects: simple refinements with small conflicts and small budgets in mind rather than ground breaking prototypes. This sudden change was in favor of SNRI and a problem for Anaheim, and it's implied there were political motivations behind it. Primarily reducing Anaheim's influence on the weapons market and most likely Hauzerie Ronah making early moves to set the stage for Cosmo Aristocracy.
>>22925646I'm pretty sure that Anaheim still had Psychoframe data, it was just a matter of EF giving a green light for using it (which is something they did for SNRI eventually).
>>22925676Anaheim certainly didn't delete their records if it, but it's another matter if the MS development teams later on could realistically access it.
>>22925678We know a few MSA-120 units were equipped with Psychoframe, but this could be related to internal disputes between Anaheim's factions that were hinted on in F90FF. And now with Dir showing up in Cluster it's highly likely to be a direct sequel to FF's plot. Silhouette Formula is also gonna play a part so we might eventually get more details.
>>22925659ATMS was clearly rigged and was more of a political struggle than the fair evalution of designs. No one, but Anaheim and SNRI was really considered. You can't call it a coincidence that Ronah family pushed for that contest and then someone accidentally leaked Buffo's Den'an Zon design to spice up the competition.Wake up people!
>>22925678I highly doubt that they would keep that information closed after seeing both F90N and F91 using it. At least unless there's an internal strife hinted at in the manga at play.
>>22925348Anon stop trying to argue with a UC Geewunner, you'll never winThey will never acknowledge anything to do with the UC Next project or Banrise's attempts at making all of UC into one cohesive and linear timeline
>>22925693
>>22925693>Silhouette Formula is also gonna play a part so we might eventually get more details.I doubt we'll see Silhouette in the main story proper, but we might see a custom Gundam-head MS that was the base unit for it mentioned in Monthly Mobile.>In fact, there’s even a theory that among the in-house plans was an RGM-111-based Gundam type submitted by the Von Braun branch. This suit was later considered the design base for the RXF91.
>>22925577I've seen only the first two issues (out of five total).
>>22926341What you're "theorizing" already exists as the G Custom Unit 1, Geewunner
>>22926403G-Custom was most likely made later, though it's probably related to that machine
>>22926403G-Custom's first unit was completed in UC 0114, 3 years after ATMS match. It incorporates MSA-120's mega boost tech.Schizo.
>>22926403I thought about G-Custom (not sure why you specified Unit 1), but it seems different enough and it's a deriviative of RGM-111Y which was made after SNRI gave F70 data to Anaheim.Not to mention Hardygun and SF project is associated more with Granada branch, while Von Braun one was against it.I do see certain similarities though.>GeewunnerThe fuck does that even mean in this context?
>>22926403>What you're "theorizing"It's a literal quote from Monthly Mobile Vol. 5.You're arguing with a fictional character.
RX-100 is another mystery nigga
>>22926436It means someone who wants early and late UC to stay disconnected
>>22926587that makes no sense in the context, or at all in any scenario
>>22926539>inb4 It's the Gundam version of the Sinanju Stein
>>22926590what
>>22926587>stay disconnectedThat implies that they weren't always connected, which is obviously false. No one, but a few retarded Unicornfags that haven't even understood their own show ever unironically thought that.It would make more sense to call OYW-only fags that term, even if in reality it's excessive and unneeded.
>>22926539You mean Neo Gundam successor? That's interesting, but I'm more curious about missing F9 family members, we only know of models 0, 1, 7 and 9.
>>22926619If we ever get a continuation of the Cosmo Babylonia War after the events of F91 i'd love to see something based on Ishigaki's F92 idea, an early fusion of Formula Project with Crossbone Vanguard's data.
>>22926634>an early fusion of Formula Project with Crossbone Vanguard's data.So a reverse idea of Vigna Zirah and Vigna Ghina II, got it.
>>22926634This looks like an After War suit>>22926539Bigger mystery than F-0 which I can only imagine is going to have elements of F90, Unicorn, F91, AND Victory all in one suit
>>22926901Two replies in one post and both equally stupid
>>22926902Not as stupid as wanting Banrise to instantly skip to developing the F92 and F100Unicorn 2 is going to be connected to F90 and F91
>>22926910Source: your assTwo machines having "0" as a model number means fuck all unless you think Zorin Soul is secretly Gabthley Mk.II
>>22926928They're not skipping to the F92, anonIs referencing Unicorn really worth giving Bandai the KyoAni treatment?
>>22926933Nobody's saying F92 or whatever can't happen. You're the only schizo insisting it's somehow directly tied to unicorn with frankly incoherent arguments if you even have any. How long have you been learning english?
>>22926936I'm not saying Cluster is connected to UnicornI'm saying Unicorn 2 is part of the UC Next project timelineNowhere did I ever say Cluster is that sequel>>22926604Clearly the majority of posters here are that type of retarded because they all want to isolate Unicorn out as being standalone from the rest of universal century
>>22926910Unicorn 2 (tenative) was set to be just a year after HF in the Next UC plan. It's not even going to have Heavyguns yet, much less F90 with Z pack (aka F0).Now, we'll likely see some of the events leading up to SNRI or/and Ronah family challenging Anaheim's mobile suit monopoly, but you shouldn't expect much on a mobile suit front.>to instantly skip to developing the F92 and F100Leaving your F100 confusion aside, it wouldn't be surprising to see F92 in Cluster manga, as F9 series isn't exactly known for a linear development from one suit to the next. To elaborate, we already got F97 and F99. Banrise doesn't have to leave it as some important suit with it's own spinoff.
>>22926939>I'm saying Unicorn 2 is part of the UC Next project timelineWait, so does that mean Moon Gundam which is more or less unused ideas for Unicorn, Narrative which chronologically follows, or something else?
>>22926978He means the old "leak" from back when NT was announced, when we first learned about Hathaway's Flash adaptation.Sorry for an ANN link, can't post images right now.https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-20/gundam-hathaway-film-trilogy-overseas-gundam-uc2-drama-teased/.130647Also, ignore "overseas drama" wording, it just means hour long episodes.
>>22926993>Dude trust me Ever new late-UC project is being cancelled after Cluster ends
>>22927408>new late-UC project??????You mean midquels between F91 and Victory?It's literally what Crossbone is.Well, Cluster too, as technically the debut of F90IIIY was set after the events of F91.No one has even mentioned any cancelations besides you.
>>22927521
>>22927521>>22927523Uh-huh.Makes sense.
>>22927427No one besides me has any actual interest in seeing how UC is planned out, then Everyone else needs it compartmentalized and every title in a standalone continuity like Thunderbolt or Gaia Gear
>>22927537what the fuck are you talking about you utter schizoid
>>22927537You're insane making that claim in F90 thread, when Fastest Formula and Cluster made references to a lot of media with questionable canonicity, including Double-Fake, G Gen, AoZ Reboot, Crossbone Dust and even Gaia Gear via Zorin Soul cameo. It uncompartentalizes the shit out of UC.Between this, the new F91 manga, the Victory manga and Seeräuber, it's clear that there is an internal push for more Late UC content.Hell, I'm pretty sure that Fastest Formula was written with making it a TV series down the line, with a lot of parts left to be expanded on.But I doubt we'll see anything on the anime front set in it before Sunrise finishes Hathaway's Flash and I really fucking doubt that their Unicorn sequel project would have anything to do with F0.
Me sad it's cancelled
>>22927610wrong thread anon
>>22927610Same. The story is whatever, but I was looking forward to see more MS action (mainly featuring Wagtail and Vanargand).>>22927612Kek, sometimes I mix those two threads up too.
>>22927612Did anon mean the yaoi thread, the Seed thread, the BHA genderbending thread, the Tieria genderbend and/or sex with Innovades thread?
>>22927604I feel like that's a bit too optimistic unless a potential animated F90 thing is way down the line. They would not have made the MG kit of the titular suit premium bandai if it was something they'd like to make a lot of merch of as with TV series.
>>22927631The other thread with TR Project offshoots and Mars Zeon.
>>22927632Potential animated F90 is a ground to sell all the RF series as Gunpla. Just think about all the money Bandai would make from that!But yeah, I thought it would be F90FF -> F90 -> F90C
>>22927641that thread and this are honestly the best on this board
>>22927863What’s cool is that for these you could put on the rest of the mission packs on the F90 2
>>22927604>I really fucking doubt that their Unicorn sequel project would have anything to do with F0.You say that like Bandai isn't considering using the name for an F90 NT-D variant
>>22928107Because it's not?
>>22928120Because UC is still compartmentalized, despite the claims that it's notThey should properly announce making Unicorn standalone, not slyly announce it through shitposting
>>22928129oh it's you againFuck off, we don't want you here
>>22928107I wasn't saying that Z-pack can't be NT-D variant (even if I'm not sold on the idea completely due to the overlap with N-pack), but rather that from what little we know about the Unicorn sequel it seems like a huge asspull to have ANY F90 in it at all.Unless they'd decide to wildly change their initial idea of it as a story that directly follows HF and would set it somewhere after F91, but at that point it's a completely different concept.>>22928129You're mixing up compartmentalization and canonicity. Banrise refers to Hathaway movie as CCA sequel not because Unicorn isn't canon, but because Unicorn story isn't that important to Hathaway's. There was a similar postioning of CCA being a sequel to the Gundam movies at the time, rather than Zeta.Simply putting it, you're overthinking it.
>>22928216Nothing really happens between Hathaway and F90 besides the rise of Mars Zeon and founding of Crossbone VanguardOh yay, Banana somehow returned, he's in a Gustav Karl, and fighting Den'an Zons, also there is no special Gundam suit for the whole storyThere, there's your /m/ approved Gruntslop UC2 pitch
>>22929142I wish, but nothing really happened AS FAR AS WE KNOW. This shit changes like every few years now.Honestly, I'm not so sure how Banrise intended to fit it in at the time myself, to the point, where I'd expect it to be set out of the Earth sphere, if they want to give conflict any scale at all.Like Mineva goes to Mars/Jupiter on a political mission/spiritual journey, but Mars Zeon and/or Jovians aren't fans of that or want to use her and field out a new line of monoeye toys... err, suits. Also Banana gets a brand new sikrit super special gen 5 MS for the long distance travel, so that Xi and Penelope wouldn't be so lonely. As a sidestory it can explore how SNRI got psychoframe and feature F89 even.---But yeah, I'd prefer gruntslop. No Den'an Zons though, it's way too early for them.
>>22929181So F-0 = F88?
>>22929228No, F0 is being left for "Unicorn 3", IF it's actually related to Unicorn at all, because there's no reliable information about the connection at all.
>>22929228>F-0
uoooohh
>>22929336Interesting.I wonder if it means that they really would make more equipment for Mars F90 besides the N-pack equivalent. Because otherwise there's only 2 packs left.
>>22929483We know it has the beam shield and VSBR, even if it's not a proper mission pack it could be classified as an adjacent thing.
>>22929280There's no Unicorn 3 planned or discussed at this time, Bandai intern NT-D and Formula will not remain separate forever despite you needing them to
>>22929228F0 is said to be the continuation of F9 line classification after the numbers run out. That's it. That's all we know about it.
>>22929759That makes no sense considering they can just make an F100 after Record Breaker
>>22930003the numbers originally had a meaning but it kinda all went to hell via crossbone shenanigans
>>22929759Well, IIRC it was mentioned that it's what F90Z is. If that isn't retconned, it's likely based on Unit 1 and made after Crossbone Steel 7.>>22930003The next in F9 series after Record Breaker would be F910. You can see why they decided against it.>>22930014They still do. F89 is an exception.
>>22930058>The next in F9 series after Record Breaker would be F910There is no "ninety-ten" because of the base ten number system that normal humans learn in math classYou could have an F9X, but deliberately avoiding 100 is retardedBy your logic it would have already appeared by now in Crossbone X11
>>22930200by "it" I mean a non-F90Z F-0
>>22930200>There is no "ninety-ten" because of the base ten number system that normal humans learn in math classI'd assume it would be called "F nine-ten" at that point, which is the way all Formula MS were ought to be called from the start, but yes, this mess is pretty much what I was talking about.Well, if F0 had started a new series, the next suit in it would be F01.>By your logic it would have already appeared by now in Crossbone X11I don't think so? Crossbone got enough on the plate on its own and Hasegawa is more interested in making funny freaks than exploring Formula project.In the new ongoing Crossbone series the new Crossbones were apparently made out of Amakusas, if anon haven't lied in the thread a little while ago.
>>22930438Why are you constantly acting like you're privy to information on the manga that every one else doesn't know?
>>22930451I'm just sharing my observations that I feel relevant to the topic to make sure that everyone can follow my line of thought.Never once I said that no one else knows this. In fact, I'd expect there being bigger autists than me correcting me if I'm wrong and giving a source for that.It's better than not having any actual arguments and saying unfounded crap like "F-0 gonna have NT-D, because over six and a half years ago there was a tease for Unicorn 2 (tenative name), even if the timeline given makes the connection between those two things bullshit" and calling everyone with functional brain calling that out Unicorn haters when they aren't subscribing to your fanfiction.
>>22929336Ah nice, this means those mars packs will be included but we’ll probably see what exactly X and Z are first
>>22929336
>>22930501Unicorn 2 is going to be Unicorn's Frozen Teardrop and your friend at Bandai told you this in advance, got it
>>22930501Crossbone X-12 is based off the Amakusa
wanna hear something fucked up? Yokohama Gundam's F00 model number stands for "Formula"https://x.com/Char_Tweet/status/1845085669099475185Wanna hear something more crazy? It has an "Aæ-MU-Ro-0" AI system.
still the funniest thing ever written for Gundam
>>22932210
>>22932021https://x.com/oh_syz/status/1466774119987695616
>>22932021Amakusa will be real one day?
imagine if they make it real
>>22933068Would that be the first case of a build fighter’s original becoming canon? I’ve yet to see such example
>>22933178maybe not exactly canon but Unicorn Perfectibility is treated as a UC MSV or such rather than a Build kit
>>22929142he'll have a "Gustav Karl" That purges its fatass armor revealing the Gundam Double Unicorn with 2 horns on its head that split and make 4 V-fins.
>>22933230>Unicorn with 2 hornsUhhh... you mean Bicorn?
>>22933270>Qilin Gundam
>>22932021So what you're saying is the first "formula" suit would technically be an RX-78-8?
>>22934780F00 is probably post-F91 at the very least
>>22934934Then why is the number used on an RX-78?
>>22935929Because it's made using an old unknown RX-78 unit? What kind of question is that?
>>22935929
>>22933196I think the original design is still a Build Try AGE thing, but they made a virtually identical version as a UC MSV. We could easily see something like that with F91RR too, a design very closely inspired by it. If they do that, I wouldn't mind if they dropped the triple v-fin. Everything else can stay as is I think.
>>22937249It's wacky that they actually used those characters, given how unfitting the chapter they originated in was.
>>22937862Gundam has always been wacky
>>22938068I wasn't talking about Gundam, I was talking about the decision to use them ALMOST as is in a non-parody UC work.They are less fitting than Crossbone, honestly. It's just a combination of the tone and design. The vibe, if you will.Not that I dislike it, mind you. Just an observation. Honestly I hope that they won't tone them down too much.
imagine a metal build F90
It's cool how the new lineart is a fusion of Okawara and Fujita designs