New Seed Freedom Zero trailer just droppedhttps://x.com/seed_hdrp/status/1857362911162933254Shinn and Luna confirmed to be swabbing the poop deck
>>22935957Heine Westenfluss SF?
Jesus this shit is ugly
So when they said "prequel", they meant "sequel to Freedom".
They could've hand-drawn the mecha for this..... What the fuck happened to all of Sunrise's mecha animators?
>>22935982They are old. Mecha animators are now more and more rare, especially with younger generations. And 3D also is used for budget reasons
>>22935953god damn they're even uglier now
>>22935982Note they replaced hand drawn sequences with more CG in the Special Edition. Fukuda wants CG.
>>22935961No it's a mock battle Remember freedom vs strike in seed?
>>22935953Oh boy, more seed slop that I'll never fucking watch.
>>22936066Cared enough to post.
>>22936059wtf is this from?
>>22936066>slop slop slop slopShut. The fuck. Up!
>>22936116It's around mid first season Seed when Archangel has returned to Orb after Operation Spitbreak, when Erica Simmons reveals she rebuilt Strike and it's given to Mu
>>22935981No? It's literally a prequel, with Kira having his more shaggy hair look from Destiny and everyone still wearing Orb/Zaft uniforms. Looks like the rumor is its not just the freedom heist incident but following Kira from the end of Destiny to the start of Freedom.
>>22936229>even the characters look worseWhat the fuck is going on? Where are the fucking lines?
>Shinn literally swabbing the poop deckKira may have let him join but this is payback for destroying his beloved Freedom
>>22936236What did Shinn do this time?
>>22935982>>22936038There's an interview from late 2022 or early 2023 where they were teasing the new designs, Fukuda and Okawara mentioned they switched to CG because there's a lack of skilled 2d mecha animators these days and because SEED's designs keep getting crazier CG just makes more sense to them.
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>>22936262Exist. Say something stupid. Compliment Destiny more than her.
>>22936038>Note they replaced hand drawn sequences with more CG in the Special Edition. Fukuda wants CG.Yes and no.They needed to use CG with the special edition because all the hand drawn veteran animators they used for the movie moved on to other projects and were unavailable to do fixes. So they used whatever staff they had and used CGI. Plus his budget for the Special Edition was limited. Fukuda convinced Bandai to let him do it by saying they could reuse and recycle existing CGI assets and save money. And since the Seed movie did so well, Fukuda had a lot of leeway and goodwill. So Bandai let him do it
>>22936332>all the hand drawn veteran animators they used for the movie moved on to other projectsHmmm I wonder where they all went?
>>22936332so it's that kind of "special" edition, very "artistic", got it
ITT coping UCcels seething over total SEED domination.
>>22935953Honestly starting to dislike Hirai's art style for characters.
Why do they call it the poop deck?
>>22936335To work on the 00 sequel, Urdr Hunt The Animation, and whatever else they're cooking. Bandai did state they had a packed schedule up until 2029 at the very least, even if they are putting more focus into UC in time for the 50th.
>>229363802002 hentai looking fucks
>>22936381where else are birds gonna shit
>>22936380Finally. Bikinis have been unbanned. Nature is healing.
>>22936380Why does the bathing suit have the ZAFT logo on it?
>>22936518government issued gear for your government run military school
>>22935953>not even a whisper from hathaway in 3 years>Freedom Zero gets teaser in less than 12 months
>>22936527>>22936518
>>22936275>>22936231Kira is definitely not piloting SF in these clips. That's not his style. Kira prefers long range and doesn't use his beam saber unless necessary. He definitely wouldn't dive head-on against an enemy and try to slash their biggest shield. It's probably some simulation or something to test the Gyan.
>>22936551Box office receipts talk. I think Freedom being as popular as it was made Scamco change some plans.
>>22936551What the fuck are you on about? Bandai recently stated that they're reorienting to UC up to its 50th Anniversary, and that they're sorry HF2 and 3 were delayed but it's now back on track for a 2025 release. They also said they have more AU stuff planned up to 2029.
>>22936733Any footage from Hathaway 2 in 3 years? Ohh.
>>22936592Isn't Agnes BF the guy piloting it? I assume he's the vilain of the OVA and try fighting Agnes. Kira saves her (explaining her giant one sided crush) and the Freedom gets stolen soon after with Agnes ex BF dying. (it needs to be after though, since Kira doesn't meet Foundation until the movie)
>>22936335Tomino's next work is studio 1 or 2 I believe. SEED is another.
>>22936592They wouldn't have the mock battle equipment if it was a simulation.
>freedom>freedom special edition>freedom zeroJesus christ, is bandai really that desperate for money nowadays? I don't even think freedom was bad.
>>22936740Why bother with footage when you get a personal promise from Ogata himself, who's a hardcore UC fan, and begrudgingly admitted that SEED was now an essential tentpole series alongside UC, while still playing down the value of other AUs in one of his recent interviews?Besides, it's not like HF1 made that much money compared to Freedom.
>>22936755Freedom gave Bandai like, Multiple billion yens. It was that succesful. It's also the most succesful Gundam movie ever made.Be prepared for the next AU to be SEED influenced.
>>22936768Yeah they figured it would make at least a profit but nobody was expecting it to do THAT well. It's like how Marvel and Disney reacted after the first Avengers film.
>>22936760In other words, it isn't as popular as Seed.Next!
>>22936759>ahh a fellow war criminal. You got away with zero consequences too, aye?
>>22936774It is, though the Hathaway movie is I believe the second most selling Gundam movie. And this includes the fact it was available on Netflix pretty soon after.Hathaway just got fucked HARD by covid restrictions with Australia. And the studio also was asked to help on Gwitch animation in a few episodes (the ones with the best animation)I assume next year will be the announcement though. And Movie 3 will be announced for the 40th anniversary of the novel.
>>22936777>second mostBehind seed..stop embarrassing yourself
>>22936775What did yzak do wrong? He was kept in the dark the entire show, and he prioritized protecting plant in the end.
>>22936792The civilian shuttle from the beginning of seed
>>22936794IIRC, doesn't everyone just forget about it until Destiny?
>>22936794To be fair, I don't think he knew there were children on the shuttle. Wasn't it supposed to be for officials and the civilians using it to escape happened at the last minute?
>>22936768The next show could very well be set in CE, but not called SEED, instead showcasing a different time period of that AU
>>22936807It's still a war crime to execute enemies who are no longer capable of combat. It's just that by the end of the war both sides are treating the list of war crimes as a checklist so nobody is interested in prosecuting Yzak for it until the post-war period where he nearly gets the death penalty for it.
>>22936807>Wasn't it supposed to be for officials and the civilians using it to escape happened at the last minute?No, there never was a plan for any EA officials to go to Earth. Besides, the shuttle had no identifying signal whatsoever, and even if it did, the N-jammer usage in the battle and the atmospheric entry makes sending/receiving signals difficult if not impossible.I guess Yzak never got punished for it because there was no indication it was only carrying civilians. Sure it was unarmed, but it's not improbable for it to be a military transport because it's literally an EA shuttle launched from an EA warship. Hell, the entire 8th fleet was also wiped out, so the only way Yzak would have gotten any kind of formal crime charged would be for either his own people to go over the combat data and discover and report the incident of having shot down the shuttle, and/or the Archangel makes it way to Alaska and dumps its data which includes the Strike's recording of the Duel blowing up the shuttle, because N-jammers on the Earth prevent reliable long range communication.The absolute best way to safely send off the civilians would have been to paint bigass markings on the shuttle to show it was carrying civilians, and for the 8th fleet to radio broadcast on all channels that it was evacuating a civilian shuttle. Then ZAFT's hands are tied, and they can't go after the shuttle without a reasonable cause. If ZAFT suspects them to be lying and that the shuttle is trying to escape with VIPs (maybe they're G Project engineers or it's carrying G Project data) the most they can do without appearing publicly as complete assholes would be to capture the shuttle. Or maybe ZAFT decides just wipes out all of the enemies there so no one can report back about what happened, and they'd have to strongarm their own crew into blotting the incident from official records.
>>22936849Yzak was tried for blowing up the shuttle after the war, was convicted, and would have been executed. Durandal intervened and pardoned him.
>>22936810I'd be surprised if we get a show set in the Cosmic Era where Kira and Lacus aren't main characters.
>>22936859Oh damn, okayguess he got the short end of the deal, didn't Yzak turn against durandal and fight alongside Terminal and allies?
>>22936866Did Dearka do it as well? The two seem like a package deal at this point.
>>22936866Yeah but Yzak's opinion on Durandal soured as Destiny went on. Every time he moved the goalpoasts it would cut back to Plant and Yzak and Dearka being the only guys not being happy with what he was doing. I guess Yzak owing his life to Durandal wasn't enough to have him not go along with him at the end.
>>22936863They could animate Eclipse or Astray. Eclipse would work as a short, 13-26 episode series or so, and Astray could be mixed between OVAs and short series, or combined into a slightly longer series. Both are also fairly popular.
>>22936866Yzak made use of the legal loophole that the Eternal was still classified as an active ZAFT ship to declare that they needed to protect it. How or why the Eternal was never removed from the registry is unknown, but it can easily be handwaved as either a Terminal hack or Clyne loyalists keeping it in the registry. That and the fact that it was never actually published that Lacus Clyne and the Eternal had defected from ZAFT.
>>22937012Fukada would have no interest in that, seeing as he's known for not liking Astray and has never said a thing about Stargazer.I'd actually like a 08th MS Team style romp in CE, but such things will never be.
>>22936805Kira very much remembered and it's fresh in his mind when he faces off against Yzak at Alaska and he has a chance to kill him with his far superior Freedom but instead he spares him to show his new Jesus mentality. After that it's hard to say as Kira and Yzak never interact as allies once in either SEED Destiny or Freedom. In fact this trailer for Freedom Zero is the first time he's ever shown interacting face to face with anyone that was on the Archangel crew when they were enemies. Throughout Destiny he only interacts with either Dearka or Athrun
>>22937017Fukuda said he wasn't planning on doing anything else beyond this prequel and is planning on letting other people handle CE from now on.
>>22937013He also straight up helped Kira and Athrun destroy part of Requiem so he wasn't fooling anyone there.
>>22936121I'll stop when you stop watching slop.
>>22937038You WILL like Seed if you know what's fuckin good for ya
>>22936759The Heavenly Handshake
>>22936759I want to see some Shinn and Mu interactions.
>>22936759>Don't tell me we have to babysit a fucking Puru
>>22936759>remember when we tried killing eachother?>lol yea that was wild
>>22936759>Wanna drift? I know a really good mountain near this place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eQ2DvpLwxwNami Tamaki video.
I'm really surprised with how fast the prequel was made considering the movie took 20 years.CE must have a lot of momentum now. An Astray adaptation or SEED Season 3 might even be on the table I bet.>>22936275I'm really curious about the Blue Murasame, it must be Kira's right?
>>22937124Thanks for the find. Hopefully she will actually be featured this time. It was pretty dirty how she was relegated to promo only for Freedom.
>>22937151>An Astray adaptationNo. Stop. No one wants that. I'll give you that a few of the Astray mecha are liked by fans, but overall...the story is absolute nonsense. Fukuda himself doesn't like it. And going forward, he's probably going to be a Producer (if he's not directing) on Seed projects. He's made it clear he doesn't like Astray.
>>22936592>>22936745>>22936750Nah. Agnes and her BF are piloting Rising Freedom and Immortal Justice, and delivering it to Compass.According to Fukuda, We know the Gyan was originally designed for Yzak, and that he pilots it before handing it off to Compass. Then Agnes gets the Gyan later. The scene is probably a simulation where Yzak is testing the Gyan against a pre-programmed FreedomProbably go down like this:>Yzak defeats Strike Freedom in a battle. >It reveals its a 1v1 Duel simulator like Gunpla Fighters.>Zaft Engineers cheer at his victory, and brag about how not even Strike Freedom can defeat their new next generation Gyan.>Yzak scolds the Zaft engineers and says the simulation is not the same as fighting against the real Strike Freedom and its pilot. That Kira is not so easily defeated. >engineersE try to talk back about their battle data being perfect>Yzak scolds them some more>camera cuts away to Dearkka standing nearby and sighing at the whole situation.I would bet good money on it.
>>22936777>was asked to help on Gwitch animation in a few episodes (the ones with the best animation)G-Witch ended up looking pretty good, but it's kind of wild that even with the halved episode count and cour break they had to call in all hands to get it finished. I honestly have no idea how Bandai is going to be able to keep producing 2D mecha for TV at this rate. There's not exactly going to be more trained mecha specialists animating by the time the next AU show launches.
>>22937328They could've done what kyoani did, hire a bunch of young animators and teach them how to animate like the seniors at the studio.
>>22937019I swear "Fukuda will never bury the hatchet with Astray" is the new "Joe Odagiri hates all tokusatsu outright"
>>22936758Cags forever.
>>22937328>G-Witch ended up looking pretty goodI feel like it only looked good because of all the extra CGI sparkles and light effects. The raw animation itself seemed rather bland.
>>22937519I disagree but it's beside the point. Unlike IBO it's at least finished and polished, which I suspect was the idea behind the switch to two cour.
>>22937519It's more the style itself which was bland, the animation was pretty good. Especially during fight scenes.
>>22937524>>22937536The Digital effects hard carried G-witch. Without the CGI, digital lighting, and digital sparkles....the show would look about the same as Gundam Age.
>>22937555I don't understand the point you think you're making. Yes, the show would probably not look as nice if you removed half the production pipeline.
>>22937555>Without the CGI, digital lighting, and digital sparkles....the show would look about the same as Gundam Age.Considering that show looks great, not sure if you're trying to complimenting or criticizing
>>22937556>removed half the production pipeline.Are you claiming that the cgi/digital effects is HALF the production pipeline? Thanks for agreeing with me. This effects hard carried the show. In some places it's too much. If you removed them like a woman uses makeup remover wipes on her face then the show would look like similar to Gundam AGE. The underlying animation is not that impressive.
>>22937555So it's good then?
>>22937565Anon are you having this autism party just because I said the wrong show looked nice?Because unless you're trying to accuse it of dishonest animation or some other bullshit this makes no sense. CCA probably wouldn't look as nice if you took away the paint and forced them to only use the raw lineart, it doesn't mean colour and solid shapes were a crutch.
>>22937571You are complimenting the digital effects. Not the animation, composition, movement, or choreography of the mecha battles.Digital effects are the frosting of the cake. It's not supposed to be the cake itself.
>>22937576You did not ask me about any of those things, nor were they relevant to the conversation. I have also not complemented the digital effects at any point.All you did initially was assert that the show wouldn't look as good without part of its intended presentation, which I agree is true. Everything since has you being weirdly hung up on it being a negative and trying to own people.
>>22937567>Age-3 JobberOrbital had a hard life
>>22937577>nor were they relevant to the conversationOf course they are. What do you think animation is?
>>22937580I'm sorry, I must've missed the part where a passing comment about G-Witch looking nice where it wasn't even the central point required a fucking dissertation on directoral style and lighting choice to prevent someone having an autism attack.
>>22937577What are you getting confused about? Anon is saying all the extra particle effects and and digital composting is the nicest looking part of the show. I get what he's saying.>>22937571>CCA probably wouldn't look as nice if you took away the paint and forced them to only use the raw lineart, it doesn't mean colour and solid shapes were a crutch.CCA would look great in Black and White. CCA would look pretty interesting if it was mostly line art and shading too. Tomino did a solid job directing the visuals.
>>22937017And Tomino was exactly thrilled with the animated UC sidestories for one reason or another (IIRC, he didn't like that the Gundam was made less special or something during the OYW), but that didn't stop Bandai from chasing the $$$.It won't matter if it isn't what Fukuda wants or not; it'll be whatever Bandai wants, even if they have to attach a different director to it, like they did with Stargazer.
>>22937591>It won't matter if it isn't what Fukuda wants or not; it'll be whatever Bandai wants, even if they have to attach a different director to it, like they did with Stargazer.Fukuda has made so much money for Bandai that he will become Bandai. It would not surprise me if he becomes an Executive at Bandai or Sunrise. Fukuda is already good friends with the President of Sunrise. He's proven he can make a successful anime AND sell model kits.
I'll forgive everything if we get Cagalli/Lunamaria nipples.
>>22937052I prefer Sneed
>>22937555Gundam AGE looked beautiful, one of the best looking digital Gundam series, and honestly that's mostly because it was far less reliant on compositing effects like modern digital anime.
>>22937555AGE might have level 5 design which are not for everyone, but it had gorgeous animation and art.
>>22936759>Once we get rid of Sven Cal Bayang, The Heaven's plan will resume
Can we PLEASE just get a cool showing of Destroy Gundam in the prequel?
>>22937291If it's a simulation why is SF using dummy sabers? It's a mock battle
>>22937779Dummy sabers? Where did you come up with that idea?
>>22937567It's odd that Sunrise made Gundam Age without delays or issues.But Sunrise struggled to make G-witch and had to call in EVERYBODY to help finish animating it. And it was only half the episodes of Gundam Age too. They had twice the amount of time to make it.
>>22936749Don't staff bounce around between the studios anywaysNot that I'd be surprised that Tomino's project gets good animators
>>22937779They look like normal sabers. Not metal sticks.
>>22937555
>>22937577You both aren't even on the same page. Digital effects and cgi can be deceptively good looking but can hide bad or bland animation. That GWitch over relied on digiFX. At least that's what I think anon is saying.
>>22937663>>22937908We need a scene with all the girls bathing together and then one of them gropes Lacus' juicy ass.
>>22937775Destroy had it's cool showing in episode 32. That's the best your getting. With all the MS advances and ways to get through it's shielding it's just a big target now.
>>22937809Age was over 10 years ago. They had more experienced guys working and there wasn't much else in the Gundam pipeline at the time where as G-Witch was made while they were juggling that, UC stuff, and Freedom at the same time.
>>22937788They're yellow and SF is also using the same machine guns the Murasame's that are also training are. If it was just a simulation they'd be using SF's regular weapons since damage wouldn't matter and what would be the point of training against SF otherwise. It's a mock battle.
Even an Astray adaptation would have to be heavily reworked in order to maintain a coherent narrative and be worked alongside the main anime stuff. Half the reason Astray became so unhinged is that they had no idea what was going on with the main SEED characters (is there another war? Is there peace? Nobody knew for 20 years) so they had to come up with stuff like Librarian Works.
>>22936592>Kira prefers long range and doesn't use his beam saber unless necessaryWTF Kira uses fancy saber disable tricks all the time especially against other aces. He only uses long range beam spam against scrubs.
>>22936810CE, like Geass is popular because of the specific characters and not the setting. Any attempt to make an installment without Kira Lacus Athrun Cagalli Shinn etc having a heavy focus would be a tough sell. Hell they couldn't even get people to like Shinn at first and he only really became popular later on because Suzumura did rather than any of the characters own merit. They'd have to try really hard to make the next CE lead a super popular character that the Kira fags like and accept in order to pull that off. Maybe if they make a deliberately designed to be popular character and have Sugita voice him or something maybe it would work. But even that's not guaranteed, there's been plenty of characters that the staff were clearly design and banking to be the new Kira or Lelouch that didn't get received that way. You can't make lightning in a bottle happen.
The ultimate victory of the Clyne Faction. The last surviving Zala wants to fuck Naturals.
>>22938164This also applies to Astray. There's a reason it always comes back to Lowe, Gai and Canard.
>>22938264And what about the Quatre looking kid? Also, I feel to some extent Universal Century is like this when it comes to Zeon. Why else do we get so many One Year War side stories not to mention Zeon suits getting incorporated into CE since Destiny.
>>22938354>And what about the Quatre looking kid?He died in his first story.
>>22938600Can he survive in Super Robot Wars W?
>>22938619Obviously it's SRW, but that's not how Astray goes. He died and never comes back.
>>22938600Prayer is dead. He was a sickly little Al Da Flaga replica and seemed even less stable than Rau was. The Carbon Human version of him that was with Librarian Works was another clone.
>>22938264What if they killed off large parts of the main cast?
is Seed the most popular timeline after UC?
>>22938865Easily.
>>22935953Holy shit, last Seed show was 18 years ago.Why are they making a new Seed now?Do they hope to sell more Seed gunpla?
>>22938865No contest.
>>22938865UC has 20+ shows Seed has 5+ showsEvery other timeline sub-series only has 1 show,except for Wing and 00 which both have 2 shows.
>>22935953So what is this? Movie? OVA or special episode? Or full series?
https://twitter.com/TMR15/status/1857371815188066567TM Revolution.
>>22938886Originally Fukuda planned it as an OVA. But now they haven't decided it yet.
>>22938884What about IBO and Build Fighters?
>>22936275What the hell is happening to Hirai's artstyle
>>22938874Because Freedom broke every record set to date by a Gundam series. And it wasn't even intended to target new fans, but it brought in so many new fans that it shocked Fukuda, the staff, and the executives. Especially the fact that said new fans then promptly went on to watch SEED and Destiny and demanded more. The outpouring for more SEED single-handedly stopped Fukuda from continuing his plans to retire from Gundam (he was literally writing out his retirement spiel days before the movie's release), although he has said that he'll let other directors take on SEED after he finishes this prequel animation.
>>22938907Crazy how one movie basically resulted in a complete change of course from Barise. The turnaround from movie to now making more this fast is genuinely impressive.
>>22938907Franchise sustainability was in his heart all along. Kira knew.
>>22938896If we're taking Build Fighters into account, then Build Fighters has even more shows than Seed.But most "real" Gundam fans don't think Build Fighters is a real Gundam show, since it's a meta-fictional show.
>>22938874>>22938907is there a correlation between a Gundam show popularity and gunpla sales popularity?does an unpopular Gundam show translate to low gunpla sales?does a popular gundam show translate to high gunpla sales?are there exceptions to the rule?
>>22936380Idk why this shot is so funny
>>22938907>>22938912It didn’t actually bring in loads of new fans, it was just a huge hit with existing fans. And Fukuda wasn’t going to retire from SEED, he’s been saying since the movie’s opening night that he wanted to do a prequel. It just made enough money that Bandai let him do it
>>22938894Besides the Freedom hijacking it looks like it's also showing other stuff such as Compass being formed considering Shinn and Luna are still wearing their ZAFT uniforms while everyone else is still wearing their Orb uniforms.
>>22938912It's really stupid that it took this movie breaking all kinds of records for them to say that other AU can get animations. I swear they're run by legit retards.
>>22938154That still doesn't mean it not a simulation. It just means they are using different weapons.
>>22938944That’s not even true though there’s been a new 00 project in the works for a while
>>22938950Well that's what they said. That Seed Freedom succeeding made them realize they can release animations for other AU.
>>22938950so long that it's basically stillborn
>>22938958Wasn't there also some new G Gundam project announced too?
>>22938961That was a webnovel
>>22938959You could have said that about seed freedom too though
Of all the characters who cheated death, whch one was the most ridiculous?
>>22938963so what, now there's hope for all of the other AUs, they just need to wait 20 years for the nostalgia wave to hit?
>>22938964Quattro inexplicably going from an explosion in the middle of space in the finale of Zeta to leading Neo Zeon-but-not-that-one-the-other-one in CCA
>>22938932>It didn’t actually bring in loads of new fansOkay retard
>>22938932>It didn’t actually bring in loads of new fansApparently Fukuda and the Bandai staff were amazed at the amount of kids in the audience.>It just made enough money that Bandai let him do itOnly just? Anon...GSF is the highest selling Gundam movie of all time. It broke every Gundam record. Even did way better than Hathaway's Flash.
So was Witch really as successful as its fans said? Because like, if it was, why didn't they do more with it since release while they're scrambling to pump out more Cosmic Era stuff?Because like, I dunno, its kind of noticeable how they are pushing more Seed stuff that doesn't seem like it was planned compared with the last two series which supposedly did well but didn't get anything like this.>>22938950Honestly, with Seed Freedom's recent success, I wouldn't be shocked if they decide to test the waters to see if 00's old popularity can perform like this.And maybe others too. CE might have been the biggest AU after UC, but other older AUs have dedicated fanbases.
>>22938997>So was Witch really as successful as its fans said? Because like, if it was, why didn't they do more with it since release while they're scrambling to pump out more Cosmic Era stuff? GWitch had pretty good ratings, and generated a good social media response from women.But almost all kf GWitch merchandise and gunpla failed to sell. Outside of a few specific items, most of the GWitch product line was a failure. This is very bad in Bandai's eyes. GWitch also cost more to produce than your average Gundam series. The show had lots of effects and Cgi was required Sunrise to hire more staff and pull in extra support to make the deadline. Bandai also isn't ready to have full on lesbians making out onscreen like they do in the West. They wanted to keep the show relatively conservative and just tease the audience and leave it the rest to viewers imagination. Like older Hollywood movies from the 1950s to 1970s. When it just faces to black and it's implied a sex scene just happened but they don't show. And most kids will be clueless about the "fade to black". So no "Kira and Fllay" style sex scenes like they did for Gundam Seed. So basically good ratings + bad merch sales = no GWitch sequel anytime soon. Bandai is a toy company after all. The toys must sell.
Anyone interested in another show that continues into the further future of the UC past Gundam Victory?Been 30 years since Gundam Victory ended.I can only watch so much One Year War spinoffs.
>>22939035Do people not get tired of buying the kajillion different flavors of Zakus?
>>22939045You had G-Reco ten years ago.
>>22939056not uc
>>22939045That was supposed to be the end goal of the UC Next project, except that seems to have stalled before it could even get to late-UC let alone finally pass Victory
It would actually be funny if Bandai greenlighted the Frozen Teardrop anime because they see Seed as a success and Wing is always a success in terms of gunpla salesI think Katoki just said that he wants an anime adaptation of Frozen Teardrop before he shows the designs of the other mecha because he is just bullshitting, he never has any good idea of mech designs for FT, even Snow White was just Wing Zero with more wings
>>22939058Really should've stuck with A/Z.
>>22938993They were, but that’s not because the kids were new fans of Gundam, it’s because SEED still appeals to kidsAnd “just” I mean in the sense of “the only thing that happened is”, obviously it made more than “just enough money”
>>22938997I think that’s partially because Fukuda really wanted to do a prequel and was actively campaigning for it before the movie even came out, while Okouchi and Kobayashi’s reactions to the end of G-Witch were “oh thank god we can finally rest; maybe we’ll come back to it someday”. There’s an obvious staff enthusiasm gap there>>22939035The merch thing is crap and you know it, G-Witch sold great outside the Michaelis and a few grunts. (Though the part about it pulling resources from other projects is true, the production was a mess.) But the general idea was to use the series as a hook to get new people into Gundam, since ti did that successfully it doesn’t necessarily need continuation. It’ll probably get some kind of weird spinoff in a few years the way IBO did
>>22939053Zakus can only be so popular for so long thanks to boomers.Zaku sales aren't what they used to be since over a decade ago.Aging boomers with nostalgia can't support Bandai forever.Which is why they're trying to cater to a slightly different audience with G-Witch.Who knows, maybe Bandai would do some really degenerate like introducing Zakus into G-Witch like Seed did.
>>22939083>The merch thing is crap and you know itProve it. Everywhere I've read says gwitch sold poorly besides a few items.
>>22939113People have claimed that about literally every series for as long as I can remember
>>22939203>People have claimed that about literally every seriesNo they haven't. I can name several Gundam series that sold very well in terms of models: Gundam 0079, Zeta, CCA, 0083, Gundam Wing, Seed, Seed Destiny. ZZ Gundam, Victory Gundam, and Gundam X sold rather poorly. Gundam X sold so badly that they cancelled the show half way through. >for as long as I can rememberAh that explains it. Your memory is awful.
How do you people get used to the fugly humans Hirai draws, even in the best looking frames they look so weird compared to people drawn in damn near every other art style.
>>22939221If Hirai keep doing it that's because he's asked to do it and people love it. He can actually do very different design if asked.Japan just love the Hirai style
>>22939217Technically it wasn't halfway through, it was more like the final arc being rushed. I assume it would have had 10 episodes more maximum.Turn A also had extremely bad sales with the merch, and really bad rating too initially. The only reason it kept going for 50 episodes is because the channel director loved Tomino (and the original Turn A plan was 100 episodes)
>>22938912Bandai is probably trying to capitalize on the extremely massive fanbase while they're still around. And the fact too that they've finally given up trying to steer fans towards UC. Even Ogata begrudgingly implied SEED is now equal to UC as a core tentpole, even as he wants to still push more UC.
>>22938924Usually, but not always.- AGE is a perfect example of an unpopular series with equally poor gunpla sales. To a degree, X as well, though that's due to brand fatigue. In AGE's case though, Bandai saw enough of a drop in interest that they cancelled the AGE-FX MG, and some other planned kits, and quickly ended production of most other merchandise related to AGE to stem further losses.- SEED is a perfect example of the opposite, where it's extremely popular but gunpla didn't sell too well beyond a few specific models. SEED didn't push as much gunpla as Bandai wanted. Instead, the hottest sellers from SEED were all the non-gunpla merchandise, including audio CDs, Singles, figures, keychains, clothing, etc. But back then, Bandai didn't consider non-gunpla and non-DVD sales as a measure of success/failure, Bandai finally started including non-gunpla and non-DVD merchandise as part of the success/failure of a series, because that was earning as much as, if not more than, the Gunpla they were putting out at the time.
>>22938966Let's not forget that Freedom was the COMPLETION of a contract, rather than a new one. Freedom Zero is a NEW contract for a new animation. As far as other AUs go, Bandai already stated that they will go back and expand upon select, financially successful AUs.- SEED is an obvious one, being that they literally announced that after the one about Freedom breaking another major record.- IBO is getting a second chance to shine with the Urdr Hunt animation. Whether it earns money or not determines its fate for future revisits.- Mizushima is still optimistic that the delayed 00 sequel will enter production in time for the next anniversary. If that one goes well, it too will be considered.As for G Gundam, Wing, and X, Bandai said they're only going to do something minor for each of them.- G got a webnovel, that will later be published in book format, and a new and updated guidebook/pedia thing that is available for preorders.- Wing's anniversary is next year; we'll see if they will surprise us with a Frozen Teardrop announcement, or paid Katoki off to finally do a Snow White kit.- X's anniversary is in 2026, we'll see if we get another story following Garrod becoming a dad or if it'll be a short animation of the existing manga mini-sequel.Nothing else notably stands out. The Build-verse is already kind of developing into its own thing, Metaverse or not, so that's already a free pass.
>>22939514that's during SEED's first peak. Nowadays, because most characters are well-known and have their own fanbases, Things like the Lightning Buster and Blitz Duel are flying off shelves now too, alongside your Athrun, Shinn and Kira suits.
>>22939519>Bandai said they're only going to do something minor for each of them.Where did they say minor?
>>22938716Which just J stick out to me since in that game all the deaths from SEED stick except the Astray girls since they're a summon for Cagalli.
>>22939113Where are you reading? Everywhere I’ve read says the reverse, it sold well aside from a few shelfwarmers.
>>22939460Tomino was right. UC truly ended with CCA. UC Gundam is a "war story at its core" in Tomino's words. Anything that's not a war story will fail in UC. You can't built a franchise off of a Unicorn or Hathaway's Flash. Neither of them are war stories.Seed is the only big franchise in Gundam history that had allowed room for an expanded Universe. Each entry allowed for expansion.00 Gundam tried to do it, but failed since they concluded the story in such a firm way. There's no room to add a sequel. >>22939514>To a degree, X as well, though that's due to brand fatigue.No. X failed because the writing and characters. Fukuda himself said he couldn't get through watching Gundam X. He called it boring and said he turned it off. >SEED is a perfect example of the opposite, where it's extremely popular but gunpla didn't sell too well beyond a few specific modelsDude. Your facts are so wrong. Seed gunpla sold well. Only a few specific gunpla models had low sales like the Buster Gundam.There was internal drama between departments. The music division was outselling other departments. Seed and Seed Destiny music was so popular that everyone was buying the CDs. Even if they didn't buy the Gunpla, they loved the music.Apparently Bandai didn't like having to disclose at shareholder meetings that the music division was now #1 and outsold the Gunpla division (which is normally #1) . But for a few business quarters gunpla fell to #2. This made the Gunpla executives jealous.Typical office politics... >>22939519>Wing's anniversary is next year; we'll see if they will surprise us with a Frozen Teardrop announcement, or paid Katoki off to finally do a Snow White kit. They should just re-animate the thing with modern animation and give us Glory of Losers. No one wants Frozen Teardrop.>X's anniversary is in 2026Not happening. Probably a manga at most.>G got a webnovelThey already did a spiritual sequel. It's called Gunpla Fighters.
>>22939035>The film and TV series Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch From Mercury were noted to make the Gundam franchise reach record sales of 145.7 billion yen (about US$934.78 million) in the 2024 fiscal year.They're still making Robot Damashii and Figuarts G-Witch figures when they always pull the plug on anything that flops immediately so I don't know what shit you're smoking but lay off it senpai.
>>22939626>random quote with no source>doesn't specify what is making money. Gunpla? Music CDs? Clothing? Advertising? OK sure.
>>22939641I'm not here to spoonfeed you retard you can reverse search that quote and find several sources, G-Witch won and so did SEED deal with it UCuck.
>>22939641This is ironic coming from you
>>22939113"everywhere I've read", you haven't read that anywhere. You're just making shit up.
>>22939641NTAit's from wikipedia and the source is this article>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2024-05-12/mobile-suit-gundam-franchise-reaches-sales-record-of-145.7-billion-yen-in-2024-fiscal-year/.210738but the reports can be read here>https://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/ir/library/financialstatements.htmland in the FY2024.3 consolidated report pdf (May 9, 2024) can be checkedthe only mention of WFM
>>22939648>>22939626This is the ACTUAL quote. >Bandai Namco Holdings released on Thursday its financial report for the fiscal year of 2024 (which ended on March 31), and reported that the Mobile Suit Gundam franchise earned a total of 145.7 billion yen (about US$934.78 million) during the year, setting an all-time highest sales record for the franchiseThe dishonest idiot edited the quote. Which should be fucking OBVIOUS since "Gundam the Witch from Mercury" came out in 2022. Not 2024.Anyone with a brain would have noticed that. Fake news.
>>22939815see>>22939798Still coping and seething I see, you LOST anon.
>>22939815>Which should be fucking OBVIOUS since "Gundam the Witch from Mercury" came out in 2022. Not 2024.Awww the little retard doesn't understand how fiscal years work, go to bed champ you don't wanna sleep in for school tomorrow and remember to come back when you're 18.
>>22939641Anon quoted a Wikipedia article which is why he's avoiding saying his source. He was probably embarrassed he quoted Wikipedia directly instead of looking at the source articles. He knew you would point it out. The Wikipedia article links to an Anime News Network article. But the funny part is that Wikipedia mis-summarized the Anime News Network article which is based on a Japanese Bandai Namco financial report. The actual Bandai Namco financial report notes that GWitch is the first successful Gundam with young women (Not true BTW. The original 0079 Mobile suit Gundam was very popular with women). But the financial report doesnt actually say how much GWitch earned. Only that they are happy that they made an anime that appeals to young women. What the financial report does say is how much Gundam Seed is success and how much money the Seed franchise has earned for the company. It also mentions that Gundam Seed Freedom has earned the most money out of all Gundam movies ever made. So basically anon is 4 levels removed from actual information and lazily copy pasted Wikipedia directly.
>>22939832Keep coping kek
>>22939648You quoted Wikipedia. Not even the source article. That's really sloppy anon. Even for baiting.
>>22939832>The actual Bandai Namco financial report notes that GWitch is the first successful Gundam with young womenWhere? Because i ctrl+f "young women" and nothing came up.
Why does everyone look so bogged
are gwitch shitters still pissy that SEED Freedom came in and immediately stole their thunder with its announcement right after gwitch ended?
>>22939851yes
>>22939851I don't even like G-Witch I just think it's funny how much it makes you fags seethe. 40 more years of SEED please I don't need anything else.
>>22939846Lmao what are you a college professor? It's 2024 old man Wikipedia is fine to quote.
>>22939858Lmao. No one takes Wikipedia seriously anymore. It's only exists now for propaganda, and as an AI training tool.These days people just look for the source article. Or look at a TikTok video that discusses the source article. Entire YouTube and TikTok channels exist just to fact check info. They make a living pointing out misinformation. Vanilla Wikipedia is laughed at by YouTubers and Tiktokkers. They make fun of how badly biased Wikipedia is.
>>22939626No, they've gotten 3 or 4 SHF. Which, if you aren't familiar with modern SHF, is not actually a metric of success. In actuality, lines make a few prototypes upfront which make it ro release. But poorly performing lines struggle to get more, and some that do particularly poorly can have figures based on their prototype never get released.Only Kamen Rider and Dragon Ball get preferential treatment of regular releases because they are by far the biggest sellers of the brand.And at the recent Tamashii Nations show, the revealed more Seed Freedom SHF but no new Witch ones. Also don't think I saw any new Witch RD prototypes. But Zgok is getting a Metal Build among other Seed Freedom stuff.
>>22939879>Which, if you aren't familiar with modern SHF, is not actually a metric of success.I'm very familiar retard, they wouldn't have bothered releasing Guel or the Suletta recolor if they weren't successful.
>>22939879Guel SHF prototype was showed last year and the release is in December. But no new things, you are right. When they announced Suletta and Miorine GGG was later only released Suletta and Miorine disappeared from Megahouse site. In fact this summer when everyone excepted to see a Miorine prototype they showed Lacus and something else under the GGG label
>>22939878>They make a living pointing out misinformationNo, they make a living saying they're pointing out misinformation and that they're certainly correct and not biased at all. The idea that someone on a platform that is actively courting an algorithm for maximum views is going to try to be objective is exceptionally foolish. Wikipedia has plenty of issues (especially on anything political), but the people you're describing have far more and far more severe ones that directly impact their credibility.
>>22939890That's not entirely true. Plenty of unsuccessful lines get pity releases of prototypes. But then the line stops. I've got a number of such incomplete lines.But then where were more at TN this weekend? They just revealed a 2nd Lacus and more Seed Freedom.
>>22939530It probably also helps that Gunpla engineering has improved significantly. The unsaid issue with SEED's initial line is that most of them were shitty kits.
>>22939514Seed and G-Witch are great animes, but not a great mech show.I bet with a little bit of elbow grease the two shows could've been reworked into non-Gundam shows and it would still be great to watch.
>>22939951>G-Witch >greatBut it wasn't
>>22939460>>22939594>UC is a war story at it's coreIs it impossible to create a Gundam franchise with great mech action/setting AND great character drama?Are character dramas limiting to a franchise potential as opposed to focusing on mech action/setting?I felt like Seed had great character drama better than 0079 while it's mech action/setting was just slightly weaker than 0079.G-Witch also had great character drama but had terrible mech action/setting.
>>22939962Tomino said Gundam is a war and survival story at its core. The White Base crew was a family trying to survive in a crazy war torn world. Underneath the animation, it had a really deep message. Fukuda said Seed is a character drama first, and a mecha show second. Everything is about the characters and their growth. And the (admittedly cool) mecha action is in service of that. I have no freaking idea what the hell Unicorn is. I have no idea what Gundam NT is. Fukui wrote both of them. But I have no idea what he's trying to say. >G-WitchI have no clue what this show is trying to say. Tomino said that Gundam is war story. Without a war, it's not Gundam. A high school lesbian drama story might be appeal to women who love drama, but it's not a "Gundam" story.GWitch is basically Girlz Und Panzer except they swapped tanks with Gundams. And they changed the tone to be serious. Then added lesibian drama sprinkles. But I don't know what the message is here.
>>22939832Isn’t G-Witch the second to be popular with young women after SEED?
>>22939998No report mention young women. On the contrary since there are no young women, the merch reflect on that, so no trendy merch collab or anything that young girls like, not even family oriented brands. Only Tsutaya and 7-eleven were the two collab not tied to bandai, and the 7-eleven showed that young women preferred SEED more than WFM.
>>22939998>>22940015Gundam has always been popular with women though so it's weird to call Witch attention to Witch specifically for it.Original series, Wing, Seed, 00, all had sizable female fanbases.
>>22938959Do we count the play?
>>22939997>>22939962According to Yoshikazu Yasuhiko Gundam resonated with people because it's mostly about regular people going through a war(even if one is a pyschic or whatever he's still a regular guy) and that's why Zeta didn't resonate with people as much.
>>22940044gundam is a pretty old fandom in japan, 30 years old and above. not questioning that there might be women who likes WFM but "young" is debatable and im only talking in consideration japan, idgaf about other places, because merch/events/etc are aimed to people living there since it's more accessible and as much as bandai wants to expand oversea japan will always be their first market
>>22940059Bamcos been shouting from the rooftops that GWitch and Seed Freedom pulled in a lot of new fans. I don't see any demographic breakdowns in any of the press releases they have in english. But I'd assume that new demo skews much younger than the 30+ crowd people associate with the brand.
>>22940015There was an interview with Ogata when he mentioned that
>>22940054>and that's why Zeta didn't resonate with people as muchWhat if I'm excessively physically violent?
>>22940059>as much as bandai wants to expand oversea japan will always be their first marketThey'll eventually learn to change that soon enough
>>22940084i checked all the translated interview and doesn't mentioned that
>>22940059They keep trying to force UC everywhere. Why was the Netflix movie UC when UC isn't as popular as Wing, 00, IBO or even Seed overseas? Isn't the next movie supposed to be UC? They seem to be afraid to make material for anything other than UC, Build or now Seed.
>>22940054That's a minor reason. But more importantly, Zeta was a massive departure from what they did in 0079. -8 year time skip. -Everything in 0079 is now considered old. -Federation are the bad guys now. -Old white base crew is missing -Former Zeon and bad guys like Char are good guys now-Design language of the suits have changed. Everyside is using Zeon style suits.This must have been total whiplash for the original audience when Zeta first aired on TV in the 1980s. They were still trying to figure out wtf is going on.
>>22940099change? when mecha is even more niche than their place, where everything that is sold in hobby stores is imported so prices are inflated? really, the only good thing was gundam info with their youtube channel, but foreign fans doesn't participate in their economy, because the numbers are considerably inferior, they don't spend money in the same way as japanese.
>>22940101Then you didn’t look hard enough>>22940104Because UC sells kits. It hasn’t been a year and seed freedom stuff is already being outsold by the 28th iteration of grandpa, other shows can move product around when they’re airing but only UC is consistently popular
>>22940116I'm talking about the west where UC isn't the highest selling.
>>22940107Bamco just built a new production line for gunpla to address the scalping and global supply issue, and is rebalancing the entire Gundam brand to be more global. That's not even speculation, its them saying it.
I don't like Lunamaria as Shinn's love interest. She is a fucking slut. He's too good for this slut.
>>22940120UC anime doesn't really have mainstream appeal in the west but the gunpla is still very popular. Nu Gundam, Sazabi, Unicorn, Sinanju, Zaku II, RX-78 etc. are all incredibly popular even in the western Gunpla community with people who have not watched any UC anime.
>>22940163Cheating abortion sex with Luna
>>22940216Go to bed Amuro
Kek Fukuda is such a hack https://x.com/NxIxL_XVIII/status/1801230882046665145?t=zmnAsrlJHm-gg6Z6CT5k_A&s=19
>>22940044>Wingyaoi shippers perhaps.
>>22940209UC anime not being popular in the west might have something to do with Gundam Wing being the first show Americans are exposed to.And that the early UC shows 0079 - CCA are really old and therefore not as good looking as Gundam Wing.
>>22940240SEED has that too.>>22940257I think that's exactly what happened. Like I don't even think they aired all the episodes on Toonami and the finale only aired on New Year's Eve. Also, I think lots of people hated SD Gundam Force when it aired on Toonami.
>>22939547Bandai said Mini-Anniversaries are planned for G, Wing, and X in the same announcement. Likely because they didn't have anything big in mind, and they don't have time to put something bigger together, unless they use the mini-anniversary to announce a new project for the next anniversary 5 years later. So G got its webnovel, Wing will either get a teaser for a big project, or just some new kits, and X will probably get a new kit or short-story.
>>22940374Probably X will get another Mini manga sidestory or something. G is already getting that. For Wing who knows?
>>22939594Mate, you must be fucking blind then, because the only thing perpetually sold out in all the images /m/ of old was stealing from 2ch was the Strike, Freedom, and Justice. Even the Aegis warmed shelves more often alongside the Duel, Blitz, and Buster, but sold often enough to not get discounted as much as the other 3. Same goes for the Calamity, Raider, and Forbidden.
>>22940240Wasn't it the director himself who stated that Wing was saved by fujos? I distinctly recall one interview where the director admitted that Wing was saved entirely by fujos tuning in regularly, long enough for fans who finally moved on from G Gundam to start embracing Wing. It paralleled how Tomino stated that married women saved MSG, tuning in just to listen to Amuro and Char rather than because they cared about the story or the mecha action.>>22940382Personally, I'd rather we get Glory of Losers animated. Do away with most of Okawara's designs in favor of Katoki's, and with the better pacing of the manga than the original show.
>>22940374I don't think they used the word, "mini".
i want an anime remake that covers 0079 all the way to CCA.I want them to dial down the bullshit newtype powers that gets progressively worse each installment.
>>22940240well maybe they shouldn't make the main cast so damn fuckable.
>>22940373MSG was pulled from toonami because of 9/11
>>22940240Women are still women, especially given the context that Witch just went for yuri
>>22940240Did you see how big Bravern got? There's a market there
>>22938865Yes, and it's mostly for SEA monkeys.
>>22940430To think Wing is turning 30 next year.
>>22941580And Asia, and EU, and the rest of the world outside of the Wingbabby US
>>22941587France love both wings and SEED. It's only the UC that's more obscure (or at least was until recent years)
>>22941609Based Frenchies
>>22941609I wonder what France thinks of Grendizer U? Also, did they have to change the name to Goldorak U if it got dubbed over there?
>>22941615it already aired on TV here, dub with subtitle, it is indeed called Goldorak U.Really mixed opinions so far. Young people like it a bit more, but many original fans don't like it much.It's not the 2020 comic books which was a really big success for multiple years
A new Gundam? Is it directed by our Holy Father Yoshiyuki Tomino? No? Then I will not be watching it.
>>22941651What's the name for this flavor of autism, anons? Berniebergers syndrome?
>>22941651Tomino celebrated his final beauty with G reco.So go watch G reco.
>>22941651He hasn't done a good Gundam since Victory.
>>22941694*F91
>>22941694https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nul8CbIoRY
>>22941651Everything he made was shit except for 0079 (SEED is just a better version)
>>22941772SEED is an ambitionless, trite and myopic attempt at the plagiarization of Tomino's work sharing surface similarities in common with it but participating in none of the substance because the mime himself failed to understand the object of his imitation. Tomino's oeuvre deals with world historical themes, Fukuda's exclusively with the grossly political and sociological. It's pathetic. There's nothing in it for anyone interested in speculative fiction or film to meaningfully engage with
>>22941779What's the name for this flavor of autism, anons?
>>22941963Chatgpt?
>>22941694>VictoryI find it hard to believe that there are people here that actually like UC stuff past CCA.As far as I'm concerned, the UC era ended when Amuro and Char became one with the Force.
>>22941973This is strictly a LayznerSPT board
I don't care what the story is, but I am looking forward to it for the potential Dragonar references. Projects like these are the last chance the old guard of mecha animators will get to play around and stuff. We need to support more project like these than the Moeblob flavor-of-the-month animu
>>22942010I'm just happy they're making an HG Cavalier.
>>22942010that looks 10x more unique than 90% of mechs in the Gundam shows in the past 10 years.
>>22941973Some people are actually capable of putting pen to paper and producing something intelligible.
>>22940222Which Cyber Formula is that?
>>22943025Sin and Saga.
>>22940044WfM is only popular with men. Women left in droves after it was clear Suletta's het ships weren't going to happen
>>22943031Why? Because the girls are cute?
>>22943042It's gundam + moeshit
>>22943031Women are the biggest audience of yuri, not men.
>>22943056You still live in 2007. And the kind of yuri women like is very different from the kind of yuri men like. And WfM isn't yuri
>>22943057This. It was tumblr tier shipper bait. The real yuri degenerates jumped ship pretty early.
>>22943077So, like RWBY?
>>22943152i've seen all of about 8 minutes of that show, so I dunno, maybe?
>>22943233I thought the tumblrs jumped to Superwholock.
>>22943433>SuperwholockI thought that shit died after 2015
>>22939998no, g-witch failed at retaining a young fanbase, unlike what seed managed to 20 years ago.
>>22943604Then I have no idea what Tumblr jumped to post-Gamergate. I thought Tumblr died in 2018 when they banned porn.
>>22943822Gwitch still was considered a success with newer fans. It's even said so in official documents. It's just newer anime fans are not like before. They rarely focus on one show. There's so many anime production now compared to back then, with all available on streaming ,that they never stop, there's always a next one, always something more
>>22943935Women left in droves after the porn ban. Only trannies stayed. That's why Sulemio became the most popular tumblr pairing, surpassing Destiel
>>22944099>women left in droves after the porn ban>only women stayed?
>>22943935I think some people have started moving back in response to Twitter going to shit over the past few years.
>>22943935>Tumblr died in 2018 when they banned porn.Tumblr quickly unbanned porn when they realized the site traffic fell 90% aftet the ban. Now porn is just behind a NSFW filter than can be turned off in your settings.But Tumblr had already purged their archives before changing their mind. So what a shame. I have no idea what the Tumblr staff were thinking. That's like 12 years of porn history lost forever.
Why is 310 posts the bump limit? Why not 300 or 350?
>>22944102Trannies are not women. They're men who feel insecure about being losers, so they call themselves women to feel better about themselves.
>>22944528No they haven't. People will stay on Twitter because it's a monopoly that everybody uses to stay in touch. Any other options will result in Twitter botnets stealing their art and profiting off it.
>>22944741>Why is 310 posts the bump limit? Why not 300 or 350?base-6 numerical system
>>22936380>Luna's ass is visible through her thighsShinn is so lucky...
>>22936759I'm going to assume Freedom Zero is going to carry on the tradition of Yzak being the only character that doesn't act like he was written by a child
>>22948431It's because he has 1 minute of screentime at most.
>>22948375What?
Looks like spbot is going full coomer mode.
>>22949098*SpambotOr Duelrager, whichever name.
What would happen if Aquarion Logos were to erase these pics. Hmmmmmm.
Holy snap spambot stopped flooding! Now we know his kryptonite. If he goes crazy we will not call him Superman!
>>22949121I think he got scared of the lamias under his couch because they crave potatoes at every full moon.
I see. So Strike Freedom was in the process of being refit with new equipment after Seed Destiny. Including the Disruptor and Proud Defender pack. But it got stolen before the refit was complete. And Proud Defender had to be adapted to Rising Freedom.And Infinite Justice was changed to suit Ayhrun's preferences. He wanted even more agility and asked for back to be redesigned with less bulk and more beam sabers.
I wonder what the thread that pushes this one into the archive will be.
