Why does Sunrise refuse to give us animated late UC? There's a ton of content just waiting for kits and animation
Fear of it being a repetitive space vs Earth faction story.
>>22984579But then they go and make another "earth vs space" AU anyways
>>22984593It's true that they also fear straying from that formula. I don't know. Ask Sunrise. They probably don't know either.
>>22984575I guess because of how popular Zeon is.
>>22984799but late UC has Mars Zeon
>>22984575These all look the same
>>22984858that's because they're all variations of the F90
>>22984858they don't though>>22984866they're not though
>>22984898F90, F90II, Cluster are all F90 variants. F91 is the F90 V type perfected and streamlined, and silhouette and Neo are Anaheim knockoffs of the F91
>>22984575bandai has always been retarded>renewed push of late UC stories from manga.>make the kits PBandai instead of retail
>>22984575because many fans says what you say but also won't accept something that isn't "fed vs zeon".Though there is a few moves in a good direction with Hathaway being adapted and Twilight Axis being about Buch Concern.
>>22985078Technically while Zeta had Zeon, the Titans were the main antagonists for that series. That reminds me with how often sidestories include Zeon remnants, have Titans remnants ever been a thing?
>>22984945and the F90III is the F91 fixed and streamlined.
>>22985136Yes, this is what Advance of Zeta is about. The F90 manga also has AEUG remnants
Gaia Gear anime and gunpla would be incredible
>>22985252They would need heavy rewrites no matter if it adapt the novel or the audio drama.NotChar working with an actual white supremacist at the start would be impossible today lol
>>22984945>F90, F90II, Cluster are all F90 variantsthat much is true, yesBut F91 is still its own distinct MS, not a variant of F90. It's as much a variant of F90 as GP01 is a variant of RX-78-2.This goes double if not triple for the Silhouette series, yoinking SNRI data or not they're absolutely their own mobile suits.
>>22985319I kneel
We all agree that Rosemary is the greatest character in UC right?
>>22985252>Fantasy Gaia Gear animePeople say this constantly but they're saying it from a place of it being like an early 90s OVA, which is something that is long in the past.
>>22985337Absolutely, yes.
Posting the star of Late UC.
Because they're working their way forwards one series at a time, starting with Hathaway's Flash. Unicorn finally opened the door to UC Next 100, and they have plans to speed up production in the lead-up to the 50th.
>>22985358Pretty much this. It's kinda demented to go with this chronologically instead of with more variety but it's Bandai we're talking about.
>>22985358so what's next in line?
>>22985363Unicorn 2: The Re-Unicorning.
>>22985403How about Gundam Pegasus?
>>22985363F90 and thereabouts are covered via manga so mayhaps something around F91 or even Crossbone. We've been waiting long enough.Though there's still a big stretch of time between Hathaway and F90, even F90FF.
>>22985361I feel part of it is Bandai slowly rewriting works they choose to adapt to fit their core timeline narrative, so they don't want to have conflicting details as much as possible. It's great for consistency, but it's awful for production pacing. It's also the excuse they gave for HF's adaptation, rewriting bits and pieces of it to fit in with the anime canon.>>22985363They might squeeze something in between HF and F90, or just jump to F90 and adapt all of F90 into one coherent run. Then it depends on whether they choose to do F90 as a movie series, or as an animated series. Then they'll either revisit F91, or just skip it outright.Afterwards, they'll either do an OC story covering the period up to Victory, or actually animate Crossbone while rewriting it all. Moreso since Hasegawa already mentioned that if Crossbone was ever going to be animated, Bandai would probably rewrite and streamline it.The worst-case is Bandai choosing to do an OC instead of Crossbone; but they also prevented Hasegawa from really addressing what's going on around Earth, hence his focus mostly on/around Jupiter before slowly bringing it back to Earth in time for aligning things to fit Victory. Basically leaving open a giant period of time for Bandai to squeeze in a new Earth vs Colony war.
>>22985453They haven't done much or so far really any rewriting for Hathaway though, it didn't need any and odds are neither will other things.
>>22985453what would need rewriting from crossbone? Aside from the loli love interests which is easily fixed by aging them up a bit
>>22984579F91 and Crossbone are space vs space.
>>22985338I’d be fine with like an Aquarion/Nu macross style CG show for Gaia Gear
>>22985558Cosmo Babylonia is anti-earth, it's just they attack a colony first. Crossbone has every antagonidt trying to destroy the earth with increasingly wacky superweapons
>>22985558Not any more than ZZ
Is Dust translated? Ghost ending completely cucks you for the sake of sequel baiting, but it doesn't seem to be up on Mangadex
>>22985634Zeonic is working on it with the usual nonsense translations and paywalls. Team behind Ghost hasn't decided if they'll give it a proper translation yet.
>>22984575Because nobody cares. And I don't mean metaphorically or poetically or any other kind of fancy way. No one cares. Why do you think UC Engage turned the Victory event into a crossover with unicorn?
>>22985649Same reason CCA is a crossover with Z and ZZ. It's fun.
>>22985654CCA had its own proper recreation. What you are referring to is separate. The real answer is they have to tie late uc to something people actually like.
>>22985657No, you have no idea what you're talking about anon.
>>22985662Then why haven't they made a new late uc anime? Go on, I'll wait.
>>22985663maybe they're waiting for Tomino to die to avoid having to ask him for permission for everything.
>>22985663Same reason they haven't made a new early UC anime. That's the domain of AUs. Movies and OVAs can only come out so quickly.
>>22985657CCA had its own recreation as part of Charmuro mode. And since you're a blind, deaf pig, I'll inform you it's now having the aforementioned crossover with Zeta and ZZ. If Victory had no popularity it wouldn't have been included in the crossover in the first place. But that's too complicated for your smooth, rotten brain.
>>22985673So your admitting they have to add series people like instead of a straight victory gundam story. Thank you.
Some of the late UC designs are really goody but seeing them in action made them grow on me.
>>22986298People joke about his art but Hasegawa is a genuine master at dynamic drawings
>>22986499Yeah, his MS look simple which at first glance makes you think "this dude can't draw", but then you realize being simpler/less detailed lets him actually pose and deform thek however he wants to get cool scenes. With more complex MS artists often just teace over reference 3D models, but hadegawa actually draws them doing the wacky shit like an armless Crossbone swinging his sword around with the skirt clawsAlso sauce
>>22986502Exactly. They don't need extreme degree of mechanical detail, they have a sufficient amount to where other drawings and artist can fill in the blanks if people want that. But consistently drawing creative yet understandable action scenes is a much rarer yet underrated skill. It's the same approach as was the standard for mecha anime before 3d models became the standard - balance out details with practical limitations of animating them. OVAs with nutty budgets nonwithstanding.@DaisyDaiD2 on twitter, and since this is a Late UC thread in general
>>22986506How late into UC is g-savior anyways? Surely it's been "overwritten" by other entries by now?
>>22986512it's like UC 0220s I think, nothing has come out to make us think it's irrelevant but that's partly because nothing has come out to make us think about that period at all
>>22985458NTA, but I don't think they would rewrite much. At most, mostly redesigning the enemies and standardizing some of the designs in the name of kit production. IIRC, Hasegawa specifically mentioned his circus-themed designs as possibly being toned down or replaced entirely, and their respective fight scenes changed.
>>22986521Ballrider, fatman and stilts man could probably use a change. And of course "El Payaso de Jupiter" abomination that is the final Thoucus unit. But Desphys, Ballerina and Galahad are all pretty good designs that aren't TOO outlandish. The Zoid and six limb guy are weird but passable too. But they made TWO kits of the Dictus so who can say really
>>22986569Given the design it'd be stranger if they only made one Dictus kit to be fair
So, if you made your own story taking place in UC, what would it be about?
>>22986577Underwater bottom of the marianas trench level diving combat
>>22986577Something at the absolute fringes of colonized space, like a research station near Venus or in the asteroid belt.Small community made up of the scientists and their families, dependent on rare deliveries from Earth Sphere for most goods and materials.A small bandit group made up of Feddie and Zeon deserters shows up and tries to take them over, either to regroup before launching some glorious conquest plan (they're delusional) or before linking up with a larger group. A kid of one of the scientists finds an old prototype suit that was brought here for one reason or another and left to rot in a warehouse, hijinks ensue and the kid uses that Gundam to protect his home.Could be set at literally any time period from UC 0079 to UC 0153 and beyondpic unrelated
>>22986604Your pic worries me
>>22986604literally me
>>22986512Earliest G-Saviour related event is adoption of Freedom as the main MP mobile suit in UC 196.Latest pre-GS Late UC work is Crossbone Seerauber placed in UC 172.There's a good 24 years gap.
>>22986577AU where Scirocco wins and you have Char's Counterattack with Amuro + Char vs Scirocco and his chosen Queen piloting the Titania
>>22986772When does Dust take place?>SeerauberThat's the newest one right? Has it started yet?
>>22986796Isn't this just Walpurgis?
>>22986840DUST is set in UC 0169 and Seerauber in UC 0172. It was supposed to start in this month's Gundam Ace but it already went on hiatus due to Hasegawa's sudden illness.
>>22986848>illnesOh no. How old is he? All the good mecha artists are dropping like flies. Did he say what he's suffering from? Is he hospitalized or just feeling unwell?
>>22984579this is all i want though. even with aus i just want variations of earth vs space stories like wing or x.
>>22986848Wasn't the first chapter in the last month's Gundam Ace?I think I saw someone mention that a certain faggot translated it for his Patreon.
>>22986842Dunno because I haven't read it but maybe I need to now
Does anyone have the pics and names of the new Crossbones? Also, what the fuck is a Seerauber? sounds German
>>22987096literally german for pirate, yeahone sec and I'll get the pics and descriptions
Seerauber unit 1, Red RainPiloted by Karen, the oldest daughter. Focused on ranged combat but can use her whip if someone gets too close. Hasegawa originally thought about X-2 styled color scheme but decided it'd be too repetitive.
Seerauber unit 2, Blue WindAtari's unit, specialized for close quarters combat making it the closest to the original Crossbone formula, something of a main machine. Color scheme is tribute to Xabungle.
Seerauber unit 3, Silver SnowMomo's unit, first Crossbone to use funnels - six units mounted on the skirt armor. Momo is the youngest child and can't keep fighting for long. Units 1 and 3 are mostly Shibuya's ideas (Hasegawa's assistant), unit 2 is his own.Model numbers still TBD
>>22985409It'll be either that or Alicorn
>>22987108I'd assume they'd be X-14 through X-16I wonder if X20 will simply be called "XX"
>>22987114They could easily all be variants of X-13 cause, y'know.Jupiter's naming scheme seems to go for naming them by series rather than individual number for each unit. There are multiple X-14s, for example.
>>22987102Seems to have extra thrusters as well, I'd expect the melee unit to be the high mobility one. Weird to see machine cannons on the sides instead of the skull. I guess the extra pipes are for a bigger reactor to power the rifle? I'm certain that rifle has an extra gimmick. Also, where's the whip?>>22987105Sick, are the fins some sort of heat blade? definitely the most piratey of the bunch. Doesn't like it has machine cannons>>22987108This one's a wildcard. Wings almost look like the Cosmo Babylonia "feathers"(I forgot the name, same thing Vigna Ghina has). Chest figurehead seems to block the cockpit from opening unless it splits in half or moves to the side somehow. Head is also very non-SNRI
>>22987109Alicorn should come after Pegasus.
>>22987127The thrusters and pipes are standard for X-13 - the former derived from X-2 Kai and the latter a cost-cutting measure. Less sophisticated power transfer equipment to try and make it viable for mass production by Jupiter Republic. Still hasn't reached that stage though.>I'm certain that rifle has an extra gimmick. Also, where's the whip?I understand the rifle is the whip - you can see how it can separate with the lines on it.Worth noting that vulcans in the chest were only implemented with X-1 "Kai Kai" and weren't standard on previous units and iterations nor later models.>Blue Windprobably, or otherwise definitely melee weapons. We've seen cases of unheated metal still being very effective in the right hands. This is conjecture, but these also kinda look like they might come of or have another gimmick to them.>Silver SnowFin Nozzles. Crossbone's thruster binders are already based on that though so it's hard to say.Other than the crazy v-fin thing the head is quite normal. Well, relative to X-12.
>>22987147I haven't read Dust so I was a bit lost during X-11. Where did the X-11 and 12 come from? Isn't this thing just an X-11 they stole and added the tentacle thrusters to? And where does the X-13 come in? And what are units X-4 through 10?
>>22987154X-11 and from there are Jupiter Republic prototypes reproduced based on X-0's data and incorporating their own tech with the final goal of mass producing them. The numbering scheme has changed and starts with X-11 to set them apart. (Incidentally, X-3 was initially supposed to be X-4 as the unit now known as X-0 was the third of the lot).X-11 is focused on replicating the original design as closely as possibleX-12 is a redesign with much heavier Jovian influence including Phantom and Minovsky DriveX-13 is a further refinement and simplification of X-11X-14 was meant to be the final product combining the data of X-12 and X-13 and is suitable for mass production while achieving solid performance and with a lot of versatility in use and equipment but the production was delayed and frozen because things got... politically and economically difficult. I understand it did eventually get completed with the result being on par with the Zoloat from ~20 years ago (keep in mind, this is with a much worse technological situation so it's a very big success). I am a bit hazy on the details about this stuff though.By the way, since Jovians have a bit of history with the Crossbone Gundams, the faction that opposes Curtis and Bernadette and has the X-12 and X-14 calls them simply "Twelve" and "Fourteen".I'd post a pic of X-14 but, uh, I don't think there are any out there, not even fanart.Have the metal build X-1 with a mecha parrot instead.
>>22987168>including Phantom and Minovsky Drivewait really? The one in X-11 doesn't use either of those. Does the X-14 have them as well? Because that feels like it'd dumpster a Zoloat. In fact, isn't the X-0 full cloth said to be on par with a Zoloat? Does that mean the X-14 is a MP unit that fully matches X-0 full cloth? That's fairly impressive all things considered. But again, WoL, however faulty, seems like a BIG improvement, especially if they figured out the cooling issues. >Metal buildThe metal build crossboens are pure sex and I wish I could afford them. Is the parrot just an ornament?Also, I forgot to ask before, but do the Seeraubers(well, red and white) have brand markers and beam shields, or do they have the X-3 I-field emitters? It FEELS like the I-fields are stronger, but then again maybe they're more of a sidegrade that just introduces more cooling problems. Although, if they're using Phantom light, they should already be covered in I-fields to begin with. Actually, that sounds way too OP for a MP suit and definitely superior to a Zoloat
>>22987177>The one in X-11 doesn't use either of thosePhantom as in Phantom the mobile suit and its Minovsky Drive tech, I didn't explain it properly. Same thing though, really. On X-12 the minovsky drive is sorta functional, by which I mean performance is on par with Phantom and will run fine for about 15 minutes. But it needs extended maintenance to be able to use it again. The goal was performance on par with V2, for the record and that ain't it, chief. I believe it's more or less the same for X-14 but it can be replaced with other thrusters thanks to core fighter system.There's more to suit performance than just gimmicks like that too, it means overall specs and also practical usability and ease of piloting. On X-0 the comparison to Zoloat was about beam saber output in particular as a general benchmark of how technology has progressed and how Crossbone isn't a top dog. With X-14 it's plainly stated overall performance is around the same level as Zoloat. So broadly speaking it achieves similar results as X-0, yeah. When most people are bashing together decades old parts and beam weaponry is a luxury or a hassle, it's damn impressive.And on that topic I-Fields are a lot less handy when ballistics are the way to go. Especially when back on X-3 the cooling was too slow and even when alternating between them there was a 15 second gap with neither barrier working. By comparison, a beam shield has no overheating troubles though it's also not really standard equipment in this era. Either way I'm not sure what the Seeraubers have. Unit 1 sure looks like regular brand markers and Unit 3 sure looks like X-3's I-Fields, but it's just educated guesses for now.And the parrot is I believe a scouting drone derived from the one used by Ebirhu-S. I think X-11 or X-13 uses it down the line, but don't quote me on that.
>>22987191This is my personal opinion, but it feels like the Ghost Gundam (Meaning the silver Phantom) is superior to the V2. V2 only really has the WoL going for it, and also a big shield. Meanwhile Ghost has WoL with 75% of the output which is still faster than anything else in the setting, it's got full body I-fields, it's got weapons that can pierce through beam shields and beam sabers meaning up close it's literally unblockable,and if the I-fields didn't make it invulnerable enough it's got magic space dust paint that acts as both anti-beam coating AND anti-ballistics reactive armor. And it's got an assload of coolant cans. Since they're worth 15 minutes each, it can sustain Phantom Light for hours with a full belt. It even has beam ports for shooting in all directions like it's cosplaying a Psyco Gundam MkII, and the waist binder guns which.... exist. Really the only things V2 has over it are 25% higher WoL output and the big V-shaped WoL attack for drive-bys
>>22984806Absolute unit.
>>22987213Gotta hand it to (Mars) Zeon engineers. The full might of the Federation and Anaheim's Military industrial complexes spend insane amounts pf money and resources on new MS development programs. Meanwhile, random engineers in an isolated backwater swap out the guts on OYW suits and match their performance
>>22987561>Meanwhile, random engineers in an isolated backwater swap out the guts on OYW suits They don't. They only made convincing disguises around a new mobile suit, though even that is dropped by the time of Second Oldsmobile War, where all RF suits got new designs.>and match their performanceThey hold up against Jegans and Heavyguns, which are quite old by that point. Only Charles' custom RF Gelgoog is somewhat interesting performance wise.
>>22984575Because Late UC is humanity stability on decline.Lawless SpaceTyrants on a dying earth. NGO's going rouge and becomming terrorists, or the next Zeon. Non-Secular New Religion cults and political genocide.Generalized Human RegressionA literial sci-fi dark age.
>>22987960And that's a setting ripe for interesting stories. Too much order means nothing xhnages and the settinf becomes static and boring
>>22988136>And that's a setting ripe for interesting stories. Too much order means nothing xhnages and the settinf becomes static and boringInteresting, yes, but since the economy had been bad in Japan for 30 years, people are not interested in dark stories. If you want that kind of stories you need an economic boom.
>>22986577I would make the war between Earth Federation and Zeon conclude until 0179 and dubs it 100 Year War
>>22985319F97s (and F91) with F90 packs is a goldmine waiting to be exploited
>>22986506>Looks up artistOh no
>>22986577It'd be set around 75 years after Victory, in a solar system where humanity is on the decline. The Federation has long-since broken down entirely, replaced by a loose collection of nation states on Earth and across the various space colonies scattered around the solar system. The population of the species never recovered from the outrageous death toll of the One Year War, and their numbers are shrinking at an increasing rate.A rich private citizen in control of a group called the Anaheim Concern requisitions a space ship and hires a ragtag crew for it, assigning them a mission of traveling across the solar system and collecting artifacts he's learned of, with the intention of placing them in a pod and launching it from the same place the Voyager probe once departed the solar system, a monument to the Universal Century and a reminder that mankind is here, before they collapse back into the dark ages. And to protect them, they are given a single mobile suit: The RX-0079 Ray Gundam.The crew all have their own reasons to be there, from the listless blind captain who dreams of the glory of Zeon, a nation he never knew; the crochety old mechanic Mr. Tem who loves the Gundam like it was an old friend; the Mars-grown historian that resents the stagnating era she was born into; even the young stowaway boy who believes in the childish myth of the Newtype.But as they travel from world to world, relic to relic, and see the fading ghosts of humanity, contending with space pirates, would-be petty emperors, and the voices on the solar wind whispering to them secrets of the dead, they all come to understand the gravity of their mission: the message they send out to the universe will likely be the last words the species of man speaks to the cosmos. Will they speak of wars, and deaths, and struggles, or will they speak of the little miracles that kept them strong enough to endure?
>>22988337>The population of the species never recovered from the outrageous death toll of the One Year WarIt recovered around UC 0090s at the latest
>>22988337>Plays Mass Effect once>>22988346pretty sure anon is proposing an AU here
>>22988350>pretty sure anon is proposing an AU hereBack when I had the idea I was thinking about stuff like the Dark History, and thinking I don't really like the idea that every time a civilization ends it has to be this catastrophic horrific thing. I was thinking of what it'd look like for the species to fade more gradually, and even peacefully. A "the end of human civilization doesn't mean the end of humans" kind of deal.
>>22988139That is the most bullshit reason I've ever heard.
>>22988337god I hate doomers
>>22984575The real question is why don't they animate Crossbone already?It makes sense Kazuki Yao is retiring given his health, but this is literally the perfect opportunity for him to voice Grey Stoke.
>>22988442the thing about Bandai is that they're kinda stupid
>>22988442Grey Stork only shows up in some side stories we might not even see even if Crossbone itself gets animated
>>22988442>here lies Judau; he had a number of women going after him, but still never scored
Upon further investigation, I'm pretty sure the blades on Seerauber Blue are meant to be the same thing as Anchor's... well, Anchor. Either the same tech, or maybe even the tips of the thing. Apparently this thing is both a beam emitter and thruster unit. So we might see rocket-enhanced punches in the near future. Also, I used to think Anchor was shit but it's growing on me
>>22989221Would the size fit?
>>22993449It'd have to be just the tips. Anchor is already a huge(for the era) 18m ms, and the weapon is designed for a 40m MS so it looks huge on it too.
>>22984575>Side 3, Zeon>Side 4, Cosmo Babylonia>Side 2, Zanscare EmpireThe other four sides get their turns.
>>22993843Side 1 is just fed bases, and Side... 7? Is only like 1 colony, so 5 and 6 are the only real options
>>22987147>Well, relative to X-12.X-12 is derived from the Amakusa, that's why it looks weird
>>22993849Strangely enough the Amakusa eventually gets mass-produced by Jupiter and it's stated to be superior to the Crossbone, so these are downgrades
>>22993849it's also just Jovian tech in general
>>22993854Amakusa is also 18 meters tall
>>22987168I'm picturing X-14 resembling the Grampus and its white sister suit from Love And Piece where the blending of Jovian with Republic tech results in an appearance that's similar to Zanscare suits
>>22994220That's usually considered a disadvantage in late UC
>>22994945But they scale back up after Victory. The MS in G-Saviour are back to 18m average.
>>22994945correct
>>22985337>Minoru Suzuki
I'm surprised that sequel to Crossbone Gundam take place post Victory Gundam
>>22984575I want Late U.C set after G-Saviour or maybe a Gaia Gear adaptation. I'm not sure how I feel about Crossbone's "Mad Max" in space theme, especially after Dust.
>>22999271I'm surprised we haven't gotten anything animated post-Victory Gundam unless you count Turn A and G-Reco.
>>22999294I'm not surprised, shit didn't sell well
>>22984858This is exactly why they need to animate Frozen Teardrop.
>>22999301I think current AU projects in the works are the Urdr Hunt movie, Freedom Zero and the 00 project. GQuuuuuuX is alternate UC, so I'm not sure it counts.
>>22999300It still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth that the latest chronological U.C content we have is G-Saviour.
>>22999310It's not THAT bad.
>>22999380It's not good, either.
>>22999386I appreciate it for giving us some good mecha designs and side media, even if the main thing wasn't exactly good.
>>22999393I'll admit, the game was good.
Unicorn, Foundation, Mineva Zabi back againLaplace box unlocks, Banshee Norn, Scharnhorst BuchNT, Mafty, Frontier Side, Mobile Suits are downsizedZeon hiding out on Mars, Jupiter is even worseVictory, Militaire, invasion of the ZanscareGuillotine, crazy queen, Angel's Call, Shrike TeamManhunters rule through fear, Char clone pilots Gaia GearWhat the hell's a G-Saviour?I can't take it anymore!
>>22999413WE DIDN'T START THE FIREIT WAS ALWAYS BURNING SINCE THE WORLD'S BEEN TURNING
Don't Stop! Carry On!あきらめないDon't Stop! Shining' On!壊されない
love this motherfucker like you wouldn't believe
>>22999639Some kind of half-cloth X2 with a hat.. text says X-13... what exactly is this?
>>22999648New black Crossbone Gundam with hat for the latest Crossbone manga called love & piece. I don't know what the name of the black Crossbone is, but the X-13 refers to the previous manga where they developed a lower cost reproduction of the Crossbone X-0 created in UC0170, so this black Crossbone with the pirate hat might have been customized from an X-13 unit.
>>22999386It's better than everything made after it.
>>22995202In Dust and X-11 they reveal the Baroque line and Angel CallThe Baroque is basically a cyborg MS because it stores data in capsules of liquified human brain matterAngel Call is like the Gundam version of the black liquid from Prometheus It's assumed these are the impetuum for that return to larger sizes>>23000675Also like I said, there's the high likelihood that X-14 is based off the same platform as the Grampus
>>23001061>It's assumedby you and noone else yeah
i get the feeling /m/ is as brain damaged as the average anime watcher. go tribute to your kits, but don't ask for anime based on presumably shitty source materials. original allows for more freedom and creativity.nobody gives a shit about UC, lore, kits, etc... besides maybe pretentious /m/goers who pretend they do or autists who don't even watch anime begin with
it's troll hours huh
>>23001074Crossbone has no kits for its new suits or enemy suits (even Phantom is now considered an old suit) and you sound like you're doing a press release
>>22994945The first Amakusa was piloted by Amuro, in a way. So the size wasn't that much of a detriment.
>>23001061Doesn't every last bit og Angel Call get destroyed in Ghost? And a simple spacesuit can stop it so I doubt "thicker MS" are the answer
>>22999869i thought it would have been cool if the LM had salvaged the remains of the Shokew from the earth base after Zansacre had extracted all the useful data from it.
the size difference will never not be hilarious
>>23003702Quin Mantha's a big gal to begin with.Like, Psyco Gundam big
>Ah>If I fortuitously meet you once again>Passing through the Möbius's Universe >Beyond the time>Captain....
>AND I THOUGHT, SOMEDAY I'LL OBTAIN THE POWER OF THIS GUNDAM!(Because if I do, I might be able to go where Captain Amuro went)>THIS IS THE GUNDAM! THE POWER OF THE DEVIL!(That devoured Captain's life...)
Only seen F91 and Victory, never seen or read anything else that exists in late UC. What should I look up?
>>23004821Decide for yourself.
>>23004821F90, Crossbone and F90FF are the big ones
>>23004866I ask because I don't know what's out there aside from Crossbone. I know F90 exists as a story but I don't know what it is beyond a gunpla line, I assume it's a manga.
>>22985341Still disappointed that Rightstuf never released G-Saviour nor SD Force on blurays before the shitty Crunchy Roll purchase.
>>23004821You can go the Crossbone route or the F90 route. Crossbone is a direct sequel to F91 and goes Crossbone>Skull Heart>Steel 7>Ghost with some 1shot manga scattered in between. F90 is a bit weird because there's a bunch of old mnaga like F90 and Silhouette that lead into F90FF and then the current Cluster
>>23006855What a cute art style, surely the rest of their work is just as cute and innocent
>>23007489Oh shit, is it out?>DIscount Le Creuset>Already has a sex slavethat was fast
new F90 Cluster chapter is out, I'm told it features F90 unit 1. Which is interesting - in the original manga it does the last shooting pose with all the traditional damage, but the next time we see it the unit is even more damaged so it makes sense SOMETHING happened.Also monthly mobile machine confirms RF suits used TR Plan tech
>>23008382And the early model RF Zaku has Borjanon-like proportions
>>23008394Right looks so much better, holy shit?
>>23008382Is it translated?>>23008394Left looks a lot better. I can't stand that weird oblong shoulder pad on the right one
>>23007489>>23007558they getting freaky
>>23008394it... it all makes sense now. This is where they came from. That's why they're not quite right for classic Zakus. Oh my god, I love you Monthly Mobile Machine.
>>22984575Because Tomino himself said F91 and beyond was a failure.And the suit designs are so foreign compared to what came before that stuff like Victory and Crossbone might as well be their own AU. So fans don't really like it.Maybe it's better off being an AU since it won't be held down by past history.
>>23009273Is this seerauber? Why is it translated before DUST?
>>23009475Someone (you know who) got commisioned to translate it at least for a few chapters.Why? Probably not to get too far behind.X-11 and Love & Piece were also being translated, I think, and you can find recent one-shots on Mangadex.
>>23009419>And the suit designs are so foreign compared to what came before that stuff like Victory and Crossbone might as well be their own AU. So fans don't really like it.Late UC suffers from the opposite problem; Sunrise wants to make AU shows for each generation so they can go sicko mode with the designs and so that the audience don't have to watch what came before, but Late UC stuff is too much like older UC, just smaller, and is thus bound by the tech and doctrine of the era, so they can't go nuts, and there's no Zeon proper outside of Mars, so they can't bank on Zeon kits selling, either.tl;dr Sunrise wants to be hardcore but Late UC won't let them, so they don't bother with it outside of mangas and tie-ins with previous entries.
>>22985458>Aside from the loli love interests which is easily fixed by aging them upKill yourself
https://mangadex.org/chapter/54b103e0-3313-447a-ac41-465593cffafb
>>23010443>bred piratesyeah
>>23010443Well, we've got confirmation that they're X-13 units and the whip rifle. All three are some sort of newtype, the youngest one uses funnels, the sniper gets flashes and the CQB one is a cyber NT that can jack into her MS. As for the arm, no clue of what the fuck this is from. It's golden, but it's not the Midas or the Hyaku Shiki. Haven't read Dust so I don't know if it's something from there. Shoulder armor looks familiar, almost like SEED MS. Any guesses?
>>23010454Cap'n says they are his daughters, but looking at them I wouldn't blame him.
>>23010515Chapter literally shows him "adopting" them, they're not his blood daughters also if he's 30 the agea don't work out unless the oldest one is like 12
>>23010518I get that it is NBR, but it still is frowned upon.
>>23010537Japan has different cultural family values
>>23010505Blitz Gundam is the closest
>>23010505Gundam Exodia
>>23010780Akatsuki is pretty close and gold too. I wonder if the plot is going to be about assembling the parts of this Exodia MS? It's a cool-looking atm at the very least. That forearm attachment is either a beam shield or a little grabby claw that shoots out. Or, knowing Hasegawa, both.
>>23010786What if it generated a blade like a huge arm-mounted beam katar?
>>23012918Possibly, but the grabby claw bit has to be there for a reason
>>22984575>Bergh Squelettewhy are they like this
>>23016665Does Y show up in some side manga or games? The newest F90 manga is named after it but it only gets like 1 panel so far
>>23016885It's originally from SF91 Ghost of Formula one-shot, but it's barely there too.
>>22984575probably because F91, Victory, and G-Savior all massively underperformed back in the day so Bandai doesn't really want to risk it again, closest we've gotten since is G-Reco and Turn-A both being set much further in the future of UC
>>22985252What an awkward design
>>23016665Ngl...Legit jealous of this dude.I have the modeling skill AND funds to do exactly this with the F90 family as well as the inclination to do so...just not the free time or willingness to go through the P-Bandai rabbit hole.
>>23017408It's honestly too western for a series set in the Gundam universe
>>23016665Buying potentially 26 variants of the same damn kit with minor changes. Paying P-Bandai scam prices to boot. You got scammed, I am so sorry for your future children.
>>22986577I've been kicking around an idea for a post V fanfic for years, fueled by the idea of how weird it is that weird shit keeps happening in space but we never see another Earth supremacist group rise up after the Titans.So two or three years after the end of Victory, Federation elections lead to the rise of a political party who works to kick all of the colonies off of the Federation and leave the spacenoids to their own devices. After Zeon, Cosmo Babylonia, and Zanscare, you know what? Fuck the spacenoids, they've done more than enough damage to Earth, give them the freedom they all want so much and don't let any of them ever come down to the surface again. And that leads to war again the Earth Sphere between Earthnoids for and against this policy, and Spacenoids who are for and against union.
>>23019862Manhunters?Honestly, I don't think that there's enough weird shit happening in space until Victory to justify such a hardliner approach.
>>23019767How?
https://zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=12109
>>23019862They're called League Militaire. Underground guerrila group who wants spacenoids to go and stay go. Also a ton of their members have links to shady groups in the past.
>>23021277>led by a spacenoid that sent his son to be an illegal immigrant>inspired by partisan groupsDoesn't really check out.
>>23021387Most of the Titans were spacenoids. Half the EARTH federation forces joined the ANTI EARTH union group. Ideologies are flexible like that
>>23021408>Most of the Titans were spacenoids.No.
>>23021408No, they made a big deal out of how Kamille could have been a good Titans officer if only he hadn't been born in space. And IIRC there was some resentment about Scirocco being made an exception to the rule and allowed into the organization. I don't believe there were any other confired spacenoids in the Titans besides him.
>>23021408You're placing the emphasis on the wrong part there, a mistake which took me like 15 years to notice. They not the "Anti Earth" Union Group, they're the Anti "Earth Union" Group, as in anti the united Earth government, the Federation
>>23021409>>23021412At the very least, some characters from the mamga are. I think it was the guy from the AoZ manga? They get worse treatment due to being spacenoids but they're still Titans.And besides, the Titans, the group formed specifically to mop up Zeon remnants, were scrambling to ally themselves with Axis by the end of Gryps
>>23021423>I think it was the guy from the AoZ manga? They get worse treatment due to being spacenoids but they're still Titans.The MC is, yeah, and the story makes a point out of him being treated as a second-class member because he's a spacenoid. That's why he's shuttered off to a test team and left to handle dangerous, unreliable equipment in live combat. The team includes other semi-undesirables like a half-asian man, a woman and a veteran who knew a little too much about the events of 0083.
>>23019862The closest we get to that is Uso screaming spacenoids belong in space or something along those lines. I think it would of been nice if the Gauland(Alexandia-Heavy Crusier) had lived longer.
>>22984579It's time to introduce aliens into UC. If not, then just make it a far future where human factions are all hating on each other, so we get some cool shit like space fleets vs space fleets, and all battles take place in deep space.
>>23021803monkey's paw, aliens were introduced to UC via hasegawahttps://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Angel_Call
https://mangadex.org/chapter/16d05536-a4de-4c17-9fed-fd0052290991/2Cluster chapter 6
>>23022913Kinda strange that the not!Char is piloting a worse MS than the mercenary team, but I guess he's not meant to involve himself in the fighting much.
>>23021918And what did he do? Copy Prometheus
>>23021213NTA, but I see it. The GG story and even mecha designs have a distinctly retro sci fi vibe like something from one of those 70s/80s pulp novels.
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>>22984575Late UC like F91 and Victory with might as well be AU so it makes more sense to introduce new settings while bloating the popular Zeon era.
>>23029978No.
>>23021218I'm glad this stuff is available because it sheds the most light on G-Saviour's production and it confirms certain things I've thought for years (namely their approach was to make something newcomers could watch and the philosophy behind the designs).
>>22986506Which gundam is that on the right? It looks like the base for Build Burning.>>22986577Grunts doing grunt things. Either that or something that plasters my dick all over Turn A to spite Tomino.
>>23031808Well i was going to answer but you don't deserve it now.
>>23031813I'll be true to myself and you'll be true to yourself.
>>23031808>>23031813Asaka! Don't be rude.Tell him about "the G-Third".
>>22986577I'd let Hasegawa do his stuff. Hell, I'd let him put his loli hentai if it's a crossbone spinoff.
>>23031831Thanks. Yeah, I do see a resemblance between it and Build Burning but it is more faint than I thought.
>>22984575They did for the only late UC that matters
>>22984575Because F91 flopped really bad and you know how first impressions last so they dont want to repeat the same mistake
personally, Im tired of crossbones. I think the whole pirate gimmick is played out.
>>23032149They pushed F91 so hard at the time too, if you look at all of the tie-in Famicom and Super Famicom games that were coming out at the time, F91 was featured in all of them (you recruit a whole bunch of "Formula" family characters in the third Knight Gundam Monogatari game).
>>23031831HG when Bandai. G3-Saviour is too good of a design
I want to make a Thousand Custom/Phantom Gundam emblem for a project, any ideas?Something on the format of the Crossbone Gundam emblem.
