He's as much of a victim as Kamille, in the greater scheme of things.
Womp wompShouldn't have been rude
>>22985473He wasn't even really that rude.
>>22985484He killed Kamille's mother. While initially horrified and confused at the situation and his actions, when he came face to face with Kamille he made fun of him.
Jerid was the one constantly chasing Kamille and engaging him in combat. Kamille barely ever went after him unless Jerid provoked him and tried several times to defuse the situation but Jerid was too retarded to listen.
>>22985398Mouar died believing Jerid was "the only one who can lead humanity down the right path".I think Mouar may have been stupid.
>>22985515Mouar dies in the exact same way as Four.Both even have blue hair.>>22985497>>22985503Jerid probably would have ended up better if the only good people in his life didn't died, all he had left were bastards mocking him and using him.By the end, he doesn't really fight for the Titan, he just is fighting to avenge all the people he lost.Kamille would have being the same without the support he got at the AEUG.
>>22985497Jerid made fun of Kamille because Jerid is an awkward loser who thought the best way to help Kamille get over his mother's death was to channel all his emotions into hating the man who killed her, Jerid.
>>22985640Jerid made fun of Kamille because she has a dumb name.
>>22985643Anon... I was referring to when Jerid mocked Kamille after Jerid killed Kamille's mom.
>>22985398Of course. Jerid gave it his all for the sake of the cause he believed in. After all...Agent Messa is one of AEUG's greatest assets.
>>22985650Yes. So was I. Kamille's name didn't change in that time, did it?
>>22985640Headcanon. He was a sadist who derived pleasure from humiliating others, and got angry and obsessive when someone got one over him.
>>22986028At this point I'm honestly no sure, he genuinely is horrified at first when he realize he killed Kamille's mother and only becomes cocky when talking back to Kamille.I'm pretty sure the point of Jerid is that there was probably a good man deep inside but he's swallowed by the mindset of the Titan with strength. Just like how Kamille became a better person thanks to the influence of the AEUG, Jerid became worst due to the influence of the Titan.It's why Kamille cry when he kills him. It was a needless death. He didn't consider Jerid evil like Haman or Sirocco.
like in most Tomino shows, I rooted for the rival character and Jerid was no exception. That's because most of his MCs are insufferable whiny bitches, especially the gundam ones
>>22986028Jerid was a bully sure but at that pointvof the show he wasn't a genocidal sadist.
Jerid is in many ways a parody of the chad compared to Kamille's virgin, but Kamille was defined by his own autism while Jerid was defined by his "rivalry" against Kamille
>>22985398Jerid's problem is that he keeps doubling down. Kamille never likes Jerid but he pretty quickly realizes there's greater concerns and only thinks about Jerid when the latter is trying to kill him, whereas Jerid goes out of his way to get his girlfriends killed by antagonizing the girlfriend killer at every opportunity. Jerid is too stubborn and egotistical to accept his own flaws and it's this inability to reflect that leads to his demise. Same as a lot of Zeta characters.
Jerid deserved everything that happened to him.
>>22985398should have check his privilege and not misgender xirtranny Kamille
>>22986158>>22986212He's basically the 'I feel bad for you' v 'I don't think about you at all' thing in character form. Kamille has a luxurious penthouse rent-free in Jerid's head and Jerid barely registers on Kamille's own radar.
>>22986154He was a Titan
>>22986427Yeah and the Titans weren't genocidal at that point. Otherwise, you are saying Emna Sheen is also a genocidal sadist.
>>22986616Neither of those is correct, actually. He thought he cooked
>>22986681What do you mean, anon? Emma was a part of the Titans up until after Kamille's mother died.
>>22985398Don't start shit, there won't be shit.
Not fucking really.
>>22985398He is Kamille if Kamille didn't move on from his empty anger. He's a brilliant character really because he had the same capacity to grow as Kamille he just can't because he keeps losing all of the steadying influences that Kamille has with the AEUG.
>>22985398nobody forced him to join the Titans or to stay with them after seeing how they did things
>>22985398>He's as much of a victim as KamilleNeither are victims in any way. They both acted rashly and VOLUNTEERED.
>>22987072>didn't move on from his empty angerJerid's anger is a result of his loyalty to his friends and comrades, which is something Kamille lacked until the very end. Jerid's anger is his one noble trait.
>>22987081desu not wanting Zeon to return would be good enough, not everyone in the Titan were bastard like Bask
>>22987162It's empty because he wants revenge which won't accomplish anything. Kamille's anger is indignation to stop the fighting entirely. He never gets as angry toward Jerid as he does Yazan or Haman or Scirocco
>>22987164>not everyone was bad, just literally everyone involved with making the decisions
>>22985398>Tit anz is all about power!>says the weakest Tit an
>>22989600Zeon as an ideology caused multple mass-murders. Titans were trying to prevent another attempt at causing an extinction level disaster against Earth.
>>22987081This. Nobody forced Jerid to gas colonies. The story even makes it point that Jerid wasn't going to get punished for not taking the misson. Yazan literally refused to take part of the misson and still allowed to be part of the Titans.Say what you want about Rerccoa, but she didn't really have a choice to gas the colonies. If she refused, Bask would've evicted her into Space.
>>22999485Reccoa shouldn't have defected to Titans to begin with, but the root of her problem is neither here or there.
>>22986280Jerid would have been less of a joke if everytime we see him, he is doing something beyond seething about Kamille or doesn't go back to seething about Kamille in the end.Char, for all his rivalry and love-hate relationship with Amuro in 0079, had something else going for him beyond Amuro
>>22986255He can’t help being sexy with Ch… Quattro, goddamn sexy Quattro
>>22985515Mouar is usually smart. Completely dropped the ball in this instance.
>>22999681I disagree because we see him trying to do his own things. We see his interactions with other Titans and we get a clear understanding of what a Kamilleless Jerid would be like. A joke. Jerid only seethes about Kamille when he sees him or in the later half of the show.
>>22999485The real funny thing about this is that Yazan takes up Reccoa's role in the novels at that point as Reccoa was essentially written out of the story.
>>22994795And that's why they colluded with haman. good idea, yeah.
>>22987162>his loyalty to his friends and comrades, which is something Kamille lacked until the very end.Emma? Katz? Fa? Fourth Vagina?Just because he had newtype brainsex with the enemy (which is out of his control) doesn't mean he wasnt loyal
>>22987162what the fuck are you on about
>>23000185Yazan was simping for Paptimus?
>>22987162Jeridcels will believe anything except that he's a petty bully who got what he deserved.
>>22985653nta but you're really immature, you obviously made a mistake but can't own up to it
>>22987162>anger >noble traitWow I thought chunnis died out a decade ago
There are 2 moments that stand out for Jerid:He almost killed Haman. And that time when Quattro pwned his ass in a mobile suit fight. Besides that, Jerid is just one of those meat-headed jocks who can dish it but can't take it. Kamille just brushed him off in the final episode effortlessly and the blonde bastard got his ass blown to pieces comically. If anything, Yazan is someone Jerid WISHES he was. At least the Zeta version. I hated ZZ the moment I saw what they did to Yaman.
>>23003570Yazan's first fight against Judau is understandable as he was piloting a low quality junker mech. However, from then on Yazan basically became an incompetent jobber who was worse thean fucking Jerid himself. What is it with ZZ and shitting on the Zeta cast?
>>22985398>the small dick energy douche bag is a victim
>>23003894The studio wanted a new cast for toy sales, so the crew on ZZ felt like they had to clear them out ASAP. A shame really, lot of potential with Kamille showing Judau the ropes imho.
>>23003921Is that a Berserk reference?
>>23002428Shut the fuck up...
>>22985398nah, he was a retard.
>>23009525
>>23009525>>23009527Jerid has always been a careerist. No surprise he is the same in this iteration.
>>22986092When did Jerid find out that he killed Kamille's mom? I thought he never found out.
>>23011233Not only does Jerid find out, he doubles down and shits on Kamille for being a baby about the whole "mom got held hostage and I killed her" thing.Kamille hits him back with a smug "it's okay, I know you're just a nobody with the excuse that you were just following orders" and "you're a shit soldier since I was already able to beat you"
>>23011304Jesus how do you kill someone's mom and still get owned by said person
>>23011345Jerid's very good at failing.
>>23011304It's no wonder that Emma defected when faced with the potential of coworkers like that for the rest of the insurgency.Also pretty amusing how immediately and succinctly Kamille is able to identify shitty power structures as his real enemy while Jerid is just going to seethe for the rest of the show.
>>23011348Jerid comes from a military family, he was pozzed at birth.
>>23011304It's also telling that while Jerid regards Kamille as a threat and rival for the series, Kamille generally seems to be kinda blase about the whole thing. Even though Jerid kills Four, Kamille doesn't swear revenge on Jerid or anything like that. He definitely grieves for Four, but Kamille just never saw Jerid as a rival but more like a nuisance instead.
>>22985515>Mouar died believing Jerid was "the only one who can lead humanity down the right path".I still don't understand this. What the hell did she even mean?
>>23011388>Even though Jerid kills Four, Kamille doesn't swear revenge on Jerid or anything like that. He definitely grieves for Four, but Kamille just never saw Jerid as a rival but more like a nuisance instead.Four was beyond saving and her death was a mercy-killing, Kamille quietly accepted that. Same with Rosamia.
>>23011421she wanted him to rule humanity and tell it what to do
kamille may have killed three of jerid's girlfriends, but jerid killed four.
>>23011304>Kamille hits him back with a smug "it's okay, I know you're just a nobody with the excuse that you were just following orders" and "you're a shit soldier since I was already able to beat you"Based
>>23011348Autistic people can be deceptively insightful
>>23011388Lol. First time Char ever fights Jerid and Jerid almost gets murked instantly.>It's also telling that while Jerid regards Kamille as a threat and rival for the series, Kamille generally seems to be kinda blase about the whole thing.That's what I like about the whole rivalry. It was largely a one sided rivalry, but far more vicious version of Amuro and Char rivalry. Jerid anti climatic death was incredibly fitting despite how vicious it was.
>>23011566Kek.
>>23011304>>23011348>first thing we see Kamille do is cut school and go punch a fascist>then continues absolutely dunking on that fascist bullyboy with easeKING-mille.
>>23009525>>23009527What a simp.
>>23009525>>23009527god i hate zeta define
>>23011388classic Jobberid
>>23011304Jobid hard
>>22985398
>>23011566He almost ended up killing Fa but Apolly took the shot instead
>>23027430>kamille is mid trauma breakdown>jerid still gets his ass handed to him
>>23028763To be the devil advocate, Jerid probably was also having a breakdown at this moment, he just hides it better (until his last words)The entirety of Zeta from Jerid's pov would be a curious show.
>>23027430I love this scene. Jerid calls out Kamille on his hypocrisy. Kamille goes around and act like he's a saint, but he has the highest body count in the series. I wished Zeta Gundam explored Kamille internal conflict more.
>>23028805Zeta from Jerid's perspective would be fun. It would be him bottling his frustrations with Kamille, the Titans and himself under a cool guy facade. It would also be him seeking people to help him improve but they either end up dead or encouraging his worse tendencies. It would end on him being a bitter man, confused about why he's even fighting. Only spurred on by his one sided rivalry.
>>23028900Jerid is also an hypocrite here, though I don't even know if he believes his wordshis final attack really was him lashing at Kamille because it's the only thing he thought he could do.Jerid is just a pathetic man who lost everything due to a mix of bad luck and his own actions and inability to change.
>>23028900>Kamille goes around and act like he's a saintHe hates what he has to do though
>>23028900Imagine how fucked in the head you have to be to write damage control for a fascist bullyboy like Jobberid.
>>22999776Is that...Bajeena? Lieutenant Quatro Bajeena? Imagine...4...
>>22985398Is this dumbass the biggest loser in Zeta?
>>23032977I think this title belongs to Katz.
>>23034057Bah he is a child, cut him a break.
>>23034078Old enough to hold a gun, old enough to take responsiblity for his fuck ups
