Why did none of you nerds tell me how good SDF Macross was? This show met so much of my criteria for character drama and romance and love triangles, and yet none of that came up the dozens of times I asked for more anime soap like Star Vs or Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry!
>>23006983We told you. Now watch DYRL, then Plus, then 7, then Zero, then Frontier, then the Frontier movies, then Delta, then the Delta movies
>>23006983>This show met so much of my criteria for character drama and romance and love trianglesProbably because most of us do not have your low standards
>>23006983>This show met so much of my criteria for character drama and romance and love trianglesDamn you sound gay. Get a girlfriend.
>>23006983>Why did nobody tell me about one of the most famous and acclaimed series of all time.
>>23007246All I ever heard about it was that it had a whole bunch of magic singing in it.
>>23007331A lot of it's regular singing.
>>23007375I'm guessing it's all magic after DYRL?
>>23006983>This show met so much of my criteria for character drama and romance and love trianglesThat's truly depressing.Hikaru's an idiot, Minmay's a retard and Misa's a bitch.
>>23007331>magic singingWhat is this, Lord of the Rings?
>>23007531None of it is magical, except for MAYBE Macross 7. Singing mainly functions as a morale boost for pilots, and it also activates Protoculture technology for reasons that will be explained in Frontier and Delta (Midichlorians). So when they build their planes out of protoculture tech, the singing girl makes it fly faster. Plus has the least magical singing, and 7 is almost a super robot show and singing is soul power
>>23007547Frontiers making it such a serious part of the action made me facepalm.
>>23006983OP you sound like you might have good taste. as somehow who has finished all Macross last year, i say skip all of them but Frontier. it has the same criterias you just listed and the most worthwhile Macross in the franchise.I didn't like Delta at all, but that one might fit your criteria too.dont bother with Macross 7, etc. they are meme shows, circlejerked by meme people who want to feel special bc they enjoy the "shitty shows"
>>23006983>why did no one tell me this beloved classic loved by everyone was actually....good?
>>23006983Macross is consistently good from SDF to Zero. After that it's pure crap sustained by waifu faggotry and shipping faggotry
>>23007547>Singing mainly functions as a morale boost for pilotsLeave it to americans to miss the point of a show that bashes your head with its message.
>>23007933I wouldn't go that far. Frontier had some good bits.
>>23007933>waifu faggotry and shipping faggotryAlways has been.
>>23007947Nah, it's bad. It derails the franchise into pure idolshit>but macross was always idolshitThe first show was idolshit and it was original for its time. Seven was J-rock, Plus was futuristic techno, Zero was pseudo new age. Macross went full idolshit with Frontier
>>23007956Retard.
>>23007970>not uYou got me there. Anyway, Macross was supposed to be a collaborative effort between Kawamori, Itano and Mikimoto. Zero was the last one with those 3 names. I don't know about Mikimoto but Itano has been openly critical toward Frontier
>>23007977Macross is a franchise, it can be whatever the fuck it wants no matter how much you bitch and moan about it.
>>23007980I just want it to be good. Is that too much to ask?
>>23007988What isn't good about it?
>>23006983Sorry you couldn't hear us over all the Gundam dicksucking.
>>23006990What's the best of them so I know which one to get the most offended over?
>>23006983>zoomertard discovers old kino thread #4874
>>23010797Please don't call me names.
>>23007701Angel Voice is the best song in the entire franchise
>>23007941rent free
>>23006983OG Macross TV series hits me so hard in the feels it's hard to watch lol. Especially that scene when Misa slips Hikaru a love note...
>>23010797Fuck off tourist.
>>23006990Do I watch Macross II? That seems to be the next Macross thing in production order.
>>23017484sure it's pretty good on it's own but it's a separate continuity
>>23006983>Why did none of you nerds tell me how good SDF Macross was? Because that's... Fucking common knowledge? Just start a thread normally next time
>>23017484Sure, just keep in mind that it was treated as the unofficial redheaded stepchild of the franchise before Kawamori finally deigned to bless it with alternate continuity status a short while back.
>>23017484why don't you just watch whatever the fuck you want?
>>23017494Cause I'm kinda paralyzed with indecision over what to watch. Mostly I'm just looking for good Youtubers or anime podcasters who don't come off as ignorant normies.
>>23017502Anyone doing that kind of shit professionally is going to end up pandering to said ignorant normies if not being one themselves and will thus have at least partially shit taste. You don't need to optimize your hobby. If you kind of want to watch Macross II you can just watch Macross II. If you hate it, stop. You'll probably have a better time approaching it that way than trying to find something that's perfectly suited to your exact current mood or whatever it is you're doing now.
>>23017535I'm not necessarily making picks based on want. It's also me worrying about what I might run into whenever I play an SRW.
>>23017484I liked it! It's brisk, the girls are hot, and the art bangs hard. Good 90s sci-fi
>>23007941Which point?
>>23006990Sure, but after. It's not canon
>>23007005kys. You get no love.
>>23007947The Frontier movies were better, I can definitely say the same for Delta as well.
>>23007331That doesn't start till 7.
>>23028300>The Frontier movies were better,Wouldn't agree generally, but even if one does, they definitely go further into the "idolshit" the above was complaining about than the series.
Widely speaking and summarizing it as much as I can:Macross - The alien race only lives for war, men are women don't go along and they don't live together at all, they are shocked when they see that humanity's males and females live together, and they are shocked by Minmay's singing. Since they face many aliens who didn't know about it yet in the final war they use singing to confuse them. It's a "the less you explain the better" situation. The singer is an idol.DYRL - Same as in the series, although in the movie alien men and female are in an open war against each other. The singer is of course the same idol as in the series.Macross II - New aliens make their own "idols" for war to counterattack the singing strategy that humans developed. The singers are mostly the aliens, in fact the singer that saves the day is an alien turned good, so I wouldn't call her exactly an idol.Macross Plus - The singing is actually done by an AI. It has some kind of hypnotic effect together with holograms.Macross 7 - Singing becomes retarded and almost a magical power. New batch of aliens suck an energy called "spiritia" from humans and leave them in vegetative state. The singing from the MC can not only revive them, but also be used as energy in cannons, and finally turn good a being that you could call, by all intents and purposes, some kind of an evil god. The MC has a rock band, so it's not an idol.Macross Zero - The singer here is a priestess who sings. She's posessed by some being created by the protoculture and after saving the day takes off to space. So not an idol.So that means that before Frontier the only Macross series with an idol was the original one. They all have some sort of singer or thinga that makes music, that's for sure, but only in Macross it's an idol.Frontier and Zero went full idolshit, and I guess that won't change for a while. And the whole crap with singing affecting piloting is getting more and more retarded each new join.
>watching Japanese kusoge Youtuber stream his kusoge New Year blind bags>Switch version Macross Shooting Insight was included in one of the bagsSo it's kusoge, no wonder I didn't hear anything about it after release.
I just started watching SDF Macross but I'm switchig between the Sub and Dub versions because the Dub just sounds better ( I think it was made in 2003?) Original sounds like it was recorded in a telephone booth. Will I miss anything watching the first macross dubbed?
>>23031415Why are you listening to a bible-thumping sociopath at MC
>>23006990So...can Macross be considered a musical?
>>23006990Don't watch delta.
>>23007331That only starts being a thing in 7.
>>23021052Macross II has never been in SRW and likely never will be.
>>23032161Because SRW is dead right?
>>23032207SRW’s not dead.
>>23032218When was the last installment
>>23029744Conveniently forgetting Sharon Apple huh? And Fire Bomber are absolutely Idols, they just play rock. Babymetal are idols depsite playing metal
>>23033731the fuck you say?>Macross Plus - The singing is actually done by an AI. It has some kind of hypnotic effect together with holograms.
>>23029744I don't like borrowing buzzwords from the zoomies in my posts but this is utter cope.By your logic with Macross II, Ranka isn't an idol because she's part Zentraedi, and Reina in Delta isn't an idol because she's part-Zoltan. Myung Fang is the idol behind Sharon Apple, who provides her personality and voice. Basara and Mylene are idols in all but name, as is Sara Nome. If you were actually trying to be fair to the other series, you could extend your cope to Delta by saying "um actually they aren't an idol group, they've been hired by a private military company to combat a threat so therefore they're actually a military unit". Every single series has a central character who functions as the idol, it takes different forms but it is essential to the identity of Macross. Frontier and Delta are logical extensions of that idea, evolving into two idols going down different paths but being connected by their relationship with the protagonist, and Delta explores a different genre with the idol group rather than just one or two individual idols. Furthermore, why does it matter? The franchise has always had an idol element to it, from the very beginning and up until today. Why are you so insecure that it affects your enjoyment of the show? I can only boil it down to the classic insincerity found in ironic weeb tourists who have flooded this site since 2016. If you don't like the music in Frontier and/or Delta then don't watch it and don't come into Macross threads to give your asinine complaints. In fact stop coming to /m/ and go back to R*ddit where you ironic weeb scum belong.
Macross 7 was good.