Nobody will look at this and think that because we are all oldfags and have watched Gunbuster and Diebuster by now. Go blogpost somewhere else.

>>23018689
watched this recently, the first four episodes are a standard "protag overcomes personal traumas" done fairly well even if a few plotlines were bit underbaked
the fifth had its ups and downs and sets up the "lets use the rules we set up and take them to their logical extremes" backdrop of the final two eps, but yes the final episode/scene was absolutely magnificent and bumps the whole series up by itself

>>23018689
>I know you look at it and think "UGH, SCHOOLGIRLS"
Yeah very common to see school girls in leotards and just think that's not for me am I right fellas haha....

>>23018689
Who do you think you're talking to?

Who the fuck hasn't seen Gunbuster?
Who the fuck doesn't love Gunbuster?
Who the fuck wouldn't fuck a schoolgirl?

>>23018689
And all us laughing.

>>23018751
>Who the fuck hasn't seen Gunbuster?
Tourists like OP and yourself.
>Who the fuck doesn't love Gunbuster?
People with actual taste.
>Who the fuck wouldn't fuck a schoolgirl?
Fuck off nonce.

>>23018785
Disregard that, I suck cocks.

>>23018785
Ignore this, I choke on dick.

>>23018706
nobody will read this and think diebuster is kino

>>23018791
>>23018794
The intellectual rigour of the average Gunbuster fan on full display. I can only imagine the below freezing temperature IQ required to enjoy this derivative trash that is no more than an abortion combination of Yamato, Starship Troopers, and Getter Robo, with no interesting concepts to offer aside from being perhaps the first example of Anno's utter lack of creativity. Kill yourselves immediately.

>>23018818
You fucking pus brain bag of shit. The closest you ever came to learning was getting run over by a school bus.

>>23018818
>derivative
Like this cheap, dime store pseudo-critique? Much of classical literature was extremely derivative. Many of the most beloved works of popular modern prose fiction are pattern-formed genre works. Have you considered that maybe the freedom a reliance on tropes gives you to leave much unimportant matter unexplained and focus instead on the core narrative or thematic thread you're actually interested in pursuing could be a good thing? Do you believe that all good ideas, symbols, and mechanical design principles should be forever consigned to the grave the first time paint is put to cel? Absurd. Absurd. Totally absurd.

>>23018802
#ReleaseThePubesCut

>>23018832
This.

>>23018827
What's "totally absurd" is pretending there is any artistic merit to the plagarism that Anno engages in. When I see that 0079 has a similar premise to Yamato I see that it is still offering some sort of artistic merit in other ways, namely by innovating or tackling different themes to the original works. Rather than an alien empire in Yamato, Zeon are humans. That's just a basic example. Even something like Geass, which takes obvious cues from 0079 in basic plot elements, is ultimately a very unique work that addresses completely different themes.
Gunbuster's most impactful, emotional scene, at the end of the OVA where Noriko rips her shirt open while pulling the core out in an epic self-sacrifice, is almost the exact same scene as Musashi's sacrifice in Getter Robo, with the only addition being tits because Anno has nothing even remotely interesting to add. Anno's entire career is lifting ideas wholesale with nothing to add, he is a complete and utter hack and the least talented director in anime.

>>23018832
>PubesCut
Hmm.

>>23018847
Yeah that's a little counterproductive now that I think about it.

>>23018844
This is why his talentless progeny in Trigger felt no shame literally tracing over Obari's work for Gridman to make their mecha sakuga, because this entire clique of subhumans are completely creatively bankrupt. They are like the Disney of anime.

>>23018844
You're so fucking stupid. You're conflating similarities in choreography with similarities in narrative or theme. Yes, that scene resembles Getter Robo. Does Gunbuster as a whole, in any sense beyond the purely aesthetic? No. Clearly it does not. The *matter* is entirely different. The story and characters and central thrust are entirely different.

>>23018689
is it time to post pubes?

>>23018854
Yes, he stole the characters and story from Aim for the Ace instead. So you have stolen choreography, stolen plot, stolen characters, and even stolen mecha design because the Gunbuster itself is like a mono-eye Getter G.

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Do I need to watch the original to appreciate the remake?

>>23018859
This is such a fucking ridiculous argument. You're able to identify a huge diversity of works from which Gunbuster takes inspiration. Clearly it's not a lazy copy of any one in particular, but its own unique work existing in and expressing the greatness of a particular era in the history of Japanese popular culture, the mind and the passion of its primary author. To call the Gunbuster a stolen design is also such a fucking ridiculous argument on its surface that nobody of any sincerity will be able to take you seriously any further.

>>23018859
Anon discovers that there are no unique ideas, I wonder if he gets mad when Armored Core uses themes and ideas from VOTOMS.

>>23018876
No, it is just a lazy copy of Aim for the Ace with robots, it just steals designs and choreography as well as you stupidly pointed out. The retarded argument that "all classic literature is derivative" ignores that there's a mountain of difference between inspiration and plagarism, of which all of Anno's horrible works fall on the latter side. Look at Code Geass, it's basically 0079 if Char was the protagonist and Amuro the antagonist, but it covers totally different themes and has a very different message and plot by the end. Anno on the other hand has no meaningful additions to make to any of his works because he is bereft of creativity. Any interesting idea he has ever had is just because someone else had it, and he has the gall to try and tell other people how to live their lives through his magnus opus of trash Evangelion.

>>23018826
cooked him

>>23018895
>there's a mountain of difference between inspiration and plagiarism
It was actually often the intention of ancient authors to retell the same old stories in as beautifully and technically sophisticated a manner as possible, not to come up with something totally original. A drawing from oral tradition is a paradigmatic (Gunbuster itself also draws from folklore in the form of the Urashima Tarou story). It was held that those stories were good, that those stories were beautiful, and that they deserved to be told again. Why is an animation director not allowed the same artistic license? Why is he not even allowed to imitate beautiful movements or pictures?
>it's just a lazy copy of aim for the ace
Anno and the team at Gainax made absolutely no secret of the fact that they were taking inspiration from a wide variety of different places, and were confident that the interesting ways their inspirations could be disassembled, reassembled, and synthesized, as well as their sheer artistic and technical skill, would be enough to justify the existence of the OVA to the public, to give it the distinction of a work holding value in itself. I mean, they literally titled it "Aim for the Top!". Do you think you've discovered some great secret by pointing out the connection? They clearly had a deep love for contemporary Japanese popular culture that they were eager to express. Gunbuster is a beautiful crystallization of the passion of early otaku and SF circles. Can you really call a loving and beautiful synthesis of Starship Troopers, Yamato, Gundam, Getter Robo, Aim for the Ace, tokusatsu films, Urashima Tarou, and more "derivative" and "lazy"? Are you really so insensitive that you can't appreciate their sincerity?

>>23018873
No, but Aim for the Ace is a lot of fun in a different way and it's stylish as all get out. Watch it anyway

>anon who just discovered mecha beyond ttgl attempts to show off his super obscure taste

>>23018929
>Gunbuster is a beautiful crystallization of the passion of early otaku and SF circles.
Macross is a far better example of this and is actually unique while still taking obvious inspiration from other sources. Gunbuster adds absolutely nothing to the lexicon of mecha because it is literally nothing aside from a patische of better anime that you should be watching instead.
>Can you really call a loving and beautiful synthesis of Starship Troopers, Yamato, Gundam, Getter Robo, Aim for the Ace, tokusatsu films, Urashima Tarou, and more "derivative" and "lazy"?
Yes, because it does nothing remotely interesting with any of it aside from having more fanservice.
>Are you really so insensitive that you can't appreciate their sincerity?
There's nothing sincere about being Family Guy-tier with your shitty pop-culture callbacks. "Hey Lois remember the time I pulled out the core of my robot? Heheheh!" Anno also goes on to criticise all the otaku who watched his trash in Evangelion and pretends he is better than them, so no, there's no sincerity in this absolute fucking worthless pube-faced faggot's entire filmography.

>>23019028
Done with repeating myself. I simply suggest you kill yourself.

art is something that is greater than the sum of its parts.

>>23018941
It's funny you say this because TTGL is just as derivative as the rest of Gainax's work but I find it much more palatable. It is just a retelling of GGG and Getter Robo of course but rather than something like Evangelion which ultimately serves as Anno criticising his own audience for sitting through his dull plagarisms, TTGL is a fun show with uplifting themes and basic but fun characters, along with a few good twists in the plot to keep everything interesting. It seems to be the most maligned Gainax show on this board but it's basically the only thing of any worth I think Gainax has produced aside from Honneamaise.

>>23018689
I watched it a year ago, I like seeing teenagers being silly and dramatic in my cartoons so that wasn’t an issue, it was great, though the ending feels a little too sad after how over the too Gunbuster became when the titular robot made it’ debut.

>>23019036
Yes you can only repeat yourself because you have no argument, Annofaggot. You can say "BUT UMM EVERYONE IS SUPER DERIVATIVE DOE!" all you like but Anno is essentially a plagarist operating in bad faith, and all of his horrible works are marred by the stench of his faggotry. I suggest you neck yourself, maybe mention Anno in your suicide note if you want his attention so much.

>>23019037
That is why Gunbuster isn't art, it's just shit. I would rather investigate the parts than watch the trash that is presented.

>>23018844
>Even something like Geass, which takes obvious cues from 0079 in basic plot elements, is ultimately a very unique work
Stopped reading here, anyone who seriously believes this isn’t worth taking seriously.

>>23019042
pastiche is art.

>>23019042
Stop replying to me you dumb animal

>>23018689
I tried watching this once. I thought it was really weird. Why are a bunch of highschool girls piloting mechs? Why are they doing push-ups with the mechs? I was later told that this is because the series is a parody of a tennis anime and it's supposed to be a funny joke that piloting mechs is treated like highschool sports. But if this is the case, why is Gunbuster so often paraded around as a straight-faced action mech series? I don't have the cultural context to understand the parody because I'm American. This series was released here as "Gunbuster", a quite generic mech series name, instead of the original title that more directly paid homage to the tennis anime. This series was peddled to me as a normal and cool mech series but then I got called a retard for thinking it was bizarre and not understanding the joke. What's going on here?

>>23019172
>But if this is the case, why is Gunbuster so often paraded around as a straight-faced action mech series?
It's everything after episode 2

>>23019028
What do you think of Shin Godzilla?

>>23019172
Everything that happens after episode 2 is a straight mecha action anime.

>>23019177
>>23019187
I stopped at episode 2 so I guess that explains it. I find it strange how I've seen nobody else before mention having this experience because those first two episodes are so completely bizarre if you're not in on the joke

>>23019038
I thought I was reading a sequel to The Jabberwocky the amount of fucking nonsense this is

>>23019189

Maybe they didnt stop at just 2 episodes like you did.

>>23019217
They all watched over 40 minutes of something weird and retarded without turning it off?

>>23019244

Back in the day you watched whatever you had, all of it.

>>23018689
Noriko’s pubes!

>WOOO!

>>23019028
>Anno also goes on to criticise all the otaku who watched his trash in Evangelion and pretends he is better than them
You are so unfathomably retarded holy shit, what are you doing on this website?

>>23018689
>coom bait low budget shovelware from Gaynax
No

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>>23019244
Welcome to anime in general, the whole medium is weird and retarded,

>>23019621
That's not weird or retarded at all

>>23019657
Abenobashi is 100% a weird anime, especially when put side by side with Gunbuster.

>>23019667
It's a comedy show that makes references to other anime and pop culture. That's not weird.

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Gunbuster is okay but hideously overrated.

https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4611553&

>>23019172
The american brain everyone

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Always enjoyed how Gainax mixed the old classic look of spaceships with the modern.

>>23019956
I love this scene.

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>anno stole all these ideas!! Even though it's awfully obvious he made it clear it was homages, I'm smart because I say they are ripoffs, not homages!!

>its okay to not have a single original idea as long as you call it a homage instead of plagarism!!!

>>23020286
Nobody will EVER think you're cool for doing this poser shit.

>>23020308
What exactly am I "posing" as, retard? I've watched everything Gunbuster ripped off for my own pleasure as I like robots and sci-fi anime and don't particularly give a shit what some tourist scum like you think about my opinions on said anime. I think the real "poser" here would be the faggot who thinks it's a real zinger to say "no-one thinks you're cool", because they have come to defend one of the most popular mecha shows ever and essentially baby's second mecha anime after Evangelion. They only feel validation by having the same shit opinion as everyone else. People like you need to go back where you fucking belong on r/anime.

>>23020403
Trying way too fucking hard.

>>23020408
>a post on 4chan is trying too hard
I wouldn't know if Reddit has captchas or not but if you think posting about your opinions is difficult here then maybe you should really think about going back.

>>23020416
Genuine dimwit.

>>23020363
Kiss and hold Noriko. Smoochie smoochie pat pat Nonoriri LOVE.

>>23020425
This anon gets it.

>>23020416
He's clearly right since every Gunbuster thread you have to come in here and do this song and dance. Even here, ITT, you've come back to it over the course of an entire day just so you can continue to post a show you supposedly don't like even though clearly no one here find anything you say convincing. I commend you if you're here to farm (you)s, but you're not getting any more from me.

>>23020436
I haven't posted in a Gunbuster thread in months and I don't recall when the last Gunbuster thread was. Perhaps, and this might sound crazy, mutliple people think this show is fucking crap? I know that it's hard for tourists from Reddit to understand but this isn't your hugbox for your terrible opinions to fester. If you can't handle it and need updoots from your fellow posters then you should go back.

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>>23020439
I want her. I need her. I HAVE to be with her.

>>23020454
Way too hot for Official.

>>23020463
Not too hot for Gainax!

>>23019956
They don't make em like this anymore.

>>23020488
Noributt.

>>23020363
Kirei.

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>>23020528
I want to settle down between her buttcheeks and spend the rest of my life happily married to her asshole

>>23018689
This series is criminally underutilized in SRW.

>>23018802
>>23018832
Is there any way to see it animated or it is just stills.

>>23020626
its been in 8 games. That's more than most series are in and it's also more than any other Gainax series

>>23019899
The strangest infographics I've ever seen. You've got some literal masterpieces like Dougram, Victory, and TTGL. Then some random slop like Netflix SAC, Build Divers, and SKL. And even some complete trainwrecks like IBO, Destiny, and Valverave.

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>>23018785
>>23018818
>>23018844
>>23018854
>>23018859
>>23018895
>>23019028
Based anno/gunbuster antifag. I dislike gunbuster & think its more overated than eva.
>Getter shin VS Neo (2000)
>Gunbuster (1988)
I have nothing to add.

>>23019028
>Macross is a far better example of this and is actually unique while still taking obvious inspiration from other sources
Macross never gets enough credit for shit but gnbuster get's all the accolades that macross & other work's are responsible for. Also i remember arguing with a dumbass on reddit that TTGL was fully inspired by gunbuster while i corrected him with xabungle & getter robo. He just wasn't getting it. Literally made by the same studio so making that point stupid.

>>23019038
>but rather than something like Evangelion
I like eva but its really microcosm of classic dark 70's & 80's mecha works. Both obscure & popular. I see transformative to an extent but still just as derivative as TTGL.

>>23019042
imao. I love this guy. A bundle of kek. Eat the annotards, chew & spit'em out!

The people who shit on Gainax works for being “overrated” or “derivative” while holding up slightly less popular works like Macross or Getter as obscure hidden gems for real sophisticates are pathetic. They always have been. Watching Macross and Getter is NOT impressive. You are NOT some kind of elite

>>23020904
>Watching Macross and Getter is NOT impressive.
Neither is watching Gaynakeds production.

>>23020924
There will never be a cuter /m/ girl.
There will never be a hotter /m/ girl.
There is only Noriko.
Noriko now and forever.

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>>23020963
Correct.

>>23018689
I thought it was just ok

>>23021048
Most kissable ass of all time

>>23020904
This is a classic case of projection. I hold up Getter and Macross over Gunbuster because Getter and Macross are actually good while Gunbuster is garbage. In fact even beyond it being borderline plagiarism, its still terrible. One thing that sticks in my mind is the ridiculous rushed romance between Smith and Noriko, where she falls for someone introduced in one scene and dying in the next, and we're supposed to believe that he had real impact on her because the scene is poorly directed and doesn't portray the passage of time or the development of a relationship between the two. Smith is slightly more than a total stranger yet this functions as a catalyst for Noriko's development. It's stupid and totally breaks immersion.
You think that I am an elitist because you watched Gunbuster to signal to your "friends" on Reddit that you are a sophisticated anime fan watching a hidden gem because its not as popular as Evangelion, and I am daring to counter your delusion.

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Anyone like Jung?

>>23021242
You don't know anything about me, you LARPing retard.

>This 6 episode long OVA series doesn’t have 52 episodes worth of character development therefore it’s bad

>>23021251
Very much.

>other films and OVAs can develop a character in a short amount of time but its okay when anno doesn't do it because... it just is!!!

>>23021242
It's plain that you just don't understand what it is you're even watching. Smith is not the point of the series. Smith is a trope in a kind of story you're expected to be familiar with who can therefore be deployed and disposed of very quickly without obscuring the author's intention whatsoever. We immediately know what kind of character Noriko is supposed to be, what she's supposed to be feeling, how she's been changed by reference to other works, so we can at lightning pace move into some of the best and most emotionally charged action in the OVA.

>>23021316
It's okay to have zero character development because it's a "homage". Got it. If Anno shit in a cup and told you to eat it, you faggots would do so because "HOLY SCIENCE ITS A REFERENCE TO 2 GIRLS 1 CUP! SASUGA ANNO-SENPAI!!!!"
It's not even character development being a problem, its that its simply unbelievable that Smith's death would lead to any character development for Noriko because the scenes are so poorly directed as to give no impression that time has passed and the two have grown close. Even just a throwaway line of dialogue, a bit of radio chatter or something to imply that they had spent more than two minutes together. The problem is that its the crux of her development and its completely unbelievable that she would give a shit about this person who is one step above a total stranger.

>>23021325
Dumbass.

>>23021338
I accept your concession.

>>23021358
Fucking tourist.

>>23020632
I got the scene webm from /m/

>>23018689
Anyone who looks at Gunbuster and thinks "ugh, schoolgirls" is a faggot who was rightfully filtered. Simple as.

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>>23018689
I still find the uniform silly it looks like she is wearing 3 layers just of underpants

>>23021942
It's cold in space.

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>>23021200
I want to do more than just kiss her butt.
>>23021251
I do. She's great and really enjoyable.

>>23022121
Intercrural intercourse.

>>23022407
Sex with Noriko and Jung at the same time?

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>>23022457
Yes please.

I always felt that the romances in Gunbuster were forced as fuck.

>>23022457
Jung is a nice girl, but I could never cheat on Nonoriri.

>>23022568
That’s because they were.

>>23018689
>kino
This board fucking hates that term for some reason.

>>23020611
What the fuck?

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>>23022864
It's from a mahjong game that features characters from Evangelion, Gunbuster, and Nadia.

>>23022887
Ohhh Nadia.....

>>23020870
>Also i remember arguing with a dumbass on reddit
stopped reading there, kill yourself or go back

>>23020677
there are a couple shitpost versions floating around that some anons mistakenly save without looking at the entire thing

>>23022893
They're all shitposts.

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>>23018689
You're obviously new, but you like Gunbuster, so you're alright with me, OP.

>>23020027
Eurotrash are just born with inherent knowledge of Japanese cartoons made in the 1960s

>>23021316
>Smith is a trope in a kind of story you're expected to be familiar with
>by reference to other works
>>23018929
>Yamato, Gundam, Getter Robo, Aim for the Ace, tokusatsu films
>>23018876
>expressing the greatness of a particular era in the history of Japanese popular culture, the mind and the passion of its primary author
So it's just a bunch of retards playing with toys and smashing together all the manchild shit they like, and it can only be enjoyed by people of a like mind (gay faggot nerds). Maybe read a book?

>>23021535
I'll look harder then.

>>23022979
very weak bait, you wouldn't be on this board, in this thread no less, if you weren't one of us

>>23022979
>So it's just a bunch of retards playing with toys and smashing together all the manchild shit they like
as is tradition

>>23022979
Why are you here if you hate giant robots?

>>23023085
>>23023201
I might be a nerd who likes giant robot cartoons, but even I start to get a little self-conscious when something is derived entirely from other giant robot cartoons and has no original substance. Miyazaki was right

>>23018689
It's good but it's really only there to give you a proper lead in to Diebuster which is the greatest anime ever created.

>>23023211
Hey, now! I love Diebuster as much as the next guy, but, the first is the greatest! Even Nono admits it!

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>>23022957
>Eurochads are just born with inherent knowledge of Japanese cartoons made in the 1960s
Yes

>>23022887
funnily enough, Noriko is the only good waifu there. You can easily tell Anno was a virgin nerd back then, since he couldn't write women for shit

>>23018689
I saw this recently for the first time after having watched a few other mechas of the time which lead up to it (79, Ideon, Zeta, VOTOMS, Macross, and Patlabor) and aside from the ending being romantic and satisfying to see, it didn't leave much of an impression on me otherwise. I'd end up later preferring Wings of Honneamise as far as early sci-fi Gainax goes.

>>23023804
You don't like Jung?

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>>23020454
you've already PO'd your Noriko, right anon?

>>23026061
My God...

>>23022568
Everything in Gunbuster is "forced" as fuck

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>>23020904
>while holding up slightly less popular works like Macross or Getter as obscure hidden gems
Are you implying macross & getter robo are more obscure than gunbuster? You can't be this retarded. Do you actually watch anything on this board outside 2 shows?

>>23020909
>Watching Macross and Getter is NOT impressive.
>Neither is watching Gaynakeds production.
Except It is impressive because it proves you watch more than JUST gainax shit!

Better yet, do you actually watch anything on this board outside gainax crap? What a fucking fraud & a poser. Kindly leave this board or at least don't have debates.

>>23018785
>I love gunbuster but would never ever ever ever ever find noriko attractive!

>>23027809
She got that dumb doe eye bimbo look to her.

>>23018689
Fuck no terrible show. This thing was one of my first introductions to the Genre and nearly turned me off of it in its entirety. This piece of shit is just a cult classic because it was relatively easy to have a complete collection of it due to it being a 6-episode OVA. The Plot is techno babble mixed with unearned grandeur as the protagonist goes from being consistently terrible no matter how much effort she puts in to suddenly the best pilot ever on the flip of a dime once she gets in Gunbuster. They even fuck up the big spectacle battle at the end by randomly changing animation mediums and rendering the entire thing in a fancier black and white system that makes it significantly harder to comprehend.
The Sequel Diebuster is a solid show though, but Gunbuster holds a special contempt from me for nearly poisoning the entire genre with its shittiness.

>>23027788
deleted my earlier post because I realized I misread your post and you're actually retarded
fucking yes, more people in western mecha circles have seen gunbuster than getter or macross, are you kidding me?
been that way since demolition d made his video on it back in the day

>>23022568
I liked them, cause they served the "everything is transient" theme well. Noriko continued to fight, and as she pressed on the world continued to change and become unrecognizable. Friends grew up and had children, who were then her age and then grew older than her. By the time of the final battle only a few people left alive would remember who Coach or Smith are. So even though their time together was incredibly brief, the girls kept the boys' memory alive, even long after everyone and everything else had turned to dust.

Even those chance meetings held incredible meaning and would be remembered until the end of time.

>>23026061
Odd choice of art to make into a figure
Wish they had picked something else

>>23018817
Die, queer.

>>23028149
>idiot made a video

Oh, you determine your reality from Youtube videos. That explains it.

Try going outside sometime

>>23028322
Go the fuck back.

>>23018689
this is probably one of the first things 80% of the people on this board watch

>>23028322
I don't think that anon is wrong, obviously Getter and Macross are much more popular than Gunbuster in Japan but in western circles I would say Gunbuster is more popular just because of the Anno connection and idiots like that Demolition D trying to pretend it's "proto-Eva" or some shit. I know at least one person irl who has only seen Gunbuster and not Getter or Macross, haven't really asked most anime fans I know because I don't want to discuss the worst OVA ever made.

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>>23028149
>deleted my earlier post because I realized I misread your post and you're actually retarded
>>The people who shit on Gainax works for being “overrated” or “derivative” while holding up slightly less popular works like Macross or Getter as obscure hidden gems for real sophisticates are pathetic
Macross & getter robo are objectively NOT "obscure hidden gems". Simple as that. No "nu huh you the retard" changes how wrong you were, jackass.

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>>23028149
>fucking yes, more people in western mecha circles have seen gunbuster than getter or macross, are you kidding me?
Too bad that small little distinction wasn't part of the previous plot of the discussion. now was it? In japan, macross & getter robo are more notable legacy mecha media.
>been that way since demolition d made his video on it back in the day
Who?
>>23028322
Some dumb youtuber? How is a youtuber from ages ago a full representation of western mecha circles?
>>23028600
in western anime fandom gunbuster is more well known with casuals or entry level anime fans. Its clearly more nuance with hardcore mecha fandoms like on this board. Getter robo & macorss are popular very well established franchises on this board & other similar mecha focus online spaces. That idiot baby doesn't know that.
>>23028329
Shut the fuck up. If you're the other guy arguing that macross & getter robo are more obscure than gunbuster, you have no place to say that.

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>I don't want to discuss the worst OVA ever made.
Its NOT that bad but gunbuster is indeed very overrated.

I feel like Noriko didn't become a huge badass just because it was necessary to fight, but because she needed her blood to burn to stave off her own despair. The series is very unkind to her, even just the flow of time robs her of precious moments she could've shared with others, moments she had to give up for the sake of everyone's survival. She had to rage and etch her name into history, that was the only way she could've stayed alive.

>>23029407
Can you fucking read?

>>23029430
I can't name an OVA I would consider worse and I'm sceptical that I may ever find one truly worse. Diebuster is honestly an improvement, though the protagonist is fucking annoying, it has that bizarre rape subplot in one episode, and the ending is so on the nose it made me laugh. The opening is great and it visually looks way better though.

>>23026269
My lady! My queen! Her royal highness!

>>23030276
I hate gunbuster so much, i can't imagine watching diebuster as well. Gunbuster fans say its shit, maybe its actually good on its own & doesn't have any of the "forced" bullshit melodrama the 1st ova had? Like noriko giving up after the death of a dood she met for 5 mins.

>>23029513
And she still has it rough in the end because the remainder of her life will be spent on an Earth with a completely alien society and culture to the one she left, with only Kazumi as a companion.

>>23031006
Kazumi choosing to accompany Noriko into Buster Machine 3 to give her a chance to come back alive instead of die completing the mission is the ultimate kindness possible anyone could've ever shown her. Both knew they probably weren't gonna come back, but did what they could to anyway. And this way Noriko doesn't have to face the unknown, alien world 12000 years in the future alone, where the reality that everything and everyone she ever knew is dead might've crushed her. She still has her onee-san. They're in it together.

Can you imagine the debriefing report after they arrived on Earth though? The confused looks as military command struggle to comprehend the scale and magnitude of the war Noriko and Kazumi fought in twelve thousand years ago.

>>23018689

>>23018706
This

I honestly, whole-heartedly believe that Gunbuster is the greatest anime ever made. I know it starts off as a parody, I know it references other shows that came before it. It doesn't matter. It's perfect. It's a masterpiece.

Diebuster is also really good, I really dislike the fact that people always draw comparisons between the two - just let it be its own thing. Gunbuster stands on its own and can also stand with Diebuster; Diebuster did nothing to ruin Gunbuster so it's fine.

>>23029513
It's romantic, isn't it?
Her story is a bit like Jesus - by that I mean, the worst thing that could happen happened to the best, most innocent person possible, and yet she forthrightly faced it head-on.

>>23031288
Heroic sacrifices like that really get me. It's the same reason Kamen Rider Blade has the best ending of all Rider shows.
To be fair, Kazumi didn't have much of a reason to go back to earth after Coach died anyway, but yeah.
Noriko and Kazumi are true heroes; they put themselves through hell on a snap decision. It makes me tear up just thinking about how noble it is. For men, that is the meaning of life itself.

Imagine Diebuster, but instead of Nono being an amnesiac Buster Machine her true identity is Jung Freud, who willingly entered cryostasis after returning to Earth and high command calculating how long it would take for the Gunbuster to return to Earth, so she could be there to keep her promise and welcome her two friends back home. Her memories return when she sees the awakened Space Monster on Titan, and unlike Nono she survives the final battle to help Lal'C orchestrate the grand message Noriko and Kazumi get at the end.

>>23030276
>I can't name an OVA I would consider worse
So you've watched like five total? There's a lot of trash out there retard

>>23031775
Only someone who has watched five total mecha shows would consider Gunbuster good. I have watched tons of OVAs and I can't think of any worse ones, even ones I didn't enjoy I can find something nice to say but Gunbuster has no upsides.

>>23031860
Give us your top 5 series.

>>23031882
Nadesico
Infinite Stratos
Gundam X
Mazinkaiser skull
Ride on

>>23031900
You mother fucker.

>>23031882
Tekkaman Blade
GGG
Macross 7
VOTOMS
Birth

>>23018751
Haven't gotten around to it actually, I got a backlog of games, anime, manga, shows and books to get through. Not touching, not because I don't think it's good but I'm saving it for when I need it most.

>>23031860
How are you typing here if you're blind that's impressive

>>23031900
>Mazinkaiser SKL anywhere near a top 5 list, let alone in it
All we needed to know to know that your opinions are worthless.

>>23031975
>the cockrider of the ugliest OVA ever is accusing anyone else of being blind
Sure buddy.

>>23032054
Not that anon and I'm not sure why he jumped in to answer a question aimed at the anon above, but if you are going to say that SKL is worse than Gunbuster then you should really think about killing yourself.

>>23032077
Why yes, I am in fact going to say that the OVA that exists for no reason other than to serve up a bunch of mindless action scenes with a bunch of characters you have no reason to care about since they aren't even taken from the manga like the original Mazinkaiser OVAs IS worse than Gunbuster.

>>23032081
>Why yes, I am in fact going to say that the OVA that exists for no reason other than to serve up a bunch of mindless action scenes with a bunch of characters you have no reason to care about
Good summary of Gunbuster, but I would have changed "a bunch of action scenes" to "very few action scenes". Great effort champ.

>>23032105
You're kidding yourself if you think SKL doesn't fit that description, either that or you're so attached to anything with the name Mazinger in it that you're willing to pretend SKL's many, many flaws don't exist just because it has a cool Go Nagai robot as the lead.

SKL has good music, but that's about it.

>>23032115
It's just an asinine complaint that you honestly can use to critique anything. Gundam 0079 is just 43 fight scenes in a row with characters you have no reason to care about either. I mean, why would you care about some random space teenager sitting in a samurai robot. Who cares about anything? They're all just fictional characters anyway.
SKL isn't meant to be anything deeper than a bunch of fight scenes. The characters aren't deep but the two lead guys are likeable and have fun banter together. The SKL is a cool robot and has some fun abilities and weapons. It achieves its goals perfectly and is a joy to watch because of it. Gunbuster is a slog even at six episodes, with utterly forgettable and terribly-designed characters (easily Mikimoto's worst and most generic work). The Gunbuster itself is the most overrated mecha ever, it's just an uglier Getter Dragon and doesn't do anything cool. In terms of entertainment value, SKL is the clear victor and achieves its goals much better.

The childish Anno hateboner really blinds some people completely.

>>23031775
Only fags that has seen less than 5 ova's would think gunbuster is good.

>>23031900
>Infinite Stratos
Imao.
Everything else is based
>>23031914
Also based.

Gunbuster still overated.

>>23032081
>Why yes, I am in fact going to say that the OVA that exists for no reason other than to serve up a bunch of mindless action scenes with a bunch of characters you have no reason to care about
You forgot to say pointless & forced melodrama too. Don't know how anyone couldn't find noriko & the rest of the cast annoying af.

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>>23032138
I second this. And yeah, the gunbuster is a ugly piece of shit robot. Its tacky on a visually aspect too. Jung is mikimoto's best design character from gunbuster but he wasn't designing at his best if you ask me.

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>>23032148
>>The childish Anno dicksucker really blinds some people completely.
Even anno himself would tell you to go watch something else instead, like the very things that inspired him.

Damn, 200 posts and half of them is one guy screeching about Gunbuster is the worst thing ever, talk about being obsessed.

>>23031860
>Only someone who has watched five total mecha shows would consider Gunbuster good
That is a completely different statement from "I can't think of an OVA worse than Gunbuster", which is a laughably easy thing to disprove when shit like Twinkle Noa Rock Me or Skelter Heaven exist.

>>23032452
That's fare argument

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>>23032446
Yeah kinda wacky. Trolls trolling in a troll thread.

>>23032446
I'm not him, i don't think its the worst ova ever. But it is overrated.

>>23032463
Some self awareness..

>>23032466
That’s fair, there’s better OVA’s out there that haven’t gotten as much attention, insisting that Gunbuster is the worst one ever though is just ridiculous.

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>>23032472
It is very ridiculous. I wish that anon wouldn't operate on such extremes. I think gunbuster has a lot of great points to it. For me, its a 6/10 to a light 7/10. Its good but i also find the tecnoblabble exposition dumps long winded & the cast to be annoying to unreasonable.
> there’s better OVA’s out there that haven’t gotten as much attention
Yeah i guess so, i thought megazone, birth, leda, fight izher one to all be more fun & exciting to watch over gunbuster. Are they better? idk, i easily prefer to watch those ova's over it. They're not super complex but they are fun to watch because they get straight to the point of a cool ova for me. Not that gunbuster should get ignored or anything, but its a shame it get's all of the attention from the ova boom.

>>23032452
I have seen Skelter Heaven and would rather watch it again over Gunbuster because its shorter. Twinkle Noa has like two scenes of PowerPoint animation which is a retarded reason to call a show bad. I guess SDF Macross sucks because the original airing has one terribly animated episode as well. Or Tekkaman Blade. Since you're an Anno dicksucker, that must also mean your precious Evangelion is shit too because of episodes 25 and 26. Instead of downloading your opinion from Kenny Lauderdale (a terrible youtuber might I add), maybe you should make up your own mind. Or blow your mind out of your head with a twelve-gauge, whatever works.

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>>23032482
>Skelter Heaven
Never seen it. Is it really that bad?
>precious Evangelion is shit too because of episodes 25 and 26.
I enjoyed those episodes as they get to the point of the main theme of the series.
> Instead of downloading your opinion from Kenny Lauderdale (a terrible youtuber might I add), maybe you should make up your own mind.
I hate how meme motivated his thumbnails & style of video editing is. I refuse to watch of his videos just based off that principal alone.

Won't be long before he's defending Mars of Destruction of all things based on how much Anno's works are driving him up the wall.

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>>23032501
I bet you're not assuming he's one person talking to himself? This site really loves to do that to people who disagree with them..

>i download my opinions from MALs ratings
Well now everything makes sense. Let me guess, FMA:B is the peak of anime as well?

i hope, i mean.

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>>23032504
Why did that part of all things get your panties in a twist? imao.

>>23032504
Wow you’re sounding like the Funnyschizo from /a/ now, did he migrate or is his brand of mental illness spreading to every anime relates board?

It didn't get my "panties in a twist", it just reveals that you are a literal NPC who doesn't think and just goes with whatever a Youtuber tells you to think. It's actually quite sad, I wouldn't wish anyone to be such an unthinking drone. My condolences.

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>>23032482
I fucking knew that mentioning Twinkle Noa Rock Me would get some sort of complaint about Kenny Lauderdale of some kind after seeing you mention Demolition D earlier in the thread. I can't believe you actually went for the bait there.

>you're an Anno dicksucker
I honestly really dislike most of Anno's works, I think the only one I like is Shin Godzilla since I like most Godzilla things anyway and I guess Re: Cutie Honey. Gunbuster is just fine, like yeah I want to stick my PP inside Noriko/Jung and episodes 5 and 6 are really cool but god damn episodes 2 and 3 are slogs to get through on a rewatch. It's far from "Best mecha anime ever!" but it's just as far from "Worst mecha anime ever" as well.

>Or blow your mind out of your head with a twelve-gauge, whatever works.
I'm not the one who's been going on and on about how much he hates a show for over a week now instead of doing literally anything else productive with his life, like watching something else or building a gunpla or something. If spending 200 posts arguing about a show while letting youtubers live rent free in your head is the only way you can get your kicks these days then maybe you should take your own advice.

>>23032512
I don't use /a/ so I wouldn't have any clue who the fuck that is. Maybe go back there, tourist.

>>23032514
It was just a joke, don't take offense to it~ i think you got me confused with someone else.

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>>23032516
I thought this was (you) >>23032482
the whole time...
>damn episodes 2 and 3 are slogs to get through on a rewatch. It's far from "Best mecha anime ever!" but it's just as far from "Worst mecha anime ever" as well.
This so much this. I don't hate gunbuster but the last 2 (ok) episodes doesn't make up for the wooden dialogue, tecnoblabble exposition dumps & annoying whiny characters. The overall pacing is a slog.

>>23032516
If you think this takes any real dedication then you are sorely mistaken. I browse /m/ for like 10 minutes total a day. I'm not sure why the prospect of posting is such a arduous task. Is it because of the captcha? Not beating the NPC accusations if you actually struggle with those. This is a slow board where long-form discussions take place and the same thread will stay up for months, meaning I can read and reply to comments making really bad arguments against my points. I wouldn't even make up a fifth of posts in here either.

>I can't believe you actually went for the bait there
Wow, I sure got owned. I dared to shittalk a retard who has poisoned the well of anime discussion with his retarded videos that have no substantive criticism. Does that get you your dopamine hit for winning an internet argument?
>I honestly really dislike most of Anno's works
I agree with you here, obviously. I don't particularly enjoy Shin Godzilla either, though. I actually have a great deal more enjoyment out of Evangelion than Gunbuster as well. I think it has interesting visual design and more interesting characters, even if overall I think the plot is extremely derivative of things I'd rather watch like Ideon and Mazinger.
>It's far from "Best mecha anime ever!" but it's just as far from "Worst mecha anime ever" as well
I just don't really agree at all. I'd rather watch nearly every other mecha anime over Gunbuster. Even stuff I don't like. I really don't care for Unicorn and I'd probably argue its worse for its terrible worldbuilding but I've watched it twice and haven't rewatched Gunbuster.

I think Gunbuster could have benefitted from shelving Kazumi once her romance subplot with the coach was done in favor of building up Noriko and Jung's strained relationship instead and have her be the Gunbuster copilot, her being a rival turned friend was a cool idea but she just goes through the motions without there being any real development, having her replace Kazumi would be a good way to resolve that since she'd have more screen time, plus it'd make the decision to be completely separated from humanity for millennia on end more meaningful since Noriko won't be spending that time with someone who was there to cheer on her throughout the entire series.

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>>23032532
I'm not him & i agree with everything you've said here/

>>23032533
Don't worry, anno made up jung with askua. No, seriously fuck how jung got side lined in gunbuster. The coolest character both in design & personality, side benched.

>>23032523
>The overall pacing is a slog
Take your ADHD meds

>>23032554
I like Noriko more than her but I do think Jung is more entertaining than Kazumi, she's alright, but she stuck around way too long considered she's mostly just there to support Noriko in a series that's all about her overcoming all the hardships life throws at her, whether it's from the Space Monsters or the people she has to deal with on a day to day basis, Noriko's partner in the Gunbuster being someone who will challenge her if she screws up instead of trying to build her confidence back up in the second half would keep in line with Noriko having to become a tough woman to survive better than just having her onee-sama around to encourage her.

>>23032562
That's a strong counter argument as to why i found it be a slog~ random old man standing around exposting tecnbabble ate up a lot of unnecessary screen time. I'm sorry but its true. The discussion of the in universe technology was boring & should have been left out of the script or at least decreased.

>>23032563
>Kazumi
The blue hair chick? I found her forgettable due to her lack of a interesting personality. In the later half, it felt she was just *there*. Yeah, jung playing a more substantial role as noriko's rival would've been better.

>>23032579
Same, if this was a longer anime series it'd be fine to have some exposition, but screen time is a scarce thing when you're an OVA series with less than 10 episodes, too much tech explanation in a series as short as Gunbuster is a bad thing.

>>23032588
Imagine if uc gundam had every mobile suit that made a 1st appearance got an info dump on how it worked, its purpose & why? I don't think 0079 would've found success.