Rewatching Power Rangers from the start, it's been a while
It is shit, watch the original japanese.
>>23035746no
The general died, you should've died with it.
>>23035724What do you want, a cookie?>>23035746I recognize Power Rangers has aged poorly, but Zyuranger wasn't great from the getgo. There's way too much focus on the kids in danger halfheartedly screaming for help over and over while the Zyurangers themselves are just kind of there. The only worthwhile thing in Zyuranger is whenever the plot is related to Burai, or when Bandora is being silly. I honestly believe the antics the Power Rangers get up to are more interesting than most of the things in Zyuranger.
>>23035855Don't bother. They're just gonna call you a spammer despite knowing in there heart that Jetman, Dairanger, Kakuranger, Ohranger, Carranger, Megaranger, Gingaman, GoGoV and Timeranger were all superior to Jewranger
>>23035724A parable. You got your bicycle a long time ago. When you got it, it had training wheels because you hadn't learned how to ride it, but then you did. Other kids took the training wheels off. Some of them even moved on to riding motorcycles. You can ride your bicycle just fine, but yet you persist in keeping the training wheels on for decades even though you don't need them anymore. Why would you do that?
>>23035888You're on an anime forum. Grow up, nerd
I will be happy the day Haim Saban dies.
>>23035855I'll give you all that except Gingaman, Gingaman was a slog.
>>23035888Oh my god. Shut up faggot.
>>23035888>Durrrrr you're not a grown up fan unless you've watched Godzookie vs. Bazookasaurus in the traditional Japanese
Yoshi Sudarso is living his dream.https://x.com/DigitamerX/status/1877886014418481208/photo/1
>>23035878That's the worst kind of fan. The kind that insists everything is perfect and refuses to acknowledge any flaws. How many bad Sentai shows are there? Didn't the second series flop and I've heard Ninninger wasn't good either.
>>23036548Nininger tried so hard to subert expectations and just ended up a terrible mess. Oh look a ninja that uses a truck, how unexpected.
>>23036550I for one enjoyed Nininger being a mecha disaster that looked like each member of the team brought their mecha from a different show. Who needs consist design themes these days?
>>23036548They aren't perfect or flawless, they're just better than Power Rangers (every single one)
>>23036804Being better than Turbo, Megaforce, or Ninja Steel isn't that hard.
>>23035920Stopping binging these shows you zoomer, Gingaman is great.
I'm up to Green With Evil. Holy shit the power rangers got their shit kicked in so hard. Tommy walks into the defenseless command center to fuck up their system twice, Zordon almost gets permanently unreachable, they lose their morphing and communication powers, Jason gets kidnapped, and their zords get eaten up by the earth. If everyone on Team Rita wasn't playing with their food it would've been over several times over.
>>23036804RPM was better than Go-Onger.
>>23035888One kid's show made in Japan vs a chop shop Americanization of said Japanese kid show isn't that much to spout about. That being said, there are 2 things in favor of the Japanese shows:1) They're wholly built from the bottom up by the Japanese with passion instead of being Frankensteins where the action clips don't mesh well with the US footage2) Sometimes the sentai season actually does a good job in pushing the envelope on depicting darker subject matter for kids>>23035914Don't sink to that level. He's a greedy douchebag but hardly anyone to rejoice that they died. >>23036548I can somewhat understand sentai purists over the fact that it's the question of all the props, stunt scenes, costumes (y'know all the flashy stuff that PR retains without having those pesky Japanese faces and people if they can help it) being made by staffers with passion. I can understand PR back in the 90's because Americans weren't going to watch a show full of Japanese people and some of the content would've been too risky to show. But it's kinda pathetic that there are men in their 30s and 40s still clinging to this rendition. It cements the stereotype that Americans are nothing more than slobbering cultural philistine racists who can't handle anything from Japan. >>23036804I'm 21 years old. I caught RPM and thought it was a very good show but I was only 5 when I first saw it so it's like I knew any better. I've only seen 5 sentai seasons (Changeman, Ohranger, Carranger, Gekiranger, Go-Busters) so there definitely is more thought put into sentai. I mean it's easy for an adaptation to improve the source material when all the work is already done. If I have a copy of somebody else's homework, no shit I find something to do better.
>>23038962On a rewatch or MMPR it's actually quite entertaining to see the seams in how it's made. Like when you catch things being cut awkwardly or clearly trying to hide the fact that it doesn't like up with sentai, or things they appear to just arbitrarily reorder (and trying to figure out why), or just silly things like the little Green Ranger figure attached to the top of Dragonzord as it moved around
>>23039261I only saw a bit of MMPR when ABC aired it after RPM. Green with Evil Part 2 showing Zordon's past warrior against one of Rita's knights definitely shows that it was taken from a foreign source. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQu-m6KP4IUAt 2:46I was too young for original PR so I don't really have fanboyism over it. I treat it as a relic of its time; something to poke fun at and examine how the US footage blends with the sentai clips. But it's kinda sad how there's middle aged people obsessing over this.
>>23039286I was referring to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri2k9fK2pL8&t=363s specifically by the way
>>23036804Lost Galaxy, Time Force, Wild Force, Ninja Storm and SPD are on par with their Sentai counterparts.
>>23039326what about space and mega
>>23038962>I'm 21Shut the fuck up then.
>>23039304Oh yeah I could tell how cheap the Red Ranger footage looked when he destroyed the Sword of Evil>>23039326>>23039336Can you give me a brief rundown? I never saw any of those series because I wasn't born or too young. >>23039344Aw did I hurt your feelings old fag? This isn't your super secret safe space.
>>23035724Hunter Deno actually went to my high school back then. Kind of cool see ppl from your school make it in TV.
>>23039336Megaranger has lower stakes but looks better, while In Space has higher stakes but feels a bit all over the place quality-wise.Overall I prefer Megaranger.
>>23038962>Don't sink to that level. He's a greedy douchebag but hardly anyone to rejoice that they died.zionists aren't people.
>>23035724I never understood why MMPR gave the costumes those thick neck covers.
>>23039383NTA but Megaranger and Space are notable that how vastly different they are. Megaranger despite having apace motif is more towards technology in general while Space is a full on space opera. Megaranger is a standalone series (like vast majority of Sentai), but a very good standalone series. Space meanwhile is the then-final season of Power Rangers so it was meant to tie up 6 seasons.Personally as someone who now abhors Power Rangers, Space is the season that reminded me of why I love the franchise in the first place. And more importantly, feels like an actual Super Sentai or even a good kids action adventure show (in the vein of Ben 10, Marvel, DC, Transfomers etc). Space is pretty much reaponsible to why Power Rangers was able to continue for years.But I do have a bit of trouble saying which one I prefer. Megaranger is really great, but I tend to prefer Space but saying it would be like a disservice to Megaranger. They're both amazing.
>>23038962>Don't sink to that level. He's a greedy douchebag but hardly anyone to rejoice that they died.Sorry anon, I'd usually think like you but in the case of Haim, he's a very, very, very stereotypical jew and a zionist. Would happily sue anyone who pays homage to Power Rangers, wouldn't be surprised if he starts going senile he thinks he invented henshin heroes and picks a fight with Toei. And then, much as Power Rangers is part of people's childhood, unfortunately the franchise has a reputation of being a joke. Sentai and Kamen Rider have a hard time reaching an even bigger audience because of this (though in hindsight that's a good thing, I don't want Sentai and Kamen Rider to be ultra mainstream and ruined like MCU even if we already got insufferable fans)>I mean it's easy for an adaptation to improve the source material when all the work is already done.That is ultimately the reason why I gave up on Power Rangers and went full time with Sentai. After RPM, subsequent seasons of PR got worse, not only that but they don't even improve on a bad Sentai season, chief being Ninninger and Ninja Steel. Plus it's just the way they are made these days. Yes Power Rangers has always been on a low budget, but my problem is how plasticky and fake the productions, set pieces and props are. Dino Fury on paper you could say is better than Ryusoulger, but I'd rather watch Ryusoulger.
What's anyone's thoughts on this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96WIdAf3HYU
>>23039764as a PR cuck who's never watched any sentai, I feel like Wild Force is a good place to stop. You get Forever Red which feels like a nice sign-off and you get to hop off before things really get bad
>>23039764>wouldn't be surprised if he starts going senile he thinks he invented henshin heroes and picks a fight with ToeiThat would be glorious. It would burn bridges between Toei and US distributors irrevocably.
>>23039820Didn't Disney actually want to end it there and just dub Sentai there on out? IIRC, they never cared for Power Rangers and only got it as part of a package deal because they wanted Fox Family which they turned into ABC Family.
>>23039820Ehh some Disney seasons are just as good, like the bad ones are mostly Mystic Force and Overdrive. God, didn't realize that when PR temporarily ended in 2009 islt actually meant the death of the franchise subtly.
>>23038962bro you post your life story in every thread. Just move on.
>>23039826I'd love that especially if it makes Haim look embarassing throughout. But worst case scenario Haim somehow uses his zionist rank to goad Israel to attack Japan.Lol imagine if WW3 started because of fucking Power Rangers.
I always found it impossibly cool how White Ranger's costume is so wildly different from the rest, and was disappointed when I learned that he's from different show... until I saw that his costumes is wildly different in his own show as well.Is Dairanger good? How does it compare to MMPR?
>>23039773Threadly reminder, supporting Power Rangers mean you support gave money to the Israel Defense Force
>>23040246Dairanger couldn't be any more different from MMPR, and it's WAY better than Zyuranger. One of the better 90s series.Also the White Ranger in Dairanger was actually a little kid who liked to grope the pink ranger and grew into a short-adult when he transformed.
>>23040317>grew into a short-adult when he transformedSounds like some western 3rd rate super-hero.
>>23040325It does explain Tommy being more "excited" as the White Ranger during season 2 though.
>>23040341I was referencing shazam, but I think after watching opening I'm sold.
>>23040101The US can't afford to alienate Japan and Saban ain't that big of a fish to do something like that. I truly hope he does get delusional enough to claim all toku is his so that he destroys any vestige of his life.
Anyone think that Ninja Fury is worth a rewatch?
>>23040423He's still got all the TV shows that he and Shuki Levy scored for "free" back in the 80s and 90s.
>>23040447Care to explain?
>>23039764Wasn't Tatsunoko vs. Capcom not allowed to use Hakushon Daimao in the USA version due to Saban's "Bob in the Bottle" localization?
So, who's worse? Saban or Harmony Gold?
>>23040459Weren't they also planning to put Samurai Pizza Cats in the game too?
>>23040459This is true. >>23040494Yes but licensing issues tooIf anything, young Japanese execs have caught wind of how much of a cunt US companies are and will make sure this never happens again. >>23040493They're both assholes but at least HG is dying
Two things. 1. This is a Power Rangers thread. Not a Super Sentai thread. If you can't stay on topic, then we might as well remove it. 2. I know you are replying to yourself repeatedly for almost the entire thread. I'm not sure what compels anyone to reply to themselves this much, but as long you behave then your thread won't get deleted again like the last one. Nor will you won't get suspended for several days. Behave, play nice, and stay on topic (Power Rangers not Sentai).Consider this fair warning.
>>23035888>You’re not a real fan unless you watch zetoryukahentairanger and abandon it’s Americanized version Power Ranger Super Duper Morphin to the eXtreme
>>23040554same type of post
>>23040493Both companies are terrible, but at least with Power Rangers it was a lot more easy to convincingly fake shit since it’s all live action, meanwhile as soon as “Robotech” switches over to the episodes whose source material has nothing to do with Macross the illusion completely shatters since the VFs and Zentradi just completely disappear.
>>23040493Not a Saban apologist but he never outright says he created Super Sentai and other toku or implied that he outsourced the Japanese for contracting like HG and Carl Macek said in the 80's about why the animation for Robotech was done in Japan. >>23040554PR is dead in the water. And PR has always been linked to sentai since Day 1. So take your fair warning elsewhere and I say this who loved growing up with RPM. This kind of autism doesn't do PR fandom any favors. >>23040561I have a live-and-let-live attitude. I'm not gonna rag on someone for loving the stuff they grew up with. I watched English dubs of anime on Toonami when it came back in 2012 so I didn't bother watching the subs of the anime they screened. However, PR is something of a dinosaur. It's something I can look back and say, "Hey it's kinda funny how the US took a Japanese show and Americanized it". But now it's kinda cringe that this practice is still being done and the legions of fanatics who think it's so goddamn untouchable. And it doesn't automatically mean sentai is this sacred treasure that moronic Amuricans sullied either.
>>23040585Well PR always filmed original footage that it stitched with the sentai scenes. HG couldn't (because of legal reasons) get away with blatantly drawing in SDF Macross character designs in Sentinels which the fans wondered why they were so different.
>>23040586There’s no way Carl said that, no one could be so dumb or so arrogant as to think they could get away with saying they invented the series they’re translating.
>>23040586Isn’t Power Rangers dead in the water right now though? I can’t think of any other IP that Americanizes foreign media as much as PR did.
>>23040590https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xejgJdHC5AAt 7:45>Well Japanese animation industry is geared up to produce animation at the speed at which we consume it in the United StatesI didn't believe it either until I saw this interview and came across other ones from the 80s. He felt he could get away with it because the Internet wasn't around and American companies felt they did the Japanese a favor by editing and distributing anime for US audiences. Plus if you watch the full interview, he tries to pass off the anime cels as Harmony Gold's. >>23040594Exactly. PR is so fucking obsolete that it's cringe. The only reason why they cobble from sentai is to save money filming their own scenes. I saw Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog thanks to /m/ and that was 100% kosher from Saban. It proves that the US CAN make their own sentai-style production but they don't want to. Even Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters from Beverly Hills was a hoot. They took pro-wrestling, Ultraman, and even had the teens not be friends in the beginning but normal teens that bickered.
>>23040590This isn't new. American distributors felt that if viewers found out the show was originally from Japan, they were afraid nobody would watch it back then. https://web.archive.org/web/20190809185128/https://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/americanizing-anime/Fred Patten translated the original Tekkaman the Space Knight for US syndication and this is what he had to say:>I have personally experienced this. In 1984, I was part of a production team led by producer/director William Winckler to turn Tatsunoko Productions’ 1975 Tekkaman, the Space Knight into an American TV cartoon show. When we were developing screen credits, I asked to be listed as Translator or Adapter. No, Winckler said; I would be the Writer, and none of the original Japanese credits would be shown. If any TV executive realized that Tekkaman was not an American production from start to finish, nobody would buy it. (Almost nobody bought it, anyway.)They were able to get away with that kind of cuntery back then but not today.
>>23040623I can’t imagine what things were like back then that some execs seriously believed people wouldn’t be interested in a cartoon from a foreign country.
>>23040630Are you kidding me? Even in Hollywood today there's executives who are under the age of 35 who truly believe that Asians can't be seen on TV/movies. It wasn't until the 2000s that the US finally got proper dubs of anime with the BGM and sometimes even the Japanese opening/ending songs intact. I mean, I sorta understand where they were coming from. The US is not a multi-cultural bastion of tolerance that it likes to think it is. My Polish grandfather had to Anglicize his first name to Jared from Jaroslaw because he wanted to fit in his WASP neighborhood. And Japan bashing was still a thing back in the 70s to the early 90s. Japanese were seen as a competitor as well as our former enemy. Once the US forced Japan to submit to the Plaza Accords so that we could nuke their economy, then Japanese stuff was tolerated because they wouldn't overtake us anymore. However, with the rise of how popular anime/manga and J-video games are, it's just a matter of time that Western companies will try and subvert it like they did with US franchises.
>>23040585>>23040589Kind of funny how Voltron did the same thing. Merging together two anime that had nothing to do with each other. But they were able to commission Toei to make new episodes of Lion and a crossover movie featuring both teams. There's also all the Western made sequels and reboots. Though, I don't think Japan or Toei gives a shit about GoLion compared to Sentai.
>>23040641WEP never pulled any assfuckery like HG or Saban did. Though I do question why the fuck did Toei just allow Golion to be sold away to a foreign company like that. Even if it was small potatoes; you never give away an anime series like that. But it's not like WEP handled the property well. LOL, I remember watching Legendary Defender and thought it was interesting at first but man I'm glad I quit watching it when it started to be less about the robots.
>>23040641Toei flat out sold the rights to Golion and Dairugger, and Golion wasn’t anything special so it’s the one series I won’t complain about being Americanized. (Dairugger is a crime though, Star Trek but as a Super Robot is an amazing concept and it’s a shame WEP completely ignores any potential it has in favor of making more Golion reboots/remakes)
>>23040646Dairugger XV and even the Vehicle Voltron was so much better than Golion/Lion Voltron. As for Golion reboots/remakes, do you really think those retards and their staffers know how to make a proper anime after the clusterfuckery of Legendary Defender?What makes anime is not just imitating the surface elements of the way the art is designed or adding in more mature subject material. It's treating the visual medium as pushing the boundaries of storytelling for younger audiences without the limitation of live action; it's why Avatar: The Last Airbender is an American anime than Legendary Defender cribbing designs from Gurren Lagann. Even the 1980's Jem series is arguably a US magical girl anime.
>>23040644Karma works in the strangest ways, Saban and Harmony Gold backstabbed their Japanese partners and now their companies are decaying, with both of their prized IPs having lost almost all of their value to the point they have no choice but to come crawling back to Japan to get some measure of profit, whereas WEP who never tried to screw over Toei eventually got to buy the rights to the series they translated and got to enjoy a brief surge in success with Voltron LD.
>>23040658I thought Saban had nothing to do with PR after he sold it to Hasbro? Because Toei isn't going to let bygones be bygones after the shit he pulled on them. Japanese are very prideful and don't forgive being humiliated like that. As for HG, when did they ever go crawling back to Japan? Unless you're talking about Tatsunoko and not Studio Nue/Big West. Even Tatsunoko only has the international distribution rights and doesn't own the actual IP and designs like SN/Big West/Artland has. I did hear that Tatsunoko had new management years ago and reassessed their relationship with HG. As for WEP, I do recall some legal snarls they had over a live action Voltron adaptation. To be fair, Toei fed the beast because they willingly agreed to make new footage for Lion Voltron and a crossover movie as >>23040641 mentioned so I think that's how WEP got away with buying out Golion. But Toei probably got a good penny out of it since the ball was in their corner. And that brief surge got killed off when Legendary cared more about yaoi shippers than space opera and combining robots.
>>23040623Fred Patten and his colleague Pat Munson-Siter are why there are so many misconceptions about old school mangaka and Japanese animation, like claiming Cyborg 009 were the X-Men and Ishinomori the Stan Lee.
>>23040679Interesting. I'm not too familiar with them besides knowing they did a lot of work translating anime/manga in the 80's and 90's. I know Pat Munson-Siter from his Five Star Stories guide I came across years ago.
>>23040660>I thought Saban had nothing to do with PR after he sold it to Hasbro?He still forces them to put in his name in it.
>>23040684Yeah, they did some groundwork in helping popularize a lot of anime in the sci-fi con circuit, though as time went on they never thought to correct some of their mistakes and misconceptions in guides they put out. Kind of similar to their successors Jonathan Clements and Helen McCarthy and their books on anime that have even the most basic mistakes to get otaku "acktually".
>>23040640>Even in Hollywood today there's executives who are under the age of 35 who truly believe that Asians can't be seen on TV/movies.I don't believe you only because there are no Hollywood execs under the age of 35. They're all still boomers.
>>23040554Then nuke it if you are really a mod. We don't want PR exclusive BS here anymore anyway.
>>23040685Well yeah he's an egotistical cunt. Remember Bryan Cranston made a point in interviews that it's SABAN'S Power Rangers when the 2017 movie was brought up. Haim probably wants to make sure everyone knows he's still relevant and probably gets a check cut out whenever PR's name is thrown out there. But besides that, I don't think he has much say besides getting some trademark/copyright royalties. Him going off the deep end and challenging Toei over ownership of sentai and toku in Japan would be glorious to see. I bet other US distributors would be quick to kowtow and assure their Japanese partners that they wouldn't do that bullshit while the courts rake over Haim for his stupidity. He'll probably even make some asspull evidence that he invented costumed superheroes in vehicles when he was a little kid or something like that Thai motherfucker Sompote Sands did with Ultraman.
>>23040651It's a shame that with WEP owning them, Toei can't be the one to give people a good BD of Dairugger. At least Discotek got Albegas, the forgotten/forbidden Voltron.
>>23040709Wait they own Dairugger too? I thought it was only Golion? Well shit, that puts things in a different light. Oh well>>23040695Most of the current crop are in their 50's and 60's but they've got early millenials too. >>23040693Well it's not like the Internet isn't around. I only heard of those guys from historical blogs and I can always google as well as others.
>>23040705kek yeah, some of Saban's 90s anime dubs made sure to have "SABAN'S Pinocchio" or the like appended to their titles just to remind everyone that Haim Saban was trying to get his company to be like some Disney empire.Where Harmony Gold failed to get relevant beyond Robotech, Saban seemed to be trying to license up so much but so many of those dubs failed to even get out. Unfortunately, other countries were forced to use his English scripts and edited footage even after some had produced their own uncut dubs.
>>23040716>Most of the current crop are in their 50's and 60's but they've got early millenials too.Early millennials are in their 40s anon
>>23040716The way I've seen it from some Japanese fans years ago, Go-Lion and Dairugger XV won't have any Japanese releases because of that situation and notes about "there are still no home video".
>>23040719Wait, even in JAPAN, Golion and Dairugger can't get Japanese releases? Toei really fucked up there.
>>23040718Yeah you're right my bad. I mixed up boomers and millenials over the years they were born. I thought the 1st gen of millenials were early 90's not early 80's.
>>23040724Go-Lion's only gotten web streaming, but it is of special note that it's never had any video software and the Voltron rights situation is remarked upon.Dairugger XV is in a similar boat, only getting episodes streamed briefly on Bandai Spirits and never any home video release. Only the OPs and EDs have been acknowledged by Toei in their TV Hero Song collections.
>>23040738Maybe WEP will go under in the near future and Toei can scoop it back
>>23040724To be fair there’s not much of a market for it sinxe Japan doesn’t care much for Golion or Dairugger, I don’t think that Japanese dub for Voltron LD would exist if there were a lot of Golion fans.
>>23040741I've wondered the situation about the Bismark/Star Sheriffs licensing with Pierrot in that vein, but since Bismark got subs maybe WEP doesn't have as much a hold there.
>>23040744I saw both Golion and Dairugger. They're nothing special compared to VOTOMs or Dunbine which came out at that time but they're still fun to watch.
>>23040749Studio Pierrot probably had better lawyers and interpreters to make sure they didn't sign away rights like Toei did.
>>23040717Can you imagine the alternate universe where this became a full series?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA2VOuqaOnk
>>23040783Renaissance-Atlantic was associated with Saban somewhat,but that cracked out idea and the Saint Seiya pitches and others are all Frank Ward's doing.Guess after "Guardians of the Cosmos" didn't sell, they went with Toon Makers being a much cheaper studio than someone like Fred Wolf.
>>23040783...this actually looks kinda fun in a retarded way...Why is it a mix of live action and animation?
>>23040790Probably budget or weird experimental reasons. Guardians was all animated, then this seems to have been some hybrid deal before R-A's following pitches (Starstorm, Eagle Force, Team Angel, Revolution) were all live action exclusive ones.
>>23040788>Saint Seiya pitchesHow were they going to handle that?It kinda sucks that we got such a shit dub treatment of Saint Seiya with Knights of the Zodiac. My South American friends from college told me how Saint Seiya is insanely popular over there. It's practically the keystone to anime like how DBZ, Sailor Moon, and Pokemon was for turn-of-the-millennium Americans.
>>23040796There were two that were uncovered.>Guardians of the Cosmos: 1992 animated pilot by Fred Wolf Films. 90s cheese, Cloth designs accurate but everyone is super buff. The Pope is now Apollo as the top enemy.>Starstorm: 1995 live-action pilot done as a trailer. R-A trademarked all the Seiya names but maybe Toei got cold feet because everybody was renamed. Shun's counterpart is a hot blonde girl, Apollo counterpart is the Big Bad but unseen.Yeah it's a shame Seiya could never take off. Otaku were begging Viz in the early 90s to license the manga, and Frontier Enterprises dubbed some amount of it on behalf of Toei as a test deal that they pitched at NATPE in the late 80s. Only some clips from it survive on the Gold Collection VHSes, it was bad but still above DiC's nonsense.
>>23040803I'm kinda surprised the Hollywood adaptation of Saint Seiya was called Knights of the Zodiac. It was crap but I did like Mackenyu (he was very good as Enishi in the Rurouni Kenshin movie).
>>23040803gigachad shun is really funnybut i gotta give them props for actually keep his armor pinkunlike the other pitch that made shun a girl
>>23040810Why the fuck did Netflix make Shun a girl? Yeah his cloth was magenta pink and his motif is Andromeda, but not his fault that he got that. He's one of those pretty boy archetypes in Japanese fiction.
>>23040805The KOTZ branding predated DiC for other international dubs, and seems the original sinner was the AB Groupe for France. Some of the other dubs marketed by them for other countries even used versions of the song by Bernard Minet, though even that would have been better than Bowling For Soup in the USA.
>>23040817Blame Eugene Son. He said he wanted to add a girl for diversity, and didn't want to demote Marin or Shaina to Bronzes and he felt June was useless and nobody would care about her. So he took the most obvious of the guys, and created a whole shitstorm.One of the producers claimed Aphrodite was going to be made a woman too, to make her the token lady of the Gold Saints but they scratched that idea after the Andromeda Shaun backlash. So now Aphrodite is a twink that beats up on girls.
>>23040817I wonder what Latin Americans feel about that series considering how popular Saint Seiya is over there. I think they weren't pleased about who was cast as Seiya, I think it was an internet celebrity, though I guess Jesus Barrero would be hard to replace.
>>23040796I doubt Saint Seiya getting a good dub would have made a huge difference with DBZ existing, it’d likely get overshadowed.
>>23040832My Latin American friends HATED the Netflix adaptation. They even wondered why Americans are so goddamn retarded and can't accept Japanese culture like they do. The Latin Americans treat their dubs of anime and even tokusatsu with more respect than North Americans ever did. They actually appreciate the fact that Saint Seiya is made by Japanese with Japanese storytelling motifs because that's the whole point of watching another country's media.
It's kind of funny how both Saban and Harmony Gold tried to strike deals with Tatsunoko Pro to be the ones marketing their series in English, but both couldn't market them right.The whole rights fuckery with Speed Racer was even because somebody from Harmony Gold got the English rights and made his own company, and didn't let go of them when he was supposed to. You can trace so much evil back to Harmony Gold, if not Saban.
>>23040836Plus, there'd be the whole blood and gore matter some company would have had to get around even in the 90s. Maybe someone like Streamline could have tried to do a home video release, but TV deals are better and Streamline was on its last legs anyway. "Uncle Carl" couldn't do well with Nadia or other shows they tried releasing uncut, so it was doomed.
>>23040775No Pierrot just made better choices. Toei intentionally sold away all of Golion and Dairugger because it was worth more to the US than Japan. There was no lawyer tricks here, they knew what they were doing.
>>23040842>The whole rights fuckery with Speed Racer was even because somebody from Harmony Gold got the English rights and made his own company, and didn't let go of them when he was supposed to.https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/latest/2014/1/2/speed-racer-licensing-lawsuits-settledDo these dipshits truly believe they can get away with this and that Japanese companies WON'T sue them?
>>23040860Seriously, even Sandy Frank knew it was time to give the toys back when his rights to Gatchaman ran out. Thankfully he didn't pull some WEP or Voyager trick.
>>23040860They're used to the pre internet days where nobody knew enough to call them out on it.
>>23040863I saw bits of Battle of the Planets. I can't exactly fault that adaptation because no fucking way would 70's USA accept a hermaphrodite mutant fusion like Berg Katse. >>23040864I wonder what Speed Racer Enterprises' defense attorney tried to argue? Because you can't argue against an expiration date of a contract. Anyhow, I'm glad more of these shitheads are being put in their place.
>>23040860>Only thing with Speed Racer made during that time aside from the movie was a cartoon so mediocre that even having grown up watching it on Nicktoons didn’t make me care for itWhy did they even bother trying to keep the rights if they weren’t gonna do anything with them?
>>23040882Rights squatting. You hold it until somebody else can make a better product and you profit.
>>23040882I remember that show. I think I only saw two episodes. The only thing I remembered was that Speed's original voice actor voiced adult Spritle.
>>23040554>then we might as well remove itDo it.Your franchise is dead and irrelevant, no one wants to talk about this crap. Move on.
>>23040608Did Macek ever backtrack?
>>23040246>I saw that his costumes is wildly different in his own show as well.Not really? It definitely matches the Dairanger costumes a lot more than the Zyuranger costumes, especially in the aspect the Zyurangers wore their transformation devices on their belts while the buckle on the Dairanger costumes is just decoration.
>>23041159Can't find any evidence that he clarified himself later unless somebody can post a link or something
>>23041298Yeah it's to the Dairanger costumes to what Green Ranger is to the Zyuranger, ie basically the same thing but with chest armor and extra arm bits.
>>23040796>It's practically the keystone to anime like how DBZ, Sailor Moon, and Pokemon was for turn-of-the-millennium Americans.Those are anime keystones in Latin America too, with DBZ being the most popular by far.
>>23041423My older brother wanted to see the unedited DBZ episodes and we only had 56k back then so he watched Telemundo which aired uncut DBZ in Spanish. He was learning Spanish so it helped his studies; he was shocked at how different the scripts were from the Saban and later Funimation dubs which were written for retards.
>>23041437https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_DFJ-OXTzQ
>>23041458It's kinda funny how the Saban dubbing of this scene invokes even more Superman mythos than the original Japanese. Let's be frank, US kids are ADHD even back then and wouldn't have sat through a very good scientific explanation of Blutz waves that Vegeta went through.
>>23040586>PR is dead in the water. And PR has always been linked to sentai since Day 1. So take your fair warning elsewhere and I say this who loved growing up with RPM. This kind of autism doesn't do PR fandom any favors. Behave. And follow the rules.
>>23041524NTA but slag off. And this thread is pretty informative about licensing and adaptations from the past.
>>23040640It's still going onhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZFs0_9t6w8This is the CEO of Cleveland-Cliffs going off about Japan being evil and that Japan didn't learn anything since 1945 and beware. This is after the Nippon Steel deal got axed by Biden.
Watching PR is like watching a Godzilla movie dub. You only do because you can't understand Japanese or hate reading.
>>23041636Pretty sure that's why most people watch anime dubbed. That and maybe nostalgia for some series since I don't think subs were common in the 90s aside from maybe bootleg VHS tapes.
>>23041654My anime club in high school had Viz dubs of Ranma 1/2. It was actually kinda funny to see 90's dubbing.
>>23041524or what?
>>23040608>It proves that the US CAN make their own sentai-style production but they don't want to.I mean hell, CW DC shows are practically american tokusatsus
>>23041654I watch dubs because I have a job that gives me lots of leeway but also consumes most of my waking hours, so the only way I can catch up with most shows is to have them as basically a radioplay I occasionally look at in more high action sequences.
>>23040630dubbed media was considered cheap stuff used for filler back then. As cable got bigger and network TV started pushing it's new kid's TV blocks(Fox Kids, ABC's Disney afternoons, Kids WB), they tried to push for more (perceived) "quality" shows and execs felt that implied new,homegrown media. It's why the shift to more Americanized dubs went all in the 90's for TV dubs. Funny thing is, a lot of 60's/70's dubs could actually be pretty honest about being Japanese and use original names and even not edit as much. The '66 Ultraman dub is actually pretty faithful.
>>23041833I saw a bit of 4kids dub of Ultraman Tiga; how the fuck did they think that was an acceptable dub?
>>23041765I really enjoyed Starirl
>>23041576>>23041747Can you both stop? The rules say no Generals for canceled shows. We are lucky this thread is even allowed to exist right now. You pissed off the mods in the last thread after they warned you and they deleted the thread. You were probably banned for a few days too. So if they say no Super Sentai discussion then obey and follow the rules. Otherwise we will wake up tomorrow and thread will be gone.
>>23041833Frontier Enterprise dubs tended to be uncut from what I heard, even if they changed some character names to try to be more internationally-friendly. It's a shame a lot of them were likely wiped or lost, they did a full Voltes V series dub along with the movie compilation that was to get a TV deal in '86 but it fell through. Maybe it was that it didn't reach the proper syndicated amount of episodes.
>>23041840It was pretty much 4kids at the height of being 4kids. It failed pretty fast and only aired like a quarter of the show on TV, with the rest dubbed but being unseen until literally last year.They planned on dubbing more series but that naturally never happened.
early tommy is kind of fun, he's a goofy kid with brain is just 100% about fights and because of footage reasons he's always late to everything and always doing the same jump spin kick
>>23041853Yeah, wasn't the entire reason Robotech was made the way it was because, at least at the time, syndicated shows in the US required 65 episodes at minimum?
>>23041843>The rules say no Generals for canceled shows.What fucking rules? Symphogear's last season aired 5 years ago and /sgg/ is still getting regular threads, /otg/ is mostly about defunct Toku franchises, and there's a Brave general even though the last Brave show aired decades ago.If anything they should stop making stealth general threads and just outright reinstate /prg/ already.
>>23041869Yeah, that's also why Macek had Captain Harlock and Queen Millenia combined into one strange hybrid show. Saban did similar with GoShogun and Srungle to make Macron-1, but like with their Tekkaman Blade dubbing, they did two takes where the USA got the hybrid version while Europe got a slightly straighter version of GoShogun but still localized in the Saban way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHJQAlau7h0
So I'm watching second episode of Dairanger and Kaku said that BDSM ritual or whatever requires "innocent blood".Since Pink was abducted with a bunch of kids, does that mean that she's a virgin?
>>23042225You now remember that Agony in Pink exists.If you didn't know about it you're now going to look it up and suffer like we did in the 90s.
>>23042226Sounds like I don't want to look it up.Probably some guro manga that I don't need in my life.
This might come off as shilling, but Kingohger was everything I wanted the Rainbow Lantern Corps to be but failed to be, and everything I wanted Super Sentai to be.It's like a series that meets between /co/, /m/ and /a/.Super Sentai fans accuse Kingohger of trying to be capeshit and not true Sentai, and the Rainbow Lantern corps has always been a kinda shitty Power Rangers in the DCU.I don't know how else to advertise Kingohger to /co/ fans who vehemently hate Japanese shows other than it's "The Rainbow Lantern Corps done right, in a serialized story that spans 50 (+ Extra) episodes and a movie, that also kinda feels like Gurren Lagann but better"... if you can get over the non Hollywood budget and greenscreen.I think it's a must watch for /co/ who likes things slightly more light-hearted and any remaining fans of Power Rangers.
>>23042236>google Kingohger>they actually all have capes
>>23041843>Otherwise we will wake up tomorrow and thread will be gone
>>23042225Stop watching TVNihon subs. Jesus christ.How are people still watching those?
There's literally a thread about imaginary shows on /m/ right now, yet Power Rangers shitposting somehow crosses the line
>>23042225Not Power Ranger related.
Hmm...I don't get you people. You've had 3 PR threads deleted already in the last month. But you insist on making more Power Rangers thread, but not actually talking about Power Ranger topics in them.Nothing about your favorite Power Ranger shows. Nothing about your favorite Ranger props or designs. Nothing about your favorite Ranger battles or megazord fights. Nothing about visiting Ranger conventions. Nothing about cosplaying as Rangers. Nothing about your favorite Ranger actors or actresses. Not even waifu posting or arguing about the hottest ranger waifu. You literally talk about Sentai. Wtf? Oh and I guess also how much Super Sentai is better than Power Rangers despite warnings? What drives you people to do this? What is your end game here? Do you really have nothing else going on in your life? Is >>23040554 really speaking the truth about how most of the thread is just one person speaking to themselves? Oh man if that's true, I feel really sorry for the guy doing this. There's so much more to life than this. This thread could be so much more.
>>23042248What's wrong with them? It's the one with most seeders so it downloaded fast.>>23042383White Ranger is based on KibaRanger, so it's directly related.>>23042402Oh no! It's not another gundam thread about some random ass inconsequential female character that has no value outside of fap content! /m/ is ruined!
>>23042448Stop trying to sneak a PR general through. These attempts are getting sad.
>>23042402It just shows how fleeting PR truely is. The only fans left care purely about getting more stuff and bitching that they probably won't anymore vs the people who hate the franchise because it cockblocks Sentai and cheer it's demise. Nobody actually enjoys the material that's out anymore, the fans are more concerned about the new stuff that isn't coming and the next future Tommy appearance that isn't happening because he's fucking dead. It's actually a great example on how the "Consume product and get excited for next product" mentality has fucked with fandoms because it all becomes a temporary flash in the pan and what happens when there's no next product to look forward to. Nobody wants to discuss or care about the old stuff anymore. In fact I'm starting to suspect PR fans only followed the last decade's worth of material in hopes of getting their big MMPR revival return which is now impossible because of the actors being too old, too disgraced or too dead. And even the stuff we got with Once and Always and Cosmic Fury people were only meh on because Tommy wasn't in them. JDF really was the major part of the franchise people were interested in and now that he's gone the franchise is dying with him.
>>23041843>Otherwise we will wake up tomorrow and thread will be gone.Good. Not enough people care about your show to sustain a thread anyway
>>23042402>Nothing about your favorite Ranger props or designsThis one is tricky because vast majority if them are Sentai, and if we wanna talk about original US stuff, nost of them would be about Titanium Ranger or how absolutely terrible the Boom designs are.
>>23042248I'd rather watch TV-N than fucking Over-Translate.
>>23042604Exactly and even some of the Ranger fights are from Sentai.The wholly PR-exclusive footage and props can ve discussed but those are limited compared to the stuff they take from sentai.
>>23042549Anybody know how things are at Rangerboard and the PR subreddit?
>>23042236I think this is a cool idea. What's the problem with emulating cape comics?>>23042549Generally PR fans are in 6 camps:1) Die-hard MMPR fanboys who are as obnoxious as other toxic fandoms. These are also the Tommy worshipers and can't move on from it.2) Fans of Zeo, Turbo, and Space which finally went past MMPR and into different waters. I can respect how Turbo transitioned into Space because everything went wrong for them. 3) Post-Space in the 1st Saban era. These are your Lost Galaxy, Lightspeed Rescue, Time Force (Ransik is a great villain. Especially when the actor played the villain from 1985's Commando with Schwarzenegger) or Wild Force (especially Forever Red) fans. These seasons are overlooked compared to the early PR seasons since by that time most of the fans got older and moved on or they didn't want to watch it anymore since the familiar actors were gone. 4) Disney era: From Ninja Storm to RPM. This is the new generation of fans who didn't grow up with the Saban era or only caught the tail-end of it. Lots of people hate on Disney but some series has its fans like Ninja Storm, Dino Thunder (return of Tommy Oliver), and RPM. The others are a mixed bag. 5) 2nd Saban era: This is where Haim took back the rights and did Samurai to Super Ninja Steel. This is the 2010s generation of kids being introduced to PR. Some of the vanguard of 90's kids eagerly saw these seasons because they thought it was a return to the glory days. This is also when they really kiddified PR because it was on Nickelodeon. 6) Hasbro era: Beast Morphers to Cosmic Fury. And now the franchise is stillborn because Hasbro can't be bothered with it. Not sure about the fandom here.
>>23042533I'm not a PR fan but this thread is a pretty good convo about American localizations since that's what PR is all about.
>>23042259I only stumbled across PR threads since last fall but what were PR generals like before Cosmic Fury ended and news of Hasbro not doing anymore?
>>23041597FacepalmYeah this is gonna help US-Japan relations even more. Biden already pissed Japan off when he said, "they were a security risk" by blocking Nippon Steel from buying US Steel. Real great way to treat an ally. >“This acquisition would place one of America’s largest steel producers under foreign control and create risk for our national security and our critical supply chains,” Biden said. https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/06/business/us-steel-biden-japan-nippon/index.htmlStuff like this is going to eventually convince Japanese companies to not license to the US because they'll be sick of our shit.
>>23042259People like this >>23035746 want to be mods so bad they backseat mod this thread with imaginary rules like "You can't talk about shows that ended" even though that's more than half this board. Notice how they're always here less than an hour posted to regurgitate the same crap that we can only watch Sentai (when I watch both) or it's against "da rules".It's got to be some severe mental illness to devote so much of your energy towards a show you don't like. He/they were here before the show ended years ago. It's simply embarrassing.
>>23042674Where would fans of the comics fall?
>>23042767Not familiar with the comics but are they good? What does the general Fandom think?
>>23042770At first it was a nice addition to the story, since it progressed in some areas where the show didn't do much, like the development of Terra Venture, backstories of some beloved characters or even villains.Then, some people got tired of MMPRwanking, since most comics after Shattered Grid went around MMPR seasons 1 and 2, or a bunch of OCs based on MMPR, or crossovers... with suit designs too similar to MMPR.
>>23042764NTA while I think PR hatred is retarded and sentai worship is cringe, what >>23042549 says is true. PR threads are really regurgitating what autismo fans said in the past without real discussions like Zordon's past like how he trained Gosei or how he neglected to disclose the United Alliance of Evil and Dark Spector to all his Ranger teams.PR is fine for it's time and there's merit in talking about it like the Morphin Grid mythos. But clinging on to it is a lot like Robotech fanatics who are sperglords of the highest order.
>>23042783MMPRwanking is why PR will never be taken seriously. A pity that the comics can't break free of this.
>>23042680There was truly good convos on how /m/ theorized how sentai would br adapted for PR. Like Go-Busters bring tailor made for PR but was passed over. Also /prg/ veterans back in 2009 have long moved on by now.
>>23042791I was pretty surprised that the second Godzilla crossover added Astronema and the Psycho Rangers.
>>23042795Godzilla and PR???? And why is Karone evil again?
>>23042796Two crossovers. Both mainly involve Mighty Morphin. So, Astronema teamed up with Rita in the second one.
>>23042787>But clinging on to it is a lot like Robotech fanatics who are sperglords of the highest order.What's disturbing is that 10 year ago, the average Robotecher was at least 40 years of age. There are PR fanboys who are that age now if not older.I'm curious what the state of Robotech fandom is even like after Studio Nue and Big West finally settled the whole rights mess.
>>23042806Has anything been done with Robotech recently? Last thing I remember is those Titan Comics.
>>23042809Probably more rumors of Tobey Maguire making a live action movie even though HG has no right to do that and he got duped into it. >>23042767I viewed the comics as supplementary material. Not necessary but a nice addition to flesh out ideas and backstory. Generally comic fans are also one of 1 category of fans listed.
>>23042811>Tobey MaguireI think he's a bit too old to be a good Hikaru now.
>>23042813You mean Rick Hunter and yeah Tobey is too old. He dropped out of it. https://kotaku.com/robotech-macross-movie-canceled-concept-art-live-action-1850546078So they're gonna try again but I hope there isn't an adaptation of SDF Macross. They have no right to use it, but they can adapt Southern Cross or Mospeada which only has a few fans compared to the vast majority of the 1st Gen storyline.
>>23042806Holy shit, I just went on their official website. Their forums are full of spam. LOL goes to show you that they really don't give a fuck. https://robotech.com/forums
>>23042821Oh shit all of the Macross franchise except for the original SDF anime and DYRL is going to be on Disney+ and Huluhttps://www.hulu.com/series/macross-plus-73654f14-c9ac-40d6-bc78-fcaf9a968566https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2025/01/11/after-a-very-long-wait-multiple-macross-anime-are-coming-to-hulu/
>>23039482Season 1 had no real props or replicas to work with, and they didn't have nip stuntmen back then so needed suits that would fit the bulkier american actors/stuntmen. It's the same reason the american Dragon Ranger suit had the cheap cloth instead of whatever fabric the japanese version was because it was easier for the actors to move in.
>>23035746Do people think they're going to get paid if they mention Sentai in a Power Rangers thread? Have they worked out some special deal with Toei? Like how little must they have going on in their own life to intentionally go into a thread where people are saying "I like this show" for no other reason than to go "YEAH WELL THIS OTHER SHOW EXISTS TOO"?
>>23042856>muh Sentai Internet Defense ForceIt's a troll shitposting to get a rise out of you. Or a purist. Regardless of which, it doesn't matter.
>>23035746>>23035724i liked Rock tunes and hot pink rangers.Kamen Rider USA was terrible. could have made a dark n edgy Kamen Rider Kuro, sountracked by Robert Smith.
>>23040246>Is Dairanger good?God, no. I can go into more spoiler-y detail if you'd like, but I was really excited to finally see Dairanger when I got the Shout Factory set, and it was one of the most frustrating and disappointing things I've ever seen.>How does it compare to MMPR?Season 2 of MMPR is roughly 80% awful and it's still better than Dairanger.
>>23042860The final showdown was pretty kino despite Dai being a meh series. Kakuranger, Ohranger (before the Tokyo sarin gas made them do a 180), and Carranger are way better.
>>23040630>back then that some execs seriously believed people wouldn’t be interested in a cartoon from a foreign country.USA made a couple of decent Guyver movies, but they flopped?
>>23042402>but not actually talking about Power Ranger topics in them.We would actually love to discuss Power Rangers-related topics, but it's kind of hard to do so when we've got trolls screeching about Sentai every other post.
>>23042866They made 2 and they were treated as B-movie schlock (and I'm being generous here). I wish we could get a proper live action Guyver adaptation. >>23042867Then we need mods and janitors to enforce that any thread pertaining to PR has 0 mention of sentai. This also comes from the posters who wan to talk about PR because they can't mention the sentai season that such-and-such corresponds to if they want to wonder why the plot was written that way or why something didn't get resolved.
>>23042783>>23042791>MMPRwankingIt didn't even MMPRwank in an entertaining way. By the end of it, it was focusing more on Matt than on Tommy, made Rita the super special snowflake villain who outmatched Lord Zedd and Master Vile, refuse to let Drakkon and the Omega Rangers go, absolutely refused to move on to Season 3... It was fucking ridiculous.>>23042796She's not evil again, it takes place when she's still Astronema. And she was completely out of place in the story.
>>23042870I legit feel sorry for serious PR fans that their fandom is ruined by the cancer of MMPR. You move on and let go of the previous installment as a sign of being a sensible person and not an aspie.
>>23042864I agree that Kakuranger and Ohranger are better (though I'd say that Ohranger is still better even after the 180), but honestly, I'd argue that even Zyuranger is better. It may not have reinvented the wheel, but it knew what it was and it did it well. There was no stupid frustrating bullshit like what happened in Dairanger every other episode.
>>23042875>though I'd say that Ohranger is still better even after the 180It's just that a series that started off with an apocalyptic premise of an alien invasion and JSDF members becoming sentai heroes (notice that Toei never did a military-theme again. Changeman and Ohranger were the last time soldiers could be depicted) then it goes off into wacky nonsensical stuff made it bit annoying. I still shed manly tears at that episode where Oh Blue befriended that guy who wasn't a villain but got turned into 1. And I shat bricks at the episode with the cactus brothers...
>>23042787If you feel that way, then let the autists be autists and leave.
>>23042236Kingohger sucks, faggot.
>>23042868>Then we need mods and janitors to enforce that any thread pertaining to PR has 0 mention of sentai.They have. They deleted several PR threads already. But apparently one or two users *insist* on remaking the threads and discussing Sentai. They want to treat this thread like a chat room about sentai. You don't understand the mod team. They are regular posters. They don't want to monitor and babysit threads 24/7. (desu It's embarrassing to have to babysit 30 and 40 old men throwing a fit). They will give warnings. But eventually of a line is crossed enough, they will just delete the thread and prevent more being made. We are lucky this thread is allowed by the Mods to exist right now. Yet some users want to push their luck over and over again.
>>23042236Kingohger rules, herero.
>>23042867Didn't the jannies say the majority of sentai posts here was just one person who is replying to himself over and over again? They can see IP addresses afterall.
>>23042902The majority of posts here talk about Saban, Harmony Gold, Frank Patten, Sandy Frank, Saint Seiya, WEP, Golion, Dairugger, Voltron: Legendary Defender, Speed Racer more than sentai. I never even knew half the things about earlier US localization until this thread. Also the OP just blatantly made a generic PR thread without any substance. They could've at least discussed something like the various methods Zordon infused power into his Rangers or something.
>>23042873the comics aren't mainly targeted at PR fans, they tried and there's just not enough buying comics. Most American comic buyers who go to shops are 35+ and so are more nostalgic for MMPR if anything.The Time Force or Disney season fans just aren't buying(and even then, they do try and throw a bone with some things)
>>23042955>Most American comic buyers who go to shops are 35+My local shop stocked up on manga and anime after years of resisting. I told the owner when I was in high school that he should jump on that niche but he dismissed it. Way back in 2018, he finally opened up his shop to manga/anime as well as other Japanese imports and made more money than he ever did just selling US comics. He also started importing French and other Euro graphic novels too. In Barnes & Noble, comics might have a shelf or two while manga and anime have an entire section. Not to mention toys and models. >more nostalgia for MMPR if anythingNot to look down on these people, but I grew up watching Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. I loved it, but then it got cancelled in favor of Avengers Assemble. Now I missed EMH a lot but I kept an open mind and watched Assemble because things change whether you like it or not. Nostalgia is truly the cancer of creativity. I mean I enjoyed the Indiana Jones trilogy as a kid, but then I discovered the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles and loved it even more. I didn't care for Crystal Skull or the 5th one (I only watched the WW2 flashback somebody uploaded on Youtube, in fact why didn't they just make a movie about Indy doing that?). I don't want to see Harrison Ford play Indiana Jones as an old man. The same when he was Han Solo in The Force Awakens.
This thread is now about Power Ranger waifu. Post them.Ignore any haters.
>>23042448>What's wrong with them?The "translator" doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. 90% of his shit is flat out wrong.
>>23042448
>>23043044>>23043047>crop tops and jean-shorts, crop tops and jean-shorts everywhereWe had it so good in the 90s my dudes
>>23042969That's a nice sentiment, but even when the comics try and throw a bone at later series the fans don't really show up. Not even to order the books off Amazon
>>23043055>>23043058
>>23042868>Then we need mods and janitors to enforce that any thread pertaining to PR has 0 mention of sentai.Shit Linkara posts on /m/?
>>23042907There was a thread where a lot of posts were deleted with many acting like different people. It all happened at once, if they were different people there would be periods where only some of the spam was deleted.The guy is mentally ill, I don't know why he cares so much that people watch a show.
>>23043104Dang, Linkara must need a new gig then.
>>23042787It really just comes down to PR's mythos not being that deep and having so little to do with each other (Lightspeed through Dino Charge basically had zero connection with anything previous or with each other beyond the occasional team up with the sole exception of Dino Thunder because of Tommy) that there's really no deep lore discussions to be heard. Not enough autists care about it. And at the risk of bringing up Sentai AGAIN even in those threads the topics are usually just the current airing series, of which Power Rangers has none, and what's coming next year and/or what potential returns on special TTFC stuff might be happening of which again Power Rangers has nothing. The Kamen Rider threads at least have people talking about old stuff, Sentai and PR not so much. The anon above was right, PR was stuck on on Get excited for next product for so long that now that there is no next product most of the discussion has died. It's mostly just one guy stealth generating it and getting mad when people talk about Sentai because he's mad his show is over. But sometimes you need to let things go. PR just wasn't good enough to talk about it long after it's over.
>>23042969I think the difference is with Marvel and DC stuff it's the same characters so even if they're a new take on them there's some familiarity there, vs PR having a whole new cast of characters in a completely new setting.
>>23035724>>23039261>>23039286VR Troopers is much funnier as far as chopjobs go. >Tries to adapt two unrelated series into a team show, resulting the leader and his mates splitting up every episode>Crew didn't have any of the monster suits, except for the Season 2 generals>Half-baked Virtual Reality element>Said leader overacts in every action scene(Spielban is fairly boring, but Metalder's pretty good - I especially appreciate how it humanizes the antagonists and treats them as one big army.)
>>23043051Uhhh examples? In 2 episodes I haven't seen anything wrong.>>23043053>>23043047>>23043071I dunno, I don't find her particularly cute or hot. There was this one episode where she participated in gymnastics competition, and 2nd place girl was so nice I actually fapped.Can't be assed to look her up though, she's old as shit now anyway.
>>23043184Oh god this shitI hated the battle grid in tight spandex. Metalder was basically an 80s reimagination of Kikaider. It was pretty good but the ending was such a downer.
>>23043190Same here. I liked Cassie the Pink Turbo/Space Ranger and Ashley the Yellow Turbo/Space Ranger more. I actually know AJJ from the Felicity show that my sister watched.
>>23040608Stuff like this is why I don't buy the whole line that Cadl Macek wanted to bring anime and he was a fan. If not lying, he's deliberately spouting obtuse truths. I notice there's been an uptick of his fans apologizing for him and saying he should be venerated as an anime pioneer. Sorry I grew up with Gundam Wing and Ronin Warriors on Toonami which kept the Japanese scripts and even music intact. Not to mention actually crediting the Japanese creators properly. I don't have to kiss his ring.
>>23043116I thought he likes PR?
>>23043190Stop posting on /m/, Takenoko.
>>23043202What has Linkara and everyone been up to? I haven't seen Channel Awesome since 2015?
>>23043199>ronin warriors>kept the japanese script
>>23043204I'm not your local celebrity I'm sorry.
>>23043208No one considers Takenoko a celeb.
>>23043207They managed to keep it closer to Samurai Troopers despite changing names, adding in the character of Hariel to explain the Kikoutei armor, and other minor stuff. For a mid 90s dub of anime, Robin Warriors was pretty good. They even retained blood and partial nudity.
>>23043214So they didn't keep the Japanese script.Thanks for agreeing with me.
>>23043206Everyone quit the site after it was revealed Jewwario was grooming people and the Walkers covered it up. Plus other poor treatment from the asshole site owner. They all went independent. The only ones left were Doug himself, Snob (who decided to remain loyal to the Walkers out of friendship) and Guru Larry (who remained out of spite because the site ignored him the entire time he was there) until around last year when the whole site finally died out.
>>23043215Oh for fuck's sake I'm not gonna fault them for not having an exact fucking word for word translation but I watched Ronin Warriors and saw Yoroiden Samurai Troopers. Overall, RW paid closer attention to what the Japanese originals said than what was typically done back then.
>>23042860Dairanger was ruined by certain reveals at the end.
>>23043217I accept your apology for being wrong.
>>23043216>Jewwario was grooming peopleDamn. I remember hearing about Jewwario committing suicide but didn't know about that. Actually liked Channel Awesome because Doug's Twilight Zone and Batman the Animated Series reviews were comfy.
>>23043206Does it really matter?
>>23043222Just curious. I used to go to Chanel Awesome in high school from 2008 until I was in college in 2015 and then stopped.
>>23043209Whose Takenoko?
>>23043228Lurk moar.
>>23043221That's heavily thought to be WHY he committed suicide in the first place. He was worried it would get out
>>23043184I wonder what the kids thought of the fact that the VR troopers never actually fight together as a team throughout the entire show.
>>23043244I was a kid back then and I did find that curious but never quite made the connection. I assumed it was an American made show like every show
>>23043184Don't forget this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8_HrVhnqNg
>>23043244The same thing when Tommy was always held up before joining the other Rangers in Season 1 of MMPR due to Burai not leaving his chamber thus limiting footage
>>23043192>(Metalder) was pretty good but the ending was such a downerThe final battle was pretty underwhelming, but I didn't mind Metalder getting robbed of his powers.My interest in tokusatsu petered out very quickly because it's a much narrower field than mecha anime, though I'll probably watch a legit Sentai at some point (already grabbed Jetman because it seems to have a good balance between camp and melodrama).
>>23043199I think he enjoyed the material and saw the art of it, but also had the realities of working for hire in the 80's on a niche product that needed to be sold.Him rewriting the material to try and create a new narrative does come off as self-aggrandizing, since theoretically they could've just presented it as separate shows in an anthology just fine, I don't think he was trying to erase the Japanese creators intentionally, trying to present it as a western product was the cost of doing business. Keep in mind most of the appreciation for Macek comes more for his post HG work where he was doing arguably more faithful dubs than even the Toonami stuff you were watching. Hell that early wave of William Street programmers were fanboys who were watching 80's dubs as kids.
>>23043255Not to mention, the reason a lot of the other Saban Tokusatsu didn't last very long was because they ran out of stock footage to use. Especially when stuff like Kamen Rider didn't have any new shows at the time.
>>23043276Yeah but by the 2000s he couldn't just openly say, "Yeah Macross was great because of Kawamori, Ishiguro, and all the other men who made it"He comes off incredibly slimey and when confronted,"Oh I never said that Japanese didn't make it" despite earlier interviews have him imply they were merely hired to do work.I don't fault him for writing together 3 separate series together and the dubbing is decent. I've heard of his work at Streamline but I'm more familiar with how he handled ADV's release of Dunbine, it was a joke.
>>23043288I'm actually glad Kamen Rider was on hiatus because I fucking hated Masked Rider.
>>23043244the whole "Battle grid" segments and the cockpit set in the giant jet were made to pull attention away from that.
>>23042969Wokeness is destroying Hollywood and they're starting to scale back. Even corporations are limiting DEI.
>>23042821I think they all migrated to Robotech X but that place is sorta dead too>>23042831Glad we finally have this
>>23043295>Yeah but by the 2000s he couldn't just openly say, "Yeah Macross was great because of Kawamori, Ishiguro, and all the other men who made it"By the 2000's he mostly had moved on and was doing other stuff, not regularly employed by HG(although he did return for some 2000's attempts at rebooting). I'm not sure how regularly he was being interviewed around the time, but social media wasn't as active for soundbites from people back then and most interviews would be more about what he was currently working on, or about the production process for Robotech.>He comes off incredibly slimey and when confronted,"Oh I never said that Japanese didn't make it" despite earlier interviews have him imply they were merely hired to do work.If you mean that earlier interview posted, I see it more as him trying to give the most basic explanation he could give for a public access show.
>>23043326He talked shit about Macross plenty of times which you can find about however thinks the plot is inferior to his treatment. I'm sorry but he didn't animate anything or create anything from scratch. He was a translator.
>>23043298Everyone did.
>>23043335I'm sure there's a few Saban bootlickers who will defend it because of childhood nostalgia or some crap
>>23043333I'm not super well versed on his Robotech work, so I'll try to find examples. If you have any you'd want to share I'd be open minded, though I do think you're coming at this with some bias so you might find so you might be seeing what he says more negative than intended.(I'm a Macross fan myself so I should be pretty biased towards HG myself, and I find their continued existence sad, but honestly it's had little effect on me watching Macross or buying a few thousands of dollars worth of figures. So I've mostly been apathetic)
>>23042906What did you just call me you slack jawed tanuki?
Hot take: MMPR didn't find itself until the Zyu2 stuff started. Also, ya'll niggas are posting in a Duel thread.
>>23043044cassie is cute
>>23043184I have a soft spot for masked rider
>loli in anime>cute and funny uoh>loli irl and live action>abhorrent goblin I want to burn alive and listen it screech
>>23043505You need to find better lolis.Human form Luna was really cute in live action Sailor Moon.
>>23043514>live action Sailor MoonLemme guess, 14 yo girls are played by 20+ yo hags?Pass.
>>23043518No.Japan doesn't do that. That's an American thing.
>>23043524Well maybe after I finish Dairanger.
>>23043518Nah, they were all actual teens at the time of filming. Except Luna, who was 10-11.
>>23043295Harmony Gold apparently did an older pilot dub of Dunbine that got screened to some fanclubs in the 80s, but it's long been lost. The Library of Congress does have some ad material from it though, showing it was to be re-titled Aura Knights. I guess when Macek joined ADV for a time, he figured why not try again.
>>23043403Oh yeah, that's definitely when the "MMPR plot formula" was perfected. A Ranger has a problem, Rita makes a monster based on said problem, etc. There were a few small things we lost from the Zyu footage era of MMPR that I wish were kept around longer, though. Things like Zordon speaking to the Rangers out of thin air as opposed to via their communicators, the Rangers being dicks in response to when Bulk and Skull would mess with them, the Rangers just knowing there's a threat and grabbing their Morphers and morphing immediately instead of posing and declaring "IT'S MORPHIN' TIME!" etc.
>>23043760>the Rangers just knowing there's a threat and grabbing their Morphers and morphing immediately instead of posing and declaring "IT'S MORPHIN' TIME!"elaborate
>>23043614Well you can't teach an old dog new tricks. His dubbing might have been acceptable in the 80s and 90s but not the 2000s when anime dubbing was more professional.
>>23043346Even Kawamori isn't happy with Robotech>In America, they have a modified version of Macross, which is called Robotech. Nowadays, there are a lot of people who are fans of Robotech without knowing that Macross exists. How do you feel about it?>S. Kawamori: I don’t understand, nor do I accept the fact that they took and modified my work without even asking. I can not comprehend how a pirated version like this exists. However, I feel I was very fortunate that many other people from other countries around the world were able to see Macross.>Harmony Gold has a lot of new project around Robotech in America. I think they are working on a new movie, for example, do you take any credits from the American Robotech works?>S. Kawamori: I don’t want to talk about it. Please support the official Macross releases.https://fullfrontal.moe/kawamori-40-interview/There's other interviews with him where he's not happy how Ishiguro, Itano, Mikimoto and everyone else who worked on SDF Macross never got credited. So fuck HG and fuck Macek.
>>23044031And then you have these revisionist apologist fags making excuses for himhttps://www.animeherald.com/2024/01/20/actually-carl-macek-rocked-why-the-north-american-anime-fandom-owes-him-its-gratitude/He "credited" the Japanese. What a swelling guy....except no mention of anyone from Studio Nue and Artland. But obviously the writer either doesn't know about them or he does and is playing dumb.
>>23043911See also Saban and Glitter Force. For shame.
>>23043776Some times in early episodes, the Rangers would just grab their Morphers and morph without doing the big reaching-behind-the-back pose and shouting "It's Morphin' Time!"
>>23043524Well sometimes they do, but in this case they were actual teens although most of them were a year or two older than 14. On the other hand some Japanese women can actually pull it off, like Tsumuri and Aguilera from Rider who despite being in their mid 20s looked younger than the actual teenage girls in their cast.
>>23041298>Not really?Don't be a faggot
>>23044038Some websites really forget how reviled that "Uncle" Carl was and how Usenet Macross fans and others rued his name all the time. It became in vogue to blame him for other bastardizations like Warriors of the Wind simply because it seemed like something he would do.One forum that seemed to disappear into the ether once had an old-school otaku claiming he farted in Macek's face at a 90s con and called him a filthy bastard. True or not, it goes to show what the general reactions to him were.
Please stay on topic. If it is not directly related to Power Rangers, then use the appropriate thread. This thread is for direct Power Ranger discussion only.
>>23044472>One forum that seemed to disappear into the ether once had an old-school otaku claiming he farted in Macek's face at a 90s con and called him a filthy bastard. True or not, it goes to show what the general reactions to him were.Okay that's retarded. It's as bad as that robotech fan who pied Tommy Yune in the face. Don't like someone? That's within your rights but don't be an assclown like those 2 shitheads.
Do you guys think PR has a chance to be revived as a novel series like Robotech with Luceno and Daley?
>>23044482There is no topic here just the PRfag desperately trying to keep his series threads alive.
>>23041843Why should anyone give a fuck about the rules?
>>23043505>>23043514>>23043518>>23043524>>23043529Sentai fans, everyone.
>>23042533Why do you even care about that? If they want a general, that's fine. Stop being such a pussy.
>>23044537The rules that are written nowhere forbid it dummy
>>23044519Honestly, I found the discussions about localization more interesting.
>>23044533You are a grown man who types like that? Cringe.
>>23044491Yeah, exactly. Some other bonehead was claiming he set a Mickey Mouse doll on fire to protest the Americanization of Dirty Pair by Adam Warren. Wish I could've screencapped those claims for some "that happened" sarcasm or showing just how outlandish and tough guy some sorts wanted to act.
>>23044519Linkara needs to stay relevant in the recession, otherwise he'll make Teen Titan threads on the comic board.
>>23044650>Some other bonehead was claiming he set a Mickey Mouse doll on fire to protest the Americanization of Dirty Pair by Adam Warren. Why? What does Mickey Mouse have to do with Dirty Pair?
>>23044534Super Sentai lives rent free in PRfags brains.
>>23044482
You can tell by the writing style of these posts that it's the same guy talking to himself. He even makes the same spelling mistakes in multiple posts. This is just sad.
>>23044725This thread is basically a science experiment of seeing one guy desperately trying to keep his thread alive. The problem is he makes it too obvious.It's same 3 topics over and over again (the stuff he only likes) and he's not willing to change it up.Better to let the thread die.
>>23044683>>23044673>>23044669>>23044651>>23044650>>23044538>>23044537>>23044533Your memes are old grandpa.
>>23044740You know what they say.Old = goodNew = bad
Reading this thread makes me wonder how people will react to Haim Saban's death. Will he have fan tributes?
>>23044768I'm throwing a party when Saban dies.
>>23044737Is it Drool?>>23044768Lots of celebrating, maybe some people trying to say he wasn't that bad, maybe an ironic fancam.
>>23043339>no one is doing something for me to get mad at so I am going to imagine them doing it anyways so I can get mad
>>23045063NTA but he was right.see >>23043474
>>23044808>maybe some people trying to say he wasn't that badI don't judge people harshly but I never heard a good thing about Saban and lots of stories where he's a colossal prick. /m/ might even have a sticky the day he croaks just to contain the hate.
>>23044503I heard the RT novels tried to salvage the lore mess. Honestly I'm even surprised PR was allowed to have comics. They even had young adult novels of VR Troopers that my brother had in the 90s.
>>23044503Probably not. It sounds like if they really do try to do anything else with it they want a new reboot continuity so them doing novels off the old lore is unlikely.
>>23044787The MMPR actors might feel the same.
>>23044737You will never be a mod or janny.
>>23045710Man the cheap fuck couldn't even afford to give them a bump in pay? It'd only cost him another ivory backscratcher. Also the bashing that Yost endured is all on Saban too for not keeping that shit out.
>>23045680Why don't they do prequels? Like Zordon's early warriors?
>>23045803Because nobody but two autists care about those and their main goal is to being a new generation of kids onto the franchise who don't have the baggage of the older group.
>>23045802I get Saban making all the worst business decisions but is he really responsible for on-set shenanigans
>>23044614Shut up you little faggot.
>>23044740Pick a side.
Look at that. We reached bump limit AGAIN! That was fun, see you all at the next one, and the next one, etc.PS: Anyone mini modding this thread or vouching for fake rules or saying we shouldnt have threads will never be a mod or janny. Deal with it and get a job and a life.
>>23045928Saban is the head honcho. Yost probably voiced his complaints to him or at least someone high up the ladder. He ultimately bears responsibility for what happens on set because that's command responsibility.
>>23046046>Deal with it and get a job and a life.ROFLMAO!! Where do you think we are?
>>23046057>It's ok for me to be a loser because we are ALL losers equally!Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>23045597Never forget the Kiss cartoon incident
>>23046104There was a KISS cartoon?
>>23045802They wasted no time. There was only 10 days between their last shoot and beginning the casting calls. The new guys didn't even know they were replacing anyone, it was just advertised for "new rangers".
>>23046161Not to mention, when the actors did leave, they used either stock footage or sound alikes to cover it up until the new guys came in. Also, how they kept splitting the team into groups of three. Jason, Zack, and Trini were always together even before the "Peace Conference" thing.
>>23046123>A classic Hollywood story involves Gene Simmons of Kiss. In the late ’90s, as co-owner of the Fox Family Channel, Saban was developing shows for children. Simmons, the fire-breathing, blood-spitting frontman of a rock band in costumes and face paint, pitched Saban an idea for a new Saturday-morning cartoon: Kiss meets X-Men, the Marvel comics superhero team. Saban liked the concept well enough to convene a meeting with Avi Arad, then C.E.O. of Marvel’s toy division.>At the appointed time, Saban, Arad, and Simmons sat down. The meeting was going well, and the three began to haggle over numbers. Then Saban turned to Arad and, referring to Simmons, confided in Hebrew, “Now we gut him like a fish.” Without missing a beat, Simmons—who, unbeknownst to Saban, was born Chaim Witz in Haifa, Israel—replied in Hebrew, “You asshole. I’m one of you.”
>>23046177I noticed the group splitting as a kid and that they never interacted with their replacements. What I didn't know is the actors weren't on the show and they hid it with voice actors, doubles with hidden faces and archive footage. Anyway, here's what they looked like, I don't think anyone has info on who these actors were.
>>23046277Yeah, Once and Always was the first time Walter Jones was onscreen with those guys. Unfortunately, Thuy Trang never got that chance.
>>23046285"those guys" meaning the new team, not the doubles right?
>>23046305Yes.
>>23046265He really is /pol/'s wet dream
ian mcshane playing haim saban in saban biopic
>>23046285Seeing Zack and Rocky fight together was a bit surreal.
>>23046265At least Gene didn't give up on his cartoon endeavors.
>>23046285>>23046305>>23046414I'm still mad AJJ couldn't just play nice for, what was it? Ten days? I love Kat/Catherine as much as the next guy, but when the plot is "the Rangers avenge the death of Trini" you really need as many of the OG Rangers as you can get on the team or else the whole angle is completely pointless.
>>23047610there was also jdf
>>23047623At least with JDF it was a clear "No." AJJ just gave that bullshit "I said yes and no simultaneously tee-hee-hee!" instead of just being a grown woman and saying "I didn't want to."
>>23046067Don't throw stones in glass houses.
>>23046734Oh yeah. This show. I think I only saw the intro.
