So the pre-UC Gundam world was dominated by the Japanese, right? That is why Japanese is the lingua franca in the UC world on Earth and with the Spacenoids.Kinda makes sense if Japan was on track to exceed the United States in the late 80s instead of stagnating in the 90s onward.I feel like they'd move toward the same Federation Neo-Feudalism sink hole.
>>23037034Isn't the charter literally written in English?
Japanese is the lingua franca in the UC because Gundam is made in Japan and targeted largely for the Japanese, so it makes sense to be written and spoken in the native language. It has nothing to do with the in-universe demographics.
another alternate history way to look at it is, what if Japan won the Cold War instead of the US or the USSR? Like they just started dominating in tech and economics, so in order to prevent a full Japanese globalistic takeover, they said "Let's all move into Space" and just created Neo-Feudalism between the multicultural Earthnoid Elite and the multicultrual Spacenoid Masses.
>>23037034Yeah and ancient Rome's lingua franca was English because that's what they speak in all the shows and movies, right?
English is the lingua franca, everyone speaks Japanese in the anime because it's made for a Japanese audience but every time text is shown in UC it is using English. It is amazing how fucking retarded and unimaginative Gundam fans are.
>>23037043Just run with it.Assume that in world, they are all speaking Japanese to each other knowingly/diegetically.We're assuming it's English, but what if Tomino was like "No, they are all speaking in Japanese to each other in that future."
It's just a cartoon retard.
>>23037052No shit.I'm a nerdanon on chan that likes to explore a 1970s robot cartoon.I find this meaningful and entertaining.I enjoy the aesthetics and the lore.
What's with the low brow normalfags derailing threads lately?
>>23037051That would be interesting. Doesn't Kai write a letter to Hayato in English? Was that meant to be coded?
>>23037034>That is why Japanese is the lingua franca in the UC world on Earth and with the Spacenoids.It's not. Almost all the visible text in Gundam is in English
>>23037051>Just run with it.No, its retarded
>>23037034> Japanese being the lingua franca> EVERY example of on-screen text, majority of the nomenclature is in EnglishDid you miss several days at the special school you went to?
>>23037034>That is why Japanese is the lingua franca in the UC world on Earth and with the Spacenoids.I was always under the impression that in-universe, everyone is speaking english and thus the dub is funnily enough more accurate to what's actually going on in the show. Much like how we know that in LoGH, in reality the Imperials are all speaking German and the FPA soldiers all English.
obviously, written lingua franca is english but spoken is Japanese, this isnt rocket surgery
>>23037034The charter is literally written in English you moron.
>>23037614So in your absurd version of UC, every single character regardless of national origin learns English and Japanese fluently for function in society? Kamille a 16 year old non Japanese kid from a random space colony is proficient in both languages enough to function on a warship without any miscommunications and misunderstandings? Why? What sense does this make? When has written and spoken lingua franca been different in any society? Please, enlighten me
>>23037536If it was canon that everyone sounded really stupid too, sure.It's not uncommon for spoken languages to be different from the "canon language". Hell, with a lot of scifi it gets outright handwaved with babel fish or or universal translators or something else.
>>23037034>Japanese is the lingua francaThat is English retard. The cartoon is in Japanese because you are watching Japanese dub.
>>23037055No one talked about fucking "lore" 15 years ago.
>>23037451All the broken English is proof that Japanese is the UC people's first language.
>>23037052>>23037980>You can’t talk about cartoons on a cartoon board because… because you just can’t okay!?!?
>>23037043>Japanese is the lingua franca in the UCIn any anime that was true, the digital texts would use Kanji and written from right to left. You can tell with, for example, the Gunbuster universe. (Diebuster is an entirely different society despite being in the same universe for spoiler reasons)Anime would make it very clear what the main language is suppose to be. You don't have to guess.
>>23038164It's envisioned by the Japanese creators who imagine it Japanese (just like we imagine our own futures in the languages we know). It's inseparable, much like I think "in American"; in all my fantasy all the hot babe speaks intelligible English ((un)fortunately). But being able to see foreign fantasies/dreams from other cultures is fascinating, like Gundam here from Tomino et al.At the height of its sovereignty, Japan thought "Everyone will speak Japanese one day..."These are a proud people that have been humbled.On a side note, here's 250 pages of Gundam the Origin scans in gif format that can be shared easily imgur that I thought you anons might enjoy as a demo (we are an image board, remember?):>gundam the origin v1>pg. 0-50https://i.imgur.com/TBvRgcI.gif>pg. 51-100https://i.imgur.com/iZSGYOC.gif>pg. 101-150https://i.imgur.com/cydFfUZ.gif>pg. 151-200https://i.imgur.com/YUYGRjB.gif>pg. 201-250https://i.imgur.com/6jCNQXq.gif(you guys are smart, you can figure out how to slow down the gifs ;)
>>23038629>n all my fantasy all the hot babe[I need to hire an editor...I sound like an ESL with all the lazy goofs]
>>23038629I don't know where the fuck you're from, and dont really care, but you should go back
>>23038629here's the rest of origin v1>pg. 251-300https://i.imgur.com/SJ3FON6.gif>pg. 301-350https://i.imgur.com/w2JAXjI.gif>pg. 351-400https://i.imgur.com/7Zj5e9f.gif>pg. 401-442https://i.imgur.com/nTV3SXJ.gif>>23038695fuck off faggot
>>23037451>He is a CHAR. . . Wait what?
>>23038765It's like with how old english is unrecognizable from modern English, lingua franca evolved from modern English so much that it's unrecognizable to us.
On a side note, anyone know what Aurabesh sounds like?
>>23038797SHAR!!
>>23038797UC is de facto Engrishu>>23040218what are the chances it sounds exactly like English (Another Time, Far Far Away)?
>>23040422>Engrishuwhich is funny since they say "eggo" instead
>>23040422No, someone said if you listen to Sheets broadcast as its relating from the transmitter in Rise, or even the probe droid in Empire, that's what Aurabesh actually sounds like.
>>23040617To us.You ever hear what English sounds like to non-English speakers?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4Dfa4fOEYAlso what if Universal Translators were invented in that Universe as a metaphysical plot device (like someone psychic race passed on a linguistic meme that allowed other races to understand each other somehow (some "deep/root language" thing)).That explains why people can understand Chewie and R2D2 diegetically but the audience can't [I think it's a good meta-justification].
>>23040656Almost nobody understands R2D2 speak except 3PO. Luke only understands R2D2 when they’re in the X-Wing and Luke can read a text translation on his console.
>>23040721that's because R2 is in Space and Luke is in the cockpit
yeah pretty sure in UC they've usually been "really" speaking English and they're just in Japanese for the viewer's sake, like how in the Lord Of The Rings books the story is "really" happening in old-Middle-Earth-eselast ten years or so has seemed to add some Russian to Zeons, like that live action museum thing with the MS developers
>>23037034No, English is the default language for the UC because almost everything is written in English. One of the novels said that the misspellings are because space colonization drove humanity so far apart from each other that some misspellings and grammar caught on as part of the slang and eventually the language (or we could assume they're production/system errors).Japanese is only the main language in G-Qwacks.
>>23041496New Yark is still New Yark
>>23041525This is one of those cases where a clerical error caught on because of the abandoment of records from the previous century and became the actual name.
>>23040656>>23040721>>23040773Linguistic relativity in the end.
>>23041528>uhhh... well... technically...
>>23041535I like to think of it as a type of semiotic fourier transformation; take meaning from one entity and translate it to someone else while preserving meaning.
>>23041551Universal. This is why in context in content, IF there are other intelligent being out there, we won't have too much trouble. Unless they are like Banks 'Oct'.
>>23038629>It's envisioned by the Japanese creators who imagine it JapaneseTomino literally envisioned it otherwise. When Gundam was approaching its final draft Amuro was going to be a red-haired foreigner (white), but the show staff were pushed by producers to make him at least half japanese, but he still managed to make it almost unnoticeable. The only reference to him being Japanese is very old books and websites putting his mom's hometown in the TV version in Japan. it didn't even get directly named in the show
>>23038629>>23038713>gundam the origin v1>pg. 0-50https://i.imgur.com/TBvRgcI.gif>pg. 51-100https://i.imgur.com/iZSGYOC.gif>pg. 101-150https://i.imgur.com/cydFfUZ.gif>pg. 151-200https://i.imgur.com/YUYGRjB.gif>pg. 201-250https://i.imgur.com/6jCNQXq.gif>pg. 251-300https://i.imgur.com/SJ3FON6.gif>pg. 301-350https://i.imgur.com/w2JAXjI.gif>pg. 351-400https://i.imgur.com/7Zj5e9f.gif>pg. 401-442https://i.imgur.com/nTV3SXJ.gifreminder: just rename the .gif to .cbz so that you can read it on your PC or mobile device you would a book
>>23046126Bro, can you curb your 'tism and stop bumping dead threads with pointless crap? There are better ways to get this manga than a dozen chopped up gifs
>>23046358No. If you can't handle autism, don't go to an autism board.
>>23046586The only autism broad I know is yer mum
>>23046620she was flat as a board, made for a great baby changing table for me and my sisters
>>23037034English is the official language. There's even a mention on how it was imposed as at least a second language on all people. You have to imagine all UC people speaking English even if they sound and act Japanese
>>23037980Yes they did. Ever head of D&D?
>>23037051>They are all speaking Japanese, but everything is written in English because Japanese eventually borrowed so many English words, they decided to just write in actual English but read it as Japanese somehow.
>>23038765They knew there was more than one before it even happened. Truly, this is the power of the newtype.
