Was Banana a theater kid? Who talks and acts like this?
>>23060709based people do
>>23060709Newypes are weird, okay?
>theater kidwhy do you need to categorize everything?
>>23060743Why did you categorize his actions?
>>23060709This is how UC characters have always spoken>"Go back to where the women are!">"That's why we have to show the world the light of the human heart!"
LOL
Meanwhile Trunks now says "gyat" and "no cap fr fr"
>>23060879Kamille is super autistic with a complex about his masculinity, and at least that Amuro's quote makes sense in context. Banagher being philosophical out of nowhere amid his outburst caught me off guard. Maybe I am just not getting his character.>>23060743I am a manager, I see all human as interchangeable economic unit and need to be categorized.
>>23060743Methodical sorting of the finest details is like drinking water on /m/. Why should people not be categorized and sorted by their traits and how they act?
>>23060709Sad things are sad.
>>23060709Banagher is written by an amateur author Fukui who desperately wants to be recognized by Tomino and get his approval. The problem is that this author has no real world life experience and is simply badly imitating what came before.Tomino has said that new writers and Gundam creators need to be people who have life experience that can be added to their works. They can't just be fans who grew with anime and that's all they know. The people from Tomino's generation were Teachers, travelers, surfers, artisans, soldiers, bakers, etc...but went into anime production for various reasons. These people added their life experience into the anime they created. They created some of the lost unique and amazing anime ever.What do you expect a writer like Fukui or other anime creators to make when their entire childhood.... is just watching Gundam anime and going to school? Nothing special.If you took away Gundam Unicorn's amazing animation budget and said it was an Gundam AU instead of it being related to UC, then no one would care. People only watches Unicorn because it was related to UC and claimed to be a sequel to Char's Counterattack.There's a reason why Tomino chewed out Fukui after watching Gundam Unicorn and Gundam NT. Tomino told Fukui (in a not so nice way...according to interviews) to stop repeating what has come before him and to do something new.This is why Banagher is so bland and uninteresting. Fukui has nothing to say with Banagher. Fukui was told by Bandai Corporate to write a UC novel set after CCA that they could turn into an anime. Fukui was supervised and watched carefully by Executives. Everything about Unicorn is a corporate committee approved and bland. Tomino could speak for HOURS about what he wanted to say with Amuro and Char's characters. Or even Kamille too. And what their character flaws mean for humanity and how Tomino views the world.Meanwhile the best Fukui can do with Banagher is "Stuff is sad!" and screaming Audrey a lot
>>23061131So deep and wonderfully said, give him 5 more spin offs
>>23061153>Goes on 10 hour rant about each characters favorite kind of vagina
>>23061153Impressive rant but I'm not reading any of it. Banagher is based, and fukui is the future of uc gundam whether you like it or not.
>>23060709A newtype. Is this your first time watching UC Gundam?
>>23061170Based, you tell him. Everything Bamco and Sunrise puts out is good, and we'll make damn sure no trolls say otherwise. Tomino was never that good anyways.
>>23060912What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
>>23060709>barges into conversation he barely knows a thing about >”YOU’RE ALL WRONG AND I AM RIGHT. HOW?? J-JUST BECAUSE OKAY???? SORE DEMO”>is somehow proven right regardless I hate Banagher so much it’s unreal
>/m/ is too retarded for Unicorn: episode 3981
Isekai Banana is better.
So, does coitus with Mineva cause a sore domo?
>>23061349It’s too retarded to understand and I didn’t need years of a tired scavenger hunt to figure that out.
>>23061760Like he'd know
>>23060709Banana is a kid who got Cyber Newtype treatment then living in a slump on Earth with his mom before getting to join essentially a vocational school for a blue-collar job.By all metrics, he's probably only second behind Judau as the more life-weary type of Gundam kid.I personally quite like his portrayal in the novel. Shame that the OVAs cut out his backstory with his mother and how he lived constantly with the disjoint feeling from being Cyber Newtype.
>>23061808*a slum on Side 1I guess I misremembered that to him having lived on Earth. It's been a while since I read the novels.
>>23061170>Banagher is basedExplain? He's just UC Kira, but unlkie Kira, he has never even whiffed a vagina in his life.
>>23060709I fucking CRINGED. UC is so gay
The same people who cry about unicorn are the ones who praise G 'the world....is not a square!' Reco.
>>23061463Haha…
>>23061964nah, I don't watch tominoshit
>>23060709Half of unicorn feels like a musical(and that's a good thing)
>>23060709This exact line would be delivered in G-reco except completely at random.
Banagher is the perfect example of someone who gets in way over their head and barely survives through the grace of the people around him. Amuro and Char are just mythical beings who are never in any real danger outside of when they're around each other.
>>23061964And evidently the people who like Unicorn are the kind of people who make hollow "whataboutism" tribal arguments instead of defending the series itself.
My favorite thing involving Banana is suffering through the entirety of Narrative bored of your fucking skull only for him to show up out of nowhere just to go "SORE DEMO" as if I'm meant to get excited by that.
>>23062325>AmuroGot by with the Gundam's superior armor and weapons before his skill caught up, and then surpassed the Gundam.>CharGot by with his superior piloting skill until Zeon's tech caught up.Amuro winds up in tight spots in CCA, where his finicky Fin Funnels got people killed.Char got the shit kicked out of him in Zeta, he couldn't take on both the Qubeley and The-O at once.
>>23062325Amuro took out an Asshimar with a fucking cargo plane so sure, maybe he is mythical. But Char/Quattro was struggling in multiple battles in Zeta. I find it really funny that he tried to pull what Amuro did to him in Star One against Haman, and in response she shot off the Hyaku Shiki's legs.
>>23061165Char gotta be with a woman who's pussy has volume yo.
I reached my breaking point with Banager when that chick was busy blowing up an entire city and slaughtering civilians for an entire episode and he just stood there crying like a retard and then got pissy at riddhe for putting an end to it
>>23062559>Char got the shit kicked out of him in Zeta, he couldn't take on both the Qubeley and The-O at once.To be fair, the AEUG gave him a pretty crappy suit. A leftover prototype with a shoddy frame that couldn't transform and was weaker than even the Gundam Mk 2. Hyaku had a single beam rifle. That's it. Even Hizacks get more weapons as part of their load out. Please explain why they didn't give Char his own Zeta Gundam. Because apparently they gave Amuro his own. Char was stuck with a Gen 1.5 suit while everyone was using Gen 2 and Gen 3 transforming suits or funnel suits.
Tomimo was right. Neo Zeon died with Char. Reviving it again for a Fourth time with the Sleeves was silly.
>>23061153>Banagher is written by an amateur author Fukui who desperately wants to be recognized by Tomino and get his approvalHe succeeded.
It always bothered me that when he steps into the Unicorn for the first time he utters what might be the most cliche words in the history of fiction:"Father... Mother, I'm sorry"Sorry for what? For being ashamed of his own dick?This shit, especially regarding his mother, is not explained. Maybe in the novels, but who cares.
>>23063000You don’t understand bro, they spoke a grand total of once, that means they have a deep connection and totally understand one another. Sore demo… or some shit
>>23063000>when that chick was busy blowing up an entire city and slaughtering civilians for an entire episode and he just stood there crying like a retard and then got pissy at riddhe for putting an end to itWasn't that a holiday, so the city was empty? I remember being confused why the Shamblo was attacking the city then, but its pilot was a nut so par the course I guess.
>>23063145>Wasn't that a holiday, so the city was empty?Cities don't completely evacuate for a Holiday. And even if they did there's still the matter of those people coming home to find their entire lives destroyed.
>>23063145>>23063161Didn't someone say "They were all living on a military base so even if they were civilians they knew what they were getting into by marrying/coupling with soldiers and deserved the same fate" or something like that
>>23063000It's one of those cases where it made more sense in the books. Loni and her brothers were all in the Shamblo trying to stop their terrorist father from going too far but died in the process.
>>23063166>They knew what they signed up for" is not a valid excuse for wholesale destruction. God you're an idiot.
>>23063207The anime goes for this insane angle of Loni being controlled by her father's vengeful Newtype ghost, which barely makes sense even if you know how the novel plays out. It's why Banagher's psychic powers are wrestling with evil spirit hands and a few other scenes of a dark specter haunting Loni. It's a pretty spectacular failure on the OVA's part.
>>23063255Also Banagher takes the shot without hesitating in the novels when Loni telepathically tells him to aim for the head. The whole ‘AIIII I CAN’T SHOOT AUDREY-SAN TASUKETE’ bit doesn’t even happen. I have no idea why they changed it
>>23063089>He succeededWhere?
>>23062332I started cracking up laughing when I heard that line. My friends didn't understand why I found it so funny.
>>23063289Tomino hasn’t completely cut him off like he did with Yas, so apparently that’s enough to be considered a good relationship in some people’s eyes
>>23063089He succeeded in annoying Tomino. Tomino had to yell at Fukui for being so unoriginal and copying his old works.
>>23063347The only thing I’ve ever read about them fighting is Tomino allegedly kicking him when he read the Turn A novels Fukui wrote that added in a bunch of newtype/Psycoframe fuckery. I’ve never heard anything about Tomino watching Unicorn and calling Fukui out on its shittiness
>>23060709That's just Newtype stuff.
>>23063359Tomino watched Unicorn Episode 1, didn't bother to watch the other episodes, and then skipped directly to the end of episode 7. He said the animation quality was nice, but made a several comments about the story being slow. Tomino also made several additional private comments to the staff about their "handling" of Mineva, but the staff wouldn't elaborate further on what he said. Which sort of lines up with Tomino's much earlier interviews in the 1990s and 2000s where he said he felt that Mineva should be left alone, and allowed to grow up as a normal girl away from war and her Zeon family history. That if her character were ever used again, it should be when she's a full grown adult at minimum. That using her character as a teenager in future stories would be child abuse after all she's suffered (losing her entire family).I suspect Tomino isn't too happy with Fukui using Mineva in Unicorn. Not only using her as a Zeon symbol, but also as a teenager. Pretty much going against everything Tomino wanted for her character.
>>23063347>>23063359>>23063405Do you have a source on any of this
>>23063418I read about the Tomino kicking Fukui thing on the Turn A fansite run by that diehard fan. He said it was alleged though so it might just be an urban legend. Can’t help you with the rest, sorry
>>23063418https://www.gundam.info/news/event/news_event_20151030_14188p.html>’Producer Ogata also mentioned that Yoshiyuki Tomino, the creator of the Gundam series, had seen UC.“When he had seen episode 1 before, he said that “the Gundam came out too late,” but when I was working on another film, he said, ‘Show me the feature film you guys have done,’ and I showed him episode 7. The next day, he came to the studio and said, ‘There are about three things I know,’ and left. I think he was probably talking about Mineva or something. He said, ‘It's well done,’"
>>23060709He's a talented newtype Liberal who's always lived in peace who expects everyone to think and act like he does but gets a slap to the face when is proven otherwise whom the cast is nice enough to, to allow him to grow a bit more as a person.He's basically a genuine Marxist who believes in the best of people as opposed to 99.9% of the Marxists out there who just morally brigade others because they think they know better, and the only way it could even possibly work for Banana Links is because he has Newtype abilities AKA Marxism doesn't work unless everyone is genuinely selfless and altruistic and has a psychic link with each other which goes completely against evolution, self preservation and striving for dominance.
>>23063418I'm sure someone can easily find them for you. It's not like it's hidden. Just find the translation you like. As for the Mineva Interviews, it's been posted before on this board. Just use the archive with some keywords.I remember anons arguing about Tomino not being in charge of Gundam anymore and it doesn't matter what he says about Mineva. Which sparked a whole argument about people shitting on Tomino's vision. That Bandai might as well resurrect Char and Amuro since Tomino has no say.
>>23062332Kino as fuck.
>>23063145I vaguely remember a mom getting obliterated with her infant kid
>>23063796That did happen, yes.
>>23062332He also tells Jonah that maybe one day his life will suck a little less. Maybe.
>>23060743Because sorthing things into neat boxes is a very human thing to do.
>>23060709He's got Newtype autism, he can't help it. The words just come in from beyond the time.
>>23063207man those light novels are so coool
>>23063474So basically anon made it all up
>/m/ still being filtered by tomino-isms
>>23061153gundam unicorn was a runaway success and revived interest in the U.C. timeline, get over it.
>>23063405so basically you just made up the bit about him "yelling" at fukui
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir_PRErPnb0UNICORN WONUNICORN WONUNICORN WONUNICORN WON
>>23066542Not that anon but Tomino did reprimand and said not nice things to the writer of Gundam NT after Tomino watched some clips of it. Tomino was not happy. We've confirmed this and the Sunrise staff have joked over the years about Tomino being intense.
Your imaginary Tomino criticisms don't make sense considering he made G-Reco right after Unicorn lol.
>>23066549The power of Unicorn...
I've not watched Narrative (and probably won't, doesn't seem interesting based on SRW's appearance). Did they clarify or double down on if Frontal was possessed by Char? I find it hard to believe that CCA Char would give enough shit about politics to come back and become a megalomaniac mastermind to dunk on Earthnoid with Spacenoid economic dominance.
>>23066597He was just possessed by a portion of Char's soul, the one that just couldn't move on.
>>23066597>Did they clarify or double down on if Frontal was possessed by Char?No. Narrative is a sequel to Unicorn only in that it takes place more or less right after, but it focuses on a new set of characters with their own motives and storyline. Yes, Banagher shows up to assist, but literally does nothing as he comes too late to do anything to make a difference.>I find it hard to believe that CCA Char would give enough shit about politics to come back and become a megalomaniac mastermind to dunk on Earthnoid with Spacenoid economic dominance.It is fucking weird, and so is Mineva's accurate assertion that the real Char would never resort to that kind of plan.
>>23061165And he's based as fuck for it because he knows enough about pussies to create characters that feel flesh and bone.
>>23066631Is that from the novel? I guess that explains why you see CCA Char in the "seeing time" sequence (which itself is also dumb). Even so, souls can be split into pieces and Char's soul of all people? I honestly find it easier to believe that it was Sarah's soul getting torn into two because of Katz and Paptimus over this, I don't get the impression that Char ever was that much of an ideological man. Also the plan is very out of character for Char as >>23066932 put it, he is an operational success, acting on instinct, siege the opportunity kind of tactician, not a grand strategy mastermind.
>>23060709*SORE DEMOS EXTERNALLY*
>>23062332I laughed like a madman the moment it happened.
>>23063545Don’t drag evolution into this. Survival of the fittest (aka best adapted) can mean survival of the most cooperative and most helpful, depending on the place and circumstances. Even Darwin wrote that a community “which included the greatest number of the most sympathetic members would flourish best and rear the greatest number of offspring”, which has been demonstrated repeatedly since both by observation and via mathematical models. Being a selfish asshole might benefit one in short-term, but communities full of sociopaths don’t last long.
>>23067023FUREAERUYO
>>23067071Survival of the fittest also includes lucky assholes who beat the odds through sheer dumb luck.
>>23066514Here’s the NT interview >——How did Tomino react when you told him you were going to be the director?>Yoshizawa: Ha ha ha ha. Well, he seemed pretty worried when I told him, but he gave me advice here and there—kind of like he was pushing me in the right direction. Even when I drew storyboards or did work for other companies, I asked Tomino for advice. Taking the other company’s work into consideration, he would give me advice on techniques—stuff like moving the camera angle to get more dynamic shots, paying attention to how characters rise and fall during their steps, or just generally how to liven up a scene. It was always very concrete advice so I sent him the storyboard for the opening phase of NT out of curiosity of what he would say.>The next day he didn’t come to the studio. I thought, “Huh, that’s weird,” but then he didn’t come the day after that either. I thought he’d had enough, but when I finally asked him he said he got frustrated after seeing the first couple of pages. Reason being that NT starts with the colony drop scene. “You’re all so young, and yet you’re going to start from the colony drop scene just like all those years ago?” Basically, he was saying it was a pretty big failure (laughs).>Ogawa: It’s fine. Better he said it then (laughs).>Yoshizawa: Tomino felt that we hadn’t taken a single step from his UC stories. This is a story that takes place after Char’s Counterattack, so why were we falling back on the same setup? From there, he had some not-so-nice words towards the scenario writers. I wonder what kind of face I was making during that…>Ogawa: I’m sorry you had to take the brunt of that (bitterly laughs).https://criesinnewtype.wordpress.com/2019/02/22/gundam-nt-behind-the-scenes-with-director-yoshizawa-shunichi-producer-ogata-naohiro/
>>23067890Don't fall for his tricks. He knows about that interview. That oldfag anon goes around to every thread he likes demanding a source. Why? Because it's one of his strategies to keep his favorite threads alive. Dead thread? Accuse people of making stuff up to revive the discussion.Just wait. In 2 to 3 weeks you will see another Unicorn thread and the cycle will repeat itself. Thread is dead? Then Anon comes in and accuses people of making up stuff and demanding a source. He doesn't actually care about the source. Same shit with Gundam X threads and ZZ threads. Anon demands source or accuses people of not having good taste, and that X and ZZ are "hidden gems" or under appreciated masterpieces. Cycle repeats over and over.
