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>Cima Fleet got their hands on GP04, they turned into monoeye machine
>Sleeve got their hands on Sinanju Stein, they turned into monoeye machine
>Char got their hands on RX 78-2, doesn't turned into monoeye just painted red
Why tho?
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>muh pattern
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>>23062227
Char isn't really a Zeonist
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>>23062249
*beats you up*
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>>23062227
Because that is what happens with stolen designs. The Soviet Buran looks like the Space Shuttle, the Chinese J 35 looks like the F 35. The "LOL put a MONOEYE on it" trope is a retarded UC thing that doesn't happen in real life.
SEED had the right Idea where Freedom, Justice and Providence made by ZAFT based on the original 5 Earth Alliance Gundams retains the standard Gundam head and doesn't idiotically replace them with the Ginn or CGUE heads.
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>>23062227
To sell more model kits
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>>23062227
but Sinanju is not a monoeye, its a tri-eye
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>>23062227
The sinanju from narrative is not monoeyed
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>>23062227
Zeon always divides by 2
Dual eyed gundams when stolen turn into monoeyes
The four eyed one in gquuuk turns into a double eyed
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>>23062292
Except Freedom and Justice are literally GuAIZs. Look at their body frame.
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>>23062525
He said they didn't replace the head, not the body.
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They would've won the war with two eyes.
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>>23062227
Most likely Zeon didn't have the resources or the knowhow to alter the federation tech. For example, the blue Destiny Unit 2 only painted the shoulders red. Iirc, the GP04 was customBzed by the AE before it was sold, and Neo Zeon already had the knowhow to customize the Sinanju.
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>>23062227
Char is not a Zabist, hope this helps
the Zabis and their lapdogs turn things into monoeyes, Char paints things red and makes them faster
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>>23062227
Sinanju is a false mono-eye just like the Dijeh.
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>>23062663
>Dijeh
Huh?
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>>23062669
Yep. The Dijeh canonically has a Gundam head inside it, and the HGUC lets you actually choose between it being a full mono-eye or a pseudo like canon. Given it was made for Amuro, it isn't that surprising.
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>>23062673
Has this always been the case? I don't remember my Dijeh having this piece. What the hell
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>>23062669
>>23062673
Here's the other example in lineart.
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>>23062227
Mars F90 didn't have a monoeye either
...at least, not at first.
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>>23062227
It tracks with the existing Casval's Gundam from Gihren's Greed which was just a red Gundam. If you really want your mind blown, look at Zeta, where Char pilots the almost Gundam Hyaku-Shiki, and Amuro pilots the Dijeh, which is made of Gundarium but has a monoeye and is based off the Rick Dias.
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>>23062673
I don't think that big eye is just for show, wouldn't that make it a Tri-eye rather than a false monoeye?
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>>23062778
Quatro is not a Char
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>>23062292
>domestic camera model is a big change for an adaptation
meds, now
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>>23062572
They got the knowledge on how to make the Sinanju from reverse-engineering the Gundam Killer
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>>23062227
>Why tho?

Zeon isn't real some Japanese guy drew a picture for an anime and his boss liked it I dunno.
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>>23062793
>MFW Reality is unrealistic
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>>23063219
This image actually disproves your argument. The booster rockets on the Buran have the multi nozzle arrangement typical of Soviet rockets which were just a bunch of smaller rockets in a bundle, rather than the large single nozzle of the American boosters. Additionally, the thruster configuration on the Buran is completely different, and it was also planned to be able mount jet engines to aid in atmospheric flight after reentry, something that wasn't even considered for the Space Shuttle.

This is analogous to the Zeeks switching out the main camera to their preferred monoeye type design in keeping with their own design principles.
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>>23063838
Why does the Earth Federation not stick a GM head on a Hizack?
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>>23063219
dude, it's different rocket kind
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>>23063219
>>23063838
The space shuttle was a mistake. Anyone with a brain would have realized that reusable rockets are much better. That's why Space X is winning.
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>>23064807
The Buran is what helped bankrupt the SU.
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>>23062227
>Gerbera Tetra and Sinanju are god tier designs
>And then there is that red "gundam" monstrosity
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>>23064900
fixed
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>>23063838
>>23064792

They are all superficial differences, It is idiotic to assume they will copy the design for the most part and then for no justifiable reason stick a monoeye head on it. Why not give them the more rounded manipulators or Zaku compatible weapons? Wouldnt that be more efficient? No. Everything else is exactly like the EF counterpart, save for the head. That is retarded anime bullshit that simply does not happen in real life.
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>>23064807
Can't reuse it if it's in a thousand scorched pieces.
SpaceX is doing well because NASA and its equivalents are largely inundated with bureaucracy and have been for decades. NASA in particular has been really bad on that front for a long time.
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>>23064900
But DUUUUDE It's the guy that made EVANGELION!
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>>23069460
Before anyone says this anon is wrong, he is correct, Yamashita designs both.
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>>23065202
Booster design and thruster configuration are NOT superficial differences. The fact that you think they are means this debate is over- you've lost. They are fundamental differences that change the way the machines operate.
>then for no justifiable reason stick a monoeye head on it
It's not for no justifiable reason. Zeon engineers are more used to working on mono-eye sensor suites. Zeon pilots are more used to using them. Finally, in the case of the Gerbera Tetra, it was intentionally "Zeonized" to hide its origin as the Gundam "Gerbera". You are straight up wrong when you say:
>Everything else is exactly like the EF counterpart, save for the head
Almost every external part on the Gerbera Tetra has been redesigned according to Zeon design principles. Not just the monoeye.

While the Sinanju has more elements of the Sinanju Stein in it than the Gebera Tetra has from the Gerbera Gundam, it too has many redesigned elements. It was after all completely redesigned to meet the requirements of a Char clone.

Your other point is equally nonsensical:
>Why not give them the more rounded manipulators or Zaku compatible weapons? Wouldnt that be more efficient?
There is nothing about the manipulators that would preclude either the Gerbera Tetra or the Sinanju from using Zaku weaponry, I'm not sure where you even got this from. The better question is, why would either suit use Zaku weaponry when they have their own superior beam weaponry? The Gerbera Tetra even has built in 110mm guns that are the functional equivalent of the 120mm Zaku MG. It also has no need for a Zaku Bazooka because its Beam Machine Gun rapid fires beam pulses which are more powerful.

In conclusion, it is not stupid anime bullshit that doesn't happen in real life, it makes sense in universe. You have been thoroughly refuted and I expect any retort from you to be as equally bereft of compelling arguments as your previous posts.
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>>23062673
The profile says it the eyes weren't equipped, it just has the remnants of a gundam-like feature because they assumed Amuro's MS would be a gundam-type
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>>23062227
The Gerbera Tetra was specifically modified to hide the fact it was the GP04.
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>>23063943
Because the Hizack wasn't made by Feddie engineers stealing the Zaku design and Feddie-izing it (this did happen early on in OYW with the Zanny), it was made by Zeon engineers who had been absorbed into Anaheim Electronics and decided to make a modernized Zaku. Also the Titans wanted to use a Zaku type to hunt Zeek remnants as a flex which is why they also kept the classic green Zaku color scheme. The real life reason of course is that the execs wanted viewers to be able to ID the "bad guy faction" easily.
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>>23065202
"no justifiable reason"
the reason is easier integration with their own system and better maintainability you gorilla retard
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>>23069948
No, it was made by feddie engineers using former zeon facilities and designs. Even the AoZ version, which is the source of Anaheim co-designing it, is just that, a co-design/design partnership. Even the MG Hi-Zack manual basically makes no mention of Anaheim being a major contributor even though it came out after AoZ, because AoZ was Dengeki Hobby doing its own thing completely contrary to existing setting lore.

The AoZ Re-Boot even doubled back to the original lore by writing the esoteric Hi-Zack prototype model mentioned once in some 80s model manual into a new MS independently developed by the Federation as a high-end Hi-Zack that got stripped down by Anaheim for the production version.

https://hobby.dengeki.com/news/464433/
>A cutting-edge mobile suit developed independently by the Earth Federation Forces after the One Year War. It was made before AE became involved and had no modifications made for mass production, so it had better performance than later Hizacks. After adjustments to each part in preparation for mass production, it evolved into the YRMS-106 Hizack Pre-Production Type, and then the RMS-106 Hizack. Several of the Hizack prototypes produced became base machines for the development of underwater MS, while others incorporated prototype parts from the TR Project, such as the RX-106E Hizack [Vanarkand].
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>>23070110
I think it's likely that the Zeon facilities also included the Zeon engineers. AE coming onto the Hizack project just coincides with the absorption of Zeonic for that reason. Basically the Feddies would have told the Zeek engineers "you will help us make MS" and they did so on an ad hoc basis. AE formally acquiring Zeonic and becoming involved in the development of the Hizack just represents the ultimate disposition of the Zeonic engineering team.



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