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Previous Thread: >>23477450

>List of subbed series
https://tokusubs.wikia.com/wiki/Tokusubs_Wiki

>Direct Download Links
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>/krg/ archives
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>RideChemy Card Database
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>DO NOT MAKE A NEW THREAD UNTIL PAGE 8 OR IMAGE LIMIT
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Post your final verdicts on Kamen Rider Gavv's TV series.
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Critique Valen's V-Cinema form.
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>>23485165
The most consistent a reiwa show has been so far. The hero side of the cast really carries it due to the villains kind of being fumbled. 7.5/10
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>>23485165
I would give gave overall a 7.5 to 8 out of 10. Overall a quite good and well made series. The finale left much to be desired though, and too many characters died deaths that weren't very satisfying nor emotional (Dente, Glotta, Jeeph, Rango.)
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>>23485168
Despite being a kitbash, it’s damn good.
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>>23485165
Went from great to decent to mediocre.
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>>23485165
I'm more than happy with it
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>>23485181
>during trailer
No, during the episode itself, that's why they went all emotional when Lakia was falling off. I personally never thought Lakia would die, his survival being confirmed by the V-Cin poster got leaked before the episode's airing, but it's still bait.
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>>23485168
I like the helmet but the suit as whole is probably my second least favorite Valen form. It's a bit too tacky and garish.
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>>23485165
It's good, even more than geats

>>23485127
>>23485143
But not that great, at least according to lot of posters last thread.
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i told u m bocca is the better final boss than lango.. he's intimidating enough that's for sure
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It's another Short movie about gochizo
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>>23485227
After finally seeing Lango's end, I gotta agree, Bocca would've made a better final boss.
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Gavv had some of the best fights in rider for ages, what the fuck happened with that ending?
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>>23485165
Like Zerowan, the solo movie is intended to be the true ending than the series.
I've watched gavv summer movie and it did feel that way too, shocking indeed. Even directed by Sugihara kantoku.
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>>23485168
It's literally Frappe but worse. Really not a fan.
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>>23485165
My favorite Reiwa season, it's the most consistent Reiwa show yet, with the best character dynamics, setting and action, also the second best motw only being beaten by Zero-One. Saber still has a better second half and overall plot but in terms of overall entertainment I still prefer Gavv over Saber.
Now, if I had to rank it among other seasons outside of Reiwa it's not a Top 5, the weirdness of the clone arc, how slow Q2 started, the villains staying alive despite not remaining active, how disappointing Nyelv and Jeebh went down, Lisellle not mattering much to the overall plot, Hanto not getting meaningful wins, Sachika feeling detached to the story even if she was useful from time to time and help progress the character arcs of the main trio and Suga's backstory not being explored enough drag this show down.
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Should episode official livestream breads with the youtube link like 5 minutes before the shout stream starts be made in place of the traditional episode breads now?
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>>23485246
The movie takes place before the last few episodes.
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>>23485257
It's time for the return of the SHT time live threads.
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Buy Shouma!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc_0l1VWB8g
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>>23485245
morota a shit director and komura being komura
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5SmvB_FqVo
Zeztz video.
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>>23485227
hell even suga have more presence than all stomachs combined
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>>23485245
The action director is not the writer nor the producer so obviously the fights being good doesn't mean that the finale will be good. Also the fight against Bocca in the mansion was cooler because it was done by the pilot director of the show who wasn't able to handle the finale due to being too occupied with the Summer Movie.
The original plan was for Lakia to be a Granute cop infiltrated in Stomach inc that would join Shouma, with Q2 focusing on the main trio exploring the Granute World and killing all of the Stomachs, while the second half focused on a second mafia based on Lovecraft instead of Norse mythology taking over the dark treat production and serving as the main villains for the rest of the show.
However due to lack of budget exploring the Granute world with the cop angle had to be abandoned and because Takebe liked the Stomachs' actors they remained alive even if Komura didn't have any plans beyond what was already written and wasn't able to come up with plans either.
So instead Takijima came up with Lakia being a normal Granute who had his brother killed, this resulted in other writers handling him which is why Q2 starts slow. Then in other to compensate for the Granute world not being explored, the second mafia leaders became Bocca and Lisellle who took over the Stomach inc without killing the family.
I don't know what caused the clone arc, I don't know who would have been BakiBaki Sticks in the original plan and I don't know why they couldn't leave the Stomach in to secondary writers like they did for Lakia and the two-parter about Hanto's mother's kidnapper.
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>>23485262
what the fuck, so if we miss the live stream then there's no way to watch it?
does that mean the rippers won't be able to rip
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>>23485245
They decided the action had to match the quality of the show.
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>>23485237
>Konpeitou Gochizo
Kept us waiting
Also I think that the other new one is muffin?
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>>23485269
I bought SHFSS Ixa, 1 The Next, SHF Hongo Takeshi, Shin Dan Kuroto, Dan Kuroto Shin, Izu, Ankh, Takumi Inui, Masato Kusaka, but I'm not buying that.
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>>23485283
The only way it gets uploaded to Nyaa is someone recording the stream. Also probably OCR'd the subs since it's gonna be hardsub with bad video quality.
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Gochizo Party 1 Henshin!? Zeztz Appears!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NLVj54Xr-M
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>>23485282
>and because Takebe liked the Stomachs' actors they remained alive even if Komura didn't have any plans beyond what was already written
They never said it was Takebe specifically, Komura or Sugihara could've pushed for it for all we know.
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>>23485295
>Lakia thinking Zeztz is a Stomach "agent"
Cute.
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>>23485282
>lack of budget
>takijima's idea of lakia
Fucking where? How do you know that?
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>>23485252
>the best character dynamics
Between the main 4 heroes maybe, the rest were shit.
>setting
That's Zero-One, we only got bits and pieces of Gavv's Granute World because of budget issues and the human side of things is somehow even less explored.
>action
That's Geats, it at least had the decency of ending with strong action sequences.
>second best motw
They stopped being interesting after the crab guy.
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>>23485316
Here:
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23103503/#q23103634

>>23485298
I assumed because Takebe is the one who almost always write posts about her really liking the Stomach actors, even with today's episode, also because I assume that if Komura really liked them then she would have written stuff for them rather than having them absent for multiple episodes doing nothing. But I guess it could have been Sugihara.
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>>23485165
KR B
V3 B+
X B
Amazon B-
Stronger B
Skyrider C+
Super-1 C-
Black A-
Black RX C+
Shin C+
ZO B+
J C+
Masked Rider D
Kuuga A-
Agito A-
Ryuki A+
555 A-
Blade A-
Hibiki B
Kabuto D+
Den-O A+
Kiva B / IXA A
Decade B+
Dragon Knight B-
W A+
OOO A+
Fourze C+
Wizard C+
Gaim B-
Drive B
Ghost B+
Ex-Aid D+
Build B+
Zi-O C+
Zero One A-
Saber B+
Revice A-
Geats A
Gotchard D
Gavv B+
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>>23485262
So in the end, everyone that isn't in the "chosen one" timezones get shafted anyway. Sasuga
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>>23485295
How cute. I like that Baku has a modulated voice in suit.
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>>23485168
I like it a lot. But I also think it doesn't really need the cape
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>>23485282
The archive has leaks from January that indicate that at least at that time that Jeebh as Bakibaki Stick, Zombie Suga and Glotta being defeated by Vram's final form were locked in.
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23077705/#23077789
Them knowing this by end of January seems to indicate that the idea that the middle got rewritten and was initially supposed to have gotten to content that got pushed to the last dozen episodes is true.
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Message from Zeztz's cast to overseas fans: https://files.catbox.moe/ldpw1r.mp4
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>>23485353
I hope they don't feel too suffocated when it comes to their season actually being legally shown in most places around the world.
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>>23485345
>Ryuki A+
>Den-O A+
>OOO A+
Chad
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>>23485351
The show wrapped up filming on March 19th, the episodes up to Zombie Suga's debut could've already been finished by the time of the leak.
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>>23485358
They think they’re cute by putting them for 5 seconds as if that matters in the slightest by that point
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>>23485168
>took Lizel under his wing
What did Hanto meant by this
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Reading the episode guide, it seems like Nox will be the key that pushes the plot forward (in contrast to Hanto who is not that relevant). Hope that Yuya didn’t gimp him like he did with Fuwa or Keiwa.
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Jigged the display around and dug out my PuToTyras
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>>23485345
>Revice A-
Explain.
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The bane of gavv existence
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Kick vs Punch
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>>23485369
Nigga, that's normal for q1 rider.
>Spectre
>Gou
>Gattack
>Yuuto
>Banjo
>Geiz
>Daiji
>Rinne
On the top of my head
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>>23485165
Pretty great, the best Reiwa show since Zero-One. Not perfect and still nothing on the level of the great Heisei shows, but it was enjoyable every week, and the low points weren't as low as the other Reiwa lows. Still could have been a lot better, especially the rewrites, but I'm satisfied with what we got.
>>23485168
I don't like it.
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>>23485157
So now that Zeztz is getting simulcast, have all the fansubbers bailed?
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GEATS WA
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>>23485414
Whale is having a vacation year if anything.
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>>23485417
SHITTO
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>>23485414
Ei is supposedly doing Zeztz with the translator from GeoSubs, so if they don't bail last minute, that's an option
*EternalSleeper is the name Ei chose cause Et is close to Ei, narcissism
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>>23485430
>with the translator from GeoSubs
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>>23485436
That looks so cursed
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>>23485430
TATAKAI WA NEVER END
DON'T SAY NO
JUST SUB MORE
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>>23485373
The whole build up to the show is family and it tells that story really well. Especially with Vice, Aguilera, & others becoming part of the family and all the struggles that go with that. The side story with Genta was awesome. Where it falls short is some bits being ham-fisted in the storytelling. Especially the JeannexAguilera bait being the worst offender, and the start drags until The Mystery turns things around quickly.
The suits were great, the gimmick was great, the sound design was great. Literally no complaints about the aesthetics, yes even "Eenie Meenie Miney Mo".
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>>23485429
so, if we do get fansub will it be after some hours after the replay on Sunday or on Monday?
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>>23485447
It's not like raws on Nyaa will stop existing, anon.
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>>23485448
I don't see Ultraman raws on nyaa ever since they started showing up on Youtube
seems like they always wait until the BD release
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The Fourze final ep was one of the best ones for me
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>>23485165
Shows
>Top-Tier: Build > Ryuki > Agito > Fourze > OOO > Blade > Kuuga > Gaim > Ex-Aid > W > Gavv > Kabuto > Den-O > 555
>Really Great: Drive > Saber
>Great: Geats > Black
>Good: Zero-One > Kiva > Zi-O > Hibiki > Decade
>Average: Gotchard
>Mediocre: Black Sun
>Bad: Ghost > Wizard > Revice
Main Riders
>Sento > Shoichi > Tendou > Eiji > Gentaro > Shotaro > Godai > Otoya > Shouma > Takumi > Kenzaki > Philip > Kouta > Ryotaro/Imagin > Shinnosuke > Touma > Emu > Shinji > Asumu > Hibiki > Haruto > Sougo > Ace > Aruto > Tsukasa > Kotaro > Wataru > Takeru > Vice > Ikki > Houtaro
Secondary Riders
>Kagami > Banjou > Yuto > Hikawa > Hajime > Ichijou > Nago > Rintaro > Ren > Hanto > Fuwa > Nito > Kusaka > Ryusei > Terui > Go > Kumon > Tachibana > Hiiro > Keiwa > Geiz > Goto > Makoto (Ghost) > Kaito (DCD) > Evil > Ibuki > Rinne > Daiji
Tertiary Riders
>Kitaoka > Hajime > Kazumi > Date > Alain > Sou > Tsurugi > Kento > Taiga (Ex-Aid) > Chase > Ryo > Lakia > Tachibana > Daisuke > Woz > Mitsuzane > Spanner > Neon > Taiga (Kiva) > Onodera > Todoroki > Yua > Mayu > Sakura > Mihara
Antagonists
>Overlord of Darkness > Heart > Evol > Gamou > Kuroto > Ark > Kanzaki > Tablet/Joker > Ryubei > Masamune > Storius > Gremlin > Century King/Shadow Moon > N Daguva Zeba > Sagara > Geryon > Kumon > Fueki > Banno > Schwartz > Orphnoch King / Smart Brain Executive / Rose > Utopia > Bocca > Lango > King > Kai > Negaishi? (I don't remember the name of that native) > Giff > Adel > The Man and the Woman > Suel
Overall I enjoyed the show from start to finish and it has the best action direction out of the seasons I've seen imo. The interactions with the cast are fun and I really liked most of the motw but I wish the Granute world had been explored more, that the Stomachs had died earlier, that they had done something interesting with Jiip/Lisellle, for Bocca to interact more with the human world, for Sachika to be more connected to the story/themes and for Hanto to have won more fights.
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>>23485358
Is Geats the Reiwa Rider who use his bike the most? Or Revi?
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So why was Michiru kidnapped then?
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>>23485446
you need to go back to plebbit
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>>23485464
I think it's Gotchard, then Geats, then Gavv but I'm not sure
Does anyone have the bike autism chart?

>>23485454
Same, Gamou is such a good villain, Gentaro's out of suit fight hits hard, and the graduation feels like a good culmination to all the build up done in the show.
I wish that Tsukada had gotten to do more Kamen Rider and for Nakashima to have gotten to do more toku.
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>>23485472
I don't understand the issue?
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>>23485454
>Saite
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>>23485446
>Literally no complaints about the aesthetics, yes even "Eenie Meenie Miney Mo".
Do people not like "Eenie Meenie Miney Mo"? That's a cool as fuck standby. All that said, how the hell do you like Thundergale, Aguilera (Rider), Muteki Jeanne, Over Demons and Giff, they're really terrible suits imo that I have trouble finding things to like about, so I'm genuinely curious as what you liked about them.
Also the characters, I couldn't bring myself to care about any of them besides Genta with how inconsistent their character arcs were, or because they were absent for long periods of the show like Bu.
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>>23485495
I think that Live's is a huge downgrade from Evil's at least. Well, almost everything about Live was a downgrade from Evil.
>had to keep that muted turquoise coupled with the piss yellow accents
>whatever the fuck they were thinking with its Jackal Genome
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>>23485475
Huh Gotchard use his bikes a lot? Genuinely don't remember.
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>>23485345
how come geats is A when gavb is B? don't mean to judge your taste buy elaborate please
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>>23485446
The show horribly failed at the concept of being about family. Daiji was constantly abused and shoved aside by the rest of the family, while his parents disregarded his fears. Sakurasentai was horrible at embodying its message of family.
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>>23485459
Please watch showa rider.
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>>23485345
>Ryuki A+
Based take.
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>>23485414
Has the Subgoku Wars finally come to an end?
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>>23485495
Thundergale has neat parts with the yellow's accents with the red & blue that look like it's lighting sparking fire.
Muteki Jeanne reflects more of the Egyption design of snakes, which is her aesthetic. I feel like I don't have to explain that one.
Over Demons reminds me of the Riotroopers and I like mass produced Riders that are liken to the Shocker grunts. They remind me more recently of CaKing's Whip minions.
Giff is a vagina rock, I feel like I don't have to explain how hilarious that is.
As far as the inconsistencies, I chalk that up to the common Rider issue of the different fill-in writers for episodes. The core part I focus on is not the inconsistencies but the overall arc, and how they start to end up as. I feel like the Igarashis are closer as a family than ever before by the end.
>>23485512
The difference to me between an A & a B is "Am I overly excited to watch the next episode as soon as possible?" I can wait to watch Gavv, but that doesn't mean Gavv was a great show. The fight choreography was incredible.
>>23485513
Yeah, that happens in real families too, it's actually pretty realistic aside from the actual inner demons showing up. Daiji overcoming his anxiety is one of the best parts of the show.
>>23485360
>>23485517
Ryuki is an amazing show that should not be skipped at all.
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>>23485414
The episodes aren't going to stay up on youtube, so I hope somebody at least releases the official subs as downloadable files.
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>>23485516
I will, but I went through most of Showa Sentai first and now I'm starting to get into Ultraman, I just keep pausing the original season because I really didn't like the change of Ichimonji taking over because of how unplanned that was, and my anime/tokusatsu backlog is so massive that I just have stuff that ultimately interests me more because I got spoiled of most of the plot of all Showa seasons except Black and Black RX, which is why I decided to keep up with Spirits despite not having actually watched Showa yet.
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>>23485538
>but that doesn't mean Gavv wasn't a great show
fixed, sorry
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>>23485542
How awesome was Maskman?
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>>23485538
Thanks for the explanation.
Only retards skip a rder show. Even if it's not very good.
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>>23485556
Gotchard and ghost.
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>>23485546
Why that one specifically? I mean I enjoyed it overall but I struggle to consider it a "good" show, Red getting most of the focus really hurts the team dynamic, the plot twist with the antagonist was dumb, the finale was disappointing with the princess and the show very quickly loses budget to do the Mask/Body gimmick every episode which results in most of the show's motw being pretty standard. If I had to rank the Sentai seasons I've seen so far I probably would as such
>Top-Tier: King-Ohger > Timeranger > Gokaiger > Donbrothers > Gekiranger > Carranger > ToQger > Jetman > Abaranger > Dekaranger > Shinkenger > Kakuranger > GoGoFive
>Really Great: Kiramager > Kyoryuger > Go-Busters > Zyuohger > Megaranger > Boukenger > Changeman > Dynaman > Gaoranger > Zenkaiger > Magiranger
>Great: Hurricaneger > Go-Onger > Liveman > Denziman > Goseiger
>Good: Kyuranger > Ohranger > Zyuranger > Dairanger
>Average: Gingaman > Maskman > Flashman
>Mediocre: LuPat
>Really Bad: JAKQ
But it's better to continue this conversation on /ssg/ since it isn't related to Rider, I'm currently alternating between Bioman and Ultra Q depending on my mood. I just can't motivate myself to watch Showa Rider right now even if I know that I'll probably love Stronger given the spoilers I got, Joe's characterization in Spirits and all the action clips I've seen of it being amazing.
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>>23485565
>Kyoryuger not the best Sentai ever made
You must be joking
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>>23485560
Gotchard is almost hilariously bad. The best part of the show hilariously being Legend. Gotchard is best viewed at 2x speed but should not be skipped.
Ghost is underrated as fuck I don't understand why people hate that shit.
>>23485565
With Showa Rider it's kinda important to watch the shows in somewhat of an order because of the build up to Skyrider's show. Which saved Rider.
And you didn't like Flashman either? Dang.
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>>23485538
>Giff is a vagina rock
I meant the Golden trash bag suit rather than the cool ominous statue.
>I chalk that up to the common Rider issue of the different fill-in writers for episodes
The inconsistencies seem to come more from the main writer Kinoshita having different ideas from the director and the producer since the episode writer Mouri didn't write that many episodes.
>Yeah, that happens in real families too, it's actually pretty realistic aside from the actual inner demons showing up. Daiji overcoming his anxiety is one of the best parts of the show.
Personally my problem with his character is that I never found Giff to be that menacing since Ultimate Revi could hold off Giff fairly well and that Over Demons just abandoned him seemingly because a scene was cut, which just made it feel like the cast was being an asshole to him for no reason and that if he had joined the cast and all the Riders ganged up on Giff while Vice entered inside him they would have been able to beat him immediately. I do commend the show for Daiji's duel and his inferiority complex towards Ikki early on being pretty realistic, his actor was also excellent. Also another thing I don't see people mentioning about Revice that I found pretty interesting is how Ikki would not intervene in most fights that his siblings had and instead would resort to allowing them to fix their problems themselves which I found somewhat novel. Still personally hate the show though.
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>>23485573
Makoto didn't really do much and his final arc was essentially nothing, and despite being the breakout character necrom's writing did nothing but regress. The final arc just being a jerkoff contest for Takeru sucked too.
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>>23485560

If I could do it again I'd have skipped Wizard and Build. Just nothing there for me.
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>>23485585
the trash bag to me felt like gold that you'd find unrefined. Pure Gold straight from the rocks.
That too, production conflict can cause a lot of problems. But it still can be enjoyable and I think Revice's story still stood tall after.
With the main conflict, I always felt like it was important to remember that Vice was a demon, even if you know the story is going to work out the threat of Vice being corrupted or a betrayer was still there.
And the Go Tamaki things I just chalk up to people having issues with shy and reserved men
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>>23485573
>And you didn't like Flashman either? Dang.
Yeah, I don't know but Team and action really didn't do it for me, nor did the villains. That said I do like the setting and the final arc was awesome.
>With Showa Rider it's kinda important to watch the shows in somewhat of an order because of the build up to Skyrider's show
I'm aware of that which is why I haven't gone to watch Stronger directly as I want to watch everything leading up to ZX in order, I have every Showa season except Black RX downloaded to watch it once I finally clear my backlog. But like I said my backlog is pretty big, there's just way too much stuff that's considered iconic that I haven't watched yet, picrel is not even counting the stuff I coordinate to watch with my friends.
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>>23485606
>Go Tamaki things I just chalk up to people having issues with shy and reserved men
It's not really that, at least in my case which is what I assume is the case for most people is that Julio didn't get much to do after his redemption arc, which is disappointing considering how likeable he was before it. Like sure he would try to cheer up the cast during critical moments but we know he's more capable than that because of the stuff he did in the first half.
Either way more power to you, I think you're the first anon I've seen is this general that seems to genuinely like Revice. Usually when I see someone "liking" Revice it's a shitposter trying to stir shit, but in your case you seem to actually like the show, which is nice to know since I always feel that every Kamen Rider season is different in its own way so that every season is at least someone's favorite (which it isn't in your case but you know what I mean). I enjoy discussing about different perspectives rather than the usual hivemind behavior that some people try to push here.
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>>23485615
The hell? That's way too early.
I thought that pre-production started in November and formal production started in March. So I guess this means that Zeztz's pre-production period wasn't actually as long as Gavv's or King-Ohger's, which makes the show having 4 producers more confusing.
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>>23485620
I'm not like other anons, I always speak genuinely. my absolute favorites are
>OOO
>Den-O
>W
>Ryuki
In that order
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>>23484924
>Masahiro Murase
That's the same stylist that coordinated Touma's outfits, no wonder his and Baku's look so similar.
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>>23485615
Also exactly 2 months before Gavv wrapped up filming.
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>>23485470
Because Bouche fell in love with her. How and why? We'll never know.
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>>23485538
>As far as the inconsistencies, I chalk that up to the common Rider issue of the different fill-in writers for episodes
Anon, Kinoshita wrote 41 out of the show's 50 episodes.
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What is Granute's main source of diet?
Rock and stone, brother!
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>>23485573
>Gotchard is best viewed at 2x speed but should not be skipped.
Speedwatchers deserve the rope too.
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>>23485653
I guess hang me then
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>>23485606
>the threat of Vice being corrupted or a betrayer was still there
Vice was never going to betray Ikki because they retconned him into caring about his wellbeing since the moment he was born.
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>>23485356
sexo
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>>23485615
Different anon, posting the rest of pic with filming date metadata
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>>23485714
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>>23485715
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>>23485718
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>>23485721
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>>23485295
I know he uses voice filter but that doesn't really sounds like Baku.
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>>23485660
I felt like there was an underlying current of Vice betraying Ikki because of what he is. Even if he personally wouldn't want to do that. Like a Vampire being hungry for blood but abstaining from certain people. Doesn't take away the vampire's hunger.
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>>23485269
i wonder when bandai will find out how to make human shf look good, shoma is probably the shittiest looking yet
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>>23485752
For some reason I have no problem with original Hongo, Retsu Gavan and Dan Ultraseven face sculpt.
Maybe because they aren't really scanning the actors but modeled the face after drawings of the character.
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Now i know why anons hate takebeP, it's because of her that gavv never reach the full potential.
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DANKW WHALE, for the hard work. Hope you enjoy your vacation.
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>https://nyaa.si/view/2013299
>https://nyaa.si/view/2013299
>https://nyaa.si/view/2013299
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I still like 'em as characters. The power is simple, no over the top chunnibait it's just two guys
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>https://izusubs.wordpress.com/2025/08/31/gavv-episode-50-release/
>https://izusubs.wordpress.com/2025/08/31/gavv-episode-50-release/
>https://izusubs.wordpress.com/2025/08/31/gavv-episode-50-release/
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>>23485770
They can create hundreds of clones of themselves and rip holes in spacetime.
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>>23485732
It's just your way of headcanonning the obvious retcons.
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>>23485776
xiexie whale, enjoy the vacation o7
>>23485759
i hadn't seen the dan one, but i do agree about hongo not looking *too* bad, and ankh can honestly look fine depending on the angle
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>>23485769
>>23485776
Thank you Whale! And thanks for another year of subs!
Enjoy your holiday~!
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>>23485785
>i hadn't seen the dan one
he's good for memes at least, at least the actor is in for the jokes
wish they added the Gamer Driver part
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>>23485781
I'm fine with that, I'm not the authority when it comes to Kamen Rider, I'm just an enthusiast. Like what you like.
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>>23485769
>>23485776
Thank you based Whale. Enjoy the reprieve, and hopefully we'll meet again next year.
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>>23485769
>>23485776
Thank you so much for subbing the whole show, Whale!
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>https://izusubs.wordpress.com/2025/08/31/end-of-gavv-future-plans/
>https://izusubs.wordpress.com/2025/08/31/end-of-gavv-future-plans/
>https://izusubs.wordpress.com/2025/08/31/end-of-gavv-future-plans/
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>>23485810
I love you whale.
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This completely went over my head but Hanto is pretty similar to Jiph and Lizel.
He wanted to avenge his mom just like how those wanted to avenge their loved ones.
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>>23485569
Go back
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>>23485861
>>23485861
>>23485861
episode thread
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>>23485810
so, when the episode thread is out, you think someone can post the scenes of Shoma of his forms; from Over/Master to Poppingummy of the fight scenes, and of his bike with the Guracan head?
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>>23485653
Duh, speedwatch is practically the same as skipping the show because why bother in the first place
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>>23485846
This is why you shouldn't speedwatch rider.
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>>23485869
People weren’t wrong to complain.
Hanto taking on Jiip and Lizel is retarded and the conclusion is weak because of Jiiph not doing anything.
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>>23485810
Sad that you might be completely done Whale but thanks so much for all the years of very competent and quick subbing. Enjoy your ever more increasing freedom.
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>>23485810
Thank you so much, Whale-san. Enjoy your vacation!
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>>23485569
Fuck off King cocksucker
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>>23485776
>>23485810
>>23485769
Thank you so much for subbing this year, hope you enjoy your vacation if you're taking one. Please know that most people here appreciate your work and that you've definitely earned a break.
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>>23485770
Even though I loathe Revice, I like Revi's color scheme, that includes his Q1 forms too even if anons her feel they should be in original Rider's color schemes.
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>>23485776
>>23485810
>>23485769
My foaking hero, I'm going to miss Gavv and your subs, you're easily the best subber we've gotten for Rider
Enjoy your break!
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>>23485165
To me, it feels so somber because it's a bunch of individuals who don't need to be fighting, yet are forced to due to a clash in ideologies.
Shoma and Lango could have reconciled, recognizing that they were both victims of their lineage. But Lango refused to accept that, his family name meant more to him than his personal joy.
Jiip and Lizel could have walked away from the fight and embraced their newfound love for each other, but their lust for revenge led to a tragic end for Jiip. This reinforces the idea that the cycle of revenge can only be broken if you're willing to walk away from it.
However, I think the execution felt lacking
The direction of the episode is bad. Even in a show where the visual effects usually range from mediocre to okay, the VFX in this episode were remarkably bad.
Gavv vs. Lango fight, in particular, was poorly conceptualized. Even if we accept that Lango lost his auto-defense ability when Master Gavv defeated him earlier, he still had super speed. After Shoma loses the Gochipod, there’s no reason Lango wouldn’t abuse his speed to overwhelm him, but he conveniently forgot about that.
I love form-spam final battles where they start with their strongest form and slowly whittle away until they finish in base form but come on, you have to make it look convincing. Nothing in the battle made it look like Lango was struggling as much as Gavv, so the final Rider kick felt weird and abrupt.
Valen's battle was better. It had more of Gavv’s signature creativity and it was satisfying to see Hanto taking on multiple boss-tier enemies by himself.
Really, they tried to squeeze too much into 24 minutes, and it suffered because of it. Gavv vs. Lango deserved to be an epic, drawn-out, emotionally grueling battle, and we just didn’t get that here.
Still a good ending overall, and the show as a whole is peak. Despite its flaws, this is still the best Reiwa-era series yet, and it’s going to be hard to top. I’ll definitely miss this show.
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>>23485900
I'll miss you forever Dente your death was so garbage :(
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>>23485810
>this may very well be my last time subbing an ongoing show
Reading that honestly made me sad, but I get it. You deserve it. See you around, Whale.
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>>23485776
whale you're sex
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i kinda regret not keeping up with gavv this year. i've been hearing good things, and the suits imo look really nice too. starting from build i watched every season weekly, but skipped out on gotchard's last few episodes and avoided gavv for its entirety.
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>>23485915
Gavv overall was a really good time, especially coming off the utter mediocrity that was Gotchard.
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>>23485915
It's not bad taking breaks to avoid burnout, specially in a year like this one where a lot of good anime released making it hard to keep up with Rider at times, that said Gavv is a fun time, the villains aren't good and there's some other issues but it manages to be entertaining all the way through, personally it's the most fun I've had with a Rider season since Build

>>23485913
Tell me about it
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>>23485810
You were awesome man, thank you for the past year! Like other anons said, it does suck that you're probably done with subbing overall since your subs were definitely the best but I'm glad you're gonna get a break and hopefully you'll still stick around on /krg/.
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>>23485905
>Shoma and Lango could have reconciled, recognizing that they were both victims of their lineage. But Lango refused to accept that, his family name meant more to him than his personal joy.
Lango was a one-note villain from beginning to end and Shouma never felt compelled to help his family with their crimes, there was no way in hell they would've reconciled and the show never made it a convincing possibility.
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>>23485915
Don't worry too much, it was another one of those shows that peaked early and failed to deliver afterwards. It just got more disappointing as it went on.
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>>23485165
waste of time, dunno what these "best in reiwa" anons are smoking but I guess whatever floats their boat
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>>23485565
I haven't watched Sentai in years (basically after Gokaiger) and only really seen the 2000s Heisei one (Timeranger onward), is King-Ohger really that good?
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>>23485905
>Gavv vs. Lango deserved to be an epic, drawn-out, emotionally grueling battle, and we just didn’t get that here.
Honestly, I'm kinda glad it didn't get drawn out too much. Lango could've been such a great and charismatic villain, I was even hyped for the team up with the Riders against Bocca and kinda hoping that he'd get a redemption just because I liked his scenes casually interacting with the cast especially Sachika. But he kinda ended up being a one note villain and the fight against Gavv was still cool, but honestly I wish Jiip wasn't around at all to cement that Shouma and Lango were the last Stomachs surviving.

Jiip didn't deserve to survive until the finale, he just sucks so much ass, but I do like how they left Lizel with a potential redemption arc (unless they plan to just keep her evil and kill her in the V-Cinema). Honestly, it would've been perfect to include her in Girls Remix instead of Glotta and would've been interesting to give the hero side the upper hand by being the only other person able to transform aside from Majade if they went with the redemption.
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>>23485941
It's the best Sentai if you're more of a Riderfag and/or Shonenfag than you are a Sentaifag.
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>>23485934
>>23485936
Mindbroken by gummy.
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>>23485948
More like mindbroken by mediocrity.
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>>23485942
Lizel redemption arc is fine in my book, since she was never really evil as much as a spoiled mafia princess without a proper developed moral compass, and it kinda ties back to the Stomach who's too stuck in their ways to change. Being stuck in the human world for months would help build some kind of empathy.

>>23485945
I started as a Sentaifag since I grew up watching 2000s Sentai, and only started watching Rider because of the Shinkenger crossover with Decade (and older Heisei riders being accessible through TV-N). The episodic writing of Sentai got kinda stale after a while for me, though shows like Geki, Time and Shinkenger still held up well. But Rider has been a bit stale as well recently so maybe I'll check out KingOhger.
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>>23485951
Keep crying.
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>He's not trying out some SRS (Spit Roasting Stone)
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>>23485952
>Lizel redemption arc is fine in my book, since she was never really evil as much as a spoiled mafia princess without a proper developed moral compass
She had an obsession with broken things, she told Shouma to make Jiip suffer because he looked cuter when he was suffering and it clearly disturbed him. Also held the same apathy the other villains had for humans and poor Granutes, telling her dad that eating snacks made in human buildings was disgusting, and her dad reassured her by telling her only the poor would be given those Treats.
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>>23485957
Nice projection.
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Just like Build, I'll miss Gavv as well.
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>>23485965
I'll look back overall fondly on it
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>>23485963
She's meant to be a spoiled kid with 0 sense of right and wrong because of who her dad is, and she's never given the chance to actually change. Things like

>telling her dad that eating snacks made in human buildings was disgusting, and her dad reassured her by telling her only the poor would be given those Treats.

just reinforces that, because its clear her warped views of human being lifestock and poor Granute being useless just comes from her dad who's the typical evil politician 'the only thing worse than being dead is being poor" type. The falling of the Stomach is that its just a fucked up family, and when given the chance to change and realize their wrongdoing they doubled down because that's how they were raised and it was too late (well, its mainly Glotta but its implied badly for the others).

With her dad dead and her stuck in the human world, this is the first time she's actually living out on her own without the safety net of her father.
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Why are Gavvfrens obsessed with Build and Gotchard? It's almost like those are the only other shows they've watched.
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Ok so if Whale isn't going to sub Zeztz, who will?
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>>23485976
Geo.
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>>23485975
I don't like Gotchard, bro.
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>>23485976
Toei is commissioning Shout! to simulcast sub it officially, while Ei and Geo are seemingly going to be fansubbing it as well.
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>>23485964
Yeah, cope.
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>Father jobbed to Shoma
>Boyfriend jobbed to Hanto
>And now you can't even return to your world because that jellyfish fucker cut off all access between Granute and human world
Being Lizel is suffering
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>>23485973
She came off as way more evil than the Stomachs and even her own dad, they committed evil for pragmatic reasons like keeping their status or climbing the social ladder. But Lizel actively relished on people's suffering, especially the suffering of people close to her like her husband and her in-laws. That's why her redemption in the show doesn't work.
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>>23485573
If Gotchard is bad, Ghost is dogshit, horrible cast and horrible story, people only cope by saying they enjoy alain or the vcinema but that's it
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>>23485976
Tv-Nihon
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>>23485978
That's not the issue, the issue is that it's the only other show Gavvfags can name besides Build. There's plenty of bad and mediocre shows between Build and Gavv, but somehow it's like Gotchard is the only bad show they know and also the worst one by far even though Revice is right there.
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>>23485978
Nobody with good taste likes Gotchard.
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>>23485165
Probably my favorite out of the Reiwa seasons (though that isn't saying too much).
The Shouma+Hanto+Lakia trio was pretty good, but the villains were mostly underwhelming outside of Lango and Nyelv.
The last fights were a pretty big letdown, so it kind of ends on a low note.
7.5/10
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>>23485975
Inferiority complex, the smugness Gavvginas felt was crushed hard when they saw how much the Goshitzos were flopping, and Build is what Gavv aspired to be but clearly failed at, even giving us shittier Kazumin in the form of Rakia "daru" "muh comel"
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>>23485983
Stomach are evil because they actively chose and double down on being evil for "pragmatic" reasons. They know human are sentient beings and genetically compatible enough for them to mate with, they treat their half-human brother like shit just for being human, and they're too emotionally stunted to behave in any other way.

Lizel is evil because she doesn't know any better. She's like the twins as kids where she's copying the behavior of the only authority figure she has (her dad), who's just straight out an evil scumbag politician. She's not even handed a redemption arc, she's allowed to live so she can actually live life and build her own experience and form opinions for the first time outside of being a spoiled princess. She has no empathy for the poor and human because she lived all her life in an environment where its impossible to build empathy.
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>>23485998
*fistbumps you*
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Would you rather choose the second half of Revice or Gotchard?
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>>23485165
It was good, and the best action we have gotten in a long time.
However, it lacked taste at the end, and the endgame was too bland.
Gordon Ramsay
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>>23485983
>>23486003
Like, the whole double downing on evil thing is half the story. Shouma's catchphrase is literally giving part-timers an ultimatum, you either give up dark treats or I'm putting you into the ground. Lakia gave up on seeking revenge and instead joined up with Shouma because he was inflicting the same pain to the f&f of human he kidnap as he was going through when his brother went missing.

Shouma gave the ultimatum to the twins to live and let live because he realized they were neglected as kids as well and their mistreatment of him is just copying the older family members in an attempt to fit in, they double downed and got Shiita killed. Glotta just tried to murder her way out of actually feeling the loss of her family despite Dente giving her an out and got herself killed. Nyelv double downed on trying to get revenge on Bouche despite also being abused as a kids because his personal happiness identity is warped around the Stomach family. And ultimately so did Lango.
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>>23485776
Danke Whale, you are the GOAT
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>>23486016
I feel like it didn't need the cape. Other than that it looks great. Blizzard Sorbet was already a great suit
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>>23485998
Neither do people with shit taste like the Gavvfags.
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This is retarded I'm out.
I'm going to catch up on Showa and series I missed.
But maybe itll be easy to catch or RIP or whatever
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>>23485925
>hopefully you'll still stick around on /krg/.
Why would he stick around in this shithole? This place only gets worse year-on-year
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>>23486021
There's no way someone won't reupload to cat site almost immediately
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>>23486029
This. There will always be a way to pirate it.
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>No end-of-show surprise P-Bandai announcements for Gavv (aside from the uncanny Shouma SHF)
Surprised
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>>23486003
>She's like the twins as kids where she's copying the behavior of the only authority figure she has (her dad)
Bocca isn't obsessed with making people suffer like Lizel, he does what he does to increase his influence like the Stomachs. In theory, she should be like the Stomach siblings since they were also raised by pragmatically evil people.
>She's not even handed a redemption arc, she's allowed to live so she can actually live life and build her own experience and form opinions for the first time outside of being a spoiled princess
If she gives up on being evil, especially after an emotional catharsis, that's a redemption arc. How many layers of cope are you on?
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Was the reason Papa Stomach got a human wife ever stated? Was he just into exotic pussy?
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>>23486044
>reason
I mean it's like asking people who are genuinely into bestiality irl why they're into it. There is no comprehensible reason possible
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Why did Gavv ended so bad
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>>23486041
Kids are fucking cruel, that's why you have stories of kids abusing animals and ripping off bugs wings and that shit, empathy is learnt. She's raised in an environment where she's never been given a chance to learn empathy because the only authority in her life has none. She's exactly like the Stomach kids, except that they got their chance to change and double downed on what they're already doing, she's only given the chance now when Hanto chose to walk away rather than continue to perpetuate the cycle of vengeance.

Anon you're failing to comprehend writings on a show made for 10 years old kids.
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>>23485985
both dogshit, it's fukuda& hasegawa love child..only saber is okay
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>>23486048
Try saying that again in English
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>>23486041
>>23486052
It being a kid show is really relevant as well because kids and teenagers nowadays are fucking cruel, just ask any teachers or check teachers forum. These Gen Alpha kids raised on screens are empathy deficient as hell because they were never taught empathy.
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>>23486066
Explains the absolute state of recent /krg/ year to year
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Uh oh Goshartschizo is having a melty.
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>>23486069
Summerfags is as old as this site, but there's a clear decline across the board in the last 10 or so years.
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>>23485810
Thank you Whale.
You were consistent, you didn't do it for attention or glory or anything, you were good, and you didn't get embroiled in any retarded subgroup drama or try to preach any message, or be tethered down by any purity testers that could've formed around you.

You just did your thing, I don't think that was amateur, it was pretty damn professional for a one man job.
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>>23486052
And the copes just keep on coming. Lizel is not a kid, she's old enough to get married, just like Jiip. The way you've been putting it, she shouldn't be much different from the Stomachs, and going by that logic, it's a mystery why she turned out more cruel and psychopathic than them until her forced redemption. If they really wanted to make it believable then they should have toned down her psychopathy from the get go and built up to her redemption over a longer period of time rather than the last few episodes. They had plenty of time, she was there for nearly half the show.
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>>23485996
>>23486019
Why are you mad? Are you perhaps getting so worked up because anons mocking your favorite show, gotchardfags?
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>>23486066
>muh Gen Alpha
The cope is strong with this one.
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>>23486080
The point is that she's a womanchild raised to marriable age without developing any form of empathy because she never needed to. Kids grow out of their cruelty because empathy is taught.

And its clear that she's at a marriable age, same for Jiip in the sense that 13-14 years old are married off for politics, from their behavior. And if she isn't, it reinforces the womanchild daddy's girl behavior that she never grew out of because she never had to.
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What is K? What's will all the forgotten plot points? What the fuck just happened?
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>>23486090
V-Cinema and novel, like every other dropped plot points in other shows.
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>>23485374
FUCKING HELL KOMURA WHY CAN'T YOU WRITE GOOD ENDGAME LIKE SABER I HATE YOU I DESPISE YOU FUCK YOU KOMURA FUCCKKK YYIUUOOO FUCCCKKKK
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>>23486089
>The point is that she's a womanchild
Oh, so she's not a kid now. You're honestly not making a good case for the show here if you have to tweak your flawed arguments with every new post you make.
>And its clear that she's at a marriable age, same for Jiip in the sense that 13-14 years old are married off for politics, from their behavior.
Neither was married off, Jiip literally ran away to avoid that, they met each other by chance, took a liking for each other, and willingly decided to marry at some point.

Anyways, none of this is really getting at the core of the problem, which is the fact that Lizel's redemption wasn't executed well. All the Stomach siblings aside from Lango felt more redeemable than her.
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>>23485565
Question, did komura sentai have some sort of rushed/near bad ending? Just curious when compared to gavv
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Uh oh Gavvginas are having a melty.
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>>23485165
When it first came out, my son, who is 9 and speaks no Japanese, in a few weeks had the whole intro song memorized. We sang it everywhere we went.

I think it’s the happiest Kamen Rider season we’ve ever had. Going to miss it soooo much. This is a kids show afterall.
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>>23486093
The V-Cinema's villain is some random Granute that wants to kill Lizel and most Reiwa shows don't have novels.
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>>23486035
It's not uber popular in japan like geats or gotchard.
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>>23485573
Gotchard is nowhere near as bad as Ghost was. Gotchard is at best mid. Ghost never reaches that level its a garbage show with a garbage story and garbage characters. It's beyond me how they fucking hired Fukuda to come back and do another Rider show after the absolute steaming pile of shit that Ghost was. They should be calling Urobochi and Muto back instead.
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>>23486113
That's very cute, anon.
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>>23486105
>>23486041
>Kids are fucking cruel, that's why you have stories of kids abusing animals and ripping off bugs wings and that shit, empathy is learnt. She's raised in an environment where she's never been given a chance to learn empathy because the only authority in her life has none.

I pointed out that her behavior is because she's never been taught empathy because of the environment where she's raised. Kids don't naturally grow out of being dickheads, empathy is taught. Growing up in an environment where you're spoiled for everything you'd ever want by someone that don't see the poor as people = no empathy.

The whole point I'm trying to make from the start is that she's given the same chance the Stomach kids did, and it ties back to the same chance Shoma gives to every part timer. Give it up and repent, or get kicked. The only difference between her and the Stomach kid is that when faced with self reflection they instead double down on their evil, whereas she's now for the first time left alone without her dad and actually form life experience, and actually self reflect. Which is how empathy develop in kids in the first place.

I don't agree that the redemption arc isn't executed well, because there's no redemption arc in the first place. There's breadcrumb left for one to follow up in the V-Cinema, and she's in the trailer.
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>>23486052
>a show made for 10 years old kids
They didn't know about that
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>>23486128
Urobuchi sure, but Muto was a one trick pony. His show was genuinely stellar up until the halfway mark. The rest after that was carried by the cast, not his writing. Hell, The Build novel is STILL in limbo too.
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>>23485157
They shouldn't have the next rider cameo in the last ep. Isn't that what the movie's for?
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>>23486128
oh no, he's retarded:(
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>>23486139
To be completely fair, Omori write/co-write a lot of the novel in his produced series, so it might not entirely be his fault its completely dead in the water.

As for Butcher, I thought he was done with everything other than puppets, but they announced him for a Edgerunner-type Ghost of Tsushima spin-off recently. Haganeya Jin is a freelancer nowadays as well and he's been writing all of the Gaim post-series content and novels, I'd be up for a series written by him rather than another Takahashi series in 5 years.
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>>23486106
Zenkaiger was really rushed but not bad, basically the guy who had been the main antagonist for most of the show is defeated in a single episode anticlimactically, he was being manipulated by his pet bird, whoever because the bird's voice actor was fired from the show due to some controversy, the producer Shirakura took this as an opportunity to retcon it and change the bird backstory into something else which makes the final arc feel even more rushed, but it still hit most of the emotional beats really well and has a satisfying final fight so it isn't bad.
Lupin VS Patranger has an horrible final arc, but the final two episodes are decent. That said the arc isn't rushed at all, the plot is just extremely bad.
Zyuohger has a good final arc/finale.
All that said, if you're looking for a common bad pattern in Komura's toku it has to be that most of the villains stay underdeveloped plus the show only focuses on a handful of characters, the rushness in Gavv seems to come from poor planning after some changes in the production's direction.

>>23485941
It's Sentai's Build in the sense that it has an ambitious setting with serialized storytelling that's slightly more mature than most modern seasons, the shows in general feel really similar due to them being done by the same producer. Whoever I still feel that Timeranger is the best Sentai objectively, I just found King-Ohger's team dynamic and plot to be better, but Timeranger's cast, final arc and cast are far superior. Like every toku just go in without expectations and have fun, all of these shows are so different from each other it's hard to pinpoint what someone would usually like.
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>>23486128
>Gotchard is at best mid
Anon, you need to rephrase that if you mean to say that Gotchard's not a bad show. Because saying it's mid at best implies that on average it's worse than mid, AKA bad, like Ghost.
>It's beyond me how they fucking hired Fukuda to come back and do another Rider show after the absolute steaming pile of shit that Ghost was.
Sales recovered a bit from Drive's dip during Ghost. And he was one of Taka-P's contacts.
>They should be calling Urobochi and Muto back instead.
Urobuchi didn't seem to have a very good time writing Gaim given how much he talked about the ideas of his that got turned down by Takebe and the execs. And the only producer Muto worked with left Toei.
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>>23486147
Urobuchi already expressed in an interview years ago that while he enjoyed and appreciated the opportunity to write for a Rider show, he didn't exactly enjoy all the fandangling he had to do around the toys and interference from the suits on the show's direction. Gaim's final episode wasn't by him either.
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>>23485979
Fansubs stopped doing the colored moving text thing(their best quality) and Shout doesn't do it either, so we don't need em
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>>23486154
Basically all the movies, crossover and everything from the final episode onward is Haganeya Jin, coworker at Nitro+ (guy that wrote Demonbane). He's a freelancer now, and considering he went back to write the Zangetsu stage show nearly a decade after Gaim, he's clearly still interested in Toku
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>>23486151
>Anon, you need to rephrase that if you mean to say that Gotchard's not a bad show. Because saying it's mid at best implies that on average it's worse than mid, AKA bad, like Ghost.
Gotchard is a bad show that at least sometimes it reaches the level of being mid. Ghost on the other hand is always bad.
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>>23486132
What we're getting in the V-Cin is the aftermath of her redemption, not the lead up to it.
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Good on Gavv keeping dead people dead. Definitely appreciated that
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>>23486171
Glotta's coming back in Girls Remix.
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>>23486174
That's not the show, people reviving in specials ultimately doesn't matter
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I kind of hope Gavv gets more than one V-Cinema. I wouldn't mind Lakia getting one dedicated to him
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Say what you will about Chocoman but how many secondaries have taken out multiple bosses?
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The episode felt a bit too short, everything happened too fast imo. But for an ending it was great, most of my predictions become true, as the ending wasn't really aiming to be a grand finale but rather to tie some loose ends. And for a series that revolves around addiction, it's a great detail for some part timers to be stuck in the human world, basically having no reason for them to ever harm another human.
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>>23486180
He might job to hell and back, but Hanto definitely earns that "indomitable spirit" moniker. I've always liked that about him
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>>23486174
Even then, people who got turned into Treats stayed dead. Many shows before have backpedalled on the civilian/VOTW casuaities. Shouma's mum staying dead from start to finish is also rare
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>>23486180
Considering he spent most of the show groveling on the floor in pain, beating Suga and Jiip is a drop in the bucket especially when Suga's rider system deteriorated him and Jiip was defending some dumb ho
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Gavv status?
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>>23486187
Concluded
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>>23486185
I legit thought that some fucker would be about and Shouma's and Hanto's mom would turn out to be alive and come back at the end. Surprised it didn't happen. I was also waiting for Hanto's detective teacher to show up alive as well.
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>>23486187
Pretty damn good.
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>>23486187
Still very fond of the overall package. Gavv and Geats are my top 2 Reiwa
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>>23486180
Suga was lucky that Shouma never pulled Sorbet on him and Lakia was busy cleaning up his clones, and Jiip never won a single fight after episode 13.
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>>23486187
Fell off and never got fully back up.
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>>23486196
I lowkey liked Jeebh being a miserable loser from start to finish. The show never pretended to act like anything he did was actually smart or made him stronger.
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>>23486185
>Shouma's mum staying dead from start to finish is also rare
Not really, dead backstory characters tend to stay dead. It's the ones that die in the present that tend to get revived.
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>>23486187
gavv wa endo
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>>23486187
Best season since Build
For real this time
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>>23486202
I don't, because his arc went nowhere.
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Gavv reception on Baidu is fucking brutal after that mess of a finale. And with that, the chink memed Gavv as the 4th member of the horse(shit)men lmao. (inb4 why gotchard isn't on the list, its because these meme is referring to a "waste of time" series, promising good start, end with massive wet fart. the chink hated gotchard from the start).

https://c.tieba.baidu.com/p/9997949371?pn=1
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>>23486224
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH
I feel vindicated at long last
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>>23486224
Chinese netizens are just as brutal as Japanese ones it seems, maybe even more so.
So many suddenly going against Gavv because the finale wasn't great. Really wonder if adding Guilty Parfait as a post-finale watch will do anything to scrounge up a bit more good will.
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An anticlimactic end to an underwhelming show. I've never seen something so allergic to drama, every conflict was solved within the episode or two of it coming up. Almost like an anti-Faiz.
Months would go by with seemingly nothing happening, yet we still have a ton of dropped plot threads and characters that are being saved for V-Cinemas instead of the actual fucking show.
Not to say Gavv was bad, but if the Caking arc wasn't as good as it was I'd call it Boonboomger-tier.
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>>23486226
>vindicated by Chink opinions
You're proud of that?
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>>23486224
Lol what? They liked Gotchard and Saber?? Sasuga bug shit taste.
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>>23486226
>Feeling good because bugs have same taste
Ok.
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>>23485374
>>23485765
>>23486224
takebeP and komura's fault obviously..both of them should stay clear from rider, ruin sentai instead
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>>23486224
Oh yeah, the show's rating on bilibili took a significant hit in the latter half of the show, going from around 9.5 to 8.5, I can only imagine it will go down after this last episode. I did see talks on Baidu about Gavv potentially joining the "Three Mythical Gods" of Reiwa (Zero-One, Revice and Geats) to become the "The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" and seems like that got cemented with the finale. Regardless of my personal opinion on these shows, I find the Chinks' memes and esoteric figures of speech deeply amusing.
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>>23486241
Chinese memes are fucking weird as shit and definitely make me laugh. I love their cat meme shitposts.
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>>23486241
They seriously thought Gotchard and Saber were better? Seriously???
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Saber > Gavv > Geats > Zero-One > Gotchard > Revice
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>>23486234
reading comprehension retard. such is the trait of gavvfag.
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>>23486224
Gavv was always a pile of shit, dunno why chinks took so long to realize
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>>23486246
Can't you form your own opinion? Are you a child?
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>>23486248
Saber definitely had the best ending of any Reiwa season, plus the best V-Cinext.
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>>23486224
Chinks love Gotchard though, that's why the sped up the release of the Blokees.
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Maybe /krg/ are mostly Chinese all along. No wonder everyone's opinions are horseshit
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>>23486252
Retard. I am just wondering if they thought those were better. Has nothing to do with forming my opinion on anything. Stop being a mongoloid and don't reply to me if you can't comprehend a fucking question.
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>>23486224
Imagine thinking Gavv's ending deserves to be on the same level as those piles of shit
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>>23486234
>They liked Gotchard
It has the same score on bilibili as Gavv currently. The users on Baidu don't tend to speak very positively of any Reiwa show aside from Saber, they share the most common complaints the people here have about the shows, even Saber is commonly agreed to have a weak start despite being one of the more popular shows over there.
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>>23486234
>>23486246
>referring to waste of time series with good start and bad end
>post literally explained why gotchard isn't on the list
>"LOL GOTCHARD AND SABER??"
Fucking illiterate brainlet. And no matter how much you tried to shitpost it, Saber is the only reiwa series that was actually improved as the time goes on.
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so who's subbing zeztz for us eurochads haha
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>>23486090
>>23486093
It's not really a "dropped" plot point in that it was never really meant to be followed upon. For the most part Komura doesn't develop her villains, I think she approaches it as "this is not their show" so they don't get much screentime. She at most puts a small piece of lore before they die that explains/implies what their deal is. It's most prominent Zyuohger and now Gavv.
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>>23486269
This is him. >>23486265
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>>23486246
>They seriously thought Gotchard and Saber were better?
Saber yes, Gotchard no. The reason why Gotchard isn't part of that group is because that group is specifically made up of shows that started great and declined in quality the longer they went on. Gotchard still gets clowned on and is still part of the memes about Touma using his powers to make the endings of the other Reiwa shows shit, I also saw an edit of the scene where Zonb shits on Nyelv with Saber's faced pasted onto the former and 5 Nyelvs with the faces of the other Reiwa Riders.
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>>23486276
You didn't see shit liar.
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>>23486269
>>23486272
>missed to post context because incapable to read
>got corrected
>"S-SABER GLAZER!!"
Let me guess? SEAMonkey nigger? Literally the post above me explained the same thing. Saber is a series with bad start and is later improved. Hence why the chink doesn't put it on the list, holy mega retard-chama.
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>>23486259
If /krg/ was mostly chinks there wouldn't be seeing so many people trying to defend Gavv and its wet fart of a finale. Unless you think those are samefags.
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>>23486278
Lmao.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9942464851
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>>23486224
kekkaroooo
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>>23486313
Professional haters. /krg/'s brethren.
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>>23486322
/krg/ unironically has nothing on asian fans
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>>23486313
Retarded ass chiggas
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>>23486327
They went to university to take courses on professionally hating on things.
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>>23486313
Based. Takahashi can't write shit.
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>>23486336
He really doesn't have a recent good track record. Going into Zeztz with subdued optimism but I really wish they would have picked somebody else instead of immediately going back to Takahashi.
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>>23486224
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>>23486340
You say he doesn't have a good track record but literally every season he's made has been super successful and has lots of fans.
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>>23486340
Baku already getting BTFO in the fucking cameo made me lose hope desu
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>>23486351
He's literally basing Baku's IRL luck on Ryoutarou's.
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>>23486343
They're not going to see this, anon, you're wasting your time.
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>>23486347
Pretty sure he was referring to writing quality, not success. But yeah, that explains why he got picked back up so quickly.
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>>23486359
Ryotaro just had plain bad luck, Baku literally gets punished every time he does a good deed.
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>>23486370
Where do you get that? Because a UFO shocked him once?
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Seriously, what maked this attack landed and kill lango? Shoma used master kick and failed to kill lango yet this puny kick does? It's not even aimed at the neck or chest, just lango's arm smdh
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>>23486373
He landed a crit
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>>23486372
It's in the character's description.
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23416233/#23416750
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>>23486372
Literally this
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>>23486373
The whole fight is full blown plot armor and asspull. At least Gotchard finale still got the "muh magic" aspect, but this one just baffled me. So much so given how powerscaling in Gavv was used to be consistent.
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So, what was so bad about the finale? Lango's defeat??
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They did a great job making the Vrastumgear feels desirable, I'll give them that. Most years the secondary/tertiary items eventually start to feel like bargain bin afterthoughts
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>>23486377
Fuck you, i'm looking for an exact reason not some bullshit
Then again komura can only wrote bullshit so it's my fault to expect some god tier writing
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>>23486384
This year’s Q2 belt, YezzDriver is an exclusive belt for a character whose actor has quite a sizeable fanbase that will collect items related to him. I expect the YezzDriver will be as hard to come by as Vrastum Gear.
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>>23485770
Nah, they are terrible characters.
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>Kills Jeep
>Steals his wife when they start having genuine feelings for each other
Damn Hanto is a cruel man
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>>23485769
>>23485810
Thank you for your subs as always based Whale, and enjoy your deserved vacation.
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Anyone else annoyed by villain deaths now being saved to the very last minute and most going without any proper explanation for their motives?
At that point just have a cast of all mindless monsters, you wouldn't have to bother attempting to write backstories when it's clear you never wanted to
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>don't supervise the writers close enough
>they start making hanto and shouma gay
>panic when they realize it slipped through
>make hanto go after lizel after the show ends instead
based john toei
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>>23485168
It looks fucking beautiful compared to the majority of the other V-Cinema forms on offer. Valvarad GT looks like an utter travesty in comparison.
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>>23486373
Achilles armpit
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>>23486419
>get so obsessed with da gae that you completely forget to give the villains motives
>make bocca a Trump reference to save face
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>>23486403
>Berserker form is a fusion of Yezz and Zeztz a la Mebius Brave
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>>23486373
>>23486392
Lango and Shouma spent the entire day trading blows (like it's night by the time they're finishing) so they're like at 1 HP each by the time of the final blow, which Shouma connects first.
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>>23486413
>the warning to scram back to the Granute world actually about NTR
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Not a hearty script as it is full of plotholes
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>>23486413
Will Jeebh's humiliation ever end?
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>>23486430
If you say that then why lango looks very healthy, even succeed to knock shoma out of transformations?
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>>23486430
In the production notes, it also mentions Lango's plan was to bleed Shouma dry of forms in a battle of attrition, knowing that a lot of his better ones ran on time limits or other limitations.
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>>23486439
Say that again in English, please
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Did you liked the Stomachs more than the Sonozakis
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>>23486224
Chinese have dogshit taste in tokusatsu.
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>>23486442
Absolutely not. But I'm perfectly fine with the Stomachs as is.
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>>23485165
Typical Komura. The first quarter was great but she fumbled the ball as expected in Q2 which led to a lot of poorly developed or dropped plotlines and one of the most nothing villain groups Rider has ever seen. The entire last quarter felt like a mad scramble to the finish as multiple characters that should have had more focus and attention (e.g. Suga) were unceremoniously swept aside and their subplots forgotten. The Bitter Gavv clone arc dragged the entire series down and it never managed to recover. The stakes never felt meaningful or impactful because you just didn't give a shit about Stomach Inc both as villains and as characters and it never felt like they were really doing all that much damage.
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>>23485168
I'm both disappointed it isn't a Caking kitbash because chocolate cake seemed like an obvious choice and glad it isn't a Caking kitbash because that means the suit still lives.
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>>23485936
It's a testament to how fucking bad the rest of Reiwa is. Gavv wins being the only one that didn't show up with a hangover.
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>>23486439
What? By the time of the final attack they both had been reduced to punching and kicking each other. No gimmicks or weapons. They were clearly spent.
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>>23486431
Never ask the Granute hater the race of his Gf
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>make a huge deal about trying to capture west with KR
>the pirates will have an easier time watching than the newbies that just want to stream
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>>23486462
Good. Things should've always just stayed in Shirakura-turning-a-blind-eye territory
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>>23486440
>>23486457
Ah i see, thanks for the clearance. Still retarded though, as shoma knew that caking is practically immortal. He should use it, and be the one that lands the kill shot, also it would fit thematically.
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>>23486466
>shoma knew that caking is practically immortal
It also drains his stamina faster and isn't exactly the most durable form either. Not exactly the best option for a drawn out battle
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>>23486469
But the attack power is higher than regular gummy, so i think it would be better to choose caking.
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Did Jiib accomplish anything? His melties got his family and the president of his world killed. He couldn't even win a fight against the king of jobbers.
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>>23486248
>Gavv > Zero-One > Geats > Gotchard > Revice = Saber
Fixed
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>>23486255
where's Blokees Majade then
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God, what a wet fart of an ending for such a good series. Me and my friend who watched just kind of... Deflated, while watching it. Things resolved, but in an unsatisfying way to us. Especially the drawn out battle.
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>>23486473
For me it's
>Gavv > Geats > Zero-One > Saber > Gotchard >= Revice
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>>23486477
Yeah it's definitely one of the least good endings we've gotten in recent years. It felt rushed, but also too slow?
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>>23486044
he's just a whore thirsty for cattle pussy
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>>23486474
Shut the fuck up already, Max.
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>Good Q1, falls off the rest of the show

why does Reiwa have this problem?
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>>23486472
His ruined the family business almost single-handedly
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>Bocca and Nyelv get rushed through with 3 episodes each
>Jiip gets half the season
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>>23486487
>Saber had such a god awful q1 that people dropped it
>Manages to have one of the best endings.
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>>23486224
/krg/ actually treating chink opinion seriously never stop being funny for me
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Urobuchi could film himself taking a shit and Gaimtards would call it peak just cos it's Urobuchi
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Jeebh throwing his shoulder pad to his sword to cut the ice was pretty fuckin cool.
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>>23486502
If it connects with their dislike of a series they're all in on outside opinion
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rewatching ooo
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>>23486487
It's because they always have the final boss usurped by someone else, then BOTH of them die several episodes before the actual end of the show. Bring back the Kia times, where Japanese Bowie stuck it out right until the end, or Faiz, where they could barely even put the final boss into a coma.
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>>23486506
Agreed. Which makes it even funnier because the Chinese Tokufans have for some reason gone full retard and started to shit on Gavv by over exaggerating certain flaws of Gavv and labelling those who enjoy it as heretics.
Which, weirdly enough, is exactly similar with certain shitposting low life faggots in /krg/.
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>>23486493
>best ending in reiwa
Such a low bar
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>TTFC Interview
Regarding adjustment to the plot structure
>Takebe: Originally, the idea was to have the Stomach family disappear early in the story, with a mafia-like organization emerging from the Granute world. But after watching the filming, I realized how charming the Stomach siblings were, so I suggested to let them live longer (laughs).
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9999034738
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>>23486550
Once again Komura was used as a scapegoat for a change that Takebe herself made.
Really should've brought in that second villain group, guys.
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>>23486550
TTFC: Lango's "What?" line becomes a trending topic on social media
>Takebe: Mr. Tsukamoto's character, Lango, sparked a heated discussion with his "What?" line, even sending "Lango nii-san" to the top of global trending charts. While it wasn't intentional, it's truly gratifying to see such a positive response. Ms. Komura commented that in other Tsukamoto works, "not only does he display a rebellious streak, but he also occasionally reveals a subtle sense of being manipulated." Therefore, we intentionally gave Lango an expression like he was biting a bitter insect, framing the character in this direction.
TLDR: Takebe knew about Lango's "What?" meme
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>>23486444
Same can be applied to japanese and yet here we are.
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Yo! Gavv 50 is now on the Reiwa Rider Drive(r)! Thanks to Whale for the last year of subs! I hope you enjoy your break Whale!
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>>23486601
Thanks for your services once again reiwanon. I'd guess you'll be up for uploading Zeztz as well? (Shout isn't archiving anything, but at least Ei/Geo are doing fansubs.)
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>>23486604
Yup! I'll just be doing my thing as normal. Depending on board reactions to the official subs I'll just upload rips of the livestreams that pop up on the cat site.
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>>23486493
saber stayed bad
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>>23486610
Oh good they're reviving all the dead people (including Dente!) for the final stage.
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>>23486570
OK then rank in order of taste in toku do you think is the shittiest?

NA
British
European (minus French)
French
LatAm
Japan
China
SEA
India
Arab
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>>23486202
He was a loser that found love. The final fight teaming with Lizel against Hanto was awesome in that it felt like a real couple fighting together. And Lizel wasn't treated like a guy in a female suit. She fought like a woman would. And Jeebh saving her from the suplex was genuinely endearing to the character. He grew as a character just not in a complete turnaround way, a complex character that learned jealousy and inferiority shouldn't stop you from finding who you are. He embraced who he was.
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Why is it always MY personal favourite suits that get shafted. I loved the form's extra acrobatic fighting style
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>>23486491
That was Nyelv really
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>>23486653
I think Glotta is the only child that didn't directly fuck up the business in some way
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A thing I liked about the finale is that it had a decent reason for the base form landing the kill strike
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>>23486472
He got the President killed. Now young Granutes can order their products from across the glode again
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>Sato Company, who has brought several shows to Latin América in the past, has announced that Zeztz is also getting a simulcast. It'll be available in their Tokusato Youtube channel.

>Another Kamen Rider shows subbed by Sato are Kuuga, Agito, Ryuki, 555, Blade, Hibiki, Kabuto, Den-O, Black, Black RX, Build, Zi-O, and Zero One. Saber and a Build spanish dub are also coming soon
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>>23486652
Idk why they fumbled so hard with Blizzard Sorbet. They did right by having Caking appear so frequently wherein Q1 upgrade is abandoned almost immediately, but Blizzard is just embarassing. The 'timer' thing is interesting but Shouma jobbing a lot in the form hampers it significantly
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>>23486610
>Sachika's Rider form is Over Gavv
This'll shut up SachikaRidertards
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are we worried about the quality of the shout subs?
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>>23486687
they have no one to rip zeztz subs off of, so they will probably use AI
in short, yes
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Ever since the Bitter Gavv shittery, i just knew this series is going all downward. Thanks to that, the finale didn't really disappoint me as hard and instead its just funny. Fuck were they thinking?
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>>23486685
I remember around Drive and Ghost Final Stages having non-transformed characters transform into the main Rider's forms, like Medic became Formula, Kanon became Billy The Kid, etc
Maybe they can do it again in Gavv Final Stage.
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>>23486652
I would have liked it more if its abilities were used more inventively than just making ramps and platforms and the occasional shield.
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>>23486707
more than that can't be made on a weekly schedule cg department, please understand
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>>23486687
They uploaded a sub of the PV trailer and nothing stuck out as bad
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>>23485165
Best Reiwa show by far (gomen Saber), but it’s definitely lacking a lot of substance that should’ve been talked about. These are the things that annoyed me most:
>Jiip disappeared halfway through the show and didn’t come back until the Bocca/Lizelle arc. It should’ve been a recurring plot until he’s introduced back into the ring.
>Suga’s child. We legitimately didn’t know about his motivations until the episode where Hanto defeats him. And even when he was brought back Nyelv was like “I killed him, ooopsie lol”. Suga is just a testament to how dire the missed potential of this show truly is.
>Hanto’s mom kidnapper atoning and continuing to live with that mother and son should’ve remained the way it was. Having Glotta kill him off so unceremoniously and Hanto not even finding out about it is so fucking unnecessary and stupid.
I also would’ve liked more of Sachika’s insecurities being touched upon, but overall they actually did a great job with her character and she’s one of the best heroines we’ve had and the second good one in Reiwa after Mei. It was also refreshing not having a female rider shoehorned into the plot, Zeztz is probably gonna bring that back. Regardless, I give Gavv an 8. Q1 was fantastic and if that quality retained throughout the show I’d definitely rate it alongside shows like Agito, Blade, and Ryuki, but after that the show downgraded to being simply good with a mediocre/okay finish. Better than the usual, but still a bit disappointing.
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>>23486550
>>Takebe: Originally, the idea was to have the Stomach family disappear early in the story, with a mafia-like organization emerging from the Granute world. But after watching the filming, I realized how charming the Stomach siblings were, so I suggested to let them live longer (laughs).
They've fucked up every show for the past 5 years at least pivoting the plot like this mid-production when are they going to figure out it's a bad idea
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>>23485165
It's definitely the most consistent Reiwa show in that it's the most consistently "fine." It never had any particular stand out highs, but it also didn't have a disastrous breakdown like most Reiwa shows have had (e.g. Zero-One's job arc, Dezastar). Yes, the Bitter Gavv arc dragged, but it wasn't such a huge downward slide that the rest of the show wasn't at least watchable. It's a solid 7/10 and one of the better Reiwa shows, but the fact that "fine" is the best we've gotten since Zero-One speaks more to the rest of Reiwa than it does Gavv itself.
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So wait I'm retarded. Will the streaming thing make it easier or harder to get rips of the show?
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>>23486768
the people complaining are the people that don't torrent or use a ddl. they're the ones that stream it when someone else uploads a subbed version. the three times shout are streaming it each week are inconvenient for these people
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What was the reason Hana couldn't become Den-O, again?
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>>23486768
Raws will still exist, but the actual Youtube streams with the simulcast subs aren't being archived anywhere seemingly.
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>>23486775
Women can't be Kamen Rider.
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>>23486774
Reiwanon is still going to put it on the drive each week if anything.
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>>23486779
4chan reiwanon users are less than 1% of the overall fanbase, and most people here don't exclusively use 4chan either.
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>>23486224
Don't care. They like Blazar, and that show is boring as shit.
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>>23486775
There wasn't a reason really other than no imajin. And to be fair, she doesn't like any of them well enough to let it happen.
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>>23486748
Nah it's only takebe production. Noted how irritated urobuchi was when many of his idea rejected by her.
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>>23486765
>no particular stand out
>caking & frappe debut
>vram & master debut
>bocca raid episode
Okay
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>>23486448
Basque burnt cheesecake is easier to do
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>>23486424
It looked more like he hit the humerus to me
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>>23486824
NTA but Vram's debut and the Bocca raid only stand out for their action. And if that was the only thing that mattered then nearly every episode of Gavv, Geats and Zero-One are stand outs.
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>>23486506
I agree with many of their opinions, including the shows they like (they still put shows like Ex-Aid, Kuuga and Agito above Saber). Their evaluations are more sensible and in-depth than the stuff you find at Nip Twitter, 5chan and 2chan.
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>>23486824
NTA but Shouma helping the factory guy and meeting the elderly couple are more memorable and standout than those. My main gripe about Gavv is it should have had more victim of the week and standalone episodes.
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>>23486748
This. Just because the actors are charismatic in their roles doesn't mean the roles have to be overextended past their peak. The viewers feel it, the actors themselves feel it, even the toy sales feel it, yet production just never learns.
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>>23486748
I would have liked Geats infinitely more if they didn't push the dark Keiwa stuff so late into the show.
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>>23485165
Another one bites the dust.
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"I'm gonna get nerfed and die to Red Gavv? From a kick weaker than the one that didn't kill me before?"
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>>23486748
Producers might think that they'll get a result like OOO if they have a mid-series pivot based on what that they feel is working without recognizing that it was done out of necessity and was a miracle it worked out in the end.
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>>23487102
"I have wings and the ability to shut down aka Gavv's strongest form?"
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Ranking this with the rest of the franchise.

Drive > Zero One > Skyrider > Geats > OOO > Black RX > Gotchard > Original > Wizard > Revice > Decade > Zi-O > Stronger > Fourze > Black > Amazon > Kiva > Super-1 > Agito > J > ZO > Ghost > ZX > V3 > Kuuga > 555 > Saber > Hibiki > X > Gaim > Den-O > W > Outsiders > Ex-Aid > Shin > Ryuki > Amazons Season 1 > Blade > G > SD > The First > Black Sun > Kabuto > Gavv > The Next > Amazons Season 2 > Build

>>23486748
All of which are far superior to Kamen Rider Build, the worst tokusatsu ever made.
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shit taste above
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>>23486224
What are the other three?
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>>23487197
Explain how.
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>>23487025
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>>23486187
I like it a lot
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>>23487222
They were really cool.
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>>23487136
Imagine having abs inside your mouth
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>>23485157
Gavv truly is the Boonboomger of Rider.
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>>23487294
Who's Michael Jackson?
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>>23487296
Suga.
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>>23487294
Well Boonboomger's antagonist is based on Pablo Escobar, but I don't think there's a Rider that's equivalent to Boonboomger or a Sentai that's equivalent to Gavv.
I feel like people forcing this comparison are people that haven't watched both Gotchard and Ryusoulger which are equivalent to each other due to being insanely average due to the producer limiting the writers in almost every single aspect to make the safest show as possible.
The only thing I can think in common between Gavv and Boonboomger is that they bother peaked in Q1 and the main villain is mafia.
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>>23485165
7/10 There's a lot it does better than the other Reiwa series, but yet again it falls apart by the end.

The amount of villains was a problem and the fact that the finale feels less urgent than the others, that said I do love the fact that Gavv is basically continues his small life on earth in the end, showing where he's truly happy at.
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>>23486154
Comparing Geats and Gaim, you can tell with how similar story beats that were executed in Geats that were in contrast dropped in Gaim that Takebe was probably pushing the show towards a certain direction that Urobuchi wasn't going for. If anything it seems like she recycled the plot beats that she wanted for Gaim into Geats.
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>>23486474
They are still chinese at their core so they still hate women.
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>>23486474
Blookes have a specific body type for their figures and it for male characters. Nago also doesn't have a figure
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>>23487289
That’s a strong ass tongue.
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>>23487671
I would let him give me a sloppy blowjob in a heart beat.
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>>23485165
The last 8-10 episodes of it felt really rushed, We didnt get to see Shouma talk to his uncle, Lango's final fight went by way to quickly that not much emotion was really allowed to build, Liselle didnt really get to add much to the plot, whatever they were doing with Sachika's character just got dropped, the only character that felt like they got a proper conclusion to their story was Lakia. Out of all the kamen rider shows ive seen so far ive been pretty satisfied with the ending (Build, Geats, Black Sun (maybe not this one), Shin) but this is the first where ive felt alot was left unresolved and production was very rushed. It felt like it need more episodes.

Overall i think its an 8.5/10 because the beginning and middle are amazing and the concept was really well handled.
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I wish the next faiz phone work with the old driver.
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It's ironic that Zeztz's push into the West coincides with the toys being the most inaccesible they've ever been to Burgers (with all the postal halts and tariff nonsense). And those are the actual money makers, not streaming the show
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>>23487774
It's like there's things that were out of their control or what happens when you have retard in control of western economics. It doesn't matter in the end, Bandai gets the most money from the chinks
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>Hanto: look aren't you tired of this cycle of revenge?
>Idiots start shit
>Headbutts them both at the same time then delivers the killing blow
>Walks away and moves on with his live
>Is getting a V cinema with a better version of blizzard sorbet

Hanto fucking WON.
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>>23487786
he hasn't won until he's sticking his tongue in shouma's gavv
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Was Jiip popular in Japan or something? Why did Takebe have the show rewritten to include more of him?
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>>23487802
He was really popular, but Takebe letting him live wasn't a decision based on his popularity but rather just her really liking his actor
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I was a jobber all along?
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>>23487786
Yeah but also the granute organ is now killing him. He wins, but at what cost?
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>>23487814
Welp time to continue the Hanty bloodline with a hapa granute child.
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Gavv and 01 were better shows but Saber had the better ending.

Rest of Reiwa is doggarbage for smooth minds.
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>>23487802
Takebe really liked the actor, the decision of letting he live was done before the show even aired. Which is weird because Komura is the one who's into femboys, Takebe is usually into anemics.
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The last series i enjoyed was Zi-O.

Forever a Heisei boy living in a bitch of a Reiwa world.
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>>23487821
Zero-One isn't a better show than Saber and Geats isn't that bad. Only Gotchard which is extremely average and Revice which turns into irredeemable dogs it after episode 18 are truly not good, even if Geats and Zero-One aren't anything stand out aside from the action and some emotional moments.
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>>23487294
watch more shows
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>>23487548
they made female body for the Naruto line
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>>23487802
I'm more wondering why he just disappear for the most of Bitter Gavv arc and only returned to introduce Lizel.
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>>23487889
He's originally a stage actor by main trade. Maybe schedule conflicts that were already set in stone before Takebe's meddling
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>>23487821
Saber's Q2, Q3, and Q4 mog Zero-One's and Gavv's, so can they really be called better shows overall just for having a better Q1?
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>>23487900
Fuck off China
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>>23487900
Saber is garbage
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>>23486748
I fucking knew it. After Suga's arc the show turns completely 180 and feels like you're watching some weird filler.
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I liked the bitter gavv arc, Suga and the clones made me feel intrigued about what would happen. They mishandled every possibly good story beat with the stomach family, and Jeeb was just never amusing or intriguing.
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>>23487957
I stopped watching after that arc. Show was going in a very interesting direction, going back to the boring villains and two randoms nobody cares about that parachuted into the plot was a mistake.
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>>23487957
>Suga and the clones made me feel intrigued
Suga was interesting originally I agree, but I don't get the clones at all. They're just kind of there.
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>>23487966
I liked their desire for parental approval and the initial batches fucked up fighting styles. That one begging vram to leave the nursery because of how important it was to Suuga was neat. A shame K went nowhere since we needed more of the adventure of BPD and crossdresser.
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>>23487978
It would be nice if we got a TTFC special centered around Suga/Bake for some backstory like we got with Punkjack and Lachesis
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>>23487900
Saber doesn't get "good" until Q3 and I say that as someone who doesn't hate the show. A show not getting good until over halfway in is a pretty big criticism.
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>nemu is 20
>her actress is 16
what did toei mean by this
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>>23487809
>He was really popular,
no he wasn't
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>>23488005
You are over.
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>>23488017
Actors are hired based on talent and who can play the role better also sometimes based on yakuza threats and casting couches. Sumino from Gozyuger is the same situation.

>>23488023
He was right after Q1 finished, for a short period him and Sachika got the most amount of fanart, from Q2 onward people liked his relationship with Liselle early on but by the time he came Bitter Gavv people had stopped caring about him in Japan. Either way it's not like popularity was the driving force for him staying around, it was Takebe's personal opinion that the Stomachs should remain due to her liking the actors.
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>>23488005
>Saber doesn't get "good" until Q3
Yuri gets involved in Q2, Touma going through the wringer, proving the extent of his resolve to the other Riders, and making up with Rintaro all happen in Q2, the Primitive arc happens in Q2, Kento's return as Calibur happens in Q2.
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>>23488005
Yuri's introduction was one of the highlights of the show though.
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>>23488017
Kan was 20 and Ace is hundred years old, so?
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>>23488032
>Sumino from Gozyuger is the same situation.
what
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>>23488057
her actress is 19 but her character is 23
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>>23488005
Nah it was good from Q2, Yuri legitimately saved the show and they were past the excessive Q1 shilling
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>>23488005
>Saber doesn't get "good" until Q3
Wrong.
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>>23488145
Correct, it never gets good. saber stays bad.
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They will start dating in the vcinema
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>>23488162
Don't make me touch you, anon
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>>23486462
kek
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>>23488162
Get new material.
https://desuarchive.org/m/search/text/Saber%20stayed%20bad/
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>>23487814
Just realized that there's no one left that could help him now, not only because the connection between the two worlds has been severed, but also because everyone who knew how to fix him is now dead.
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>>23488260
Shouma's just gonna shit out a new Gochizo to magically fix him.
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>>23488229
Facts don't care about your feelings, saber is still bad.
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>>23488273
Saber's greatness is a fact, as much as it hurts you.
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>>23488270
Shouma chugging half a pharmacy worth of medicine so he can shit out the Tylenol Gochizou...
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>>23486704
They did it first in the Fourze Final Stage. Wizard also had Rinko and Shunpei become the TV Mages.
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>>23488278
Nope, saber is bad.
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Shouma has the drink multiple cups of Coffee a day just so Hanto doesn't get curb-stomped
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>>23488363
He's fine with that
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Winners
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>>23488415
Runnerups
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>>23488410
shitshow shit character
simple as
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>>23488410
Dente alive as a gochizou as he always should've been
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>>23488410
The rider versions were neat. this is kinda creepy
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>Geats is probably the reason why Gotchard and Gavv PDX are taking so long to come out
>re-releasing the entire fucking toyline
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>>23488461
Sorry Geats is more popular then your favorite series, sweetie
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>>23488410
That's really damn creepy. Also why didn't they include Suga and Bocca?

>>23488415
Surprised that Tycoon and Grease Blizzard are above Tajador and Eternal
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>>23488363
>just so Hanto doesn't get curb-stomped right away
Ftfy
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>>23488468
Gavv is more popular than Geats.
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>>23488461
????
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>>23488415
It's always the same 3 shows.
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>>23488472
>Also why didn't they include Suga and Bocca?
I guess 6 slots are the limit.
Bocca's human form isn't really a character.
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>>23488494
fucking wrong, as you can see there are no Den-O and kuuga representative..
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>>23488494
It's like Geats, Build and OOO are popular or something
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>>23488492
What's confusing about my post? do you lack reading comprehension?
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>>23488410
They cute!!
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>>23488410
"Jaap Stomach".
I think someone wrote it wrong...
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>>23488517
I think den-O's popularity is fading now due to the lack of new movies or big appearances in crossover movies/series for a while. Part of what made it so big is that multiple generations of children likely saw Den-O pushed in a bug way.

In the intermediate results, the only thing Den-O related was Zeronos Altair form in -20th- place. Note the only Den-O Gochizo are base and Liner Form. Not even Climax and the other Imagin forms.
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>The reasons the Stomach survived is because Takebe liked their actors
Does that mean she hated Shita's actress?
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>>23488623
retard in this general think that popular things are always gonna sell well despite evidence showing other wise.
Den-O is really popular but Imagin Figuarts always shelf-warm
Zi-O is the best selling rider even though Legend Rider toys always shelf-warm for other riders
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>>23488632
This guy fucks...
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>>23488654
I wish I was Yusuke Hino at that instance
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>>23488410
>still promoting the Stomachs...

could they... NOT? i know that them promoting villain toys and merch is par for the course, and many villains are memorable or likeable enough to deserve having cute merch out of them (Brain, Heart and Medic from Drive are excellent examples), but the Stomachs are the absolute worst of the worst, genocidal monsters who have murdered people for more than 2 decades in universe whose excessive hubris and utter refusal to reconsider their ways led them to their demise.

>Nyelv.
the only reason he wanted to help Shoma was to save his own skin, and even then, if he REALLY wanted to do this he should have recruited Hanto and Lakia too.

they are really great villains, absolute monsters, but it is for that reason trying to make them symphatetic just doesnt work. and they shouldnt be selling merch of them outside action figures so you can pretend your hero figures are beating the shit out of them.
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>>23488572
>>23488582
Fucking disgusting.
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>>23488410
>Gavv if Shouma were a cannibal
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>>23488659
>they are really great villains
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>>23488662
Why? It's just a parfait crab that retools A la Mode, that's a pretty inoffensive design if you ask me
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>>23488674
It's because it's dark skinned, anon is racist.
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>>23488640
No, she just hates women like the good fujo she is.
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>>23488685
fucking newfag.
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>>23488518
Yes anon, I know that, it's just tiring to see these Legend Rider gimmick toy polls end up with the same results again and again.
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Kosuke Asai has been diagnosed with a chronic illness: https://www.toei.co.jp/entertainment/news/detail/1246609_3483.html
>>23488695
>>23488698
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>>23488679
Kosuke Asai to retire from suit acting. His last role was to be Daybreak before joining Gozyuger as a favor
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>>23488685
TVer is Japan's most popular free TV catch-up service. A lot of people use it to watch SHT it seems (but mostly dramas, variety shows and kids anime)

>>23488713
Nope, don't like that. Please get better Asai-san.
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>>23488599
really wished someone had scanlated these regularly.
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>>23488748
It's time for you to learn Japanese so that you don't have to depend on shitty subs, I believe on you anon!
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>>23488751
This is usually why Tamashi Nations doesn't make SHFs of face actors
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>>23488713
Even though he had already announced that GozyuWolf would be his last role a while ago, I'm still gonna miss him, he was one of the best suit actors out there and it's sad that he has to retire earlier than expected. Hope he does well.
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>>23488777
at some point I thought he's gonna be the next Takaiwa for Reiwa Rider but at this point Nawata seems more likely, although Reiwa stopped having same suit actor for the lead back to back like most of Heisei Rider.
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>saboreturd mourning suit actor
>proceeds to shit on other show
lmao what a bunch of hypocrite
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>>23488935
You really are the worst, most despicable poster in this board, a genuinely terrible human being. I will never forget the fact that you insulted Aniki after his death.
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>>23488953
thin-skinned mfker
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>23488960
I'm happy knowing I'll never be pathetic enough to use real life tragedies as an excuse to shitpost.
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>>23488960
>mfker
Thanks for consistently marking your posts with a clear signal you are an ESL subhuman whose babbling should be dismissed.
https://desuarchive.org/m/search/text/%22mfker%22/
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>>23488935
>>23488960
Trying too hard you dumb nigger
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>>23486237
Dude Komura butchering Sentai is why a lot of people are so skeptical of Gavv when she's announced
>>23486154
Huh, feels like he handled the toy aspect well though, which is why I respected him over Minato from King-Ohger who feels like he wants to write shonen manganime than toku
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>>23486261
Yeah it’s even worse because of all those teased plot points that went nowhere and the episode weirdly giving Lakia death flags.
We all shit on Revice but that show left no plot threads hanging by the end
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>>23489010
Komura didn't "butcher" Sentai you fucking drama queen
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>>23489017
>>23489018
Trying too hard you dumb nigger.
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>>23489028
I’m not baiting. Everyone here agrees that Gavv has one of the worst endings in Reiwa Rider
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>>23489018
Her Sentai are mediocre at best
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Who’s writing Zest? I haven’t watched a Rider show in years and I’m really hoping this one’s good enough to get into
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>>23489040
Takahashi by himself, like Ex-Aid.
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>choose the dumbest possible way to air Zeztz outside of Japan
>nobody bothers tuning in because piracy is easier
>"The gaijin does not want Kamen Rider. Please understand."
>we go back to normal
It's for the best.
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>>23489042
I'd expect an anon in here is gonna post the livewatch youtube link for the week's episode, though I'll just watch it via IPTV like I've always done then watch the subs the two hours later.
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>>23489042
Honestly best ending
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>>23489042
Nah.
No more Subgoku wars
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>>23489046
Stop responding to yourself
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>>23489049
retard
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>>23489042
Watch it on TVer, newfren.
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Doesn't shout just steal subs and slightly edit them? How are they going to do this?
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>>23489073
Make mistakes while getting paid to do it
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Guess we know why Takashitter had the free time to write Zetzz now, Ride Kamens is being discontinued.

https://x.com/ride_kamens/status/1962425194951176486
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>>23489087
That game was a bad idea.
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>>23489087
I'm surprised it lasted this long even. Welp, RIP in fujo piss I guess.
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>>23489109
I'll miss you guys <3
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>>23489087
time for Ride Kawomens because of Uma Musume popularity
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>>23489120
It's giving Live Marvelous, hmm.
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>>23489128
Come on now. You can only be so wilfully blind.
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>>23489131
these really are approved suit colors huh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBpS8J574yY
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>>23489042
Gaijins already embraced weebshit, they won't give up.
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>>23489131
It has a cape and the same ice cream colors.
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>>23488895
Yeah, they clearly don't want a next Takaiwa. He was great, but then when he started aging and slowing down action scenes it was extremelyawkward to move him from the role.
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>>23489143
>embraced weebshit
Mostly fakers that are still allergic to actual Japanese things (i.e. dub-turds)
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>>23489166
There might be a chance. Zeztz is like their heckin Marvel, imagine if more people start to cosplay Zeztz in american anime conventions.
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>>23489087
Takahashi had already left Ride Kamens a long time ago, the game was being written by Mouri and Takahashi's apprentice, so this explains why Takahashi's apprentice has enough free time now to do the mini-series about Baku's sister.
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Sachika bubble confirmed forever empty, Kezzahenshin on suicide watch
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>>23489157
Not to mention Kousuke Asai basically retired from suit acting altogether (as he promised to stop either when he finishes Gozyuger to the very end, or if his body gives out, which the latter happened during filming of episode 28). And he only suit acted Saber among main Riders, meaning we will get a completely different suit actor for Saber in future productions (if that ever happens).
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>>23489189
>Sachika bubble confirmed forever empty
I'm so glad. The absolutely schizo copes and theories were something else all year
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Fuuto PI will be going on hiatus until February
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>>23489208
omg invisible-chan hiiiii
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>>23489214
Why are you typing like that?
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>>23489216
felt like it desu :>
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>>23488895
He kind of started off similarly to Takaiwa too where he became the suit actor to the 2nd Primary Rider of the era, in this case Saber to Takaiwa's Agito. But I presume Asai foresaw his ailing health and wanted to do something different and big as a way to end his stunt acting career. And as you mentioned Reiwa doesn't strictly rely on one single suit actor for all Primary Riders.
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>>23488461
What the fuck are you not understanding about GEATS WA NEVER END?
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>>23489042
Perfectly fine with that. Everyone knows from experience that trying to appeal to a Western audience never goes well.
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>>23489073
MTL.
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>>23489284
>Everyone knows from experience that trying to appeal to a Western audience never goes well
I can speak from experience from the absolute state of the damage done to JRPG localisations and a bunch of other JP franchises that hit Western mainstream (i.e. Monster Hunter) that this is not the case. The point of no return is when the gaijin newfaggots start to outnumber the oldies
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>>23489157
Also when every Rider from Drive-Zi-O has a noticeable beer gut that gets more prominent with each subsequent one, it's hard to see them as young hotshot superheroes.
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>>23489282
>Amazing Gummy is born from Shouma's determination to defeat Boca and not as a result of Shouma accepting his Granute heritage, and eating rocks
>he wasn't determined enough to make another Amazing Gummy Gochizo during his fight with Lango
>however, right before the fight he refers to himself as a Granute and once again calls Lango "nii-san"
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>>23489292
I mean all things considered, even in that final fight, Lango can't be anywhere near as much of a threat in Shouma's head compared to Bocca. Shouma wasn't even doing that badly with his form spamming, not to mention he fucking bodied Lango as POPPINGUMMY and handily ripped off one of his wings.
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>>23489282
They don't do as good a job as Gaim, but I think the suits in Gavv did a pretty good job of incorporating the snack theme without looking too ridiculous. I think it helps that he also has a pretty clear "monster" motif as well with the claws and horns.
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>>23488582
>Parfait Mode
Now that Valen got a final form with Mode in the name, my autism is now satisfied
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>>23489188
sybau nephew
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>>23489289
>outnumber oldfag
It already is, you can look how many so called "hot takes" about heisei rider in this general alone
Those newfaggots clearly haven't watch more than 5 shows
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>>23489295
>even in that final fight, Lango can't be anywhere near as much of a threat in Shouma's head compared to Bocca
This interpretation makes the final fight even lamer.
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>>23489325
>you can look how many so called "hot takes" about heisei rider in this general alone
You mean your own bait posts? Get the fuck out of here, loser.
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>>23487731
Reiwa is plagued with the same damn shit over and over again. Q2 drags hard with the new villain mixed in, and then Q4 gets rushed as the cost. No advanced filming can save this savage cycle.
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>>23489282
I'm impressed by how much I turned around Popping Gummy, I remember reay hating it back when it was initially revealed.
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>>23489329
I mean when you go from "the tyrannical dictator president of an entire race of monsters" to "my asshole half brother," the gulf in stakes is pretty wide.
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>>23489329
It really just makes Takebe's decision for this to be the final fight even weirder, since clearly Komura intended Bocca to be the final boss considering how Takebe said that neither Lango nor Jeebh were meant to be live up to the final episode.
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>>23489349
I mean, the stakes remained the same when Lango took over because he literally just stole Bocca's plan wholesale. But then the heroes foiled the whole operation right after that...

But in the actual fight itself Shouma should've theoretically been at a pretty serious disadvantage because he had no support from Rakia and Hanto this time around and Lango somehow managed to shitstomp Over/Master without much issue.
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>>23489368
Lango in this final battle didn't seem to have the super barrier thing from the original over/master one, although this falls down more to the director side, I guess.
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>>23489379
That broke with his original sword didn't it? Not much of a leap to think he decided to reinvest his points into debuffing and flight.
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what happens when Sento gets a worst match
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Why did drive put a love subplot in the last six episodes of the series?
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>>23489412
The V-Cinemas happen
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>>23489427
Because they were meant to be together. If you don't think them getting together is cute as fuck then I dunno what to say.
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>>23489427
>last six episodes of the series?
Did you even watch the show?
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Frankly I'm totally open to Komura getting to do another Reiwa KR season, hopefully with less fucking Takebe interference.
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>>23489471
I'll always be fine with more Komura seasons. There's a feel to them that's overall quite comfortable even if she has some issues with Q2/Q3 sometimes.
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>>23489482
For sure, I was just telling someone that even though I agree with the general sentiment (big slump Q2/3, villains kind of a mess) I had a hard time ever really disliking Gavv just because the core cast was so good.
Plus like I said, it sounds like Takebe really fucked some things up like making Lango and Jeebh live this long.
Did we ever get any confirmation about what the fuck happened with Bakibaki Stick? That fucking suit got revealed, what, like three months before it even debuted? Something HAD to happen there that involved higher-ups fucking with things.
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>>23489489
>Did we ever get any confirmation about what the fuck happened with Bakibaki Stick? That fucking suit got revealed, what, like three months before it even debuted? Something HAD to happen there that involved higher-ups fucking with things.
I mean, we now know the middle of the show was definitely different from what was originally intended. If the Stomach are dying in the 20s we certainly aren't spending tons of episodes there with Clone Gavvs at that point.

But, no, we don't know what was the original plan for Dark Gavv's later forms. They haven't commented on it.
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It's that time of the year again.
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Indeed, it’s Nago-san’s birthday again
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>>23489427
Six? The literally have a future child together.
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