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>incredibly retarded release model outside of Japan >Shout MTL subs Zeztz will fail in the West
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https://twitter.com/KamenRider_EN/status/1961489067394420754"Calling all Kamen Rider fans!Which era Rider did you start with?Showa (1971–1994) Heisei Ph. 1 (2000–2009)Heisei Ph. 2 (2009–2018)Reiwa (2019–present)"
>>23489673My first Rider was Hibiki
>>23489668>implying this is a bad thing
>>23489673Showa, because I'm a Masked Rider chad.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UapMPX5iYc
>>23489681Masked Rider isn't Showa-era Rider, it's Clinton-era Rider.
>>23489673Kabuto was my first and I watched it as it aired.
>>23489672>Hapipare crew.cute.>The Stomachs + LizelleFuck NO!, they are downright monsters who have done every single conceivable horrible thing ever with absolutely no remorse, they shouldnt be getting cute merch... or ANY merch besides their evil toys or evil action figures, because they are EVIL.
New bike chart
>>23489673i'm brazilian, you know which gateway series for us
>>23489672What will these even say?
>>23489672Shoma...how could you...
Parfait Mode just looks unneccesarily bulky by adding too many capes
>>23489726how did he eat himself?
How are they going to do a Kabuto v-cinema without Tendo
>>23489785Ouroboros
>>23489800>without TendoAnon...Chinese leakers also leaked the Kabuto CSM 2.0 which means tv ripped voice lines or Bandai dragged Hiro into the recording studio for toy recording as well while he recorded his ADR for Kabuto 20th.
https://twitter.com/ride_kamens/status/1962425194951176486What are your farewell words to Ride Kamens?
>>23489843Should have had full helmets that didn't cover their faces instead.
>>23489843Isn't there another upcoming mobileslop Rider game too?
>>23489690Wasn't an option.
>>23489673Fourze, while Drive was airing I was in 14 then now I’m 25
Are the Discotek releases good? Was considering grabbing a few titles as I make my way through the Showa era if they are
>>23489706Make a rider kick chart. We all know why bikes are rarely used now
>>23489706>We barely had any bike scenes even in Phase 1 The bikes are probably the most expensive thing of a rider show. They can’t just ignore them like the suits, they’re actual modified motorcycles so they did constant maintenance.
>Zeztz is next
>>23489706>Geats still that highReminder that most of that is the CGI fox. Gavv had more bike scenes.
ok so i used to be big into power rangers when i was a kid and recently came across all these japanese super sentai, kamen rider clips. And that rabbit hole just fascinates me.So I wanted to ask you guys. What would be a great starting point to get into this shit?Also what is the difference between super sentai and kamen rider?
>>23489956>What would be a great starting point to get into this shit?Pick a suit that looks cool, get the name of it, find the show it's from. If you don't know where to find a suit, this section of the wiki does list them all:https://kamenrider.fandom.com/wiki/Kamen_Rider_SeriesOnce you find one you want, you can either search nyaa.si for torrents or use the viewer links in the OP to actually get episodes. Some have official streaming releases in the United States if you're a burger, I'd google it real quick if you're lazy enough to not mind mediocre translation and video quality but ease of access.I recommend not listening to specific show picks because it might set you up with false expectations.>what is the difference between super sentai and kamen rider?Super Sentai are an explicit team of at least 3 transforming heroes with a shared aesthetic and motif, more commonly 5 on average and distinctly color-coded. Their fights and narratives are built around working together as a group, typically punctuated with a giant robot battle of some kind. It's typically a little bit more juvenile but it doesn't really condescend or worsen itself over that, just means the stakes don't ever get any darker than "Oh wow."Kamen Rider is just "one" guy, though more typically show up throughout the show for escalation's sakes but they typically aren't a cohesive color-coded unit like Super Sentai. The big gimmick is they all share powers, motifs, and themes with the monsters they fight - maybe they use the same specific items or they're the same species of monster or they went through the same body modification process. Kamen Rider is SLIGHTLY less juvenile than Super Sentai, particularly in earlier seasons where people will outright be killed on screen in shocking fashion but nothing more brutal than blood makeup on someone's face, and covering some slightly more abstract themes (if in heavy-handed fashion due to still being for kids).
>>23489956whichever one you think looks cool is usually a good starting point. I started with Zyuranger back in like 2011 or 2012 for example because of Power Rangers nostalgia, loved it, and most people say if you can stomach Zyuranger you can watch basically anything. Super Sentai is geared towards a slightly younger audience than Kamen Rider, but it doesn't really make a huge difference if the cool factor pulls you in.I won't give any recs since I know my tastes are usually different from most people, but that's my general advice.
>>23489956>Also what is the difference between super sentai and kamen rider?At this point? It just takes longer to complete a team.https://youtu.be/bPc3BrNH79c?si=jacM9Mc-OK8jD64E
>>23489956>What would be a great starting point to get into this shit?Gateway show are KR W/Gaim/Build.If you like those, you can branch out from there with other shows.
>>23489857Yeah and people have already lost their interest in it despite the game not having come out yet because every Kamen Rider gacha has closed down incentivizing people to not spend money on it plus the marketing was done really poorly. I can only imagine that even less people will be interested on it now that Ride Kamens closed down.
>>23489956>what is the difference between super sentai and kamen rider?Super Sentai is just 3-5 guys in different colored outfits with a shared motif. It's a lot more kiddy compared to Rider. Kamen Rider is usually one guy fighting an evil force with the same power as them. Some series' are more kiddy than others but overall it's darker than sentai.Overall quality wise. Sentai is more consistent because it rarely tries anything new while Rider is always experimenting even when it fails.>What would be a great starting point to get into this shit?The ones on streaming sites like Kuuga, Zero-One and Ryuki are good starting points. There's also Fuuto PI which is a sequel to W but explains itself to new viewers.not on streaming sites are W, OOO, Build, Gaim (written by Urobutchi), Ex-Aid (Video game themed) and Build.
>>23489956Every Kamen Rider season and Super Sentai season are mostly standalone. Only ones that kind of require having seen prior seasons are Skyrider and Zi-O, in Super Sentai's case Gokaiger, but even then their story is standalone enough that you can understand the shows without any prior knowledge. So since most seasons aren't connected in any substantial way it's recommended to just pick whatever show catches your eye.If that still seems intimidating to you then I recommend either watching ZO which is a standalone movie rather than a 40+ episode series, W because it's a good season to ease you into the usual tropes found in Kamen Rider plus it has a sequel Anime series which might be a more familiar medium to you or Kiramager which just like W is good to get used to Sentai's tropes. There's also a new Kamen Rider season called Zeztz that's starting this weekend which will be the first season to get a worldwide simulcast, according to the staff the show is being made as an entry point to bring in new viewers so you might want to keep an eye on that. Kamen Rider and Super Sentai are made by the same Studio and sometimes the same staffers, the key difference is that Super Sentai's focus is a bunch of people coming together to defeat some villains while learning how to work as a team while Rider focuses on a single protagonist whose powers originate from an evil source. Otherwise it's whatever the staff wants.
>>23489956A starting point really depends on what you want in a series. My personal recommendations:Build, Gaim, Zero-One and Geats all seem to be fairly common starter series for people since they're all-around solid and they have more serialized plot structure.Kuuga, Ryuki, and Drive are series that are looked on favorably. Kuuga and Ryuki are way different so they don't set expectations but they are really good, Drive tends to get neglected because while it's a good show I think it's very safe and doesn't really have any major flaws but at the same time doesn't feel as ambitious.Ex-Aid is quite good if you can get past the strange suit design. With the suits in mind being kind of off-putting I find it hard to recommend as an entry point, though.The W-OOO-Fourze trio are still extremely strong series that showcase form changes really well and have a good balance of more serious and lighthearted elements. For most people the trio are really easy choices for starter shows.Kamen Rider has a slightly older target demographic, although both are still shooting for elementary-aged boys.Kamen Rider focuses more on a range of power sets and the form change gimmick. Suits tend to be bulkier and more complicated than Sentai suits. Kamen Rider typically has more serialized elements while Sentai is more Monster of the Week, though most Riders do still have a monster of the week format at least in the first quarter or up to the last ten or so episodes.Gavv just ended and is a generally good season, and the upcoming Zeztz we don't know but it's likely that Toei will be very cautious with it since they want it to succeed to hopefully get Rider to gain international steam.
>>23489956The ones that I usually see people starting with are the first season, Black, ZO, Kuuga, W, Gaim, Build, Shin (Anno) and Geats but really just start with whatever you think looks cool, personally I started with OOO and had a great time.
>>23489956>What would be a great starting point to get into this shit?Hibiki, Wizard, Ghost, Revice or Gotchard are great picks.
>>23490160Not really, Ghost and Gotchard require to watch a lot of side content material to get the full picture of the story, just like Ryuki, Decade, Ex-Aid, Build, Zero-One and Saber, meaning that you'll need a viewers guide to watch them. Although in the case of Ex-Aid and Build it's mostly the backstory of some Riders that's inferred slightly in the main show, without having any impact to the plot, so maybe the side content isn't as necessary even if it's still recommended for a better viewing experience.
Officially 16
>>23490171Same vibes
>>23490169>Gotchard require to watch a lot of side content material to get the full picture of the storyGotchard only requires the 2 short Legend specials for his arc, which is way less than the other shows you've mentioned. Even the Daybreak movie is more of a side adventure, with the events not really affecting the show.
Just finished the Amazon 2 parter from Decade. This suit goes hard as shit.
>>23489706Fucked up that Ex-aid made it's bike A GUY and even then it didn't make it into the top 15
>>23490186The Daybreak movie gives some context as to what The 3 Dark Kings are (although the full explanation for them and Geryon is in the production blog) and gives closure to Gotchard Daybreak who's the the protagonist's mentor I during the second quarter, I'd say that's pretty substantial. Also Rinne becoming a Rider in the Geats crossover movie which isn't explained well in the show itself.
>>23489730The larger shoulder pads add bulk and are overly floppy as well.
>>23490222>The Daybreak movie gives some context as to what The 3 Dark Kings areDid you watch the movie? It really doesn't.>gives closure to Gotchard Daybreak who's the the protagonist's mentor I during the second quarter, I'd say that's pretty substantialDaybreak is only there for 3 episodes, by the end of it he considers his mission done and the heroes have no interest in helping him out (because they're not even aware of what his deal is) until the events of the movie.>Also Rinne becoming a Rider in the Geats crossover movie which isn't explained well in the show itselfFair, I completely forgot about that.
>>23490211Making it into a guy was their way of avoiding it. If the bike was another rider then they could use the excuse that he’s off doing something else. But they killed Kiriya, and showed that Emu could summon the bike whenever anyway.
After the shitshow of OOO 10 years later and Reiwa, can we admit that Takebe has to go?
>>23490394I don't think she has done a very good job producing Toku after Gaim, and even then, I think OOO and Gaim only turned out as well as they did because their writers are just really, really good.
>>23489923Better than Shout
With Izu and Geo not doing Zeztz due to Shout getting the rights and Shout has a retarded non-archived release schedule and AI subs, is there any hope for any good releases? Any other sub groups that will pick it up?
The way Jiph and Lizel were treated is what really cemented Gaav as a superior series to Gotchard for me, besides Shouma's and allies being the obviously better MC group. Unlike the 3 dark sisters, at least Jiph and Lizel's screentime and journey didn't feel like a waste of time because their conclusion in their series, despite being rushed, was kinda satisfying. They are good foils to Hanto, and killing them off would have been a dick move. The 3 dark sisters were foils to Rinne and Spanner, and arguably had more screentime dedicated to them than Lizel and Jiph, but the writers failed to stick the landing by anticlimatically killing them off and never doing something more with them. So their journey felt like a pointless waste of time.>>23489704You are likely old enough to know that in Japan and the USA, it's not rare to sell kid toys based on dictators and genociders, such as Char Aznable, Frieza, Darth Vader, Batman's Joker, and Harley Quinn.
>>23490533People will find a way to archive it on nyaa, also that's not the reason Izu and Geo aren't doing it, Izu was already planning to take a break before Zeztz started and that doesn't necessarily mean he won't do it because he did Geats in spite of it being a "break year" for him. Ei and Geo are planning to work together on Zeztz but they were really vague about it so I'm not sure if they will actually do it or not.
>>23490533Someone will probably rip it from the youtube channel, subs and all, and then we'll see how bad they are. There's a non-zero chance they aren't MTLing it and actually got one of the subbers we got on the team for this release. I feel like it would be stupid to botch the first try, but they already started off badly due to archiving rights and all that shit.
>>23490546Poor Ei, always getting saddled with the worse business partners
>>23490533MTL/AI subs aren't confirmed and we won't know until release, but that doesn't mean it's not a real concern, especially given this is Shout we're talking about and they won't have anyone else's subs to steal this time.
>Geo and EiSo it'll be utterly incomprehensible because of all the zoomerspeak and completely made up shit.
>>23490573Ei is a good subber, but considering he couldn't stop Flame from adding dumb shit I have to assume he won't be able to do the same for Geo, so yeah it's the Mieruko fantranslations deal all over again. I honestly expect the official subs to be better if they're actually like the ones from the trailer.
>>23490584>but considering he couldn't stop Flame from adding dumb shitDid you fall for Flame's joke sub edits on Twitter too?
>>23490620I've watched Gotchard's subs and it did have zoomerlingo from the time, but it was still comprehensive enough, basically they're equivalent to Crunchyroll subs.Geo is straight up irredeemable, and I'm not sure why people hire him in the first place since from my understanding it's literally the exact same situation as Mieruko and Genm Corp, essentially the subbers from Genm Corp except from Genm Corp himself do all the actual work while Geo just shits over the subs making the episodes unwatchable. I don't get why the grunts can't simply work for Ei rather than Ei having to work with either Flame or Geo.
>>23490542Jiip and Lizel were terrible, they kept going in circles with nothing to do until the last few episodes when they received some rushed ass development that fell completely flat. They would've been competent foils to Hanto if they hadn't decided to pushed this angle between them only at the very last episode. Lizel's end feels more like a lazy excuse to have a V-Cinema plot rather than what her whole run in the show was leading up to.>and killing them off would have been a dick move."Them"? Jiip WAS killed off, anon.
>>23490542>The way Jiph and Lizel were treated is what really cemented Gaav as a superior seriesstopped reading right there. I hope nobody falls for this
It has been 8 years.It's time for /krg/ to admit that Kamen Rider peaked with Build.
>>23490658You weren't even alive when Build aired.
>>23490658>t. someone who started with Build
>>23490542Atropos got a good character arc, Lachesis a decent one and Clotho was sorta pushed aside at the point where she would have gotten her own closure but still. Jeebh just kept whining like a little bitch until abruptly deciding to actually love Lizel even though she'd been nothing but abusive towards him at that point.
>>23490658Rider peaked with Kuuga.
>>23490542Those characters are iconic; the stomachs are not.
>>23490718Even Revice's ending was better than gavv.
Glotta somehow got popular enough to make it to Girls Remix
>>23490546>>23490557>>23490573>>23490584>>23490620>>23490649It's not Geo Ei is supposedly working with, but the translator Geo found. You can already see how well they mesh together since they subbed the Zeztz trailer that was posted a few weeks ago
>>23490731>somehowShe's hot, anon. You can just say that. Even kids were falling in love with her.
>>23490658>Kamen Rider peaked with DriveFixed that for you.
https://x.com/CallMeKalimari/status/1962544112319476113?t=BmmDJfl2R_mkFGkZTKQmxg&s=19There. That right there is an idiot who believes Komura writing is good. NOTHING CAN SAVE THE REIWA FORMULA FROM THE INEVITABLE CANCELLATION!
>>23490718At least Gavv didn't do the final episode form that's just a powered up base form thing again. That got old really fast.
>>23490725Honestly, yeah. I don't consider Revice to be a good show and most of its endgame was terrible, but I think the final episode itself was nice, it manages to make the emotional beats of Vice's sacrifice hit. The tone of the whole fight and seeing Ikki get all teary-eyed did stir my heart a bit, it's a low-key finale that was executed pretty decently.
>>23490805
>>23490814It's astonishing how the only real family moments in that show were between Ikki and Vice being brothers.
>>23490825Don't even try to move the goalpost, Gavvfag.
>>23490798No one is clicking that.Post a screenshot instead, that's how you make ragebait.
>>23490835I'm the one who initially said it was a better ending.
>>23490814The only good thing about the show is Vice, and that's a pretty low bar to set among everything else in Reiwa altogether.
>>23489673I first got exposed to KR by Ryuki (and Masked Rider, I remember seeing a cheap trading card of SD Showa Riders and they look cool with all of them being bugmen) because kids are crazy with the cards, but never really getting to them until Decade (tried beforehand with Kiva). Was 14 back then, 30 now.
>>23489706Damn Revice might have more usage but because it's 99% CGI it's less than Zero-One's. And Zero-One is only long because they dedicated an entire action sequence for it and that's pretty much about it. Ultra disappointing how considering that he's a first Rider in a new era.All this makes me wonder how did they get away with Build using his bike for quite a while. Sure the screentime is short, but early Build had Sento pretty much associated with the bike.
>>23490735That's actually really good then, I always felt bad for the translators since I always felt that Genm Corp and Geo were scamming them, so this is actually best case scenario then even if Izu is quicker.
>>23490805I kinda appreciate how the finale is just some comfy low stakes, even by then they had burned all the goodwill from it. Hell I remember the moment where Ikki and Vice lives alone should feel like an entire arc of its own.
