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-=READ THE GUIDES=-

Welcome to the Gunpla/Plamo General!

For those new, please read our guides. We have many resources available to help you in many different aspects of the hobby. They're here for you!

For the unclear, "plamo" is short for "plastic model". "Gunpla" is thus short for "Gundam plastic model". Many different kinds of models are built here, ranging from mecha to planes, cars, musume, you name it! If you're new, you're gonna screw up. Don't worry! If you're seasoned, don't make the newbies worry!

And don't forget to report shitposting and spam. The mods don't browse /m/ too often, so it's up to YOU to help keep our general clean and civil!

>Why won't anyone answer my question?
Be more specific, and try to provide clear images if you can.

>Why are my pictures sideways?
4chan strips EXIF data when images are uploaded, including the orientation tag if it's from your phone. To fix it save out your images separately, or use an app that will rotate and save the images for you.
One easy to use app that works well on Android:
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobilephotoresizer

-=THE GUIDES=-
>Gelgoog Guy's gunpla guide:
gunpla.buyfags.moe
>Funaka's gunpla guides:
Building Gunpla: files.catbox.moe/fj5azc.pdf
Scratchbuilding: files.catbox.moe/2d9ppa.pdf
>Falldog's gunpla guide:
otakurevolution.com/content/laymans-gunpla-guide
>A guide to other types of plamo:
mediafire.com/file/1vf1aw7v91pz5pa
>Saintism's gunpla photography guide:
saint-ism.com/category/gunpla/photography

-=OTHER RESOURCES=-
>Gundam lineart (There's a lot!):
pastebin.com/22jyPB6q (embed)
>Dalong's gunpla reviews and documentation:
dalong.net
>Schizophonic's gunpla/plamo reviews:
schizophonic9-2.com
>KenBill Blog's gunpla/plamo reviews:
blog.kenbill.com
>Past Groupbuilds:
flickr.com/photos/197891373@N06
>Monthly Restock List:
old.reddit.com/r/gunpla/1n0pstz

Prior thread: >>23495890
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>>23498917
-= BIOMECHA GROUPBUILD =-

Build a mecha/cyborg with a visibly biological component integrated into the machine. This can include:
>Mecha that naturally have some sort of organic component to them (Evangelions, Aura Battlers, etc)
>Mecha that have organic elements attached/fused to them, willingly or otherwise
>Cyborgs, androids, and human with mechanical attachments/enhancements (Robocop, Kamen Rider, mecha musume, etc)

Send your entries to gunplaplamo@gmail.com with at least 5 photos of your finished build along with any WIP photos and a description of your entry.
START - 8/12/25
END - 11/30/25
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got a kit from Cheng, 3 days ago. i have been building it for some time and i think i am...
not regretful of it. somehow.

i saw this 00 shia quant in edgelord colors, it was paired with a boy and a neat looking transgender recolor. it was cheap, even with tax and shipping, like less that 18 usd, so i got it.
surprisingly the box art was a thirst trap.

the manual was a copy that was marvelously well done and professionally forged very skillfully and noticeably at 50% zoom. still serviceable.
the center transparent piece for the chest cracked when placed but surprisingly didnt fell apart when removed, i still used plastic cement to attempt to fill in the cracks but to no avail.
there are 3 shades of red, one of them is noticeably purpler that the other, potentially thanks to the purple detail runners the kit has, asides one of the reds being made of a plastic that simply shrunk far more that it should, the sword had one of the guard parts glued together.
the binder thruster link is incredibly tight, while having gaps somehow. the gaps were filled with plastic cement and carefully cut pla pieces to link them.
a policap broke in a surprising way, most specially because it was of the correct type of plastic. the cap was not fixed thanks to how the binder squeezes it together.
2 of the GN binder would not sit in the GN shield. upon closer inspection i noticed the peg on the shield was deformed. after shaving+cut it in shape, they now snap together rather nicely.
the hips are terrible. the side skirts pop off easily. i shaved off the pegs until they fit neatly on the hip housing. the rear skirt was such a tight fit (thanks to the wrong shade of red) it now has stretch marks, although i could do nothing about that.
the head piece has 2 red parts that are in such tension im sure they will snap with time. the rear GN drive lacks the correct colored sticker but i dont blame Cheng for this one.

very tight shit bootleg, had fun making it, 3/10 would buy again
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is there a kit or decal set for this zaku? i really like the gold on it but im not sure the series or the name of the suit. i'm okay with chink/off market as well if so >>23470527
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>>23498938
dude, just buy Star Destroyer Dark Matter instead if you want a chinese Exia
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Is painting the Hizack in Mars Zeon colors lore accurate?
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>>23498813
>The actual STG44 doesn't have a grenade launcher addon and optional scope like this
you sure about that?
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>>23498942
that cost me a kidney, this barely costed me a cheap dinner at a restaurant
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>>23498939
Dozle Zabi zaku there is a mg but I have no idea if there is a poverty sized one.
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I'm asking again, one time someone posted a Chinese OC kit, it had a red and white color scheme and all I really remember was it had some hip mounted VSBR type weapons, it looked cool and I want to grab one for myself but this is all I can remember. Does it ring any bells?
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>>23498945
no relation sir
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>>23498968
Does the Dozel Zabi Zaku II have an enlarged cockpit like was mentioned in its MSV description?
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>>23498981
dalong.com
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>>23498982
.net
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>>23498968
thanks anon chink bandai still has it for sale so i think this will be my first gunpla.
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Is the RG Crossbone X-2 from P-Bandai worth getting?
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>>23499055
RG crossbone is good. It's a bit pricey but if you like the X2 it's worth it.
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>>23499055
get the MG one if you can.
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>>23499055
it's my favorite RG (x1 and x2)
has the engineering of a late 2000s seed MG in 1/144 scale and a crazy amount of accessories.
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>>23499055
The RG's great and superior to the MG.
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>>23499120
Aren't they ultra mega tiny
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Everyone time I'm motivated, something happens in my love life that makes me depressed as fuck and I lose all motivation to even snapshit my backlog
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Types of Gunplatubers:
>Japan: high-level painting and customizing
>SEA: ASMR speed build, stop motion and bootleg reviews
>White: basic ass snap fit review while being homosexual and/or transgender
Why's that?
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>>23499129
I'm SEA and I refuse to speed build and review bootlegs, I also paint
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>>23499132
reading comprehension
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>>23499123
They're small but they still have more part separation than the MGs and their cloak is the best rendition in model form so far
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>>23499129
>Japan
lots more gunpla accounts so they can afford to take more time on their kits and videos
>SEA
they're all poor and retarded so they have to hop trends for views
>White
very few english review accounts so it's partially a game of racing to get it shipped and shit out the review to get the bulk of the views. usually gay or fags because those types love getting into tabletop/modeling stuff so that they can make it their sole personality trait. not too far of course, because almost none of them paint
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>>23499129
Being a transgender furry snapshitter who doesnt paint their models means you're clearly a member of the master race
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>>23499129
because the current lot of Gundam fans in the West only like it because of the WfM lesbian relationship and the gunpla is just tacked on consooming and attempts to get social media clicks, updoots, and attention. There are very few serious model builders in the West outside of aging Gen X and dying Boomers
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>>23499148
Almost every diehard gunpla enjoyer I know is a young millennial.
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>>23499155
this
t. 29 yo borderline milenial
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>>23499148
>>23499155
I'm 24 but I was definitely the youngest at the model contest I entered last month. Some of the guys I added on social media after that post about their wives and make gay wifeguy jokes about hiding new kits from them
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>MG base price is now 7200 yen (before infinity tax and scalper markup)
it's over... this hobby is getting more and more unaffordable.
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>>23499177
That's because that's where the boomers congregate. Younger people just sort of do stuff in their own circles to avoid the boomers.
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For totally unrelated reasons. Are the gunpla bugs fun to build/play?
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>>23499142
Z*k**r*l**s does paint gunpla, but it's not his main content.
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Who got the MG Dearka's Blaze ZAKU Phantom? You can convert that kit back into the Warrior parts because I'm pretty sure it reuses the parts from the standard green version (which the Yzak and Rey version plates cut the Warrior parts off, though it relies on color-correcting duplicate plates like with Rey's version).
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>>23499209
Say his name
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>>23499215
sorry anon i can't...
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ZakuAurelius
ZakuAurelius
ZakuAureliu-
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>>23499301
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your package from USAGS, good sir
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opinion?
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>>23499316
the only reason why i'm going to suggest against this kit is because stripping chrome is a chore. just buy a regular God Gundam, clean every part of nub marks/seamlines and go to an electroplating shop to get it chromed back.
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It's so cool.
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>>23499344
I'm gonna wait for Bandai's official kit
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>>23499340
>electroplating shop
I wonder how I could get a job at a place like that.
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>>23499316
>unpainted kit
Opinion discarded
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I got a reply back from the gunpla museum if anyone is curious the response
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How are the jumpwind metal paints for Candy painting?
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>>23499344
Should I buy this or the MG2.0 Hyaku Shiki assuming they're the same price (I can only buy from chinks and they overprice the fuck out of HS because it's GOLD)? I have a personal attachment to FAHSK due to it being my favourite GBO2 support, but I dunno about QC issues and stuff
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>>23499384
buy Daban MG 2.0 Hyaku Shiki instead. it's just as good as Bandai's for half the price. no cap.
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>>23499373
Well yeah what did you think? It's not a random bar in Nagoya, they can't just hang a NO WHITES ALLOWED sign in the front
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>>23499316
skill issue. There's literally a cheap marker that prevents this
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>>23499373
to ba fair, they're doing this because of the chinks who only wants to get in to steal their technology. they're asking you to register with a japanese representative so they can easily pin it on the resident if ever the foreigner does something funny in the facility. (also good luck getting them to cooperate as a chink)
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I don't get the appeal of Mk.II
basic ass looking "gundam"
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>>23499390
>Daban MG 2.0 Hyaku Shiki
Which number is that
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>>23499406
6651
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>>23499408
It's got the mega launcher + Kai parts right? Is there one without those, cause I really don't care for them
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>>23499414
>mega launcher
you need to buy that extra separately.

>Kai
I don't know what that is. it's just a normal hyaku shiki.
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>>23499419
>you need to buy that extra separately
All the previews I see show it with the launcher and show the mega launcher parts in the box
>I don't know what that is
Hyaku Shiki Kai. The one with the minigun on the shoulder and the Alien head
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>>23499384
You should double check but I think FAHSK has everything to revert ot regular HS.
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>>23499414
its the 6651S, it got the mega launcher, and the Kai Mass produced parts, not the Kai parts and the ballute parts

the normal 6651 is just the Hyaku Shiki but it hasnt been produced for a long time
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>>23499402
It's to make the Zeta even more badass by comparison.
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>>23499423
whoops, sorry. the one I have is Daban 6648 without the additional stuff
6651 is Kai + Mega Launcher
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>>23499345
It should come out around the same time as the RG Bawoo
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>>23498917
What's that silvery metallic paint?
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>>23499398
oh i don't doubt that. I just thought it might be useful if anyone else wants to visit. I'm going to follow up with a few more questions that i have about what they mean as representative because the way they are talking about means i would need to buy two tickets if i read it right. The main purchaser (rep) and the add on (me)
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>>23499129
Ever since you people mention this, I can's stop noticing that some how the guy gunpla builders just got to paint their nails.
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>>23499457
genuinely disgusting. it actually gives me the 'ick. the sense of repulsion.
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>>23499129
>Gives Region for first 2 examples.
>Gives Race for the 3rd.
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>>23499457
quagmire sounding motherfucker
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>>23499457
Damn, not this guy too. I actually njoyed some of his painting gunpla like minis videos.
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>>23499462
The plavskly molecules infects everyone eventually.
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What's the best guide for someone who wants to get into scribing? I'm not even sure what the differences between the different scribers are and what tools do you need.
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How well do clear paints mix?
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Improved innerframe for RG Sinanju
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>>23499206
>Fun

No

The material for this one is a bit strange
Especially for the backpack
I tried to spray paint the black lines. The arms and the legs are fine but the material and matted surface for the backpack prevented me to really clean up any extra paint that went over the line.
The black paint ended up smeared into the plastic with the thinner and paint remover.

Also due to the design the backpack is heavy but the rest of the body is really light.

I got a better time playing the old MSIA dunbine toy than handling this. And that thing is like almost 20 years old

I would say go with the stickers but looking at some of the Japanese review pictures you can clearly see the stickers are peeling.

So hand brush the thing?
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>>23499569
>I tried to spray paint the black lines. The arms and the legs are fine but the material and matted surface for the backpack prevented me to really clean up any extra paint that went over the line.
>The black paint ended up smeared into the plastic with the thinner and paint remover.
Did you really try to clean up paint from a part with lacquer thinner/paint stripper lmao
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>>23499129
The sheer number of no-fun-allowed trannies on twitter and youtube is insane.I don't even mind a lot of them, but the number that take their own troon headcanons as gospel are insufferable.
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>>23499129
Westies are just snorting the plastic dust to speed up their trooning transformation. You know its true.
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>>23499181
I don't mind talking to boomers and I think it's at least preferable to weird snapshitter trannies and people who can only communicate through news articles on d*n*ld tr*mp or internet memes CAPTCHA: TDS48
>>23499209
he's one of the few exceptions. the only other painter that comes to mind is itsagunpla but i find his voice very grating
>>23499437
I got the HG launcher but it hides most of the hyaku shiki so I also bought the MG hyaku shiki
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>>23499584
>>23499593
blame WfM
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>>23499206
every kit is fun to build, even when it's not
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>>23499606
I blame Turn A.
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>>23499553
>Zhang fixing Bandai slop kits again
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>>23499606
>>23499617
I think a lot of this stuff is just more accessible than it used to be, and that's opened the floodgates for normies. It takes all kinds and all that shit. But they could stand to chill out a little. It's bad when I think someone with nazi imagery in their profile pic is gonna be easier to talk to than someone with any flavor of pride colors in theirs
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>>23499553
Finally, time to finally get the RG Sinanju.
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HG Sazabi/Sinanju > RG
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>>23499655
If Bandai for some reason, release the revive hg with fully plastic joint instead of polycaps, it would be the definite Sinanju kit.
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This is straight up trolling
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Don't care.
I will NEVER buy a gbitch kit.
I will NEVER buy a gcucks kit.
I WILL buy more Wing kits.
I WILL buy more Seed kits.
I WILL buy more IBO kits.
I WILL buy X kits (when I'm in the mood for it).
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>>23499676
Nobody gives a fuck
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>>23499670
This thing is based. All Mobile Fighters are based.
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>>23499676
kek, based
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Im in the process of painting this guy, I got holographic decals from delpi and im torn, I love my gunpla with mat finish but flat will kill any holographic reflections from decals, what do i do?
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I've seen some people here swear by premixing paint in bottles and I have a few questions for you guys
Is there any particular type of dropper/bottle cap that works best or are any of them fine?
Won't lacquer paint melt the plastic bottle?
Does the paint separate or dry out over time?
What size steel balls do you put in the bottles?
I mostly want to do this to save time when priming or top coating since I won't be mixing colors with those anyway
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>>23499714
>Is there any particular type of dropper/bottle cap that works best or are any of them fine?
assuming lacquers you want pe (polyethylene) bottles. those are definitely lacquer resistant, that's what my lacquer thinners and 99.9% mek came in
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>>23499670
I saw one animator on twitter (who is very new to Gundam) say something like

>This might be a controversial opinion, but isn't this a bad design?
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>>23499724
Sounds like a tourist.
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Hey guys I've never built a model before but I heard gunpla is a good investment. Which ones should I be buying to resell later?
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>>23499711
You can't have both, mate
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>>23499734
High Grade Titan color MKII Gundams are no longer being printed
try to find as many as you can
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>>23499734
Wait until the next big MG reprint. Stock MG Turn X, Deep Striker, The O and FAZZ. Wait until the rest of the print on the market sold runs out, when people are desperate again, you resell.
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>>23499478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns4-aLhaJ_g
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>>23499734
HGBD GM Beam Master
Figure-Rise Shion
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>>23499734
Gundam MKV, EX S and her variants, MG The O, any of those old RE100.
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>>23499734
HG Tickbalang
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>>23499734
Kyokai Senki kits, they will definitely skyrocket in popularity once people realise it's a hidden gem just like what happened to Gundam itself
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>>23499750
>hidden gem
More like buried turd
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>>23499734
Buy everything from P-Bandai
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>>23499553
>>23499629
I have an un-opened RG sinanju from 2018 you can buy ;)
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>>23499553
Chinks do what Bandont
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Hmm?
Hmmmmmm
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>>23499797
Been like that for a long time. Why is chang able to to do shit like take a modified Geara Doga inner frame and put it into the Jagd Doga?
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>>23499750
Unless you want to deal with spaghetti hinge joints for the arms and almost every articulated section of the kit fall apart, then sure, hidden gem it is.
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>>23499799
OOOOOO SORAAA YOOOOO~
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should i go get another kit for free from amazon
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I want to build 1 gunpla / week but I don't have the money
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>>23499820
Sell me some feet pics, I'll pay you enough for an average HG per week
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>>23499831
HG are almost as expensive as MG before covid nowadays. like, over 100% inflation.
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>>23499750
The kits, yes. The show? Not so much. The kits are very well-engineered. Good scale too, since they actually scale well with a lot of model planes.
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SnapGOD kino alert
bandai could NEVER
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>>23499854
https://www.kotobukiya.co.jp/blog1/labo/article/detail/516/
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Built the Red Gundam last night, it's weird how much less stable this is than the GQux, even before mounting the bits. The kit was much less sticker intense than the GQux, but they want you to put a Zeon sticker on top of the 3D cross on the shield and it looks bad even if you attach it there first so you can fit it tight.
It also should have come with arms for the bits. No idea why it expects you to buy 3 ABs for 1 HG.

>>23499834
Go look at general inflation and you will see why. I still assume nearly half the actual price for everything.
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>>23499820
That's a lot.
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I hate gcucks but Red Gundam is really cool, but I only buy 1/100
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>>23499711
Can't have your cake and eat it for this one. Holographic decals lose all sheen with a matte coat
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>>23498917
Tactical bipedal and "realistic" machines of war>super sentai megazords
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>>23499871
i think the sticker thing was unavoidable. there are 3rd party waterslides already anyways. as for the bits, i imagine they justified it with how it had 6 in one scene, 2 in another, and then none for most of the series. I don't think it would have hurt to include them but it probably kept cost down. Third party ones are on aliexpress as well.
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>>23499814
How did you manage that?
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>>23499841
The Full mechanics mailes kenbu & zan, are great and they're both constantly dirt cheap in Japan. They shelf warmed so badly that I found a first print run for half the Japanese retail price.
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just picked up my first chinkgodpla, nuke matrix fox, for under 40 bucks shipping included it's a crazy amount of content, shitload of option parts, waterslide decals, a base
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>>23499896
>transformer
>"realistic" machine of war
Yeah, right
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>>23499900
The EF star is basically completely covered, if they made it flat it would look nearly the same and work better with stickers (and decals). But I suppose it is a separate part as didn't they sell an OG Gundam colored variant?
What I meant for the bits is just to get AB arms for them in the box, not full ABs. Then you could just use it on an AB4/5 with the bits not on the kit.
I actually thought the included parts for mounting the bits where you wanted were smart.
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any good Moderoid kit?
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>>23499926
Yes.
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>>23499915
But if you sand it, the plastic will release asbestos and fibreglass.
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>>23499926
Sure
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>>23499919
The loto is just sitting down in tank mode and compared to all the space magic in gundam that's realistic
Its not doing acrobatics like bayformers
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>>23499962
So it's boring and still unrealistic?
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>>23499962
wow, this is the first muv luv design that I've seen that doesn't look exactly like every other muv luv design
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>>23499920
The gundam color one won't release until early next year but yeah it's probably futureproofing for that and the eventually p-bandai 01 gundam. The star is also just painted over for the red gundam so making it flat wouldn't be accurate and I can't imagine them making a separate flattened part just for the sake of sticker application. I used one of those wfm stands for the aerial bits for the bits
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>>23499962
Your Tieren looks all fucked up
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>>23499926
I enjoyed muramasa
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>>23499752
>>23499841
>>23499803
jebaited
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Do Figurise kits count as NG?
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>>23500019
They aren't even gunpla
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>>23500019
except the master grade goku
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>Emilia plamo
I love Emilia
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>>23500043
cute
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>>23500026
Does this have an inner frame?
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>>23500043
we HATE shitmilia here
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Its been over 2 years since AC6 came out and we still have no hope for any PCA models
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>>23500026
Is this lineart accurate?
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>>23500059
Time you spent spamming about this shit every thread could've been used on making this model yourself
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>>23499896
>all the benefits of a tank
>can literally stand up and walk over obstacles that might obstruct a tank
the Loto is perfect
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How are the RG 00 kits? I know they use the MS frame but generally how do they hold up.
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bros.. this ain't funny anymore, HLJ literally has my dam kit for a month now, no, I'm not American, shipping has been paid, shit's been processing since early August. I guess their backlog of packages is massive then? this might be the first time I'm not gonna make it for a group build not due to procrastination eating up a lot of time.
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>>23500083
have you tried emailing them asking what's up? they shipped mine
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should be illegal for post monkeys to not work on weekends
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>>23500081
I've only built the RG Qant but I had fun with it. Holds its weight alright, looks good, good build.
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>>23500093
You could punish them like that guy who keeps ordering a 115 pound anvil on amazon and then returning it every day.
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>>23500097
seems tedious i just want my toys
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>>23500097
holy kek
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>>23499926
Big O, Dangaioh and Take no Yamikazuchi
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>>23499926
Oh yaa
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>>23500158
Why the fuck did they never make anything besides the Savage?
It's just as baffling as Bandai's Knight's & Magic RD line.
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>>23500070
If I had a 3D printer I would
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>>23500181
Cook something out of HG Steel haze and random plane models
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>>23500181
buy one. you can get a 4k printer for like 150 bux
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>>23500181
3d printers are not that expensive
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>>23499206
Can you paint?
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>>23499978
As a snapshitter, muramasa looks like it requires a goddamn ton of work, specially with the pauldrons. I preordered the new muramasa kit too since I love the vn but I know im going to suffer.
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>>23500229
God this thing looks so fucking good. Can't wait for the PLAMAX version
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>>23498933
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>>23500237
>engaging with my hobby is suffering
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>>23500305
There's some kits that are thoroughly unenjoyable actually.
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>Newtype lists Odenkan paints as discontinued and marks them all 40% off
>Delists them all so the only hope of being able to purchase them is to find a working link on Google or hope the one you're looking for is suggested as a related product
I'm confused, are they trying to offload these or not?
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just bought my first bootleg and I'm not gonna lie bros it kinda smells like one of those pool supply stores
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>>23500308
yeah maybe military kits from the 90s or earlier
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>>23500320
Not him, but Zaku 2.0 despite how good of it a kit it is becomes a nightmare when you need to build the tubes.
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>>23500334
nightmare seems like a massive overstatement, i've not done the zaku 2.0 but i did the rg and the tube rings were kind of fiddly but nothing i'd call a nightmare or unenjoyable
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>>23500352
The master grade one has the ring pieces overmolded on a rubber runner and it's incredibly tight and difficult to get them off of it. Then you have to put them all onto a spring, and force another piece into the spring. The real grade is way easier.
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>>23500352
>seems like a massive overstatement
I say nightmare because at one point the tube pieces were so stuck when trying to get them off the runner I was rubbing my skin raw trying to get them off. Try to use a tool and you crush them.
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>>23500386
I figured out that you can use the tip of an exacto knife to drill out a bit of the center of the rubber to loosen it enough to get them off.
It being so tight does make it a lot easier to clean them up and paint them though.
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if it's rubber couldnt you just cut all the pieces off with the rubber inside then poke it out? or like drill out the centre so you can squish it out?
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>>23499714
I only got these but I don't like that I need to clean up the cap every time I use them because it drips on the nozzle
>Won't lacquer paint melt the plastic bottle?
as long as it isn't for long term storage, these bottles are fine (I even put hardware store paint stripper for a few days in one with no problems)
>What size steel balls do you put in the bottles?
any size that can fit through the hole, usually ~6mm diameter, also it's recommended to use glass beads as steel balls can rust
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>>23500394
It's hard plastic.
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>>23500243
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I'm only just now realizing the old GM Sniper Custom kit I've had sitting in my backlog for years came with waterslides and not stickers.
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>>23500439
When was that released? Bandai used to be a pretty cool company back in the day when they did shit like adding additional pilot figures.
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>>23500437
lol
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>>23500448
Huh. Been a while since I built it. I just remember the pain.
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This looks really good
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>>23500462
>seedshit
No
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>>23500462
>SD
No
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>>23499926
i liked working on this one
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>>23500455
just cut the runner at the sticky out bit lol
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>>23500470
pillow shading looks great but gpg bullies you for doing it instead of logsnapping or doing more realistic shading
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>>23500444
1983, it's the original MSV kit and it has one of my favorite boxarts ever. I bought because I thought it was an HG kit like a tard, but I'm glad I did because I rather like the way these old kits look when finished up. I'm planning to put him on a base and make a little mini diorama out of him like he's a wargame piece. I only realized it had waterslides when I put a picture of the manual through Google translate. The color guide also seems to be using Mr. Color paints like modern ones do. Although I think I'd want a more shiny paint for the visor instead of a flat orange.
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>>23499926
Vilkiss
Any of the Trails of ones
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>>23500475
>Bullied by fags who don't even build or paint
The horror.
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>>23500475
I don't care for the robot but his paint looks good.
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>buy tamiya double bladed nippers as replacement to old ones
>made a mistake and bought single bladed ones that looks almost the same
>only realize after it gets delivered
No...
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>>23500475
Stop trying to revise history, shitposter. You started the whole 'longsnapper' thing because YOU got mad at me for saying thay you just blast black on random edges.

And BTW longsnapping is when you just use topcoat and panel lines.
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>>23500536
Long snapping is when you paint something in the colors it comes in, when it's already color accurate. As in you're taking the "long" way to snap up a kit.
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>>23500536
i'm not involved with your feud
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I have a kit in a halfsnap state that I am don't feel inspired to continue on for some reason. I feel like it'd be ruined if I tried edge highlighting the parts I've already painted, painting the underbody doesn't really matter, and I should simply put the topcoat on it as it is and call it a day.
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>>23500533
should have bought libraton a006 for 5 dollars
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>>23500548
Nope, if snapshitting is when all you do is put it together than longsnapping is putting it together + topcoat/panel lines. BTW trying to force a meme/catchphrase is a bannable offense, which is why your posts kept getting deleted at first.
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>>23500405
what do you mean by "isn't for long term storage"? if I'm procrastinating for years and premixed all my paint in these bottles, they'd end up melting?
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>>23500570
You'd wanna use glass for that, not plastic.
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>>23500570
>>23500577
pe is lacquerproof. my bottle of lab grade mek, and all of my lacquer thinners, come in pe or hdpe bottles that are designed for long term storage. other plastics (like pp) you might have issues with long term. there's charts available online that show plastic compatibilities with various solvents
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>>23500536
>>23500548
>>23500565
mental illness
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>>23500405
mixgodding is fun it makes you feel like a chemist
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>>23500562
https://youtu.be/h8drVhaHE90?si=RopmkPo_t5Fn3_3b
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>>23500565
Nope. When I started this meme it was directly aimed towards full paint builds with no custom work in factory colors that end up looking like they haven't been painted at all. You took the long way and ended up back at the start
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>>23500658
i have terminal adhd and autism and it took me significantly over 25 years to figure this out but yeah i've found that if you just start doing stuff even if you don't want to then you at least do some of it. do that 50 times and you complete a thing
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>>23500658
>oil washes
I bought superior japanese oil paint to try this out with maybe I that's what this halfsnap really needs also also there are a few parts that somehow didn't get primed

I have another project where a water based wash somehow seeped into the paints underneath and ruined so much effort of airbrushing and I don't know at this point if I should try and save it or strip and start over.
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>>23500462
>SD
lmao
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>[UPLIFTING NEWS]
Zhang has completely fixed the Real Grade Sinanju!
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>>23500667
>When I started this meme it was directly aimed towards full paint builds with no custom work in factory colors that end up looking like they haven't been painted at all.
I feel like you are a snapshitter who is trying your best to make people ignore those nubmarks on your topcoated bare plastic. Disingenious argument is such a plague in this faggotry of a board.
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>>23500548
>Long snapping is when you paint something in the colors it comes in, when it's already color accurate. As in you're taking the "long" way to snap up a kit.
Holy snapshitter cope
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I leave nub marks visible and then I fuck up the part around the mark with my knife and call it battle damage
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One of these days I'm gonna longsnap a kit and then paint another one in the exact same colors, put them next to each other and see if they actually look the same
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>>23500734
you could just take before and after photos
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>>23500715
>Konnichiwa, dude!
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>>23500734
Check next time Newtype has a sale. They had HG V2s and I think Exia for like $12 last time which makes the experiment cheap
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>>23500734
>see if they actually look the same
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>>23500739
My local store has a Twin Ball Set for $10, I might just ride my tricycle there and pick one up
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Just got the Chinese Kshatriya in, customs roughed it up a bit and a few of the parts have fallen off the sprues, but nothing major. Plus, no tariff charge and AliExpress never ended up charging me for it, so I ended up getting it completely for free, which is a pretty good price.
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>>23500740
Most of that can be fixed with sanding outside of the stress marks on the shield.
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>>23500746
Yeah and how are you gonna fix the stretch mark? And if we are dealing with HG, how are you gonna fix the discoloration?
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>>23500734
Longsnaps are painted. The same color as the plastic. So when you topcoat it? Because they say topcoated bare plastic looks like topcoated paint.
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>>23499148
>There are very few serious model builders in the West
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>>23500715
O MY ARTICULATION...
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>>23500767
Strange to see Ikaruga here
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>>23500715
the only way to fix a Sinanju kit is to throw it against the wall
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>>23499553
What day to be alive.
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>>23499670
If I don't see people building this the day it comes out, all the people calling it a good pick are a bunch of shit posters.
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>>23500794
implying anybody here will be able to get it
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>>23500197
>>23500196
I need to get a laptop first lol
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>>23500796
I'd buy it, but I dunno how P-Bandai's no more consolidated purchases shit works now and I don't want to end up paying shipping on like 4 kits down the line.
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should i bite the bullet and buy it?
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>>23500810
1/20 Votoms kits are like, really big. I have Fatty kit and it is as tall as MG MKV.
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>>23500810
fuck no
jew shit
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>>23500810
How much is it?
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>>23500715
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1pSaPz7E8R?buvid=XXC743DCDDBBA9521771C6E8E664D4E61CD74&from_spmid=dt.space-dt.video.0&is_story_h5=false&mid=Jegb17hDlBy9E7wNClAliw%3D%3D&plat_id=116&share_from=ugc&share_medium=android&share_plat=android&share_session_id=d43d0c81-f354-4aab-9852-2c6d4524ddc0&share_source=COPY&share_tag=s_i&spmid=united.player-video-detail.0.0&timestamp=1757068155&unique_k=D4DRldK&up_id=3494373329209866
Video of the updated inner frame.

Seems simple enough. Shame Bandai had to cut corners and reuse the Mk 2 frame.
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I'm working on my first build this weekend
should I worry about cutting myself
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>>23500819
80USD equivalent (4500 flipland seanigger money) kinda trusted seller since he does meetups in malls
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>>23500822
RG Sinanju is such a mismanaged product. Bandai actually locked the closed fists behind Pbandai for some goddamn reason.
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>>23500832
Wrong pic. Sorry
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I don't like the Sinanju at all so I don't care.
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>>23500838
Don't you worry, because they'll cook up Sinanju stein conversion kit soon probably maybe
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>>23500840
The Stein is slightly better but it has too many kits and I don't know the difference between any of them so I don't care about it either.
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>>23500843
Jesus christ, just say you hate Unicorn as whole. What's up with this edgelord faggotry?
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are paint mixers a meme?
i kinda want to get a cheap chinesium one, its like 10 bucks
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>>23500851
I don't hate Unicorn as a whole, I like the Unicorn and Jesta a lot and probably some other stuff I'm forgetting. But the Sinanju in particular is just really gaudy and not in an interesting way. The Stein is better but like I said, I have no idea what the difference is between the Master Grades of it so I've never bothered building it.
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I don't care about the fact that you don't like Sinanju at all.
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>>23500856
You announced that you "don't care " about something in such a vocal manner, i'm starting to think you are just being disingenious.
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I WILL buy seed kits but I will NEVER EVER say I like seed
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buying seed kits and painting them with my seed
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>>23500863
I don't care that you think I'm being disingenuous.
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Everytime Zak managed to review a Ma.K, it feels like his soul just returned to his body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RycGJd1hACY
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>>23500874
Ok faggot
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how is it having plamo friends
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>>23499316
Give me source on where this came from. There's a lot to grill with this opinion.
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>>23500750
>Yeah and how are you gonna fix the stretch [sic] mark?
can be easily done with inks before topcoat
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Hello friends. Ive decided to apply water slide decals, clear coat, and panel lining for the first time. What order should I do this in? My assumption is panel lining > decals > clear coat. Thank you.
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>>23500899
No ink, no marker, no chemicals any kind. Just basic snap if you want to make a comparison to your lore accurate paintjob.
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>>23500888
Watching his enjoyment with Ma.K kits makes want to get one soon.
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>>23500902
>no chemicals any kind
plastic model is chemicals
hobby knife and nippers are chemicals
sandpaper is chemicals
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>>23500901
That works, add a gloss clear coat before the panel lining if the parts are ABS or if you assembled it already.
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>>23500909
>if the parts are ABS or if you assembled it already
Is there a specific reason?
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>>23500901
We arent your friends fag.
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>>23500919
We are friends and I am not a HOMOSEXUAL
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>>23500743
Waterslides got a little fucked up. Think I should ask for a refund?
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>>23500906
Doesn't matter. Snapbuild should look like this. No colored ink, no marker, no paint, visible stretch marks in some areas.
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>>23500928
>refund
>chink kit
lol
lmao
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Holy fuck who CARES
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>>23500930
They did it once, why not a second refund?
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>>23500929
nice CLEAN build
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I bought a Chinese kit to practice on and they sent it to the wrong house
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OK Chinkshills, you win. I finally want to buy one.

Now tell me where I can buy it that isn't HLJ since lmao no more shipping
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>>23500947
chinese god kinos are not available to americans
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>>23500913
The flow type panel liners can crack ABS. If PS is under stress (read - assembled), it can also crack from them, but Bandai's KPS on newer kits largely avoids this (but still panel line early as it's easier).
This is because flow panel liner has a ton of enamel thinner in it.
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>>23500947
Wait where have I seen this before?
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>>23500715
Apparently they did nothing for the arms, so it's still going to struggle to hold up the weapon and shield.
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>>23500734
Of course they won't look the same. Holy fuck so many of you are genuinely braindead.
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>>23500462
Aerial looks better
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>be me, a productive and dedicated slave to my wages
>haven't had a day off in almost 2 months
>order some nice new nippers so their arrival will coincide with this weekend which I, at long last, actually have off
>tfw finally getting to sit down and work on my backlo-
>the nippers didn't show up
>checked status, stuck in a delivery loop
I don't have a reaction image for how I feel.
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>>23500963
RG Sinanju can hold weapons just fine. Its arm is actually the best part on the kit. It feels abit rubbery when you bend the joints but it gets the job done.
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>>23500972
Lol, okay.
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He’s coming. ( I decided not pay an extra 100$ for the Alpha version )
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>>23500985
>He
That's Ryou's wife.
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Just got done with my first try at panel lining and top coating.
How can I prevent smudged panel lines? Is the only way scribing?
Also the matte top coat seems to have not applied perfectly, some parts are slightly glossy still. What could be the reason? I've carefully polished and cleaned every part before panel lining and top coating (I applied 2 layers).
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>>23500988
He’s coming in his wife
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>>23500996
Blending out the panel line is good, then it actually looks like a shadow from scale & depth and not just drawing on it with a marker
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>>23500999
I wanna jerk off while in a mobile suit.. must be great
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>>23500947
>Zabul
haha it's funny cause it's name is similar to Zaku!
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>>23501018
Agreed.
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>>23498917
>have shitton of paint
>pre-thinned it all 1:2 in squeeze bottles with mixing balls
>burned out hard and went several months without painting anything
>check them now that i'm planning on painting again
>thinner seems to have mostly evaporated, all of them are much lighter
Ffffffuck
What's the move here? How do I get my paint back without overthinning?
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>>23501018
tfw I crank one out in zero g and now my spunk glob is just floating around in the cockpit
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>>23499820
Bootlegs
I've been building a steady stream of gunpla with a nearly even split of official and bootleg kits so if anyone has the authority to say this, it's me: Bootlegs have gotten good enough that they some of them get as good as or BETTER than the official kits. How? Because some of them make improvements to the kit, but mostly because the good ones have tighter joints and I like that.
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>>23501026
Paint spoons till it’s just right
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>>23500936
Time to knock on someones door
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>>23501026
how the hell did that happen? did you not properly seal your bottles?
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>>23501026
I haven't used it myself so I can't speak for how well it works but mr hobby make a replenishing agent that has the other compounds needed to restore paint that thinner alone doesn't have
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>>23501038
It's just these
It's been a long time and I can't imagine they're perfectly airtight so it seems inevitable, they've been sitting untouched in an area with no air conditioning through a hot summer

>>23501041
I'll look into that, thanks bro
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>>23501044
oh yeah I can see how your thinner evaporated. Get some hobby paint bottles from aliexpress or something
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>>23500763
No, longsnapping is when you only use topcoat and panel liner.
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>>23501026
Did you close the bottles properly? I have some prethinned bottles that are over two years old (lacquer) and can still be sprayed fine. With enamels that's another story, I had enamel paints turn to monsters of goo after a few months.
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Anyone got fucked by tarrifs when ordering from aliexpress yet?
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>>23501029
you can't get a boner in zero G
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>>23501062
Get fucked by what? Governments collect tariffs, these retailers just simply paying more taxes than usual. Putting this on you or not is optional.
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>>23501064
Maybe you can't.
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>>23500985
Did the Alpha version have any changes to it? I don't even know if the color was different. Was it just some water slides that made it different?
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>>23501072
it included a few optional beam smart gun parts from the ex-s with the boosters for legs
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>>23501072
She has 01 decal on the right shoulder, retaining S Gundam colorscheme and the G Cruiser's flaps have orange bits.
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>>23501044
I tried some of these and the plastic dissolved over time. they were filled with distilled water I had been using to clean my airbrush so I really don't know how that could have hurt the plastic
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>>23501072
Ex S - Task Force Alpha Ex S. This should clear things up for you.
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Will we ever see a RG or MG Ver Ka of the Nightingale?
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>>23501111
MG, not very likely, because the RE/100 still sells. RG, also not very likely unless as P-Bandai, because the HG exists.
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>>23501120
it's big and an rg of a char suit. the thing would probably print money
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>>23501120
People in general don't like Nightingale. Mostly because it is supposed to be an alternative universe Sazabi, yet it looks like a lovechild of The O and Qubeley. Atleast Nu Gundam still has some of Nu Gundam's traits.
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>>23501048
Got a picture of what I should be looking for?

>>23501061
I keep them screwed on tight but apparently that isn't enough
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>>23500470
picked up one of those when I preordered my Black Sarena
gonna do it up like a Starship Troopers OVA suit
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>>23500715
KONNICHIWA DUDE
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>>23501131
People in general don't like the Nightingale because it's a classic Bandai situation where each kit it has released has some flaws that the other doesn't. They can rectify this with an RG.
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>interested in MGEX Rising Freedom and Deathscythe
>found out about the empty holes everywhere and lack of colors
oh well...
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>>23501120
There has never been a RG released as P Bandai exclusive because it already had a general release HG
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>>23501131
> the lovechild of The O and Qubeley
That’s an original thought only you had, not the general consensus
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WHEN THE FUCK IS TURN X REPRINT? I CAN'T WAIT ANY FUCKING LONGER
EVERY SINGLE LOCAL PHYSICAL STORE AROUND HERE HAS A TURN X ON DISPLAY, ONE EVEN HAS IT PAINTED FULL GOLD THAT'S SO COOL, BUT I CAN'T BUY IT IT PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF
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>>23501157
>They can rectify this with an RG.
Lmao. Both RE100 and HG are decent kits, except the HG having a really long waist, which is a design preference rather than actual flaws. A hypothetical RG would contribute nothing rather than giving it an even uglier redesign.
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Anyone know the best way to strengthen/tighten a ball joint? My Zeta 2.0's waist is growing flimsy and its just a basic all joint trying to hold up the weight of the whole torso/arms/wingbinders/weapons and now it droops.
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>>23501168
tissue, double tape
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>>23501167
The RE100 doesn't have subarms.
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>>23501168
Paint it with matte paint.
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>>23501158
>MGEX Rising Freedom and Deathscythe
Come again?
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>>23501178
SD lol typo
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>>23501133
DSPIAE brand stuff. DSPIAE has their own line of paints and also their own leveling thinner which should be easier to obtain than mr.hobby thinner too, also cheaper.
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>>23501183
There’s an MGSD rising freedom?
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>>23501188
SDEX bwo... please don't be so dense...
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>GaoGao's MGSD Freedom for $10
should I get it?
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>>23501184
nta but do these only come in 75ml? I want to use these for 40ml mr color primer bottles, so I would need 120ml for convenience
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>>23501174
RG and HG Sinanju don't have bazooka, MG Turn A/Turn X don't have moonlight butterfly and so on. They still function, still the representation of the robots and that's all what matters.
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>>23501191
I’ve never even heard of it before
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>>23501205
MG Turn A has a cow though.
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>>23501205
>MG Turn A/Turn X don't have moonlight butterfly
Yeah they do, on pee bandai
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>>23500996
If it’s shallow and the lines are erased too easily, then scribing is the main way to fix it, especially when using tamiya panel liner that needs a crevice to flow. Other option could be to use a marker pen (e.g. GM01 or micron pen) and carefully erase into edge with thumb or pencil eraser. In the same vein, picking a “stronger” erasing can help with reducing smudging as it’ll clean up more. What works varies with what ink you use and how long ink’s been sat on part (30sec too soon for ink to dry, 3-5min ink’s dry and only excess gets cleaned off, 3 months will need more scrubbing)

As for the topcoat, if there isn’t any frosting (white spots from excess humidity) and simply a lack of matte, it’s probably not coated enough. Blind spots that airbrush/spray might’ve missed, not enough topcoat (part should look damp but not drenched), or first layer didn’t dry long enough before putting on second layer (30min+ between imo)
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just make your own moonlight butterfly bro
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>>23501219
That will be 50 dollars plus tax, sir!
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Daban, Gaogao, Changlong, MJH, JMS, XFS, JJ, Weimei, Axis Model.
God bless them all, especially Daban and Axis.
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>>23501200
there's this though
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008116563980.html
should be good
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>>23501226
works on my machine
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>>23501239
Preparing for Turn X i see.
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>>23501244
>1
I've had it on backorder for six years
and have lost every yahoo.jp auction due to being asleep
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snap build your backlog, put your snapshids into a big storage bin, save tons of space.
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I smash all my kits after I build them.
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>>23501239
DO you have a Jegan Normal Type?
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>>23501257
Zak, I am a big fan of your work.
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>>23501174
Now that is actually interesting. RE100 infact does have sub arms. Just some simple modification and it will be usable. Sure is abit rough for an expensive kit, but atleast it is better than nothing.
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>>23501264
Thank you. Don't forget to pre-order your Turn X and V-Dash from USAGS, you won't get them until their next reprint in two years but it's better than nothing you know?
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>>23501306
Burgers can make nothing else beside Funkopops, huh?
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>>23501315
kek
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>full inner frame on a 12$ kit
>many hand options
>comes with water slides
thank you based chang, bandai could never
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>>23501306
If you buy a blind box off them Zach will dump his entire supply of them on you.
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>>23500988
>That's Ryou's wife.
Wouldn't technically that's his sister?
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>>23500315
You only should get newer bootlegs from select companies. Like XFS, Xingdon, JMS or Daban 88*"
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>>23501334
What constitutes newer? Like generally from what year/ print run onwards? Seeing you guys have also made me tempted into buying some bootleg grunt suits for messing around with.
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>>23500855
Eh, you can use vibrator or massage gun. just put it underneath the pot or bottle and let it rip
>>23500947
Gundamit, AliExpress. I got mine Zyklon B(lack) from AliExpress. This one isn't on the preorder yet, they recently released mass production unit Buck.
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>>23501324
What kit is this?
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>>23500957
I'm pretty sure some zeonic-type MS has that kind of hat shape on it
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>>23501332
Ryou is "cheshire cat" to Alice's Alice in wonderland. He is not a brother figure, but more like something Alice can't comprehend at first but grown fond of. At the end of Sentinel, Alice lost her emotional and memory data due to the loss of Ex S's block A and B, becoming a " Bodhisattva " according to the author, unable to have romantic feelings anymore.
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>>23501385
Psycho Doga
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>>23501343
I’d say stay away from bootlegs of IBO kits or any older stuff like Seed, 00, or Wing. Unicorn is hard to call because there are so many releases from different companies, so it’s basically gambling. I’d say anything from GTO or the HG Revive line is a safe bet, even if it’s dirt cheap. Overall, anything made around 2018–2019 and later is usually solid. For example, the recent Ground Gundam, GM Spartan Black Dog, or the gold HG Hyaku Shiki (props to JMS for the undergating) are all great with no complaints. But at the same time, the HG Gusion that dropped this year is trash. So yeah, even the newew IBO kits still suck.
>>23501385
Reminds me of Starship troopers ova
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>>23501382
SNAA Thunder Incise Grace, the Gundam Asmoday lookalike. I chose it because I was interested in SNAA kits but I don't care for the knight aesthetic
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>>23501407
I see, thanks.
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Has there ever been any RE/100 kits that have become MG, or is RE/100 the deny box of MG candidates?
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>>23501421
The second one.
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>>23501421
I think the jesta and jegan were going to be re/100 kits but got hastily converted to master grades when it was obvious the line wasn't doing well.
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>>23501444
The KO is too different from the source for me to like it
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>>23501444
Psycho Doga would win, it has funnels. Higher on the tech tree.
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>>23501448
There's rumors the Deep Striker was also supposed to be a RE/100 due to its complete lack of inner frame despite being labeled a MG.
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>>23500972
No
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>>23501448
>but got hastily converted to master grades when it was obvious the line wasn't doing well.
It sells well, though. Bandai simply had a hickups in the production schedule, that's all. They just announced new Re100 kit with brand new molds. There were no such thing as " RE100 Jesta " or even Jegan to speak up beside a dismissed roadmap involving it.
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>>23501459
They both have extremely barebones frames and the armor isn't very detailed. They're very simple builds compared to other master grades from the time.
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>>23501459
>Bandai simply had a hickups in the production schedule, that's all
I mean if you want to call completely fucking up the production, reprints, and releases of new kits across the board for the past 6 or so years a hiccup, then go ahead.
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>>23501412
Cool, haven't seen this one and didn't look deeper, cause their Knights are too chinky. Yeah, chineseum kits love to put inner frames, this $13 one also have it.
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>>23501461
>They both have extremely barebones frames and the armor isn't very detailed. They're very simple builds compared to other master grades from the time.
Now i believe that alot of people here romanticized MG abit too hard. Their innerframe complexity varied from kit to kit and most of the time they look like giant HGs. And if you want them to have bunch of trash on their design like those Chingchong "redesigns", then fuck off faggot.
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>>23501480
I'm not sure the kampfer is a good example since it's old as shit and doesn't have a very good frame.
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>>23501461
What >>23501480 said. The only real requirement for modern MG is that it has a mostly complete inner frame and cockpit area. Ver Ka., MGEX, and some slum factory in a disease and toxic chemical riddled workshop in China are the only ones that go for high detail inner frames
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>>23501484
Friendly reminder that MG Jesta has a more detailed innerframe than ZZ ver Ka. So i don't get where is your whole " Re100 Jesta" conspiracy theory even came from, unless your only experience with MG was Sazabi ver Ka. Alot of relatively modern MGs don't even have innerframe, just structure frame that doesn't even form the humanoid shape without armor parts.
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>>23501517
The ZZ is a transformable kit. It doesn't have a detailed inner frame because it needs to dedicate the entire damn thing to making the transformation work.
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RE100 is just MG under different name to trick people into thinking the mainline MG have always been high quality products.
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>>23501522
poor Gogg got blacked
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>>23501521
>>ZZ is transformable
ZZ's gimmick was to split itself into 3 blocks. Unlike Zeta, which is an actual transformer, yet it has a proper innerframe that exist without relying on armor parts.
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>>23501521
What about Exia Dark Matter? Non transformable and relatively new. Does this mean it is a "Re100" to you, too?
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>>23501451
Funnels don't work under gravity, all of the Sheik Mainland mechs are terrestrial.
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>>23501448
Don't forget the Zaku Warriors, which are glorified FM.
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>>23501550
Don't forget Narrative, which is glorified Re100 :))))
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>>23501550
>which are glorified FM.
? MG Zaku Warrior came out in 2019. Bandai didn't even consider to separate FM brand from IBO just yet. The fuck?
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a wash is needed to tie this together I think
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>>23501444
The hate ruins it
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>>23501498
Alot of anons here seem to forget that Bandai make these Non Grade models all the time under different names. That does not mean stuff like MG Gogg and Kampfer were sloppy conversion of " NG Gogg " and " NG Kampfer " just because their lack of innerframe. And i honestly don't know what make this impression of them to believe that every MGs must have super detailed innerframe or else they are offshoots of something else.
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Zeus Silhouette restocked. Sneed saved Gunpla.
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>>23501463
>I mean if you want to call completely fucking up the production, reprints, and releases of new kits across the board for the past 6 or so years a hiccup, then go ahead.
Re100's previous release was Lindwurm, which was like what? 3 years ago? And they even padded those 3 years with FM kits, which is the same fucking thing to be honest.
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>>23501547
Then the Psycho Doga wins by default because anything that can work in space is cooler than things that only work on dumb ol' stupid earth.
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>>23501547
Psychoframe is magic. You can't win.
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>>23501606
I want that MG Dom.
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>>23501524
>Gogg got blacked
That's canon btw.
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I can feel it in my soul...soon, IBO will get the kits and the recognition it deserves...
MG Bael...
MG Gusion Rebake FC...
PG BARBATOS...
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>>23501606
>already had the HG Destiny Revive
>have the RG Destiny on order
>as well as the Chinese standalone Zeus Silhouette that's purportedly better engineered and doesn't require you to take the foot off of the kit to attach the leg boosters
If I didn't already have the standalone HG I might have ordered it, but I can only have so much redundancy.
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Curse you /m/, I wish I never found out about bootlegs. They're so cheap it just makes me want to keep buying. And since they're cheap, I'm not worried about fucking around in building/painting them.
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>>23501670
RG Barbatos next is my prediction, even though I don't want it.
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>>23501679
Bootlegs are great because they need proper modification to function properly. great for training your skills.
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>>23501694
Depends on which bootlegs. Gaogao bootlegs are super defective, but every other brands have improved.
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>>23501550
Zaku Warrior is more of a 1/100 RG. it looks like a frame of a modern RG upscaled to 1/100. it even has an MS advanced joint in the form of tubes at its legs.
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>>23501697
>Gaogao bootlegs are super defective
That's my point. you have to un-defect them.
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>>23501700
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I've been building some of the 1/100 FM kits and really love them. the Calamity is my favorite so far and I really love how big it is.

do you lads have an recommendations for 1/100 MG kits that are pretty large size wise? (or I guess HG/RG sets that are 1/144 but still big)
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>>23501706
my friend, what you want is a RE100 Hamma Hamma
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>>23501670
Next IBO MGs will be bael and lupus rex, in either order
Source: I feel like it
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>>23501706
DESTROY
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>>23501712
>>23501670
They should've gone straight to Lupus Rex and then Bael.
Lupus looks waaaaay too similar to Barbatos. It's a waste MG slot just like FA ZZ.
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>>23501706
those stickers really ruin the look
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>>23501706
Deep Striker
Ex-S
MkV
Sazabi and Nu Ver Ka
FAZZ, Alex and Virtue aren't very tall but they're very THICC
Re/100 Hamma-Hamma and Nightingale
1/100 Osiris Aerial Dominator
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>>23501706
>>23501728
MG Theo if you want a true fat fuck MG.
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>>23501706
The O

>>23501728
>Deep Striker
>Ex-S
>MkV
overdesigned garbage

>Sazabi
ugly

>Nu Ver Ka
good

>FAZZ, Alex and Virtue aren't very tall but they're very THICC
>Re/100 Hamma-Hamma and Nightingale
Bad

>1/100 Osiris Aerial Dominator
Great
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>>23501732
>MG Theo
I forgot about the reprint, also there's Perfect Zeong
>>23501736
>MkV
>overdesigned garbage
Dogshit taste, post discarded
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>>23501700
Yeah that is just a regular MG innerframe. You can see similar shapes in numerous other MG kits, except they can't exist without armor parts. This line is probably the most romanticized line ever.
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>>23501722
It's crazy that stickers are still the default. Water decals should be the norm and included in every kit of all grades. Maybe throw in both water and stickers for casual snapbuilders.
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>>23501745
>Nadleeh
>regular MG
Nadleeh has the same problem as Alex, where the armor is essentially an inner frame by itself, so the actual "mechanical skeleton" is very basic
>This line is probably the most romanticized line ever.
It's because of the GOAT kits like Ver Kas and 2.0 era
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>>23501736
>Mk-V
>overdesigned
oh this is bait, no wonder
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>hg pumpkin pie warrior
what am i in for bros
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>>23501751
It is not really a problem, that is just how MG usually goes. Alot of ver Ka kits don't have full innerframe, such as ZZ and Wing Zero Custom.
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Can someone recommend me some 0093-0097 era HG kits that would look good on a Base Jabber? I find myself in possession of too many sub-flight systems and not enough MS to ride them. Currently I have two Unicorn version Base Jabbers, one Type 89 Base Jabber (the double-seater where one rides on each side), one GM III, one Jegan, and one ReZEL Defenser-B (which basically is another sub-flight system in and of itself). I also have a RG Unicorn and RG Nu-FF that I can pose them around, like make a miniature diorama of Amuro being flanked by fellow Londo Bell pilots or Banagher being escorted by Nahel Argama units. I can only think to buy more GM III's, Jegans, and maybe Jestas, but what kind of suggestions does everyone have?
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What's the cheapest way to color/paint something if I have zero supplies? I would like to buy an EG Gundam and paint it in Char's colors. The alternative is that I just have it sitting next to the HG version unpainted and hope they get along somehow.
I suppose I could get the Amazing Red Warrior, but these days I've been feeling like wanting to get the EG Gundam for no reason at all. I guess it's cheap and can't disappoint.
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>>23499739
Wait is this real are you serious
But they always reprint kits what the fuck
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Anyone try the pale rider cavalry bootleg?
How is it?
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>>23501774
Acrylic paint from the typical stationary/ arts store.
Plus brush.

>>23501778
anon...
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>>23501781
And it'll definitely stick on obediently without primer? I think it's just two colors for Char, so they're probably not the worst paints to buy.
And I've been sitting indecisively on the Mk II (and every store has the AEUG and Titans versions priced differently from each other, i.e. I've never seen a store that sold them both for the same price, nor was it even consistent which one they sold for more)
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>>23501790
>And it'll definitely stick on obediently without primer
Nta. Only if you sandpaper whole kit. I recommend getting something like army painter white can primer, it should cost around 11-12 bucks. It's should be good enough for beginner, so you probably wouldn't overspray and clog up all details and stuff.
My cheapskate setup is no name plastic primer I got for $4, cause I'm overconfident, $17 xdovet airbrush paints and $12 chinese portable nail airbrush.
Oh, and you should get some blu tack and at leask coffe steering sticks, so you can put your parts on them and spray them.
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>>23501804
>nail airbrush.
Really not beating the 'building gunpla to painting nails pipeline' allegations.
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>diorama materials almost here
this is exciting
I've never done a "scene" before
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>>23501814
It's also doubles as chocolate airbrush, so you can throw a joke about niggers
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>>23501804
Wouldn't a $12 airbrush kill me? I'd also need to figure out ventilation. I assume I'd need that for the primer as well, or at least some separate space where I don't mind primer getting on things.
I forgot about the things that hold the parts while they dry
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>>23501774
I've heard tell of sponge painting bringing good results.
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>>23501829
Ventilation is mainly a thing with lacquers, acrylics you don't need to worry about as much (though moving air still helps). As for alligator clips, you can buy a pack of 12 for like $5 USD. Most dedicated painters here have 100+ so they can paint multiple pieces at once, especially since the parts count can get pretty damn high with RG and MG kits.
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>>23501829
You're meant to to have a little box to airbrush in and yes, ideally you do it outside. You can also paint the primer with a brush, some people do it that way, but it's likely not as convenient as airbrush.
https://youtu.be/ja9Caso7BGw
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>>23501830
I can try going to the mall and straight up asking the makeup whatever people if I can just have a sponge so I can paint toy robots, I wouldn't put it past me to do it, and both the lady and I will have a story to tell
>>23501835
I was hoping to just balance my various parts precariously on paper and then perhaps paint the other side as needed, that's what I sometimes did while markering. If I was lucky and it was just a beam saber, I could make it hold it and go to bed. Also not sure whether to paint just the exteriors or the entire part, my autism will remind me that it's not real lunar titanium if it's still green inside, or something. Whereas if I'm painting literally just an Easy Grade, would the extra effort make that much of a difference? I guess it's also a low parts count, so it's not that much extra effort either.
>>23501839
>seeing 40 thousand posts about anons waiting for better air quality and humidity
There's very frequent construction around here, so I don't think the air will ever be good.
Wait, I have to sand AND prime before painting? I thought the purpose of primer was to give the paint something to hold onto to begin with!
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>>23501858
Sanding is to smooth down the surface as much as possible, particularly for gates. You don't want the nubs to be popping up underneath your paint job, so you cut and sand them down so that you have a flush surface to apply the primer and paint to.
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>>23501862
Sanding has not been smoothing surfaces very well, I lack either the tools or the skills for that, possibly both. There's various metal files and sandpaper and all they've done is just make scratches wider and worse, or otherwise causing new problems. I've been grinding nubs away into oblivion with my fingernails with relatively no issue, and the nub marks have been fine just as long as panel-liner or marker never ever ever gets anywhere near a nub mark.
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>>23501829
>Wouldn't a $12 airbrush kill me?
No, just some medical mask and open window will be enough with acrylics.
>>23501830
It's okay with Warhammer and stuff cause it's creates texture on more round parts or do something akin to drybrush on big areas. I don't think this will work well on mostly flat gunplas.
>>23501858
>I was hoping to just balance my various parts precariously on paper and then perhaps paint the other side as needed, that's what I sometimes did while markering.
Get wooden coffee stick, they like 100 pieces/$2 and blue tack, it's like $1.5. And stick them in the shoe box, if you don't want to ger alligator clips for some reason.
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>>23501866
That's what higher grit sandpaper and/or tools are for. The higher the grit, the smoother the finish but the less effective it is. The way it's usually done is, you start with low grit (AKA rough) sandpaper that can quickly and efficiently clear lots of nub material, then progressively swap to higher grit (AKA finer) sandpaper to buff out the more obvious scratches left by the previous sandpaper jobs. Usually I cut off as much of the nub as I can with a hobby knife first, that leaves less for the sandpaper to do and I can switch to higher grits earlier.

Depending on your preference you could also go for a glass file (not a name brand one, just a generic Chinesium one from Amazon, maybe even nail salon grade ones). I bought a set of three from Amazon when I first started out, approximately 2,000 grit and can clear nubs super nicely.
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>>23501798
Kind of surprised The Zudah or Oggo never got a MG kit, since they were the most popular units from the series. I think the only thing that came out of it was some P-Bandai recolors of the Zaku II, Dom, and Gouf
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RE/100 was my favorite line of Gunpla and I'm disappointed it was only used for misfit kits that couldn't justify an MG. My recent MK-III build really highlighted to me just how much I dislike MGs and wish they made more RE/100s.

I prefer 1/100 scale to 1/144, I just think 1/144 kits clutter a shelf too quickly and they're too small to really have the presence I want, but most MGs are too complex, especially the more recent ones, those complex inner frames are pointless for me since I glue up my kits when completed, and the over detailed exteriors lock you into a specific look when a less detailed kit is like a blank canvas I get to play around on with my own details.
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>>23501879
CGI series don't usually get much kits. RFV got 2 retail HGs and a P-Bandai set. That's it. No Gouf, no GM or Zaku Tank.
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>>23500957
Kinda looks like a certain mortar headd
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>>23501467
Is this that Shrek Mainland stuff? Shit looking kinda neat with the Kondo front skirts.
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/gpg/ when are you coming over and build with me? I have your favorites here.
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>>23501879
Zudah wouldn't likely getting MG kit but RE 1/100 might be. [spoile]But likely in P-Bandai [/spoiler]
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>>23502005
>nothing but bandaishit
pleb tier
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>poorfag
lmao
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>>23502005
>no Gyoubu kinos
pass
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Why's RG more expensive?
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>>23501271
This, but unironically
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>>23502133
G Gundam MGs are just pretty cheap
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>>23501670
MG Kimaris Vidar or fuck off.
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>>23502133
25 year old kit at this point I think.
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>>23500957
It’s a twinked out Breda
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>>23500957
G Gundam
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>>23502173
Finally someone else sees it
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>>23501467
>>23500947
>Sheik Mainland
Funny that, I built their Yunque just a few days ago.
People aren't exaggerating when they say their kits are physically rock fucking solid.
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>>23502194
I don't like those polycaps hands
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They did this once before..
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>>23502215
They've done it more than once.
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>>23502219
Those aren’t bad guys
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>>23502221
What does this even mean
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>>23502221
>Base jabber not a bad guy.
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>>23502210
The hands are from rubber and leave ugly marks once you snip them. It's my only major gripe with the kit besides the balljoints being a pain during assembly.
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>>23502221
Like half those are bad guys.
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>>23499129
What about Chinese, LED wizardry from SDARK's videos?
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>>23502235
They’re all remolds of general release kits besides the shokew
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When are we getting a Zeta 3.0?
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>>23502284
Never.
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>>23502286
It’s more likely than you think
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>>23502238
I only know raystudio
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>>23502284
3.0 line failed, it was way over engineered. MGEX is what it turned into and even that line looks like it's not going to make it.
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>1/100 Masurao
are you getting it?
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>>23502329
3.0 was never a “line”
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>>23502329
pretty sure the 3.0 was a one time thing
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>>23502219
Best damn kits Bandai ever made...
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we need an rx-78-2 4.0
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>>23502335
Why is there a pile of broken pieces behind it ?
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>>23502284
Considering we just got the Ver.Ka? 2027 at the earliest.>>23502341
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I want Zeong 2.0 to go with my RX-78-2 3.0

The RG Zeong is a thing of beauty, we could use something like that in 1/100. The MG Zeong is ancient.
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>>23502348
FAT CAT upscaled RG Zeong when?
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>>23502348
No we need a RG Gelgoog and Shiki to go with my Zeong
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>>23502348
The only downside is the inevitable Perfect Zeong 2.0 that would come afterwards would 100% be a P-Bandai exclusive marked up in price and only release once every decade
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>>23502352
I actually agree. MG 2.0 Gelgoog is underrated.
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when MG Perfect Zeong Ver.KA [Thunderbolt Version]?
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>>23499206
can this be considered a bug unit?
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>>23502356
After Atlas but before Perfect Gundam
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It's crazy that people are begging for ver 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, 99.0, Ka of kits that already exist.
How about y'all beg for NEW THINGS?
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>>23500229
What do you call the texture they used on the MG cover? It has like this rainbow hue around the edges. I'd like to know what that kind of paintjob is even called and if anyone has actually pulled it off.
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>>23502364
because getting new things out of Bandai is a fool's errand since 2018
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>>23502360
>MG Atlas
by Zhang
Bandai hates 1/100.
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>>23502359
Get one and paint it blue, white and yellow
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>>23502366
Return of the king / Vaseline on the lens
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>>23502369
Get one, paint it white and give it Crossbone's cloak (painted red)
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>>23502373
Stop trying to make me have sex with it.
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Give your honest thoughts on this model.
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>>23502366
Pearlescent paints are the way to go probably
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>>23502366
It is a shade of pearl white with matte texture and weathering.
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>>23502364
I don't want new things, I want old things but with sleeker proportions, better articulation, and more detailed parts.

When I have Gundam 3.0 or Sazabi Ver.Ka level engineering on the dozen or so MS I like I can die happy. The O Ver.Ka when? Zeong 2.0? Char's Gelgoog 3.0? Qubeley 2.0?

I'm not going to buy an MG of the Berga Dalas or Geymalk, sorry.
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>>23502386
Silly tau
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>>23502393
>>23502389
Ahh, Pearlescent seems correct, thanks. I had no idea what it was called and I've never actually seen someone try to do that on a dunbine kit.
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>>23502398
>I'm not going to buy an MG of the Berga Dalas or Geymalk, sorry.
How about MG of series after SEED like Arios, Harute, Cherudim, Zabanya, Seraphee, Reborns, Arche, Thrones, Stargazer, G-Self, Barbatos Lupus Rex, Flauros, Gusion Full City, Bael, Aerial, Aerial Rebuild, Pharact, Daribalde, Schwarzette, Calibarn, all the GCucks Gundams?
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what we need are more Unicorn recolor variants (PBandai (Gundam Base (Osaka) Limited))
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>>23502419
I was just joking but it's actually real what the fuck
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>retail is all Unicorn
>pban is all Unicorn
>limiteds is all Unicorn
>bootlegs is all Unicorn
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>>23502219
Half the list could have a repurposed inner frame from another robot. Only the Gun-Ez I think couldn't and Shokew because they're midgets.
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>>23502412
I really only care enough about UC to buy an MG.

At most I'll pick up an HG of a MS that I think looks cool from one of those series, because an HG represents like maybe a week long commitment, but I'm unlikely to have the attachment to them to commit to an MG build of them. Maybe if I just snapfit straight build my kits I'd buy more varied MGs, but an MG is like a month long project and I have to really care about the subject if I want to finish. That's not going to happen with anything from G, Wing, Seed, 00, Greco, IBO, Gwitch, Gcucks, ECT.

I like OG Gundam, Char's Gelgoog, Zeong, Alex, Kampfer, Zeta, Hyaku Shiki, MK-II/Super Gundam, Rick Dias, The O, ZZ, Qubeley, Nu Gundam, Sazabi, F91, Victory and maybe a handful of other MS mostly from UC. I have a soft spot for the Tallgeese despite not being a fan of most Wing suits for example, that's my only Non-UC MG. So those are pretty much the only MS I'll ever buy MGs for. There are a few MSVs I like which are like the bastard children of one or more of these I'd be interested in like the Delta Gundam or the Gundam MK-III but I'm more than happy with a RE/100 for stuff like that.
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>>23502366
Alclad Spectral Chrome. you can also achieve a similar effect by spraying chameleon paint over a gloss white base coat.
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>>23502398
This thing is pretty cool what's your problem? Also what is Katoki's problem?
>Gay Milk
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>>23502460
I didn't say it wasn't cool, I'm just not going to buy an MG of it.

RE/100 would be an insta buy for me though.
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>>23502425
the SIlver Phenex was a variant that appeared on the Greco special movie that was only shown at Gundam Front Tokyo. the reissue will probably have a different box because GFT doesn't exist now.
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>>23502465
>RE/100 would be an insta buy for me though.
Meh. I don't want 1/100 HGs.
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>>23502456
This one turned out to be super grainy for me
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RE100 would have been the perfect line for all the cool G-Reco designs they didn't trust enough to make MGs of.
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>>23502481
Alclad Spectral Chrome has very large flakes. if you can manage to find Armored Komodo chameleon pigments, they're much finer
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>>23502480
>I don't want 1/100 HGs.
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>>23502480
I do. I prefer 1/100 just because I like that size better and think the simpler builds and sturdier construction of glorified HGs is preferable for most kits. MGs are reserved for my absolute favorites, they take so much time to paint and detail I'm not buying MGs of anything I don't love. I like fixed hands too, and I don't need to display the intricately detailed inner frame of every kit I build so why waste a week of my life on something I'm just going to cover up?

Yeah, when I want to go all out on something I love like the Zeta, no HG would ever satisfy me so I have to get the MG, but for most stuff I just want 1/100, and I'd be happy with a glorified HG of it, I can detail the exterior as much as I want, and the simpler design gives me more freedom to experiment on. So as long as the kit has the articulation and looks good from the outside I don't care. I glue up my kits once I get them into a pose I want prior to painting anyway. So much of the extra detail of an MG will never be seen.

>>23502486
I agree, I wish RE100 got way more kits, it was the perfect line for me.
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>>23502499
>So much of the extra detail of an MG will never be seen.
Every excuse in the book to justify bandai giving us cheap shit toys.
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>>23502502
If you want expensive toys, go buy Metal Build.
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>>23502488
I'll look into it, thanks
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>>23502502
gunpla is cheap toys by nature
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>>23502503
>500 dollar robots for no reason and they're basically action figures
It's amazing how you dogshit you shills are.
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>>23502502
I want kits, not really toys. I like to build something, put it into a cool pose, glue it up, paint it up, put it on a stand and then put that on a shelf. I don't really want to play with my Gunpla after I build it. I find the enjoyment in adding detail to the kit. I want good articulation so I can get it into an interesting pose, I want it to look good on the outside because that's what everyone is going to see. What I don't need (most of the time) is a ton of overengineered innerframes and gimmicks with weak fiddly hands. Sometimes that's exactly what I want, again for the handful of MS I really care about and I want to display with open hatches or something like that MG is the clear option, but again for most kits I don't need that and I'd be happy with 1/100 HGs.
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>>23502284
I'd much rather have an RG 2.0.
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>>23502518
>I want kits, not really toys
And that's why you're asking for less detail, less intricacy for the model kits. I know, I know all the arguments flip flopping every second to justify bandai's greed and hyper stinginess.
>ton of over engineered frames
And that's a whole other conversation altogether, because over engineered frames aren't needed either. Most of the time they're even a detriment. However that doesn't mean bandai should cheap out and not include them.
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>>23502518
Unironically this. I can't give 2 shits about what the skeleton inside looks like or how many articulated flaps it has, it looks ugly anyway and i don't want to see it. A kit needs a presence on the shelf and that's all i need.
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>>23502523
>>23502284
>bandai please I've bought this toy from you twice already I need to buy the same thing a third time!
What the fuck is wrong with you "people"?
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>>23502526
So go buy action figures then if you don't want model kits.
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>>23502364
I begged for something new and now we got the GQUUUX line. Monkeypawed to hell.
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>>23502525
>less detail, less intricacy for the model kits.
Anon, most of the time these robots don't actually flex their inner machineries out. They are sealed in armor and act like a human.
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I told Zak just unboxing isn't real content
He said "you're right, let me switch to boxing then" and he punched my guts
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>>23502535
A car model kit has the hood closed, does that mean the engine shouldn't exist or be a block of wood? I guess we're in the era of "ACKSHUALLY they aren't model kits" now?
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>>23502528
Ask a military model builder why he has an entire shelf of Tiger IIs in different sizes and colors, its the same thing. Some people just like building kits of the things they like and will buy and build that thing over and over and find enjoyment each time.
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>>23502530
>if you don't want model kits.
The fuck? Most of models don't do much, alot of them are straight up statues with with 2 runners.
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>>23502542
A military model kit builder isn't begging tamiya to re-release the tiger a million times with a number attached to it. And if you want to take this argument in a different direction, a Tiger is a mass produced tank, the Zeta is not.
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I bought a mystery box from Usa Gundam store and it came with a 5 Apex hobby mascots (boxes smashed) and a dog turd.
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>>23502548
That's weird because I got a MG Turn X.
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>>23502541
that's what we call "Curbside" model kits. some have engine detail, but halfass it with "engine tub" assemblies, then there's Tamiya who goes out of their way to fully render the whole drivetrain and monocoque
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>>23502541
>does that mean the engine shouldn't exist or be a block of wood?
Alot of traditional scale models don't have that, anon. Hasegawa Harrier II Plus is a literall clamshell with a cockpit. There is no engine or innerframe. I actually shoved bunch of junk parts inside this thing because it is that hollow.
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>>23502552
>fully render the whole drivetrain
That's what I expect out of a model kit. These aren't wooden toys. Are there going to be concessions taken because of the scale size? Absolutely and I'm fine with that and understand. What I don't understand is making excuses for when they could include that level of detail but choose not to. Is there a technical reason they can't do it? No. Is there a monetary reason they can't do it? No.
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>>23502559
>There is no engine
And that's called being a greedy cunt and doing it because dumb drooling retards are happy to part with their money. Planes are even more egregious based on their size.
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>>23501168
Shove a dab of acrylic paint in the socket, shove the ball joint in there and wait for it to dry. Works wonders
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>>23502546
That number just represents a new building experience, that's what most people want, the same thing but different enough. The familiar with a new coat of paint, its why the RX-78-2 has about 100 kits and they always sell well. So again like the Tiger II fan the RX-78-2 fan just wants to build RX-78-2s, the Zaku fan just wants to build Zakus, and the Zeta fan just wants to build Zetas, and a Zeta 3.0 4.0 5.0 ect just represents another excuse to buy their favorite thing again in a new form and then they get to compare and contrast all the little improvements bandai has made over the years. I mean haven't you bought one of those ancient MGs from 1999 only to buy the new one from 2014 or whatever and enjoyed seeing how far they've come?

>but in canon there is only one Zeta!
Why would that get in the way? Look at Star Wars model builders, they build like a dozen Millennium Falcon and no one cares, some people just like building different versions of the same design. They aren't out to catch 'em all.
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>>23502569
>that's what most people want
To rebuy the same thing over and over but with slightly different builds? Are you a bandai employee because you sound like a fanatic trying to gaslight me and everyone else to rebuy the same fucking thing we already have three of. If people want new building experiences, make new robots. I may hate most gwitch and gcucks kits but I'll take that over zeta 25.0. The former is insulting, the latter is malicious.
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>>23502577
>we already have three of
sounds like you like rebuying the same thing over and over if you have 3 already
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>>23502525
>>23502530
I don't see the problem with offering a cheaper alternative to the MG in 1/100 scale. I like 1/100 but most of the time I don't want an $80 kit when half the parts will never be seen once I build it. I'd often take a $40 kit, with the same level of articulation that looks just as good on the outside. If they expanded out the RE100 line to include things that aren't obscure I'd welcome it. Its also just so much faster to build and paint a kit without those super complex innerframes.
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>>23502560
there are multiple factors for that. the reason why the Tamiya LFA was that detailed is because Toyota gave them full schematics of the whole car to work on. other cars Tamiya designers are just eyeballing them from photo references. you see this mostly on their recent motorsport models. sometimes they're just cutting corners by omitting engine detail for example since most modelers build them closed anyway.
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>>23502577
>To rebuy the same thing over and over but with slightly different builds?
Yes, that's exactly what most people want. There will be more excitement over yet another RX-78-2/Zaku II than there will be over an MG Cherudim Gundam. That's just the way people are.
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>>23502580
we means the collective you stupid monkey.
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>>23502581
>I don't want an $80 kit
The MG Zaku 2.0 is 47 dollars right now on the first site in a search and that's due to inflation + other factors. So it sounds like you're just fishing for excuses at this point on why the small trillion dollar family company is too cheap to give us well detailed model kits.
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>>23502605
That kit could then hypothetically be like $25 if you reduced the complexity. It'll always be cheaper to make a kit with less plastic and fewer parts. All those little parts add cost to the kit.
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>>23502622
The re/100 zaku actually costed more lol
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/gpg/ logic dictates us that Bandai should just stick with reprinting this forever and never improve on it.
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>>23502643
I do not see how they could reasonably improve upon the zeta ver.ka enough to justify developing a 3.0
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>>23502653
They can always do what they did for Gundam 2.0 vs Gundam 3.0, one is more anime accurate the other goes all out on details and attempts to look more realistic. That kind of shit.

That said I agree its way too soon for another Zeta Gundam MG.
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>>23502622
>It'll always be cheaper
Yeah, it will always be cheaper. I still expect that the yearly record breaking profit company gives me the highest quality product they can. You retards are the reason why this dog shit exists. bandai knows they can sell you trash and you'll eat it up, maybe you'll even pay extra for the DLC to fix it.
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>>23502678
Which Hyaku Shiki is this?
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>>23502675
That's a fair point.

>>23502682
It's the sneed version
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>>23502643
>dude, it's improved!
>how?
>IDK, but bandai said it's improved! it's got like super resolution 6.0 going on!
Improvement for the sake of improvement is not improvement. If we take a look at the 3.0 >>23502675 here it's a detriment even.
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>>23501996
Yeah, this is the Sheik Mainland kit. I’m building this guy right now, and honestly, it’s pretty solid. Most of the parts are undergated well enough that it barely needs any cleanup. The only thing I don’t like is how glossy the plastic is. I’ll probably just hit it with a matte topcoat, throw on some decals, and leave it unpainted, except for the eyes. I already painted them with an neon marker so they glow under UV light, kinda like a Panzer Cop helmet. The overall design cool mix of F90, Wolf Brigade, and Darth Vader aesthetics.
>>23502234
>>23502210
I’ve got mixed feelings about the rubber hands. They look kinda ugly, and cleaning them up without damaging them is almost impossible. But they’re pretty sturdy since you can slip weapons into them and they’ll hold on tight, instead of falling apart like HG hands usually do. Despite that, I’ve been having a blast playing around with it. And they will wear down and crumble. And I'll cry cursing chinks.
>>23502577
>To rebuy the same thing over and over but with slightly different builds?
I like to build GTO Zaku 2. That's why i buy every new bootleg variation, cause i can spent more time building it and deshitifying it.
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>>23502703
There's a reason Bandai still re-prints the 2.0 and 3.0, but not the 1.0.

>Improvement for the sake of improvement is not improvement
It's not an "improvement", it's meant to be a recreation of the 1/1 Gundam in MG scale.
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>>23502736
They do reprint the gundam 1.0 and 1.5. Last year I bought a new production gundam 1.0.
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>>23501324
Finished snapping it up
Nice kit, but the joints are all very tight outside of the hip swing out, which makes the legs kind of annoying to pose, and there are a few seam lines that would be tough to weld without locking other parts in there (but they're pretty small so you could probably get away with ignoring them)
Lots of tiny parts like the yellow bits all over the suit, felt like I was building a koto kit at times
On the equipment, I don't care much for the arm blades being asymmetrical and the big cannon is a bit weird: it has a swing out handle and a chainsaw handle-looking bit at the back but there's nothing in the manual that suggests how it's supposed to be held, there's only images of it being used like a shoulder cannon (but it can't do that from the way its posed on all the other images, you'd have to take it off and put it back on the other way around)
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>>23502741
I've seen the 1.5, but I've never seen a reprint of the 1.0. Guess I'll eat crow on that one if I ever see a blue logo one.
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>>23502755
To be fair, it was the G3 colors version that never got a 1.5 iteration.
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>>23502755
>eat crow
Not that anon, but that is the first time I have seen that phrase being used accordingly.
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>>23498933
Making progress on my railgun, Amazon fucked up the delivery of my magnets so I'm finishing up other details in the meantime
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>>23502755
>>23502760
I also just looked it up and you can buy a new production 1.5 on USAGS right now. There's very little difference between it and the 1.0
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>>23502776
scratchbuilt? looks very cool
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>>23502788
They still regularly print the 1.5 for some reason
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>>23502806
It's a nice piece of history and it's fun to display all the gundam versions together.
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>>23502794
A few parts came from the Freedom, the GBN Gundam and a 30MM option parts kit, the rest is scratch-build
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>>23502386
Pretty good, but I'm confused why the other guy built a HG EX-S from 2 decades ago as his first kit.
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What's most I should spend on the HG Moon Gundam, considering the market and availability? I'm new to the hobby so I don't have a real grasp on how prices are fluctuating.
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>>23502911
You shouldn't spend anything on it
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>>23502678
Anon, that thing is literally a victim of "complexity", having an innerframe while being 13cm tall. Its low efforted HG counterpart is actually much better.
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>>23502703
The Zeta ver ka is fine, but the RG Zeta is objectively the worst kit in the line. It DESERVES a 2.0. When a kit is as fucked as the Zeta, it needs a do over.
This isn't about slightly different aesthetics or build experience. It's about the engineering of the original being total shit.
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>>23502934
It's fine if you leave it in MS mode
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>>23498938
perhaps im too engrossed on this kit. this christmas ill defintively get a daban of 7 swords
>the sticker on the torso for the rear GN drive was blue when it was supposed to be yellow
>used one of the spare yellow light to cut and polish a transparent part for that piece
>the 2 fork funnels would not sit still. i had 2mm magnets so i decided to try a mod
>theres now a total of 8 magnets holding the funnels in place. everything snaps nicely, they close and are held with no effort
>placed weights on the legs so it can stand with no issues
ill mod the rear skirt to hold the sword in place now
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>>23502911
You should buy the JJ bootleg for no more than $20. I have the official kit of the Moon Gundam and the bootleg JJ Varguil and they're basically the same. Just make sure it's the JJ one and not STAR.
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>The Changs are copying Bandai's lego hands now
Kek
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>>23502958
Yeah but unlike Bandai they include some good open hands too. And probably like 2 other gestures.

Also this has to be an early prototype, that's rough as hell
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>>23501876
>No, just some medical mask and open window will be enough with acrylics.
Yeah but I need some sort of miniature paint studio set up as well
I'll think about blue tack as well, that might be handy for other things. Sticks and clips/tack really shouldn't be something that bothers me cost-wise
>>23501878
I only have one grit of sandpaper that doesn't feel very rough, but I couldn't tell you which it was, I was just told it's the good one for this.
>it is intended to buff out the scratches from the literal sandpaper from prior
Oh, I thought I was just doing it badly
Was also told that glass files make everything easier and you can just bypass all the other standing
But anyway, I swear the video said you have to sand pieces entirely for the primer to attach
https://youtu.be/ja9Caso7BGw?t=145
I JUST want to be able to take a finished kit and then paint it
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>>23502934
>It's about the engineering of the original being total shit.
this is where my DLC to fix it comment comes in as that's essentially what some of these are.
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>>23502958
retard
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>>23502983
That is correct, you can just glass file a nub from the start without using increasing grits of sandpaper. It's just recommended to try to cut the nub down as much as possible so that there's less work to do afterward.

And no, to my knowledge you don't want to rough up a Gunpla surface with sandpaper before priming it. That sounds stupid as fucking hell and a recipe for your pieces having uneven coats of paint. At the most you want to wash down the pieces with very diluted detergent to get rid of residual mold release (mostly a problem with non-Bandai kits since Bandai are super good about this stuff) and the oil from your fingerprints from handling the pieces.

Here's the ultimate lesson though: It's okay to make mistakes, because learning is part of the fun. Your very first paint attempt is rarely ever going to be perfect, and you should expect to make mistakes going in. That's perfectly fine, that's just how life works, but if you don't want it to cost you then you do your paint job to a super cheap kit so that if you accidentally "ruin" it then you aren't out an expensive MG.
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>>23503012
>This retard is calling me retarded
They are new assemble toys based on the kits, you fucking moron. The original Hexmoxian kits don't have lego hands.
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>>23503018
I'll try to look into a glass file soon, seems like I can at least cut down on quite a bit of time. Maybe actual panel-liner to instead of using marker, wiping away marker, reapplying marker, wiping some away again, etc.
>that sounds stupid as fucking hell
But the video...
>oil from your fingerprints
Should I be wearing gloves for this?
>It's okay to make mistakes, because learning is part of the fun.
I know technically all mistakes are theoretically correctable, but I get fucking inconsolable if I mess up a kit I care about. Inversely, I've been having a blast from start to finish getting fun kits I got at a bargain or was indifferent to. I think it's a legitimate autism thing.
I don't really feel the need to paint every kit apart from minor color correction, although I was told that even just applying finish makes them look nicer, but I thought it'd be nice to have a cheap red Gundam that doesn't look like ass. I think I got used to the plastic swirls and default unpainted plastic from western toys, and I'm just happy to have these robots standing around.
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>>23503036
be careful that you get a nanofile, not the frosted glass type of glass file
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>>23503033
my bad, I take it back. that looks horrific
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>>23503039
exact same shit, literally
both are etched glass
"nanofiles" just have gaps between etched areas to make them easier for retards to control
all marketing bullshit
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New China Kino on the way.
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>>23503084
what a mess
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>>23503084
>aggressive spikes everywhere
>"full armor" abomination that you can't make heads or tails of
>some sort of "energy halo" that makes no sense in any sort of context
Yep, definitely Chinese, but far from "kino."
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>>23503084
it's ugly as shit but also has some sauce to it
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>>23503084
Pleas get a Gogg instead
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>>23503084
its big enough to be a real trophy
magical mecha are kinda weird tbqh
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if it was AoZ you'd basedface at it
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>>23503090
>Yep, definitely Chinese, but far from "kino."
You're right, it's extra kino and it's $60 USD. Bandai's days are numbered.
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>>23503105
i don't like aozlop either
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>>23503105
which kit are you talking about
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>>23503105
Yes
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>>23503118
what a mess
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>>23503118
This looks like a blob.
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>>23503084
that's pretty rad
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>>23503118
Cool robot

>>23503119
>>23503120
Faggots
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>>23503123
Make a shadow or whatever it's called of your robot and it would be indiscernible from a cloud. It has zero defining detail and worse yet the way its been illustrated doesn't allow your eye to separate its own body segments from each other.
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>>23503127
>Make a shadow or whatever it's called of your robot and it would be indiscernible from a cloud
It's camo. You wouldn't want a discernible silhouette. It's realistic.
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>>23503127
Blah blah blah, what makes you think you know anything about design?
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>>23503127
>Make a shadow or whatever it's called
Do you mean a silhouette, my brain damaged friend?
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>>23503138
I acknowledged that "shadow" isn't the right word but it was in the ballpark. You immediately picked up on what I was referring to so I think I did okay for forgetting the term silhouette.
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>>23503123
>Faggots
getting butthurt over people disliking [thing] is very feminine behavior
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>>23503143
Seems pretty typical male behaviour
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>>23503118
give it some subarms and big fuck off fuel tanks and it's kino
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>>23503146
Go to sleep, Katoki
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What's the best way to carefully strip a matte topcoat from bare plastic? Can unexpectedly ran out so I'm stuck with a half-finished kit and some ugly droplets from when it started sputtering. Also I think some dust got caught in there anyway.
I know the rule of thumb is to just dunk the whole thing in isopropyl alcohol but I'd like to preserve the decals and stickers if possible and there are really only a few spots that look bad, the rest I can probably fix with another layer of topcoat.
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>>23503154
Just spray a new coat
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>>23503154
>>23503156
if it were paint id be worried but since its topcoat on top of decals you can just finish the coating and polish the coat to perfection
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>>23503154
what the other guys said but for future reference isopropyl alcohol, the higher % the better
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>>23503156
>>23503159
Guess this less of a problem than I made it out to be. Although polishing is one thing that I fail to get, even at 1000 grit I keep leaving visible spots when I try to remove the nub marks.
>>23503163
I thought that I'd simply remove the offending spots (and get those specks of dust out in the process) with a alcohol-soaked q-tip or something but had second thoughts about it being that easy.
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>>23503154
lightly moisten a q tip with 70% or lower isopropanol, and lighly buff any bad zones. then do a fresh coat
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>>23503076
I am speaking from experience, because I have made this mistake. Frosted glass files have a very low grit and are comparable to the red handled metal files you can get for very cheap. They produce a rough surface that needs a lot of sanding to smooth out.
Manicure "nanofiles" are also very cheap but they produce a mirror-like surface that needs a bit of sanding to make it less reflective so it matches the rest of the plastic.

It's not marketing bullshit, these two types of files cost about the same, they just have different use cases.
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>>23503084
Full kit is way too fucking much, the base suit is neat though. I like the crucifix gun.
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>>23503174
some do
some don't
there's a variety of grits for the etched glass files.
"nanofiles" are the exact same shit, just etched in dots.
don't think you're an expert because you have a sample size of one.
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>>23503168
Thanks Anon.
One last concern, how does IA affect waterslide decals - as in, how careful do I need to be when cleaning up around them? I've had all of them set with Mark Setter if that helps.
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>>23503166
>1000 grit
get a 200 or so
theres a proper deburring tool it feels like a giant rubber stick
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>>23503180
it shouldn't damage them if they are dry and you use light pressure.
give the touched up areas at least an hour to dry to observe how the topcoat reacts, sometimes you need to buff with a dry cloth to get any frosting out
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>>23503192
Gotcha and many thanks again. It's reassuring to know that it's not a complete disaster I thought this was.
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>>23503176
I had the same thought. Tempted to get it just for the base kit.
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>>23503177
there is a very clear visual difference between the frosted glass files you can get in any drug store versus the ones that you actually want to use for nubs
not like "look real close at the surface" but "literally just look at it, if it's frosted it's the wrong one"
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>>23503084
if the was some color differentiation between the suit, the full armor bullshit and the weapons it would look a lot better imo. as it is all the blue, gold, white and gray just blends into noise.
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>tfw there'll never be a PG Eva 01
Call me a basic bitch but I want it so bad
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>>23503272
Honestly I feel like that's not entirely unlikely. Give it awhile for some big anniversary.
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>>23503272
MENG already made it bro.
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>>23501749
It's weird that stickers are still the norm period. Waterslides not only look better but are much easier to work with, they don't lose adhesion like stickers do if you make a mistake. The worst you can do is tear them.
I guess there's the tool requirement but you functionally need tweezers for stickers anyway, and a toothpick+small dish+hobby knife isn't exactly gonna break the bank.
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Is there anything special to topcoating with an airbrush vs a can? First time doing it with an airbrush.
I'm assuming not? I have only heard that the humidity doesn't matter as much
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>>23503272
???
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>>23503283
more or less the same, airbrush just gives more control
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>>23503272
>>23503276
>>23503278
Are you guys retarded??? There is literally a Bandai 1/60 PG EVA 01
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>>23503294
Anything particular to try outside of getting harder to reach areas?
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>>23503084
I really like what is going on in the top left corner, great design.

But what the actual fuck am I looking at in the top right, what a mess. Bunch of extra crap that is going to increase the overall price.
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>>23503313
You choose what goes on the kit anon. Also it's $60.
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>>23503305
it's topcoat man
just get a smooth layer
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>>23503363
That's a good price. It'll probably end up being more like $100 with shipping for me but still a good price.

I... Think the top right is supposed to be like a deep striker type thing?
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>>23503298
>>23503289
WAIT WHAT THE FUCK
is it good?
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>>23503374
the build process is painful
it involves a rubber sleeve that goes over the inner frame
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>>23503374
It's a PG, they default to good. The original RX-78 one is only overshadowed due to a PGU.
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>>23503374
It looks good but it's actually one of the harder kits to build. Not recommended if you're a beginner or novice.
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>>23503374
It has a bunch of rubber on the inner frame which will turn to sludge over time.
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>>23503387
so just use the anti sludge spray then
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>>23503289
Did Dalong not review this? I can't find it on the site.
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>>23503383
Define beginner
I'm not a snapshitter but I haven't done much in the way of structural modification or scratchbuilding

>>23503380
>>23503387
Is there a solution for that?
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>>23503363
>Also it's $60.
Oh? That's actually not bad at all, Chinks do it again.
Will probbaly get this kit, I do like the design without all the extra crao.
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>>23503374
>evangelion anything
>good
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>>23503393
Yeah, spray the entire thing with multiprimer and then clear coat. Make sure it's thick enough so the rubber doesnt react with the air, which is what causes it to degrade
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I got bored of doing detail work on that hg zz so I'm just going to start my mg mk 2 instead and not go as heavy on the amount of custom lines. Honestly I'm not really fan of painting kits purely as test works because it feels like I'm grinding xp or something. I'm far more motivated when it's something I want to get done and I've been on a zeta kick since rewatching it a few months ago
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>>23503084
I don't know bros. Kinda digging it.

Looks like a MA but from a mecha fantasy setting.
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was able to go into the city today and get the paints for the base colors of my groupbuild idea
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>>23503410
It's cool and the price is crazy for the amount of plastic you're getting but it's also huge and I only have so much space.
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I finished sculpting for my group build, now it's time to put it on sticks and paint
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>>23503390
>>23503387
I think it's natural rubber
only synthetic rubbers with added silicone do that
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>>23503415
>>23503423
i just snapped the first of 3 kits i'm gonna kitbash and I feel so unsure
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>>23503405
>I got bored of doing detail work on that hg zz so I'm just going to start my mg mk 2 instead
That's how it starts. By the end of the year you'll have a proper pile of shame, lad
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>>23503410
It definitely looks like an MA, which is why it doesn't do anything for me. I was never a fan of the MAs where a MS plugs into the front. The base mech itself is great though.
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>>23503454
Seems to be where I'm heading. Shelved this and the rick dijeh kitbash I was doing and those are my first and only 2 DNFs in 2 and a half years of painting
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>>23503039
Uhhh would I be able to tell the difference if I just saw something that said "glass file"
>>23503259
Oh, okay, thank you.
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I'm too heartbroken to work on this hobby anymore, my backlog is a waste of space, my paints, my gundams, my robots..
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>>23503536
KWAB
when I broke up with my gf my first thought was
>sweet more time for Gunpla again
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>>23503508
you want something like these
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008563194804.html
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>>23503279
because stickers are more normie-friendly. it's that simple. bandai caters to the lowest common denominator and children
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bros i am afraid to gloss coat, panel Line, clean, decals then final varnish (matte) because i've never done it before and i dont want to screw up my snapshitter kits
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>>23503542
>$1.76 files
>$47.53 shipping
el oh el
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>>23503553
hgs cost like 20 bux it's not a big deal if you fuck it up
furthermore it's extremely hard to fuck up to the point where it's unsalvagable. panel lines are varnish can be stripped without damaging the plastic
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>>23503559
america moment, the shipping is £3 for me
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>>23503562
yeah i'm thinking about buying a cheap hg to test the process on first, i have a few mgs and large hgs so
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>>23498917

Could someone help me figure out what a model kit I saw is?

It was a mecha musume kit, pretty evenly square box. You could put the girl inside of a red spider-ish mecha kinda like the ones from Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. The girl herself wasn't exactly a Loli but had large thighs and tits, she looked more like a midget than anything.

The design was honestly kind of ugly so I didn't buy it, I just want to find whatever brand it was since I've never seen it.
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Imagine jf Bandai wasnt so gay and they did an mg line for the gbo stuff.
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>>23503584
This one?
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>>23503586
https://streamable.com/881qiw
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>>23502552
I should really finish my LFA, its been sitting for 2 years
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150 images reached new gen when???? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>23503594
Nope, based on the box I think the spider fully closed with the girl in it, and I think it only came in the red color I mentioned.

Also it was around 70 dollars if that narrows it down much
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>>23503615
One moment.
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>>23503559
lol where are you looking? I got a DSPIAE glass file for $10 total plus shipping last week
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>>23503720
I'm not the dude who needed help, I just thought that was funny. I already have all my files and sanding solutions.
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New thread

>>23503718
>>23503718
>>23503718
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>>23503559
they're 0.67eur for me and free shipping

el
mao

>>23503553
pick the one you like the least and use it to test
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>>23503542
>1.65+7.66 shipping
Hm..



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