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>>23687249>Jamitov: Ask of them, and I will provide. In return, I ask of your council."Name me as your successor if you die."--Amuro and Doan guns him down--KARABA SWEEP
>>23687291Doan doesn't have the shooting stat to gun down Jamitov
Anyone else looking forward to Jerid having a meltdown over Kamille of all people coming to help him?
>>23687312Doan's just going to pull out the Ultimate Zaku from the [Bright] campaign and punch Jamitov so hard his soul is destroyed.
>>23687291Jamitov x Beltorchika OTPCuckmuro will ride again.
>>23687332Meanwhile, Scirrocco:>DID HE 5-D CHESS MY PLAN INTO ACTION ALREADY?
>>23687340scirroco starts yabba dabba doo posting when he realizes Kamille is leagues ahead of him in his own department.
He's cooked
Thanks for all the advice last thread everyone. I stopped stardust and recruited my wife Cima; I do have one more question though, how much of a bonus do you get out of personal bonuses? Eg does South or Chap get more performance out of a GM custom vs. A sniper 3 or hm kai?
>>23687342I don't know about that anon. Last thread Scirocco clearly manipulated Kamille (and by extension us) into aiding Jerid. Which will inevitably help his goals whatever they are. He also has a lot of information at his disposal, telling Jerid that Kamille became a Commander, telling Kamille about Jerid is the sole survivor of the Alexandria. So it wouldn't be surprising if the Jovian knew the reason why Beltorchika was sent to Jamitov.
>>23687356But does he even know Beltorchika exist?
>>23687352Depends on their stats and the suits' Limit value.A Sniper 3 is 170% which is higher than a Customs' 165% or a Kai's 135%.South can already reach those numbers by Rank B.But beyond that you'd rather put him on a Gundam or something.
>>23687359Probably. Scirocco seems to have a direct line to Jamitov, so he'd hear about the advisor Kamille sent.
>>23687350I do have to wonder what his play with Beltorchika is. Does he actually want her as an advisor or it just a way to get her guard down? Given he thinks she is a Newtype he may have darker intentions for using her.
>>23687352Its largely irrelevant. You're better off just not worrying about it and putting your aces in good ace suits.
>>23687472Well if Beltorchika was going to be sent to the Newtype labs that would've happened by now. Jamitov probably genuinely wants her opinion on subjects such as the true nature of newtypes and the ascension of humanity into them.
>>23687899I might need to rewatch zeta but something that was never clear to me is when or where does jamitov reveal his secret contolist views?For the longest time to me he was just another nothing villain, like gihren. A classical tyrant that wants power, control and with way less screentime than any of his major, more interesting subjects. I guess puting so much trust in the jovian was a big tell at least.
>>23688126>I might need to rewatch zeta but something that was never clear to me is when or where does jamitov reveal his secret contolist views?it's never revealed or explored in the series.
>>23688179Scirocco brings it up once to Jerid and Mouar. Jamitov himself never acts on it in the TV series and only briefly makes mention of it in the movies.
>>23688126The novelization goes into deeper detail.
>>23688179>>23688246Ah, thanks. Had a feeling it was a novel thing
>>23688354it's both, just the novel remembered Jamitov could get screentime instead of the viewer just being told what he wants in a random conversation.Games like Gihren Greed and SRW 64 does too funny enough
>>23687361>>23687838Thanks, I'll just ignore it for the most part then. Also you guys weren't kidding about the power spike. I also kind of fucked myself because I didn't expect them to take over half the space map as soon as the garden of thorns was overthrown, leading me to not have any units stationed anywhere else lmfao.
>>23688369If you didn't abuse stalling, at this point your best bet for an upgrade is wait for Scirocco to show up and use his tech to save the day.
>>23687356>>23688246Any information about Scirocco's ideology and objectives in the novelization?
>>23688391Nothing to that extent. He’s basically the same.
>>23688391Scirocco is also a form of contolist; his ideology can be summarized as>freedom should be for those who are free to actually thinkHe believes that most people are retarded sheep who needed to be herded by high quality elites, and he sees newtypes as clear distinction between who is a pc and who is an npc. He also believes that women are the perfect arbiter class because even newtype foids are easy for scirocco to manipulate as opposed to men who will, even as muh heckin enlightened newtyperinos challenge eachothers ideas and fight over access to pussy. So basically he wants to make the Imperium of Man utilizing autistic women as priestesses and mascots and himself as the God Emperor.
>>23688406That's just Zanscare and the Kagaties.
>>23688414Yeah. He's a jupinigger what do you expect?
>>23688406I think Scirocco sees himself to be Malcador who will serve the God Empress, to continue with your analogy.
>>23688418I was expecting him to be more serious about it, like >>23688419.
>>23687283[EPISODE 13: SHOOTING FOR THE MOON]>Monsha: Get em' all! First, we crush them here! Then we snap that annoying space cone in half, once and for all! After AEUG is ready to beg for surrender, we finish em' all off!! >Chap: Aren't you getting a bit to worked up here, Monsha ol' pal? >Monsha: Ha~! Only thing worse than a Space Alien are the Bleeding hearts crying for them! When we get to Side 3, its all ours! Wealth, banquets in our honor, and all their women at our pleasure!>GM Sniper III pilot: Lecherous clod...>Monsha: Hey, don't feel left out~! I am sure there are some confused Spaceboys in there who need some "trauma" from a Gorilla like you~! Gyahaha~! >Chap: Monsha->Alpha: Let him have this. If he ends up being put before a Military Tribunal, he can pick up all the heat for it. Wouldn't mind going nuts on a colony or two...Boosting out from a Columbus-transport vessel, two rising ace pilots in the Titans take aim for the the AEUG fleet scattering in front of them.>Ramsus: For once, we actually have the numbers advantage.>Dunkle: Would it make much of a difference? All the AEUG have left in their ranks are the runoff who couldn't cut it in the Federation. Still, every kill is another notch on our belts, right~?
>>23688558The AEUG fleet guarding the junction between Zedan and Side 5 quickly realize the severe difference in their battle strength compared to the Titans mass fleet, causing them to reluctantly evacuate from the sector as they retreat for Zedan.>Monsha: Look at them run! Space Chickens!! We'll turn every last one of you into ground nuggets when we catch you!! Many of the recently recruited Titans surround Monsha's Marasai, firing their GM II's and Hizack's beam rifles into space are they mirror his hateful, murderous desires. >Chap: We should have come in waves. Now the AEUG is just going to be further reinforced at A.Baoa.Qu...>Alpha: Can't really do much about it now. Besides, AEUG can't fight everywhere. If the other fleets move in on old Solomon, A.Baoa.Qu won't be much of a problem for us at all.While the Titans prepare for a decisive attack on both Konpei Island and Zedan, Kamille's forces catch up to Gady's newly constructed Alexandria-class to join their strength together. >Kamille: (Commander Kinsey at least survived as well. If that idiot Jamaican hadn't kept that hopeless pursuit going, some of the others might have at least-)>Kamille/Leila: (Who are you kidding? The rest of them were just losers, not much different from that worm Jamaican. They deserved it...)Looking around the bridge, Kamille punches at a screen from the frustration of once again being invaded by such intrusive thoughts. As Kamille prepares to call out for Leila to question her on the matter, the young Titan Commander is caught off guard in horror at the sight of Gady's deformed features as his face appears on bridges monitor.>Gady: [...Ah, so they sent you?]>Kamille: Commander...y-yes, we understood that your vessel intends to engage AEUG's forces at Side 2. With our combined fleet, we can...w-we can-Unable to focus properly due to Gady's features, Kamille tries to regain his confidence, pushing aside the creeping shame of not preventing his grievous wounds.
>>23688566>Gady: [If it offers you any solace, there is no pain. No...feeling at all. What are your current numbers aboard the-]Sensing an abnormal hostility, Kamille abruptly ends the communication to ready his upgraded Gundam Mark II for launch.>Alexandria Officer: Commander, what is going on?>Kamille: Open the hangar! There is a hostile out there! >Alexandria Officer: We aren't detecting any additional I.F.F signals other than->Kamille: Just open the hangar!!Launching out from his Alexandria, Kamille's immediately feels himself being drawn to a debris field past Gady's Alexandria, with Jerid's Hyaku Shiki emerging from the shoal zone with its beam rifle drawn. Reminded of the machine that had claimed the life of Lila and that had humiliated Jerid at Side 1, Kamille aims his Super Gundam's beam launcher for the Hyaku Shiki, still sensing the immense hostility emanating from the Mobile Suit. >Jerid: You bastard. Did Scirocco put you up to this, or did you come to try and steal my glory?! >Kamille:...Jerid? Your the pilot of that...how? Why are you in->Jerid: That booster pack on the Mark II...so, he even took my trophy from the AEUG and gave it to you, did he?! >Kamille: Jerid, its me! Kamille->Jerid: I know exactly who you are. I never forgot.Still feeling the intense hate radiating from Jerid, Kamille feels himself instinctively preparing to target the Hyaku Shiki, only for Sarah's Byarlant to block both of their machines from aiming at one another.>Sarah: Master Paptimus would not want you both acting like this! >Jerid: You think I give a damn what he wants? If you came here to pull rank on me Kamille, I won't accept it! >Kamille: Jerid, I didn't come here for that! Your forces won't be enough to engage the AEUG's fleets at Side 2! I've improved since->Jerid: We don't need you. We don't want you. Pick off the scraps I leave behind, but don't get in my way, unless you want to end up like how Jamaican did. >Kamille: Jerid...!
>>23688566>>23688611Kamille feels so guilty for how Jerid and Gady suffered when he wasn't there. Genuinely so, Kamille's acting completely different from how prideful he was on Earth last.Let's see if Kamille can get past his guilt, Jerid his rage, and if the two can work together once again.
>>23688611Consider that both of you together could kill way more AEUG scum! Think, Jerid, think!
>>23688611Despite the lingering, complicated emotions between Kamille and Jerid, Gady arranges for a meeting aboard Kamille's Alexandria to organize the assault on the AEUG's fleets stationed at Side 2. >Gady: [Reconnaissance has determined their numbers to be nearly sixty Mobile Suits strong, possibly more. Originally I planned for the Lieutenant and the other pilots to launch multiple separate hit-and-run attacks to draw their forces away from their main fleet, but with a second vessel, we could split them more effectively.]>Jerid: Did I not make it clear enough that we don't need to resort to that? Our force alone is more than strong enough to push straight through whatever the AEUG has stationed. The AEUG could run if we don't crush them all at once.>Gady:[I have no intentions of allowing any of them to leave Side 2 alive, Lieutenant. Commander Bidan, I request that your forces flank the AEUG's forces, cutting them off from escaping.]>Kamille: If we do that, your ship would be left completely open if something went wrong. Even if the AEUG were to run, taking these Colonies would be more than enough to weaken their->Jerid: So, did Scirocco give you those women as well? Haha...what is this? Some kind of competition to him? What did you mean "if something went wrong", huh?! >Leila: You are seriously annoying, you know that? Obviously Kamille is aware that you people just can't compare to Kamille. Even I could easily overpower someone like you->Jerid: Unless you want me to shut your wind-up cheerleader up, do it yourself, Kamille. >Leila: Face it, loser. The only reason Kamille hasn't taken control of your little operation is because he pity's you->Kamille: Go out in the hallway.>Leila: Kamille->Kamille: Get out there! Now, Leila! Leila releases an annoyed huff as she floats towards the doorway to leave, cocking her head back to mockingly stick her tongue out at Jerid.>Jerid:...Leila, huh? Is that her name?>Kamille: Yeah, it...wait, Jerid-
>>23688653>wait Jerid-Uh oh
Yeah I'm already over dealing with this invalid.
>>23688659If you're over Jerid right now then you should have been over Kamille when he was like this too
>>23688657Lila~Leila>>23688659>Kamille: Get out of this thread Leila, Now!
>>23688667Yeah Jerid totally misheard what her name was due to that and this is going to get slightly ugly perhaps, oh boy.Also lol, fucking lelia is among us.
>>23688653>>Jerid:...Leila, huh? Is that her name?>>Kamille: Yeah, it...wait, Jerid-Holy shit. I genuinely hope Copy X had as much fun writing this as I had reading it. This is some of the greatest dialogue to ever grace these threads.
>>23688653>Jerid: Real nice. Where did you pick that runt up from, huh? You've got her real well trained at barking on command->Kamille: Back off it.>Jerid: Or what? You'll flaunt that new rank Jamitov gave you? >Kamille: No, i'll just kick your ass. >Sarah: Why are you both acting like this? These childish antics are only wasting time we could be using to prepare for-Four places her hands onto Sarah's shoulders, gently squeezing them as she quietly urges her to remain silent.>Sarah: What are you->Four: As someone who worked to build their strength, you should understand that both of them desire to fight one another. Only after both of them have fought with everything they are keeping pent up can they truly be honest with one another. >Sydle: That is idiotic. We were assigned here to receive combat experience with the Lieutenant, not to actively watch him waste precious military resources and our time on her own personal-Four places her hand against Sydles chest, giving it a quick squeeze.>Four: You could do with becoming stronger.>Sydle: E-eh?! H-how dare you touch me like that?! The tension between Kamille and Jerid is broken momentarily by Four's antics, leaving both of them to stare one another down.>Jerid: I am not deviating from my plan. >Gady: [Would you make the same mistakes as before, Jerid?]>Jerid: Report me to whoever you want. It won't matter when Granada is destroyed, and the AEUG is crushed by my hand!>Which attack strategy will Kamille accept for attacking Side 2?https://strawpoll.com/XmZRQbwbmgd
>>23688683my inner strategist wants to vote any practical optionmy inner Kamille wants to brawl with Jerid
>>23688683I'm voting to punch Jerid. I'm curious if Four's advice would actually work here. Getting a friendly Jerid is worth any delays.
>>23688683I'm thinking follow Jerid's plan or Gady's plan are the only good options here. As both would increase influence with the respective character. Either plan also gives us a reasonable chance at success. >>23688684Me to anon me too. But lets save Kamille punching Jerid for when he really deserves it. Like if Jerid fucks up the operation or nearly gets someone killed.
>>23688683I like how simple the description for option 5 is.>[Punch Jerid]: (Attack on side 2 will be delayed)
>>23688685I wonder if it's a case of >Punch Jerid(Affectionately)or >Punch Jerid(GLASS HIM!)
>>23688683>[Follow Jerid's plan]This will result in us being encircled I'd bet. Our aces would survive maybe, but I don't like it. Maybe some Jerid influence, maybe not. Maybe lose some Gady influence, maybe not. >[Follow Gady's plan]This is better but still a bit risky. However, it'll probably gain us a bit of influence and not lose Jerid influence. I voted for it. >[Follow own plan-defensive formation]"Leave Jerid out to dry" ; minus influence>[Follow own plan-do not deploy immediately]Minus influence with everyone, try to get Jerid killed. Please don't vote for this. >[Punch Jerid]Lol, lets not. Doing this now would just drop influence with Gady for a dice roll on if Jerid is less of a cock.
>>23688694I voted for Gady's plan too. I'd like to kill some AEUG first before we start beefing with Jerid. Punching Jerid would be fun, but I don't want to come back to this vote or be forced to fight in a bad way after it's resolved. As that'll probably be what happens after Kamille and Jerid brawl and have to rush to make up for lost time.
>>23688683Punch him and air things out now.>>23688699This is a time bomb tha sat since Lila's death. The longer this continues, the worse the explosion. We really don't want Jerid and Kamille questioning each other during an operation. Let's not have it explode during the battlefield and sort this out like men.
>>23688683Gady's plan is pretty sound, I'm leaning towards working with it. Jerid's plan could work too, but we could either let some AEUG scum escape our wrath or they could encircle us and make things harder for us. Letting Jerid flush them out and then double teaming them to oblivion sounds good to me. If all goes well, he'll recognize that Kamille isn't all bark and no bite and might begrudgingly listen a little more to us in the future. Then again, he's also goddamn Jerid so he could also very well just get enraged by Kamille showing him up, so it could go either way.I'm also willing to deck Jerid to get everything out of both of their systems, but not right now. I'm saving that for when he does something REALLY stupid that deserves getting punched, which I'm certain is bound to happen rather soonish if Jerid keeps acting like THE BOAR.
I want to follow Jerid for influence even though I know tactically it's the bad option, but now thinking on it I want Punch to win. Hopefully the bonds of combat lets us understand one another.
>>23688683Believe in Four. Smack him.
>>23688653Makes me wonder just how much of what Leila is saying is true. If she is all of Kamilles negative emotions encompassed and she is also mind reading him there is a good chance he is looking down on Jerid subconsciously.(Also is Leila supposed to be based on a Symbiote from Spider-Man? She has a fanatically close relationship with her host and seems to get stronger when Kamille is more negative. A parasite that needs him to grow stronger for her own gain)
>>23688703Having Kamille punch Jerid now though is just a bad idea. It's Kamille arriving out of the blue after abandoning Jerid then punching him. Sure Jerid deserves it but neither him or Kamille have seen how the other has grown yet. Let's at least have them fight one battle together before clobbering eachother. Kamille can see the tenacity and strength Jerid has obtained, while Jerid gets to see how Kamille has matured into becoming a leader.
>>23688712Well maybe the movie version, comic ones don’t really change your personality but they do adapt to whatever their host wants
>>23688683Four just might be onto something with us needing to fight it out with Jerid before either of us can really understand the other, but I still voted for Gady's plan. We can work on Jerid after proving we aren't just Jamitov's nepo-babies, we really do have some talent.
>>23688683As bad as it seems and the delay it'll cause, they absolutely need to have it out. It'll negatively impact Kamille (and possibly Jerid too on the influence front) but like >>23688703 said, this has been boiling since Lila died. They parted on bad terms and Kamille got fast-tracked to command through favoritism (and didn't have amazing results till New Yark) while Jerid ran a successful guerilla campaign that failed due to sabotage by the very man who favored Kamille, costing him his best friend, the Alexandria crew and Ayers City. There's just too much bad blood between them for either to seriously observe the other in battle and neither has the full story of the other's experiences. They NEED to brawl and lay it all out on the table.
>>23688712That's not how the symbiote works and "people" like you are why we keep getting shit adaptations of it. It adopts the characteristics of its host, so if you feed it garbage in, it gives you garbage out. Peter's life is going to shit and he starts obsessively leaning into being Spider-Man more to cope, because Spider-Man started as a way to cope with his grief and guilt? The suit starts becoming just as obsessed with being Spider-Man and starts taking his body out night while he sleeps to fight bad guys. Him getting angy and corrupted was an invention of the cartoon.After getting torn off and falling off the clock tower (which, for context, would be like if someone beat his wife and then she fell down the stairs from its perspective) it fell onto Eddie Brock, who was both suicidally and possessed an immense, irrational hatred of Spider-Man because Spider-Man exposed him as a fraud ruining his reputation as a journalist, costing him his job at the globe, and culminating in him getting dumped by a bad habit by his girl who got the ick from his slimy business practices.Hatred in, hatred out, and that created a feedback loop in Venom. It's also why Venom chilled out significantly after Eddie started taking his schizo meds and found a new gf.
Color me surprised, looks like we're talking with our fists later. Hope the boys can behave >>23689321Lol calm down
>>23688683>Gady winsBoring but practicalJerid likely won't respect us even if our plan works perfectly. In the worst case scenario Gady will die but I do think we have a good chance to succeed.Gotta set things straight with Jerid pretty soon.
>>23688683Seeing the reasoning in Gady's stratetgy to maximized the elimination of AEUG's stationed forces at the Colonies of Side 2, Kamille chooses to accept his plan to flank behind the enemy fleets. >Jerid: Be content with the scraps then. >Kamille: Don't get yourself killed pointlessly...or those other two->Jerid: If they can't keep up, that is their own problem. No matter what, the ones who killed Lila are going to die.>Kamille: If you actually wanted that, you would have seen by now we share the same goal->Jerid: Save it. You may have impressed Jamitov by cleaning up the trash infesting Earth, but I intent to fight a real war, my own way.[Influence with Jerid has decreased -1/5] [Influence with Gady has increased 1/5][Influence with Sydle has increased 1/5]Meanwhile at Gryps 2, Titan Engineers look over their recently reverse engineered and designed "MSA-003" Nemo's. While their generators are slightly weaker than that of the Marasai and they have reduced armor in surviving direct impacts from beam weapons, the Engineering division find their cost effectiveness compared to the Marasai to be highly impressive, with them realizing how the AEUG has been able to make the gains they have been able to with their supposed lack of resources. Confident that with the Nemo's mass production that they will be able to turn the tide of the war with the AEUG, the Engineering Corps petition for construction of the standard Hizack to be halted in favor of the Nemo-series.[Nemo is now being produced by the Titans]
>>23689359YUP, SHOULD'VE FOUGHT
>>23689359I wonder if mass producing the Nemo will result in us getting its variants down the line as a way of showing just how wrong this timeline is.
>>23689359Maintaining Gady's plan, Kamille Alexandria moves through the northern quadrant of Side 2 airspace, while Jerid, Sydle and Sarah charge out to attack the AEUG's approaching fleet from the Colonies. Unexpectedly however, the AEUG launch the majority of their forces to intercept Jerid's squadron, leaving the core defenses almost completely naked in the process. >Sydle: S-so many of them->Jerid: You want to survive?! Then fight! >Sarah: Sydle, don't panic out there. If Jerid is shot down, Commander Kinsey will surely return to Master Paptimus to serve under him directly. We just need to survive until then.>Sydle: Y-yes...>Sarah: (Is this to show me just how simple minded most of the men of the Titans are, Master Paptimus? Why even allow him to survive this long if he is just going to throw away your favor so easily?)Launching out from his Alexandria, Kamille and Leila's Mobile Suits prepare for the flank operation, while Four taps her foot anxiously from not having a Mobile Suit to deploy in. Having loosely picked up on some of Kamille's methods of Commanding, Four makes her way to the bridge of the Alexandria, awkwardly, yet confidently trying to mirror some of Kamille's usual commands.[Four has taken Command of the Alexandria]
>>23689373>Gady: [Lieutenant, the AEUG will surround you if you go out any further! Join with the Byarlant teams to-]>Jerid: I have it under control! Even with all of those numbers, they are pointless if they can't hit me!Jerid finds himself completely swarmed by AEUG's forces, though a bulk of AEUG Mobile Suits pushes past his position to open fire on Gady's Alexandria. Breaking off from trying to support Jerid's attack, Sydle and Sarah begin to pursue multiple AEUG fighter craft and Mobile Suits, though they are unable to stop a squadron of GM II's from reaching his Alexandria. >Sydle: These are nothing, so why can't we stop them?! >Sarah: Commander Kinsey, retreat! Finally reaching an optimal position to attack the AEUG from their rear line, Kamille's forces begin to push against them from behind.
>>23689378>AEUG pilot 1: Are they stealing our Mobile Suits now?! >AEUG pilot 2: Even if they did nab one of those new machines, we have the numbers advantage here! This guy can't dodge forever!Slashing away multiple incoming beams, Jerid spins his Hyaku Shiki behind a Rick Dias, ripping its head away and firing a beam through its reactor to give him distance from the encirclement. Crushing the torn Rick Dias's cockpit pod in front of the AEUG's pursuing forces, Jerid licks his lips as he feels himself being guided by numerous voices flowing through his mind. >Kackricon?: (You've gone way beyond just being an ace. You could beat the gold one. You could beat the one that took me out. Even that Spacenoid twit who stole your Mark II can't compare any more.)>Jerid: (I can get stronger. So much stronger that nobody can ever challenge me again...and then, i'll take the Titans for myself!)>Lila?: (You were always superior to Kamille. You were always the best-)A bazooka round impacts the Hyaku Shiki's shoulder, damaging its arm as a surviving Rick Dias fires wildly on his position.>Jerid: (I am...! I am...unstoppable!!)>Lila: (Stop being a fool! You haven't survived this long on your own, Jerid!)Jerid temporarily snaps out of his psychosis at the different tone in Lila's voice, with it retaining the harsh, yet informative tone she had in life. Stabbing the Rick Dias through its head, Jerid continues to dodge the maelstrom of shells and beams around him. Meanwhile, Kamille chooses to attack earlier than the original plan, with Gady's Alexandria now being heavily damaged from its lack of defense. >Kamille: Leila, move ahead and get the AEUG off of Jerid! I'll cover you! You two, from Jerids team, pull back and protect the Commanders ship!
>>23689350That's not an argument
>>23689397Taking up a firing position, Kamille begins to open fire on the AEUG's Mobile Suit formations, shooting them down one after another with immense firepower of his beam launcher. >AEUG pilot 1: W-what?! It tore right through his shield!>AEUG pilot 2: Scatter! Don't let it get a target lock on-The Nemo is annihilated in a single shot, with its escorting comrades also being destroyed within seconds. >AEUG pilot 3: T-that suit...its the Black Devil!! The one that obliterated Karaba and the others on Earth!! Oh, shit! >AEUG pilot 4: Charge at it! There is no way he can use that beam cannon up close!While Leila complies with Kamille's order to support Jerid, she focuses primarily on slaughtering the AEUG's forces rather than drawing the existing attack units away from Jerid. While she initially revels in the idea of him being shot down, ending his feud with Kamille, she feels a strange kinsmanship with the Lieutenants brutal methods of fighting, along with feeling a reflection of part of Kamille's deepest emotions within the man. >Gady: [Intensify forward firepower! Drive away those approaching Mobile Suits!]>Alexandria Officer: We can't! Anti-air guns have been severely damaged! >Gady: (Did I underestimate the AEUG's resolve? They matched Jerid's foolish advance with their own...Bidan, make sure none of those AEUG animals survive. For the survival of the Earth-)A GM II boosts towards the bridge of Gady's Alexandria, firing multiple vulcan rounds into it.
>>23689415>Four: Disperse Minovsky Particles! >Alexandria staff 1: Ma'am, we have already done it multiple times! Even basic radar functionality will be cut off if we go any further! Targeting systems are already barely functional->Four: Why does Kamille tell you to disperse it all the time then?>Alexandria staff 1:...Wait, you don't even know what they do? Then why the hell were you telling us to->Alexandria staff 2: No, she understands. We can't fire effectively on the AEUG, but they are steering away from getting caught in the dense interference fields. Probably the only reason we have not been focused on yet. >Four: Sounds right to me~. Cut off from retreating, AEUG's forces are finally put in a position to be hunted down, with retreat no longer being a viable option. The only remaining vessel of the AEUG's still at the center of Side 2's Capitol colony begins to fall back, aware of the battle shifting away from their forces.While the AEUG's faith in this doomed battle falters, Fa Yuiry is escorted onto a lifeboat by Titan soldiers. Departing from the ruined Alexandria, Fa shakes in confusion at once again being placed into a life-or-death situation against her will. Onboard the Alexandria's bridge, Gady's ruined body is trapped beneath his command seat, with him using any remaining strength he has to authorize a full evacuation of the vessel. >Gady: [Destroy...the AEUG...destroy...all of the Spacenoids who...allowed for this...][Gady has died of his wounds]
>>23689427Jerid's Selfish one man army fantasy got Gady killed. We're running out of captains really fast.
>>23689427Gady didn't deserve this at all (though it was his plan that led to his demise)
>>23689359>>23689427Okay, NOW we punch Jerid.
>>23689430It really didn't this time. The AEUG were just as bullheaded as Jerid and diverted all their forces at Gady and co. It's insane to say that going with Jerid's plan or delaying the operation to fight it out would've led to a favorable assault as they'd at least be together.
>>23689427Nooooo Gady!!! He literally got too show up for 2 minutes and died! The games fucking us over again. >>23689431If Jerid stuck to the plan this wouldn't have happened. He needs his ass beat for this.
>>23689440The plan was for Jerid's group to lure out the AEUG while Kamille's flanked them. That's exactly what happened. What wasn't expected was that a large chunk of them would just push past not just Jerid but Sydle and Sarah as well to chop up Gady. The plan was followed (in his own bullheaded way) but given that there's only three suits, there was no way for them to cover everything successfully against those numbers.He still needs a beating though.
>>23689427RIP Necron Gady
>>23689427>Didn't achieve TOTAL AEUG DEATH in this battle, only ALMOST TOTAL AEUG DEATH>Gady diedAt least everyone else survived, but man...
>>23689427Kamille should use this opportunity to seize... I mean free Fa from Jerid.
>>23689427We have to get Four a Nemo. PRONTO.
>>23689442Jerid over extended though and got himself completely surrounded by the enemy. So he couldn't pull back and support Gady when he needed it most. Jerid got another person close to him killed. Jerid's in a hell of his own making now though. Kamille is the highest ranking officer in the area now, meaning he's in control of what actions are taken moving forward.
>>23689471This is one of those moments where the AI will continue to AI. There's times where they'll just take Amuro out of a doomstack or otherwise seperate them from the rest leaving them easy pickings. I'm not surprised it happened this way but it really is sad.It is a hell of his own making but I still want to try and bury the hatchet, difficult as it is at this point. Gady's death might be the final straw that knocks some sense back into him (plus the real Lila finally got through to him after all this time). That said...>While Leila complies with Kamille's order to support Jerid, she focuses primarily on slaughtering the AEUG's forces rather than drawing the existing attack units away from Jerid. While she initially revels in the idea of him being shot down, ending his feud with Kamille, she feels a strange kinsmanship with the Lieutenants brutal methods of fighting, along with feeling a reflection of part of Kamille's deepest emotions within the man.For the love of God keep Leila away from him, for everyone's sake.
>>23689476This battle has to be karmic payment for how easy taking California Base was and destroying the HLVs. Just because we succeeded there doesn't mean we'd succeed easily here too. As for the Leila thing I wouldn't worry to much about it. Jerid's reminding her of Kamille and his deepest emotions. It's showing that Jerid and Kamille do have a kinship of sorts.
>>23689496Pretty much. We've gotten extremely lucky considering that, outside of Kamille's direct command, everything else operates via the game's questionable AI (I think we're still on that?). California Base (And New Yark too) had us with a more filled out unit but now that we're back in space, we're down to just Kamille, Leila and Captain (temp) Four again. Sydle, Sarah and possibly Jerid and Fa as well now though I doubt Jerid will willingly subject himself to Kamille's command.I think going forward, it'd be great to have an idea of what units and how many are directly part of Kamille's squadron as well as those he's working with before committing to a plan.
>>23689427While the battle for control over Side 2 rages on, the Titans initiate a full-scale offensive against the occupied Konpei Island space fortress. Comprised of nearly half of its remaining space forces, the invasion of the fortress is passed onto Captain Yazan Gable to command the assault.>Yazan: None of you greenhorns were there when we first took this place, so listen well! You see a rock that looks off to you? Shoot it. You break inside and there is a corner that you don't trust? Shoot it. You get these AEUG mice cornered? Ooh, you had better keep shooting until they aren't moving any longer. We got them outnumbered, but these rats know how to sharpen their teeth when they are surrounded, so show no mercy! They wouldn't offer you any, and those who would are the same kinds of milk drinking pansies who don't live to see a second battle! >Titan recruit 1: I heard this guy has taken out over a hundred Mobile Suits year alone...>Titan recruit 2: Guy seems like the real deal...kind of nuts looking though->Adol: Captain Gable, sir! These new recruits have never experienced proper combat before! Would you consider allowing them to serve at the rearguard rather than-Yazan steps in front of the young Titan Officer, grasping his his manhood tightly.>Yazan: How can you expect them to be ready for a battle if you aren't even excited in the slightest, Sergent?! Get that blood pumping and get that weakness out of your system before the battle!>Adol: Ah...?! >Yazan: In a battle, it is kill or be killed! On the battlefield, you are at the apex of what it means to be alive! Show no fear, show no weakness, show only your zeal and the pride of being warriors! Cut every single enemy before you down! Releasing Adol's testicles from his grip, Yazan pushes the Sergent towards his Hizack, readying the other soldiers for the bloody conquest of Konpei Island.
>>23689579>Mezun: Why did you recall me?! The Titans could be attacking that space fortress while I am stuck here->Anaheim employee: You were selected for a very special assignment. One we believe that if you are able to accomplish, will secure the end to the terrible conflict. Other test pilots have unfortunately been unable to unlock this machines full potential, but we have hopes that you may be just the man we need to accomplish such a task.>Mezun: The Delta has worked for me just fine. Give me a month, and i'll have an entire elite squadron all capable of utilizing one of their own.>Anaheim employee: You will find this new machine to be to your liking then, considering how well you have performed with the Delta. >Bearded-man: So, this must be the young man who reclaimed Solomon from the Titans. Floating out from ahead of the development hangar, a dark-bearded man moves to grasp Mezun's hand, giving it a firm shake.>Mezun: Mezun Mex...Commander. >Gray Wolf: You can call me Gray Wolf.>Mezun: Codename, huh? Can't give me your actual name?>Anaheim Employee: Mister Mex->Gray Wolf: It may as well be my actual name by this point. From what I understand, you may be the piece missing to completing this new machine. With any luck, we can have these Mobile Suits mass produced by months end.Stepping into the hangar, Mezun appears enchanted by the unpainted Mobile Suit before him.>Mezun: Amazing...given the frame, it can transform, can't it?>Gray Wolf: Good eye on you. It sure can transform, just like that Delta Gundam of yours.>Anaheim Employee: As of this moment, you have been selected for the testing of the future of the AEUG's war strategy. We are calling it...
>>23689592>Anaheim Employee: Zeta Gundam.As multiple investors observe the development of the Zeta Gundam from afar, a sharp-eyed, well dressed figure taps a device hidden on his wrist, with him snapping multiple pictures of the Zeta Gundam.>Anaheim investor: (Come on now, show it off. Get that device running. Lets see just what this "Biosensor" is capable of.)
>>23689595Now, has someone been extremely naughty providing our Zeta to Anaheim?
>>23689595THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!THIS IS NOT RIGHT, THAT WAS OURS! WE BUILT IT, DAMMIT!
>>23689597The only one that could've done it is Scirocco. Since Kamille gave him the data many threads ago. This also must've been what Bright was talking about when he said Scirocco was supporting both the Titans and AEUG. Whatever the reason I imagine there's gonna be an opportunity to steal the Zeta and put it in Kamille's rightful hands.
>>23689608Well, let's see if Kamille can fulfill the executives wishes and gt the Biosensor running like Four and the Psycho Gundam.
>>23689595Damn it that's our fucking suit. So, with that we know that all those leaks we've been getting are probably payment for that schematic.
So from what i hear the enemy ai only puts aces in canon suits. Even if they have perfectly fine oneoff suits to put aces in they just wont. Is there no workaround?
>>23689373>Having loosely picked up on some of Kamille's methods of Commanding, Four makes her way to the bridge of the Alexandria, awkwardly, yet confidently trying to mirror some of Kamille's usual commands.Cute! Cute!
>>23689616>Is there no workaround?That's what copy does by implementing a 2player mode kind of thing where he manually places. It can only go so far tho since ai will still be dumb & gift incidents like true nu
>>23689579>vibe checked his ballsYazan...
>>23689616No, not necessarily. I’ve seen Bright in a Core Booster several times these past few days in several campaigns.
Until further notice, friendship with Scirocco is over.
>>23689697Just wait a second. I'm sure Scirocco has a good explanation, and since Kamille and Jerid are on the lunar front we might be able to go on a mission and steal it. I'm sure it'll work out.
>>23689616My hands on experience with the game (nowhere near as modded as what Copy X does just as a disclaimer) is that the AI will put an enemy ace in whatever the best unit it has on hand is at the time in first come first serve order. For example, I fought Delaz in new SHITel neue ziel while Gato was in gelgoog jager, this having been after previously I raped gato in his neue ziel with a swarm of GM Powered's and Yu Kajima in his BD-3. I could be wrong about the first come first serve thing but it's been a phenomenon I've observed repeatedly.
>>23689704They prioritize their canon units unless they're so depleted they can't do it at all.On an unrelated note, I didn't realize that keeping Titans Emma not only locks you out of the Marasai but out of the MK II as well. Which is insane considering that you can still get Franklin after clearing the route once. I think it locks me out of the Barzam too if I'm remembering a past run correctly (and if it wasn't a bug)
>>23689713Really? Jesus, I might be fucked this run
>>23689713[You can actually keep Emma and get the Mark II if just don't send the test pilots for the Mark II or let the 10 turns after Franklin submits the plan run out. You can then pay to develop the Gundam Mark II]
>>23689718This is great info, thanks Copy X.
>>23689718Oh dang that's the way to go huh. Titans Emma is neat enough to go for but I've done that more often than Lila so II might just load up the earlier save and pick up Lila and Chang instead. I don't even think she's particularly amazing considering Lila at least nets you the Marasai.
>>23689595Mezun is the true Grey AEUG
>>23689595>>23689597>>23689613>>23689603100% that zeta is gonna be heavily flawed
>>23689595>Sarah: Commander Kinsey!! Taking aim for the GM II's still firing on the lifeboats departing from the Alexandria's collapsing hull, Kamille fires on each Mobile Suit, perfectly targeting their cockpits even through the miasma of intensely packed Minovsky Particles. >Kamille: Jerid, you damn fool! If you had just pulled back, all of them would still be alive! Alerted to their comrades immense losses, an additional fleet of AEUG vessels and Mobile Suits arrive from the junction between Sides 2 and 5. While Monsha's forces ready for a full-fledged reoccupation of the Gate of Zedan, an AEUG surprise attack quickly secures their control back over Side 5's Colonies. [Side 5 has been recaptured by the AEUG]
>>23689760Japanese wiki suggests getting Lila or Buran and Ben is better than keeping Emma.
>>23689778Fuck
>>23689778Attack now, surely we will impress Jerid with our competence, Surely we'll capture Side 2 before we swing by to the other sides.Come on, really? At least we weren't crazy enough to go for cut supply line or we'd be caught between a hammer and anvil.
>>23689793I was.All well that ends well, too bad about Gady
>>23689778My goodness. We have done so much to passively help out the Titans' war effort - blocking AEUG's supply run, more or less closing the Earth front, debuffing AEUG's morale army-wide, providing the Nemo as a competent mass production suit - and they are still losing ground in space consistently.Just where are the majority of Titans forces? Have they not taken off from Earth yet or something? Our defences in space seem threadbare.
>>23689778>>23689793Our options here will probably be to retreat or hole up at a supply point and enter a battle of attrition of attrition. With the AEUG mooks crashing against the wall that'll be our named characters. Either way Jerid will be pissed, but honestly fuck him.
>side with jerid at the start, he jobs and gets our space mom killed>anons bitch in moan when we leave his bum ass to actually get shit done>jerid continues to job in space>go to space after winning the earth front>anons vote to spend time with jerid>jerid jobs and gets his captain killedJerid is and always will be a no dimes jobber
>>23689830in this case Gady is the one who jobbed, his own plan got him killed
>>23689778Damaged and relying almost completely on his insticts to dodge the AEUG's relentless attacks, Jerid is nearly shot down by a squadron of damaged Nemo's, only to be given a brief respite from Leila and her custom Gundam. >Leila: Keep going. Even with that damage, I can tell you still have a lot more anger to get out of your system. These AEUG people deserve all of it.>Jerid: Kiss my ass. Go crawl back to Kamille if you are looking for->Leila: I misunderstood what you were before. It confused me before, but I can feel an echo from you. The same echo I hear when Kamille and I are one and the same... >Jerid: Are you on something? Where did he trudge up a freak like you? Leila fires a beam past Jerid's Hyaku Shiki, with a damaged Nemo exploding behind the vengeful Lieutenant. >Leila: All of us want the same thing, Jerid. Unlike Kamille though, I think you and I are not as confused about what needs to be done to see that dream come true. The death of others used to scare me. With Kamille, it confuses me. With you? It is intoxicating. >Jerid: W-what the hell are you playing at? If you are trying to get me to follow that arrogant bastard, I won't->Leila: You could be his reflection. Equal, but his inversion...only if you allow me to feel that passion he keeps at bay.[Jerid has temporarily chosen to follow Leila's lead]
>>23689830Jerid's our jobber though and being with him is our version of Argama mode. And a lot of people were upset we had Kamille leave the Alexandria for Earth.
>>23689830>what if we just leave Jerid alone?>not only gets Gady killed, Fa, Sarah and Sydle dies as well>Scirrcco gets pissed and defects to AEUGShould have beat his jobber ass up, so he can feel some consequences, would have delayed long enough to get Four a Nemo or Bylant, but no.
>>23689836Oh shit boys, Lelia is befriending Jerid, we can recover our relationship with him yet!
>>23689833>Gady: [Lieutenant, the AEUG will surround you if you go out any further! Join with the Byarlant teams to-]Yeah, it was Gady's fault to assume that Jerid is not an emotional fuckup.Jerid, you gotta learn that YOU ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE A FUCKUP.
>>23689846It was also Gady's fault to assume AEUG would run, the plan was a flop, ironically Jerid's plan would have worked with a full frontal assault
>>23689855>AEUG but they're all retarded blue cosmos tier terroristsJust fuck my shit up
>>23689844Now it's both lila AND leila (maybe scirocco too) pulling the strings so kamille and jerid cooperate, hope for the best, I personally won't hold my breath
>>23689836>we got Gady killed and Leila potentially cucking Kamille in the span of one vote
>>23689855>Even we keep sabotaging JeridThe more things change...
>>23689870>Fa cucks Kamille>Leila cucks Kamille>Kamille is going to hold the bag for Gady's death>Scirocco also cucks Kamille by giving the AEUG his Zeta designJeridCHADS stay winning
>>23689874>>23689870Kamille has basically(in her eyes) been cucking Leila with Four, but I wonder if Leila actually can convince Jerid to play 'bad cop' to Kamille's 'good cop'
>>23689876in all seriousness, if Leila cucks Kamille for real I wouldn't care. Kamille's relationship with her was never founded in truth in the first place for either of them so the only places it could go would be mutual toxic co-dependence or them breaking up, with the latter becoming increasingly more likely once Four was introduced.that said I'm more interested in Fa and Jerid interactions. It was interesting that they spent so much time together this run and that Jerid gave enough of a shit to save her instead of just throwing her away when he was done using her.
>>23689836https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KG2O5PSCSsTime for Jerid Clapton to pick the guitar and sing LEILA!!!!>someone more talented can make a competent edit.
>>23689836>AEUG Pilot 1: H-how are we losing like this?! It was just two ships!! >AEUG Pilot 2: Twice now, our ideals are cast down by devils. First the white one, now this black one...what have we done to deserve them as enemies? If they are Newtype, why aren't they fighting at our sides? At the sides of those who follow the will of Zeon Deikun?! Clearing away the last of the AEUG's forces surrounding his vessel, Kamille moves to support Jerid and Leila, only to find both landing aboard his Alexandria for supplies. >Kamille: Leila, what happened out there? Something...felt off for a just a moment->Leila: The Lieutenant understands what is needed for us to win here, Kamille~. >Kamille: Don't antagonize him. That is the last thing we need right now->Leila: You really should stop lying to yourself. If you did, all of us would so much happier.Cutting her communication before Kamille can respond, Leila quickly has her Gundam resupplied, with Jerid receiving whatever supplies that can be used with his Hyaku Shiki in that moment. >Leila: (There is still time for you to prove yourself. Slaughter the AEUG without hesitation Every single one of them.)>Jerid: Did you put something on me?! Why can I hear->Leila: (Only together, can you both achieve your ambitions. Let us guide one another, Jerid...)
>>23689943>Leila is working towards some weird newtype threesome bond thingI don't like where this is going
>>23689948Lalah/Amuro/CharLeila/Kamille/JeridRemember to spay and neuter your Newtype women before they start trying to form hiveminds between two men.
>>23689948She's gonna try that on anyone going through a tough time, the only reason why she couldn't do it to Four is because her waku waku gives her strong willpower
>>23689948You though she was going to stop at conniving behind kamille's back?If anything she's acting on kamille's desire to make up with jerid, albeit in a invasive, manipulative way
>>23689943I hope we get the ability to sever our bond with her very soon, I just don't really like her.
>>23689943I hope we get the ability to vent Jerid out of the airlock very soon, I just don't really like him.
>>23689943Unable to properly communicate with Jerid, Sarah and Sydle move to support Kamille with their Byarlants, pushing back any stragglers from the AEUG attempting to breach his firing position. >Kamille: They are just throwing themselves at us like this! Ejecting the rear pack now! The Mark II can handle it without the extra firepower!>Four: Right! Fire out the...uh...>Bridge Officer 1: Ready the tow cables to reel the secondary equipment in!>Four: Tow cables, that is it! Thank you~! >Bridge Officer 1: Uh...anytime, ma'am. >Namicar: Four, what are you doing in here?! Can't you see they are trying to do their jobs?!>Bridge Officer 2: Relax, librarian. She's doing just done just here.AEUG's following assault is cut down within minutes, with their forces suffering a loss of over twenty Mobile Suits before they are able to realize their situation.>AEUG Captain: This is insane! Contact Granada! We can't fight them like this! Retreat! Retreat!! Side 2's remaining defense forces begin their retreat, no longer holding any belief in achieving victory, even with their superior numbers. >Kamille: (If Jerid hadn't moved out ahead, his might have survived. He is still the same overly headstrong moron he was before-)Kamille notices multiple hostile I.F.F signals vanishing one after another. Emerging from the site of the destruction, Layla's Gundam and Jerid's Hyaku Shiki both float aimlessly amongst the wreckage.>Kamille: Are you both alright?! There is some damage on->Leila: Look, Kamille. The Moon...it is right in front of us now. >Jerid:...The one who killed Lila will be there. I->Leila: "We", can finally end this. As the hand of Leila's Gundam moves against the front of the damaged chest of the Hyaku Shiki, Jerid snaps out of his trance, pushing her machine away.>Leila: You->Jerid: Stay away from me! [Side 2 has been captured by the Titans]
>>23690154>Jerid: Stay away from me!Bridges are really being burned, because apparently, anons are too rational to understand how apes function.
>>23690194Yeah the Gady plan seems 'rational' but a rational plan like that involves all targets acting correct and moving together. Now, Jerid isn't operating rationally, he's following his own desires. We sacrificed two influence with him to lose Gady and gain influence with Syrel (Now granted Gady dying just happened to be chance, it just sucks).The only option was to go with Jerid, which unified the battle plan around the most volatile element, or to duke it out with him, which is how Apes solve their problems.We now have a far more complicated situation because we didn't do either of those two.NOW, I am not complaining about the results, just reminding people that the most tactically sound option is only as strong as the most rebellious elements ability to implement it.
>>23690154As a war of blades, beams and bullets consumes space, a private war of words and ideology brews within Jamitov's private penthouse, with the Karaba captive Beltorchika Irma being questioned on her reasons for supporting the anti-Federation organization. For days, the process of debating and struggling to maintain her ideological position rationally without resorting to an emotional outburst weakens Beltorchika's resolve. As she dresses herself for the day, Beltorchika steps out from the bedroom prepared for her to find Jamitov looking out to the vast deserts surrounding Dakar.>Beltorchika:...Have you realized that the Titans are accelerating the destruction of the Earth? After everything we have spoken of, how can you stand there and act as if you have any position to stand on as a protector of the Earth when all your organization has done is->Jamitov: So long as mankind is allowed to cling to the Earth, the planet will continue to suffer. The Federation was built upon the ideals of the worlds nations being able to join together in unity for the betterment of mankind, and for the preservation of the Earth...and yet, it would come to become the primary source of faith to mankind. Its corruption, its lies, all of it silently condoned by the general population. All because the Federation was their future. Their only future.>Beltorchika:...Why are you doing any of this? Your organization has stripped away the basic rights of Spacenoids, and yet behind closed doors, you speak as if you share the same ideals as what the AEUG are->Jamitov: They call themselves the "Anti Earth Union Group", and yet their fundamental goal is shift the existing structure of the Federation into something more suitable for their desires. Blex is the kind of man who wants to believe that the Federation is capable of reforming itself in its current state. >Beltorchika: It is a far more noble goal that allowing it to exist as it has been->Jamitov: I completely agree.
>>23690200even if everyone acted rationally it was a risky plan because it isn't like a Hyaku Shiki and two Byarlants can screen for one ship while the rest of our forces wait for a potential retreat
Can we stop babysitting Jerid already?
>>23690212I don't see the point in constantly crying about a storyline that literally just started
>>23690200You can only say this in retrospect. If Gady survived we would have gone 2 for 2 in influence. The only bad things that happened to us were pure chance and could have happened if we picked any other option too.
>>23690226I honestly don't even blame Jerid here. He's reacting poorly but Kamille burned a bridge with him and got a side chick with almost the exact same name as the person who died in front of him. I'd be mad too if I suffered and watched everyone I cared for die while Kamille won by doing what was from his perspective, absolutely nothing.
>>23690232I now, I said as much. My point wasn't the influence it was how the plan was only rational on the surface.
>>23690212Im certainly voting to abandon or kill Jerid the moment we get the chance to do so. The retard hasn't learned shit from all his fuckups, babysitting his ass is frustrating.
>>23690207>Beltorchika:...You can say whatever you like, but the blood of millions is on your hands. On the hands of the Titans that carried out the heinous chemical attack on 30th Banchi->Jamitov: I never gave that order. The Titans were instructed to contain the situation, at the behest of certain Senators who had concerns of their constituents showing doubt in their positions if active protests were allowed to continue. The colony was contained, with its protest being selectively allowed to be broadcast to nearby Colonies. From there, their voices would be heard, and quickly spread through unsanctioned communication networks. When the Federation learned of this, my organization was ordered to end the protests without the use of Mobile Suits. Before I could prepare a reasonable solution, my second in Command had acted first. >Beltorchika: You are not shifting the blame here->Jamitov: This is simply the truth. Bask Om had moved ahead before I was able to realize his intentions, and as such...the ten million lives within 30th would be lost. >Beltorchika:...I despise people like you. It was because you pushed for the Titans existence that men like that monster Bask are allowed to hold onto power! How many atrocities as your organization condoned in the name of maintaining power?! >Jamitov: How many of those atrocities were condoned and called upon by the Federation Senate? How many of the Senators that preach of equality and stability actually believe in those words? From the moment the Federation came into existence, it has been nothing more than a shield for the same kinds of humans who drove mankind to the edge of collapse before the beginning of the Universal Century. I can see why Commander Bidan took an interest in you...I can tell you genuinely desire to see the truth of the world, but you were swayed by the sweet and seductive words of the AEUG. Do you realize where the majority of the AEUG's funds are provided->Beltorchika: Anaheim, ok?
>>23690226That's not what you lot said when Leila first joined the team. You were complaining about babysitting a cybernewtype before we even got to the first vote.
>>23690257>you lotdon't assume shit retard, I haven't complained about any of that
>>23690253>Jamitov: This is simply the truth. Bask Om had moved ahead before I was able to realize his intentions, and as such...the ten million lives within 30th would be lost.This makes you fucking worthless as well. How and when exactly do you plan to kill off Bask? When he causes enough bad blood to have the colonies defect to Axis?
>>23690253Jamitov said in so many words that he wasn't evil; he was only utterly incompetent.
>>23690274Forget Laplace's Box.RELEASE THE CARBINE FILES
>>23690253>Jamitov: No hesitation on that. Interesting->Beltorchika: That isn't even a conspiracy or a revelation at this point to anyone.>Jamitov: Much of the old worlds hatred and grudges made their way into space. Anaheim would be seeded by the scorn of its current leaders. The Jupiter Energy Fleets that allow for the decadence of the Earth to continue was only able to exist through the ambition and malice of those cast out to the darkest reaches of space without any hope of a future without reliance on the Federation. There are countless other examples, but the Federation is the foundation of all of those evils. Humanity must move beyond it. It must have something to truly look upon for hope of a better future. >Beltorchika: Ha! If you would ever consider the Titans to be such a thing->Jamitov: The Titans are the very epitome of the rot of the Federation. All of their sins, focused onto a single organization. >Beltorchika:...Huh? >Jamitov: Mankind was offered a source of faith beyond the Federation years ago. That new hope...was the idea of Newtypes. Space would no longer be a place where the undesirables of mankind would be exiled, but where they would achieve the next stage of their evolution. Zeon Zum Deikun's theory had the potential to push mankind to erode the Federation, and to finally allow the Earth to heal...and yet, he would die before his dream could become a reality. Unfortunately, he was also man who believed that dialogues alone would be enough to sway the Federation. >Beltorchika:...How can you say all of this while being a Senator of the Federation yourself? You are part of the very system you despise->Jamitov: I refused to make the same mistake so many other reformist have made. I exist within the Federation to accelerate its inevitable end. Rather than leaving humanity to fend in anarchy and darkness, devouring the Earth and the rest of the cosmos in its desperate attempts to survive, I will offer them a new faith. A new future.
>>23690252It's the same fucking pattern as the Amuro run.>people like Jerid, choose to spend time with him>that time is not spent on trying to improve him and eventually Jerid shits his pants>oh no, it's Jerid's faultI hope people don't have pets or reproduce.
>>23690257>whataboutismI'm actually all for the Jared kino and never wanted Leila, but this is a child's argumentation tacticraise your int nigga
>>23690284TITANS BELTORCHIKA!
>>23690253>>23690260>>23690274>Its not my fault!>Its actually the guy who I appointed who did crimes against humanity>Replace him? Nah
>>23690291LONDO BEL
>>23690284>>Beltorchika:...Huh?Hah! me too
>>23690296That does beg the question who would make a competent second in command for Jamitov. All the competent people seem to have died in the OYW. GQ having Wakkein survive the OYW interested me in how he would effect the post war.
>>23690306The obvious answer is Scirocco, who seemed to have been picked up in canon specifically to counteract Bask. That's exactly what happens in GG, after all.
>>23690306Unironically, Kai Shiden.
>>23690207>>23690253>>23690284So Jamitov is two things. A genuine Contolist and Accelerationist. He fully believes in Zeon Zum Deikuns view and that by making everything worse and accelerating the Federations collapse through the Titans he can bring about the future Deikun spoke of. He also seems to be a classical believer of newtypes but is willing to turn people into them with cyber augmentation and use them as weapons. Also seems we'll be getting Titans Bel what a run..
>>23690313I can only speak to canon and not how Copy X might have Jamitov characterized in this, but his mentality is essentially that anybody, earthnoid or spacenoid, can be a newtype, and that it's really a matter of mentality more than ability.
>>23690306IIRC neither Revil nor Wakkein died in Quacks. It would've been interesting to see what became of the Feds in that timeline, but nope, can't show anything interesting happening there except for the Titans jobbing once again and Sayla stepping up as Artesia at the very end of the show
>>23690306>>23690317>>23690306>>23690317Watching the show it seemed to me that the Federation was confined mostly to Earth, Zeon was hegemon of space, and side 6 a vassal state to Zeon. Show was way too short, don't even know who owned Luna II after the war, let alone the other Sides.
>>23690315That's the best mentality someone can have for newtypes at least. That anyone can become a newtype regardless of their position and physical body. Though that does lead to the Newtype labs and augmenting people into them, which is said in many sources to be an extreme human rights violation as it turns them into living weapons. Oh well I'm sure after a couple decades of trial and error there will be a procedure for civilians that turns them into newtypes that are well adjusted.
>>23690335I've seen it written that by the time of CCA, the process is perfected so that Gyunei isn't affected mentally by it - but then, CCA is a big refutation of newtypes in itself.
>>23690284>Beltorchika:...I can't even call you delusional. Have you ever said this to another person? Newtype, Oldtype, man, woman, anything else? Everyone would have the same reaction to what you are saying here, Jamitov. You are mad. Insane. >Jamitov:...Heh->Beltorchika: Don't you dare try to act like I am speaking nonsense! What is the point to all of this?! You act as if you are above the world and its representatives, and yet you carrying out the same foolishness that allowed for billions to die needlessly eight years ago! Is that why you brought me here? Because I am the only person you thought would tolerate your mad ramblings?! >Jamitov:...Regardless of you being a Newtype or not, I can tell you listened, and you responded. I have those who know of my intentions, but they have held their tongues on how they view my ideals. >Beltorchika:...You asked before if I would offer you my council. Do you still want that from me, even now? >Jamitov: Go ahead.>Beltorchika: Disband the Titans, ensure the men who enacted the horrors that you allowed to occur are properly punished, and take your own life. If you can't do those things, you are no better than everything you just ranted on about, and you will prove just how hollow your "ideals" are.Jamitov raises three of his fingers, lowering two of them slowly.>Jamitov: If you would be patient, you will see the first two within a matter of years. As for the third...when I have ensured my successors are prepared to ensure the prosperity of Newtypes, and that I have achieved the status of divinity from which mankind will finally have a belief worth existing for, I will allow you to bare witness to my end. Is that enough to satisfy you, Beltorchika Irma? Thinking of Jamitov's words, Beltorchika's expression grows increasingly frustrated, before a short blush forms on her face as she searches for anything to protect herself with.>Jamitov: What is that look?>Beltorchika: I know self defense, you bastard.
>>23690317>>23690332>interesting uc althist>except we'll spend most of the runtime on lalah char amuro melodrama again
>>23690315Courtesy of the fourth Zeta Gundam novel
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>>23690341>Beltorchika: Disband the Titans, ensure the men who enacted the horrors that you allowed to occur are properly punished, and take your own life.
>>23690341>Jamitov: What does that have to do with anything that I just said? >Beltorchika: If you think I am just going to roll over obediently from promises of the power you are trying to amass for yourself and all of these "higher purpose" ideas you keep pushing, I am not going to be used as some plaything for you to carry on your lineage! >Jamitov:...It took longer than expected for your lack of social awareness to manifest. >Beltorchika: No known family outside of distant relatives, no known records of any mistresses->Jamitov: Where exactly did this come from?>Beltorchika: All these talks of "successors" and constantly calling me a "Newtype"...i'd bite my own tongue off if you forced yourself on me! >Jamitov:...I am completely sterile. >Beltorchika:...Bull~shit. You are not->Jamitov: I have not told you a single lie from the moment you have arrived here. My genetic lineage will die with me...which is why the Newtypes of the future must carry on my will. I will not live to see the day that mankind will be truly freed from their desires for the Earth, but I will achieve true immortality, just as Zeon Deikun was meant to in a better time. Feeling her emotional guard crumbling, Beltorchika can't help but view Jamitov as a man fearing death, desperate to hide those fears by becoming a messiah for mankind, regardless of the heinous sins that would accompany such actions. >Jamitov: The Senate will be preparing for another gathering shortly. Please, request whatever room service you wish. >Beltorchika:...You can still stop this. >Jamitov: No. Not now. Leaving Beltorchika under guard, Jamitov makes his way towards the Senate Hall, finding Blex Forer and Quattro Bajeena already seated amongst the other Senators.>Jamitov: (Blex...and Char.)
Is bel about to clobber old 'tov?
>>23690356“You just want to fuck me, huh?!”“Bitch, my nuts don’t work”Western Tomino everyone.
>>23690356>Feeling her emotional guard crumbling, Beltorchika can't help but view Jamitov as a man fearing death, desperate to hide those fears by becoming a messiah for mankind, regardless of the heinous sins that would accompany such actions.Sits just about right.
>we send Bel to murder Jamitov>instead she becomes his debate girl and wonders if he wants to fuck herNever trust a woman in the Zeta era to do anything right...
>>23689844>Leila: embrace the bloodlust, let me drink their deaths through you>Jerid: the voices won't stop, it's in my miiiiind>/m/: they're making friends :)
>>23690289History repeats. No one genuinely wants to put in the effort for him when he'd be one of the strongest allies in a Titan run. In a similar vein, even Scirocco's influence with us isn't particularly high and he's already supporting the AEUG on the side so we shouldn't just shack up with him for free while assuming he'll have our back when the chips are down.
>>23690474isn't his (Scirocco's) influence currently 2/5? I don't think we should set us up for a "we are char so we can't betray ourselves!" situation leading to us blindly following scirocco but i want the full story before torpedoing what is potentially one of our best allies first.
>>23690477It's honestly hard to tell. The last time we gained influence was way back when we let ourselves be nerve-pinched so it might actually be only at 1/5 (we spoke for ourselves at Jamitov so I don't think we gained anything). I thought we were at 2/5 with Jerid personally but Copy hasn't been tracking as much as I would like and doesnt always immediately update us after decisions are made so it's hard to tell where we are at times.The real ideal would be like, more information during a poll (though some choices are self-explanatory) for a more informed vote though.
>>23690504If Copy provided info on influence with each vote, lots of anons would just blindly select whatever gave us the most net increase regardless of if it's actually the best choice. Look at us gaining influence with Gady five minutes before he died just now. I voted for Gady's plan too, even knowing this was a possibility, and it has at least achieved the mission of taking Side 2, but it would only have hurt us to be given the alignment info.God damn it, that fucker Bask has denied us having Mouar around to keep this disaster above sea level. We can't deal with Four, Leila, Jerid, Sarah, and Sydle all at once, it's too much crazy for one man to handle. Mouar would whip these morons into something resembling a military unit.Next time we get a decision with Jerid, we clock him. We have to do this and set things straight, ASAP, even if it means delaying an attack on Granada. If he hates us forever then we never stood a chance. It's a hail mary to bring this lunatic to heel and make him listen to us, or else he'll do this EVERY MISSION.
>>23690547That's why we should've clocked him in the first place. I'm unsure if we can undo the damage at this point now that Leila is leeching off his hatred but it's definitely worth a shot.I do agree that the meta-gaming would be in full force if we knew what gained points with who. The choices are fairly self-explanatory on that front. Just wish we had more info on what we were working with. Or rather, anons would actually read because from the jump Kamille only went in with 2 MS on his end to Jerid's 3 which is a tall order no matter how you slice it since, outside of Jerid and Kamille, none of the pilots are particularly amazing. Leila is still in a Titans Gundam and while the Byarlants are good units, Sarah and Sydle definitely aren't winning awards. Captain Four is also just as vulnerable as Gady outside her MS
>>23690556>Sarah and Sydle definitely aren't winning awards.They should level up soon at least. AEUG are having problems training their aces outside of Azul and Quattro as well. Being carried by a strong suit like the Byarlant is nice for them while our actual aces are stuck in old junk. Is the Byarlant even superior to Kamille's Super Gundam? It feels like it should be.
>>23690564I think it has more health but I could be wrong on that one. It's definitely hardier than the Gaplant on top of being able to fly (and use melee) unlike the Super.
>>23690564The Super Gundam's got a major problem right now of being wholly incompatible with every single other ace suit we have right now. It's a 2-3 Range unit who is terrible in melee and the entire rest of our roster is 1 range specialists. Really as the Titans neither are suits you truly want to spam right now tech wise Messala's should be flowing for any ace that wants one as its got every single box a Titan's ace would want filled. As for a stat comparison the Super Gundam is just better when it comes to everything but weapons where the Super Gundam really faulters since its kit consists of 360 power 2-3 range weapon and 274 power in 1/0 range weapon options, while the Byarlant is sitting on a chunky 660 power 1/0 range weapon loadout meaning the Byarlant is swinging for literally double the output every single time it attacks.
>>23690740Dang the Byarlant hits like a truck, I never realized it was that strong offensively. On a side note, as bad as the Side 2 capture went, I think we have to accept that Jerid is a long term investment on top of keeping Sarah and Sydle alive. Our actual main squad is very small and we need to raise influence with all our pilots. If we manage to wrangle him, Jerid and Kamille would be an unstoppable duo. Reason we don't have Mouar is cause she was never part of our unit and wasn't raised high enough to come along.It's not like the alternatives are much better at this point either. The Immortal 4th would be dealing with three Jerids (and without the stats) while Yazan probably wouldn't gel well with Kamille's newtype daycare.
>SydleThe subs I remember watching called her "Sidallly".
>>23690564Are (you) forgetting /m/ezun hoarding combat experience in every major front and his new Zeta G?
>>23690504I think Jerid's influence reset when Kamille left the Alexandria. That's why when Kamille came back and agreed to Gady's plan Jerid's influence only went to -1. They're different people now seeing eachother again, probably still figuring out what to make of eachother now that things have changed.
>>23690918Oh, that's possible. Never thought of that way. Makes sense if that were the case.Also stab in the dark but what are the chances that, because Bel is coming around on Jamitov ever so slowly, that she pops Scirocco during his coup attempt (assuming it happens in the same or similar spot as canon)?
>>23690918also to note, we had -1 with Jerid then we got it up before we left, so this is really just par the course.
>>23690474as much as people bitch and moan at anyone who isn't immediately giving Kamille a blowjob, they should at least consider having Jerid in the squad is a massive boon, all you need to do is max out his bond and actually interact with the guy
>>23690945>>23690983I guess next time there's a vote we'll be voting to rush the moon and destroy everything. Sure we're down an Alexandria and Gady is dead, but working with Jerid would be the best for now. As it'll make Leila happy and stabilize Jerid. Hopefully we can get some reinforcements like another ship.
>>23691114>has the option to try and settle things with Jerid to avoid further interpersonal drama >rushes the invasion of Side 2 when people are emotionally fucked up and Four doesn't even have a suit>wins pyrhhic victory, Gady dead, Jerid traumatized >guys we should totally rush the moon
>>23691347The only reason Gady died and this battle went to hell is because we tried to play it safe and sensible. We followed Gady's plan, underestimated the AEUG, and where punished for it. If we followed Jerids plan and went all out we would've done better. So next time let's go all out and go a vision quest! We know the Zeta is at Granada, while Leila and Jerid were having a newtype moment talking about the moon. Clearly Kamille's destiny is on the moon!!!
>>23691372Go all in and I bet Sydle or Four would have died.
>>23691372>If we followed Jerids plan and went all out we would've done better.While also not securing the area, which is why side5 was taken back by the aeug due to Monsha being so reckless. It's wild to say but Yazan is a man of reason this run with how through he's being in killing
>>23691372>If we would have followed Jerid's pla-The only reason we got fucked is because the AI decided to fuck us. It could have happened just the same if we did Jerid's idea, and I'd argue it probably would have been more likely to do it to boot. Again, you can only say this didn't work out for us in retrospect. If the AI had been as kind to us as it was at California Base you'd be eating crow right now.
>>23691428>If the AI had been as kind to us as it was at California Base you'd be eating crow right now.Yea I would be but I'm not. Something's changed either by Copy or by the game code itself, so playing carefully won't cut it anymore. Clearly newtype vision quest stuff is being presented here so we should start following along with it. I mean we did it partially with the Newtype labs saving Augusta and recruiting Four. Now all we need to do is follow along with whatever Leila and Jerid are having visions of. We don't have to go insane turning into a murderous monster either like when Kamille lost control with Leila. We can have Kamille being like Four, the sensible ones who prevent everyone from losing touch with reality.
>>23691465>somethings changed by copy or the game code itselfI think if Copy figured out the AI we wouldn't be having Amuro's MS being completely borked at the worst time. Jerid and Gady were AI controlled and did what the AI does best. Gameplay choices aren't some binary thing and objectively speaking even with the losses we won a hard fought battle. It's not some disaster if we still got a victory out of it.
>>23691465>we've been slowly losing our grip during this run due to negative feedback from Leila>Four endorsed an option for us>we take an option that wasn't endorsed by Four>sub-optimal results that lead to loose-cannon Leila dragging loose cannon Jerid into her orbit>we should now totally take actions endorsed by Leila because we'll still be sane after choosing thatHoly fuck, Jamitov is actually fucking real.
>>23691471Let's just listen to the Newtype women from now on. They'll pull Kamille in an interesting direction narratively whether it be good or bad.
>>23691476I'm not listening to Leila ever, solely because I don't like her as a character.
>>23691478Come on anon don't be an oldtype. Adapt to the situation and think beyond yourself. Leila may prove to be the way for Kamille to bond with Jerid once again. And don't you want to have a run where Jerid finally becomes a main part of the cast as protagonist? Sure Hydration Man Jerid was fun with Titans Amuro, but me and a lot of other people want Titans Kamille to have his own "Argama" group he can rely on you know?
>>23691496If not listening to mommy flavored Bask is being an oldtype then I call for total newtype death desu. She's been nothing but a petty, immature brat who's only excuse is listening to Kamille's worst instincts. She's been going behind our back constantly, acting petty, constantly suggesting to us the most murderhobo, impulsive, and/or maximally evil options possible. Even when we reprimanded her and gave her explicit reasoning as to why we dislike her behavior she doesn't grow or change. I don't like her in the slightest and I think every suggestion she's given this run has been absolutely terrible and/or has backfired on us spectacularly. Why would I on god's green spacenoidless earth listen to her EVER when she has been all take and no give? She's been fucking with Jerid's head too so I trust her even less.
>>23691496Bonding?>Jerid: Stay away from me! We'd bond really well if we plugged Leila in theb head with a bullet, I'd bet.
Leila's only redeeming feature is that she's putting in good work in battles. She is completely toxic in every situation other than fighting.
>>23691478>>23691500>>23691503These>>23691476This just feels like the same coombrain fetish shit that made us vote to let Kamille get mindraped by Haman in grey AEUG
>>23691503I think Jerid would still get pissed at that because he's project that we're killing Lila somehow.>>23691500>>23691506with that said i agree on not really picking her options
>>23691507>This just feels like the same coombrain fetish shit that made us vote to let Kamille get mindraped by Haman in grey AEUGThis inherently wasn't a problem, what was a problem was immediately doing nnothing with that investment and letting Haman go crazy by voting for her to partake at Gryps but also voting directly against the things she wanted
>>23691510>This inherently wasn't a problemYeah it was because it led directly to us completely unraveling the campaign. That and deliberately getting Blex killed, but you know.
>>23691510>>23691507what happened with Kamille and Haman was kinda just stuff that got caught in the crossfire of the bigger issue we had with that run, how extremely controversial Char was and playing as him.That whole mess could've been avoided if we didn't get Blex killed.
>>23691516Nah, what led to that as Char related things, as well as nobody voting to figure out what the actual plot was and constantly voting for opposite things characters should be doing and retarded attempts at metagaming(e.g what killed Blex was half MUH JUPTIER PEOPLE half UHH WE PLAY CHAR SO CCA DON'T HAPPENN)The Haman and Kamille thing could be interesting, but just like almost anything else that run like us voting to help the ALF then abandoning them when they actually asked for help later we just kept voting or stupid shit that ''we' never invested in and abandoned plotlines entirely
>>23691528>we just kept voting or stupid shit that ''we' never invested in and abandoned plotlines entirelySounds really familiar.
>>23691532>>23691528So in other words, we haven't learned our lesson the moment we decided to go back the labs again (not again!)Hey I remember saying that exact same thing when that first happened, crazy huh? Almost as if I know what I'm talking about.Still this is far from bad currently.
>>23691533the only black mark this run has been leila, really. I don't get why people are catastrophizing Gady's death. We made a suboptimal decision but I wouldn't call this even remotely terrible. We captured the territory despite our lower numbers and driven back the AEUG when the space front has been terrible. This feels more like "shit happens" than us choosing to not defend the white base in the MK V.
>>23691538Yeah I'm fine with Gady dying all things considered, I just kinda hope we can take a break and punch it out with Jerid or something.Like I've seen actual run ending disasters, this is more like a punch to the gut than a sword to the neck.
>>23691538Even Leila isn't that big of a deal, she just provides friction and a subplot, I think the writing around her isn't really bad and Kamille not opting to treat someone like a tool makes sense, him also falling into a bond with someone like her also makes sense since people voted for Kamille to run off on own when hes vulnerable
>>23691538>I don't get why people are catastrophizing Gady's death.Gady had just as much build up as Jerid does, being a member of the original Alexandria and surviving with Jerid. He was also stapled back together into being a horrific cyborg which was cool. So losing Gady when Kamille just met him again really stings. It doesn't help that Gady was clearly being signaled to fill the role of older captain for the group. Which is an important role for any crew of newtypes.
I think the key here is just being assertive. Leila folds pretty quick to Kamille in a direct confrontation. Even if she goes behind his back, it's good to set the tone for how he treats her and how aware he is. Take any chance to set her straight without pushing her away too much. Beat the fuck out of Jerid the next time we see him and let him know how much of a fuckup he is. All decisions I'm sure will come with a strategic cost. Like sorry guys, Kamille's the tard wrangler now and if we shirk that, we're just gonna have to keep cleaning up messes and dealing with these idiots spiraling and making each other worse.
>>23691555Jerid doesn't need to be told he is a fuck up he needs Kamille to give him a knuckle sandwich or else he will stay the same. The Jock doesn't care when someone tells him he is wrong but he does care if his pride is challenged in fisticuffs.
>>23691555Tard wrangler Kamille here we come then. The Captain of a ship of Newtypes practically the Titans own version of White Base. Kamille's probably gonna have to throw down some Bright Slaps to keep Leila and Jerid in line, with Jerid it'll probably need to be a beatdown honestly.
>>23691546The thing is all of Kamilles “I can fix her” girls usually died off fast in the show. In this timeline he has an absolute basket case who keeps doing awful shit under the pretense of “lol you were thinking it so I did it tee-hee”. Hopefully Jerid strangles the hell out of because a simple punch didn’t fix her shit.-We could also get her factory reset in India. They wiped her mind once so why not again? Bring her back as a cute fight maniac like this Four we have.
>>23691581That kind of thing would be incredibly out of character for Kamille right now, only way I could see him doing that is if she does something so unforgivable it makes Kamille breaks his morals on how he feels about the labs(which isn't favorable at all)
>>23691571Everyone's been talking about beating up Jerid and it's reasonable it'll be a choice in the future. Jerid will be punished for Gady's death and the loss of his Alexandria. >>23691581Can't happen. Kamille and Leila are joined at the hip now, lovers for better or worse, heaven or hell. Best they make it work rather then end up like Kamille's parents Franklin and Hilda.
>>23691581I feel Copy doesn't give us options like that without a caveat, and if we ever find out it'll be whenever we already made the decision to come there previously, so we'll be forced into doing something detrimental so we don't have to deal with what we're currently dealing with.
>>23691555>Tardwrangler Kamille who is also too invested in his tards to get rid of them and recruit non tardsTruly, he is Jamitov's chosen son
>>23691685>went from Frank to JamitovJust make sure we don't into Iron Mask, because once we get there, the stain is forever.
>>23691699that would require us to be cucked in a way we care about, have our face mutilated, and also to be TRAPPED and BETRAYED after we lose faith in humanity's ability to manage itself while contolismaxxing
>>23691533Securing the newtype labs was perfectly fine, if we let them get taken by aeug it would have been horrible for us, not to mention ignoring them would let them make man made horrors beyond comprehension again. At the end of the day we still secured the earth front and had a near perfect victory(rip deux). I would have preferred if we had secured mouar and not fucked our relationship with leila but anons were too horny at the time. Additionally I wish we secured Nanai since she is usually pretty competent in most runs.
>>23691816>Additionally I wish we secured Nanai since she is usually pretty competent in most runs.>Zeek>Char's groupieWe would need Leila to perform so many corrections before I'd trust her.
>>23691839But would she be a groupie of Char's by this point? If not, Kamille could've swooped in and been that, and she'd be at least some help. Then again, it didn't seem like anything untoward was gonna happen to her at the labs anyways.
>>23690356>Bridge Officer: Lifeboat Delta-03, please prepare for unloading. Make sure all of you are properly suited for Zero-G.>Four:...We won, right? Why doesn't it feel like we did?>Bridge Officer: Thanks for covering for the Commander. We can take it from here.>Four: Are you sure->Namicar: Of course they are sure, Four. Come along, you obviously need to release some pent up energy you are holding onto...Within the hangar of Kamille's Alexandria, only a handful lifeboats are recovered, with the remainder either being directly destroyed by the AEUG during the fighting, or suffering technical failures from being improperly launched. >Hangar staff: Follow the guide beacon! Oh hell, he is off course! Scatter!!Crashing into the hangar of the Alexandria, Jerid's Hyaku Shiki rips through a momentum reduction net, with the Mobile Suit screeching across the metallic floor. Exiting his Mobile Suit, Jerid floats towards the surviving lifeboat, while Leila's Gundam lands next to him crashed machine.>Jerid: Who didn't make it?!>Jerid subordinate: Sir, the real question is "who made it". Commander Kinsey is gone, Lieutenant->Jerid: God dammit all-Fa! Seeing Fa departing from one of the lifepods, Jerid floats towards her, with the young woman nervously raising her hands up in preparation of being struck. >Fa: I didn't do anything wrong->Jerid: You help some of the others escape?>Fa: T-they helped me->Jerid: The fact you did that means that they trust enough as part of the crew. Good to see you made it. >Fa: Lieutenant...! >Leila: Trying to act like a leader now, Jerid? It would be convincing, if I didn't know the kind of person you are->Jerid: Whoever, or whatever you are, you ever try to screw with my head like that again, i'll toss you out in space. >Leila: No you won't~. As Jerid prepares to lunge at Leila to assault her, Kamille's Mark II makes landing, with the young Newtype using his Gundams hand to block Leila and Jerid from one another.
>>23691885Oh boy, the fateful reunion we were waiting for, here goes
>>23691885Don't let Fa's presence deter us, corrections are in order.
>>23691885Maybe Fa can be the bridge Kamille and Jerid need to not murder each other.
>>23691885Fa looks cute in BDU from other factions and male AEUG BDU.
happy new years, /m/! heres to hoping for a great run
>>23691885>Fa and Jerid kinoI knew it.
>thread got me in the mood to play GG again>got through part 1 as the Federation, doing some stuff I never tried before>took the fight to Zeon early with massed bombers>disbanded the White Base unit immediately>started and immediately tapped out of the 08th MS Team, Blue Destiny, and 0080 events>but I thought it was fucking weird how random parts of dialogue weren't translated and the game kept hanging briefly when it was loading stuffAnd that's how I learned my hard drive is failing, and badly. Happy New Year, all!
>>23691952Happy New Year, sucks to hear about the Hard Drive. BEst get an upgrade before AI ruins that too.
>>23691952>>23691953It it already is. SSDs going up by at least 20% next quarter, HDDs up 4%.Inflation awaits us all.
>>23691953>>23691959I have a spare 8TB to use in the meantime, but yeah, sucks ass. I'll have to start over and I won't get such good luck again. I stole the plans for the Braw Bro and put a rank S Amuro in it.
>>23691960My Amuro's been in Alex for a long time, he barely made it through 0083 and into the Zeta era conflicts. Although, I kept White Base mode on until around Odessa or so to scalp the +50 LAW points + keeping all of the WB pilots except Ryu.The Alex seems like it should be better than it is, I don't know, it was just kind of shit even when I first got it. I can't put my finger on why.In related news, Cima absolutely sweeps right now in the Gerbera. Once I gain the Mk-II I'm pretty sure I'll get a pretty big power jump.
>>23691966>Alexit is shit in contrast to the other gundam upgrades. FA gundam can become the buster launcher and the regular rx-78-2 can become the g-armor, g-bull and g-sky which makes it the most versatile oyw era mobile suit by a country mile. Its worth using rx-78-2's just to make g-armors/bulls/skies for pilots like eleodore or sleggar. the problem with the alex is that it is generally better than the base gundam, but has way shittier firepower than the fa gundam or heavy gundam while FA alex makes the firepower even shittier and nerfs its mobility, which is the only thing it really has going for it. the gp's and mk-ii are way better than it, which is a travesty since its my favorite suit. if i knew how i'd make a cheat code to patch its stats.
>>23691966I had Amuro in the Pixie at Kilimanjaro. Absolutely tore through the enemy.
>>23691971I had Bork in it for most of the Earth conflict, but honestly, his and Ford's stats are so abysmally shit that it doesn't feel worth putting them in good suits sometimes.
>>23691966The enemies have improved. Rick Doms are actually dangerous if Reflex and Mobility aren't high enough. The Alex is too balanced, should have been given more mobility and limit to reflect the 360 panoramic cockpit and control quirks.
Honestly I was browsing the JP wiki to check something and yet somehow I never noticed Matt Healy was even in this game despite playing so much
>>23691976That's because the game is defaulting them to their replacements stats. There are cheats to set their correct stats and then you gotta undo the cheats to let them level up.
>>23691982Oh I see, thanks for letting me know, I've basically been playing them gimped the whole time, makes sense why they felt so dogshit lmfao>>23691977That makes sense actually. The problem I kept running into was that Amuro would basically leave every fight with enemies worth a pinch of salt almost dead and have to spend time recovering that I would have preferred using him to kill more people. Since most of my Gundams were remodeled into Alexes at that point besides the Buster Launchers and the few G-Armors I made, I strategized around that with mass production of GM Powered as a form of human wave tactics to replace my now defunct Balls. Kou was really my workhorse in the Delaz conflict once he got the Dendrobium.
>>23691885>Jerid: If you hadn't got in my way, Gady and the others would still be alive! You came to sabotage me! To weaken me->Kamille: Oh, shut up! So many of your comrades have lost their lives again, and all you can think of is yourself! You haven't changed at all! >Leila: He knows that trying to match you as he is now is pointless. He also knows that the only way to ever be near your brilliance, is to follow->Jerid: Kamille!! >Fa:...What? K-Kamille? >Jerid: If I had the Mark II that day, Lila would still be alive! The AEUG would have been destroyed by now!! I would have risen to my rightful place, not you!! Unlocking his cockpit, Kamille floats out to confront Jerid, with Leila moving to his side to further agitate Jerid.>Kamille: Did you set him off? >Leila: I only told him what you both already know. The moron should be thankful that he shares that passion you prefer to keep bottled away->Kamille: I told you to help him, not antagonize him!>Leila: You saw what we did together out there. You see that angry face of his right now? It is because he knows what the two of us together are capable of->Fa: Kamille Bidan?! Recognizing the voice without even a single moment of doubt, Kamille's eyes immediately shift to Fa. >Kamille: Fa...! >Jerid:...What is the horseshit? You two know each other? >Kamille: Why are you in a->Fa: Titans Uniform? Why...are you? Why are you here, Kamille?! I thought you were dead! All this time...you were-Entering into the hangar to tout how well she had Commanded in Kamille's absence, Four immediately detects the immense animosity between both Kamille and Jerid, along with a creeping smirk on Leila's face. Releasing her hand from Namicar's, Four makes the only rational move she can think of. Floating next to Leila, Four smacks her firmly against the cheek, breaking the tension instantly.>Leila: W-wha...you!! Why did you hit->Four: This is between them, not you. Stop it.
>>23692037That's our goatFour could make assistant caretaker with initiative like that
>>23692037Four is MVP.
>>23692037Fourllenby once again proving why she is the GOATest of GOATs
>>23692037>Four has been the chief tard wrangler of this runI'm never doubting the chads who voted to return to Murasame again.
>>23692067But if those folks got what they voted for we wouldn't have gotten this Four
>>23692037Sensing Kamille's emotions, Leila panics as she feels his true thoughts silently appreciating Four's actions. >Four: I didn't announce that hit...so feel free to strike me. You won't feel satisfied, but the offer is there if you->Kamille: Enough, both of you! Clenching her fist, Leila slugs Four across her face, drawing blood from the Cyber Newtype as she spits out freshly drawn blood.>Four:...I hope you made that count. You aren't getting a second one like that- >Leila: I will not let you ruin him. >Four: You are the problem here-In the moment Leila kicks against Four's still encased leg, both young women are thrown into a feral struggle, forcing Kamille to intervene to pull both of them apart from one another. Witnessing the dysfunctional nature of Kamille's forces, along with seeing a moment of severe weakness in Leila, Jerid takes Fa by her arm, leading her out from the hangar, even as she tries to call out for Kamille. Catching Four's clenched fist, Kamille struggles to keep her from breaking free to continue attacking Leila.>Kamille: You made your point! >Four: I won't stop. Not until she is thinking for herself, not hiding behind your thoughts-Leila kicks against Four's cast again, driving Four into a state of sheer rage as she elbows Kamille in the neck, intensifying her attack on Leila with her hands freed again. >Leila: You shouldn't exist! If he had not let himself be weakened, Zero would have eliminated all of-Feeling more of her memories returning, Leila's guard is lowered long enough for Four to pin her against the floor, beating her viciously. >Leila: A-aah! I-it hurts! Stop! S->Four: No. Not until...the only voice coming out of your mouth is your own.>How will Kamille end the fight between Leila Raymond and Four Murasame?https://strawpoll.com/poy9kxRGOgJ
>>23692113Going for disabling both because this shit is fucking embarrassing. Please let Kamille be the tard wrangler here.
>>23692113Four being fed up with Leila's shit? Very relatable, I'm disabling Leila.
>>23692116I hate to doublepost but what is Four saying that is actually wrong? She's done nothing but hide behind our thoughts and parroting our worst instincts 1:1. At worst she elbowed Kamille who got into the crossfire, but Leila has done nothing but scheme, plot, and cajole behind our backs and has acted extremely horrible when we don't give into our worst instincts. Four is completely right here.
>>23692127The situation doesn't seem productive to me. I can understand talking with your fists to someone like Jerid but not with an experiment like Leila. Also I wouldn't really care if it ended with just the slap but it continued to escalate. I think we can speak to Leila like human beings since that's how we decided to treat her from the start.
>>23692127This is the end result of choosing to effectively mind-meld with her. We have been paying for that option the entire time. I feel like if we let them go at it, Leila's gonna 'break' and the seal on her memories of Proto Zero will shatter. I feel like intervening builds influence, but holy shit if we let Jerid help we unlock the Leila NTR path. We do NOT want to do that.
>>23692113You know what? I'm gonna let Four cook this time and let her keep beating Leila, since it seems to be working in getting her old old self back. Second option is pinch both to establish a lack of favoritism since while Four is in the right, it's not her place to punish Leila for us unless given permission, and certainly not this brutally.
>>23692132We talked to her like a human being, only for her to constantly try manipulating us and getting into others' heads as well. What she did to Jerid was extremely uncalled for and she's been taking more than giving. Not to mention she's been going against Kamille's best wishes and not changing in the slightest. Treating her like a person doesn't mean coddling her when she behaves like a piece of shit the entire time and hasn't learned anything from the last time Kamille snapped at her.
>>23692136Sure, then the only other option I can understand would be letting it play out fully and seeing her gain her memories back and hoping she wouldn't have to piggyback off of Kamille's thoughts as much. Disabling only one of them literally doesn't fix anything. Also as a sidenote I still can't believe we even have to deal with Leila at all since no one posting in the threads even enjoys her presence.
>>23692142Ah wait, you are right with the memory thing. My bad, work went on all night so I made a tired response. I should have thought about it harder.
>>23692133Let Jerid get Leila. Two massive fuckups either make each other so much worse or fix themselves, either way it will be fun
>>23692146Leave Jerid out of this he doesn’t deserve to be lumped with this drama
>>23692148I'm pretty sure it's just one anon going "KILL MURDER JERID" even though we objectively betrayed him
>>23692113>disable just FourWhy would we do this>disable just LeilaFour may be a better subordinate than Leila in that she isn't constantly pursuing her own agenda, but should we really reward her for just rocking up to Leila and smacking her in the face? This was not a situation that demanded such intervention.>disable bothUnfathomable aura loss if we fail to achieve this, and doing it to two people at once might be difficult. It's the "safe option" but safe options have been fucking us over recently. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop on this nerve pinch thing, it's going to fail eventually, we had a narrow escape with Bask where he absolutely could have killed us in the time it took to take effect.>let them fightI don't think Four and Leila have a dynamic like Kamille and Jerid where they aren't seeing each other's point of view. Four knows Leila's point of view, and she hates it. Leila simply doesn't care about Four. I don't like this option.>call for JeridHe will never respect us again if we do this.
>>23692154i actually think now based on the post and what anons are saying that letting them fight will revert Leila to before we mind melded. I don't like this Leila at all so reverting her would be a great idea.
>>23692113>Leila's guard is lowered long enough for Four to pin her against the floor, beating her viciously. That's fucked up.I'm voting to disable both Four and Leila. Four usually has a point in her wisdom but I don't like how Four is savagely beating Leila and forcing Leila to accept Four's point of view. Trying to force others to accept one's views instead of trying to reach an understanding with dialogue is how a lot of the bullshit infesting UC began and this fight is a microcosm of it.Kamille has for better or worse so far treated Leila like a person and communicated with her honestly, we should be patient and continue to do so without needing to resort to methods as forceful as Four's.
>Do nothingFour keeps beating up Leila. Very bad ramifications. Healthy or not, Leila trusts us and depends on us. I don't think the solution to her growing problems is letting her get pinned down and get the shit kicked out of her. She could come to view us as somebody who will enable harm to come to her.>Beg Jerid to help usLiterally everybody will think we're a bitch, and he'll either ignore us or attack us.>Knock Four outPsychotic choice.>Knock both outI think it's too much. This makes us seem like "do as I say when I say, or I'll use psychic powers to fucking shut your brain down". I also feel like the girls will just keep resenting each other.I'm voting to disable just Leila. Kamille can verbally reprimand Four, she's out of line but not totally unreasonable. She'll lay off Leila, so we can get her to her quarters so she can rest.
>>23692154>This was not a situation that demanded such intervention.When taken as a whole? Yes, it is. This situation is again, things boiling over from previous decisions gone sour.Either let Four finish or pinch Leila. We need to actually be firm with Leila about what happened with Zero and help her move on.
>>23692113I personally want to let Four keep punching her cause Leila sucks but I voted to KO Leila. Can't let her get beat up too badly while she's going crazy and as a bonus we get to see what happens to Kamille when he hurts her>>23692142Titans Kamille equivalent of letting Blex get killed then completely shutting out the Jupiter guys
is my goat BRAVE COD in this run
>>23692113Although I would like to let Leila stop being part of our subconscious and recover all her memories, I am almost certain that Four will go too far and leave her in a very bad condition to fight, plus she will resent us for not intervening.
>>23692037Went with let them finish. I trust Four and Leila is turning into a bigger piece of shit the longer she gets away without her scheming being punished.
>>23692113I got home too late to vote but it wouldn't have mattered anyway I guess. You niggers really disabled both instead of just Leila? Really?
>>23692133Jerid already has Fa. He won.
>>23692612Not what I wanted but it happens. At least it wasn’t the worse options.
>>23692612In this instance, all Leila did was smirk and Four decked her for it. It's not okay regardless of how much Leila has has this coming.
>>23692612really you should just be blaming the people who want Leila to get her head bashed in while Kamille watches(aka acting like Jamaican and Bask) at least here he's stopping the conflict without picking favorites, for reference I voted for pinching Leila but I think this could be fine too.
>>23692621>all leila did was use newtype powers to manipulate jerid in the middle of a battle, contributing to gady's death (in the narrative), while undermining us at every single possible opportunity>why are you stopping the fight by supporting Four???????? What do you mean she wouldn't keep hitting a comatose girl with the hundred crack fist of the north star?As usual, /m/ can't fucking read.
>>23692621That brat is like a 5G antenna, poisoning our boys minds just with her presence, and four caught up to it
How the hell did that dark horses even get all those votes? Same thing happened with Beltorchika vote. No organic voting is taking place, and it's not the fault of those who voted to let the fight happen.
>>23692634/m/ is allergic to having characters confront and sort out their problems. Which leads to some imploding on us like Char did in Grey AEUG.
>>23692612It's just the regular problem we have of speedreaders not actually sitting down and digesting the situation to figure out what each option is actually going to do for us. In this case anons apparently thought supporting Four meant Leila would get beaten half to death while she can't fight back.
>>23692651Well that's really what the 'let the fight happen' result would be like, to be frank I have no idea if this would be the "right" scenario to let Leila get her memories back
>>23692650What's crazy to me is that the same people who wanted Jerid and Kamille to fight and sort their shit out are now complaining about Four and Leila "embarassing" us (which is the same complaint Sidle and Sarah had about the brewing fight between Jerid and Kamille).
https://youtu.be/RPaozgo4s-Y>Mixes from the lab again (uh oh!)I want to dissect the Yakubian apes who wanted to just do nothing at all for science.
>>23692664Oh, boy, we're going back to school and zero tolerance bullshit policies.
>>23692664I voted to pinch but doing nothing at all to "unlock her memories" (read:Leaving her in a pool of her own blood) would have been fine too
>>23692656>the same people who wanted Jerid and Kamille to fight and sort their shit out are now complaining about Four and Leila "embarassing" usDon't know what you're talking about. I voted for both fights.No one wants to speak ape.
>>23692732Leila specifically attacked a still healing area on Four and did it without announcing. At this point Four is rightfully beating her ass.
>>23692732Leila needs the ass beating desu
>>23692656When men fight it's them genuinely getting their emotions out and releasing whatever they truly feel. For Kamille and Jerid there's no way they'll ever just sit down and talk, it's impossible. So the best way to communicate their feelings is to beat the snot out of eachother. At least then they'll understand each other's anger. When women fight it's just hysteric nonsense where they battle over men or position. Which was literally happening here with Leila and Four fighting over how Kamille needs to be influenced. It was best to end with a nerve pinch to both of them. Both of them get to rest, and both know not to start clawing at eachother again in front of Kamille now.
>>23692743
God damn it, Leia needs her ass beaten, what a mistaken lost cause we attached kamille too.
I wish we just fucking stayed on the Alexandria.
>>23692750>I'm just a pathetic man who lost his childhood friend to that no dimes jobber, Jerid.
>>23692634>in this instanceIt is you who cannot readLeila has done many things wrongThis doesn't mean you can beat the shit out of her for not cutting the crust off a sandwichPunishments should be specific and targeted, what exactly triggered Four to assault her? A mere facial expression. The deep lore behind that expression doesn't change that fact.
>>23692906>Leila kicks against Four's cast again, driving Four into a state of sheer rage as she elbows Kamille in the neck, intensifying her attack on Leila with her hands freed again.Alright so Leila has the right to attack Four's broken arm because...?
>>23692910And that's why I voted to pinch both. These bitches are out of control. May we pray that Kamille gets a handle on them, unlikely though it seems.
>>23692906>it doesn't matter that four, also being a psychic, understands exactly what leila is thinking, what she did and whyThis goes beyond not just being able to read, you've actually got 1 int dude
>>23692912>These bitches are out of control.Unfair to Four. Four has not been a problem beyond complaining about not finishing pilots off. Largely a non-issue. Leila on the other hand, is causing Kamille and Jerid meter to go down knowingly by giving into emotional impulses without regards to the mission. Tailor the punishment to the crime. If the punishment for lateness or treason is death, may as well choose treason.
is there anyone that isn't a 1 INT monkey that can explain why knocking out both of them is a solid idea?as a side note worse case scenario I can see this option just pissing off everyone involved>Jerid: Wow you can't control either of your women, pathetic, -1>Fa: Kamille wtf happened to you, this isn't how you treat women, -1>Lelia: wtf i'm the victim here>Four: wtf I didn't do anything wrong, -1.Like who is this helping? honestly.
>>23692967I didn't vote for it because I hated it but looking at any potential positives, it shuts down any potential of things getting out of hand. It leads to us looking somewhat intimidating if we want to LARP as a shitty titans captain, and it lets us get back to talking to Jerid and Fa, maybe? I'm grasping at straws here.
>>23692967I'm >>23692176 so I didn't vote for it, but I can see some appeal in that it establishes us in more of a position of dominance. More of a Scirocco-esque position.
>>23692967You got it down correctly there. Like even disabling leia alone probably wouldn't have made four happy since she alone was winning, while getting hit at an injury Letting the fight continue was ideal as a means of having the battler get their fix while putting a brat in their place finally>>23692975Straws that are not worth it. Things have gone downhill since the stupid bond and this was looking like a case of breaking it
>>23692975>It leads to us looking somewhat intimidating if we want to LARP as a shitty titans captainFranklin>Jamitov>BaskReally scrapping the bottom here. At least it's not calling for Jerid, because that would be Jamacain.>3 votes for Jamacain>majority of 'pinch both' unkown>1 INT monkey 'pinches both' and reveals himself to be Iron /M/ask
>>23692993I voted to call for Jerid for laughs. All options looked terrible.but that seemed the one with the funniest outcome.
>>23692993I voted for pinching just Leila because I'm sick of her shit but also wanted to stop the fight between her and Four to save face. Letting them hash it out makes Kamille look incompetent and ineffectual as a CO and handler, and also keeps us rooted there dealing with Leila's bullshit while Jerid and Fa fuck off. Asking Jerid for help also would have been a bitch move after all the things we said to him.
>come back after new years>miss close vote where I would have voted to pinch leilaFUCK
>>23692916In the first instance, Four does not even have the right to discipline Leila directly. The culture of the Titans makes this fact mostly irrelevant, they beat the shit out of each other all the time even among members of equal rank, but it's still worth impressing on Four that she does not have the right to fight whoever she wants at the slightest provocation. If there's an issue with Leila, her first instinct should be to inform us, Leila's commanding officer.More importantly, it's just a terrible precedent to have a bunch of newtypes constantly reading each other's thoughts and attacking them whenever they see something they don't like. If we sided with Four now, what right would we have to complain if later on Leila attacked Four for deliberately letting an enemy go? Or for questioning literally anything we say or do? In the worst case scenario, the two would form such an intense rivalry that they would end up trying to manufacture reasons to kill each other in a firefight. We need to establish ourselves as the only one with the right to issue corrections unless specific orders are given or actual treason takes place (not out of the question with Leila, admittedly)
1 int chimps should not speak btw
>>23693045She getting pinched bro, you didn't miss anythingEveryone is getting the pinch sooner or later.
>>23693062too bad for you, they can still votewhat a familiar discourse
>>23693073>they can still votefor now.
Strange that none of those who voted to put both to sleep have come forward to give their reasons, despite it being the upset of the day for everyone.
>>23693079I did motherflupper, kamille's a titan and in charge. He don't care who started it, stand down means stand down, and if these young ladies are going to act like children then they're both going to bed early. End of story
>>23693079It's kind of just like the no thought put into the process choice? What I mean is that it feels exactly like the kind of choice that someone who's just glancing at the strawpoll voting for whatever feels right with no real greater thinking about the process is 100% the choice they'd be drawn to pick. Basically, I think the majority of the low engagement lurkers voted for that choice without thinking about it.
>>23693079>>23693087Pretty much, given the only anon who deigned to explain himself is a legitimate retard
>>23693079>none give their reasonson look here comes the botting accusation again, despite >>23692116 and >>23692164 existed.so yeah, forgive me for not posting here to be accused of being a bot, illiterate or a 1 int monkey. i have better things to do.
>>23693085>>23693087/m/ really wants to be Franklin so bad...
>>23693093>accusedthen stop voting like a bot, illiterate, and/or 1 int monkey
>>23693079I voted to pinch both but I don't see the point in getting involved in the tantrums ITT. Copy's going to write the results of the vote and then we'll truly see who was right and who was wrong then. Getting worked up beforehand is pointless.
>>23693098you will engage with the screeching retard making accusations in the thread and you will like it
>>23693098i voted to pinch leila and got miffed and even i dont get why we're freaking out this bad pre results. That said I still miss my starship troopers run with Jerid instead of cyber love triangle drama.
Votes have been consistent through the threads votes, stop accusing motherfuckers of Botting. Botting was when we had 20 average votes for a poll, then, suddenly, 40-50 for a SPECIFIC poll, then back down to 20, usually over the most intense situations.Not consistent 40-50 on even the most minor choices that don't majorly matter. None of the elements of cheating the votes is present in the poll.
We're not even bitching about the outcome, you're just being called a retarded speedreader. Cry about it.
>>23693108People feel negatively towards Leila and much less to Four. Punishing her disincentivizes her to interfere more. Her interference is more welcome than Leila at this point.
>>23693070I didn't want Four getting pinched, she did nothing wrong.
>>23693158I wanna add on that the only reason why we're in this spot with Lelia in the first place is due to some real sheer ass misunderstanding of what the "bond with lelia" choice meant, fucking (Glass Him) and (Comfort Misha) levels of being unable to read the fucking room.In general there seems to be severe misunderstandings with what people end up voting for.
>>23693180I would not be surprised if the pinch woke up an Oozaru Four.
>>23693079Strange that it's always one bitch complaining that no one is making a case for their votes and thinking that means anything
>>23693195The guy is blowing steam that the choices to strongly refute Leila lost. The accusations about botting aren't really legitimate to me though. I just see as regular stupidity.
>>23693180Pretty much. It's why I agree with the hypothesis that most of the votes for these contentious choices aren't bots, but just lurkers voting with what "feels right" despite not actually reading through everything and just glancing over the strawpoll.
Anons... pray for me please.
>>23692113Despite the delayed effects of Bask Om, Kamille chooses to neutralize both Four and Leila with the technique taught by Scirocco. Having a perfect opening to both of their thin necks, Kamille jabs both Four and Leila at the same time, intent on ending both of their struggles at the same time. >Kamille: (Be still-)Pain. Being struck by his father, the beatings he had sustained from Mezun and the others in Karate practice, even the assaults of men like Bask...none of it could be considered pain any longer to Kamille. In the seconds upon casting his will upon both Leila and Four, Kamille is beset by the truest form of pain he had ever felt in his life. Every organ, every nerve, every singular cell in his body all ceasing functioning in an instant...only for the purest form of serenity to claim Kamille. Collapsing atop one another, the three Newtypes lay motionless, their bodily functions malfunctioning as puddles form beneath them. >??? 1: Doctor Flanagan is growing far to soft. It will only be a matter of time until the Federation attack Solomon. Even if Vice Admiral Dozle can hold it, conventional warfare is on the cusp of being made obsolete. >??? 2: Watch what you say. Supreme Commander Gihren has eyes and ears everywhere.>??? 1: Lady Kycilia has made sure we are secured. We know that Earthnoid mutant can manage the Bit system, so why are we delaying any longer on this?! >??? 3: Side 6 is becoming increasingly nosy about our work. The less viable subjects are becoming more difficult to dispose of without questions->??? 1: To the hell with all these fence sitters. They won't live to see the future Zeon is building anyways...I don't like that look this subject is giving me. You are absolutely certain nothing is left of her original personality? >??? 4: It is still a work in progress, but she will be viable host for the Psychommu puppet system. >??? 1: She had better be. Even if you have to lobotomize her completely, I want it functional.
>>23693231Double-pinching is not recommended, that or abusing it has consequences.Oh well.
Oh good, that went well
>>23693224nigger what the fuck is going on?
>>23693231The three are likely going to get along well after reaching an understanding with this flashback sequence. Jerid's going to mock the shit out of Kamille for wetting himself though.>>23693224>250 vs 250 MSKino. Good luck anon
>>23693240I surrounded Jaburo on turn 50 or so, but wanted Bernie so I had to wait until after 90.
>>23693231>>23693236>>23693240Kamille just formed a psychic bridge between Leila, himself, and Four. Leila's past and memories are going to be completely open to Kamille and Four. I'm betting from now on after this the three of them will be inseperable a true unit together.
>>23693253Now that's what i'm talking about, mistakes into miracles :')
>>23693248I wanted to kill myself 120 vs 140 at Side 3.
>>23693231lmao just knock himself out as well, i wonder what Jerid or Fa's reactions are going to be.
>>23693231I DID want to find out what would happened if Leila was pinched. Kamille has a psychic link and all.I'm theorizing the pinch effects got reflected on our commander
>>23693261Yeah, anything over like 60 on each side can really make the fights feel like slogs.
>>23693243Kamille didn't piss himself. He pissed on leila and four (assuming he fell on top of both)A chad move if i've ever seen one.
>>23693271Just stack MAPW units behind screens and turn the enemy into a pile of ashes.
>>23693271yeah, 30 units is about my preferred speed. 50 is still fun and manageable every once in a while. I absolutely hated taking Side 3 and Garden of Thorns because of how many units I had to manage. It made me wish for a quick and easy autoplay feature to just flick on after moving the important units the way I needed to.
>>23693277You can set units to AI control and/or have entire battles be auto controlled, the AI is just suicidally bad and will do stuff like have carriers attack at range 1.
>>23693248Anon, you can keep a territory hostage by leaving one after an assault and waiting, preventing them from producing a fuckhuge army like that.
>>23693259Worst case scenario Leila's instability and insanity turns Kamille and Four into murderous retards who only want power. Like when Kamille slept with Leila and got his men killed when liberating Murasame labs. Best case scenario Kamille and Four are actually able to soothe Leila. Leading to the wayward Cyber Newtype calming down and not acting so bratty and vicious.I think there's a good chance for the better outcome or a version of it to happen. Kamille's influence with Four is as high as it can be given our options. If I remember correctly the influence level was 3/5 or 4/5. And Kamille's been entertaining Leila's desires, saving Beltorchika's life and sending her to Jamitov. So it should be possible for all three to understand eachother.
>>23693283It turned out to be mostly Tin Cods and Saberfish with Proto Gundams peppered in as well. Actually pretty trivial given I went in with Dabudes loaded up with Gelgoogs, Dom Cannons, and a few Perfect Zeongs.
>>23693243But who is going to get Kamille his tendies in this kind of relationship?
>>23693295Also>Quattro can just steal Lalah away for the AEUG if you let them fight each otherWHAT THE FUCK
>>23693231Jerid must be just gawking at this point.
>>23693275That both depends on the faction and when in their campaign you are. Also, I just find most map weapon options kind of boring.
>>23693231"NT-001". Not a human, not a Newtype, but an extension of Zeon's efforts to rapidly expand its Psychommu weapons research into creating an army of mindless, obedient drones that would be capable of synchronizing with an exceedingly advanced Newtype. Baring witness to the block on Leila's mind being lifted, Kamille witnesses the process of her being dehumanized by the Flanagan Institute, with the Federation continuing the process following the labs liquidation. Trapped as a nameless, mindless husk bound not to a person, but to the data of the long dead Lalah Sune, Layla would only receive a brief moment of salvation from a young Cyber Newtype rebelling against the Federation. >Zero: Zeon and the Federation are no different! They will just use us as slaves, replacing us when we are worthless to their uses! Dehumanizing us, all while crying about the atrocities of one another!With Zero, Leila would recover part of her lost self. As for what had been permanently lost, the void of her torn away personality would be filled by Zero's desires. The desire to reform the world, and to terminate all of sources of what had allowed for Newtypes to be weaponized. From this union, the two would become bonded to the point of being unable to exist with one another, the same curse Zeon had inflicted on Leila now being passed onto Zero Murasame. Even as he is is knelt before Jamitov Hymen in the moments before his death, Zero's final thoughts of Leila being spared the shame of again being dehumanized fills the woman with his scorn and hatred for the "Oldtypes" who had damned them to such a cruel fate. As Zero's life would end, he would flow back into the nexus of tormented souls unable to pass on, with those same souls being bound to an entity from the place Zero's humanity had been torn from him...the Murasame Labs.>Kamille: (Why even go this far? These emotions...did she adopt them from that guy?)
>>23693429From within the psychic tempest he finds himself trapped within, Kamille finds both Leila and Four's essences being joined by a connective, yet repulsing influence. Reaching out for the two Cyber Newtypes, Kamille feels himself being forcefully drawn towards both of them. >Leila?: (Kamille is our hope...the one who will bring an end to the world that stole our futures. The one who can destroy...that Gundam.)Broken memories flow onto Four and Kamille, with a desire that had been held by Zeon, and Zero Murasame being revealed. The power to defeated the White Devil. The power that if acquired, would grant its wielder the means to shift the future of humanity. >Four?: (You...seek to fight someone that strong? If we can defeat them...we would be-)Emerging from the ethereal void, a mass of spirits resembling the figure of a massive, black Gundam towers above the wayward spirits of Kamille, Leila and Four. >Kamille: Snap out of it, both of you! Floating in front of the seemingly malevolent force, Kamille is enveloped by its influence, finding himself shrouded in endless darkness.>???: [OUR REBIRTH SHALL COME-YOU SHALL BE OUR BEACON-YOU SHALL BE THE PROPHET OF OUR ASCENSION]>Kamille: Go back to your world of darkness! Whatever you are, leave Leila and Four->???: [OUR EXISTENCE WILL HAVE MEANING-THE ONES WHO STOLE OUR LIVES WILL CEASE-WE SHALL PROSPER. YOU SHALL BE THE ARK OF OUR REBIRTH-]Springing awake, Kamille finds himself in a medical bed, his body coated in a thick sheen of stress induced sweat. >Medical Officer: Try to be calm, Commander. You suffered a minor stroke back in the hangar->Kamille: Leila! Four!! Where are they?! >Medical Officer: They suffered a nearly identical case to your own. Unlike you though, their readings have both been stable. We had to stabilize your vitals nearly six times in the last three days->Kamille: Three days?! We...were out that long?
>>23693461oh yeah the out for three days side affect thing, i forgot all about that.who else forgot all about that?uh oh, how the fuck is the war doing now?
>>23693461>Even when the Murasame labs were reduced to rubble and every single scientist in it was killed, the Psycho Gundam newtype ghosts STILL haunt our runTHEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
>>23693473Luckily all the ghost have done is encouraged this version of Four to be Waku Waku fight lover instead of jaded genocide vessel. From the sounds of it Zero had a bit of this thing in him and passed it over to Leila. If she is just an empty vessel it confirms this thing is what is getting her to act so shitty.
>>23693461>>23693473>Going for both has led to psycho gundam plaguing us AGAIN
>>23693461>>23693473>>23693479The funny thing here is that the Psycho Ghost Gundam here might actually be the lesser of two evils or actually benevolent this run.Remember threads ago when Lila died she was having visions of Amuro throwing humanities future into darkness for Mineva Zabi. Amuro himself is holding dark secrets and gathering a group of allies to try and assassinate Jamitov. While the AEUG itself is brutal and violent, not caring about civilian casualties, and even commiting atrocities like gassing Ayers City. And here we have this Dark Gundam entity talking of gaining the power to destroy the White Devil and change humanities future.
>>23693429Lalah was truly a blight on the UC timeline.
>>23693484This is cope btw
>>23693503The spirit is described as connective and "seemingly malevolent" meaning that it only appears malicious. There's something more happening here than the standard "psycho Gundam spirit wants to genocide everyone" trope we've all come to know and love. The thing doesn't seem evil, just a spirit seeking justice and way to be reborn into the cycle of life and death.
>>23693513Psycho Gundam hands typed this post.
>>23693513I don't care who the Labs send, I am not building the Psycho Gundam!
>>23693513>The vengeful spirits of the dead surely won't betray us THIS time.
>>23693513You mean like how Getter appeared to Ryouma and Saotome as Musashi to tell them it was totally cool to bring forth the Getter Emperor and consume all of creation? Don't worry about it, it'll work out this time.
>>23693461>Augusta: Makes cyborgs and does some mind control>Murasame: Spawns an evil Old God that won’t ever fuck offIs the Psycho Gundam just asking us to blow up the labs and breed the damned souls back into the living world? Cause we have Fa and can get it done with her. Maybe Four. Leila can watch from the couch in the corner.
>>23693552>Shameless Getter slanderD*nosaur hands wrote this post
>>23693559Four is too WAKU WAKU pilled to understand what breeding means. She probably genuinely believes it's just wrestling.
>>23693566Going to need to pump that endurance to recover from that broken pelvis coming up.
>>23693559Fa is for Jerid now bro, sorry, that ship sailed...
>>23693560>The eldritch hivemind surely won't fuck us over this time
>>23693295I mean shit anon, if you were attacking with Perfect Zeongs of course you won. 250 Gundams probably couldn't have held Jaburo.
>>23693513Man we treated Psycho Gundam with kid gloves last Titans run and it still almost lobotomized everyone
>>23693461>Psycho Gundam fucking us in yet another run>EVEN IF IT WASN'T EVEN FINISHED IN THIS TIMELINE IN THE FIRST PLACEGet me the fuck out of this run, please.
Death, taxation, and Psycho Gundam.
I don’t understand why you people jump to Psyco Gundam, instead of the more obvious conclusion of interdimensional Lalah trying to influence us. Am I missing something?
>>23693862honestly the difference between psycho gundam and lalah in copy runs is extremely thin on average.
>>23693461>Bask: Why?! We could have him arrested and executed without resistance from the Federation, so why are you hesitating?! You are giving the Federation far to much credit, Excellency...such an opportunity may never come to us so easily again unless we-Lord Jamitov! Bask's grip tightens around the phone in his hand, his barely contained rage nearly boiling into his words to Jamitov as he calms himself.>Bask:...I understand. Our forces are prepared to occupy China once the bill is signed. I take it there will be no resistance to that? Very good...Ending the call, Bask has a private message sent to one of his loyalist in Dakar, along with readying a false profile on an labeled "extremist" to be used as a scapegoat. >Bask: (I win, Blex.)Concluding his private talks with Bask, Jamitov steps out from his private office to speak with Beltorchika again, finding her watching over the last Senatorial gathering on the rooms television.>Beltorchika:...For a politician, you were oddly sloppy out there today. >Jamitov Loyalist: Watch your mouth->Jamitov: I would have expected you to be more perceptive. Is that what you truly think?>Beltorchika:...You were intentionally allowing your own political allies to corner themselves? You want Blex to speak openly, don't you?>Jamitov: It would certainly clear the fog of who will have use to my cause. >Beltorchika: You have to know there are people in your own ranks who would never allow his views to be heard->Jamitov: It has already been taken care of.>Beltorchika:...Are you in control? Truly? >Jamitov: What are you implying?>Beltorchika: If Blex is harmed in any way, everything you are planning will collapse. >Jamitov: Which is why such an outcome will not happen.
>>23693895The AEUG's gamble to recapture Side 5 is quickly thwarted, with a task force being lead by Alpha A. Bait and Chap Adel pushing them from the Colonies, while Bernard Monsha maintains a sizeable fleet outside of Zedan. Konpei, which had been the planned spearhead of the AEUG's offensive against Gryps 2 and Luna II, would also shortly fall into the Titans hands due to the savage leadership of Yazan Gable. Battered and demoralized, the AEUG's forces retreat for Zedan and the Moon, readying themselves for a battle to the death against the Titan's armada's. [Solomon and Side 5 have been recaptured]Onboard Kamille's Alexandria, he learns that in his absence that Jerid had taken Command over the vessel, quickly gaining favor with its crew through his natural charisma and stories of his battles on the Moon. Arriving on the bridge of the Alexandria, Kamille finds Jerid arguing to be authorized to initiate an occupation of Von Braun City, with Scirocco requesting him to remain patient from a communication line. >Jerid: I can do it! With that new beam launcher, we can annihilate anything the AEUG can send at us!>Scirocco: Ah, it appears the rightful Captain of that ship has finally returned. Turning to find Kamille standing outside the bridge, Jerid signals for the communication line to be cut as he approaches the young Newtype.>Jerid: You have a good nap? Been covering your job since you got knocked out cold by a couple of girls->Fa: P-pardon me. Slipping past Kamille with a nervous expression, Fa brings a cup of coffee to Jerid, with the Titan giving Kamille a taunting look as he takes a sip from the cup.>Jerid: Oh, did you want one? Going to need all hands on deck for attacking Von Braun->Kamille: You bastard. Did you force Fa into->Jerid: I understand you are good friends. A shame you couldn't have stopped her from ending up with the AEUG. >Kamille: Fa, you were with->Fa: Jerid, stop trying to start a fight. Please-
>>23693862>Am I missing something?Context from prior runs. Also, the fact it takes the form of the Psycho Gundam in Kamille's mindscape.
>>23693908KEKED
>>23693908>Jerid: I came to a realization while fighting on the Moon. There are those who in space who are just citizens of Earth living in a new environment...and then there are Spacenoids. Citizens want to do their part. Citizens want to make things better for the government that is protecting them. They appreciate what the Titans are doing. Spacenoids are people who had become so demented, they don't want to even consider themselves part of the same species as the rest of us. See, Fa is an example of someone who wants to earn her place. People get confused every now and then, but it's the responsibility of men like me to set people straight. Separate humanity from the Spacenoids->Kamille: Has he hurt you at all, Fa?!>Fa: N-no, Kamille...anything he has done, I deserved->Kamille: Son of a bitch->Jerid: You may wear that uniform, but you aren't much different from that Scirocco guy. You serve the Titans, you hold rank, but you don't believe in the cause. Plenty of your crew can see that->Sarah: Lieutenant Messa. Stepping out from behind Kamille, Sarah stands firmly as she gives Fa a cold look, causing her to shrink behind Jerid's figure.>Sarah: I would advise you not to slander Major Paptimus. Commander, a moment? Gently grabbing Kamille's wrist, Sarah leads Kamille out from the bridge, with Fa maintaining a meek posture to not be chastised again for her relationship to Kamille. In one of the unoccupied rooms, Sarah outlines a special order from Scirocco.>Kamille: He wants me to capture a new machine? >Sarah: Master Paptimus believes this Mobile Suit is finally in a state that is ready for your uses. I had volunteered to acquire it, but he was insistent that it would be tailored for your uses->Kamille: Why do the AEUG have it then? Wait...he isn't talking about the Zeta Gundam, is he?! Sarah outlines a plan to Kamille, with her having access to Anaheim's private R&D facility through Scirocco's resources.
>>23693921The plan would have Sarah and Kamille infiltrate the facility, with Kamille using the opportunity to capture the incomplete Zeta Gundam. Rather than destroying the facility however, Scirocco would prefer for Kamille's combat data with the Zeta Gundam to be taken by Anaheim, for them to continue designing future variants of the machine. As for why Scirocco would desire such a thing, Sarah is unable to say. Aware that going through with this plan would leave the Alexandria in Jerid's hands, Kamille makes a decision...>What plan will Kamille take regarding the planned invasion of the moon?https://strawpoll.com/GPgVYM69Ana
>>23693928Authority compromised, Four can't 'take command' again (not sure if she's awake or not), and Kamille's data being left behind likely means more infiltration and capture missions in the future at a glance.
>>23693928>[Follow the plan to capture the Zeta Gundam-allow Jerid to Command]Jerid is already getting too cozy with our crew. This is a really bad idea.>[Follow the plan to capture the Zeta Gundam-have Jerid detained]The option I like but Jerid will probably bitch and say it was without cause. Could make the crew mutiny if they really like him.>[Send Sarah and Jerid to capture the Zeta Gundam]Fuck no don't let Jerid take the Zeta. He will fuck off and not give it to us.>[Send Sarah alone to capture the Zeta Gundam]Likely to fail, though maybe this is a roll and the AI will flake.>[Refuse the plan]Means we won't get the Zeta. We could really use the Zeta. We could then give Leila our Super Gundam and Four the Black Gundam.
>>23693928I say just go get the GundamIn practice it will be worth the risk, we need to get off the super Gundam by now, at the end of the day Jerid was likely recognized for his natural leadership ability, we need to focus on that Gundam so Kamille can be unstoppable
>>23693928>Let Jerid win over your crew and ntr your ship, get the Zeta Gundam>Destroy what relationship you might be able to recover with Jerid completely and make him your enemy, get the Zeta Gundam>Give Jerid the Zeta Gundam>AEUG keeps the Zeta Gundam. Sarah dies or gets captured, double loss of points with Scirocco.>Let the AEUG keep the Zeta Gundam. Point loss with Scirocco.Which way, space man?
>>23693937>>23693935Welp let's just get the Zeta and let Jerid have his stupid ship and crew, Zeta is far more valuable to us than any of that.Who knows, maybe He'll like us for it, but I'm not doing it for him.
>>23693937>>23693934Just get the Zeta Gundam, worrying about petty shit with Jerid when our main suit is right there is stupid
>>23693934>>23693937Getting the Zeta and letting Jerid command is the optimal choice. He seems more stable here, and if we really want to reconcile with Jerid then trusting him with the Alexandria while we steal the AEUG's new mobile suit will probably help smooth things over. Jerid has a natural charisma and when he's not ragepigging he's a very competent leader, as opposed to the relatively anti-social Kamille.Following Scirocco's plan will likely net us points with Sarah, Scirocco, Jerid, and give us the Zeta at the cost of being the captain of the Alexandria basically in name only. Werd.
>>23693943>>23693942I don't want us getting forced into one of Jerid's tard runs when he inevitably decides to leeroy jenkins into the entire AEUG, which will happen if he takes command of our ship. The enemy AI's been retarded so far but we can't expect that to continue forever.
>>23693945I feel like that ship might've sailed the moment we decided to tard wrangle our own newtype girls.
>>23693945Which will happen if any AI takes command of our ship* ftfyJerid sperging out is a result of Copy justifying the AI's actions, not the other way around.
>>23693945Even if he did that, well be fucking zeta Gundam, Kamille could unironically do that with Jerid and be unstoppable if he wanted to
>Jerid arguing to be authorized to initiate an occupation of Von Braun CityFirst time Jerid got a ship he kamikazed it into Granada. Now he is openly contemplating a suicide mission with a ship that isn't his to begin with.If we let him commandeer our ship, he will run it into Lunar ground with all hands on deck.
Maybe Kamille and Jerid need to be prodded by the ghost of Lila and voted into directions where they cooperate (even if indirectly) and play to their strengths. I say let Jerid command while Kamille takes the Zeta.
>>23693956Again I feel like if we wanted to punch things out with Jerid, not KOing ourselves over our bitches would've been the ideal time to do that.
>>23693948>>23693956>>23693945Kamille in the zeta Gundam is literally worth the risk, unless you want to piss off scirocco by sending Jerid(who will blow up the facility) or randomly jail jerid and piss him and the crew off just go get the Gundam
>>23693969Stop trying to force a fake dichotomy. Kamille can go and get Zeta, and Jerid can be consigned to the brig. Both can happen at the same time, there's explicitly an option for that.
>>23693977Retard, I already said you could put him in the brig, which would piss him off and especially piss the crew off who the narration notes that actually likes jerid because you’re literally jailing him for nothing
>>23693978Retard, I already said Jerid is planning a suicide mission by occupying Von Braun with a single ship. By preemptively locking him up we are saving our whole squad.
>>23693980And what will you do when the ship commits mutiny because they clearly like Jerid more than us?
>we actually have self sabotaging retards who want to antagonize jerid further or even abandon the ZetaOh my zeon zum deikun
>>23693982And what will you do when the ship doesn't commit mutiny because you misinterpret that one line? What will you do when Jerid fly our Alexandria into a deathtrap with Leila, Four, Fa and Sydle onboard.
>>23693982b-but u see anon if i throw him in jail then everyone will listen to me again :c
>>23693985>misinterpret that one line>t. the dumb faggot misinterpreting one line and doomposting about it to make us commit the 2nd most retarded decision available
>>23693985>misinterpretTell me how am I supposed to interpret> Onboard Kamille's Alexandria, he learns that in his absence that Jerid had taken Command over the vessel, quickly gaining favor with its crew through his natural charisma and stories of his battles on the MoonPlease let me know how there’s going to be no problems with demoting/detaining jerid by force(because he’s not going to agree) then just leaving the ship with the NT girls and Jerid there
>>23693985You're wrong, but even if you were 100% correct it'd still be worth it because we can just shift all the blame onto Jerid and walk away unmoored from Psycho Trash with the Zeta.
>>23693943I agree. The only concern I have regarding this is that only Sydle and Leila would be available to defend the ship. Maybe Four if she gets cleared for duty (give her the MK2 perhaps?)Otherwise there's no real downsides here. Jerid sperging out is a result of the AI (and that can very much happen even if he's detained) and even if he does, ideally it's him going out in the Hyaku Shiki so that's an extra (really really good) body fighting out there. If we're going to start gaining influence with him and others, we have to take the risk.
>>23693997If we give Fourllenby the Mk II we'd need to strip off the G-Defenser due to it being an absolutely terrible range 1 unit while Four is a meleestacy. But yeah. I think we need to stick our neck out for this one, otherwise we're going to keep sinking our relationships for minimal gain.
>>23693998honestly even if we don't gain relationship shit from it, we're getting the zeta.
>>23693997It's been the same three days for the three Newtypes, so maybe Four and Leila will wake up midbattle at latest? I hope so anyway.
>>23693928Get the Zeta, let Jerid command temporarily. He is a bit calmer right now. We need to be the bigger man and not just arrest him for nothing, that's a Jamaican move.This job is too important to let someone else do it for us.The crew likes Jerid, fine, let them like him. We need that Zeta. Though he is being coy about it, Scirocco would clearly rather work with us as captain than Jerid, he can help keep things under control.God damn it, we need to stop losing consciousness. First Bask, now this. We have had our influence sharply curtailed twice because we were knocked out and got taken advantage of. At least AEUG are starting to fall apart in space.No doubt some other disaster will fuck us over as a result of this. We need to buckle the fuck up and deal with it. With that Zeta, we can beat almost anyone. Leaving Jerid to take command might cost us... it might cost us a lot, because he has still learned nothing. But I still prefer it to locking him up and permanently ruining our relationship.
I don't understand why the idea of following the plan and letting Jerid command is driving people mad. Kamille will get his rightful Zeta Gundam to pilot and earn some relationship points with Sarrah, Scirocco, and Jerid. And wasn't the whole point of meeting up with Jerid to befriend and become his ally? It's not like Jerid will be able to do anything crazy while Kamille's gone either. Sydle and Four would reel him in if he tried anything insane, while Kamille's mission should be short. Grabbing the Zeta and getting out pronto.
>>23694013It's most likely the same 1 int chimp who got made fun of for his previous vote too.
I'm going to opt to just let Jerid take command while we do the mission. The only person who works for Kamille I'm actually worried about is Four and she's still injured so she can't be sent out and explode on any of Jerid's escapades. Honestly if Jerid goes and does something stupid with the ship we just got full of generic mooks we don't especially care about and gets Leila killed that's a good thing at this point damned be the mental anguish Kamille will suffer.
>>23694019Nope. This >>23694010 is me, the "1 int chimp" as you obsessively say. By the way, there's every chance that us falling unconscious was solely caused by pinching Leila, seeing as this didn't happen with Four previously and we only have the mind merge with Leila.
>>23694035I don't believe you, your CHA is 1 too.Also, it's just as likely to be a result of trying to use it on two newtypes at the same time. Hostility becomes tangible between newtypes in conflict, so it could be like grabbing a livewire.
>>23693934>>23693945>>23693977>Letting Jerid take command is retarded>intentionally sabotaging our already very low numbers by getting rid of our best aces in the middle of us getting one of the most important MSes this run all because "He'll do a suicide charge!"Even putting aside the fact we can potentially mend our shitty relationship with Jerid, why the fuck wouldn't I want all hands on deck for stealing the Zeta? It's like burning all the food I have in a bonfire just because someone I don't like manufactured it.
>>23694064(me)I also just realized this but anons are WAY too wrapped up in the potential future to worry about the NOW. The thread meme of "Copy gives us rope to hang ourselves later" has led to anons just thinking purely about the future when current circumstances would have it so that our only crew is Sydle/Sarah/Kamille/Four/Leila while losing Jerid who's a rather solid ace.
Jerid isn’t our enemy. Let’s trust him with the ship, even if just for a while, and go get our machine.
Zeta, my beloved. Jerid, you go flirt with Fa by the coffee machine, I'll be back in time for dinner.
>>23693928Following Jerid certainly means trying to destroy Anaheim on the moon, which is fine. If we can't have the ZZ, ZII, or Plus solely for our faction, then terminating the Zeta line is the smartest move. The original already fell into enemy hands thanks to our buddy Scirocco, so fuck him too for playing both sides.
>>23694121Really seems like Scirocco just let them build it for him since he probably couldn’t do it on his own ship and probably didn’t want the titans to fuck up design
All or nothing. Either send Kamille to get the Zeta and leave Jerid in charge, or don't send anyone and sort things out with Leila and Four at home instead.
>>23694121>already planning for ZZ eraWe need to survive Zeta first anon. You are way way jumping the gun here. What exactly would you have us take into the Zeta endgame? How are we going to fight people like Azul, Quattro, Haman, Scirocco, etc. all in top tier suits, plus whatever new shit Copy can cook up to face us? This Super Gundam is already starting to fall behind. There are grunts flying around in Byarlants. We need something that can carry us through the rest of the war and basically guarantee we are always better in a 1v1 fight.
I am just here for the Amuro/Haman/Char threesome.
>>23694216>hamanfaggingHopeless
>>23694219Telling me not to Hamanfag is like telling a fish not to swim I am sorry.
>>23694205I'm not planning for 0088. Anaheim is an AEUG ally; they're not our development centers. What can we produce for the end of Zeta? Nemos, Byarlants, Barzams, Xekus, and the rest of the Federation tree. We're going to take Kamille's Zeta Gundam. Scirocco is asking us not to blow up the factories on the moon and to hand over our combat data to our enemies so they can create the rest of the Zeta line, which would be absolutely retarded.
Went with option 1, detaining Jerid seems like we will end up hanging ourselves and sending only Sarah will probably result in a failed mission. Sending Jerid will probably result in him disregarding the plan if something of interest pops up for him.We need Fa to baby trap Jerid and hope it causes him to chills out.
>>23693928Voting to follow the plan and detain Jerid. I have zero faith in Jerid after that moron got Gady killed and had the gall to try to blame Kamille for it without feeling any guilt. He has learned nothing from the fiasco, continues to insult and treat Kamille like shit and was scheming to seize control over the ship while Kamille was out, he's practically a liability and an enemy at this point.
>>23694243You're not thinking rational whatsoeverif you're leaving then leave Jerid in charge, if you're not then don't pursue the Zetawhat makes you people think Jerid is going to stay in the brig for no reason?
>>23694247I considered that before voting and I'm perfectly fine with that happening. If Jerid really is dumb enough to leave the brig and mutiny we'd have casus belli to put him down and be done with his annoying subplot.
>>23694247Adding onto this. If Kamille's Alexandria is attacked it'll need Jerid to defend it. We don't know if Leila or Four are awake yet. So if Kamille and Sarah leave it'll just be Sydle protecting the ship. Like it or not if we want to get the Zeta we'll need Jerid in command to watch over the ship and crew. He's one of the few Titans on par with Kamille's combat level.
>>23694253Kamille and Sarah are infiltrating Anaheim, not attacking it. Jerid is the one who will order the ship into battle to destroy AEUG facility.
>>23694259>>23694250Even if Jerid literally does nothing they can still be attacked, you're just being jamaican right now
>>23694264That's an IF. Jerid WILL make his move towards Von Braun. Scirocco was trying to talk him out of it and not very subtly hinted that the ship wasn't his to risk.
>>23694228Fa being his water cooler gf already seems to have made him chill a little. He probably busted a nut in her sometime over the past three days, which is why he has come to the distinction he has about spacenoids and citizens.
>>23694271>he doesn't know how the ai worksIF Kamille takes long enough to get the Zeta AEUG AI WILL send troops to try and retake the colony they just lost, why are we pretending there isn't a game being ran here?
>>23694275Because he's one of the ~20 or so newfags that showed up over the past few strawpolls and hasn't copped onto the realization that Copy X writes around what the game's AI does for the most part instead of modding the game to suit our choices.
>>23694275IF AEUG AI wants to counterattack immediately, and IF it chooses Side 2 over Side 5 and Solomon, and IF Copy allows this narrative event to progress this long, and IF Copy doesn't allow the remaining crew to retreat.How many more IFs you want to add over a certain WILL?
>>23694259>>23694271It doesn't matter if Jerid wants to attack Von Braun or make a move against AEUG he wouldn't have any pilots to help him. Four and Lalah are still sleeping, Sydle would refuse to help because Scirocco said not to, and I'm sure Jerid wouldn't shove Fa into a Mobile Suit to help him fight. So it'd just be him and his Hyaku Shiki against a army.Yes Jerid was throwing himself into battle without regards for others before. Leila forcefully broke him out of that psychosis though.
>>23694283>a certain WILL>...in my head
I think Jerid ramming Kamille's ship into the facility whilst we infiltrate it is a totally valid concern. And besides, I'm not sure it's worth it to steal a proto-zeta only to also hand over combat data when asked. Like the Zeta's great, but that's a huge gamble, one that could see us just helping out AEUG/Axis massively.
>>23694283>IF it chooses Side 2 over Side 5 and SolomonAI in this game can and will attack multiple places at once if it believes it has the forces to do it
>>23694286Jerid likely won't ram the ship because Fa is there, people won't really admit it but Gady died because he underestimated AEUG, even if Jerid played conservative he literally would not be able to bodyblock for Gady's defenseless ship.>Gady:[I have no intentions of allowing any of them to leave Side 2 alive, Lieutenant. Commander Bidan, I request that your forces flank the AEUG's forces, cutting them off from escaping.]>Kamille: If we do that, your ship would be left completely open if something went wrong. Even if the AEUG were to run, taking these Colonies would be more than enough to weaken their-It is Gady's attempt to secure a no AEUG left alive scenario that led to his death when he could've just stayed behind
>>23694286The combat data Scirocco was talking about was whatever AEUG had saved from its construction and the recordings they'll get from Kamille stealing the machine. Biosensor readings too probably. That'd be a boon to Scirocco and later Kamille as the biosensor data would help create The O and other machines the pair would want to create. Not to mention AEUG will make more designs we can steal later. Jerid has the Hyaku Shiki beam launcher somehow after all.
>>23694285No reason to believe Jerid won't make good on his word to attempt to occupy Von Braun.>>23694288IF. Or the AI could think it doesn't have enough forces and spend the next turn or two rebuilding. This is a narrative event, it's completely up to Copy how long it takes. It could be ten turns or none.
>>23694297perfect then, if it takes none then there's no reason to worry about Jerid you ape, he can't even reach Von Braun in one turn.Its one ship and small group of mobile suits, they will not need to build much to attack Side 2
>>23694286It sounds like their should be a Jerid riding an alexandira-class(nuke) meme at this point
>>23694286"It's not worth stealing the protagonist mech in a gundam, let alone one that's been built up from the start"Dude.
>>23694298More IFs. I will pick that over WILL that you cannot refute.
>>23694297>No reason to believe Jerid won't make good on his word to attempt to occupy Von Braun.The fact that he's even asking for permission means he's waiting you know
>>23694309"I will pick the safest option" has been fucking us over for years now you absolute troglodyte. It's an actual meme of us going back to the "Safe" option after we commit to something.
>>23694314People thought Gady's plan was the safe, 'rational' option too and that got him killed
>>23694317Ironically, punching was probably the second safest option after doing nothing. Defusing internal tensions is always a conservative strategy.
>>23694317These people actually think we can afford throwing away any aces we have when we have nothing and can afford nothing. It's insane especially since we came here to make amends with Jerid.
>>23694307>No you see Kamille shouldn't go get the one suit he's the best at using that would terrorize our enemies using early gryps suits still
>>23694333But Jerid has been nothing but a big meanie to kamille, i say we do a 360 and walk away from that compromise
In the end, reason and testosterone won out. Jerid's going to creampie Fa while the Alexandria spins its wheels, and Kamille is going to go steal the machine he built.
>>23694418>gonna creampie faabuse wins again, truly the Tomino way
>>23694418My guess is that Kamille and Sarah are gonna end meeting Mezun and a bunch of other AEUG characters in this Zeta jack operation. Since Mezun was the one who was picked by AEUG to pilot it. Higher ups like the Grey Wolf and Wong are a possibility too. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Kamille just beat Wong to death this run? As the Alexandria I imagine they'll get attacked or disrupted somehow which will force Fa into action and into piloting a mobile suit. If that's the case she'll absolutely jump into the Super Gundam since it Kamille's machine.Also this operation is just Titans Kamille version of when Kamille got the Zeta and met Sarah who was spying on the moon in the anime.
Titans Fa
>>23694668FUCK I POSTED THE WRONG ONE
>>23694444Yet some how less abusive than how Mezun and the boys who just threw her in the kitchen. I'm very curious how their relationship will turn out.What are the chance's Bel stops Blex's assassination?
>>23694670Who made this picture?
>>23694418I hope Jerid lets us watch when we come back
>>23694670hnnng
>>23694753Jerids gonna be envious of the sweet new mobile suit Kamille will be ridin in. As soon as the braggart gets a new toy the autist shows him up with something cooler.
>>23694683Ah, found it. Sadly their is no gen 1 titan uniform pic. Titans should of gotten into merchandising they would have made a killing.
>>23694418>Steal? No, no. I'm taking it back.
>>23694418It would almost be funny to see how quickly Sarah would fuck up the mission doing this on her own
>>23694784>Zeta at home >>23694753
"Haha, it's funny that watching a bad show makes Mist go insane! *dabs*"
>>23694807I know everyone likes to joke about Jerid boning Fa and all that but I genuinely don't think they've done the deed yet. Fa's being all submissive and demure but she doesn't seem to be in love with him. While Jerid's just saying shit to make Kamille mad. Fa's just a lucky happenstance to make that easier. As for what Jerid did to Fa, I think that's just referring to how he knocked her out and took her from Granada. And then drafted her in the Titans whether she wanted to or not. I don't think Jerid would force himself on Fa, especially given her gently nature. On the other hand though Fa and Jerid are gonna be shocked when they realize the depths of Kamille and Leila's relationship. Kamille and Leila have done the deed twice now, tend to enter murder rampages together when fighting the enemy, and are connected by the spirits of the dead. Fa's probably already thinking that Kamille replaced her with a girl that's capable and submissive. While Jerid's already a little freaked out by how Leila is a Lila replacement and was literally in his head.
>>23695245yeah i was kinda looking forward to their thoughts more about this but we KO'd ourselves.Eh maybe later tho.
>>23695245>I know everyone likes to joke about Jerid boning Fa and all that but I genuinely don't think they've done the deed yet. Fa's being all submissive and demure but she doesn't seem to be in love with him. While Jerid's just saying shit to make Kamille mad. Fa's just a lucky happenstance to make that easier.As for what Jerid did to Fa, I think that's just referring to how he knocked her out and took her from Granada. And then drafted her in the Titans whether she wanted to or not. I don't think Jerid would force himself on Fa, especially given her gently nature.It was mostly a joke but we don't really know much about Jerid's and Fa's relationship besides Jerid abducting her from the AEUG kitchen. Along with what little we've seen of her now, which she seems to be Jerid's aide/secretary. she also tries to defuse Jerid when he is being stupid. She didn't seem happy being stuffed into the AEUG kitchen from what i remember.
>>23695245I was somewhat joking about it but really, Kamille's relationship with Leila and Four - not even just how it looks, but even more so how it really is - would probably drive Fa closer to Jerid regardless of any other circumstance.
>>23695292>>23695262>>23695245not gonna lie I really don't care for all this faggy relationship stuff. I'm only here for the strategy, battle stuff, and mono-eyes
>>23695326Thanks Yazan. You have always been a good friend.
>>23695326The battle aren't very interesting without the character relationships. Without the relationships, Amuro sinking in that submarine wouldn't have ended the run.>>23695328Even Yazan has a bromance with his Wingmen and gets really upset when they're killed.
>>23695254>>23695292We'll probably see more of Jerid and Fa's thoughts when Kamille leaves to steal the Zeta. Fa will probably go to talk to Leila or Four alone, whoever wakes up first, while Jerid is busy commanding. Talking to them to see how Kamille's changed and his relationship with them. Though with the collective stroke the three had who knows how Four and Leila will act when they wake up. I don't think Jerid will go out of his way to talk to Leila and Four. They probably just weird him out. Leila might try and bug him again though.
>>23695245I was being facetious with it, but it is basically a classic netori scenario where Kamille loses Fa to Jerid because of his own actions putting Fa at the bottom rung of his priorities consistently while Jerid, for his faults, at least keeps Fa somewhere close to the top. Top 3 at least, behind>Fucking spacenoids REEEEEand>KAMIYUUUUUUUU GRRRRRRI also think what we've seen of them together so far has been probably the most interesting alt-hist character twist since Amuro simped for minky momo strange.
>>23695442Watching fa calm jerid down from being a ragepig was kino. Also, ntr is Tomino's favorite genre.
>>23695455>uses [Persuade] on your qt 13.4 psychic brown gf>she joins his teamWdyd?
>>23695458I go to Axis and get the best pussy of my life there instead.
>>23695442>>23695455At this point Fa x Kamille is impossible. Kamille is a completely different person compared to when the story started and he found two women who'll always support him. While Fa was abandoned and later saved by a man who'll always give her attention. At this point the best thing that Kamille could do is accept that he and Fa aren't close anymore but have Jerid promise to always keep her safe. Kamille and Fa can't be lovers anymore, but they can still be friends and comrades. Honestly though the real person that got cucked was Mezun. He went through so much trouble to save Fa and smuggle her to the moon. Only for Fa to be kidnapped and willingly aid the man who took her away.
>>23695458Crash out and try to destroy the planet>>23695462Were only Char this rational
>>23695463>mezun mex gets cucked out of his smuggled bride>and now his new gundam tooTruly, the worst fate imaginable.
Quick question about Menace of Axis VWhat order should I play the main factions in if I want to play them from easiest to hardest?
>>23695501Titans>Zeon>Axis>EFSF>AEUG
>>23695490The upcoming Kamille and Mezun reunion is going to be legendary. Two teenagers from Green Noa both members of the karate club. Who both went onto become great pilots and leaders in their own rights. And when they meet again they'll be battling over their own prides, desires, and most importantly the Zeta Gundam.
>>23695501>from easiest to hardestJapanese wiki says Titans > EFF > Zeon > Axis > AEUG. I think EFF and Zeon are interchangeable.
>>23695532>>23695508EFF's start is so retarded that I automatically rate it harder than the rest.
>>23695559You basically have to know what you're doing already to not eat shit completely and will still probably wind up losing some significant territory. Especially if you're not using the /m/ system save.How your run goes depends completely on how fast you get operation /v/ and start mass producing gm's and proto gundams. In the long run, production of guncannons or guntanks just aren't worth it imo.
>>23695563What does the /m/ system save do?
>>23695568It's an ng+ save with all the routes already unlocked. This means that you get access to a couple of secret units to start out which makes the game easier; for example, Yazan and Lila are at Luna II with a Gaplant and Gabaldy. Yuu starts wtih BD-1, Shiro starts with Ez-8, and Karen starts with a Gundam Ground Type. South, Chap, Monsha, and Alpha also all start in GM Customs/GM Custom Cannon respectively, and you get 1 GM SK. That's not a whole lot but as opposed to having literally fucking nothing but tanks, saberfish and tin cods it makes defending your key territories (Luna II and Side 7, Jaburo, Torrington, and the sea passages) much more reasonable until you can start producing more mobile suits.
>>23695568In part 2, the Federation gets a lot of bonuses if you've beaten the game before - the /m/ save gets you all of that.
>>23695583That's all just available on Very Easy.
>>23695583That's on Very Easy, which is available from the beginning in the base game.>>23695584By the time you get to those you've pretty much beat the campaign.
>>23695590Doesn't everything outside of easy normal and hard require you to either beat the game (very hard) or get a legitimate loss ending (very easy)? Or am I thinking of another GG
>>23695599>Or am I thinking of another GGProbably.
>>23695599I think that's regular Menace of Axis.
>>23695508>>23695532>AEUG the hardestSo it wasn't just me.>can't get the good ending without staying in Argama mode>very easy to get knocked out of Argama mode early on>Argama mode takes all your good pilots away>start with barely anything on top of all of that
>>23695625You still have Yuu and some others at least
>>23695625The AEUG just has all the problems of a late start campaign and starts you on 2 territories. It forces you to play super aggressive in the early game while also needing you to avoid as many casualties as possible since if you run out of steam before you have most of space secured you just lose.
I don't get the fuss about Fa, Kamille might care about her and all but she always was the side bitch, the gf at home.Kamille not only has a woman, but 2. And i bet there's more to come. Leave some pussy for the rest, guys
>>23695685They just don't want Jerid to win at anything, that's all.
>>23695685People are still upset over thirsty jerid many runs back and historically jerid has been a mediocre investment
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>>23695685Fa is Kamille's childhood friend and they get together eventually in the anime. So Jerid laying claim to her this run is something completely new.
>>23695735>>23695719I won't debate jerid being a prime time jobber, but copy is making befriending him hard to test our resolve. That or punishing us for our decisions and this is all for naught. We did choose not to punch him earlier
>>23695805Fa is the literal girl next door and a safe choice. Though losing our safety net if kamille ends up retarded might bite us in the ass later
>>23695735>historically jerid has been a mediocre investmentPeople usually fuck up on their investment so Jerid does cool shit on his own like the amuro run we did before
>>23695808The problem is people either meta game Jerid or use "Logic" with choices involving him. Their is also people failing to understand Jerid as copy X writes him so they struggle to properly befriend him. Though sometimes anons make selfish decisions that they think are more important than him.
>>23695685What fuss? I only see people talking about their dynamic and it just seems to be out of interest and not something negative
>>23695836Hopefully we can manage our investment on Jerid and at least manage to have Kamille and him on good terms. If the two can actually work together and plan together they'd be unstoppable. Especially if Kamille gets Zeta Gundam, him and Jerid in the Hyaki Shiki would annihilate entire armies together.
>>23695914Nah I'd rather see him get mauled and come back as a lobotomized machine.
>>23694683artist is shampoorai on Pixiv
>>23695685fa is a good girl, she deserves much better than being jerids warbride/punching bag. I don’t want to add her to kamilles retard harem, I just want her to be safe and happy while jerid dies alone in space, hopefully soon
>>23696162>They just don't want Jerid to win at anything, that's all.
>Kamiyu acts like a shithead, creating negative situations for himself>How could (X) character do this to us??? Drop this plotline now./m/ is so autistic it's hilarious
>>23696312Low Information Voters just see Jerid be mean to Kamille and start screeching while forgetting that he begged us to help him tearfully after the girl we vowed to protect together kicked the bucket and then anons voted to ditch him for Scirocco.
>>23696314pretty much, yeah, like there was no way reconciling would be easy after kamille just shat all over him verbally when he showed vulnerability and reached out to him and then ditched jerid, leaving him holding the bags for jamaican to come shit on him twice as hard for.i actually think our most recent interaction was shockingly pleasant and a sign of progress
>>23696314You mean after the jobber king jerid jobbed and got the woman kamille loved killed, then asked us to be his underling in his jobber adventures? I am glad we ditched his bum ass, especially considering we managed to actually win on earth while jerid just got a bunch of people slaughtered in his moon jihad while accomplishing nothing and losing the space war. Then when we meet him again he disobeys orders and tries to steal our ship, fuck him.
>>23696314Man we have a war to win here, Kamille is the man most responsible for Total Karaba Death and even prevented AEUG evacuating their supplies into space AND got the Nemo schematics as bonuses. I want to be cool with Jerid too but it was the right choice to get off that ship when we did.
>>23696631>>23696641I think it’s unfair to ignore that jerid was being sabotaged by being too successful and he also acquired some tech for us as wellProbably what would have happened was having jerid and Kamille end up going to earth anyways
>>23696696Staying with the Alexandria was a saving throw for Kakricon more than anything I think. Similar to the choice of heading to Jaburo and joining Rosamia (for Buran and Ben).In any case, we'll never know but like you said, they'd likely have gone to Earth anyway. I doubt they'd have taken out Quattro either.
>>23696641>AND got the Nemo schematics as bonusesJerid got us the Hyaku Shiki, but actually now that I think about it, Jerid has already had experience sneaking into Anaheim, he probably wouldn't have been that bad of a choice, but glad Kamille and Sarah got sent
>>23696816>Jerid has already had experience sneaking into AnaheimActually it's probably great that we didn't send Jerid to Anaheim. He already raided it twice with the Ayers City Militia, so Jerid would probably be recognized if he did it a third time. Which would lead to him being immediately targeted and Mezun having a massive crashout. And of course if Jerid where to take the Zeta prototype he'll obviously want to keep it. Kamille and Sarah though should be able to keep a low profile. They're both young so they'll be able to disguise themselves as a couple or refugees. Kamille also has the bonus of not being infamous as Jerid. His actions as the Black Devil annihilating Karaba are well known, but no one has scene him the pilot. So no one except Mezun should even know or recognize who Kamille is. Of course Kamille designed the Zeta so he'll be able to use it perfectly, but since it's a prototype I wonder if it'll be modified in any way once Kamille gets it back to his Alexandria. Outside of it being painted completely black that is.
We need to mass produce the Barzamn only then can we kill the AEUG and Zeon
>>23696998What the faggot titans should have done instead was make a GM based off of the Mk-II to mass produce with compatible optional parts such as the g-defenser or a BWS to bridge the gap with transformable MSinstead they sunk inordinate amounts of manpower and money into developing a gajillion failed Zeon MS that never made it to production because they were pieces of shit and psycho nigger suits despite the fact that the federation largely won the OYW through high quality mass production.
>>23697037The Barzam basically is a mp version of the mk2. It's why things have done interchangeable versions with both
>>23697052In general the Titans were actually pretty good at keeping things consistent. They stuck with the Hizack and Marasai throughout before shifting towards the Barzam a couple months before the end with all being fairly modular with the equipment floating around. The kooky one-offs were either pet projects (pretty much anything Scirocco was involved with), Newtype Lab creations (the Psychos, Gaplant, Asshimar and Baund Doc) or 100% in-house (the Byarlant).And even some of the one-offs had enough success to warrant limited mass production (the Asshimar and Byarlant in particular).
>>23697108Funny enough the Asshimar wasn'tt made by the titans, though the titans sure loved to use it, the EFF made that suit
Where the Video game? It has been two days without an update.
>>23697138Copy is probably dealing with late holiday stuff or work. If he had a moment to let us know then it would've been done.
>>23697052>>23697108Since Franklin Bidan is dead I imagine Kamille is gonna have to pick up the slack and develop the Barzam. Maybe he'll get a flash of inspiration when he's working on the Zeta and MKII, similar to when he made the Zeta plans earlier in the run.
>>23697037Some sources seem to imply the GM III was a shelved titan's design. I assume since they wanted a proper next gen MS than a refit OYW ms that would lack core parts of the MK II. I also think a lot of those pet projects were already in development before the Gryps conflict broke out. EF won the OYW because behind every GM was a hundred balls.
>>23697198It's not a shelved Titans design, the GM III is basically a mass-produced Mk II, same as the Barzam. That's how you get Franken-units like the Bar-GM.
>>23696317I know a handful of people were SHOCKED that Kamille was so negative towards Jerid in that vote, it really is just another example of not really knowing what they're voting for, again pure (GLASS HIM) levels of reading comprehension at work.
>>23697273The GM III mimics the performance of the MK II but it doesn't have moveable frame tech which was the most important and impressive thing about the MK II. That's why it's so easy to modify Barzams(Jegans and Dogas too) and why the EF struggle to ditch them.The GM III is a good suit but it's still a souped up OYW design which comes with it's own set of limitations.
>>23697289No, it does. That's the reason why the G-Defensor could even dock with the GM III.
>>23697273The GM III is a GM II with a variety of minor frame improvements, a new backpack, better sensors, better beam sabers and an overall improvement in speed/reaction time. The GM II is a GM (C, E, Kai, etc...) with a variety of minor frame improvements, a new cockpit, better sensors, a minor improvement in speed/reaction time and a dramatically better beam rifle. Seriously, some poor shmuck pilot got a GMIII 'R' that was a GMII 'R' prior and a GM first. There were factory fresh variants, but most of them would've been recycled because the GM/GMII are canonically the most produced MS in UC until the 50 years of Jegan supremacy.
Finishing up the AEUG campaign in GG now. Question: why the FUCK does the Zeta not have psycommu but The O does??
>>23697307>>23697305>The GM III is a GM II with a variety of minor frame improvementsThe GM II frame improvements was the Mk II's moveable frame. The GM that you mentioned is the ship of Thesus at this point.
>>23697304No it doesn't. the GM III can dock because it's backpack is the same/similar model as the MK II. Which is also the reason the Nemo needs to be equipped with a MK II style backpack in order to become the super Nemo.If you equipped a MK II backpack on a Marasai, Hizack, GM II or Barzam it could probably also use the G-Defenser too.
>>23697307Game balance reasons. Handing off the Zeta to S-rank Kamille, Quattro, Katz, Amuro, Fa, Sayla, Judau, and Roux trivializes Axis.
>>23697328I just used the Ex-S instead, which somehow does have a psycommu system, so it gets 250% limit for those characters. I just can't help but be a little disappointed.
>>23697283From what I recall in that particular instance, there was more of a focus on Kam speaking for himself towards JamiDidn't think it was going to be a case of Pap could also be the one to say byesBut if we kept letting ourselves be babied by scirocco he'd think of us as even more of a pawn than normal. Can at least rook
>>23697334>somehow doesIncoms are basically an extension of the system for olds, so newtypes can utilize
>>23695458If you're char in A/AP then you cry, get the shit beat out of you, roll over, cry some more, change your name and then also join Amuro's team so you can sit in the cuck chair and watch as Amuro amasses his harem including both your sister and your ex gf.
>>23697334>>23697379Yeah. Incom has some limitations compared to Psycommu, but in terms of input/output it is a much more refined system as it can receive and operate based off of normie oldtype brainwaves as well as newtype ones. The primary reason it is worse than psycommu is because Incom requires a wired connection between the funnel or bit and the mobile suit to operate, limiting its maneuverability in space and making it easier to shoot them down by aiming for the wires - this is as opposed of course to the then wireless psycommu bits being used by Axis, since all psycommu were wired anyway up to that point.It's a technology that should have been prioritized over putting autistic children in blenders and is why Augusta is the superior lab in terms of the real military value of their intellectual output.
>>23697400The real value of Incom is that it can translate pilot thoughts, regardless of being a newtype, to mobile suit movementits a shame the idea never really got explored outside of sd gundam
>>23697481That would just be an MS-sized Rafflesia, though.
Coming into the tail-end of my own Titan game again and I think one of the funnest things I've done this time round is not over-preparing for Axis. Having to make-do with a handful of Xeku, Marasai and Hizack Customs on Earth while what's left of the Granada Invasion fleet and buffer garrisons (mostly Barzams, Hizack Customs and a lot of starter units left over) in space has made this particular run quite exciting.It's even mirrored Titans Kamille somewhat as I managed to land the Hyaku Shiki (Kai), Methuss, Nemo and Radish through espionage. Super Gundam is super good too though it took me super long to get it.
>>23697400Speaking of Augusta I wonder if we'll ever get a return on our investment of saving it. I know the Baund Doc and Gundam MK-V are a long way off, but why haven't we seen any Gaplants around? Where they just written off after Rosamia got shot down by Amuro? Unless they've been shipped out to aces like Yazan and Monsha who we haven't seen in person. Gates and Kikka being combat ready is probably still a ways off too. With Kikka needing to be indoctrinated into being a loyal soldier of the Titans. Hopefully soon we get some new Mobile suits for Four, Fa, and to replace Leila's aging RX-78T. Like said some Gaplants would be nice. Maybe we could get whatever projects Scirocco is working on, in canon Jerid and Moaur get the Gabthley's at same time Kamille gets the Zeta. So maybe Scirocco could send a pair of Gabthley's to Kamille's shop. It'd be perfect for Leila and Four, and Fa can get the MKII.
>>23697521>but why haven't we seen any Gaplants around? Where they just written off after Rosamia got shot down by Amuro?They should be, they're terrible unless you put them in the back stack. The AI doesn't do that often enough.
>>23697521It might depended on what the AI feels like allocating to us. Which can be fun, since when we are in charge of choosing developments. It results in minmaxing the MK Vs as quickly as we can with most other suits being pushed aside to not waste resources on them. Unless something goofy happened like in the grey AEUG run where we spent all of our investors money on green lighting every mobile suit we could develop before they could pull out.
>>23697544Based le ding man giving us the heads up on that one. Wild how he & chara also hooked up too
>>23697544Man I really wish Grey AEUG ended better than it did. It was the one game where Emma didn't bite it early too (in fact I think she survived the whole thing)
>>23697532by the way, what makes or breaks whether a unit should be placed first, second or last in a stack? i've never really figured that out. i usually just put the shittiest/weakest unit last.
>>23697584How durable and/or expensive it is. That usually translates to Ace units in the back while grunts soak up the barrages but you can do the same with Ace doomstacks, changing position based on who's the most injured.
>>23697584It depends on the strategy. I'll give you a Federation example.First -> Disposable (Tin Cod), Tanks Good (GMII) Aces Tanks/Dodges Good (Kou B-rank in GP01), Melee Ace that tanks or dodges (Sirrocco in the O)Second -> Good Shooting unit, pain to replace (GM Sniper 2, Hizack Custom, Xeku Eins C), Shooting Aces (Chris in the Alex)Third -> Shooting Aces that are Fragile (Gaplant, Super Gundam), MAPS (Hyaku Shiki Launcher)
>>23697588I see, thanks for the info anon. What if its a pilot in a high mobility (but expensive) unit, but the pilot has a lot of reflexes? is dodge tanking in first slot viable?
>>23697592Ah, you answered my question for me >>23697594 thanks a lotso basically I want to put my most expendable units first unless i have a good tank or dodgetank, off tanks or mid tiers second, and glass cannons last
>>23697588Alternatively, there is a melee bug where the second and third units attack with their melee less. So, you would stack Screening non-melee units (Tin Cod, Zssa) with the melee unit in the back (Zeta or the O) to maximize damage. Very good for dealing with Psychos and Quin Mantha.>>23697594Dodge is very viable if you have the Quebley and aren't going up against Snipers, Zack Customs and other aces.
>>23697598The Japanese wiki recommends putting your ace units in the middle of a given stack as well, because melee attacks are much harder to dodge and only the front-most unit is targeted for melee attacks. In addition, if you have a mass produced unit in front and it loses even one, your middle unit will be the one to do melee attacks. I.e., you have three GMs in the front row and one gets blown up, Amuro in the middle row will rush out and kill the enemy.Here's their beginner strategy page. Check it out with a translator.https://w.atwiki.jp/imperatorgirenv/pages/134.html
>>23697599>>23697602>my face when I learn I've been playing like an almost complete retard the entire time
>>23697584What others have said is all good, but another thing to consider is putting aces in the first slot unless they or their unit is made of glass, since aces are a single unit instead of a squad they don't lose mechs at certain HP thresholds so putting them up front as long as you can trust them to not die will cut down on the attrition of the entire squad since an ace unit can be healed to full while a squad unit can only be healed up the threshold of the current living unit. But yeah, for complex squads you want shield units in rank one with ranks 2 and 3 largely being interchangeable shooting focused units. Though frankly just stacking 3 of the same grunt is just fine for most difficulties.
>>23697610My best performers in the OYW were just stacks of ball-p's firing from range 2 while stacks of gm sk's swarmed the enemy, aside from instances of overwhelming unit advantage like blue destiny mogging big zam
>>23697610I see. So a good "complex" squad might be something like>Heavy Gundam>G-Armor>Guncannon II
>>23697624Nah, you're overcomplicating the OYW, for the EFF the squad you're presenting is literally worse than>Gundam Bazooka>Gundam Bazooka>Gundam BazookaThe EFF has a borked tech tree for ace suits because the OG Gundam moggs everything else for the entire one year war. The only other notable ace suits for them are the OG Guncannon because it can exists 2 whole turns before the Proto Gundam and that really matters on higher difficulties. The Proto Gundam because it upgrades into Bazooka Gundams, and Full Armor Gundams because they can be upgraded into map attack bots during part two. Beyond that for general advice for a complex squad you want a shield unit upfront the Heavy Gundam does not have one of those and you still want to range match so stuff like the Guncannon 2 having 3 range isn't especially helpful.
>>23697624NTA. I wouldn't do that. The Heavy Gundam is an incredible damage dealer for its level, especially in direct range 1 combat, but surprisingly fragile because its mobility is very low. I think it'd be better to put the G-Armor back into Gundam form and put it in front so it can shield, and keep the Heavy Gundam in the rear.
>>23697607I used to always autobattle because I thought the battle system was too complex. Now that I've sat down and tried learning it just a little, it's surprisingly not hard. I'll feel like I'm getting my ass kicked in a battle but then the enemy is only left with 3 units before I realize.
>>23697532>>23697544I'm thinking more about the narrative of the story and how it parralels canon Zeta. Which is how the run has played out, the events in the run mirror canon but are reimagined with Kamille as a Titan. Kamille annihilating Karaba was a twist on how he helped them in the anime, the HLV plan was just a bigger more dangerous version of Karaba sending Kamille to space, etc. So it'd make sense for new Titans machines to be delivered to us. >>23697564Shame Emma died early this run. She was in a Rick Dias alongside Roberto and was shot down by grunts. Part of the AI messing up during the HLV operation. At least Roberto and Apolly are alive they almost always die early. Maybe Apolly and Roberto will make it far and be important this run. They're Quattro's wingmen so that has to stand for something.
>>23697646I'm actually surprised at how solid their stats are. Apolly at A-Rank is quite dangerous for a Dias pilot.
>>23687283https://snip.dssr.ch/?dc19fbb26a459948#GejUvYgGnf7s81gbR3b4YNz11Y1jBHsYLRwvEy3hY8D3New link. Should be up-to-date with everything released thus far. Same pass as always.>>23693928
>>23697854Oh, didn't realize we were on page 9 with a bump limit kek, I should've just waited until the next thread and included that too. Oh well, at least you have one for the OP, Copy.
>>23697856I still feel like this is a new thread honestly. Mostly just dialogue based choices this thread, a couple of Sides have changed hands but it's not much action overall.
>>23697854You're a king, Jack.
>>23693928While Kamille makes the decision to join Sarah in the infiltration operation, along with entrusting his vessel to Jerid until the Zeta Gundam is captured, Blex Forer of the AEUG tries to rest after preparing a speech and evidence of the Titans confirmed atrocities before the Dakar Senate. >Blex: (What could Jamitov be plotting? Is his greed so vast that he would just allow the Earth to die for his own ego? It may not change much, but at least the world will see his organization for what it truly is after this...)Settling himself into his hotels bed, Blex hears the door to the room slowly creaking open.>Blex: Lieutenant, might I ask you to consider speaking to the Senate tomorrow on-*POP*-----*POP*, *POP*.Slowly creeping out from the hotel room, the well-dressed figure slips out from the site of the assassination. Feeling a cold sweat as he secures digital evidence of the Titans atrocities from an ally of the AEUG, Quattro senses a deep shift in the stability of the world around him in that moment...[END OF EPISODE 13]
>>23698179Does Bask ever do anything that doesn't just undermine us?
>>23698179>Episode is called "Shooting for the Moon">It ends with the leader of the AEUG being shot to deathBravo Copy >>23698238To answer your question no. Bask will never support our decisions and desires. Thanks to him AEUG will probably be completely absorbed by Axis when it arrives in the Earth Sphere.
>>23698179I hope Beltorchika calls Jamitov an old faggot for this.
>>23698337We sent Bel to kill him.What are the odds that she convinces him to sudoku on live television?
>>23698337>>23698363Bel's gonna lambaste Jamitov for his poor decisions and choice in commanders. Which will hopefully push him to punish Bask and take a more active roll in leading the Titans. No more of this pulling the strings from the shadows bullshit.
>>23698238No. His sole purpose is to drag down the Titans and make for funny dialogue. This was why I considered voting to blow his brains out earlier, it's just that it might have cost us big time.He's going to continue doing stuff like this until someone kills him, by the way. For example if we are trying to befriend some neutral colony later, don't be surprised if he uses Gryps 2 to obliterate them. He might try and colony drop the moon while we're still on it. This is his business.
>>23698238We voted to not shoot him, then voted to go to space instead of replacing him at Dakar.
>>23698238This is normal Bask behavior, no
>>23698388I voted to pinch him because I didn't think shooting him would work. He's a big guy, and he could survive a gunshot.
>>23698412It woulda been extremely painful THO
>>23698436for you
>>23698382It has been a while since his Fangirl in this timeline appeared. How long until we have Kamille clones running around to serve Bask?
>>23698518The lady from the labs? Good question. We pretty much ran for the hills after the Leila bond happened. Bask does canonically have his own Newtype Corps so I fully expect them to appear during the AEUG endgame with Gates, Cyber Kikka and whatever the India Lab cooks up for him.
>>23698412My personal bet was metal plates everywhere. Imagine us shooting him in the brainpan and it just bounces. That would be it for us
>>23698706It was clear that we weren't really going to kill him with that crappy handgun, but rather we would give his body the order to stop functioning entirely or brain death with a pinch after enduring a beating ourselves.
>>23698388shooting was likely to not work in a way that favors us, and we went into space to avoid a early infighting scenario because Bask would just send his forces after us
>>23698388>>23698412I think some of us voted for pinch since their was possibility that firing would lead to an immediate fire fight while the pinch would have Bask's goons guard down along with confusion when he goes down.
new thread?
>>23698796I voted to shoot out of worry that we’d approach Bask and he’d just deck us in the face and stomp our teeth in.
>>23698179WE SHOULDA SHOT BASK
>>23698870Wait for the Palace Athene.
>>23698311Could have had Titans Katz...
>>23698938Instead we're gonna get Zeonic Katz because he got saved by Zeek Remnants after he was shot down. Same goes for Reccoam. Who knows when the fuckers will show up again.
>>23699028Nah, Amuro kneeling would have had him frothing to become a Black Devil. Blex dying from Bask is probably going to have Henken defect to Axis, and since he's the last reasonable adult, Katz will follow.
>>23698870It's not like Blex dying is a bad outcome for us. Char is gonna be too busy being conflicted about whether or not he should lead AEUG anyway
>>23699142But we're not making decisions for Char! He doesn't have the /m/tard debuff anymore!
>>23699143>Char or Amuro with /m/ at the wheel: The verbal and intellectual acumen of an approximate grape>Unchained:
>>23699156Id say it's the opposite if we have Amuro in our control he isn't a retard but if left to his own devices he likes bathing his mobile suits in the ocean
New thread:>>23699230
