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>>23797971

[EPISODE 18: WHAT LIES AT WRATH'S END]

Even in its ravaged state, Von Braun's partially functioning docks are put back into operation to accommodate the arrival of Kamille's forces. While Jerid continues to gather the last survivors of his first occupation of the city, Kamille Bidan works with maintenance staff to prepare the Alexandria's Mobile Suits for the final assault on Granada. Having had to suffer the loss of so many for this day, Kamille can barely suppress the chaotic stream of emotions coursing through him as he focuses on fine tuning the capture Zeta Gundam to his needs. Just as the final adjustments are made, the moment of clarity causes Kamille to reflect on the danger of the upcoming battle, with Leila appearing to no longer have any desire to pilot, along with Fa's lack of combat expertise. While he contemplates removing both from the crew for their own safety, his thoughts are broken by the sound of Fa's voice yelling in the hangar. Pulling himself out from the Zeta's opened abdomen, he finds Fa arguing with a group of engineers over the Mega Launcher originally meant for the now damaged Hyaku Shiki.

>Fa: I have more than enough experience to use it!
>Titan Engineer: The launcher itself can't be used independently, at least no without a proper generator funneling it energy. It was modified to feed off that AEUG machines power supply-
>Fa: If Jerid won't pilot it, then let me do it!
>Kamille: Have you lost it?
>Fa: Kamille, you-

Taking Fa's by her upper arm, Kamille pulls her away from earshot of the others, cornering her.

>Kamille: What changed? Why do you want to fight now?
>Fa:...Some of our-I mean...some of my friends from Green Noa are still fighting for the AEUG. If winning at Granada will get them to give up, I want to end that battle quickly. Jerid was planning on using that weapon to take out their forces quickly, but...I want to just deal a blow that will put an end to this before it gets out of hand!

>>23798024

>Kamille: You are thinking about all of this the wrong way. You can't be selective with who you are attacking on a battlefield when they are-
>Fa: You and Jerid are just looking for excuses to kill even more people. If the battle drags out, there won't be any reason for you to spare anyone-

Kamille moves his hand back to slap Fa, only stopping as he realizes that his childhood friend is expectant of such a thing from him now.

>Kamille:...Leila. Is she doing better?
>Fa: She is confused. Very, very confused...as all of us are now. Are you going to ask me to leave the ship with her?
>Kamille: H-how did you-
>Fa: She really does know you. I won't leave.
>Kamille: Why? If this is for Jerid-
>Fa: None of us can go back to having a normal life, Kamille. Jerid made sure my only chance at is gone now. Please...don't try to make me leave. If you did, you and Jerid would be at your throats earlier than what he is waiting for.
>Kamille: What do you mean by that?
>Fa: Both of you are climbing for the same thing. At the top of that spire, he thinks there will only be room enough for one of you to stand.
>Kamille: Fa...
>Fa: I will follow your orders out there...so just let me use that weapon.

>Who will be assigned to the Hyaku Shiki with the Mega Launcher?
https://strawpoll.com/3RnYXRqzQye

>>23798041
Alright Fa, this is your chance to prove yourself.
we have such an advantage that surely you can't fuck things up.

>>23798041
I'm not worried about Fa screwing the shot up. She has the most motivation to do well out of the three pilots listed. I'm worried about how the results of the shot might affect her, how much blood she'll feel on her hands.

>>23798041
I'm fine with letting Fa prove herself, but I feel like it will backfire for her later on once she truly realizes what she's doing. Kamille and Jerid already know it's going to be a bloodbath, and Fa still thinks she can stop the AEUG from fighting by breaking their spirits when we're already way past that point, and it'll be even worse once Axis enters and the AEUG remnants rally under it. She has some experience thanks to Jerid, but she's still too soft.

>>23798041
ironically Sydle is probably the safest choice here for the purposes of ensuring AEUG death, but I think I don't really care too much who wins this vote

>>23798182

She's actually not. Remember, back before he returned to the Dogos, Scirocco gave her a secret directive. I highly expect her to do some nonsense and while Fa is both a novice and in a crisis of faith, she's still more trustworthy than Sydle.

>>23798041
Fa is probably gonna have a newtype moment and refuse to fire at a critical moment. This is actually still better than I expect Leila or Sydle to perform, though. Leila will be a total deer in the headlights, and Sydle might just fucking shoot one of our guys in the back depending on what Scirocco's orders were.
Give it to Fa and hope she at least gets one or two good shots off is my thinking.

I kind of want to vote for Sydle to make her relevant outside of being Sciroccos least favorite hoe, but Fa is most likely a better choice considering she is less likely to betray us for dumb reasons. Leila can stay in the kitchen for all I care.

>>23798288
I mean if Leila sticks close to us hopefully she can have a "first battle" (from her pov) that doesn't go too badly here. Kill a couple of Nemos or something. Get over the initial shock of taking a human life, or being in mortal danger herself.
Axis probably have a shitload of Cybers and AEUG turncoats to make up for their typical achilles heel of a low ace count. We need aces of our own, especially since we're losing Bask's crew, probably the Pezun guys, and whoever else dies on Earth.

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>read the last thread
>Mineva at heart is just a good girl who misses her fake mom and dad
;__;

>>23798190
I don't recall that but I'll take your word for it.
The only private talk that comes to mind is her being scolded for stealing the Zeta

>>23798475
It would be a hard sell for Mineva to actually be a heartless absolute monarch at age 6, so Haman being once again the puppetmaster was always likely.

>>23798501
I honestly thought Haman might have been dead for a hot minute.

>>23798502
Considering how she has been kept even more in the shadows than Mineva and the other Axis aces I get the feeling she is going to be some manner of more fucked up than usual.

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>>23798590
Somewhere along the line some absolutely insane levels of NTR happened. My theory is that Amuro was about to make an honest connection with Haman, Char didn't like that at all, and then Char used his good looks to fuck Haman before Amuro got the chance. Char doesn't actually want shit to do with Haman, and superficially cockblocking Amuro is Char's way at getting him back for what happened with Lalah.

Axis has become an episode of The Jerry Springer Show and I am SO here for it.

>>23798480

>Scirocco: Sydle! I can tell you were not assigned to that Mobile Suit...that would be a severe act of insubordination. As it stands though, Jerid Messa is who you have been assigned to take orders from...so I will let him decide how you should be punished for that act.
>Sydle: Why are you still playing this game with our lives?! You sent me here to see just how irrational and moronic the regular Titan leadership are, so why won't you let me prove my competence?! I can't take this-
>Scirocco: Land the Zeta, and return to your quarters on the Alexandria. We will talk about this...privately.

That's the last Sydle actually came up. It was never followed up on but I highly doubt that she was just scolded and that was that.

>>23798621
Sydle was acting like a retard then ended up not even fighting back when Jerid hit her so I do believe she just got scolded, I'm not saying she isn't apart of some bigger plan but that was when Scirocco is clearly just tired of her

>>23798621
Eh, that's subtle enough that I don't mind letting Sydle join us in battle. Just not taking away our Zeta.
I would be extremely skeptical if Sydle claims to have swapped to our side from Scirocco's, though.

>>23798041
Just wanna mention giving Fa the Hyaku Shiki will also be a form of induction into the Black Devil Squadron.

The Hyaku Shiki is related to Gundams. If was Jerid's machine and he's equal with Kamille. It also has the reputation of being a devil thats tormented AEUG. Fa piloting the machine will put her side by side with Jerid and Kamille. Maybe even literally as AEUG forces will definitely go for the giant gun being pointed at them.

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>>23798615
Char: Amuro, you're going to have to pilot the Qubeley.
Amuro: Me? What happened to Haman?
Char: She can't do it in her current...condition.
Amuro: Condition? I-is she hurt? What did you do?
Char: *smirks* I've decided to take your advice, take responsibility, and carry on the Deikun legacy.
Amuro: You mean- you son of a bitch. *punches Char*
Char: You know, a simple congratulations would have sufficed.
Audience: Jer-ry! Jer-ry! Jer-ry!

>>23798691
Hey, wait a second. The Argama Kai might have a Hyper Mega Particle Cannon, like the regular Argama did in the second half of ZZ.
If it does, it might just obliterate Fa with one shot once she's detected, as a necessary step to protect itself.
Welp, hope she's real good at dodging!

>>23798812
While I guess it could, by default it shouldn't have the hyper ones though
https://youtu.be/tq5bv-Ts_Ss

>>23798823
Oh, I wasn't aware that the Argama Kai is even a thing, really - I thought Copy had it custom-made. That eases my concerns about what it might be capable of. Still, I think we are best off staying away from it while fighting its mobile suits if possible.

>>23798041
>27/32
Fa gets the beeg gun... I have a sudden desire for fanart

>>23798041
>Fa won the vote
Hopefully Fa can get a good shot or two on a massive enemy formation. That way she'd be able to level up pretty fast. Hopefully she can take the mental weight of turning dozens of people into stardust though.

>>23798041

Sensing Fa's resolve to go through with manning the Mega Launcher and shouldering the immense causalities it would bring, Kamille chooses to place his faith in her untested abilities.

>Kamille: You are absolutely certain you can do this? Even if you are the one with the trigger, you'll wait for my order to fire. If you can't do that-
>Fa: I just want all of this fighting to end. Even if you and Jerid have your own intentions-
>Kamille: Damn it Fa, how can you expect me to trust you with this when you are talking like-
>Fa: Be quiet! This is the only way I can understand how she felt...to fully commit to this without any regrets!

While Kamille feels a looming sense of doubt that overtaking Granada would truly bring an end to hostilities, he finds himself quietly desiring the swift and less painful victory that Fa desires.

[Fa has been assigned to the Hyaku Shiki (Mega Launcher-ver)]

As final preparations are made for the invasion of Granada, a disguised force under the command of Brave Cod and Tosh Cray launch an invasion of the "Penta" orbital space station. Having overtaken the base swiftly before a communication could be deployed to Earth, the Pezun insurrectionist prepare multiple shuttles from the station to initiate a descent operation to Dakar, striking the Senate and solidifying a unified Jingoistic military regime to replace them.

>Brave:...I can feel it pulling at us even now.
>Tosh: Once this is concluded, I promise you will never need to leave the Earth again.
>Brave: I'll hold you to that. Now then-

Multiple flashes bursting across Asia, with the lights of civilization being cast into shadow as more explosions envelope the region. Even from their position above Earth, the Pezun insurrectionist watch as even Africa is consumed by the ceaseless carnage being spread by both the rampaging forces of Bask and the final retaliation of Karaba.

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>>23799143

No longer restricted by the Federations now defanged forces, Bask's forces freely ravage Asia and Eurasian territories without cease, burning entire region and cities to cinder in their fanatical and mindless attack on anyone or anything they brand as "seditious". While the main Titan army under Bask's Command halts for the night to replenish themselves on looted supplies and the personal belongings of those gathered and murdered, the Titan's second-in-command is made aware of the invasion on Kilimanjaro. Rather than immediately acting to support Jamitov however, Bask chooses to wait until the base is completely overrun to act.

>Bask: (You've more than served your purpose, Jamitov. The time for these spacenoid cretins end has finally come! There so many more of them that need to be burned...!!)

Meanwhile in the Arabian Peninsula, Mouar travels onboard a Base Jabber alongside a member of the India Newtype labs, her senses greatly expanded from Director Robins special experiment on her body.

>India Newtype Lab Staff: Not Kilimanjaro?
>Mouar: Something truly horrible is there, but...it isn't him. What she did to me...is this what being a Newtype is? I...don't like it.
>India Newtype Lab Staff: I assure you that these side effects will subside soon enough. Still, you are being drawn to something in...northern Africa? Is it going to Dakar?
>Mouar: Why would he go there...unless...?!

As Mouar pushes her Base Jabber's boosters to full power to reach Dakar sooner, Director Robins licks her lips as she reads over the mental wave data from her Earthbound subject, finding all of them to be within viable capabilities to become Newtypes.

>Director Robins: (Just a few days longer, my Bask. Then you will be the one that history remembers as its savior. The final living evidence of the failure of Zeon Deikun and his followers.)

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>>23799161

>Scirocco: It is an honor to finally meet you, Miss Noa.

Holding her two children close, Mirai faces both of them towards her thighs as she is brought before Paptimus Scirocco at the Gryps 2 installation.

>Scirocco: Thank you for keeping them safe in my absence, Haifan.
>Haifan: It was simply my duty, Lord Paptimus.
>Mirai: If it were not for you...Bright would be still be-
>Scirocco: You may not believe me, but I mourn alongside you. He was a man with such potential and ability...I do wonder if his children had inherited those gifts-

Mirai holds Hathaway and Cheimin closer, her expression growing increasingly more agitated as she holds back the urge to lunge herself at Scirocco for his part in her husbands death and to protect her children.

>Scirocco:...Ah, I see it now. It was never about the physicality, but the kind of woman you are. I imagine you have raised both of your children well-
>Mirai: Don't even think of trying to harm them.
>Scirocco: Should I ever act in a manner that would endanger them, I give you my permission to strike me down. As I had promised your husband, all of your needs will be taken care of...regardless of what they may be-

Breaking away from Mirai's grip, Hathaway tackles into Scirocco's leg, partially staggering the Jovian.

>Mirai: Hathaway, stop!
>Hathaway: S-stay away from Mommy and sister!

Taking a knee to be at Hathaway's eye level, Scirocco smirks as he pulls away the synthetic skin over his damaged eye, seeking to unnerve the small boy. Despite the sight, Hathaway refuses to rush back to Mirai, instead seeking to protect his mother and sibling.

>Scirocco: Hathaway, was it? So young, and yet so willing to protect the women in his life...how beautiful.
>Hathaway: Are you...a bad guy?
>Scirocco: Do I look like one, Hathaway? Would you like me to show the "bad guy" who took your father away?
>Mirai: Stop it! Don't-
>Scirocco: Should you wish to know the truth, I would be more than happy to show you...friend.

>>23799184
>Scirocco is grooming Hathaway
Quite possibly the worst young mind he could mold.

>>23799184
I am distinctly reminded of how war can be described as 'Old men talking and young men dying,' but with a boy instead.

>>23799184
>Count Dooku grooms General Greivous

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>>23799184

[Additional Titan forces are on route to Von Braun. An additional 10 squadrons will arrive in 1 turn]

Jerid's call to action had been a completely success, regardless of his intentions in doing so. With so many forces now on route to aid in the assault on Granada, victory truly appears to be all but assured against the last of the AEUG's forces. As Kamille contemplates trying to speak with Leila about being moved to safety, he is stopped by an unusually agitated Sydle.

>Kamille:...Sydle, if this is about your Mobile Suit-
>Sydle: Captain Paptimus wanted to speak with you...and Sarah. Together. N-now...!
>Kamille: How do you even know that? Did Scirocco-

Sydle hands over a small data disk with a specific laser-line designation burned onto it. Looking back towards the Zeta Gundam, Sydle struggles to contain her immense frustration.

>Sydle: Please excuse me-
>Kamille: Hey, don't just walk away. Did he put you up to this? Sydle-

Feeling Kamille's hand against her shoulder, Sydle barely keeps herself from flailing to break her grip.

>Sydle: He made it clear he only wanted to speak to you and Sarah.
>Kamille: Why did he contact you privately? Why all of this secrecy?

Turning her face back to Kamille's, her boyish face contorts into a deep scowl. Shrugging away Kamille's hand, Sydle shambles herself out from the hangar. Already juggling so many other responsibilities, Kamille forces himself to ignore Sydle's attitude for the moment, instead turning his attention to learning the exact nature of why Scirocco would want to contact him now, along with requesting for Sarah to accompany him.

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>>23799244

Entering into Sarah's quarters, Kamille finds the young pilot swinging her leg against a sandbag.

>Sarah: Commander Bidan! Sir!
>Kamille: Easy, we aren't on duty right now. You sure that pushing yourself like this right before we depart is such a wise idea?
>Sarah: Four hasn't been the same recently, so I need to keep practicing, even if she can't help me.
>Kamille: Four is still locked in her quarters? Damn, did what happened at Pezun really affect her that much...look, Sarah, I need you to come with me.
>Sarah: Did something happen?
>Kamille: Sort of. Sydle said that Scirocco had wanted to talk to us both. I have no idea what this is about, but considering he outfitted you and Sydle with your machines, he must have something for you to know. No idea why he is being so secretive about this though...

Quickly showering and tidying herself, Sarah accompanies Kamille to the Alexandria's briefing room, using its communication line to send a laser signal using the data disk provided by Sydle. Within seconds, the rooms view screen indicates a pending connection signal, with Scirocco soon appearing before the two with his facial scarring on full display.

>Scirocco: Ah, you took longer than I expected.
>Kamille: Scirocco...what is this about? When did you put Sydle up to this?
>Scirocco: A direct communication not masked through a laser-line could be intercepted rather easily on the Moon.
>Sarah: M-master Paptimus...your face-
>Scirocco: Sweet Sarah, always so attentive. It is nothing to be concerned with at all. It can be properly healed any time I desire...that is not important though. Considering that you both intend to attack the Moon, it would be going against his Excellencies own intentions.
>Kamille: We aren't stopping-
>Scirocco: Oh, of course not. I didn't come here to stand in your way. The fall of Granada will mark a great shift in history. One that will noted by future generations...I just want to ensure you are aware of what that means.

>>23799271
did sirocco get hit with a shoe

>>23799271
So this was what Scirocco pulled Sydle away for earlier. He didn't give her a order to shoot us in the back. It's good that the Jovian still seems to be looking out for Kamille some way.
>>23799281
He got scarred fighting Amuro when AEUG did their air drop to Jaburo..

>>23799271

>Kamille: This communication line is going to...Gryps 2? Scirocco, do you actually intend to help us, or just to observe...or something else?
>Scirocco: "Something else"? Now whatever could you mean?
>Kamille: Stop dancing around why you called us here and just say it. If you intend to threaten us-
>Sarah: Kamille, he...wouldn't-
>Scirocco: You have my solemn word that I will do nothing to impede your attack on Granada. Do as you wish...having said that though, I simply want to make sure you both are ready for the future that will await when it falls. That you both are properly equipped to handle the aftermath of becoming a part of the gears of history.
>Kamille: Scirocco...! Enough! We need to focus on readying this attack-
>Scirocco: I want an apology.

Kamille awkwardly looks around the briefing room for a brief moment, before looking back to the view screen.

>Kamille: A-are you actually doing this? Now?
>Scirocco: I just want to hear you say the exact words "I am sorry". I don't care if you mean it or not, but I want to hear it from your mouth.
>Kamille: For what? You can't be seriously-
>Scirocco: Those who have the capability to properly change the world understand there are times when certain words need to be spoken, regardless of their personal feelings.
>Kamille: What are you even-
>Sarah: No. Absolutely not, Mast...No! Paptimus Scirocco!
>Kamille: Sarah?
>Sarah: Are you actually being this petty? That is...it's just pathetic! Did you actually ask for me to be here so you would have an audience?

Scirocco leans back in his seat, his smile slowly growing as Sarah's emotions spike with anger and disappointment towards him.

>Scirocco: Please, do continue. You appear to have picked up a good deal from Kamille-
>Sarah: You make a single mistake, and you can't get over it! We already forgave you for that, and you can't accept it?!
>Scirocco: All I am asking for is the words "I." "Am." "Sorry." From you...Kamille.

>>23799271
>Sweet Sarah, always so attentive. It is nothing to be concerned with at all. It can be properly healed any time I desire
This line is great because we've seen him with the scar already fixed earlier this run Scirocco put back the scar just to guilt Sarah here and to look cool to people who don't know he can have it removed when he wants. The idea that Scirocco got the scar fixed then had a "wait a minute this scar could be useful to me" moment before getting it put back is really funny. I wonder if he can turn the scar on and off at will or if he's already got his multiple bodies plan from Walpurgis up and running.

>>23799299
Scirocco is intentionally being extremely provocative and trying to get a reaction again. This seems to be a genuine test though, one to to see if Kamille is indeed a equal to him.

The Jovian has a point though. Yes there are times when people need to put aside their feelings and say things they don't mean. Put up a mask to hide your true intentions. You can't go around with your emotions unbarred screaming at everything and bashing in everyone's head like a cave man. Jerid was doing exactly that and if Kamille didn't come and wrangle him into being a competent leader he would be dead.

So if it is a decision Kamille should apologize. Even if it's just not to get the desired outburst that Scirocco is trying to goad him into.

>>23799299

Kamille remains silent, baffled by the childish and petty request from Scirocco of all people. Had a man like him truly had his ego so heavily bruised by being seen as wrong? Kamille feels a slight pain in his head as Sarah's thoughts meld with his own, with her critiques of Scirocco growing more heavy and emotional as she unintentionally finds herself speaking Kamille's own thoughts as her own. Realizing that Scirocco may have intended this reaction from the start, Kamille grows increasingly frustrated, only for him to see a short vision of Sarah being doted on by both himself and Scirocco.

>Kamille: What are you trying to prove with this? Do you even realize how...just absolutely stupid this makes you look?! All of this over-
>Sarah: Don't, Kamille. Don't...please don't apologize to him.
>Scirocco: How dramatic! Truly, you must be without an equal, Kamille Bidan! Sarah simply can't help herself, can she-
>Kamille: Shut up! Damn you for trying to agitate us!
>Scirocco: You obviously have everything figured, Kamille Bidan. So much so that you can't even give me a simple word...because you are just so superior, aren't you-
>Sarah: Shut up-Shut up-SHUT UP!!
>Scirocco: I think i've heard all I need to. On the count of five, i'll end this communication. When I do, you'll be ready to make history with your own hands, Kamille. I look so forward to seeing it. One...two...three-

Sarah grabs for the data disk, intent on breaking it. Realizing that his own emotions are flowing freely through Sarah, Kamille makes a decision.

>How will Kamille respond to Scirocco's actions?
https://strawpoll.com/6QnMQqzE8ne

>>23799318
I say let Sarah actually speak for herself, afterall we're no puppets

>>23799318
I know I'm going to regret option 3, but...

>>23799318
I think just letting Sarah be on her own without any influence is good. Nothing like Leila and it's clear Scirocco is trying to pull a "SEE? WE ARE THE SAME!" on Kamille. He's clearly wanting the communication to end prematurely and is trying to stir shit, so Number 3 seems like the ideal choice regardless of whether or not we get Sarah points.

>>23799318
I'm considering letting Sarah do her thing, she's been on a roll thus far and deserves to get her thoughts off her chest

>>23799323
Sicrocco managed to overpower her last time, but we do need to trust in our subordinates more.

>>23799327
He was directly in front of her thoughbeit

And gentlemen, do remember that our fainting goat loves both mapulating and gaslighting women, it's his classic 1-2 combo.

>>23799338
Arguably what happened with Leila is more Kamille mistook his connection to her as a complete bond, not the spirit within her turning yandere for him

>>23799318
I honestly don't have a strong opinion here. I'll wait for more posts before deciding anything.

>>23799318
>Kamille feels a slight pain in his head as Sarah's thoughts meld with his own, with her critiques of Scirocco growing more heavy and emotional as she unintentionally finds herself speaking Kamille's own thoughts as her own.
If this phenomena is happening to Sarah who else is it happening too? How many members of the Alexandria have inadvertently been expressing Kamille's unconscious thoughts and desires? Maybe Fa finally fell to Kamille's passive influence and that's why she desired to pilot the Hyaku Shiki.

Hell this passive ability might be the reason Kamille and Jerid's relationship has been so strange this run. When Kamille returned from Earth with this unconscious ability to mold people Jerid's lesser newtype senses told him something was wrong but he couldn't express what. Then after Jerid and Kamille beat eachother half to death the walls broke down between them and Kamille was subconsciously able to manipulate Jerid as their influence with eachother grew. It's why Jerid suddenly became more defensive and competent.

Kamille's subconscious ability is probably what Scirocco thought the biosensor was doing to the Alexandria. Scirocco was right in that a newtype phenomena was effecting the crew of the Alexandria he just got the source wrong, it was Kamille himself doing it not the biosensor. That's why the entire crew tried to lynch Scirocco when he arrived, they were venting Kamille's frustration with the jovian. It's also why they stopped, even Jerid, when Kamille called Scirocco's bluff.

>>23799824
What if the influence points are actually just how much Kamille has mind merged with a person? We got it to max with Leila and she was basically Kamille's psycho tendencies unchained. Either that or it's Psycho Gundam fuckery.

>>23799318
Honestly, we'll need all the help we can get to take on Bask and the New Desides. Once Jamitov is dead, they will inevitably come after us and the colonies.
If we accept this humiliation, however, we'll have the support of Scirocco, the Jupitris, and potentially Gryps 2, Luna II, and Yazan, at least until he decides that switching sides to the Earth supremacists is more appealing.
Alternatively, we have Sarah as our wild card. She could either convince Scirocco to help us sincerely out of the love he truly feels for her, or make him realize that we've shattered his deception, given this woman independence, and that we're incapable of staring him down, which will enrage the syrup man like nothing else.

>>23799975
Whatever the case Kamille is a cognitohazard just being around him leads to people being passively influenced into being more useful to him. Supporting him, keeping him safe, accomplishing his goals. Worst of all he's barely aware of it.

If you're right about the mind meld or connection thing with influence though that'd be incredibly worrying. Since a connection like that is a two way street so whoever Kamille is highly influential with is also influencing him, and whoever else he's connected with. A connection from Jerid to Kamille to Sarah for example would explain why she's acting out now.

>>23799975
>>23800162
I think the mind meld thing is not entirely true, I believe Sarah is more liberated yes but not purely because of Kamille.

I think the situation on Alexandria is the newtypes in general are influencing each other off of their positive interactions with one another in general, that is why Sarah is picking up on Four's martial prowess

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So is the same thing happening in Zeon? Is Amuro just a complete psycho this run because he has been accidentally psychically influenced by two huge shitheads?

>>23800167
Sarah being the best she is now could be because of Kamille's connection to both her and Four. His influence with both of them is at 4/5 meaning he could be influencing them into being close friends and copying eachother. Kamille likes how Four supports him and Sarah could be subconsciously influenced into acting like her.

>>23800220
Didn't Four and Sarah reach that understanding before Sarah got level 4 with Kamille though?

If this subconscious mind meld theory holds any weight would that mean Sciroccos actions here are actually him being petulant? The two of them have a high connection so it is possible Scirocco is allowing himself to be insanely petty over being called out over the Zeta fuckup.

>>23800225
Sarah only started acting like this after Kamille called Scirocco's bluff with the Biosensor which got her influence to 4/5. Before that they did train a bit together and they supported Kamille when he damaged the biosensor.

>>23800241
Sarah went on a full on spar to settle a disagreement before the biosensor damage even happened to which Four beat the shit out of her, that's prime Four behavior before reaching 4/5

>>23800232
Kamille's influence with Scirocco was 3/5 so you're probably right. Though the jovian probably isn't just testing Kamille and Sarah, but also himself to see if he's been affected like the Alexandria crew. Despite not being physically present around Kamille, Scirocco's personality has changed quite a bit since he met him. Becoming more hotheaded and emotion, just like Kamille.

The entire scenario here likely has the purpose to gauge how much Kamille is subconsciously influencing Sarah, and how much she's acting on it. Whatever choice wins the vote will likely directly lead to Scirocco being subconsciously effected further by Kamille or the connection being weakened.

>>23800307

Is Scirocco at 3/5? We haven't really pal'd around with him since prior to departing for Earth and we haven't gotten updates with him beyond the influence remaining unchanged. Kinda wish we'd get a influence number whether they changed or not after a decision.

>>23800343
just ask copy x for a list

>>23800193
It's more like he & char swapped. Rather than psych related it's been more fun to run with the theory that he's doing it for haman's nookie

>>23799318
>2 votes for flipping him off
That's two fingers as far as I'm concerned motherfucker.
Respect to whoever voted with me on that.

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>>23800587
Didn't vote for that but i respect the sentiment.

>>23800755
kek, now Copy can supersede the votes with this and I'm totally ok with it.

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>>23800755
>Sperg out
>Raise some hell
>Beat AEUG

>>23801122
The jovian? More like the lesbian, lmao

>>23800755
>>23801122
Let's hope reconciliation with the Jovian is a fraction as satisfying as this.

>>23801281
? hes gonna be pissed

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What are the odds syrup man defects to Axis this run?

What about my hero Ohm?
Is he safe? Is he alright?

Captcha got worse all of a sudden so it's hard to comment in these threads now.

>>23801740
> >>23799161
>>23801851
Skill issue

>>23801851
>he doesn't recognise Ein from Cowboy Bebop
It's a creative filter, I'll give them that

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>>23801851
Newfag.

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Mister Amuro, did you really kill my dad all for some Newtype snatch? If so I completely understand and forgive you.

>>23801851
>>23801857
It asked me which countries make up /cum/ on /int/ a board I've literally never visited before personally.

>>23801858
The questions for me range from obvious shit to things only certain boards would know, it’s a little retarded

>>23801851
>>23801908
it asked me who link from zelda was and i said tangle and it said done.
I am retroactively in favor of kamille flipping off syrup-man, though I voted for sarah to talk it out with him. I think that's what Scirocco would do, and beating him at his own game of hypnotizing the pussy is a fun way to flex

>>23799318

Kamille grabs for Sarah's wrist, stopping her from cutting off the communication. Even as she tries to yank herself free, Kamille maintains a firm hold over her.

>Sarah: Don't do this! I am not going to let you both act like this-
>Kamille: I want you to talk to him yourself. I know that,that you feel inclined to say certain things. Things that feel natural...things that when we share common ground on, it just...pushes you to-
>Scirocco: Did you want me to wait until you finish chatting, or is what you wanted to tell me after it?
>Sarah: You are just so-
>Kamille: I know what you really want, Sarah. Say it.
>Sarah: I don't-
>Kamille: It doesn't what I think about it, only that you can express it yourself.

Releasing Sarah's wrist, Kamille steps away from the young Newtype, allowing her a moment to compose her words as she looks back to Scirocco.

>Scirocco: Dear Sarah-
>Sarah: I want to see it, Master Paptimus. More than anything in the entire world, I want to see the future you are working to build.
>Scirocco: Oh? Is that right? If I didn't know any better, Kamille already showed you something more agreeable to-
>Sarah: Stop trying to sabotage yourself! Why do you have to isolate yourself from those who care about you?! Why can't you let yourself be the man worthy of the dream you are capable of making a reality?!

Even from the hundreds of thousands of miles separating them, Scirocco appears unusually unnerved by Sarah's words. Looking back to Kamille, Scirocco's moment of doubt shifts back into his usual smug expression.

>Scirocco: Why all the theatrics? Even if you must make Sarah speak in your place, all I asked for were the words-
>Sarah: I want to take my place in the world that you want, Master Paptimus! As the woman worthy of ensuring that future can survive! I want...I want to be cherished by both you and Kamille!

Scirocco head slowly lowers to the ground, his eyes darting as he tries to stabilize his thoughts.

>>23802559
>Sarah boldly declares she wants to be in the middle of a Kamille-Scirocco sandwich
>Scirocco drops his spaghetti
>Kamille probably thought she was going to like, confess to Scirocco and not try to get him in a three-way with her and his less hot-headed male rival
Okay that’s not what I was expecting, but if we really need to make a freaky newtype polycule to counter the one over at Axis we’re well on our way lmao

>>23802559
I-im not feeling so sure about this one now bros...

>>23802559
Kamille and Scirroco are both going "WHAT?" at this revelation.
Kamille: "That's not what I thought she was going to say!"
Scirroco: "Me either!"

>>23802559

>Sarah: All of us make mistakes, Master Paptimus. There are things Kamille has done I can't agree with...there are things that I have trouble sleeping at night knowing I have done...you don't have to be any different! It was because you allowed Kamille to follow us that all of this-
>Scirocco: Ghhh...!!
>Sarah: M-Mast-
>Scirocco: What is my "dream", Kamille? Ha...hahaha! You think that you can undermine me through head games, you moronic child?! That you can make me cast doubt over my own resolve just because-
>Sarah: You want a future where all of mankind can live as they see fit, while respecting and growing from one another regardless of their differences. A world where humanity will willingly embrace advancing for their collective benefit. That is world I want to see as well...and I know Kamille also-
>Scirocco: Repugnant...!

As that single word escapes Scirocco's mouth, Kamille feels a cold shiver running down his spine, as if he had just heard Scirocco's true voice for the first time.

>Kamille: Sarah, I think he understands what you-
>Scirocco: What repulse trite. What a heinous sham! Every single word you fed into her, each one more festering and diseased than the last! You think I would be pathetic enough to allow myself to seep into the same muddied, filthy ideals that lead mankind into its pitiful state?! "Unity"?! "Self-Governance"?! The human race is destined to fall into an age of ignorance and deviancy, as it always has before when a genius arises to grant them eyes to read knowledge! Mouths to speak wisdom! Ears to hear truth!

For the first time, Sarah and Kamille heard not the voice of the proclaimed genius who stood above the common man, but instead broken pitched, deep-seated anger of a man terrified of doubting his own "truth".

>Kamille: Scirocco...!
>Scirocco: You are a living disease, Kamille Bidan. One that will perpetuate humanities endless pursuit of failure and self destruction...and tried to creep that filth in my mind!

>>23802626
Oh no. But somehow conflict was inevitable. Question being, is it okay to have it this soon?

>>23802626
Damn it! Though I wonder if Scirocco here is actually speaking his own words here or the Psycho Gundam infected his mind somehow. At the very least its better to have Scirocco break things off and make it clear we are not friends in a long-distance way like this rather than with a knife in our back.

>>23802626
Well if you're gonna be this retarded Scirocco I guess Sarah is just gonna only suck one dick then

>>23802631

We already sent the Psycho gundam to hell, so its Scirocco's mask slipping off.

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>>23802626
>For the first time, Sarah and Kamille heard not the voice of the proclaimed genius who stood above the common man, but instead broken pitched, deep-seated anger of a man terrified of doubting his own "truth".
Well, I get it. He lived through fucking Jupiter and Crux Dogatie. You're going to hit a breaking there quickly.

>>23802626
>>23802631
I'm sure these are Scirocco's own words. Kamille finally managed to break down the emotional and mental walls Scirocco put between him and everyone else. Kamille and Sarah are now seeing the true core of the Jovian so to say.

Scirocco however has been deeply angered by this. Somehow someway some brat he found and wanted to turn into a personal weapon one upped him and put him on the back foot. Despite not even being a schemer or planner like him. Essentially Scirocco got beat at his own game and he's pissed. He's going to be very angry for awhile, but who knows what he'll be like when he calms down a bit.

>>23802639
Maybe he can be Richard again.

>>23802638
I imagine having your emotions forcibly dragged out of you after living your entire life with a cold distant persona is incredibly upsetting. Hell Scirocco is probably being mindbroken right now by the genuine concern and affection Kamille and Sarah respectfully have for him.

>>23802636
We most certainly did not there is currently a prototype rampaging through our high command in Africa. For all we know a small bit could have still existed in the Psycommu that latched onto Scirocco as it was destroyed.
>>23802639
Here's the thing though he was described as
>but instead broken pitched, deep-seated anger of a man terrified of doubting his own "truth".
Even if these are his own words or if they're being amplified by something involving the Psycho Gundam Scirocco is shaky on if what his original internal thoughts were is correct or wrong now, he's lashing out because he wants those internal thoughts to be correct because if they're wrong, he's done thing's he can't justify. He seems to think our ideas have merit but can't stand it since he's done so much for his ideas this is certainly the 3/5 influence we have with him working he hates that he sees our side as potentially correct, if get even 1 more point with him somehow there's a real chance he'll flip to seeing us as correct and that is outward mask as the better feature than his inward plan.

>>23802559
>>23802626
Holy shit I didn't expect things to unfold like this. This is much better than just flipping him off, he got genuinely angry at Sarah breaking him down with pure honesty.
I still kind of hope Syrupman will eventually find enough reason to come around and join us, but if he doesn't, then that's fine I guess. We got to screw him over by just being honest and not manipulating his subordinates, kek

>>23802649
>>23802650
I think the best part about this is how Scirocco is having to grapple with Kamille genuinely seeing him as a friend. Kamille wouldn't have had Sarah speak about her true feelings if he wasn't genuinely concerned Scirocco and his relationship with Sarah. Kamille doesn't get people's loyalty just to use them for his own goals like Scirocco, he actually cares about them personally like Jerid or Four.

That fact is making Scirocco realize that he never had to isolate himself or use people like he does. All this time Syrupman could've had true companionship and friends. A truth he thought completely impossible has been shoved in his face.

>>23802656
Your post reminds me of how Lex Luthor once was told that Superman is Clark Kent, and the baldie simply could not accept that idea at all, believing that any man with such power would lord it over others and not use it to help and be nice.

>>23802660
Spot on. Scirocco refuses to believe that Kamille isn't lording his powers over those around him. So he's deluding himself into saying that Kamille is controlling Sarah trying to manipulate him.

It's pretty funny to think that Scirocco thought Kamille was intentionally mind controlling Jerid into doing his bidding though.

Showing the power of friendship and (polyamorous) love to Syrope is cool and all, but these mental walls.. these emotional blockades aren't coming down peacefully, we need to be reaaal careful about this.
The kid inside Scirocco is crying, can we /m/en save him?

>>23802626

>Sarah: You...don't believe any of that-
>Scirocco: Y-you actually think that "you" are the kind of woman that would make a tangible difference, Sarah? You are a pet. A creature that lacks its own autonomy, and exists only because it amuses those who allowed it live. If you weren't such an adorable genetic mutt, your life would have ended the same as the rest of the "women" that forced me to exist to clean up the mess humanity created! Kamille, you can't be allowed to-

Scirocco's voice hitches as he looks upon Sarah's crestfallen, horrified expression at his description of her. Unable to look at her any longer out of his barely contained shame, Scirocco looks back to Kamille, his voice stabilizing.

>Scirocco:...I seek absolutely everything you stand against, boy. You, and everyone aboard that ship, only existed to suit my needs. Just what exactly would happen if I reported your "treason"? Just who would believe your innocence above-
>Kamille: Just go back to Jupiter. Go back to where ever mankind isn't inconveniencing you any longer...because I am going to give Sarah that world she thought you wanted-
>Scirocco: You can't attack Granada! If you do, Axis will-

Ripping the data reader from the wall, Kamille chucks it against the view screen in a moment of quiet, yet focused anger.

>Kamille: Sarah, I didn't...mean for any of that to-
>Sarah: Forgive him.
>Kamille: How can you-

Sarah slumps to the floor, clutching her knees as she rocks herself.

[Scirocco is now on a mission]

>>23802690
Holy shit, Scirocco. The fuck?
>Also Axis.
Just fuck.

>>23802690
Shit, he really is going to end up like a Christopher Lee character.

>>23802690
This Scirocco slaps you can actively see him fighting his own internal battle with himself here, he hates what he's saying to Sarah and even after saying that he and Kamille are diametrically opposed still tries to warn us about why attacking Granada is a bad idea.

I really hope we don't end up at irresolvable blows with him we've turned him into our shonen rival now hopefully the rivalry doesn't end with one of us dead.

>>23802631
Everything Scirocco said here is just what he believed in canon, so I don't think he is under anyone's compulsion. He just got majorly spooked that
A) even someone as loyal as Sarah doesn't believe in his vision, and
B) we managed to implant a tiny amount of self-doubt into his supposedly perfect mind

>>23802697
>>23802690
>Scirocco: You can't attack Granada! If you do, Axis will-
Does literally everyone but Kamille and Jerid know that Axis is coming? It's the problem literally everyone seems to be preparing for, while our crew is moving ahead with their own desires to change the world.
>>23802705
Kamille didn't even lose influence with Scirocco here, whatever the case Syrupman still sees him and Sarah as valuable. Let's just hope whatever mission Scirocco is sending himself on isn't to sabotage and stop us.

Also if the time comes and Scirocco is genuinely showing guilt and repentance for his actions. We should have Kamille forgive him. Every hurtful thing said here was to put back the walls Scirocco had between himself and everyone else. Despite that though he feels genuine shame and guilt doing it.

>>23803036
>Kamille didn't even lose influence with Scirocco here
I've been arguing for a couple of threads now that our influence system with Scirocco specifically has been disabled, ever since we got that message about our relationship changing permanently or however Copy phrased it. I don't expect to see our influence rise or fall with him again. That doesn't mean diplomacy with him is impossible (well, it might be now), just that the -5/+5 scores and associated effects can no longer be obtained.

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Scirocco is going to run off to Axis like a coward, try to groom Mineva, and get in on the S Rank Newtype Polycule™ over there.

>>23803078
You're probably right. Part of me is coping, hoping we can get the triad of Kamille, Jerid, and Scirocco leading the Titans. All of them covering each others weaknesses and all that. Now let's hope that the New Desides are willing to play ball with their Military Junta once Kamille's forced conquer the moon.

Regarding Scirocco let's hope we can at least parlay with him. If we can't get him to go along with our plans or join us, maybe we can just get him to give up and leave? Because killing Scirocco would just lead to Sarah going catatonic and Sydle hating us.

>>23803303
>hoping we can get the triad of Kamille, Jerid, and Scirocco leading the Titans
would've been nice to have a nice Triumvirate. But Scirocco is hard to tard wrangle.

>>23803104

Considering how emotionally pathetic Amuro Char and Scirocco have been I am worried how Haman is going to be acting.

>>23803303
It's gonna be really hard to tardwrangle Scirocco enough to convince him to join us. Very hard, but not impossible at this point. He's clearly willing to reason with us enough to try to warn us about Axis even when he's seething for being genuinely exposed for the first time, so he still holds Kamille in some regard. Another problem is that Jerid fucking hates Syrupman, we'd essentially have to tardwrangle these two retards into playing nice.

>>23803305
>>23803314
You know when this run began I was really expecting Kamille having to deal with being turned into a living weapon against his will. Dealing with Titans leadership making him do things he didn't wanna do. I didn't expect Kamille to fully go all in on the Titans and end up tard wrangling them into being an efficient fighting force and stopping infighting.

>>23803303
Scirocco is just a power hungry motherfucker that would probably backstab us before we reached that endgame.
I'm hoping and coping that Fa is wrong about Jerid and we will be able to share leadership of whatever's left of the Titans in the end. It would be shit to have to kill him off when this is the best ally Jerid we've probably ever had in /m/ plays.

>>23803387
Even better than Supreme Uncle Jerid from Gumdom's Titans Amuro run?

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>>23803387
If Kamille ever ends up having to kill Jerid to survive he and this thread is absolutely going to be distraught. Teaming up with Jerid and setting him on the right path is literally representative of getting on the right track and honoring Lila's wishes. That all being for nothing would destroy Kamille as he is now. Pic related.

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>>23802690

>Kilimanjaro Officer 1: Send anyone! Send anything! Why isn't anyone else coming?!
>Kilimanjaro Officer 2: T-the Gundam...it will be here any minute now...!
>Kilimanjaro Officer 3: We need to escape from here! Jamitov be damned!
>Kilimanjaro Officer 1: If we do that, all of us would be branded as deserters-
>Kilimanjaro Officer 3: Better a living Deserter than a corpse to the pile that thing is making outside-

Tunneling its way into the inner bowels of the now tattered Kilimanjaro fortress, the Prototype Psycho Gundam releases a deafening hiss from its frame, with the Burstliner welded to its arm readying for another shot. Having learned the truth of Reccoa being forced into the heinous Mobile Suits cockpit, Roberto's Dijeh attempts to stop her psychotic rampage.

>Roberto: The base is completely crushed! Reccoa, stop! If you fire at that range, you'll be caught in the blast as well! Reccoa-

The center of Kilimanjaro explodes as Reccoa fires a point-blank shot into the fortress, annihilating her own allies and the Titans forces in the immediate vicinity. His Dijeh now catastrophically damaged, Roberto reaches for his left arm, finding it warped into the melted frame of his Mobile Suit. Slumping out from the burning debris around him, a single Hizack raises its heat hawk for his cockpit.

>Titan Pilot: Z-Zeon scum!
>Roberto: Azul Stel...damn you to hell-

With a swinging of the heat hawk, Roberto's life is brought to an end.

[Roberto has died. Darota has died.]

>>23803859
Never go on Gamma Glipheptin.

>>23803859
Good god, how long is that stim in Reccoa going to last?

>>23803877
Until she crashes out and dies. If the Psycho Gundam doesn't interfere, that is.

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>>23803859

Having lost his loyalist in the destruction caused by Reccoa's rampage and with his personal shuttle annihilated, the Supreme Commander of the Titans finds himself with only Beltorchika at his side as he limps for an emergency bunker in the deepest layer of the base.

>Jamitov: That Mobile Suit...was I betrayed? Murasame's research was supposed to have been-
>Beltorchika: Just what happens next?
>Jamitov: We survive...until Bask's forces can arrive to settle this. This army played a strong hand...but I will not die. Not today-

*BANG*

A bullet rips through Jamitov's chest, with Beltorchika quivering from her split-decision to finally act against the delusional leader of the Titans. Reaching for the freshly torn hole in his chest, Jamitov loses his balance as he collapses to the ground. Losing her grip on the handgun she had taken from one of the dead in the base, Beltorchika begins to scream towards the dying Elder.

>Beltorchika: How many lives have you ruined?! How many more would you have condemned to death had you been allowed to survive?!
>Jamitov:...Why? How...?! Without me...the world will be-
>Beltorchika: You are wrong! You have always been completely wrong! You stole so many lives, and allowed men as evil and depraved as the Zabi's to take power! You...deserved all of this! You deserve a death far worse than-

An overwhelming pain strikes Beltorchika's head, causing her to tumble onto her back.

>Beltorchika: A-ah...! It...is coming here...!! T-the monster-

The ceiling above Jamitov and Beltorchika begins to be parted, with a flag on the wall falling to envelop Beltorchika's body. Unable to move, Jamitov is faced with the martially melted head of the Prototype Psycho Gundam, its exposed eye camera's shifting towards the covered Beltorchika.

>Jamitov: Who...is in that cockpit...?! That...girl that-

The hulking Mobile Suit's camera's lock back onto Jamitov, with its functioning hand taking hold of his dying body.

>>23803859
NO! Darota who will remember Garma now?

>>23803900

>Reccoa?: [IT WAS YOU]
>Jamitov: W-where is that voice coming from...?! Why is it-

As Jamitov's body is moved closer to the partially melted cockpit of the Prototype Psycho Gundam, his mind is flooded by the suffering of those he had condoned to a hellish fate beyond a simple death. Of the thousands of youth's sacrificed on the altar of his desire for "Newtypes." In that moment...Jamitov had felt the fear of something far beyond the realm of humanity. The head-cockpit of the Prototype Psycho Gundam begins to unlock, molten metal dripping into the shape of sharpened teeth as he is made to look upon the now fully demented and chemically enslaved Reccoa Londe.

>Jamitov: It...was necessary-

*CRUNCH*

[Jamitov has died]

Closing the cockpit onto Jamitov's body, Reccoa feels her body being filled with a incomprehensible ecstasy. One strong enough to offset the unfathomable agony of her degenerating organs. Pulling itself out from the ruins of the fortress, the Prototype Psycho Gundam stands completely idle even as the remnants of the Titans and Karaba continue to engage one another.

>Reccoa?: I have...the power now...!! The power to never...be used by a man ever again!! Amuro...! Char...! And...Kamille...!! I will strip them of their humanity...just as they would have done to me!! Wrrrryyyy!!!

Just as Doan's Dom destroys a retaliating Hizack, the sight of the rampaging machine Azul had claimed to be a final resort leaves the Ex-Zeon disillusioned yet again.

>Doan: (Just what are we even fighting for at this point?)

>>23803900
Uncle Hymen! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>23803936
Rip in piss Jamitov, you won't be missed. Hopefully Beltorchika doesn't get captured by the AEUG, Amuro needs more unfortunate souls to feed to the Psycho Gundam antichrist
I find it rather funny that Amuro somehow convinced Doan to come out of retirement, enlist him into his super sekrit special force with the sole purpose of stopping the Titans, then proceeds to escalate the everloving shit out of the war to the point of arguably doing even worse shit than the Titans. Doan must be really wishing he had just stayed home right about now.