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Previous Thread: >>23823378

>List of subbed series
https://tokusubs.wikia.com/wiki/Tokusubs_Wiki

>Direct Download Links
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>/krg/ archives
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>RideChemy Card Database
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>DO NOT MAKE A NEW THREAD UNTIL PAGE 8 OR IMAGE LIMIT
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Post your initial impressions on Zeztz Exdream.
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How's your current mood/enthusiasm for My-th?
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>death game battle royale where a vtuber is stringing her fans along into being riders, having them kill eachother for a chance to meet her
>ends with it turning out she was actually a hideous monster, and the big bad final boss all along
Would you watch a rider season like this? I'm too lazy to type everything I thought up for it but thats the tldr. Honestly would be a good lesson for kids. Don't get too obsessed with vtubers.
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>>23825726
Legitimately way better than I was expecting and it's my favorite Zeztz upgrade in terms of design, really hope he has a cool fighting style to compliment

>>23825729
I like My-Th's helmet but I'm still mostly neutral towards it since we don't know the writer, Takebe is irresponsible and inconsistent yet she somehow manages to make great shows most of the time but that has a lot to do with the writer she picks

>>23825775
Like the leaks said he mostly looks the same so I feel nothing, he still has the worst color schemes out of the 4 rivals from Zeztz, but I admit I do like that a villain's upgrade is basically getting bloodshot eyes
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>>23825775
Hasn't he only transformed once, and not lost that fight?
Zeztz is just full to bursting of these completely unnecessary forms, and it doesn't even have that many forms.
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>>23825774
No
Kamen Rider has already managed to make vtubers evil a few times
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>>23825774
I don't feel like it's enough of a premise to carry a show, but I could see it working for a recurring villain general
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Man, I just hit episode 35 with Gavv. It's starting to show that the Stomachs aren't interesting villains. Lango has zero fucking personality and the rest are just as forgettable
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https://x.com/handakento/status/2046197749759299796?s=20
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>>23825802
Yeah it's the show biggest weakness and causes the final episode to unironically be one of the worst in the franchise
Still managed to be really great show due to everything else around it being great, at least for me
The writer legitimately sucks at handling big casts, I think that there was a post before the show aired on another forum that predicted this exact thing would happen
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>>23825774
Don't think it necessarily needs to be one of the PvP seasons, especially since Vtubers are more like parasocial cults than they are competing for paypigs.
I think if you want to make it explicit that the behavior is unhealthy and thus make it a dark, battle royale season that perhaps a better avenue is that the Riders all have a separate Vtuber they're supporting, the Vtubers are ostensibly friendly amongst each other but in direct competition causing in-fighting amongst the Riders (from what I can tell, influencers tend towards being superficially nice to each other and pouncing if they get a chance), and the twist is that they're actually all part of the same organization. It could make for a sort of message that the Riders' devotion to their main "support" line causes them to lose sight of the reality (trusting the voice in their ear more than the other Rider right next to them). It could be a generalized message about screen addiction used with Vtubers as an element?
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>>23825802
>>23825815
I think I found it
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>>23825823
>>23825815
Another forum? everyone predicted that
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>>23825825
No here before the show aired people were saying that it would have generic motw and not have a proper story because it was falseflaggers that hadn't watched any of her previous shows besides Wizard, it was around episode 6 that people actually started talking about her focus problem in /krg/ because it was people that actually watched her previous shows.
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>>23825825
>>23825828
Here's the first mention of Komura's focus problem for Gavv that I could find: https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/22974530/#q22976433
But I'm pretty sure someone had said so earlier during the show's run only using other words
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>>23825828
>because it was falseflaggers that hadn't watched any of her previous shows besides Wizard
What the fuck are you on about?
People were complaining the moment it was rumored and later revealed.
>it would have generic motw and not have a proper story
That's literally one of the main issues with her two most recent shows, LuPat and Zenkaiger. People also mentioned the focus issue, just lurk the archives
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iirc They usually list the main writer during the initial staff reveal but we didn't find out until the early bird cameo that she was the main writer.
It's kinda like they were hiding it for some reason
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>>23825846
It was problem with LuPat and Healing Precure, Zenkaiger didn't really have the generic motw issue
>just lurk the archive
That's what I did for the press conference thread and people were just saying the whole "no plot" over again rather than the focus issue, managed to find an earlier post that talked about the focus: https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/22957486/#22959811
But this is the only post that actually complained about focus before Gavv aired and no one replied to him: https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/22777991/#22780194
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>>23825856
Takebe did that for Gaim so it seems like something she does sometimes for some reason
Really hope she doesn't do that this time unless we get a big name writer like when she did Gaim
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>>23825774
Kids don't care about vtubers. They care about streamers.
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>>23825815
>unironically be one of the worst in the franchise
Enormous insane stretch in my opinion. Stuff like Decade's last episode is not only just a bad final episode, but was morally so wrong they got in trouble for it. Ghost and Wizard also have pretty horrible final episodes (to be clear I'm not counting the Gaim preview episodes of Wizard). Gavv's last episode stinks since it's just an encapsulation of a lot of the fuck ups the show made, but like I said, it's not almost show-ruining like Decade and it's not just a deeper extension of a show's complete mediocrity like Ghost and Wizard's
Funnily enough I think Revice actually managed to have one of the stronger final episodes in Reiwa.
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>>23825868
Fair enough, for me the worst final episode is Hibiki's due to everything surrounding Kiriya and The Man and The Woman
Revice's final episode is one of the two only good episodes of its second half, all in all despite Revice being a bad show the final episode at least gave some good emotional closure to Ikki, specially if you see him as a person with alzheimer
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>>23825875
>Fair enough, for me the worst final episode is Hibiki's due to everything surrounding Kiriya and The Man and The Woman
Oh fuck I actually forgot how bad that episode was, I think my brain just unsurprisingly blocks off the back stretch of Hibiki. That might honestly be the objective worst final episode in the franchise honestly, yeah Decade's caused an external shitshow but holy fuck that Hibiki finale is grim.

>specially if you see him as a person with alzheimer
I finished Revice recently, haven't said much since I figure everything has already been said but damn, this made me just want to say I wish the show focused way more on Ikki's memory loss. I think the way they introduced it was great with him disappearing from the photos but then it basically becomes a non-issue until it suddenly gets really really fucking bad towards the end. I think Ikki kind of stinks as an MC (not really his fault, it's not like he's given much to work with or do lol) but man the way the show handled is memory loss at the end actually had me feeling for him pretty intensely.
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>>23825883
Yeah honestly when the memory loss started I thought it was just going to be a diet version of Zeronos but the execution in the end actually made it feel like a family dealing with a member with alzheimers which was one of the few things in Revice that I felt tied well with the family theming
I wonder who came up with the idea, I assume it wasn't planned from the beginning with how late it was introduced
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So is the Agent Minami miniseries still relevant to the main show after the dream reset and the reveal of her not actually being Baku's blood relative? I guess it was a teaser the whole time.
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>>23825889
>I wonder who came up with the idea, I assume it wasn't planned from the beginning with how late it was introduced
I mean Ikki starts disappearing from photos really early, I don't have an exact episode obviously but I'm willing to credit Kinoshita for that idea since it really did seem like it was planned from the jump.
But like I said, the problem is the show totally stops worrying about it for like 80% of the runtime, which yeah I get it, it's meant to be the setpiece for the finale but still, could have touched on it just a bit more.
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>>23825802
The Stomachs are decent but after Q3 they just kinda meander. I kept thinking it would've been better if they followed the Showa formula of switching generals and plans instead of "Lango is in charge, everyone else does things sometimes". And I'm saying that as somebody who likes Lango being a clueless CEO for the most part.
>>23825868
Exactly, Gavv's last episode is just boring and a redo of the earlier confrontation, it's not atrociously bad as the ones you mentioned, Hibiki, Kiva, or the last Showa series, where they knock down a pillar and blow themselves up.
There's an antiKomura schizo (medically confirmed) in these threads that constantly spams how horrible she is while falseflagging like crazy.
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>>23825894
>The Stomachs are decent but after Q3 they just kinda meander. I kept thinking it would've been better if they followed the Showa formula of switching generals and plans instead of "Lango is in charge, everyone else does things sometimes". And I'm saying that as somebody who likes Lango being a clueless CEO for the most part.

That was the actual intention of the writer. The Stomach were all supposed to be killed in the 20s and then replaced by a different group, but Takebe like the Stomach's actors and asked to keep their characters around for longer.

>>23825893
The problem with this is that the early foreshadowing kind of falls flat because it had Vice laughing at Ikki's image disappearing, so it doesn't line up at all with what happens when they bring it back, and now Vice was supposed to be worried about him all along, but fearing talking about it because he feared Ikki would blame him for it.
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>>23825823
That is literally the issue with Gavv, the Stomachs don't even appear much during the whole Dark Shoma story which was really pointless
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>>23825930
The characters at least develop during that time, when people say that Komura's shows have no story they mean that it has no progression at all
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I just want a good back and forth 1v1 final battle, I'm so tried of one-sided stomps or team shit
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>>23825932
>>23825729
I'm still confused, does My-Th have a chest belt or is it the tertiary Wolf Rider that does?
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Honestly the Stomachs remind me of the Three High Priests, during most of Black's run the show didn't have a proper head writer so due to the lack of story progression they came off as largely incompetent
The Stomachs are pretty similar, they were all meant to die in the first half then replaced by another faction which makes sense since Komura is a fan of Showa toku, but instead they live without their characters getting expanded upon so they come off as incompetent, then what was originally planned as the final fight ends up happening in episode 48 while the final fight is just something cobbled up together at the last minute which reminds me of what happened with Agito's final arc
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>>23825907
This makes no sense to me, The Stomach family as villains have the emotional connection of being Gavv's family, Why get rid of that half way through the show? Even if you don't like them, it would have been such as waste.
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>>23825945
I mean, the story is just going through the motions. Half the plot is focused on character stuff, while the other half is some bullshit motw.
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>>23825699
He's worked as a radio host, a sports commentator, and a narrator.
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>>23825783
Takahashi did the same shit during Geats.
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>>23826001
It's because Komura is bad at handling multiple characters and it seems she understands that to a degree, the original plan was for the Stomachs to die one after another rather than just stop after Shiita, having them all dead by the end of the first half
Then the second half would have been focused on a second mafia taking over the dark treats operation
Also instead of the clone art the original plan was for Vram to be an undercover government agent and to have the cast travel to the Granute world, it's why the poster for that arc looks like this
However all of this was scrapped and instead only two villains from the second organization remained the final draft, Bocca and Lizelle, who had now been rewritten to be the president of the Granute world and his daughter to compensate not being able to explore the Granute world in full like it was originally planned
I have no idea what was their original plan for Suga since I don't think they ever mentioned it, I remember a leak that said that Bitter Gavv was originally going to be more of a parasite and there was only meant to be one clone of Shouma rather than multiple but I don't know if this was some scrapped plan or just a coincidental fake leak
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>>23825861
I don't think you know what V-Tubers do.
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>>23826028
Also I suppose that one of the reasons they wanted to abandon the Stomach stuff was because it was a leftover from the show's original theme which was The Little Mermaid, the whole mafia stuff was suggested by the show's vice producer after the snack theme had been decided then the head producer decided on the whole "drafting people to another world and using drugs to keep them in check" after she saw a documentary on mafias kidnapping children and using them as soldiers
I guess the staff wanted to lean more on that than the family stuff?
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Rank Zi-O's armors. No Zi-O II, Trinity, Grand or Oma.
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>>23826040
Wizard > Fourze > OOO > Gaim > Woz > Decade > W > Ex-Aid > Kiva > 555 > Hibiki > Ghost > Drive > Ryuki > Den-O > Build > Agito > Kabuto > Blade > Kuuga
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>>23825726
I'm not feeling it. I was hoping the suits would gradually get better in Zeztz but they're all just kind of boring. It's not really a season that has suits that leans into its themes so it needed something special to really stand out but it's just not there. Exdream even gives me Chinese hero vibes with the colouring.
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>>23825775
lame colored tape powerup. Cheapskate Toei at it again.
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>>23825819
I'm starting to hate these Ironman shots so fucking much.
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>>23825726
This is so much better than Catastrom.
>>23825729
Praying the ears aren't actually that big, but it sounds okay.
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>>23825729
What is even the theme here? Will it be fables like Den-O?
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>>23825907
>That was the actual intention of the writer. The Stomach were all supposed to be killed in the 20s and then replaced by a different group
I'm aware. It is to me the only flaw Gavv has other than the final episode. I don't mind them staying around and all dying in quick succession at the end, but it should at least feel earned. Juggling "what are they up to" with "Bocca is the new big bad" just didn't work. The movie AU showing them together reminded me of what we got robbed of.
>>23826001
It could have very easily worked in the intended allegory framework of yamibaito. Stomachs die so Gavv thinks "problem solved" but somebody else picks up, and now you have the message that solving a problem like that isn't as easy as just getting the current people in charge, it's a structural problem and there'll always be another one ready to take advantage of others.
Obviously I don't know if that's exactly what they had in mind, but it absolutely works as a "new start" for Gavv and would allow for more development of the other characters as well as Bocca and Lizel which... ended up just being generic bad people. Hell, you could even tie that into whatever was going on with Suga.
Killing the Stomachs would've opened the door (heh) for more interesting storytelling for the rest of it since he wouldn't be chained to his family anymore.
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>>23825775
Wasnt this supposed to be a Nox upgrade or was that just a missed assumption?
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>>23825729
Between the following writers
>Shoji Yonemura
>Nobuhiro Mouri
>Jin Haganeya
>Junko Komura
>Kaori Kaneko
>Hiroki Uchida
>Mari Takura
>Kento Shimoyama
Who would you prefer the most to write My-th and who would you prefer the least?
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>>23826099
Missed assumption, Nox's upgrade is the one in this OP >>23823378
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>>23826084
Rumors are saying just animals again.
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>>23826113
That would be lame, Geats didn't really do anything interesting with the animal motif unlike OOO
Zero-One at least had the whole biblical parallels and both Saber and Revice just sort of had animals as a side motif
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Should I get the kid's action figure or the sodo for Zeztz(Impact)?
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>>23826130
Get the figuarts.
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>>23826134
Its sold out in mandarake which is why im going for the alternatives
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>>23826139
https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=FIGURE-190950
It's in stock, brand new, and on sale at amiami.
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>>23825952
What is this supposed to be?
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ROUND ZERO, HAJIMATTERU

I do find it funny how the logical concept to explore with the world of Blade is if BOARD was actually a company with one team for each suit of cards, down to the riders having to be approved in order to transform. Meanwhile Tsukasa here ascending the ranks like nothing and he can play outside the rules of the company too.
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>>23826143
The summer movie form
As for its name and motif we don't know
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>>23826142
Oh shit nice, thanks anon
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Not to be the friend who is too woke, but I hope the next heroine is not another teenager, I dont feel like entering my /tv/ arc
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Yes Tsukasa you destroyed this world, by fighting for work ethics in BOARD. (he does say that it's apparently what he's told, but really so far he's been helping the Riders save themselves and their worlds). Btw I wonder what the thought process was behind the final form rides, Kuuga and Ryuki are based on an important creature related to the rider, while Kiva and Blade are just weapons (the former also having Kivat there too).
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>>23826172
Isn't Nem canonically 20 years old or are you talking about the actress?
Most female leads are college students so I doubt the next one will be young but I really don't care about their age what matters is that they're decent actresses
Now what I'm hoping is that the female lead isn't the female tertiary
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Put on the ZEZTZ Driver, Baku.
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>>23826192
From my understanding Decade was made on a cheaper budget since it was going to have a shorter run, originally W was supposed to air after Kiva but it was shelved
It's why Decade's forms are just him transforming on past riders, for the final form ride I guess they have the budget to make new props for some Riders but not all which is why some use existing things like Drageder
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>>23826196
We should unnironically get another fem secondary
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>>23826201
t. Minato
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You see the reason for this is actually symbolic meta commentary, it's referencing and mocking online westoid fans (who now have greater access to KR with the global simustream) that keep clamoring for Nem to be a rider and female riders in general. As expected from the sick twisted fucked up mind of Yuya Takahashi.
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>>23826199
First time hearing that W was supposed to air after Kiva, is there an interview or design document that talks about this? It'd be cool to read about it.

And yeah I can see that, Gouram and Dragreder for Kuuga and Ryuki make a lot of sense given they're just models touched up a bit for the CGI, and Blade's... Blade form looked pretty cheap by comparison.

Also hell yeah, I finished the show early this year so I wanna see what Decade did with it, going from the preview this might be proto Fourze with the school setting.
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>>23826205
All that I remember is this concept art supposedly done before Decade
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I was thinking about potential kind of girls for a fem main rider when it hit me, how come we havent seen a single sporty type modern tomboy character in the like 20 years the archetype has existed in Rider, what is wrong with Toei
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>>23826205

It's a bit of a misunderstanding. W's production did start earlier than usual but not before Decade's.

>-Discussion of the post-Decade series began in Spring of 2008, before Decade even aired.

>-Decade was to be a "party" series, and Toei staff had to figure out how to avoid the "post-party crash" with the series that would follow it. Rather than having a concrete concept in mind, this was the primary issue around which early production was centered.


>-Tsukada decided that they should go back to the roots of Kamen Rider, and visited Ishimori Pro to discuss with them "What does Kamen Rider mean?" Ishimori Pro's representitive was Tajima Hideki, who worked on Ultraman Tiga and joined Ishimori Pro on the 2001 Cyborg 009.

>-The first directive Tajima laid out was that Kamen Rider is "a hero born from evil". The second is that Ishinomori heroes don't like fighting, that they are "crying heroes," as evidenced by the "tear lines" that appear in their mask designs. They also talked about the trademark scarf.

>-They went through several design motifs, and both Toei and Ishimori Pro wanted to work with the keywords "Kamen Rider-eqsue" and "simple." The chief designer was PLEX's Kobayashi Daisuke (Faiz, Hibiki, Kabuto, Decade)


>-While this was going on, they were getting various concepts from the toy department. The head of development from Bandai was Takahashi Hideyuki, who came up with the Engine Souls from Go-Onger. He wanted to use a similar concept of sticking small sound units into a henshin belt. They thought it might be more interesting if there were two units to insert instead of one.

>-The motif was finalized by Summer of 2008, around the time the Kiva movie was out.

http://reggiocomics.blogspot.com/2010/10/scans-kamen-rider-double-character.html

http://forum.henshinjustice.com/threads/kamen-rider-w-double-talk-up.41236/page-691#post-1126597
http://forum.henshinjustice.com/threads/kamen-rider-w-double-talk-up.41236/page-693#post-1128748
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>>23826215
Somehow, "W started production before Decade aired" ended up becoming misunderstood as "W stared production before Decade's production started".
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>>23826204
PogNem
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>>23826215
>>23826217
Ahh I see, that explains it much better.
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>>23826215
>>23826217
Thank you very much for correcting me, I was confused
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>>23826192
>while Kiva and Blade are just weapons (the former also having Kivat there too).
Blade Blade is based on Blade's Blayrouzer, the Kiva Arrow's arrow is shaped like Kiva's unchained leg.

About half the FFRs are CGI helper transformations and the other half are weapons (well, Hibiki's is kind of both). And then there's Den-O's...
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>>23826139
>>23826130
Figuarts is still up on numerous spots
Hobby Genki, Nin Nin Games, Amiami, I think even BBTS tho it's more
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>>23826192
Decade is dominated by meta narrative. The Great Leader of Shocker isn't supposed to be a hero, so all the good he does is twisted into evil instead. The only way he can fix things is by fulfilling his role and destroying all Riders, then dying. This restores everything to how it was before.
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>>23825868
Wizard's finale had Gremlin as the final boss and had the balls to keep Koyomi dead, Gavv's is much more mediocre than it.
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Reposting Takebe's previous reasonings for hiring writers
>Blade: head producer Jun Hikasa wanted to hire Junki Takegami but he was occupied, stumped vice producer Takebe suggested Shouji Imai because he had sent a request to write Kamen Rider to TV Asahi and she liked the drama Kasai Chousakan Kurenai Renjirou written by him
>Kiva: She wanted to make a romance centric toku so she hired Toshiki Inoue because he wrote Jetman
>OOO: Takebe had been friends with Yasuko Kobayashi since the 90s back when she was an assistant producer and Kobayashi an assistant writer, the joined up to come up with Mega Black's character in Megaranger which impressed head producer Takatera enough to hire Kobayashi as head writer for his next show, so due to their friendship she hired her
>Go-Busters: Since Takebe had decided that the show would be subdued by Sentai standards and she likes Kobayashi she hired her again since she's experience with toku that emphasize drama
>Gaim: Kivat's voice actor Tomokazu Sugita suggested Gen Urobuchi as a writer to Takebe, she isn't into visual novels but decided to at least watch Madoka Magica and Psycho-Pass, she ended up loving those shows so she hired him
>Ninninger: Kento Shimoyama and Nobuhiro Mouri entered the tokusatsu industry due to a recommendation by Kobayashi, since she suggested Takebe to hire him she picked him
>Amazon Last Judgement: Head Producer Shin-ichiro Shirakura was more lax in the production and left her to decide several key things, since Shirakura had decided that story would revolve around a battle royale competition she picked Yuya Takahashi since he wrote the video game Rider Ex-Aid
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>>23826321
>Dino Force Brave: Once again Shirakura was lax so she picked Shimoyama, this was because back during Ninninger due to the overwhelming negative response and half of its run celebrating Sentai's anniversary it was decided to have an arc with previous ninja heroes, she was surprised at how little fight Shimoyama put up with the changes and just decided to adapt, Takebe now seeing him as a "flexible writer" in her eyes decided to hire her for this since the show was a sequel/reimagining of an existing season
>Zi-O: After Shirakura's initial ideas got rejected due to budget he just sort of gave up for the first quarter and had her and head director Ryuta Tasaki decide several core aspects of the show, since it was decided that the show would have returning actors but have scripts be written just vague enough that they can adapt it to whoever actor they're able to get back, she picked Shimoyama due to his "flexibility"
>Geats: Same logic as Last Judgement, she hire Takahashi due to the "gamified Battle Royale setting" due to his expertise with video game Riders
>Gavv: While she was serving as vice producer for Zenkaiger she befriended the head writer of that show, Junko Komura, and thus she decided to hire based on their friendship
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>>23826192
>>23826199
The Final Form Rides were a toyline of action figures where the Riders transformed into their FFR versions, so the choices were based on what could work as an action figure transformation, aside from Den-O's, where the show partially ignored the toy.
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Is Dragon Knight good, bros? How different is it from Ryuki? I'm so surprised how much Japan loves it, I see people wanting a CSM v buckle that spins like in dragon knight so often
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>>23826328
It's good, it's not be as good as Ryuki since it has a few issues like the plot being more generic, most Riders not being as fleshed out and the MC being sidelined by the Ren expy, but it's still solid. It also has better action scenes than Ryuki.
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>>23826086
>The movie AU showing them together reminded me of what we got robbed of.
Don't feel like it showed anything we were robbed of because the point of that scene is to show how the alternate Stomachs act like a real family which could never happen in the main timeline.
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>>23826328
It's a pretty good show, it does follow a lot of western tropes and it's definitely worse than Ryuki but you can at least feel that the staff was passionate about the show
It was my introduction to Kamen Rider back when it aired on TV and I don't regret starting with it
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>>23826328
It's good, but it is a more typical hero show I guess you could say.
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>>23826384
You're correct about that, I meant seeing them actually do something.
>>23826328
It's fine as a novelty. It's not great, but it's not horrible, and it's definitely not Saban's Masked Rider. I would definitely be interested in seeing more "takes" on Rider shows like that.
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>>23826328
Yes, and this guy too
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>>23826328
It looks like a million bucks.
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>>23826172
I hate that now everyone online is so scared of the "woke" boogeyman. Any discussion becomes 500% more insufferable and media illiterate when culture war bullshit pops up.
It used to be a critique of agenda mary sues but now it's gotten so regressed it just means any female character, no matter how they're portrayed. Reminds me of those "no girls allowed" pillow forts except it's unironically grown adults.
Just enjoy the characters you enjoy and state your opinion freely, I'm fine with teenager heroines but older heroines would be interesting too. As long as they have interesting characters and have decent arcs. I'm sick of this Fandom wars brainrot.
>>23826196
>>23826201
>>23826203
Minami should be a rider. She's tied to the plot and the main organization and has the training. It makes sense and she has a chance, plus it works from a narrative standpoint and all that.
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>>23826204
>coming from a westoid too
Fan discussion online has become absolutely annoying, with one aisle calling for any female to become a rider whether it makes sense or not, and another aisle being "ewwww, girls in my rider!" like 12 year old boys. The intended audience of Japanese children/teens are more mature than the man/womanchildren in the western fanbase.
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Wow I just finished Jamato's Awakening and it was fucking awful, what the fuck happened? The show is so good I had high expectations for it but that was a horrible note to go out on. The action was solid but the script and plot points were so by the motions phoned in, crazy.
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>>23826633
Personally I liked it but the reason is that Takahashi is a very edgy writer so when he's forced to restrain himself for kids shows and summer movies he does a much better job because he's forced to balance and experiment, when he's making something for an adult or shounen audience such as a V-Cinema he goes for very generic edgy tropes so his writing quality drops.
Ultimately his adult stuff that are popular are non-action dramas where he can't be too edgy, Lupin the 3rd movies where he's heavily supervised and kinda with Virgin Punk where he's following upon several ideas of the director.
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>>23826633
>The action was solid but the script and plot points were so by the motions phoned in, crazy
So just like the show? I don't know what's so crazy about that.
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>>23826633
Rider movies are typically mediocre, I have no idea why people still place big expectations on the movie line that's both cheaper and even shorter. Rider movies like Paradise Lost and Trio of Deep Sin were always the exception to the rule.
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>>23826717
Newfag.
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>A Geats story is bad
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!
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>>23826528
Minami being a Rider doesn't make any sense, she can't fight for shit despite being trained as an Agent because her role is just to support Baku. The whole point of the final scene of their last 2-parter in which he gives her the perftectly toasted bread while he eats the black burnt one is to show us what the whole point of their dynamic is, Baku is willing to eat shit and suffer as long as his sister gets to be happy. When you reverse their roles, it all goes to shit, because Minami isn't cut out to be a field Agent and protector of happiness like Baku is.

And that's perftectly fine, the biggest bane to Minami's relevancy is the existence of a redundant female character in the show (Nem) who takes the role of main Heroine away from her, just like it happened with Tsumuri and Neon in Geats.
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>>23826788
>>23826785
>>23826676
???
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>geats out of nowhere
OBSESSED
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3 days left.
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>>23826815
Geats is a bad show that drops the IQ of anyone who enjoys it by half. And Takahashi's V-Cinemas are infamous for how shit they all are. Put the two together and you get unwatchable slop
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>>23826896
What makes Geats bad?
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>>23826914
Umm... It's just bad okay?!
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>>23826914
Check the episode thread archives.
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>>23826815
They're redditors
They're trolling and shitposting on purpose
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>>23826139
It literally got a US release and is easy to get.
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>>23826958
But Redditors love Geats?
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>thread was normal all day
>the usual shitposter gets unbanned
>suddenly the thread goes to shit with falseflagging
It's insane how it's seemingly just one dude with no life
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>>23826958
First it was browns, now it's redditors, why do Geatsfags love projecting so much?
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>>23827011
Geatsfags are insecure about the fact that their kino power level glaze fest is actually a bad show. More people are waking up to that fact and they're becoming a minority.
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Geats is basically Jujutsu Kaisen. The plot makes no sense and the story is buttcheeks, but the fights and suits are pretty cool.
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Whats bad about Geats?
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>>23826914
>>23826924
>>23827062
samefag
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>>23827089
Nope. wrong.
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>>23827062
Already explained>>23827052
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>>23827098
Those are conclusions not reasons.
How doesn't the plot make sense?
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Just ignore the samefag and report, notice how this thread and the prior were having normal discussions before suddenly having really unnaturally hyperbolic Geats falseflagging
It's just that his ban lifted
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Rank The Final forms
I'll start

02 > Geats9 > Xross > Exdream > Ultimate Revice > Rainbow > Overmaster
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Kino / Another Agito's actor: https://x.com/TakaHiguchi11/status/2046220450444058632?s=20
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https://twitter.com/agito_movie/status/2046136792798351769
G6.
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>>23826416
>>23826328
BURGAR
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>>23827128
Better wait until the proper debut
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what are the reiwa lead actors up to?
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>>23827124
isn't he also anti-komura or that's another person?
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Orderm only having this month and the next one as the spotlight form until Exdream debuts in the latter month (probably at the end of May if it's like how Master Gavv debuted last year).
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>>23827156
Only one I know is that Aruto is giga popular now
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>>23827156
>>23827167
Fumiya: Sakamoto Days
https://twitter.com/skmtdays_movie/status/2045819706767270388
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>>23827163
I don't think this is him but he's doing the same tactic basically, being overly defensive without properly explaining anything on both ends of the argument by samefagging to derail the thread
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>>23827149
Just from design-wise anon.
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>>23827128
>Xross that high
I love the jingle, but the fact that it's just a recolor of Brave Dragon is lame as fuck. Should've been Dragonic Knight
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>>23827165
ExDream's toy is coming out in 2 weeks, right around the airing of episode 33. Gavv Over Mode also debuted in episode 33.
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>>23827156
Aruto became really popular and does cooking on the side, Touma and Houtaro also became really successful although not massive stars like Aruto
Ace was only mildly successful but recently he's been getting more roles so he might finally be breaking out
Ikki and Sboyma are the only ones that doesn't to have gotten any form of big breaks after Kamen Rider, which sucks because I thought Shouma had a really good actor

>>23827168
Really excited for this movie, I don't even think that manga is great but the staff they got for this movie is honestly top-notch
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>>23827128
>Geats IX
>Zeztz ExDream
>Zero-Two
>Gavv Over/Master
>Revice Giffard Rex
>Xross Saber
>Gotchard Rainbow
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>>23827169
Take your meds.
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>>23827128
>>23827173
>Geats IX > ExDream > Zero-Two > Rainbow > Ultimate > Overmaster > Xross
It's a shame that Gavv and Saber which were the two Reiwa shows I liked the most have the lamest designs for final forms imo, although I'm liking Zeztz a lot so far, could see myself liking it more than Saber depending how things go from here on out
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>>23827187
Could it be too soon for Shouma since his show just ended? Maybe he'll get more roles later?
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>>23827128
xross>>>>geats>02>>>>>>>>>>>everything else
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>>23827197
I guess it could be too soon, were Aruto and Sougo are just sort of recent exceptions that managed to get several roles almost immediately after their shows ended?
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>>23827195
Zeztz is better than Gavv.
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The current main and final forms of the Reiwa era.
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>>23827208
>Izu version of Zero-Two
Kek, she really has hijacked that form from Aruto
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>>23827208
Why bother posting a second less clearer collage when anon already did >>23827128?
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>>23827168
>>23827201
Iirc fumiya literally got young moms creaming in their pants during some talkshow not long after Zero-one ended
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>>23827213
I really fucking loathe it.
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>>23827215
Not even anon's own collage when he got it from twitter.
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>>23827128
>>23827208
1. Zeztz
2. Saber
3. Geats
4. Gavv
5. Zero one
6. Rainbow
7. Revice
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>>23827201
Looking it up
>Houtaro had a main role in a show that aired 3 months after Gotchard ended
>Ikki had a few supporting roles before finally getting a main role in a show that aired 13 months after Revice ended
>Ace had a main role in a show that aired 5 months after Geats ended
>Touma had a few supporting roles before starting in a show that aired 5 months after Saber ended
>Shoma has not had any new roles since Gavv ended 9 months ago
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>>23827234
So yeah, it really does look like Shoma is on his way to being like Ikki. Hopefully he has a role lined up and it's set to air soon
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Studio Kai is probably bankrupt right now so the W anime is not in a good place
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Imagine Chinen Hidekazu getting the Attack on Titan Shu Watanabe path.
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>>23827234
>>Shoma has not had any new roles since Gavv ended 9 months ago
Should've eaten Takebe out better.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNsgewDCgI8
Agito 6.
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>>23827220
Same. It's fucking retarded and now every single Zero-Two figure comes out as an Izu version first and then they release the Aruto version much later
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>>23827243
I mean, at least with Eiji it's clear that he got fucked over by a contract. Shoma hasn't really gotten anything yet
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>>23827243
Why would you want that
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta_cEfG69Vs
Agito 7.
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>>23827241
They've been filing insolvency for 6 years in a row, this is nothing new, Yuusha-Kei and Fuuto PI at least were pretty big successes in Japan although conversely their two seasons of Jigoku Sensei Nube did pretty poorly, the rest of their projects is sort of in the middle
The biggest concern is ADK, the marketing company of Kamen Rider who's the parent company of Studio Kai, they were bought last year by the PUBG guys
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>>23827240
>>23827234
as long as none ended up like eiji ooo it should be fine
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>>23827266
I hope Baku breaks out after Zeztz. Dude has been killing it recently, I'm really impressed.
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>>23827269
You jinxed it.
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>>23827278
No... He's going to sign on for a 6 year contract with the live action Chainsaw Man movie but die after the first movie...
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>>23827260
nube remake already got 2 seasons?
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>>23827291
Yeah it got a part 2 in March this year
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>>23827241
is it possible if Futo PI change studio?
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>>23827269
Yeah, he's even better than chinen last year ngl
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>>23827296
I mean Ishinomori Pro and Toei own the IP but Fuuto PI and its movie were a passion project by the studio, and unlike the other anime by Studio KAI which are made by freelancers that the studio's producers have faith in, Fuuto PI is made by the only staff that's actually residing in the studio
So theoretically Fuuto PI can be made by another Studio but they'll probably avoid that as much as possible
But again this is the 6th year in a row KAI signs for insolvency, if that didn't manage to stop them back then hopefully it doesn't stop them now
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>>23827303
Yeah Zeztz's cast are all surprisingly competent in general, I thought Gavv had better actors than usual Rider but Zeztz somehow managed to go even above that, makes me hope that Sota returns for more shows because clearly he's excellent at casting, I'm just not sure if I would trust him for handling a show solo
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>>23827314
>Sota
Is he new? I'm looking him up on the wiki but this seems to be his first show working as a producer
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>>23827296
>>23827309
It's up to W's producer whether Fuuto PI changes studios or not, he's the editor of the manga and the one who pitched the anime adaptation, picked the studio and even picked the writers that would adapt it
Fuuto PI is a passion project by Kai because they've always wanted to work on something related to Kamen Rider but Tsukada is the one who has the final say in this, I guess that in the case Kai shuts down for whatever reason Tsukada could help get the same staff to other studio, kinda like how the Captain Tsubasa anime started with David Production but then Kai's producers managed to hire the staff to continue the anime with them after David didn't have enough budget to do it

>>23827321
He's new to toku but he has actually headed multiple drama, all of them successful, however his drama are live-action adaptations of manga meaning he has yet to do something original
He was hired by Yanaka to handle all of the casting with Zeztz (although apparently Sieg wasn't hired by him but rather Yanaka asked episode director Shibasaki to get him as a favor), the reason why I say I'm not sure if he would be good handling a show on his own because he's co-producing the Minami mini-series with another new producer known as Reina, that mini-series suck but I don't know how much is fault of those two or the writer who's also pretty new, only having worked on Ride Kamens before
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>>23827339
>Shibasaki
You mean Sugihara.
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>>23827321
>>23827339
Here are his credits if you're curious: https://www.allcinema.net/person/985466

>>23827341
Yeah I got them mixed up, where does Sugihara know Amano anyway? I was caught off guard when Yanaka said it was Sugihara who managed to get him in the episode blog
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>>23827347
Sugihara was assistant director in Blade and chief assistant director in Fourze.
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>>23827241
My boy baron >>23827146 will fund the next season and save the studio!
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>>23825717
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>>23826110
Jin Haganeya but since I don't see Takebe getting him then either Kaneko or Uchida
Mouri is definitely the one I would want to stay the fuck away from My-Th or from a head writer position in general
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>>23827361
Thank you very much for explaining, I didn't know that
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>>23826110
Hanta Kinoshita
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>>23827002
>>23827011
Actually retarded
You gotta fuck off
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>>23827389
There's a 97% chance that Takebe won't hire him
>>23826110 are the most realistic choices
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So was that Rider on the movie set pic Exdream after all or something different?
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>>23827399
Exdream and another suit sitting.
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>>23827399
Ex-Dream judging by the helmet, the belt probably looks white due to the lightning
That said I wouldn't be surprised if the movie form uses Ex-Dream's undersuit since they seemingly share a color scheme >>23825952
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>Toei Enters Gaming Business in Earnest
>"Toei Games" Established to Create New IPs
>Lineup Announcement on April 24
https://x.com/oricon/status/2046439716820840930
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>>23827339
Dude is clearly great at casting though, so it's good to have him on call for that at the very least. And I'd say that as boring as the Minami mini series is, the two characters they hired for Minami's boss and the Cardboard/Bomb Comedian are both pretty decent actors so no complaints there
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>>23827128
Purple Gavv > Zeztz > Zero-Two > Gavv that shat himself
Everything else is in the garbage, except for Revice which is in hell. Ugliest fucking thing Toei's ever done.
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>>23827420
˗ˏˋToei Games Beginsˊˎ˗
>Starting today, Toei Games, the game business operated by Toei Company, will commence operations

>On this official X account, we aim to deliver various information about Toei Games to you as quickly as possible, and sometimes in a relaxed manner!

>Please follow us and stay tuned for further updates
https://x.com/toei_games
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https://twitter.com/toei_games/status/2046438930229407941
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>>23827422
>Purple Gavv
>Gavv that shat himself
But these two are one and the same.
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>>23827420
>>23827426
>>23827427
So any Toei properties that usually had games made through Bamco are now going to have games made in-house? Interesting, guess we'll see where it goes.
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>>23827378
>Head writer for Kyuranger
>Ninninger
>Go-Buster
>Ghost
>Zi-O
>Saber
Oof, most of the shows he's worked on fucking suck. But at least he has done writing credits for OOO, Gaim and Gavv?
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>>23826110
Out of those, Haganeya Jin by far, but that's not happening. Same as Urobuchi, he's made it abundantly clear he's never coming back to tokusatsu's production schedule.
Mouri would be awesome... if OOOs 10th didn't exist. But who knows? Maybe he has something in the tank. Who I'd actually like to see is Minato Takano not glued to Takahashi, his work on King-Ohger was phenomenal.
Least preferred is by far Hiroki Uchida and Shimoyama. Both can't really write for shit.
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>>23827442
His works as an episode writer are mostly great honestly, problem is when he's the head where he wrote Kyuranger, OOO 10th and some gay novels
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>>23827422
Trolling
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>>23827442
>But at least he has done writing credits for OOO, Gaim and Gavv?
And Saber and Go-Busters.
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>>23827426
>>23827420
First game will be a Kamen Rider VN on Steam, trust me.
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>>23827437
Not necessarily since Bandai still makes the toys
This probably going to be like Shueisha games, they hardly ever make games based on any of the Shueisha manga properties and instead mostly make original indie-tier stuff
The if they become successful enough to hire more employees they make proper games based on their properties
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>>23827444
>Both can't really write for shit.
They can.
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>myth is a rat
>back then the year was 2020
>myth is 2027 season
????
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>>23827454
Ride Kamens was a thing.
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>>23827444
Did Hagenaya say he's not returning to Toku after Gaim?
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>>23827420
it's going to be gacha isn't it
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>>23827444
Anon the instant Mouri was given any semblance of freedom with Kyuranger he botched it, and most of his works are run of the mill gay idol stuff, he's the work out of that list by far
As shit as Shimoyama is he at least made Shinkalion and Gorider
I don't know about Uchida though, how are his films and novels based on anime?
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>>23827467
Didn't they already confirm that the new Kamen Rider game is a gacha?
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>>23827163
>>23827009
The twitterfag is already making his inane posts with dumb images and typing styles. >>23827454 >>23827459
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>>23827462
No but no one from nitro+ has returned to toku since Gaim, that's probably mostly due to contract but Jin went freelance recently and did the most recent Monster Strike anime, the question is if Takebe would hire him after not working with him for that long
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>>23827128
Zezt>saber>zero two>geats nine>gavv over>revice>rainbow
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>>23827459
I also thought it would be chinese zodiac but the owl rider if true throws that theory off
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>>23826110
I know people don't trust him after the Hero Taisens and Decade but I'm willing to give Yonemura a chance, I find his writing to be really fun despite going too off the rails
I would love to see a loser character done in a vein similar to Punch Hopper again https://youtu.be/jp2aH7shg6c
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>>23826219
Her actress was pretty bad this week.
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>>23827468
Why would you ever want Shimoyama back after Ninninger and Zi-O
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>>23825947
You got that last year.
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>>23827444
Gotchard is pretty middle of the road so I wouldn't be opposed to having him back
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>>23827486
Because I liked most of his ideas in Zi-O and thought Gorider was awesome
But I don't want him back since I feel the only producer he would realistically work well is Omori who left and maybe Matsuura, I definitely don't want him to come back to write a Takebe show
I'm just saying that he's better than Mouri, almost everything good in Kyuranger was Mochizuki's idea rather than his so I wouldn't trust him being given the amount of freedom Takebe usually gives

I still don't get why Kobayashi recommended Shimoyama and Mouri to Toei, where did she even meet them? You know things are bad if Shimoyama's mentor Yoshio Urasawa, who worked with Toei several times, never bothered to recommend him
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>>23827494
Gotchard mainly had fault through Houtarou and Rinne's actors being pretty bad. If they had actual good actors it would've been higher up in my mind.
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>>23827128
In order, most to least favorite
>Geats IX
It's basic but it fulfills what a final form should aim to do with no negative spots. It's easily the coolest form that Geats gets which means it doesn't fall prey to the "earlier form was way better" that some final forms get.
>Over-Master
I'm not crazy about the design, positively or negatively. It looks infinitely better in motion than in stills. In terms of its functionality though, it is consistently in really great fights and it pulls off the "all the powers" form really well. The on-screen presence via the fight scenes does a ton to carry a design that I'd put on the lower end of the list.
>Zero-Two
Initially I was a bit letdown because of how it's just a Rider 2 shoutout and at the time I found it too simple for Zero-One as a show. But it's easiest to warm up on, it's still "roughly as good" as the other suits. Willing to give it lenience on not being able to get screen time.
>Ultimate Revice
Design-wise it's solid if a bit busy. The magnetism power integrates well with Revice's gimmick.
>ExDream
At the moment I really don't feel anything about the design. "It sure is a Zeztz suit." Need to see it in action.
>Rainbow Gotchard
Honestly only this low because I adored Platinum. Also Nijigon was more annoying than fun while Hopper-1 was consistently a highlight of Gotchard for me. Also I think it's not a great suit design (come on, it's not even rainbow), although the power certainly works well for it.
>Xross Saber
Repaint. Its only distinguishing factor is "bigger number."
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ill do anything to get urobuchi, kobayashi or inoue to get back writing mainline kamen rider
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>>23827494
Being middle of the road is a bad thing one would rather want something good.
That said it's really hard to gauge whether Uchida is a good writer or not. He wrote Tategami Lion's debut, Dezast's Outsiders episode and Vram&Valen getting stuck together which were awesome. He also wrote the Hiromi recap and Legends which were pretty fun. But then he wrote Girls Remix and the Revice episode in Saber which were pretty bad. One almost wants to give him the benefit of the doubt since Minato limited him a lot and all of his scrapped ideas for Gotchard sound fun, but at the same time after Gotchard's production sort of stabilized he was put in charge of Houtaro and Clotho which were some of the weakest/underdeveloped aspects of the show.
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>>23827504
>Inoue
>After the Decade VS Zi-O specials
>After Paradise Regained
You sure?
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>>23827504
>urobochi
Too occupied
>kobayashi
Soft retired
>inoue
Not impossible actually, I would also love him writing a show even if the toy shilling will feel more tacked on than usual since Donbrothers proofed he can still be fun, I'm just not sure if Takebe would be a good match for him since you know, Kiva exists
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>>23827508
He wrote Donbrothers and that was a hoot, so yes.
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>>23827498
While those were bad most of the problems with Gotchard was its head producer, the guy just really wanted to be as safe possible but couldn't get everyone on the same picture
It's essentially what happened with every Sentai from Zyuohger to Ryusoulger
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>>23827508
yes.. inoue most badly written infinitely better than reiwa "better" written show
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>>23827504
>>23827511
I'm fairly positive The Butcher has gone on record as stating that he didn't exactly enjoy the process of making a long serialized television show. Not in the sense that anybody mistreated him, I believe he did say he mostly got to tell the story he wanted, but obviously mandatory shilling episodes and just how much fucking work it is on a day by day basis turned him off iirc.
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>>23827517
I remember hearing someone say that the producer has been improving a lot and is a big help in Zeztz's production, and could be promoted again soon. Is that true or am I misremembering?
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>>23827519
The 2008 half of Kiva was pretty bad, though. And not even the entertaining kind of bad. And let's not forget the second half of Hibiki
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>>23827522
Not necessarily that he's been improving since he isn't in charge of any aspect of the story with Zeztz, but the parts which he's handling which is supervising the fashion designers, action and music he's been doing really well so far and has been praised several time by the staff. Following patterns with what happened when producer Mochizuki was publicly praised a lot it's very likely that Minato will be promoted again soon.
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>>23827525
Might take another few years for him to get promoted again after how hectic Gotchard's production was. He'll need some more experience. Reiwa 9 might be too soon and Reiwa 10 is too important to give to him, so maybe Reiwa 11
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>>23827508
nta I definitely would want him to write more toku shows but I definitely don't want him to write My-Th since he would suck under Takebe under Takebe
Overall Inoue has a mostly good track record for toku shows, Jetman, Agito, Tekkouki Mikazuki, 555, Cutie Honey and Donbrothers are all awesome
Kiva is like Zero-One where it's above average but definitely not great
Changerion is... weird
Then Hibiki's second half and Gouraigan were bad

>>23827524
To be kinda fair to Inoue he originally wanted to be as close as possible to the original script of Hibiki as he could just like the cast originally wanted but Shirakura said "it felt too forced" and told him to do whatever, boy what a mistake that was
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>>23827501
>Its only distinguishing factor is "bigger number."
Imagine thinking that "punch harder" is a more inspired power than this.
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Which part of Omori's Legacy will be present in Mice
>Cross of Fire = Father and Son relationship
>Half-Monster Rapebabies
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>>23827552
The latter since it lends itself better to fujo stuff, it's a Takebe show after all
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>>23827508
>>23827512
Inoue is only good at writing comedies now.
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>>23827552
>>Cross of Fire = Father and Son relationship
That was already a thing before Ohmori.
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>>23825729
Another shit season
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>>23827511
Inoue is basically retired, he only comes back for Shirakura projects as a favor.
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>>23827534
>Reiwa 9 might be too soon and Reiwa 10 is too important to give to him
They gave Rider's 50th to fucking Mochizuki. Minato was also involved in Outsiders, Girls Remix and the Legend stuff.
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>>23827562
Isn't he still working on a lot stuff? He's currently doing 3 manga
Or do you mean that he's retired from toku and only works with Shirakura, because yeah I could see that
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>>23827557
I would love if he decided to do another farce hero show like Changerion honestly.
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>>23827574
>They gave Rider's 50th to fucking Mochizuki
Anon keep in mind that there were barely any producers at Toei at the time
By 2018 every producer had getting demoted and transferred basically only leaving Omori as the sole producer, it's why despite being executives Shirakura and Tsukada had to make Zi-O, Kiramager, Zenkaiger and Donbrothers and why Murayama got transferred to make Ryusoulger
At the time of Revice Tsukada and Shirakura were putting their focus on Sentai to prevent it from dying, Omori was trying to avoid Rider as much as possible and both Murayama and Takahashi who was given a second chance got promoted into executives, that only left giving a second chance to either Takebe or Mochizuki and they chose the latter probably because of how highly praised his work as a vice producer was
TLDR; Toei was at the time and still kinda is really unstable with its producers
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>>23827576
He used to work on a lot of TV shows from the 80s to the 2000s, his work flow become more irregular in the 2010s, and he hasn't done much stuff in the 2020s (the only TV credit he has besides Donbrothers is as a guest writer on Sentai Red Isekai, which had a bunch of other Toku alumni working on it).
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>>23827588
Damn getting old sucks
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>>23827579
They could have poached Ohmori if anniversary shows were really that important to them.
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>>23827592
Man I hope that they bring Omori back as a freelance producer for Project R.E.D and that now that they're transferring a bunch of people they give Utsunomiya a second chance since he's on another division
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>Ace's #1 Fan
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>>23827594
Not gonna happen as long as Shirakura breathes.
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>>23827597
He loves Omori though, him and Tsukada even took him to travel other countries twice and continue to praise him even after he left
It's more of a "would the board of directives even allow a freelance producer to handle a show" type issue, as far as I'm aware they've only done so twice, Shin Kamen Rider where due to a contract with Hideaki Anno a producer from his studio must be involved in all of his projects and even then the movie had a Toei producer and the Kuuga exhibition but that was because it was the only way they could get Joe Odagiri back

I don't think Toei would ever allow a freelance producer to touch a mainline show even if it was someone who had worked with them before
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>>23827595
Is that Ziin? I will forever envy him for getting to cop a feel of Hurricane Blue's boobs as a kid
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>>23827608
Yeah, he plays a nerd who gets blackmailed by a tiny sociopath.
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>>23827611
Man I prefer the original actors more since they look closer to the manga, but I get that it wouldn't have worked since they aren't actually actors

>>23827577
I'm surprised that they didn't do a project for the anniversary since the staff and main duo both seemed willing
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>>23827595
>>23827611
Aku no Hana getting a live action version does make a lot of sense. And the MC being played by Ziin's actor works because he can play sniveling nerd really well.
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>>23827248
It didn't help that Aruto didn't use it much because he gets Ark-One immediately, and Aruto's last Zero-Two usage was jobbing to Eden. I like the idea of Izu having her own Rider form and to homage Double Riders, but at the cost of ruining Aruto's final form.
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>>23827617
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>>23827621
I imagine Zero-Two would stick more as Aruto's final form if they managed to do the original planned story arc of Ark hopping between hosts and blending into society
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>>23827690
I want KR OPs to get overly artsy again
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>>23827690
I kind of miss how toku back then looked like a soap opera due to the camera.
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>>23827694
Yeah I definitely miss the old soap opera-like cameras too, really gave Phase 1 Heisei a unique feel.
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>>23827693
Zeztz is airing right now.
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>>23827718
Yeah the new Zeztz OP visuals get there at points (and the old one had some good shots) but it still fills like toe dipping.
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>>23827718
VISIONS is definitely way more artsy compared to PLAY BACK that's more standard action
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https://x.com/agito_movie/status/2046499178948485255
G7
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>>23827799
https://x.com/kashu_toshiki/status/2046517092342788401
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>>23827799
>>23827822
oh that's why the undersuit looked cheap
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I still hate it, but I like that he still doesn't say henshin.
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>>23827829
I think it's pretty cool IMO. I like how it's still fairly "manual" in how the funnels go on each part of his body to piece the suit together, and how the undersuit is something he just wears on the job under his clothes.
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>Zero
DILF
>Five
DILF
>Fujimi
DILF

Us dilf lovers are eating good this year
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>>23825952
>>23827406
Yeah, it's probably the movie form. It's has to use some parts from Exdream because otherwise I have absolutely no idea on what else they could reuse for this form. Zeztz designs are so unique they could only use previous 01 (titular rider) forms, otherwise what else they could use from this show? One of the Dualmares? Booster again? By the looks of the helmet it does resemble of the pseudos, but their suits are out of the question most likely, Iddon't see PLEX repainting those glorified undersuits since it's something they barely do
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>>23827854
That's probably what's gonna happen to Orderm's chestpiece. It looks generic enough to be repainted
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>>23827799
>>23827829
Ready to draw the GZ-10 Orochi, which is by far the new second best weapon of the G-Series Gear, right at the end. That is just cool.
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>>23827831
The undersuit could have some markers to have a visual indicator for the drones to align with, but yeah, this suit up sequence is great
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>>23826322
If she hires based on recent experience then I can only imagine the King-Ohger writer, as that was the last big sorta fantasy toku show that was developed recently. Alternatively I would say the Saber/Gotchard writing staff, but I don’t think she’s ever worked for them.
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>>23827920
Having King-Ohger's writer try his hand at a KR season would be really cool desu
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>>23827829
>he doesn't say henshin
>the parts still have to manually attach to the undersuit
Oh thank god. I still don't like the design but at least they didn't fuck that part up. Also why has everyone from this cast aged so poorly?
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>>23827930
>Also why has everyone from this cast aged so poorly?
It's been 25 years. Maybe they're frequent smokers or drinkers. That'll speed up aging.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf6GYDN5k4s
Deluxe Exdream.
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>>23827937
Looking back it's so amusing to think that when we got leaks of Zeztz toys from color/lemon ages ago that they actually saw ExDream Rise months and months early.
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>>23827829
I like the monster scratches his head in confusion
>>23827930
Japanese people age I a weird way that is varied with each person. I curious to see how Nox's actor will look in 20 years
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>>23827937
I still wanna know what the belt is saying when you use a normal capsem with the upgrade cover. All I can hear from it is ANDY, or maybe envy, I dont know.
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>>23827943
The giant version of the Capsem literally showed up in Gavv's finale, color, shape and all that. Really makes you think how far has PLEX been designing the next series while the current one is running.
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>>23827937
Rise looks nice, and I like the standby lot, but functionality-wise it’s the same as any standard capsem. Doesn’t even have an animation gimmick.
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>>23827943
Didn't we get leaks of I want to say Build Genius in like Q1?
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>>23827981
Yeah we saw Build Genius super early
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>>23827970
We discussed this a while back but they usually start designing the final form toy around the time the first episode airs. There's a design document of the Live Vistamp dated for September 2021, which was when the first few episodes of Revice were airing
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>>23827213
>>23827220
Honestly, it would have been better if she just got a new form instead. The 02 suit clearly wasn't designed to be worn by a woman. It looks fucking awkward.

Instead of Horobi, 03 should have been Is.
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>>23827937
>the video got private
lol I guess they posted it too early, probably was meant for next week.
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>>23827128
02, Geats 9 and Den0 liner form are the only finals in the franchise that actually look better than their base versions.

>>23827700
maybe this is rose tinted goggles but it felt less cynical imo. i feel like every new season is lit like a toothpaste commercial to get the best porn shots of the costumes, instead of wanting to use angles and lighting to construct a mood.
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>>23827128
Zeztz
02
Geats-9
Xross
Rainbow
Gavv overmaster
Ultimate Revice
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>>23828102
You're probably the only person who likes Liner Form. Most people prefer Climax
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>>23828127
I second Liner Form, it's streamlined and sleek. Ryotaro just kinda sucks without a taro and doesn't use it well most of the time.
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>>23827420
Give us a new Battride War already.
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>g4x will never be canon
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>>23827937
Guess they're posting a bit too early
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>>23827471
>>23827467
That new Kamen Rider mobile game announced at the presscon is being made by Bandai Namco
That said expect the first game of Toei to be closer to an indie in terms of quality
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>>23827128
They're all garbage
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>>23827128
>Geats IX
>Zero-Two
>Exdream
>Ultimate Revi/Vice
>Over/Master
>Xross Saber
>Rainbow Gotchard
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>>23828128
My dream for a Den-O reunion movie is Ryutaro becoming capable and able to unleash Liner Forn's true strength.
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>>23828127
Really? IMO climax is an absolute clusterfuck with all those floppy asymmetrical faceplates all over it. Liner gets the same idea across less gaudily with the stripes of color, and gives him what I think is the coolest helmet in the season.
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>>23828238
Isn't that their main issue with bringing Ryotaro back? They're not sure how to develop his character. Too mature and he's not even the same character anymore, not mature enough and it seems like he's regressed. That's why he was possessed by Urataros in Heisei Generations Forever
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>>23828216
Even though the intent was obvious, the Zeztzdriver never really came across as an eye until now. The Nox Driver and Lord Invoker both downplayed the motif as well.
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>>23828251
Sato also has no idea how to play the character in such a way that it feels correct anymore and have the audience satisfied, ergo if he ever appears it'll be as possessed which he's more comfortable with.
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>>23828259
Wasn't it his agency that asked his character to be possessed?
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>>23827427
>>23827420
Keep in mind that this animation was made by Kairosoft so they could be making the first game with Toei publishing and that they said that they plan to expand to console gaming but for now are just sticking to Steam implying that the game will be around the budget of a niche game
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>>23827468
Yeah you're right about Mouri. I block Kyuranger from my mind because I absolutely despised that. Shimoyama's writing is bad when on his own, I liked Zi-O's characters a lot but whenever he was writing something related to the plot it was horrible. Same issue as Ninninger but that was even worse.
As for Uchida I just don't like their writing style or themes at all, even if we don't consider Gotchard due to the producer issues. Everything else they worked on has just been boring to bad and that's the last thing anyone needs.
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Did the rewrites to Hibiki actually improve toy sales?
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>>23828348
We don't know since at the time they just did year reports rather than quarter reports
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Took me a bit to realize this was Ankh's actor.
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>>23828032
Guess the shift in filming schedules reflect that. Still, this is by far the earliest hint of the final form I've ever seen, far earlier than Build Genius.
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>>23828446
It's even crazier when you realize that Ankh is closer to how he normally presents himself.
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>>23828282
No, it was Satoh's idea.
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>>23828032
Holy Live came a whole quarter before Revice's final form. That being said, the new production schedule probably shifted the deadlines for the toys as well.
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>>23827970
>The giant version of the Capsem literally showed up in Gavv's finale, color, shape and all that
Although they look pretty similar, the UFO model isn't exactly the same as the Exdream Capsem.
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>>23828036
>The 02 suit clearly wasn't designed to be worn by a woman. It looks fucking awkward.
Funny you say that because Izu-Two's suit actor is a guy.
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>>23828036
Zero-Three wasn't Horobi, it was a merger between Izu and Ark.
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>>23828331
>Everything else they worked on has just been boring to bad
Not really.
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Think the Den-O movie next year will be like Agito's where it's basically a high budget V-Cinema of the secondary or will it have a higher focus on Den-O since it's being developed as a Kamen Rider Chronicle movie from the get-go unlike Agito's?
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>>23828256
Honestly, I'm sure this was probably brought up already, but the Dualmare Capsem reminded me of an alarm clock, the button looked like a snooze button.
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Is Outsiders good?
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>>23828623
Nah it and Girls Remix are shlocky crossover stuff, they aren't bad but they're as an enjoyable as lowbrow anime filler arcs
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Nightmares being aliens is a very real possibility with codes original purpose being dealing with things like cryptids.
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>>23828623
Yes, outsiders is pretty fun.
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>>23828652
Tell me more about your prophetic dreams.
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>>23828256
>>23828620
The Nox Driver's standby sounds like an alarm clock. Nox's Henshin sequence also projects shadows that resemble and rotate like clock hands.
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>>23828623
Too much Takahashiwank, the best episodes are the few that don't focus on his shows' characters.
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>Takahashi
I'm new to KR and I'm just discovering this week he's apparently a pretty polarizing guy? I've been seeing him mentioned on twitter a lot too.

I thought ex-aid, zero one and geats were pretty good, why are people so opinionated on him?
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>>23827128
Rainbow=02>>Exdream=Xross=Giffard>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the rest.
Need to see debut to rank it properly.
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https://youtu.be/1XRaCG2mKU0?si=MBQ7fmrUUrk62sKl
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>>23828723
>I thought ex-aid, zero one and geats were pretty good, why are people so opinionated on him?
Watch more shows not written by him to find out.
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>>23828723
He's kinda inconsistent. While it can be forgiven for Zero One because of the covid issues, Geats and Ex-Aid have some weird pacing issues.
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>>23828740
I have, I've seen W, OOO, Fourze, Gaim, Drive, Kuuga and Amazons as well
>>23828761
Isn't pacing just sort of a common/inherent problem with the franchise due to being forced to meet a certain episode quota. I thought Geat's pacing was very good, Ex-aid I don't remember at this point honestly, been awhile
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are the pacing problems more obvious from the weekly nature of the show? I swear for a lot of these I just watch for myself I don't notice them because I watch 1-2 episodes a day (the exceptions being the final arcs since I want to be done with the show at that point).
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>>23828782
Yeah I should mention too I watch series after they finish, and I actually watch 2 a day as well
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>>23828783
I think the only shows I watched live were Gaim, Drive, Ex-Aid, Build and Zi-O (this one I dropped it right before the OOO/Genm arc). Sometimes I want to rewatch Ex-Aid and Build because (especially the former) they had some glaring pacing issues when watched weekly.
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>>23828782
I think so yeah, the first show I watched weekly was Wizard and the way they decided to handle the motw made it intolerable for me, I would let episodes accumulate and watch them in bulk occasionally
The only other times I had to do that were Ghost and Gotchard
Ultimately even if the show is bad as long as it feels like there's some form of progression I find it easier to digest weekly, like I hate Revice more than those 3 shows but I didn't have to take breaks
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>>23828778
It's literally just the fact he is TOO popular. It's the classic "hate popular thing" mentality. Just don't worry about it and like what you like.
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>>23828761
>While it can be forgiven for Zero One because of the covid issues
It can't, the worst part of Zero-One happened before COVID.
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>>23828778
>Geat's pacing was very good
Its pacing was terrible, you've watched shows with far better pacing than it yet you can't tell.
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>>23828886
Go into detail so I can understand why you have that view
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I despise the OP and find the weird tummy driver thing going on gross. Why should I continue to watch Gavv? Spoilers are welcome.
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>>23828902
It's a weekly kids action show, anon. You don't have to force yourself to watch it if you don't like it. There's 30 other shows to watch. 40 if you include Showa
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>>23828609
Ideally, I kinda think you'd want to actually bring Satou's Ryoutarou back, since he hasn't actually had a major role in a Den-O thing since like Final Countdown. Problem is, that depends entirely on whether he can even return for such a role, and I also don't really want anyone but Kobayashi writing such a thing.

Without those things, then yeah, I guess a Zeronos movie would be the next best thing. But that partially depends on whether Airi comes back since I'm not really altogether sure about a Yuuto-focused film without her. That whole thing is really sort of the central loose end for Yuuto's character, and if you can't wrap that up neatly, I'm not really sure if there's a point to it.

The last thing that really bothers me about Den-O is whatever they'd end up doing regarding Hana.
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>>23828723
He's great at keeping you at the edge of your seat, has really great ideas, is easy to work with since he's one of the few writers that's actually consistent on schedule and is legitimate fan of Kamen Rider who really loves writing for it
However the guy is inconsistent when it comes to episodic storylines, can sometimes lean to hard on doing really generic edgy stuff, tends to shaft main cast Riders over the wayside to focus more on rivals, has a lot of recurring tropes that can make his shows overlap sometimes and doesn't know how to handle villains

He's basically the same as another writer for Kamen Rider known as Junko Komura, both are good writers overall but can only write truly great stories when matched with the right producer
His hate is overblown, he's mostly hated because he's been hired way too often lately, so the whole tropes deal I mentioned is making his shows feel repetitive, he's also hated because his shows are popular

Overall Ex-Aid is considered to be one of the best seasons, Zero-One is good but not great as the show got screwed over due to the producer doing a bunch of rash decisions due to being in a lot of pressure, Geats is great but still very flawed mostly because its producer did several last minute changes that went against what Takahashi had been building up to since the start of the show and Zeztz is so far is really great but it's drag down because it has all of the negatives point of Takahashi I mentioned minus the generic edgy part
Outside of toku his non-action dramas are all beloved, he's known for reviving the Lupin the 3rd franchise and writing some its best movies and his short movie Virgin Punk was pretty great
But pretty all of his anime, manga and non-toku action and shonen mystery dramas are hated so he's just generally considered inconsistent
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>>23828953
Thank you for the insightful post, anon
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>>23828953
>Geats is great but still very flawed mostly because its producer did several last minute changes that went against what Takahashi had been building up to since the start of the show
I wonder if this has anything to do with how incredibly phoned in and lazy the script for Jamato Awakening was, like felt turned off by it
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>>23828902
The main hero cast, music, monsters of the week and drama are considered to be great and the action is considered to be some of the franchise's best
The main villains of the show are some of the franchise's worst but everything else around it makes to show be pretty beloved overall
I'd say watch the first two episodes then decide but like the other said you really don't need to force yourself to watch something if you don't like the esthetics/themes
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>>23828976
Takahashi was originally planning on Keiwa being the final boss, in case you're curious. But Takebe kept pushing the Tycoon Bujin Sword reveal later and later because she considered Sara to be a healing character, and killing her off would make the show too dark. So she pushed it back for as long as she could
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>>23828989
A healing character for what
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>>23828288
Does Ryo's make you smell like a mutated walking corpse?
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>>23828989
That makes sense, Sara coming back did seem very forced/didnt make too much sense
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>>23828900
Things happening constantly doesn't make the pacing good. Geats had to force arc changes through constant status quo resets instead of organic plot development, which often led to shit that was getting built up throughout an arc being stopped dead in its tracks and having an unsatisfying conclusion because it was time to move on to the next story arc, like Girori just getting fired right in the middle of his final fight.

All the the DezaStar arc shit that didn't involve the build up to Michinaga's villain arc (which came after he had seemingly started warming up on Ace during his "death" in the previous arc) might as well not have happened because, on top of being a slog that regressed Keiwa's character back to being a clown who had nobody's respect, Beroba's gang hijacking the DGP prevented that iteration of the game from concluding properly, conveniently sparing Neon from suffering the consequences of her own actions.
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>>23829015 cont.
When the JGP started, Beroba and co. were just fucking around, but they eventually started doing impactful things and Buffa's path towards becoming the Jyamashin was being nicely developed. However, all of that was thrown into the trash in the very next arc, with the Desire Royale being another forced status quo reset that quickly resurrected all the major characters that died in the previous arcs, made Beroba lose her stranglehold on the DGP for no reason at all, featured a bunch of pointless dicking around that made it feel like a filler arc, and had Michinaga's run as Jyamashin end up in nothing because it was time to do yet another reset and start a new arc.

And the final arc had the worst pacing of them all, it felt like a bunch of story arcs crammed into just 10 episodes, first they introduced dragqueen Daichi and his new Jyamato breed as the big new threats only to throw them out in the span of 4 episodes for Dark Keiwa, Keiwa only stayed edgy for 4-5 episodes before being whipped back into his old self, then they had to kill Beroba and Kekera off because this show had way too many leftover villains, then Zitt only lasts 1 episode in the spotlight before he gets offed, and finally they have Suel (the main villain of the whole thing who they only introduced after the show was over halfway over) come back for the last 2 episodes after being missing from this entire arc up to that point, and in between all of that they were also seedrunning Michinaga and Daichi's forced redemptions.
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>>23828902
Gavv peaks in Q1, the later parts have a few nice moments, but it's pretty much all downhill from there.
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>>23828932
>I also don't really want anyone but Kobayashi writing such a thing
Inoue can do it.
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>>23828980
>That webm
Some day, I'm sure some day we'll have a gun wielding Rider that doesn't just constantly run into melee range and flail around wondering why his gun didn't help him.
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>>23828953
>Zeztz is so far is really great but it's drag down because it has all of the negatives point of Takahashi I mentioned minus the generic edgy part
Nox and Sieg's characters are nothing but generic edginess.
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>>23828976
>how incredibly phoned in and lazy the script for Jamato Awakening was
That was Geats in general, anon.
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>>23829037
Someone already made this shitpost earlier
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>>23829048
It's not a shitpost, I'm just explaining things to the clueless anon again since he keeps wondering why.
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>>23829034
Watch Ryuki.
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>>23828778
> Ex-aid
It’s pacing issues is more of a Omori problem than Takahashi.
His shows tend to lose steam and start meandering at a certain point then picks up before the end game
>>23828822
> fact he is TOO popular. It's the classic "hate popular thing" mentality.
I know this is bait but I’ll bite because I’m bored.

You’re a fucking idiot. Lurk moar if you genuinely think it’s just that.
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>>23829035
I lumped into the
>doesn't know how to handle villains
part, when I say generic edginess I mean like how he did with Kindaichi NEO, Monstaboo, Jyamato Awakening and Amazons Last Judgement where it's being edgy for the sake of edginess rather than edginess out him being a chuuni like Nox and Sieg
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>>23829034
/krg/'s second favorite school shooter mostly did that though
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>>23829034
DiEnd
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>>23829080
Why is Ichigo looking at Valen like that?
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>>23828980
Imagine considering fucking Shoma, ultimate jobber Hanto and blandest tertiary Lakia as a great main hero cast.
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>>23829034
>he doesn't CQC with a gun
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>>23829075
I'm still mad that they brought him back for no reason at the end, leaving PunkJack without a suit for the entire final arc.
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2 days.
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>Houtaro just gets shot in the eye in an alternate timeline
for a show about collecting cute mascot cards, there is a lot of suffering.
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>>23829095
Wait until you get to the part where he mourns at the graves of all his loved ones.
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>>23829084
>>23829095
Samefag
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>>23829114
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>>23829116
Have you considered the fact that multiple people can hate multiple different seasons? You'll probably find a Build hater if you post here long enough
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>>23829114
Why are Gavvfags obsessed with Gotchardfags?
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>>23829121
Did you respond to the wrong person?
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>>23829141
He knows who I'm talking to. I don't need to correct myself
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>>23827937
>>23828216
It's honestly kind of lame, Dualmare had much better sounds and a more inspired design.
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>>23829160
It's following the Zero-One style of final form toy where the main bulk of the toy is the new driver plate while the gimmick item is fairly simple
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>>23829201
Zero-Two at least had a cool jingle.
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>>23825775
>with this bussin' powerup, I can gun down the nepobaby rider again!
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>>23825775
>GYATT capsem
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>>23827133
Why the fuck is he even back. Was it really they wanted Gills but Toei insisted no because of his scandal (with a cameo being all they'd allow) so they were just "Fuck it then Kino is back from the dead somehow so he can be the final boss"?
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>>23827201
Usually if a lead Rider becomes an Aruto/Shinnosuke level big star it happens pretty fast.
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You know even though I like Gaim, rewatching it I noticed literally every one of Kouta's upgrades is just Sagara appearing and giving it to him. Jimber, Kachidoki and Kiwami all followed that same pattern. Really seemed like he blatantly stacked the deck in Kouta's favor
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>>23829420
>Why the fuck is he even back
Because that's what Inoue wanted.
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23464396/#23464920
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>>23829426
Sagara knew that Kouta was a god in the making, so a fellow god in him just pushed him along the path.
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>>23829429
Anyone who got the fruit would be a God. Sagara just decided seemingly 1/4 through the show Kouta was the guy he wanted to win
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>>23829432
It's also because he is the protagonist of the story.
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>>23829433
Sagara doesn't know that. He didn't read the script.
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Sagara noticed that Future Mai had taken a special interest in Kouta, to the point that she was traveling through time to see him.
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>>23829426
Kouta was the only Man of the Beginning candidate that needed power-ups handed out to him because he's the only one who refused to join Yggdrasill in any capacity. The others got their upgrades through Yggdrasill, and after Kaito left it and was in dire need of a power-up, Helheim granted him one that was on par with Kiwami.

Kouta was pretty much at a disadvantage against Yggdrasill until Kachidoki evened the field, and after he got Kiwami, Micchy and Kaito got their own final forms as well.
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>>23829438
That happened late into the show, and that whole thing also involved Kaito and Micchy, not just Kouta.
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>>23829441
>Helheim granted him one that was on par with Kiwami.

Lord Baron was well above Kiwami. Kouta won, but only with a desperate move of stabbing him with his own weapon when Kaito thought he had the finishing blow. Kiwami's various attacks did little to Kaito.
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>>23829445
If you could only see my face of disappointment through the screen, anon-san
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Sagara said Kouta "needed the most help" because he didn't have the ambition that Kaito and Michy did and was about to just pack it in when he found out about Yuya. He gave him Kachidoki to get a kick in the pants to go after Yggdrasil since he now would have the power to wreck their weapon. It's also implied he wanted Yggdrasil gone because he thought their scheming was "weak" and didn't want Ryoma anywhere near the golden fruit because he'd try to experiment with it since he didn't believe in any power than his own inventions and he wanted the winner of the fruit to use it the "right" way to become a God
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>>23829444
Sagara confronts Mai about her singling out Kouta at the Kachidoki debut.
>Kaito
Sagara also gave us his assessment of Kaito's personality as something to the effect of "that retard's going to get his hands on something dangerous and do something stupid." It's also obvious that the Overlords were parallels to the lead Rider trio: noble retard, angry retard, and scheming retard.
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>>23829454
>Sagara confronts Mai about her singling out Kouta at the Kachidoki debut.
He said he brought Kouta back into the battle because she was obsessed with him and that he just wanted to see who wins the Golden Fruit even though he couldn't see the future. Later on, when we actually see present Mai travel back in time, she visits Kouta, Kaito and Micchy (explaining the past scenes where she cryptically approached each of them), and when she goes back to the conversation she had with Sagara during the Kachidoki debut, Sagara says she helped him narrow down the candidates who had the potential to win the Golden Fruit by seeking those three out. And Kaito conveniently becomes an overpowered Overlord shortly after this, which means Helheim didn't dismiss him.
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>>23829454
Sagara's also disappointed that Kouta's solution after winning was to isolate the forest at the edge of the galaxy, rather than use his power and forest to force humanity to evolve to the next stage, which is basically what Kaito said he wanted to do. So I don't think Sagara dismissed Kaito out of hand. If anything Kaito sounds like the guy he wanted to win.
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>>23828251
>>23828259
Yeah, frankly despite Satoh becoming popular because of his range through possessed Ryutaro, it's really, really hard to imagine current Satoh portraying Ryutaro.

Part of it is physicality. Ryutaro works as a meek and scrawny guy while Satoh nowadays gained a bit of mass, so it would be weird. He can still pull off possessed Ryutaro, but the meek Ryotaro? Physically weird.
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>>23829496
>Yeah, frankly despite Satoh becoming popular because of his range through possessed Ryutaro

I mean he was basically popular because of his Urataros possession. The whole Ikemen attitude is what made him popular and is most of his roles now. It's not like he became popular for his break dancing.
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If ex aid was made today, you think Takahashi would have made a rider based on gacha?
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I’m now realizing the final form look like it could be in ultraman
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>>23829503
Is that really up to him? Isn't that the producer's job?
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>>23829504
Could give off Ultraman Mebius vibes. The colors and shape scream Mebius Brace in the first place.
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>>23829507
I guess your right
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>>23829503
>>23829510
How old are you? Why can't you write properly?
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>>23829089
I genuinely wish "vague retarded redditor statements screencapped from Twitter" was bannable
Holy fuck rope yourself and fuck off
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Will Zeztz get a group henshin?
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>>23829522
Yeah
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>>23829510
newfag
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our fathers
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>>23829521
4fag acting like they’re better than an twitfag poster
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>>23829522
I'd say around the time that Sieg is beaten in such a way that all the evil is knocked outta him. Then Zeztz, Nox and Dawn will trio henshin together to stop the big bad Nightmare guy.
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>>23829513
>>23829524
Don’t samefag me
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>>23829536
Nah, I expect the triple Rider henshin to be a movie exclusive scene due to very specific circumstances
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Finally went back to Agito after months to be prepared for the movie and I've a question. Is there a production reason why so many of Agito's fights are weapon based and not hand to hand, or was it just happened to be that way
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>>23829551
Weapons, especially swords, are probably just easier to work with when it comes to stuff like this. Probably helps that Takaiwa was familiar with kendo. Though his performance did noticeably suffer whenever the sword in question was too weird or unorthodox.
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>>23829522
Yes, but with Zero as Dark ZEZTZ instead of DAWN.
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>>23829536
Unless Dawn becomes the final boss himself. Code: Somnia is most likely another Gore Nightmare.
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Zeztz scans preview
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>>23829633
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>>23829633
With how much this season has actually allowed upgrades to breathe I'm surprised Ordem is getting outclassed so soon
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>>23829635
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>>23829638
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>>23829639
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>>23829641
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>>23829642
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>>23829643
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>>23829638
>Zeztz ExDream form's first ability: The ability to move freely between reality and dreams.
>The remaining abilities include possessing combat power surpassing that of his nemesis, being able to use all forms of weapons, and being able to unleash the Ultimate Rider Kick, capable of shattering nightmares.
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>>23829641
Oh? So darkness Zeztz does have a driver
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>>23829645
So... just like regular zeztz ability?
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>watching Rx after blk
>trade evil cult empire for evil space invader empire
> more sci-fi settings and designs
> double down on chunni aura
> still poke at christianity
kamen rider jesus is good to far
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>>23829645
So ExDream is the only form that can completely kill a Nightmare and its essence before it can be retrieved by a butterfly?
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>>23829638
>Versus 6

Unless 5 and 6 get an upscale they're in coughing baby versus hydrogen bomb territory.
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>>23829653
That's basically what Black RX was suppose to be. Take Black, make it much more fantastical and sci-fi focused and really up the toku hero-ness of it, while making many more toys.
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>>23829652
Yes except Zeztz can do none of those normally.
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https://twitter.com/agito_movie/status/2046771833807278129
The Agito cast.
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>>23829653
I like how he is technically both the child of the sun and moon
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>>23829644
The 50th anniversary of TV-kun, and it featured Robocon in the middle of its very first cover. Such growth is amazing.
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>>23829660
5 is going through Code Somnia right now so he's probably gonna come back as a Nightmare
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>>23829665
They get better for it because it gives them more focus. Black kinda get power creeped with the monsters and their powers getting disproportional and ridiculous atleast now its more grounded in a sci-fi/fantasy.
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>>23829725
Ozawa would probably think this is straight piss
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>>23829653
>>23829693
being from SEA, always seeing praises of Black, being herald as this standard for Rider shows. Watching it myself, it just felt slow and draggy at times that I had to pause midway and resumed a couple of months later.

When I get to RX, I managed to binge it within 2 weeks easily. I just find RX to be the better of the two despite the popular view is the opposite.
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>>23829728
free crits
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>>23829752
heh
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>>23826528
Nice post, I needed brain damage from a retard
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>>23829638
>Immediately facing Exdream after being in a coma
Kureha please go home...
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>>23829780
At least she never had to fight Catastrom?
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>>23829675
He can transform in the real world, he can use the Inazuma Blaster in any form, he can Rider Kick, he can bullshit a power-up whenever he wants.
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Man, these last 10 episodes of Gavv are really dragging. A least the drama isn't forced like Geats but they really should have killed off the Stomachs earlier. Them being Shoma family is just pointless at this point and everyone is just super uninteresting. So far the final is better than Geats but still not good
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>>23829635
>>23829638
>>23829639
Seems like Dawn is Exdream's debut opponent instead of Lord Three Boosted.
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>>23829636
Orderm uses too much CGI
With Plasma they could get away with generic lightning plugin and Catastrom is just punch hard boy
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>>23830000
They could just let Orderm use the Triple Zeztzer since a gun like that fits the form much better than Catastrom does.
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>>23829645
>The ability to move freely between reality and dreams.
Has this ever been much of an issue? Baku can already transform in the real world, and he's made quick work of every Nightmare that has ever made it there.
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>>23829638
>being able to use all forms of weapons, and being able to unleash the Ultimate Rider Kick

It's kind of wasted here, but it's still nice to see them calling back to Ultimate Kuuga like that.

>>23830060
I'm assuming the idea is that he can move between realms without needing to fall asleep or wake up. I can imagine we're going to get some Dr. Strange Astral Realm type shenanigans in the fights now.
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>>23830084
>It's kind of wasted here, but it's still nice to see them calling back to Ultimate Kuuga like that.
First of all, being able to use all major weapons is just kind of a regular final form thing, Exdream isn't even shown using the modes of the Breakam Zezter tied to the side forms. And its finisher isn't called "Ultimate Rider Kick", they're just saying it's the ultimate (in Japanese, not in English like the "Ultimate" in Ultimate Form) Rider Kick, the kick's actual name is Rise Great Punish.
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>>23830084
>I'm assuming the idea is that he can move between realms without needing to fall asleep or wake up
Again, what is the point? He has never fallen asleep or woken up too late to stop a threat, and they've never tried to double team him by attacking him on both fronts at the same time.
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>>23830119
>what is the point?
nta but the obvious answer is that new villains will be able to do that
Kamen Riders get new toys to combat enemies with abilities that are stronger than theirs
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>>23830154
But it's debuting against Dawn and then fights Lord Six.
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>>23829140
Like we've told you every time you get unbanned, just kill yourself if you hate toku that much
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>>23830167
Stop projecting so much and tell that to the anon I replied to instead, schizophrenic faggot.
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>>23830170
He's copying and pasting a post that called him out in hopes to get that anon banned >>23830110
The shitposter does that almost every time, he takes a random post from an anon then starts posting it over and over again until he gets banned, you can see that when viewing the deleted posts in the threads from the two archive link that anon posted
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>>23830177
Man that's pathetic even by shitposter standards, he can't even come up with his own posts

>>23830102
NTA but I think the anon is assuming the design is based on Kuuga Ultimate since that's the producer's favorite Rider show
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>>23830180
>but I think the anon is assuming the design is based on Kuuga Ultimate
He's not talking about the design, he's talking about the stuff he quoted which he thinks are Ultimate references.
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>>23830184
Thanks and my bad I didn't read his post properly
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>>23830000
> Orderm uses too much CGI
No you retard. They just waited too long to debut it.
Dualmare toy has been out for over 2 months and Catastrom debuted 10 episodes ago.
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>>23825614
Only one (technically 2) of them have bikes though
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>People posting in the other thread
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>>23830555
Other thread?
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>>23830555
>>23830576
Nevermind just saw it
It's mostly the shitposter bumping himself so we can just keep ignoring that thread and pretending it doesn't exist
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https://x.com/GeminiJun621/status/2046962872488747489
Jun Watanabe will direct an episode soon.
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>>23830597
He's the action director for the whole show and summer movie anon
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>>23830613
>action director
>action
Anon... learn to read.
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>>23830617
The two twitter posts say nothing about him directing an episode like Fukuzawa or Sakamoto though
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>>23830626
Can't even see either. I wonder who is dictating my posts to you.
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>>23830637
You're not dictating wrong I'm just really retarded
Between Fukuzawa and Watanabe now doing formal directing work I wonder if they're going to promote the current assistant action directors
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Catastrom is my favorite form in all of Reiwa but ExDream is my favorite Reiwa final form. Zeztz is the beztz
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>>23827444
Haganeya Jin has been a freelancer for a couple of years now (Nitro+ is pretty much dead on the VN front), it's not impossible. Outside of penning two collab events for Type Moon (for FGO), he's only been doing some episode writing for seasonal anime recently
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>>23830659
He was the head writer for Monster Strike last year at least

>>23830642
I don't see Jun Watanabe retiring from action direction anytime soon but Fukuzawa has been doing this for over a decade so I could definitely see Yasuhiro Takeuchi becoming a new action director
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>>23829653
RX was my childhood
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>>23830523
It's actually three:
>ZX has his personal bike
>Kenzan technically has his own Gatriker since he has the phone
>Tycoon has access to the Boostriker whenever he has a Boost Buckle
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>>23829426
> Really seemed like he blatantly stacked the deck in Kouta's favor

That was kind of the point. Helheim's system of progress is flawed because it just results in sociopathic kings winning, and rather than evolving the race it completely stagnates them instead. So Sagara/the will of Helheim decided to stack the deck in favor of the moralfag this time to see if anything changes.
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>>23830597
Maybe he's directing the Exdream debut 2-parter.
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>>23830679
I always forget that Gatriker isn't exclusive to the main trio
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>>23829121
Bring up how Build is way better than ExAid and that one anon comes out of the woodwork real quick
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>>23829495
The three main overlords are meant to be mirrors of Takatora, Kaito and Micchy, taken to their ideological conclusion. Like >>23829454 said, the angry retard, the scheming retard and the noble retard (but its Takatora, not Kouta), the show even paired them together for their arcs. Kaito fought Demushu to the death, Micchy was a retard that thought Redyue wouldn't backstab him, and Rosyuo and Takatora are both the noble invincible kings that failed to see the true nature of the people around him until it's too late.

It's implied that this was how every single planet forced to undergo the Helheim challenge eventually plays out, the one that has the strength to survive falls into one of the three. That's why Sagara was spoonfeeding upgrades to Kouta, because Mai's timetravelling confirmed who were the finalist, and they all match up except for the one moralfag that's completely out of the norm, and he wanted to give him a chance to see what happens.
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>>23830713
The problem with Sagara spoonfeeding Kouta so much kinda makes it feel as though Kouta doesn't really earn anything. He just kept getting power-ups due to favoritism from other parties. At the very least, I feel like he should have stolen the Q1 upgrade on his own. Like he's running around the base trying to find an escape route, stumbles across some cool shit lying around, takes the one thing that looks like it might be useful and also easy to carry and leaves. Like even if Sagara wanted to give Kouta a chance, he should have done more to force Kouta to earn these upgrades.
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>>23830523
>>23830679
He did too, once.
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>>23830529
>No Den-O
Fuck that then.
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>>23830742
>Like even if Sagara wanted to give Kouta a chance, he should have done more to force Kouta to earn these upgrades.

He made him crawl across the room while injured to get his final form to make up for lost time. That's something.
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>>23830765
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>Kuuga: Turns out, you just have to run a voltage through the Arcle to make it stronger.
>Agito: Shouichi recovers his memories of his past. This allows him to use Trinity Form, a form he never fucking used even before his memory loss.
>Ryuki: Kanzaki gives Shinji the Survive Rekka card in order to get him to tatakae more. For some reason, it never fucking occurred to Kanzaki that Shinji would just use the card to try to stop the tatakae even harder.
>555: "Here, use this watch I found." "UPS delivery!"
>Hibiki: "Monsters get stronger in the summer, so I decided to get a power-up. No, I won't explain why literally no other oni uses this form."
>Kabuto: "I was supposed to get this upgrade, therefore I will. Fuck you."
>Den-O: Ryutaros can just create power-ups. There's no explanation for why he can do this.
>Kiva: Tatsulot was just in the attic the whole time. Apparently, no one ever bothered to go up there for the past twenty years.
>Decade: The power-up was just buried in the World of Negative the whole time. Why? Fuck you, that's why.
>Gaim: "Hey kid! I like the cut of your jib! Here's a free upgrade on the house! What the hell, take three!"
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>>23830742
I agree, it makes Kouta kind of an unsatisfying protagonist when you consider the story from a Hero's Journey point of view. But it wouldn't mix with the scenario setting being essentially existential horror. Sagara had to spoonfeed Kouta because he'd never succeed otherwise in the setting, moralfags without strength like him are always the first to die, and even with strength they're going to get betrayed, like Takatora or Rosyue.
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>>23830768
I wanna play devil's advocate
>Kuuga
This references ancient Egypt conspiracy theories that suggests they had access to some kind of electrical current technology (see with hieroglyphs that appear to resemble primitive light bulbs.
>Agito
The powers of Trinity become usable because his brain finally has access to his past, present and future conceptions.
>Ryuki
Survive not only grants access to a new form, but it also increases aggression in the user, so that the end of the Rider War will arrive sooner.
>Faiz
Kusaka tried to use it himself but didn't realise it's incompatible with the Kaixa Gear, so that's why he throws it - out of frustration.
>Hibiki
It's a sword because in the past, traditional "sword dances" incorporated music into their techniques. That's it.
>Kabuto
After the events of Kabuto, Tendou travels into the distant future where he is the one to invent the Zecters. Hence, the Zecters act according to future Tendou's whims.
>Den-O
Den-O is confirmed to take place in the same universe as Ressha Sentai ToQger, where it is established that the human imagination is a powerful force of strength and creation. The Singularity Point phenomenon is linked to this (ToQgers are also all Singularity Points). Tie this further to IMAGIN who are beings given form from the human imagination and there you are. Since their forms (including their matching weapons) manifest from the imagination, there's no reason a more concerted effort couldn't create something like the DenKamen Sword.
>Kiva
Tatsulot is really fucking annoying, so no one wanted to see him.
>Decade
The person who buried it there was none other than Dark Decade himself.
>Gaim
idk lol
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>>23830813
>Den-O is confirmed to take place in the same universe as Ressha Sentai ToQger,
Crossovers are not canon unless brought up later in-show. Toku doesn't abide by the same autistically set in stone shared universe rules that western media does. Someone I'm sure has the screen shot of the overlapping bubble theory, but I don't right now. Basically crossovers are their own thing and don't take them as gospel.
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>>23830859
Fine, but the latter part of the Den-O explanation still makes sense though.
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>>23830859
>not canon unless brought up later in show
Literally your headcanon.
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