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>>23924709Fuck this gayass thread.
>>23924727code gayass is this way bro >>23902885
Post your farewell words to Zero.
https://twitter.com/toeiHERO_movie/status/2071503943033594307The Lady and Zero.
>>23924606 #Yeah, Nakamura is basically fan favorite and easy to get these days. Which is funny because he had a brief retirement and Kamen Rider 3 movie was his big comeback.>It's a shame about Asumu's original chill rival before the staff change who never shows up again and the actor only got a minor villain role in W.Speaking of, his suit was repurposed to Kamen Rider Eiki, who's also planned to be a main character (he got a specific debut compared to Danki and Sabaki) which is also a shame because he looks cool. Ahhh really wish Hibiki got a continuation, in manga form or something. Plus maybe we'll finally get Ibuki's final form this way.
>>23924764God I wanna fuck Nem's mom so bad
Less than 10 episodes left now.
>>23924763>mangaThey really should, if not that an AU Hibiki like Kuuga's only you know, not made by Inoue
havent checked on zeztz in a minute are there aliens now?
>>23924915Aliens and all other paranormal things are a product of Nightmare activity.
>>23924919wack
>>23924764>tfw an asian woman heightmogs you
>>23924936is he short or is she just really tall?
>>23924956She’s wearing heels most likely, Jay Kabira is 3cm taller than Rie Mimura
>>23925020His listed height is also probably not updated as he shrinks with age, a process he would be well into now in his 60s, and she would only just be starting in her 40s.
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>>23925075Hellrising Hopper is still king
Asumu got NTRed wtf
>>23925152Hibiki 2nd half is just awful
Catastrophe's early and later photos.
>>23925155So far it's pretty okay. I mean differences are there but I feel like at least they're not completely a different show yet. I heard the endgame is where they dropped the ball hard.
4 agents dead/received flowers by episode 41, 4 remaining.
>>23925163And 3 of the 4 remaining are the ones who deserve to die the most.
>>23925157...Kiva?
I just started ZZZ it kind of bugs me how they haven't explained how the dream world effects reality. Usually they do a info dumb early on about this shit only to drop it once the mid season stars. by for some reason they actually never go into it
The Kamen Rider Zeztz question of this week.
https://twitter.com/MAAAAAAAASAHIRO/status/2071424560084423156"The video comments are now public!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7cCTSDtxks&t=3s
>>23925191Like many things in this show, it just does.
>>23925191I forget if it was the pilot director or the producer but on an interview they said they wanted to avoid info dumps and instead explain everything with subtle visuals due to how wordy the script was, which as you can see this backfired kinda hard
>>23924763>his suit was repurposed to Kamen Rider Eiki, who's also planned to be a main characterSource?
Happy 36th birthday, Subaru Kimura.
>>23924775Good fucking god there's nine more episodes of this shit?
>>23924936God I fucking wish.
https://twitter.com/inanutshell78/status/2071609618225299550Knight Seventeen.
>>23925191You dream of Nem you coom in real life
https://twitter.com/next_omega_/status/2071566376125526244
>>23925157Someone ain't polishing his bronze.
Damn, how many times has Baku been shot in the show so far. Like 2/3 times? Bro's taking bullets like a champ
>>23925258shes underage?
>>23925307Nah
>>23925307Not the character at the very least.
Every reiwa rider except Revice homaged their heisei number conterpart, does revice have anything in common with ryuki? Do you think MY-TH will homage Den-O in some way?
>>23925324The "homages" are all in your head, anon.
>>23925324That was never a thing. Zero-One had the grasshopper motif not because it's a heisei counterpart but because it was the first one of the era, so he fits in with Ichigo and Kuuga.The only show that did overt homages was Revice because it was an anniversary season.
>>23925301dw it's all in dreams or dream rubber bullets
>>23925331Eh there’s small things and similarities, agito and saber are dragons, gotchard and Blade use cards to trap monsters. Geats has more similarities to Ryuki and Faiz than revice. Zeztz and Kabuto are both from hidden organizations and have a major tech theme. No idea about hibiki and Gavv though, both purple?
Japan would have won if they had Kouta and Kaito on the team.
>>23925341Those are coincidences, not intentional similarities.
>>23925324Those are unironically coincidental>Zero-One being a grasshopper like WThat's just because both are inspired by Ichigo due to the nature of their releases>Saber being a Dragon like Agito, needing 3 items to transform like OOOThat was because the belt looked incomplete, Saber was originally meant to be an Art-themed Rider, then because the designs were bland they went with a book motif where Saber's main form was based on Arthur's Roundtable Legend, but because the belt felt incomplete, in order to make them fun they came up with the combo gimmick, Saber being a Dragon was just because the image was striking and his white undersuit is a leftover of the art Rider idea where the undersuit was a Canvas>Revice needing a contract like Ryuki, referencing other riders like FourzeRevice being a contract was a result due to being inspired by Dr Hyde, Chainsawman and Jujutsu Kaisen. The staff wanted to cross of fire rule to be inspired by science due to Showa Rider but also wanted to chase the trends of modern shounen so they went with a deal with the devil gimmick of Hyde>Geats' design being vaguely similar to 555 from the waist down, I having a Phi symbol and having a bike that turns into an animal like WizardAll of these are stretches at most>Gotchard being a blue card Rider like Blade and with orange hues like GaimFor whatever reason the staff didn't come up with the themes of the show so executive Shirakura just proposed cards as a surefire sales success, the colors are just coincidental, same with Gaim being blue like Blade even if the script for Gaim was inspired by Ryuki and Blade which Urobuchi liked>Gavv being a purple organic Rider like HibikiOnce again coincidental, Gavv was meant to be merman but the idea was rejected and Bandai proposed snacks, because of this they went with gummies which are usually purple and retained the inhuman aspects of the original pitch(1/2)
>>23925424>Zeztz having an eye motif like GhostBeing tasked to make the first season to officially release in the US the producer wanted a theme that could be understood by both Japanese and western audiences without being "too trendy like Gavv" to not confuse westerners about what Rider is about, writer Takahashi had left a note at Toei for a Rider with the powers of dreams which was something general enough to appeal to both, dreams just naturally lent themselves to eye imagery like Ghost "eyes are windows of the soul" imageryWith My-Th we know it has a Fable motif just like Den-O and there are some uncomfired rumors about the show having Tom & Jerry inspirations which if you're reaching you could say it mirrors Ex-Aid's anime inspiration but we won't know until we got interviews and honestly already believe it's also coincidence. They most likely wanted a Chinese theme to appeal to the Chinese audience, decided on the zodiac, realized it was too limiting as a theme, then decided to mix it up with Fables to make the motifs more flexible if I had to guess.(2/2)
>>23925424Quite alof of coincidences
>>23925193What's the point in destroying them?
>>23925477Revenge, he states it multiple times that he just wants revenge against what CODE did to him and didn't really care about the cases of the weeks' lives but Baku would make him feel conflicted due to him also being agent and Nox grooming him into becoming this.The problem with this is that Nox just ignores all of the emotional confrontations with Baku and Fujimi and the timing of Nox deciding to be an asshole. It basically makes his reasoning unforgivable, the way the rest of the cast except kinda for Baku sometimes just sweep all of this under the bus bizarre and it severely hurts Fujimi's character as his contributions to the story essentially constantly get reset by Nox continuing to be a dick and things getting so apocalyptic for the Nightmares getting public to matter for his character, at least so far.
>>23925424>but because the belt felt incomplete, in order to make them fun they came up with the combo gimmick,The combo gimmick was a leftover from the initial Art motif, the base would've been like a white canvas that gained color as it powered up. It was then adapted to the book motif, giving off the image that the Rider grew stronger by gradually gaining more wisdom from the books he added to his belt.
Sorry, his face was so editable
The way the show is handling Sieg is so strange. Nobody wanted him in the room when he came back to life, but then the show gives him a few redeemable moments like the heroes agreeing with him about the freedom of dreams, him giving them some info about Somnia and then helping Zero out so he can finish recreating the Zeztz Driver, and thus the heroes decide to give him a second chance and the show lays it on thick with the message that even someone like him can be redeemed, but as soon as that happens, it doubles down on Sieg's evilness and makes it seem like he's a completely remorseless asshole who just wants to watch the world burn and has no interest in atoning for his misdeeds at all.It reminds me of the constant back and forth involving Nox, who in one episode might help the heroes out or say something that makes it look like he's inching closer to becoming a good guy, only to do a 180 and commit utterly unjustifiable acts of evil in the very next one.
>>23925570My crackpot theory is that Takahashi prefers extremely goofily evil villains like Kuroto, Masamune, Gai, Beroba, Suel, etc. but Yanaka wants to make morally ambiguous characters, so they just decided to do both despite not making sense.
>>23925577Literally all but one of the villains you mentioned got redeemed by Takahashi.
>Baku actually riding his bike this episodeHe's already by default the protagonist to Rider his bike the most this decade right?
>>23925583perks of being a lone hero
Rewatching Zi-O for the first time in like 8 years.They never did explain how Geiz got his personal Ridewatch, or how the Resistance even managed to have the same tech as Oma ZI-O, or have multiple Time Mazines. Man what a show
>>23925174which 3 that is the question
>>23925570On the one hand I did enjoy the "well, I'm dead, so unfortunately you get the weird version of me you remember rather than the version of me that was real" angle they did for a couple of episodes, but yeah. Nox and Sieg just seem to kind of be stuck in a rut of idiocy and whatever character development they get either doesn't stick or was a facade or any number of things, so it just means I can't believe anything sticking for the rest of the show. Shame really, as I was really enjoying Zeztz up until about Three shitting the bed.
>>23925588yeah the 2068 timeline not explored (both the Oma Zi-O and Geiz Revive versions) is a huge knock against the show
>>23925588Yeah, the original plan was Woz setting up both sides. There's even a comment about how Woz was from the rebellion and then joined Oma Zi-O in the actual show. When they dropped the idea of Woz setting up everything a lot of the 2068 stuff just ended up without explanation.
>>23925599 >>23925577I was afraid they'd do Sieg dirty and just make him Genm 2.0 (god I miss the calculating murderbastard game master that was Dan The Man's Wild Ride back then) but yeah, him turning out to be an adrenaline junkie and basically a Cenobite who could get pulled back as an antivillain. All of Kuroto's characterisation went out the window when he did the Muteki arc imo, and the same has happened to Sieg after Exdream.
Is it more or has the Opening songs really started to go down since Reiwa started
>>23925636I think the only Reiwa OP that in retrospect I'm nto really huge on was actually Zero-One's. I love TM Revolution but it wasn't really a good fit for him instrumentally. He needs over-the-top club instrumentals to let his voice bounce around in.
>>23925636Most /m/ anons including me aren't into modern pop songs, to me they just blend in a lot with each other. I agree with the other anon that Real X Eyes is the only OP that has wowed me so far in Reiwa, unless you're also counting spin-off shows because then Did You See the Sunrise also goes really damn hard.
>>23925655I was saying the opposite. REALxEYEZ didn't wow me. It felt like kind of a waste of TMR (They compensated with Another Daybreak at least). The rest are all good and exciting while feeling appropriate to their respective musicians. Almighty is exactly the kind of high-tempo, exciting absurdism you want from a big ska band like Tokyo SkaPara. Trust・Last is both seductive with Koda Kumi and exciting with Shonan no Kaze. CHEMYxSTORY is right in the wheelhouse of FLOW and BACK-ON with its anime-style buttrock. GOT BOOST? is very whimsical and cheerful which is appropriate for a softboi boyband like FANTASTICS. Visions feels appropriate for NAQT VANE as a weird and ominous-sounding song full of mixed-language usage, and PLAY BACK is not only thematic but it's the exact chuuni buttrock flavor that YUTA fits well.The only other one that feels as misplaced as REALxEYEZ is LiveDevil, since it's not only conceptually atonal from Da-iCE it's also completely atonal with the show itself (it's a very ominous, melancholy song about the narrator feeling abandoned by God and tempted by demons which the show never really goes into despite that being the goddamn plot), btu even that still uses melodies that Da-iCE works with.The kind of J-Rock TMR does is very clubby with a fast and bouncing tempo where his voice is the dominant presence. in REALxEYEZ his voice is constantly drowned out by J's bass and the overall band itself at all the points where his voice should be the only presence.
>>23925636I can't hate Saber's ska, and I fuck with Trust Last - it fits the show to a tee.
>>23925522>The combo gimmick was a leftover from the initial Art motifNow I want the Rider after My-th to have an Art motif.
With this shot now I'm 100% sure Kami is directing the summer movie
https://twitter.com/toeiHERO_movie/status/2071745531064512696
https://twitter.com/KamenRider_EN/status/2071624776020640139"So... who's taking home the trophy this year?"
The three riders of Kamen Rider Zeztz.
>>23925671I always wonder about the crashed and destroyed cars we see in the shows. Are they actual props or actual junked cars they get from the junkyard?
https://files.catbox.moe/07rkvu.mp4
>>23925668Zeztz is a stealth Art show.
>>23925704wtf kami? you going senile?
>>23925699What a fucking awful Trio, and it's all because the Secondary and Tertiary both fucking suck while the Main suffers from being the only good guy that's allowed to be competent.
Finished all of Heisei Rider. Now I just have Saber through Gavv to watch and I'll finally seen every season
>>23925636REALxEYEZ and Trust Last are the only good ones, but Trust Last is way ahead of it.Everything else has been either lame, gay, lame AND gay, or something that a forgettable seasonal anime would have as an OP.Visions is a waste of Sawano. Whatever was the Revice opening is fucking miserable.
>>23925790>Whatever was the Revice opening is fucking miserablehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUJTGTutcqI
>>23925307not this October 10th
>>23925703The one from that episode from Geats was one they got to break in that episode. Don't know about the rest.
>>23925677>movie so bad it caused Japan losing in World Cup
Who'll get the V-Cinema form this time? Nox or Dawn?
>>23925735They did the lonely Rider aspect the worst way possible. They introduce two Riders that are awful just to make sure Zeztz is the only hero. But then they also introduce rivals that aren't called Kamen Riders but do the same thing and morally question their actions more than the other two Riders do. What the fuck was the point in any of that, at least they could've had Dawn not be a Rider at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5AAdgc_xE4Agito 26.
>>23925822I really want to see the 2 mandatory post-series interviews to see what the hell was their reasoning, I just cannot comprehend what Yanaka and Takahashi were going for
>>23925821The V-Cinema focusing on Zeztz and Nox dealing with Dawn with an upgrade as the main villain to deal with him once and for all seems like the most likely direction. Nox is already getting a bigger focus in the summer movie and he doesn't really need an upgrade.
>>23925704I still can't believe he just dies anticlimactically. We don't even get to see him as Lord Zero which is bullshit. He could've at least fought as Zeroider more with Zeztz.
>>23925834So basically something like this? I could see it, but I'm worried they won't be able to make it coherent because of how less connected Sieg is compared to Kuroto.
>>23925834Usually the V-Cinema has a new villain suit too. If it's Nox vs Dawn, I could see both getting new forms.
>>23925841>you now remember how amazing Kiriya and Kuroto wereIt really is a damn shame how Omori doesn't have a proper successor, since Tsukada manage to carry on many philosophies from Takatera, then Omori from both Tsukada and Hikasa. But then the only one that actually carried several design philosophies from Omori was Mochizuki who screwed everything up by picking the worst writer possible whenever possible, only Gorider from him turned out great.Kobayashi soft retiring and recommending Mouri and Shimoyama really was one of the worst things that could have happened to Toei.
Swear to god it's some loud minority or some newfags trying to fit in acting like Zeztz is teh worst evar.
>>23925859There's a loud minority that always exaggerates things as to being the worst or best for the sake of shitposting, I mean look at that anon in the episode thread or the spammer on this and the previous thread. But Zeztz is still really flawed, I ultimately feel that by the end it will be remembered the same as Geats, something inoffensive but unimpressive for oldfags but pretty great for young people. But yeah for me Zeztz is pretty good overall but not standout.
>>23925859I mean, you can see by all the praise Sentai gets here, in spite of it being really unpopular overall, that a lot of anons value the whole camaraderie aspect a lot, and that's completely missing from the set up of Zeztz's Riders, even compared to other Rider shows.
>>23924344>>The lesson is to not let a Rider fan, a Kuuga fanboy that, be a producer of a (modern) Rider series?>Unironically maybe? I don't mind Yanaka as much as that anon but Kuji and Minato are hardcore Kamen Rider fans and they turned out to be pretty shit. By comparison Takatera and Tsukada were more into Kaiju than anything, Shirakura and Matsuura into Mecha, Takebe into crime dramas, Hikasa into horse betting and both Omori and Utsunomiya into Sentai. That's not to say they don't like Kamen Rider, Matsuura, Shirakura and Utsunomiya definitely do, but most of them didn't grow up watching Rider, in Takebe's case she didn't even grow up watching toku.what do you think of this deranged point?
>>23925867Reasonable take even though I found Geats to be entertaining and liked Ace as a Rider.>>23925871They'd hate Ryuki and Faiz.
>>23925859>>23925867As someone new who started with Zeztz before watching the other shows, I'd agree. It's not bad of a show. Certainly doesn't hit Rider's highs but doesn't hit its lows either. If I didn't like it, I wouldn't be here.
>>23925871Your point makes no sense. Sentai is pretty popular and anons here like lonely Showa riders. People disliking the dynamic in Zeztz have nothing to do with how there's a lack of teams it's just that Nox is legitimately poorly written, Sieg is poorly placed and the side cast is mostly useless.People would probably had been happier had Nox and Sieg been fully treated as villain without redemption while the cops, Nem and Minami remain more useful to Baku to have a dynamic similar to Kuuga's between Baku and his sidecast, instead of what the show has where Baku is doing everything himself at the cost of the development of everyone else.
>>23925875I like Geats too I just wouldn't put it as good as most of Heisei, Geats and Zeztz just remind me of modern Shounen like Jujutsu Kaisen for reason, I enjoy them well enough but they're too flawedAce is an entertaining smug cunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ9aC6vXE9MAgito 27.
>>23925211Props to them for trying the "show don't tell" approach, regardless.
>>23925900It's weird because King-Ohger which was also by Kami would too do a show don't tell approach but I feel they pulled it off better because they told the actors in advance how the story would developIt's a shame since I feel Zeztz would have been able to pull that off too if they had told the cast since everyone are very talented actors this time
>>23925875Nah, Ryuki has many scenes of the Riders hanging out, even if it's just generally two of them at once, rather than larger groups, although there are a few scenes with more.Even with Faiz you did have different groups hanging out, even if Kusaka was trying to undermine the protagonists (and it was hated here for a long time).>>23925882>Your point makes no sense. Sentai is pretty popularNah. Anons here say it's just toysales, ignoring they couldn't keep theatrical releases years before getting completely cancelled.Look at this demographic breakdown image and how small the Sentai translucent area is compared to Rider's (which is what indicates the size of the fanbase).>and anons here like lonely Showa riders.Do they though? there's barely talk about Showa series. If everyone was forced to watch one due to being the actual current running show, I think you'd see a lot of bashing for similar reasons you see with Zeztz (like the supporting cast being unable to accomplish things).>People would probably had been happier had Nox and Sieg been fully treated as villain without redemption while the cops, Nem and Minami remain more useful to Baku to have a dynamic similar to Kuuga's between Baku and his sidecast, instead of what the show has where Baku is doing everything himself at the cost of the development of everyone else.Even in Kuuga's case the cops only managed to really be useful in the 40s and even then just to kill one on-screen Grongi who didn't even get to transform after being around for a long time. I can see that whole situation being bashed to hell if it happened with a running series with weekly discussions.Although I guess they did give Kuuga his bikes at least, but when people talk about the supporting cast being useful they clearly mean more than background support.The issue with keeping Nox and Dawn as permanent villains is that it'd also mean Zeztz couldn't take them down which would lead to complaints in a different direction
>>23925881How do you know about Rider's highs if Zeztz is your first show?
>>23925867>look at that anon in the episode threadWhat anon?
>>23925913>If everyone was forced to watch one due to being the actual current running show, I think you'd see a lot of bashing for similar reasons you see with ZeztzNah they'd like V3 and Stronger, then hate everything else but not for the same reasons as Zeztz but rather all of the production issues that happened behind the scenesPeople like the concept of lonely heroes, it was praised when Gavv did it until Valen joined in like episode 8, but there's a reason why Heisei is the only part of Rider that's fondly rememberedWith most instances with Heisei when production shenanigans happened the staff would be able to bounce back with sheer creativity, but Showa and Reiwa whenever a production issue happens it takes a significant toll on the show, it's impressive how Stronger managed to be so good despite everything that happened behind the scenes>Even in Kuuga's case the cops only managed to really be useful in the 40s and even then just to kill one on-screen Grongi who didn't even get to transform after being around for a long timeBut you saw them get proper development, even though the drama between Jean and Enokida technically didn't contribute anything to the main story it's fondly remembered here, also the comedy with TsubakiIt really isn't a matter of "good thing would be bashed today" unless you count shitposting for some reason, Zi-O onward shows just have far more tangible flaws than your average Heisei, with Showa it's not weird to say it'd be hated today since after all the franchise died 3 times back then but the "lonely hero" deal really wasn't one of its weaknesses >>23925926He literally says in his post that he watched other shows while Zeztz is airing after starting with Zeztz, get better reading comprehension
>>23925859The newfags are the ones that suck Zeztz off the most, it's the oldfags who are always the harshest with the newest shows, because they've already seen better ones.
>>23925934Oldfags don't pretend new shows are the worst thing ever (except Revice because it's pretty much the second worst only being beaten by Super-1), neither that they're the best thing ever since they're far from it, people who just exaggerate every point of conversation to essentially say nothing just don't want to see proper discussionActual oldfags just do the actual normal thing of not fellating new shows because we know better but not use them as some sort of martyr of the worst thing ever by just saying "old good new bad lol" without proper points
early heisei>showa>phase-2 heisei>>>>>>>>>sentai>>>>>>reiwa riders
Are there any modern re-releases of the Norider V2 segments of Tunnel no Minasan no Okage Deshita?
>>23925942>/v/faggotrygrow up and get a life
>>23925938>Oldfags don't pretend new shows are the worst thing everClaiming that the show fell off and that it has some really bad things going on isn't the same as saying it's the worst thing ever. Also, you're on 4chan, hyperbole is par of the course here. The only things that "criticisms" that are ban-worthy are obvious bait and really low effort posts.
>>23925874was Wizard and Kiva also made by a Kuuga fanboy?
>23925934
>>23925946Ignore the obvious bait, newfag.
Gif attempt.
>>23925950I'm sorry that Zeztz isn't as good as you think it is.
>>23925957Do you faggots like anything?
>>23925949>KivaNo>WizardYes although Wizard was more meant to be a Hibiki 2 / Kuuga 1.5 rather than a Kuuga 2 according to the staff
>>23925949No, because their side forms actually look good in their own right.
>>23925950>>23925957>>23925958Stop samefaggingIf you aren't samefagging don't reply to bait
>>23925961that has nothing to do with being a fan though? why did you even reply?>>23925949kiva is trying to emulate den-o rather than kuuga
>>23925875>They'd hate Ryuki and Faiz.No we wouldn't, for the same reason we liked Reiwa Sentai: they were undeniably good shows.
>>23925932>People like the concept of lonely heroes, it was praised when Gavv did it until Valen joined in like episode 8Gavv had the secondary and tertiary much more active and friendly than Zeztz's and yet people often still complained when the show tried to have big solo moments with Gavv later on. It's clear a lot of the appreciation for the early solo hero concept seemed to come with the expectation that wouldn't last the entire show.>But you saw them get proper development, even though the drama between Jean and Enokida technically didn't contribute anything to the main story it's fondly remembered here, also the comedy with TsubakiI feel like a lot of times in recent series when you have some big personal drama that doesn't feed into the main conflict you see people complaining about it just being a waste of time. And, no, I don't see people debating or talking about those characters outside of bringing them up when saying the recent shows are worse.>>23925949Kiva was meant to mimic Den-O's forms, you even have the monsters assigned to each alt form, although unlike Den-O that doesn't include the main base form, although they did use the Kuuga colors instead in Kiva and even matched up the attributes (green gun, blue fast weapon, purple heavy form). Dunno about Wizard. Doing a quick search, couldn't find anything about it being inspired by Kuuga directly.
>>23925958Yeah, good shows.
https://twitter.com/GLOBAL_AYA_/status/2071475048502939874'Congratulations to Hideyoshi Kan for winning 2nd place in the 2026 ASIAN ARTISTS OF GLOBAL INFLUENCE!"
>>23925969>I feel like a lot of times in recent series when you have some big personal drama that doesn't feed into the main conflict you see people complaining about it just being a waste of timeAny examples of this?>And, no, I don't see people debating or talking about those characters iirc just last year an anon was watching Kuuga live and we discussed about it, I wish the backend for desu wasn't down>It's clear a lot of the appreciation for the early solo hero concept seemed to come with the expectation that wouldn't last the entire showV3 and Kuuga are still constantly appreciated in Japan, I don't get why you're pushing this narrative that good shows would be hated today when we have a tangible proof that newer shows are indeed worse than most of Heisei thanks to interviews, it's just like episodic shows and serialized shows, both are just different ways of storytelling and it's ultimately a matter of executing the concepts properlyNewer shows just have worse executions due to a variety of different reasons that causes each modern show to be inconsistent, that doesn't mean most newer shows are terrible but they're worse than most of Heisei
>>23925973Neat that he's getting a successful career.
>>23925979>Any examples of this?I feel like this happened a lot with Zeztz itself already? A lot of criticism when there was drama that didn't have more lengthy pay off and was resolved by the of two episodes.>V3 and Kuuga are still constantly appreciated in JapanWatching fully complete shows is different from weekly watching with commentary like this.>when we have a tangible proof that newer shows are indeed worse than most of Heisei thanks to interviewsI... don't see the logic here.>it's just like episodic shows and serialized shows, both are just different ways of storytelling and it's ultimately a matter of executing the concepts properlyOverall there was a trend of audiences preferring more serialized stories though. It's not a Rider specific thing, it's a general trend in series worldwide.
>>23925913>Even in Kuuga's case the cops only managed to really be useful in the 40s and even then just to kill one on-screen Grongi who didn't even get to transform after being around for a long time. I can see that whole situation being bashed to hell if it happened with a running series with weekly discussions.The side cast in Kuuga was way more competent than you give them credit for. They actually investigated the Gurongi cases, uncovered the history of the Linto and the Gurongi, gradually figured out how Godai's powers worked, supplied him with support gear like the bikes and the tools he needed for Titan and Pegasus, helped Godai unlock the Rising forms, evacuated zones so Godai could safely destroy the kaijin without worrying about the massive explosions he caused with his later forms. You actually get the feeling that Godai wouldn't be nearly as competent of a hero as he is without them.The cops in Zeztz genuinely stand out for how useless they are as supporting characters in a modern show. They're not even good at doing the things you'd expect a cop character in these shows to do, like investigating things. They're basically neutered because they can't travel to dreams like Baku can and Fujimi's hypotheses are almost always wrong. They're dead weight and the show doesn't justify at all why Baku keeps them around, he does it just because.
>>23925988>lengthy pay offBut the drama in Kuuga did have pay-off for the side characters even if they didn't have a direct relation to the main story, Enokida learnt to be a better mother, you see gradual improvement between the relationship with Jean and her son, you, there's also Tsubaki learning to not be as scummy, the progression between Ichijou and Godai, and both Ichijou and Sawatari being constantly useful throughout With Zeztz stuff like Minami not being Baku's sister didn't really alter their relationship not made her whole spin-off that was promoted as something that would be plot relevant worth watching, Nem getting powers didn't really get a payoff thanks to the reset and even when she got them back she's barely used them, then there's the fact that most of the sidecast don't really help Baku much throughout the story making them feel useless and even in the cases the cops do accomplish something their progress gets stripped away shortly after, it's not really the same at all>I... don't see the logic hereThat you're trying to paint Kuuga as somethin that would be as hated as hated as Zeztz if it aired today as if Kuuga wasn't a more competently made show, it really isn't a matter of "oh you can binge watch one while the other is weekly", Kuuga was a sensation back when it aired weekly and people would like it if it did today too, since Kuuga's staff was actually able to properly adapt to production difficulties unlike every Reiwa showHell I don't even hate any Reiwa show besides Revice and I personally like Gavv more than a few beloved Heisei shows but I'm not going to suddenly act as if Reiwa shows are better put together than Heisei shows when we know for a fact they aren't since we have staff interviews>it's a general trend in series worldwideYeah because writers tend to fuck up episodic shows more easily than serialized ones, doesn't mean one style is worse than the other, look at reception to cotw in early Heisei Rider or Dekaranger
>>23925944Tunnel no Okage desu got a modern blu-ray re-release but I think they weren't able to include the Kamen No-Rider segments due to a license issue.There's a DVD re-release of Kamen No-Rider but it didn't include V2, ultimately this https://nyaa.si/view/1942189 is the only way to watch V2 since that I'm aware of due to Toei not re-releasing V2 in any way after acquiring the No-Rider IP from Fuji TV.
https://twitter.com/ac_shinrifu/status/2071069256360644957
>>23925969>Gavv had the secondary and tertiary much more active and friendly than Zeztz's and yet people often still complained when the show tried to have big solo moments with Gavv later on.The main problem lies on how it seems like Valen only existed to prop Gavv up because he rarely accomplished anything without Gavv being there to carry his jobber ass.>And, no, I don't see people debating or talking about those characters outside of bringing them up when saying the recent shows are worse.People rarely talk about those characters for the same reason they rarely talk about older shows, they're not from the new hot thing that's currently airing and that everyone is watching right now, people already had plenty of discussions about them back in the day. If people talk about them, it's either because someone new is currently going through their show or to compare them to newer characters because older shows are a prime reference point. This applies to semi-recent shows too, anons don't discuss Build today nearly as much as they did the first few years after it came out for example.If you think that's because people just want to force an "old good, new bad" argument, then you're getting the wrong idea.
>>23926031>The main problem lies on how it seems like Valen only existed to prop Gavv up because he rarely accomplished anything without Gavv being there to carry his jobber assI don't feel like that's an issue in the big scheme of things for the show since Valen being a sidekick to the protagonist due to the way his powers worked made sense for the show's story. Now Valen not finding out that the Canine Granute died nor him defeating the revived Bake either alone or as a proper 2 against 1 fight with Shouma like Lakia did with Glotta? now those were pretty big issues to Hanto's character. The former stills baffles me, even more after the interviews revealed that no neither Komura, Takebe and Takijima planned to ever acknowledge that Granute and they just did it because Mouri suggested it, I hate Mouri but I'll give him props for that one.
so i see everyone here agrees zeztz is bad
>>23926038>I don't feel like that's an issue in the big scheme of things for the show since Valen being a sidekick to the protagonist due to the way his powers worked made sense for the show's storyThe problem is that, even though Valen being weaker due to having the least amount of Granute genes is logical, the show at times pushed this narrative that Hanto shouldn't be underestimated just because he's a human and that Shouma totally needed him by his side, but what actually happened in the show was the complete opposite of that. It's also not very inspiring for a hero show like this to have a weak character who can't really overcome his limitations and beat someone stronger than he is through stuff like skill or determination. It's why Valen didn't work as an underdog Rider while G3 did.
>>23926063Fair, I continued to like Hanto due to everything else around him like his no bullshit attitude and his investigation skilss but you're right that there's not excuse to not having him defeat motw on his own more often, specially after getting Frappé, when the show states multiple times that he actually can. Instead they just had him constantly fight mooks.
>>23926068Finally he's getting punished.
>>23926071He's getting benched right after getting rid of all the resources CODE could've provided to Baku in the fight against the Gore Nightmares, Zero included. He played right into Phantom's hands and made everything worse for the heroes.On a side note, I like Amano, but goddamn does Sieg have such a punchable face.
>>23926038Mouri only had two big fumbles (Kyuranger and OOO 10th), he's a solid episode writer.
>>23926086He's a solid episode writer but I wouldn't trust him to head another show ever again, not only due to Kyuranger but due to his experience outside of toku mostly being mediocre fundaishi stage plays and stuff adjacent to that.
>>23925213Wiki unfortunately which could be bullshit
>>23925971>>23925963This made me realize, did Gotchard even get night fights? I can't remember
I was born into this world for a reason.
>>23926112In the yokai village arc.
>>23926026kino
>>23926113Please don't commit crime
So is Nox being the worst character to ever exist some kind of humiliation ritual to punish him for leaving Haripro?
>>23926129More like a consequence of Takahashi being deprived of his only good match (Ohmori-P), and having to settle with worst matches for producers.
>>23926129>worst character to ever existAnon we literally had a discussion about Kyosuke Kiriya last thread and there are other worse than Nox besides him, watch more Rider.Nox is a bottom 4 secondary Rider though.>>23926135The producer excuse doesn't work as well with Zeztz since thus time the issues do seem to be equally Takahashi's fault as Yanaka's fault. Unlike Zero-One and Geats where you could pinpoint most problems onto Omori and Takebe. But yeah I feel Takahashi doesn't really work well with any of the current producers and shouldn't return to Rider for a while, I'd like him to do Project R.E.D show if a producer that fits him shows up in the future but currently it isn't worth it.
>>23926136with how messy the productions of modern toku have been do any of the reiwa writers really fit these hacky producers' style?
>>23926145The one and only, Toshiki Inoue.
>>23926145Hypothetically without sharing the writer position>Yuya TakahashiHe doesn't really fit any of the current ones, he wouldn't make a below average show but the most he can reach is a 7>Takuro FukudaHe'd work well with Yanaka, due to the nature of his 2 rider shows we don't know if he'd fit the other 3>Keiichi HasegawaHe should theoretically work great with Matsuura and Yanaka and be a bad fit for Kuji, Takebe is a coinflip, but I don't think he'd made a below average show with either of them>Hanta KinoshitaThe most I could see is him and Yanaka making an episodic short horror adult Rider web show but that's a very specific situation, he just doesn't work well for toku>Hiroki UchidaDue to the nature of Gotchard and the other things he headed it could go either way>Akiko InoueShe has higher chances of making a great Rider with Matsuura and Takebe as long as there aren't many riders, but under other contexts she'd be a bad fit and bring results slightly worse than Takahashi>Junko KomuraAs long as the rider count is low she has high chances of making a really great show with everyone except Kuji, but if the rider count is high or she gets asked to do a Sentai she at most would do a Zyuohger-tier show and at worst a LuPat-tier disaster>Naruhisa ArakawaHe would work work really well with everyone except maybe Takebe due to her coinflip nature but even then it should be hard to fuck up with her although it impossible>Toshiki InoueHe'd work well with Matsuura, with the other 3 he'd only be able to make Kiva-tier shows>Minato TakanoWork well with Matsuura and Yanaka, again it should be hard to fuck up with Takebe but not impossible due to her style, wouldn't work well with Kuji(1/2)
>>23926145>>23926153>Atsuhiro TomiokaAs seen with Kuji he's only able to make "fine" shows with the rest it should be 50/50 due to his nature of leaving, I'm unsure if he'd work well with Matsuura and Takebe due to the mistakes he made with the backstories of Boonboomger but he maybe learnt his lesson on that judging by Gavan Infinity? With Yanaka he'd work better than Takahashi but still not exceptionally wellSo yeah aside from Arakawa and kinda Takano and Hasegawa things are pretty direWe really need a new consistent writer that can be recurring(2/2)
>>23926136>Takahashi doesn't really work well with any of the current producers and shouldn't return to Rider for a whileYou're right, because he's gonna be back in 2-3 years
>newest takahashi pack chinese ver.LMAO he's definitely back for more
Over-under on if they actually made suits for Zero and Two, or this is just how the Agent Capsem is made. https://x.com/toeiHERO_movie/status/2071866327011144108
>>23926198Very possible also that everyone just gets grayscale Lord suits so they really only need to redo 2-3 suits with maybe a few helmet variations. That being the male and female Lord suits
>>23926198SEX WITH ZA LADY
>>23926198Aww man, I was hoping THE Lady would become Kamen Rider Phantom–if only to complete the Cross of Fire.
>>23926198>Transformed MilfHoly coom.
>>23926198>Three boobs
>>23925874Oh right, Zeztz had other forms.
>>23926198... is there like, any gravure from her actress?
>>23926245Dunno if she ever does gravure (she might be considered too old now) but IIRC she's actually an actress that's been in TV/films for a long time.
>>23926226It's an issue with all modern Riders as far back as Gaim and maybe even before. They give them all these forms to sell the collectable gubbins and they're quickly forgotten about as the new toys come out. Zeztz is kind of egregious about it though because he really doesn't have that many, but there are still some he's used all of once.
>>23926245She doesn't do Gravure
https://x.com/BladeandBastard/status/2071911638664724906So, Arakawa anime next year. So, I guess even if the Myth rumor is true he probably wouldn't be writing many episodes...
>>23926330Script could have been completed before he started MY-TH
>>23926330I'll never understand people who use this as an excuse when Inoue and Kobayashi were working in 2 anime at times while working for toku and Arakawa has done 2 Anime simultaneously. Hell people were saying Takahashi wouldn't make Zeztz due to Virgin Punk and the Lupin movies and see where that went.Again with Kida's case in Wizard it was because he's a stageplay writer and was out of the city multiple times.
>>23926335So scheduling issues due to anime just aren't a thing since they finish it advance?
>Fuuto PI will never get a second season or an official manga release outside of Japan>Tojima will never get a second seasonThe money is right there you faggots
>>23926342>they finish it advance?Not necessarily, it depends greatly on the production. But the only case where the writer didn't make a script on time due to working on something else that we know of is Wizard. There's Boonboomger where there's a high chance he was working on something else but the staff never commented on it, some people thought it might have been due to the 2 seasonal anime of his that aired during Boonboomger but the staff one of those anime revealed he had finished the script a year back and I wouldn't be surprised if the other one was the same since it was by a better studio, so if he left it was most likely to work on vidya, specifically picrel.
>>23926348>>Fuuto PI will never get a second season or an official manga release outside of Japan>>Tojima will never get a second seasonWhy? Fuuto PI is the only fixed staff at Studio Kai and they just announced 2 new seasons of other works by contracted staff. Right now their fixed staff isn't doing anything that we know of. LIDENFILMS usually takes 2 years to make a new season of something.
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>>23926330This anime was originally announced in 2024: https://youtu.be/3iF6jXCP-Hk?si=yG1PSWl3IX8uKsFy Arakawa most likely finished the script for this years ago so I don't think it'll affect his availability for My-Th at allUnlike Gavv where color corrected himself almost immediately when he got the writer wrong and on a later date stated it'll be Komura, with Arakawa he haven't corrected himself after saying he believes the rumor is true and added that My-Th will have a prolific director to that
>>23926364I wish color leaked Omegahorn's staff, the show starts in 3 weaks yet we know nothing meaning it's probably just Infinity's staff again sadly.
>>23926198>or this is just how the Agent Capsem is made.This. They're all using the CODE Capsem, so rip Lord Zero chances. >>23926348>Tojima will never get a second seasonA little quick to assume, the anime just recently ended and it got pretty far where the manga is now. They might be waiting for more chapters to catch up.
>>23926329...yet.
>>23926376>They're going to turn me into a smoothie again, aren't they? Oh god please no oh fuck
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5315568120627976
>>23926387>I'm gonna become paper again huh.
>>23926387This guy always looked like an asian Don Cheadle
>>23926348>never got official manga release outside of JapanSpeak for yourself, we got official release here on Indonesia
>>23926377>>23926245porn addiction
>>23926441*horn addiction
>>23926415You're gonna trigger the SEAseethers
>>23926415>>23926452stop responding to yourself
>>23926441i thought the mods finally banned you
>>23926457Stop seething
>>23926387>Heh. One last mogging, for old times' sake.
>>23926458Why would they do that?
>>23926372I really doubt they would change any staffs. Infinity, Omegahorn and the 3rd Project RED are prepared at the same time, hence the mix-up with "Sentai 2026" rumors from last year.
>>23925913Sentai is popular but it doesn't sell. It's toysales and theatrical sales. This isn't a hard concept to grasp. There are plenty of popular things that don't sell and plenty of niche things that sell shitloads.It reached the dreaded point of popularity where something is so popular most people KNOW of it and enjoy parodies of it but don't necessarily keep up with the thing itself.>There's barely talk about Showa seriesMost oldfags aren't sticking around with the shit quality of threads, posts, and shows. Whenever there is Showa talk, anons tend to agree. Besides, why would there be Showa talk when it's not airing? This isn't MMPR where the fans circlejerk a show for 40 years.>I think you'd see a lot of bashing for similar reasons you see with ZeztzThey don't have the same issues. Showa issues are not Reiwa issues.>supporting cast being unable to accomplish thingsThis I agree with you on. I despise the nu-retards in /krg/ that come from shonen slop threads on /a/ and want every character on screen to transform or have a powerlevel and engage in epic fights every week just like their slop shonen where everyone exists only to fight every chapter. Not by coincidence, also the reason Geats is so popular with newfags.
>>23926654>Sentai is popular but it doesn't sell. That chart specifically kills that myth. That's not a sales chart, it's research into popularity of various franchises in Japan. Sentai's transparent bubble that represents its popularity is very small there.
So when are we gonna get another mc rider who has a female love interest
>>23926708It doesn't disprove anything. I specifically outlined that it is popular, but not "popular because it is consumed and chosen". Yes, that matters.When showing graphs it's important to read what they actually represent, what the numbers show, what the survey was, the criteria for the choices, whether it was multiple choice or not, etc.The GEM graph is SPECIFICALLY oshi ("favorite"). Super Sentai is not "favorite"-popular, it is "is there"-popular, as a concept. Again, as I said, it's not popular because it is >actively consumed and enjoyed as the primary entertainment<, it's popular because >it's there and everyone knows it<. Yes, this distinction matters greatly, because this did not translate to sales. It also did not translate to viewership.This was outlined by Toei themselves multiple times in their reports (key terms such as "failed to convert popularity into revenue, etc"). They even joked about it recently with Kingohger v. Donbrothers.Rider is barely larger than it on the graph, and yet it grosses several times more. That's because it can sell despite not being "my favorite thing". Sentai has not had that privilege.There are plenty of vastly popular franchises and hobbies that are listed at the same size of Sentai or smaller and it would be silly to pretend that they aren't popular. Not to mention tokusatsu is a niche within a niche, and this was a general survey about quite literally everything but food. Even though food channels are there anyway.
>>23926654>want every character on screen to transform or have a powerlevel and engage in epic fights every week just like their slop shonen where everyone exists only to fight every chapterNobody's asking for Fujimi and Nasuka to become Riders, we just expect them to do the bare minimum as supporting characters, but they don't even do that. They're pretty much useless as detectives, their attempts at moral support rarely work in significant ways and sometimes they're the opposite of moral support like when Nasuka denies Black Cases are real or when Fujimi screams at Baku for daring to imply that his precious Odaka might be an asshole, Nasuka had obvious set up for a storyline with Kureha but they didn't even bother to develop it, and it feels like Nox forgets everything Fujimi says to him by the next episode.
>>23926747And seeing the other transforming characters besides Baku just sit there and do nothing for several episodes is really bad.
>403 errorMy-th announcement is near, could be this sunday I guess?https://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/my-th/
>>23926774It should next week's Sunday rather than this one if I'm not mistaken. Since this is Takebe I'd imagine that unlike Omegahorn we'll get a whole staff reveal for everything except the music composer and head writer so we won't know yet whether the Arakawa rumor is true or not but we'll at least find out who's the prolific director color mentioned
>>23926730>Rider is barely larger than it on the graph, and yet it grosses several times more.It's three or four times bigger though. Keep in mind the solid orange circle is the same for every single one. What matters is just the transparent part.
>>23925938You should go to reddit because you talk like a redditor.
>>23926774I believe it should be mid-July as per a few threads ago. Probably just the image at first though. Staff reveal and con at the end of July.
still wish she hasn't died, chesis bros
>>23926910tranny porn folder status?
>>23926915>tranny porn???
>>23926915There's a Jeebh porn folder?
What's up, Rider bros. I've mainly stayed with in the realm of Ultraman content, dabbled in Sentai and Rider, but you guys seem to know what you're talking about with Toei toku. How's the Kikaider series?
>>23926195Are there any reviews for these?
I'm nervous getting closer to watching Revice in my Rider watch through. Is it really as bad as people say? I've seen ever season up to Saber including the Showa ones, I'm also caught up with Zeztz.
>>23926988It's in Chinese tho>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSM1gtSvKZg
>>23926067Well the Agents in Gavv were as strong as some MOTW.
>>23927016It's ok until it gets bad, then it gets really bad.HOWEVER you can have fun mocking it. More than you can say for seasons like Wizard which are so boring they might put you in a coma.
>>23926785>>23926899Gavv reveal date was July 1 and Zeztz reveal is on sunday, july 6 next year. Inital poster and short teaser should be done this week, if we're going by last 2 years pattern.
>>23926979Kikaider is pretty great, 01 is worse but still good, the anime adaptation is really great and so is the anime crossover with Inazuman but the 01 OVA is pretty bad. The Re:Boot movie and the Violator Hakaider movie is also pretty good. Gaim has a crossover episode with Re:Boot too which was pretty fun.
>>23927016>Is it really as bad as people say? It's relative. The first 18 episodes of Revice are great but after that the show does several retcons and becomes considerably worse, imo out of the remaining 32 episodes 2 are great, 1 is OK and the other 29 are bad. It's the worst Rider show for me but depending on your point of view a show whose first half is so great might not be that bad, I mean I like Hibiki despite having a similar situation and Kyosuke being more hateable than anyone from Revice.
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>>23927208>>23927209This suit fucks, alas the show is shite
>>23926917He's weird.
>>23927250>Come play with us, aka gavv
Yuya Takahashi = Toshiki Inoue 2.0>I read Uchuusen, and it seems like Kamihoriuchi was in charge of finale.>This schedule would be impossible without Takahashi's incredible writing speed.
>>23927250I want to get them both pregnant.
>>23925953I like the WRBs.I wish they had made more Emblems and Wonder Combos for the Swordriver.
I just remembered something that I read here, and I don't know how true it is. Were the capsems originally meant to be tamagotchi type electronics with pixelated screens before they dumbed it down to what they are now?
>>23927255Did Omori ever comment if Takano was good with schedules? It really seems as if Takahashi, Inoue and Takegami are the best at being in timeGlad that Kami is doing the finale, it seems the finale scheduling conflict with the summer movie was an one-time thing with Gavv?
>>23927266Yeah they were originally suppose to have actual LED screens, but they cheaped out and used spinning animation instead in the end.
>>23927271who tf is tategami?
>>23927271Given how tightly planned Takano's work was, I would say it's likely. But that might have been the special production circumstances.
>>23927255What schedule? It's the same as heisei though..
