Welcome to Chatbot AI General #85, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (extra MLP bots, CAI bots, Jailbreaks):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT!!! GALLERY !!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be opaque and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/STAI-TermuxRetards guide: https://rentry.org/Tavern4RetardsApp that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chatRetards guide: https://rentry.org/agnai_guides▶ LocalsGetting started: https://rentry.org/lmg-spoonfeed-guide>>>/g/lmg/Museum of local pony projects: https://rentry.org/b8wemkqkLocals on Google Colab: https://rentry.org/ky239▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ Character.AIhttps://old.character.ai▶ PAID OPTIONS (Ask the thread before considering these)▶ Openrouter (Free options are often available, like Llama 3 8B)https://openrouter.ai/▶ Setting up your own AWS instance (Claude, LLama, Mistral, etc.)https://rentry.org/how2aws4khanon▶ NovelAI (If already used for Imagegen)https://novelai.netFor NAI Scenarios, Settings, and Presets, see the Spreadsheet, NAI Tab.Advanced Settings, Format, and Cards Description: https://rentry.org/82b9c▶ BotmakingEditors: https://desune.moe/aichared, https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricksPrevious thread: >>41319030Chag Mini VN project: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1F1psRi-peKZ5box9KiOLTUkSq7_NFPUJ?usp=sharing, releases here: https://pastebin.com/AeGwrvd4 News:-New chatgpt-4o released. Available on non-azure proxies >>41323635-Nemo Pony, Mistral Nemo base model finetuned on fimfics released: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/NemoPony-GPT-4o-2024-08-06 releases, price cut in half https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/41287809/#41299226-Mistral Nemo and Mistral Large 2 released https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-nemo, https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-large-2407
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>41319033
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Updates, Models etc.)
Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
Bots Corner: CHRYSALIS (Covert Hybrid Reconnaissance Yielding Strategic Assault Lifeform Infiltration System) >>41321549 https://www.characterhub.org/characters/littlewitcher/chrysalis-27844aec8680/mainAria (Pony form) Fork >>41324792 https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=n0denz/Aria+Blaze_Forks/Aria+Blaze+and+Sisters.pngScreenshots corner:Squish mitten >>41319235Gifted >>41319280Woreity >>41320743Anon the Adonis >>41320764Twilight a cute >>41321860Cupid Sparkle >>41323607405 Hermes >>41323799Berry special sauce >>41323816Brae Burnett >>41326053Taming room ASCII >>41327422OC arts: >>41320258>>41320706>>41326114
Anchor for our fifth event focused on Fillies/Colts.Post bots, post logs, post lorebooks...Everything goes as long as it's on theme.End of event: 08-26
>>41327108Added to the website as a fork. Thanks anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=n0denz/Aria+Blaze_Forks/Aria+Blaze+and+Sisters.png
>>41329131>oc arts>>41329135
>>41329145Oops. Thanks anon.
>>41329144Who dis
>>41329159Ponified Aria Blaze from EQG.
>>41329112>▶ NovelAI (If already used for Imagegen)This is a lie, by the way. There's no reason to use NAI. This general also lies about what Kayra can really do.For that reason, MM or whoever else should stop supporting this thread!
>>41329162Oh cool. Never seen it. May give it a shot, I like meeting new ponies.
Oh boy! new bread I can't wait for hundreds of posts crying about not being able to use Opus.
>>41329226I like that style. (Not bait, appreciation.)
>>41329112>New chatgpt-4o released. Available on non-azure proxies >>41323635I've heard all sorts of things about it, some anons say it's just another iteration, while others claim it writes better.
>>41329245I've had a rough time with 4o. It seemed less... How to put it, less willing to play along? Seemed to guide the stories intentionally away from dark moments. Characters becoming inexplicably happy and stuff. But I'll be the first to admit- probably a skill issue.
>>41329245from my own testing it's basically the same model but with added safeguards that make it worse for pretty much everything we do.prose is essentially identical, it's not noticeably smarter or more creative, just a flat out downgrade. not worth using when other GPT models exist.
>>41329245that model is hit-or-miss for me. I would gladly prefer it over other 4o models, it feels more eager to write. but it feels more stale than Turbo or vanilla GPT. it writes so much about inner feelings, dynamics, turmoil, yada-yada, but I don't see little cute things from it. you know those small details that let me go -unf-. yet I see anons love it a lot and I do recommend at least give it a try. maybe your experience will be better and I am just unnecessary dismissive>>41329265>Characters becoming inexplicably happy and stuffno, this is an inner problem with all GPT. every single paragraph gives +1 to happy thoughts, and they accumulate aggressively. 1-2-3 paragraphs are fine, 4-5 are getting "hopeful", 6-7 even more, 8-9 is sappy shitstorm, etc.and honestly? wrangling it is so annoying, that I would personally just cut it off manually and tell GPT to generate 5-6 paragraphs at max
Anybody else getting>Streaming request failed with status 429 Too Many RequestsOn MM?Maybe I've overdone it, it's been a long day.
>>41329292The page itself is blank for me as well when I try to check it.
>>41329292The cloudflare page seem to be struggling. I would wait a bit.
>>41329292yeah
>>41329299I'm just glad it's not me lmao, I feel like I'm responsible for a significant part of the tokens because the gf's gone for the weekend.
>>41329303Bring your gf into AI mare lovemaking hobbyInstall st to her phone when she shows interest in cai Give your mm token to herShow her bots from her fandoms Do itI dare you
>>41329315NTA, but if someone I know shows the slightest interest in chatbots I'd do everything in my power to kill that interest. The only posible outcome from that is that they'll become a literal crackhead, either because bot usage or because they'll want to see all the drama around AI in general.
>>41329181You should watch it.
https://preferred-values-hundred-span.trycloudflare.com
I hate how most legacy pony cards are polluted by HiE assumptions, though in general that's a flaw of all legacy cards, putting things in the definition that should have been left out of it. At the same time, I'm fucking lazy and unwilling to make new cards even when my old ones definitely need updating. Maybe I'll get off my ass for the current event though, I haven't made a filly in a while.
>>41329417Thanks a lot.
>>41329417thank you
>>41329417I was genning a token just yesterday after work, and mid-verification it got posted into you-know-where. And after that, I never got the token.T_T
>>41329417Thank you
>>41329420There's a lot of crap in my old cards that I hate too, like forced POV for {{user}}, the Scenario field that enforced a single, forced greeting back when we didn't have V2, and all the stuff we did like CAI because we didn't know any better, etc.
>>41329433Email me the approximate time you started.
>>41329351I mean, people who use less SOTA services like CAI or similar websites don't seem that far gone (yet). You only go fully insane once Claude ruins you for everyone else.
>>41329417I dont get it so is this MM ? If so how come its not on the rentry ? Why r there two private ones ? I'm just confused.
>>41329420yeah, it is indeed a byproduct of early era when anons were experimenting with what should be included into preset and what should go into card. and not only that - we have plenty of card stressing that ""X is pony, she has hooves not hands, and her asshole is named ponut"" - while all that data should really be going into preset. the same with W++ formatting, or using personality / scenario fields because CAI, or speaking for users in greetings. as anon above said, "we didn't know any better", early-installment weirdness
>>41329452There are people who got addicted to Replika, of all things. I use LLMs more for fun, stories, etc., but I'm not sure I would recommend them to people who use them because of loneliness.>>41329457 NTA, and I don't want to speak for him, but it uses API keys. I'm not sure you can put them in a very large proxy. I think that's why there was a separation.
>>41329447Am I shit out of luck if I missed it completely yesterday? I'd just like to know if I should stop refreshing my email.
>>41329469NTA: Don't tell me. I'd rather keep refreshing than be disappointed. At least that way I have hope™
Hey, MM, what do you think about oc bugwife anon draws?
>>41329447Sent. Save me, pleaaaaseee...
MM whats ur favorite pony a horseshoe brings u luck so imagine what an entire pony would bring u wink
>>41329469Also NTA, but I was on an extended trip and didn't end up even sending the mail. I'll just wait for Opus 3.5.
>>41329649Any ETA on that, by the by? One of the few AI related advancements I'm actually kind of excited for.
>>41329656Nothing new, as far as I know. Still "later this year".
>>41329656don't expect it soon, they're working on bringing prompt caching to opus 3 which wouldn't make sense if they were gearing up for 3.5. we're probably talking november/december release.
>'anypony' in narrationGod, it gets me so fucking good.
>>41329417okay guys, i am retarded but i am still proud of myself - i am the anon from yesterday that closed the gen page instantly without saving the token.i tried to wrangle the browser to show me the closed page to no avail, but something struck me, so i checked the cookies on the main page - and it was there!much thanks for the opportunity and not purging the token despite it being unused. love ya!
>>41329895good for ya happy lovemaking with ai mares!
